Simmons Recognition Thread

[808]

His defense on Harden was fantastic. 3 steals, numerous offensive fouls drawn, strong drives and smart passes, Spurs lose without him tonight. Nothing stood out that I hated about his decision making. Needs 30+ mins for the rest of the series.

[TheGreatYacht]

Pay that man

Spurs crowd needs a hype man like him to get them going.

Best perimeter defender on the team

[SAGirl]

He's earned a contract in this series.
Not just the Spurs, everyone has seen this.
It's great for the Spurs he finally put everything together.

[jermaine]

He just earned his next check!!!

[SpurOutofTownFan]

This guy is good - I heard someone say he's 27 when I said I wondered what he would look like when he's polished... he isn't polished yet. Maybe next year he can be very very good - he's talented no question about it and has fire in him

[mclinejr]

Agreed.

[Dex]

I've been critical on Simmons on the past.

But after tonight.....I believe in The Juice!

[gambit1990]

i called simmons showing up for this series.

[808]

He's earned a contract in this series.
Not just the Spurs, everyone has seen this.
It's great for the Spurs he finally put everything together.

It is really great to see, and I'm happy for him. He always had the energy and athleticism, just needed to use it under control. Hope he keeps it up :toast

[Robz4000]

Gonna miss him next season tbh.

[cjw]

Really happy for him. Good thing the Spurs a chance to match any other offer he might get. Hopefully they can keep his lower cap hold on the books as an RFA and work out a fair long term deal (not breaking the bank as he's still a situational guy).

[gambit1990]

people who think i don't know basketball because i thought we could win without parker:

simmons shows up more in this series, i think he plays good in houston.
:lmao

[Cry Havoc]

Next season if Parker is hurt:

Mills/Murray
Green/Simmons
Simmons/Bertans
Kawhi/Gasol
LMA/Dedmon

Considering the defense he showed, put him in the SL and run him alongside Kawhi against smaller teams. Against bigger squads you can always run Simmons starting at the 2 and have Green come off the bench.

[-21-]

:bobo

[look_at_g_shred]

Imagine if he could finish at the rim or hit an open 3

[TheGreatYacht]

people who think i don't know basketball because i thought we could win without parker:

:lmao
Simmons has been brilliant throughout the playoffs and you predicted he would show up against his hometown team a week ago. Way to go on a limb retard.

What's next? Rockets will shoot a lot of threes?

[gambit1990]

Simmons has been brilliant throughout the playoffs and you predicted he would show up against his hometown team a week ago.
:lmao :lmao :lmao

he was brilliant against the grizzles? go suck parker's dick. at least there's one thing you're good at.

[SAGirl]

I think they will reup him.
I don't see why they shouldn't.
Mills earned dat contract too tbh.

[rastaspur]

Simmons has been brilliant throughout the playoffs and you predicted he would show up against his hometown team a week ago. Way to go on a limb retard.

What's next? Rockets will shoot a lot of threes?

:lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

played outstanding tonight

[sasaint]

Next season if Parker is hurt:

Mills/Murray
Green/Simmons
Simmons/Bertans
Kawhi/Gasol
LMA/Dedmon

Considering the defense he showed, put him in the SL and run him alongside Kawhi against smaller teams. Against bigger squads you can always run Simmons starting at the 2 and have Green come off the bench.

Deadman will be gone.

[HarlemHeat37]

He's a nice 4th wing, tbh..way too inefficient and erratic to be starting, hasn't shown any level of consistency during his time with the Spurs(there's a reason he wasn't a lock in the rotation, heading into the playoffs)..

[urunobili]

#paysimmons

[TheGreatYacht]

he was brilliant against the grizzles?
Outscored your hometown hero in half the minutes that series. It was obvious his minutes were going up.

Go back to comic-con with the other weeaboos you fucking loser :lol

[sasaint]

I think they will reup him.
I don't see why they shouldn't.
Mills earned dat contract too tbh.

Pop is giving Simmons more burn than I expected, so maybe he will come back.

