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Kawhi lost to the team that he beasted on. He stepped up against the Rockets (steph was out) and brought the Warriors back from at 3-1 deficit against the Thunder. He's the reason Durant is in OKC. If the Warriors lose to OKC, Durant probably stays in OKC. Kawhi didn't do that. If Kawhi is so great (in December 2016) why wasn't he great in the playoffs? Why was Klay, if Klay is basically Danny Green?
You cannot argue with the results of each person's outputs, their career totals and the fact they came into the league at the same time. You want to pick a specific time window (usually a moving target, the most recent good game for example) and compare to Klay's worst performances even though Klay is a 3rd option at best. You seem to think Klay is a 3rd option because he sucks, but he did all the things I mentioned in the quoted post. Sucky players don't prove themselves in the playoffs, and you cannot dismiss his results with the wave of a virtual hand while forgiving Kawhi's failure to beat the Thunder in the second round of the same playoffs.
"But Kawhi wasn't the 1st option then"....
:lol Neither was Klay
Klay's team had more success. He had some really good games along the way. That doesn't make him a much better offensive player than Kawhi.
You're a fat, stubborn idiot.
You don't have any faith in your schtick. It's not out of my price range. I'll go 1K but no lower.
It's out of my price range. So unless you have fat rolls to hide, take my bet, fat ass.
Klay's team had more success. He had some really good games along the way. That doesn't make him a much better offensive player than Kawhi.
You're a fat, stubborn idiot.
Klay played better than Kawhi but that doesn't make him better.
... :lol
It's out of my price range. So unless you have fat rolls to hide, take my bet, fat ass.
I offered you an 80% discount and you still cannot afford it. You picked the wrong UT to get your engineering degree from obviously.
How can it be out of your price range? You only pay if you're wrong. You seem to think it's too risky to put your money where your mouth is.
rasuo214
05-21-2017, 12:06 AM
wtf are you 2 arguing over?
Klay played better than Kawhi but that doesn't make him better.
... :lol
Kawhi averaged more PPG, PPS, APG has a better FG%, FT%, TS%, OWS, ORPM, OBPM during the RS. You can add 3PT% to that list during these playoffs.
So no, it doesn't make Klay the much better offensive player.
I offered you an 80% discount and you still cannot afford it. You picked the wrong UT to get your engineering degree from obviously.
That's fine. I'm a dirt poor be@ner that went to lolutsa.
That doesn't change the fact that you have fat rolls to hide or else you'd take my bet.
wtf are you 2 arguing over?
Cliff notes:
He thinks Klay Thompson is a much better offensive player than Kawhi. I think he's an idiot.
He claims he's not a fat fuck. I don't believe him.
rasuo214
05-21-2017, 12:18 AM
Cliff notes:
He thinks Klay Thompson is a much better offensive player than Kawhi. I think he's an idiot.
He claims he's not a fat fuck. I don't believe him.
Klay Thompson is basically a better version of Danny Green (LDN version not the last 2 years version). In what world is this even a reasonable discussion?
In what world is this even a reasonable discussion?
In his fat, diabetic world, apparently.
100%duncan
05-21-2017, 12:27 AM
Agreed. Feels awful now and will feel really bad if/when Manu goes too but damn. What an amazing job SA has done building this team out.
It's a good season, reaching the ceiling etc. But the way this team is built for the future, which is still the post-TD era, is not looking that swell right now.
100%duncan
05-21-2017, 12:28 AM
Damn D, just give it up bro. You aint winning shit with that take.
Kawhi averaged more PPG, PPS, APG has a better FG%, FT%, TS%, OWS, ORPM, OBPM during the RS. You can add 3PT% to that list during these playoffs.
So no, it doesn't make Klay the much better offensive player.
Not in 2015-2016.Klay was 12th in the league in scoring, Kawhi was 15th. You made the argument in December 2016, just a couple months into the latest regular season. Like I said, you use a moving target. If you're wrong, you abandon it like you did with the Patty Mills schtick. Now you're trying to move the comparison foward to today, 5 months after you made the original assessment even though I said "that could change". Unlike you, when I make an assessment, it's got a time stamp on it, not a moving target I can cherry pick or abandon.
That's fine. I'm a dirt poor be@ner that went to lolutsa.
That doesn't change the fact that you have fat rolls to hide or else you'd take my bet.
You don't believe that else you'd take mine. I wouldn't show my pic on here for 5 dollars and you know that already.
