PDA

View Full Version : CANNOT GET RID OF JSIMMS



sananspursfan21
05-16-2017, 08:58 PM
Pay that man. No way we let him walk tbh

webshad
05-16-2017, 09:00 PM
Pay that man. No way we let him walk tbh

I agree. He can play the new Manu role.

cjw
05-16-2017, 09:04 PM
Problem is Spurs are limited in what they can pay him at just over 104.5% of the MLE if they don't use cap space. Some team could sign him to an offer sheet the Spurs can't match economically.

Budkin
05-16-2017, 09:06 PM
Pay the man. If we don't the Dubs will.

Robz4000
05-16-2017, 09:06 PM
He's gone.

duncan2k5
05-16-2017, 09:09 PM
I keep telling ppl he is better than Danny Green...But some reason we are infatuated with danny

DeRozan m8
05-16-2017, 09:10 PM
Dump Aldridge

Dump Gasol

Sign Simmons

Always loved this guy.

Him and Murray are the future, with Kawhi

SAGirl
05-16-2017, 09:12 PM
Just use capspace if you must
IMO most important guy to retain.
I already have voice opinion that some guys in the team are overpaid (ahem Gasol)

illusioNtEk
05-16-2017, 09:13 PM
Plz pay the man and start him along side KL

SAGirl
05-16-2017, 09:14 PM
JSimms bet player for the Spurs in this game.

TheGreatYacht
05-16-2017, 09:14 PM
D-League Danny should give him his salary and roster spot

Fatty Mills, Deadman, and Lee should NOT be brought back

cjw
05-16-2017, 09:15 PM
Pay the man. If we don't the Dubs will.

Of all teams, the Ws can't. They'll only have the room exception as they'll need cap space to resign KD. With our luck they sign a stud ringchaser to that though.

polandprzem
05-16-2017, 09:20 PM
HE can be easily overpaid - Now he has few good games but overall he is not as good as ppl create

8FOR!3
05-16-2017, 09:20 PM
D-League Danny should give him his salary and roster spot

Fatty Mills, Deadman, and Lee should NOT be brought back

Why shouldn't Dedmon be brought back?

spursistan
05-16-2017, 09:21 PM
He's gone.

sasaint
05-16-2017, 09:23 PM
JSimms bet player for the Spurs in this game.

Damning him with faint praise, tbh. He is the only player in this game for the Spurs.

I'm glad to see my guy blossom in these playoffs. I hope we figure out a way to keep him. Based on this game - as the cherry on top of the shit sundae - PATFO has got to see that Pau And LMA absolutely must go - but most especially LMA, whose alpha mask has been yanked off to reveal a poor role player under the disguise.

TheGreatYacht
05-16-2017, 09:23 PM
Why shouldn't Dedmon be brought back?
Overrated. Would rather pay McGee tbh

sasaint
05-16-2017, 09:24 PM
Why shouldn't Dedmon be brought back?

Because Pop made that decision over a month ago.

DeRozan m8
05-16-2017, 09:27 PM
JSimms bet player for the Spurs in this game.

I've even liked Kyle compared to most of the others.

:toast

sasaint
05-16-2017, 09:29 PM
I have watched so many of those LMA fadeaways that I hope he is wearing some other uniform and nauseating some other fans next season.

spursmvp
05-16-2017, 09:31 PM
How much cap space do we have to pay simmons?

BatManu20
05-16-2017, 09:31 PM
He gone.

100%duncan
05-16-2017, 09:34 PM
I dont care if we keep him, but he better get that money. Deserves more in life than pussy ass aldridge

sasaint
05-16-2017, 09:34 PM
Wow, Dubs face stiffer competition in intrasquad scrimmages than the Spurs are offering. I really expected more energy to start the 3rd quarter.

Wow, if Timmy were dead, he'd be rolling over in his grave. This has to be killing him.

TheGreatYacht
05-16-2017, 09:35 PM
I have watched so many of those LMA fadeaways that I hope he is wearing some other uniform and nauseating some other fans next season.
Typical Fatty Mills at point game then

100%duncan
05-16-2017, 09:36 PM
Typical Fatty Mills at point game then

Except Mills is paid like 4 million and Aldridge 20 million :lol

sasaint
05-16-2017, 09:36 PM
Dump Aldridge

Dump Gasol

Sign Simmons

Always loved this guy.

Him and Murray are the future, with Kawhi

Without finding a real front court, that future don't look so bright.

8FOR!3
05-16-2017, 09:53 PM
Overrated. Would rather pay McGee tbh

I think he is what he is. McGee brings similar things, more athletic but he also is more of a bonehead. That turnover he had earlier was atrocious.

urunobili
05-16-2017, 09:55 PM
#paysimmons

davidbowie
05-16-2017, 09:59 PM
Took him too long to get to the NBA to live in SATX

FkLA
05-16-2017, 10:01 PM
I said I could see him turning into a poor man's DWade when I first saw him dominating Summer League. He's made it, tbh.