[TheGreatYacht]

He's a nice 4th wing, tbh..way too inefficient and erratic to be starting, hasn't shown any level of consistency during his time with the Spurs(there's a reason he wasn't a lock in the rotation, heading into the playoffs)..
Damn. Replace wing with big and you just described Dedmon<3 tbh

[SAGirl]

Deadman will be gone.
I think that too, he's just not even getting token minutes at this point.
I mean I don't even want to bring it up but even Kyle got some minutes... Lee...
Deadman nothing.
The others didn't get minutes either but they are rookies who have shown enough and in cheap contracts.
Deadman may opt in to his contract so maybe he will be back.

I can't predict Pau tbh. I do get the sense he's overpaid at this rate, (playing time plus role, plus becoming a situational player at 16 mill next season? That is too much)...
Mills and Simmons are getting paid though...

[Cry Havoc]

He's a nice 4th wing, tbh..way too inefficient and erratic to be starting, hasn't shown any level of consistency during his time with the Spurs(there's a reason he wasn't a lock in the rotation, heading into the playoffs)..

If he gives that kind of effort, I want him on the court.

[SAGirl]

Pop is giving Simmons more burn than I expected, so maybe he will come back.
He's going to get paid by somebody... unless Spurs move a contract, they don't have cap to go after a FA... I wanted them to but it's dawned on me that unless Spurs move some players (pau, the Tony contract. .. etc.. signing Simmons is probably the best they can do. How can they afford him and mills? I dont' know.

[dabom]

I said simmons was a good player vs the rockets and warriors.

[gambit1990]

Outscored your hometown hero in half the minutes that series. It was obvious his minutes were going up.
deflect more :lmao

my hometown hero is manu? did you see that game 5 winning block tonight? parker doesn't do that :lol

[eDizzle20]

Simmons came up big. That charge he took against Harden late in the fourth was excellent.

[steeledl]

My nigga. Dude played amazing and disciplined defense.

[Marcus Bryant]

Simmons needs to be cloned. Too bad he isn't 7' tall, we need bigs who play like him.

[sasaint]

I think that too, he's just not even getting token minutes at this point.
I mean I don't even want to bring it up but even Kyle got some minutes... Lee...
Deadman nothing.
The others didn't get minutes either but they are rookies who have shown enough and in cheap contracts.
Deadman may opt in to his contract.

I can't predict Pau tbh. I do get the sense he's overpaid at this rate, (playing time plus role, plus becoming a situational player at 16 mill next season? That is too much)...
Mills and Simmons are getting paid though...

I can't see Deadman opting in to just sit in Pop's doghouse. He will sign with anybody who promises to give him a fair shot at some regular, meaningful minutes. The best scenario I can see for Pau is for him to opt out with an agreement to come back for a couple of seasons at a reduced annual salary. But I don't know anything about these guys' personalities or egos. Maybe he thinks he can opt out and get a better deal elsewhere.

As for opting IN, I've been saying that LMA is going to blow some minds by opting IN next off-season, consuming some cap space that many on ST expect to be cleared. He isn't worth his current contract, and he knows it.

[gambit1990]

Simmons has been brilliant throughout the playoffs and you predicted he would show up against his hometown team a week ago.
1) simmons wasn't "brilliant" against the grizzlies you stupid fuck :lol
2) where was your, or anyone else's prediction that he would step up against the rockets? here's mine from a week ago:

simmons shows up more in this series, i think he plays good in houston.

[illusioNtEk]

Some other team going to be flashing huge amounts of money for this guy... we better open up our wallet

[SAGirl]

My nigga. Dude played amazing and disciplined defense.
happy for ya.
:toast

[marinoman]

He better play 25+ minutes Thursday, especially instead of 2 bigs but knowing pop he'll play sparringly

[sasaint]

He's going to get paid by somebody... unless Spurs move a contract, they don't have cap to go after a FA... I wanted them to but it's dawned on me that unless Spurs move some players (pau, the Tony contract. .. etc.. signing Simmons is probably the best they can do. How can they afford him and mills? I dont' know.

I don't think Patty is playing himself into any big payday - especially of Lowery goes to Philly (which seems like a perfect fit).