:lol coward
:lol two schticks killed in one thread
Damn D, just give it up bro. You aint winning shit with that take.
Which take would that be? I can prove my position with stats and facts. If you want to use the eyeball test, you're on your own. You also have to have a time frame of reference, not a moving target.
Cliff notes:
He thinks Klay Thompson is a much better offensive player than Kawhi. I think he's an idiot.
He claims he's not a fat fuck. I don't believe him.
I said in December that Klay was a better offensive player than Kawhi. It's indisputable at that time. I also said that could change. He even quoted me saying in this thread. He is dishonest and his schtick is falling apart.
He also only has 5 dollars worth of faith that his beliefs are true. So he won't bet anything to support them.
Not in 2015-2016.Klay was 12th in the league in scoring, Kawhi was 15th. You made the argument in December 2016, just a couple months into the latest regular season. Like I said, you use a moving target. If you're wrong, you abandon it like you did with the Patty Mills schtick. Now you're trying to move the comparison foward to today, 5 months after you made the original assessment even though I said "that could change". Unlike you, when I make an assessment, it's got a time stamp on it, not a moving target I can cherry pick or abandon.
Ok so what's your reasoning behind standing by that for the 16-17 season?
Pretty sure all of those except PPG would apply for 15-16 too. Kawhi had a better 3PT% that season as well. Plus we've had this same discussion numerous times. I've made it clear multiple times that Kawhi is better just by virtue of being good enough to be the top guy on an elite team. Klay hasn't shown that ability. You're comparing an MJ to a second/third wheel. All these other stats are just to destroy your argument even more.
You don't believe that else you'd take mine. I wouldn't show my pic on here for 5 dollars and you know that already.
:lol coward
:lol two schticks killed in one thread
And you know I'm not going to bet 1k or 5k on it. It's just false bravado on your part.
Kawhi>Klay on offense isn't a schtick. It's just the truth, you fat idiot. :lol
I said in December that Klay was a better offensive player than Kawhi. It's indisputable at that time. I also said that could change. He even quoted me saying in this thread. He is dishonest and his schtick is falling apart.
He also only has 5 dollars worth of faith that his beliefs are true. So he won't bet anything to support them.
It was absolutely disputable at that time, fat boy. Just because you say it wasn't doesn't make it so. You still think he's better too (just wait till June :cry).
Which take would that be? I can prove my position with stats and facts. If you want to use the eyeball test, you're on your own. You also have to have a time frame of reference, not a moving target.
You brought up stats? Is that what you call a 37 PT quarter, 60 PT game, and a really good game at OKC?
https://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif
Here's some stats for you, fat boy:
Kawhi: 25.9 PPG, 48.3 FG%, 36.2 3PT%, 1.43 PPS, 8.3 OWS, 6.4 OBPM, 5.26 ORPM
Klaynus: 22.2 PPG, 47.1 FG%, 41.8 3PT%, 1.26 PPS, 3.8 OWS, 2.3 OBPM, 2.77 ORPM
2015-2016
Kawhi - 21.2 PPG, 1.40 PPS, 2.6 APG, 61.6 TS%, 50.6 FG%, 44.3 3PT%, 4.19 ORPM, 8.3 OWS, 5.5 OBPM, 26.0 PER, 25.8 USG%
Klaynus - 22.1 PPG, 1.28 PPS, 2.1 APG, 59.9 TS%, 47.0 FG%, 42.5 3PT%, 2.38 ORPM, 5.4 OWS, 2.9 OBPM, 18.6 PER, 26.3 USG%
but Klaynus being a much better offensive player is indisputable :cry
i bring stats and facts to my argument :cry
Ok so what's your reasoning behind standing by that for the 16-17 season?
Pretty sure all of those except PPG would apply for 15-16 too. Kawhi had a better 3PT% that season as well. Plus we've had this same discussion numerous times. I've made it clear multiple times that Kawhi is better just by virtue of being good enough to be the top guy on an elite team. Klay hasn't shown that ability. You're comparing an MJ to a second/third wheel. All these other stats are just to destroy your argument even more.
So everything except scoring.
My reasoning? Because I made the observation in 2016 and you keep revisiting it as if I made it yesterday. Kawhi was the top guy and lost as the top guy. Klay was the 2nd option and won as the 1st option. You do the math.
And you know I'm not going to bet 1k or 5k on it. It's just false bravado on your part.