DeRozan m8
05-16-2017, 10:02 PM
Without finding a real front court, that future don't look so bright.

Well, we find a real front court too.

But this is the back court future, Murrays gonna kill it, Simmons gonna tidy himself up.

Spurtacular
05-16-2017, 10:04 PM
spurraider21

In game thread. For what its worth, not totally hating your point. You just picked the shittiest time to make it. Pafucklia had just robbed the spurs of a ring, and you're worried about a thread being made :lmao

phxspurfan
05-16-2017, 10:04 PM
He will be overpaid this summer

RD2191
05-16-2017, 10:08 PM
Meh, consistency is key here and he's had trouble with that all season. Can't overreact to one game.

DieHardSpursFan1537
05-16-2017, 10:16 PM
Get rid of Gasoft and give some of that sweet chaching to The Juice.

noles1983
05-16-2017, 10:18 PM
Trade LMA for a kit kat and use some of that money for Simmons, and give him half the kit kat.

Truth4sale$
05-16-2017, 11:14 PM
Simmons needs to start game 3 over Danny Green, we need athleticism and a "hungry" attitude to start the game
Let him be Kawhi's #2 since Aldridge does not want to be.

Ditty
05-16-2017, 11:17 PM
I'm pretty sure he will stay at a bit of a discount unless we come back, and win it all.

He seems to like it here. Only other place I could see going too is Houston, but I don't think they have the salary cap to pay him.

I would not be surprised if one of his demands to stay is to keep his BFF Aldridge though.

raybies
05-16-2017, 11:29 PM
I'm sorry. I'd trade Danny to keep Simmons all things measured. You need playmakers post Ginobili...

TheGreatYacht
05-16-2017, 11:34 PM
I'm sorry. I'd trade Danny to keep Simmons all things measured. You need playmakers post Ginobili...

PopTheGOAT
05-16-2017, 11:34 PM
I'm pretty sure he will stay at a bit of a discount unless we come back, and win it all.

He seems to like it here. Only other place I could see going too is Houston, but I don't think they have the salary cap to pay him.

I would not be surprised if one of his demands to stay is to keep his BFF Aldridge though.
He won't take a discount and shouldn't. This is his one and only chance to make big money for him and his family. He'd be an idiot to not seize the opportunity

bic50
05-16-2017, 11:35 PM
He won't take a discount and shouldn't. This is his one and only chance to make big money for him and his family. He'd be an idiot to not seize the opportunity
Agreed

PopTheGOAT
05-16-2017, 11:37 PM
Meh, consistency is key here and he's had trouble with that all season. Can't overreact to one game.
It's been pretty clear the type of player he can be over the last few games. An inconsistent role will cause inconsistent play. He's never gonna be an all star but he can definitely be a Danny Green type on defense with actual offensive ability

100%duncan
05-16-2017, 11:38 PM
Meh, consistency is key here and he's had trouble with that all season. Can't overreact to one game.

He was the 2nd best player against the rox when TP went down and only him and kawhi has come to play against the dubs :lol

SAGirl
05-16-2017, 11:38 PM
he's going to have to do it night after night and not get the complacency feeling after getting paid but he deserves to get paid.

100%duncan
05-16-2017, 11:39 PM
He won't take a discount and shouldn't. This is his one and only chance to make big money for him and his family. He'd be an idiot to not seize the opportunity

Yep. Aldridge gets 20, Gasol gets 15. He better get that money.

SAGirl
05-16-2017, 11:40 PM
He won't take a discount and shouldn't. This is his one and only chance to make big money for him and his family. He'd be an idiot to not seize the opportunity
This to everyone who mentions discounts ^^^^^ THIS.
Spurs have a lot of "deadweight" they can make moves for him if they want him.

daslicer
05-16-2017, 11:43 PM
Can't judge him off of this series. Many years ago when the Spurs got swept by the Lakers in '01 Antonio Daniels was the second best player in that series. A year later he was complete crap against the Lakers.

Ditty
05-17-2017, 12:11 AM
Money is not everything when you're in a great environment. I'm not saying he's going to give up at least $5+ million a season. Danny Green could of gone a few places from I remember that would of paid him more when he was a free agent, but he was comfortable where he was at plus we are winning. If Spurs really want Simmons, they will work it out.

BillMc
05-17-2017, 12:17 AM
This is likely his only shot at a big payday. He's probably gone.

Holden_Caulfield
05-17-2017, 12:24 AM
nigga has 4 daughters. dude is taking the biggest contract he gets tbh

ducks
05-17-2017, 12:24 AM
Simmons needs to start game 3 over Danny Green, we need athleticism and a "hungry" attitude to start the game
Let him be Kawhi's #2 since Aldridge does not want to be.