[TheGreatYacht]

where was your, or anyone else's prediction that he would step up against the rockets? here's mine from a week ago:
Raising goal posts :lol "against the rockets"

I've been demanding he gets into the playoff rotation since it started. Dumb fuck.


Simmons in the playoffs so far:
15.5MPG, 8ppg, 2rpg, 2.5apg, 75FG%, 66.7 3P%, 24.4PER, .289 WS/48, 7.1BPM

2k5 is correct tbh... Simmons played great and his usual haters (Kyle fans) nitpick the one turnover he had.

No one talks about Kyle's turnovers, like when he passes up shots and then travels. I mean, he's averaging more turnovers than assists in the playoffs....
A week before your predictable, vanilla post

[SAGirl]

I can't see Deadman opting in to just sit in Pop's doghouse. He will sign with anybody who promises to give him a fair shot at some regular, meaningful minutes. The best scenario I can see for Pau is for him to opt out with an agreement to come back for a couple of seasons at a reduced annual salary. But I don't know anything about these guys' personalities or egos. Maybe he thinks he can opt out and get a better deal elsewhere.

As for opting IN, I've been saying that LMA is going to blow some minds by opting IN next off-season, consuming some cap space that many on ST expect to be cleared. He isn't worth his current contract, and he knows it.
I think you are right in this prediction. If I am Deadman agent maybe I do avise him to go look elsewhere.

[SAGirl]

I don't think Patty is playing himself into any big payday - especially of Lowery goes to Philly (which seems like a perfect fit).
hmmm You might be right. I don't know.

[SAGirl]

He better play 25+ minutes Thursday, especially instead of 2 bigs but knowing pop he'll play sparringly
He played 32 tonight. I think he's earned coach's trust.

[gambit1990]

Raising goal posts :lol "against the rockets"
you said he's been brilliant throughout the playoffs.

post his numbers vs the grizzles against his numbers vs the rockets.

i'm not moving the goal post you stupid fuck, this is what i said i week ago:

simmons shows up more in this series, i think he plays good in houston.
:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

you said he's been brilliant throughout the playoffs.

post his numbers vs the grizzles against his numbers vs the rockets.

i'm not moving the goal post you stupid fuck, this is what i said i week ago:

:lmao
Predicting Simmons shows up more when Manure looked like a carcass and it's against his hometown team

You haven't made a decision that tough since you decided to take down that selfie of yourself with bangs and a mullet

[Southwest Texas Fan]

He played well tonight most of all played under control.

[gambit1990]

Predicting Simmons shows up more when Manure looked like a carcass and it's against his hometown team

You haven't made a decision that tough since you decided to take down that selfie of yourself with bangs and a mullet

deflect more :lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

Simmons is going to receive at least 1 phantom foul in the 1st quarter of game 6:lol

[bklynspursfan]

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[808]

My nigga. Dude played amazing and disciplined defense.

Disciplined is the key. Someone with his energy, plus the fast pace and helter skelter atmosphere at times, it'd be easy to turn into a slopfest.

[808]

862152585968586752

By the eye test, he was fantastic. But those stats, 5 TO's :wow

[spursistan]

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[TheGreatYacht]

862152585968586752

862157851149709312
Show him the $$$$$$$$

[RodNIc91]

His defense on Harden to end the game was fantastic, no doubt . However, he has ZERO confidence in his shot, which makes him easy to game plan against going forward. Expect Houston to disrespect his shot in game 6.

[look_at_g_shred]

His defense on Harden to end the game was fantastic, no doubt . However, he has ZERO confidence in his shot, which makes him easy to game plan against going forward. Expect Houston to disrespect his shot in game 6.
Hopefully he pulls a Andre Roberson game 6 from last year!

[TheGreatYacht]

Simmons worked on his midrange shot over the summer and it's his go-to shot when not attacking the rim. I trust Chip to work his 3 next....

Pretty much his only weakness

[Ditty]

Two big free throws down the stretch also. Keep proving me wrong, we will continue to needing you more & more.

[bic50]

I said simmons was a good player vs the rockets and warriors.
You could be on to something there.