Kawhi>Klay on offense isn't a schtick. It's just the truth, you fat idiot. :lol
You won't bet anything on it because you're afraid to be wrong. I am in the driver's seat here because I know whether or not I would win. Still, I offered the bet so you must either think I am bluffing, which you should call, or you think your hand isn't strong enough to justify the raise.
So every time you use the same attack, that voice in the back of your thick skull will say "you and he both know you're too afraid to back that up"
It was absolutely disputable at that time, fat boy. Just because you say it wasn't doesn't make it so. You still think he's better too (just wait till June :cry).
Sure I love fucking with you. If you want to use a moving target so do I. There's a reason your country is 3rd world, most of you are naive and unable to grasp abstract concepts. You're also cowards which is why your governments are ruled by drug cartels.
You brought up stats? Is that what you call a 37 PT quarter, 60 PT game, and a really good game at OKC?
https://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif
THat's what I call the entire 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds of the playoffs, you know, when Klay averaged more PPG than Kawhi? When Klay carried his team to the victory against the same team Kawhi couldn't beat?
That's why I offered this after you compared Klay to Danny Green:
lwdlmTOvoas
Where's Danny's moment last year in the 2nd round? Hell, where's Kawhi's?
Kawhi 2015-2016 Playoffs PPG 22.3
Klay 2015-2016 Playoffs PPG 24.3 (less than 1ppg fewer than the MVP Steph)
:lol Kawhi getting beat by a role player.
:lol Role players averaging 24ppg in the playoffs
:lol "Danny Green" who averaged 9.1ppg
Surely a role player like Klay shouldn't carry his team to the Finals while Kawhi's team was done for the year already because Kawhi didn't make enough non-assisted plays.
These shit takes by folks like you (:lol Danny Green) are why no one takes you serious in the basketball discussions. Your hyperbole is out of control, irrational and whimsical.
Here's some stats for you, fat boy:
Kawhi: 25.9 PPG, 48.3 FG%, 36.2 3PT%, 1.43 PPS, 8.3 OWS, 6.4 OBPM, 5.26 ORPM
Klaynus: 22.2 PPG, 47.1 FG%, 41.8 3PT%, 1.26 PPS, 3.8 OWS, 2.3 OBPM, 2.77 ORPM
2015-2016
Kawhi - 21.2 PPG, 1.40 PPS, 2.6 APG, 61.6 TS%, 50.6 FG%, 44.3 3PT%, 4.19 ORPM, 8.3 OWS, 5.5 OBPM, 26.0 PER, 25.8 USG%
Klaynus - 22.1 PPG, 1.28 PPS, 2.1 APG, 59.9 TS%, 47.0 FG%, 42.5 3PT%, 2.38 ORPM, 5.4 OWS, 2.9 OBPM, 18.6 PER, 26.3 USG%
but Klaynus being a much better offensive player is indisputable :cry
i bring stats and facts to my argument :cry
The top set of stats was gathered months after your original argument. The 2nd was what your argument should have been predicated on. Klay's career pt total is about 20% higher than Kawhi's. They entered the league at the same time. If you think Klay cannot put points up faster than Kawhi, you need to show when Kawhi was able to score 60pts in 29 minutes. In fact, show one 50pt game.
Kawhi has become a much better offensive player this season. Klay's numbers have suffered due to the arrival of Kevin Durant. This season ended a few weeks ago, and it wasn't decided in the middle of December last year. This is just a take you feel worked out for you so you keep pursuing it. Like your "fat" take, you don't have any faith in the shit you say, you just cherry pick the ones you think you got right and ignore the rest. You even walked away from 5 thousand dollars without giving it a second thought, because you have zero confidence in your take. Klay didn't become a worse offensive player because of Kevin Durant. He just became less utilized. The fact that he could take a primary role in a huge series and dominate in it says enough. It's what fans have always used to make these calls. It's why Karl Malone was always considered a choker in the playoffs. If you elevate your game in the playoffs, you're legit. End of story.
:lol 5 dollars. Low rent motherfucker
So everything except scoring.
My reasoning? Because I made the observation in 2016 and you keep revisiting it as if I made it yesterday. Kawhi was the top guy and lost as the top guy. Klay was the 2nd option and won as the 1st option. You do the math.
Yeah, absolutely everything except PPG. In which he trailed him by a whopping 0.9 PPG. Which was reason enough for your fat ass to call him a much better offensive player. :lol
I keep revisiting it because you have yet to acknowledge that Kawhi is a better offensive player. You patted yourself on the back during the last regular season match-up because Klay had a good game @ SA. And you continue to say stupid shit like "wait till June".