Vito Corleone
05-17-2017, 12:40 AM
Must concur, Simmons is a must keep, him next to Kawhi and an emerging Murray and you have a crazy athletic back three. I'd even consider moving Kawhi to the 2 just to make room for Simmons as the starting 3.

BG_Spurs_Fan
05-17-2017, 05:17 AM
He's an Arenas FA, the Spurs can match whatever offer he gets if they want.

313
05-17-2017, 05:34 AM
manu got offered 14 mil last season from 76ers, so i'd assume Simmons would get at least that

BG_Spurs_Fan
05-17-2017, 05:47 AM
manu got offered 14 mil last season from 76ers, so i'd assume Simmons would get at least that

He can't get more than MLE for the first year of his contract.

r0drig0lac
05-17-2017, 06:56 AM
He won't take a discount and shouldn't. This is his one and only chance to make big money for him and his family. He'd be an idiot to not seize the opportunity

sananspursfan21
05-17-2017, 09:00 AM
Problem is Spurs are limited in what they can pay him at just over 104.5% of the MLE if they don't use cap space. Some team could sign him to an offer sheet the Spurs can't match economically.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Spurs9
05-17-2017, 10:10 AM
Have always agreed with this. Build around Kawhi/Simmons/Murray

BackHome
05-17-2017, 10:21 AM
Simmons is alright but I wouldn't break the bank to sign him. To many one year wonders end up being signed to contracts they never live up to.

Blake
05-17-2017, 10:25 AM
If Simmons can work on that 3 point shot, he'll be a solid starter.

TheGreatYacht
05-17-2017, 10:33 AM
Simmons is alright but I wouldn't break the bank to sign him. To many one year wonders end up being signed to contracts they never live up to.
Just mention Danny's name. You know you wanted to.

raybies
05-17-2017, 11:04 AM
For those unaware, he's in one of those situations where some team could do the "poison pill" contract. I'm not sure anyone would but maybe a team like philly or Brooklyn. I see Brooklyn as the greatest threat.

Blake
05-17-2017, 11:05 AM
I'm sorry. I'd trade Danny to keep Simmons all things measured. You need playmakers post Ginobili...

Only if Simmons develops a 3 point shot

raybies
05-17-2017, 11:10 AM
Only if Simmons develops a 3 point shot
Isn't here more accurate then Danny this playoffs?

rjv
05-17-2017, 11:13 AM
doesn't the Arenas exception apply to Simmons? i mean, basically, the dude can't get paid more than the non-tax-payer-mid-level exception, right?

ernest787
05-17-2017, 11:13 AM
Simmons has been really good in these playoffs, but his lack of 3 point shot is concerning with this offense. I like the idea of him taking over the Manu role next year, but would really like him a lot more if he could consistently knock down the 3.

EIC
05-17-2017, 12:29 PM
Must concur, Simmons is a must keep, him next to Kawhi and an emerging Murray and you have a crazy athletic back three. I'd even consider moving Kawhi to the 2 just to make room for Simmons as the starting 3.

Fully agree, but put CP3 at the 1 for now. CP3, Kawhi, Simmons would be a helluva back court. Just find some serviceable bigs who actually play like one and we're straight.

rjv
05-17-2017, 12:34 PM
Fully agree, but put CP3 at the 1 for now. CP3, Kawhi, Simmons would be a helluva back court. Just find some serviceable bigs who actually play like one and we're straight. if the spurs could somehow pull that off, i would be content with a bertans and aldridge front court.

Dverde
05-17-2017, 12:39 PM
Simmons is going to the highest bidder. He has daughters to feed.

Morg1411
05-17-2017, 12:46 PM
I'd love to keep Simms, but if he has a chance to grab big money he will.

SAGirl
05-17-2017, 01:28 PM
doesn't the Arenas exception apply to Simmons? i mean, basically, the dude can't get paid more than the non-tax-payer-mid-level exception, right?
that is what the poison pill is... he can't get paid that much right now but then his contract is immensely backloaded.... like double the salary or more depending on the offers the last season or two. We don't know what he will get. One has to wonder what he's worth to some team in the league bc he showed things. What is more, he showed those things against the Dubs in the playoffs without kawhi and Tony and with Pau and LMA playing like pussies. He has shown more than Patty IMO. So he's getting paid... we don't know how much, if his contract is poison pill or not, etc.

DaBears
05-17-2017, 01:33 PM
With MG leaving & possibly patty (but I hope he stays), they need another Wing player that can create his own shot and play some "D".. IN the offseason JSIMMS just need to work on mid-range game and he will be nice.

wildbill2u
05-17-2017, 01:34 PM
I agree. He can play the new Manu role.