[dabom]

You could be on to something there.

He has good one-on-one skills and can switch like how the Spurs play on defense. Not that hard. :hat

[vander]

I like how when Harden guards him, he just goes to the hoop and instigates contact.

[FkLA]

862162872385884161

he made it tbh :cry

[YGWHI]

I guess these numbers look even better for Simms after game 5.

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[Seventyniner]

Does he chew that gum all game too? He could barely string three words together during that post game interview.

Fantastic game by Simmons all the same. Simmons/Ginobili/Green/Leonard/Aldridge is a great lineup to switch everything.

[100%duncan]

862162872385884161

he made it tbh :cry

:cry

[poeticism707]

Simmons is going to receive at least 1 phantom foul in the 1st quarter of game 6:lol

:

:rollin :rollin :rollin


Simmons will foul out by halftime!!!

[DJR210]

Gonna miss him next season tbh.

Smh watch him go home to Houston..

[jermaine]

Smh watch him go home to Houston..

Spurs would be dumb as fuck not to lock him up!! Ginobili is on his way out, the Spurs will need someone. If dude gets at least 40% from 3, he'd really look like a starter.

[james evans]

i think we should start simmons and bring Green off the bench. I been saying that shit all season.

[james evans]

I think you are right in this prediction. If I am Deadman agent maybe I do avise him to go look elsewhere.
back to GS or cleveland

[Horse]

If nothing else let him guard Hardon some to give Kawhi a break. Also if our pussy bigs can't post up little guys Simmons can atleast get to the rim.

[cjw]

Simmons is a restricted FA and because the Spurs are capped out, might not be able to do anything besides match another team's offer sheet. Also, there won't be as much money floating around this offseason for UFAs let alone RFAs. Doesn't mean someone won't offer him a crazy number, but less likely given his age compared to most RFAs. If he goes as high as the MLE, do you lock him up at those dollars?

[r0drig0lac]

862152585968586752

lockdown

[Pocho La Pantera]

He was inmense last night

[Chinook]

862152585968586752

As I said in the game thread, I do hate stats like that, especially if there's no explicit standard for who gets assigned credit/blame for the result. That said, gotta give credit to Simmons for stepping up when the team needs him. I don't know how long him and the team can keep this up, but they'd be dead in the water if he weren't contributing.

[jag]

Best perimeter defender on the team

why u do dis?

[r0drig0lac]

why u do dis?

Even if he does not believe it, he has to keep saying it, it's a tradition spurstalk

[TheGreatYacht]

why u do dis?
I meant what I said and I said what I meant

[tbdog]

So how many years and dollars would you like the Spurs give him?

[Chinook]

So how many years and dollars would you like the Spurs give him?

Can't say yet. This isn't who he was most of the year. If the Spurs can get five or more games of good play, then he's a keeper. As of right now, I think an MLE 1-plus-1 makes the most sense for both sides. The hope is that his age prevents Marks from backing up a truck for him, because I don't expect matching an Arenas-max deal going any better for the Spurs as it did with the Blazers.

[Brazil]

Simmons has been brilliant throughout the playoffs and you predicted he would show up against his hometown team a week ago. Way to go on a limb retard.

What's next? Rockets will shoot a lot of threes?

:lol

[Fireball]

I think his effect on Harden is a little overblown ... it felt as if somehow Harden no energy and ideas left what to do with the ball ... his effort is undeniable though and I want to see more of it

hopefully Pop finally sees the light and plays small ball from the start in Game 6

[coachmac87]

Simmons has always been the Manu replacement in my eyes...

I wonder if Simmons appreciates his time with the Spurs..Simmons isn't in the league if the Spurs didn't give him a shot and maybe he really wants to stay? I'm not saying that'll allow the Spurs to low ball him but it could help depending on what's really out there $$ wise for hin

[Chinook]

Simmons has always been the Manu replacement in my eyes...

I wonder if Simmons appreciates his time with the Spurs..Simmons isn't in the league if the Spurs didn't give him a shot and maybe he really wants to stay? I'm not saying that'll allow the Spurs to low ball him but it could help depending on what's really out there $$ wise for hin

I doubt he pulls a Danny on this. Dude has four kids. Make your money first, then worry about discounts.