You won't bet anything on it because you're afraid to be wrong. I am in the driver's seat here because I know whether or not I would win. Still, I offered the bet so you must either think I am bluffing, which you should call, or you think your hand isn't strong enough to justify the raise.
So every time you use the same attack, that voice in the back of your thick skull will say "you and he both know you're too afraid to back that up"
I absolutely think you're fat. I mean you have 60k posts and are so engulfed in this message board that you've developed an ego and sense of superiority on it. Tell tale sign that the extent of your physical activity is picking up your laptop, imo. Plus fat hands, obviously.
But at the same time I've never physically seen you, so yeah I guess there's a slim chance that you aren't the obese motherfucker I think you are. That's why I won't put 1k or 5k on it. But you know that. All this shit is just false bravado by your fat ass. You're depending on my unwillingness to put up that type of money to rid yourself of the fat label. Not going to work though. Sorry, fat boy.
Sure I love fucking with you. If you want to use a moving target so do I. There's a reason your country is 3rd world, most of you are naive and unable to grasp abstract concepts. You're also cowards which is why your governments are ruled by drug cartels.
You aren't "fucking with me", fat boy. You're simply showing that you're a stubborn, fat idiot.
THat's what I call the entire 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds of the playoffs, you know, when Klay averaged more PPG than Kawhi? When Klay carried his team to the victory against the same team Kawhi couldn't beat?
That's why I offered this after you compared Klay to Danny Green:
2015-2016 Playoffs
Kawhi - 22.5 PPG, 1.36 PPS, 2.8 APG, 59.7 TS%, 50.0 FG%, 43.6 3PT%, 82.4 FT%, 1.1 OWS, 7.4 OBPM, 116 ORTG, 28.1 USG%
Klaynus - 24.3 PPG, 1.28 PPS, 2.3 APG, 58.8 TS%, 44.4 FG%, 42.4 3PT%, 85.4 FT%, 1.9 OWS, 4.1 OBPM, 113 ORTG 28.0 USG%
Hardly suggests Klaynus is a much better offensive player. Couple that with RS and it's worse. Nice try.
but it's indisputable :cry
The top set of stats was gathered months after your original argument. The 2nd was what your argument should have been predicated on. Klay's career pt total is about 20% higher than Kawhi's. They entered the league at the same time. If you think Klay cannot put points up faster than Kawhi, you need to show when Kawhi was able to score 60pts in 29 minutes. In fact, show one 50pt game.
Here we go with the career total stuff. How many times do I need to acknowledge that earlier in their careers Kawhi wasn't the better offensive player, fat boy?
I think Klay is more likely to have a super explosive game than Kawhi. So was Jamal Crawford. But he doesn't have those type of performances consistently enough for it to lead me to claim that he's a much better offensive player than Kawhi. Or even a much better scorer. Kawhi edges him out in just about every metric and raw average/percentage.
Kawhi has become a much better offensive player this season. Klay's numbers have suffered due to the arrival of Kevin Durant. This season ended a few weeks ago, and it wasn't decided in the middle of December last year. This is just a take you feel worked out for you so you keep pursuing it. Like your "fat" take, you don't have any faith in the shit you say, you just cherry pick the ones you think you got right and ignore the rest. You even walked away from 5 thousand dollars without giving it a second thought, because you have zero confidence in your take. Klay didn't become a worse offensive player because of Kevin Durant. He just became less utilized. The fact that he could take a primary role in a huge series and dominate in it says enough. It's what fans have always used to make these calls. It's why Karl Malone was always considered a choker in the playoffs. If you elevate your game in the playoffs, you're legit. End of story.
:lol 5 dollars. Low rent motherfucker
His FGAs and PPG went up slightly. His USG% remained the same. But keep talking out of your fat ass and claiming his numbers have suffered with the arrival of KD. Or that he became less utilized.
You can't just cherry pick his best series ever and use that to make him out to be some kind of clutch playoff performer, you fat idiot. Especially when, in general, he's been pretty underwhelming in the playoffs. How did he do in the Finals during their title run? How is he doing so far this year? It's like using Harden's 2012 series against the Spurs to claim he raises his game in the playoffs. Fat moron. :lol
Emperor
05-21-2017, 12:57 PM
Murray/Butler/Kawhi/Ibaka/Dedmon. That's my dream line up for next season.