He doesn't have near the talent that Manu had at his age, nor the BB IQ. What they share, however, is a fierce desire to win, to never quit. And Pop saw that last night as well. We absolutely need a guy like that on the Spurs.

DaBears
05-17-2017, 01:35 PM
Danny Green -- really needs to go back to grade-school and learn how to dribble.. Only SG in the league that cannot dribble.

DD
05-17-2017, 01:35 PM
The black Austin Croshere...buyer beware

TheGreatYacht
05-17-2017, 01:37 PM
Danny Green -- really needs to go back to grade-school and learn how to dribble.. Only SG in the league that cannot dribble.
He's a 3&D player





























That hasn't shot 3's or defended well enough since the bloated contract

cd021
05-17-2017, 03:35 PM
Isn't here more accurate then Danny this playoffs?

He shot 40% from 3 vs. Houston and was a big reason why we won game 5

cd021
05-17-2017, 03:36 PM
Danny Green -- really needs to go back to grade-school and learn how to dribble.. Only SG in the league that cannot dribble.

His dribble drive game against Houston was surprising good, Van Gundy, and several writers pointed it out.

BackHome
05-17-2017, 03:56 PM
Umm it was against Houston worse defense in thenNBA - just saying

cd021
05-17-2017, 04:10 PM
For those unaware, he's in one of those situations where some team could do the "poison pill" contract. I'm not sure anyone would but maybe a team like philly or Brooklyn. I see Brooklyn as the greatest threat.

Brooklyn has one NBA caliber guard (Linn) Simmons would probably add 5 wins if they nabbed him.

As for Simmons, I am aware of the concept of poison pill and Arenas FA's ( IIRC, Simmons is one).
Just to clarify; isn't the first two seasons set at MLE ($8.5 million) but the subsequent years are only bound to the maximum he can can make for his experience?

For example;

8,500,000-Year 1
13,000,000-Year 2
13,000,000-Year 3
13,000,000-Year 4
---------------------
$47,500,000

cd021
05-17-2017, 04:14 PM
Umm it was against Houston worse defense in thenNBA - just saying

18th.
They weren't even the worst defensive team in playoff (Cleveland-21st, Portland-24th)

bic50
05-17-2017, 07:27 PM
I believe he stays. But he looked genuinely upset about the teams effort in the post game interview. Even though he knows he's going to get paid millions in the future he really looked like he cared about competing.

duncan2k5
05-17-2017, 09:47 PM
Have always agreed with this. Build around Kawhi/Simmons/Murray

This, tbh...Been saying this forever...Imagine a fast break with those 3...We need to pay Simmons and keep him...we need a player like that

emanueldavidginobili
05-17-2017, 10:16 PM
Yeah I hope he gets paid this summer. Sucks that he's already 27 though about to turn 28 in a couple of months.

TheGreatYacht
05-18-2017, 01:52 AM
Age already brought up ^ when he's younger than Deadman, yet ppl have no problem with his age

dabom
05-18-2017, 01:59 AM
Manu was still good at 32. And he doesn't have a lot of mileage on those legs.

HarlemHeat37
05-18-2017, 01:03 PM
Tough decision, tbh..you would be paying him big money for 2 weeks of basketball, since he was horrendous during the RS(and barely made the rotation)..

The list of players who got paid off 1 playoff run and then proceeded to struggle is loooooooonnnnggg, it's scary..I trust Pop and RC, though..if they feel like he's worth it, he probably is..

objective
05-18-2017, 01:35 PM
I think the new CBA allows the team matching to decide if they want it the contract to count like before, 2 years mle then 2 years blown up, but also are able to choose to have it count as the conventional way if they want. At least that's my memory from when the new CBA was done.

I'm less worried about his age because he has shown a lot of progress despite that age. His defense is much better now, he used to get stuck on every screen in a bad way, not so anymore.

BackHome
05-18-2017, 10:52 PM
He needs to be able to dribble left and right for me to give a decent contract. Every play I saw had him look left which was open but then he would dribble to his right hand into opposing defense.

But I have to give him credit he did play with some passion and he was not scared of Durant one bit.

TheGreatYacht
05-18-2017, 11:05 PM
He needs to be able to dribble left and right for me to give a decent contract. Every play I saw had him look left which was open but then he would dribble to his right hand into opposing defense.

But I have to give him credit he did play with some passion and he was not scared of Durant one bit.
So I take it you're 100% against Danny Green's contract then :tu

BackHome
05-19-2017, 09:58 AM
God don't get me started on Green honestly I have no Idea how a NBA SG does not know how to dribble. That's why GS is killing us we only have two players on our team that can dribble in open court without turning it over. Mills and Manu.

weebo
05-20-2017, 11:25 AM
JSimms--Spurs next great 6th man.