[Chinook]

I think his effect on Harden is a little overblown ... it felt as if somehow Harden no energy and ideas left what to do with the ball ... his effort is undeniable though and I want to see more of it

hopefully Pop finally sees the light and plays small ball from the start in Game 6

You're talking about on D, and I agree. But him destroying Harden on O was very much real. Like imagine, Murray, Simmons, Manu, Kawhi, and LMA. Who can James check on that list?

[coachmac87]

I doubt he pulls a Danny on this. Dude has four kids. Make your money first, then worry about discounts.

Damn he has 4 kids?!?! LMAO

Wow. So you think he could go for the MLE? Which is what these days? I dunno how anyone could pay him 10M+ per year unless he continues and plays against the Warriors like he did rest of season.

Another question do you think Pop could be limiting Simmons/Dedmon roles due drive down their value?

[coachmac87]

I doubt he pulls a Danny on this. Dude has four kids. Make your money first, then worry about discounts.

Damn he has 4 kids?!?! LMAO

Wow. So you think he could go for the MLE? Which is what these days? I dunno how anyone could pay him 10M+ per year unless he continues and plays against the Warriors like he did rest of season.

Another question do you think Pop could be limiting Simmons/Dedmon roles to drive down their value?

[Spurs9]

We better not let him go.

[Chinook]

Damn he has 4 kids?!?! LMAO

Wow. So you think he could go for the MLE? Which is what these days? I dunno how anyone could pay him 10M+ per year unless he continues and plays against the Warriors like he did rest of season.

Another question do you think Pop could be limiting Simmons/Dedmon roles to drive down their value?

I doubt Pop is playing the value game with them. And the MLE is $8.5M-ish next season.

[rjv]

https://m.popkey.co/75baf1/0D9Mv.gif

[SAGirl]

Can't say yet. This isn't who he was most of the year. If the Spurs can get five or more games of good play, then he's a keeper. As of right now, I think an MLE 1-plus-1 makes the most sense for both sides. The hope is that his age prevents Marks from backing up a truck for him, because I don't expect matching an Arenas-max deal going any better for the Spurs as it did with the Blazers.
Just no Chinook.
I do think you are keeping the interest of the team in this. He's shown some things but not consistency I get that but it's like for chandler parsons... I think he said if it wasn't a good deal for Mark Cuban to take a chance on him and his knee, it wasn't a good deal for him to not take the better offer and also take a chance on him and his knee.

Completely different situation in terms of health and hype (Chandler having been a starters for years in the NBA etc, Simmons a bench player that was around 10th in the rotation).
However some team can say he was held down in role by the existence of other wings in this Spurs roster and the Spurs desire to play almost 99% big the entire season, but him stepping up when the team needed him and when Manu started to look done in the postseason is a sign that he has more to give. I can definitely see offers this summer that are much better than 1 and 1. So he's either gone, and I wish him the best (as I did with CoJo back then who I liked a lot too... anyways I digress)... or he's getting paid by the Spurs. I do believe 1 and 1 isn't going to get it done.

[FkLA]

You're talking about on D, and I agree. But him destroying Harden on O was very much real. Like imagine, Murray, Simmons, Manu, Kawhi, and LMA. Who can James check on that list?

LaFaggot

[SAGirl]

I doubt he pulls a Danny on this. Dude has four kids. Make your money first, then worry about discounts.
This...
Definitely... plus besides the kid he has worked for a longer time Danny did in the lower leagues and is older by the time his initial cheap out of dleague/FA deal is over. That is absolutely the reason I think he needs to maximize his earnings.
Besides his game is entirely athleticism. He has this next contract to make his money, everything else is gravy.

[SAGirl]

LaFaggot
:toast

[Chinook]

LaFaggot

Not if the Spurs don't give LMA the ball 15 feet away from the basket. I swear, what's he's supposed to do besides shoot a jumper in that case? He shouldn't be trying to dribble on them

[absoloot66]

You're talking about on D, and I agree. But him destroying Harden on O was very much real. Like imagine, Murray, Simmons, Manu, Kawhi, and LMA. Who can James check on that list?

LMA, tbh:wakeup

Shame, really...

[PopTheGOAT]

Not if the Spurs don't give LMA the ball 15 feet away from the basket. I swear, what's he's supposed to do besides shoot a jumper in that case? He shouldn't be trying to dribble on them
I mean he could pass it out...
They double just about every time when he turns his back to the basket in the post. He could find the open man, but idk...

Really though, I understand not taking it at Capela every time, but when Capela is out, there's no reason he shouldn't be able to back every player on that team under the basket and lay it in/dunk it. To your point, they do need to set up more low post opportunities for him. That may be something that he has to take upon himself though.

[Chinook]

I mean he could pass it out...
They double just about every time when he turns his back to the basket in the post. He could find the open man, but idk...

He does that a lot, and you get people like Reggie bitching about it. LMA is not a play-maker, but the dude had only two TOs in 42 minutes.


Really though, I understand not taking it at Capela every time, but when Capela is out, there's no reason he shouldn't be able to back every player on that team under the basket and lay it in/dunk it. To your point, they do need to set up more low post opportunities for him. That may be something that he has to take upon himself though.

Issue is that you can't back a person down without dribbling, just like you can't spin through for a hook (his principle inside move) without exposing the ball to hacks. He needs to get into position to score in about a second, literally. He can't do that from 15 out. Get him the ball from eight feet, then tell him to take his guy. But they're too keen on exploiting the mismatch to properly set up the score.

Also, LMA has zero problem going at Capela, because Clint won't get flopping calls very often and isn't a threat to steal the ball. Watch LMA's better post-ups; they're almost all on Capela.

[urunobili]

The flopping of the smaller rockets has LMA backing down to post them up... with that being said, just 1 bucket that I recall was a successful punishing of Harden down low. He has been owning him as if he was a prime Olajuwon TBH

[808]

Goodbye to this guy

[HarlemHeat37]

Feed those kids, my nigga..feed those kids..

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Goodbye to this guy

Or, Manu opts out, re-signs for the vet minimum, and we pay Simmons (and Mills)

[-21-]

Watching the game, I kept thinking about how we'd be able to keep this guy. He has earned a nice payday.

[marinoman]

What is his entire +/- these playoffs? I feel like it's superhigh even though he's often in the game with lee who seemed to struggle mightily in both series

[ace3g]

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Restricted Early Bird rights for Jonathon Simmons this summer. Max offer for SAS is $7.7m in Y1 (or cap space if available).

[Budkin]

Can't lose this dude... gotta find a way to keep him...

[808]

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Restricted Early Bird rights for Jonathon Simmons this summer. Max offer for SAS is $7.7m in Y1 (or cap space if available).

Thanks ace

[BackHome]

He did good but I want to see how he plays against a team that plays defense. If he does good this next round then I will join his bandwagon......but glad for him being a home town kid in Houston and playing great in front of your family.

[bic50]

He's a keeper

[Chinook]

Coach Nick just called him "mini-Kawhi". What the fuck? They aren't remotely similar.

[100%duncan]

Coach Nick just called him "mini-Kawhi". What the fuck? They aren't remotely similar.

He's retarded tbh. Regressed

[808]

Coach Nick just called him "mini-Kawhi". What the fuck? They aren't remotely similar.

Both black, and Simms is 1" shorter

[look_at_g_shred]

That perimeter defense, particularly on harden was just fantastic.

[NASpurs]

The guy on NBA TV keeps calling him "The Baby Klaw"

[coachmac87]

Coach Nick just called him "mini-Kawhi". What the fuck? They aren't remotely similar.

Coach Nick is wack

[Russ]

He's "Warrior Kryptonite" and always will be.

:flag:

[Vic Petro]

Simmons got that glow

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0007071157_10.jpg

[Russ]

He's "Warrior Kryptonite" and always will be.

:flag:

Unfortunately, only Simmons looks willing to be Kryptonite . . .