Jimmy. :toast
ace3g
05-21-2017, 01:11 PM
Jimmy. :toast
Murray/Butler/Kawhi/Ibaka/Dedmon. That's my dream line up for next season.
Send LA back to the team that originally drafted him -- The Bulls.
You can't just cherry pick his best series ever and use that to make him out to be some kind of clutch playoff performer, you fat idiot. Especially when, in general, he's been pretty underwhelming in the playoffs. How did he do in the Finals during their title run? How is he doing so far this year? It's like using Harden's 2012 series against the Spurs to claim he raises his game in the playoffs. Fat moron. :lol
:lol You're cherry picking Kawhi's best season ever to say he's a better offensive player than Klay even though their career numbers don't support that.
:lol acting like getting your team to the Finals is a fluke
:lol ignoring the fact that Klay beat the team Kawhi couldn't
:lol low rent and stupid
tholdren
05-21-2017, 01:29 PM
Yea. I remember in 2013 they put Klay on Parker and he also struggled the first couple games. The size bothered him until he adjusted and started going left and using screens a bit more.
They should have someone else handle the ball, let Patty run through multiple screens and try and get him free.
Shame a pro basketball player, a 2 nonetheless, cant make any plays when he cant shoot over guys... i told you all the key to this series was assists. Check the stats
:lol You're cherry picking Kawhi's best season ever to say he's a better offensive player than Klay even though their career numbers don't support that.
:lol acting like getting your team to the Finals is a fluke
:lol ignoring the fact that Klay beat the team Kawhi couldn't
:lol low rent and stupid
It's actually two seasons worth (including playoffs) of pretty much every offensive metric and raw average/percentage. Kawhi has the edge in the large majority of them in both seasons. Nice try trying to equate it to you using one series, a 37 point quarter, and 60 point game though, fat boy. :lol
The rest is just you desperately hanging on to career stats and using team accomplishments when comparing individuals. Weak shit.
It's actually two seasons worth (including playoffs) of pretty much every offensive metric and raw average/percentage. Kawhi has the edge in the large majority of them in both seasons. Nice try trying to equate it to you using one series, a 37 point quarter, and 60 point game though, fat boy. :lol
The rest is just you desperately hanging on to career stats and using team accomplishments when comparing individuals. Weak shit.
:lol ignoring the only thing that matters: PPG and wins. Klay had a higher PPG. Klay won. In games that mattered in the playoffs, Klay came through with huge performances. Kawhi did not.
:lol using advanced stats only when it suits your argument, yet ignoring the very first stat: points!
:lol fan boy homerism takes on ST are hilarious
rasuo214
05-22-2017, 12:16 AM
:lol ignoring the only thing that matters: PPG and wins. Klay had a higher PPG. Klay won. In games that mattered in the playoffs, Klay came through with huge performances. Kawhi did not.
:lol using advanced stats only when it suits your argument, yet ignoring the very first stat: points!
:lol fan boy homerism takes on ST are hilarious
Normally you have decent takes but this one is just atrocious. You can claim that Klay scored more points (on more shots btw) something that is factual but your extrapolation from that just makes you look ignorant. Klay Thompson is a limited offensive player (look at his % of FGM that were assisted for an example why).
Klay Thompson scored more points. Factual
Klay Thompson is a better scorer/shooter. Debatable (I'd say wrong)
Klay Thompson is a better offensive player. Inaccurate.
Also wins has nothing to do with whether a player is better offensively.
Normally you have decent takes but this one is just atrocious. You can claim that Klay scored more points (on more shots btw) something that is factual but your extrapolation from that just makes you look ignorant. Klay Thompson is a limited offensive player (look at his % of FGM that were assisted for an example why).
Klay Thompson scored more points. Factual
Klay Thompson is a better scorer/shooter. Debatable (I'd say wrong)
Klay Thompson is a better offensive player. Inaccurate.
Also wins has nothing to do with whether a player is better offensively.
Don't get involved if you don't want to see it through. Hit and run takes don't move me. This isn't December 2016. Go back and do your homework.
rasuo214
05-22-2017, 12:23 AM
Don't get involved if you don't want to see it through. Hit and run takes don't move me. This isn't December 2016. Go back and do your homework.
No homework is needed if your entire argument hinges on PPG.
No homework is needed if your entire argument hinges on PPG.
Here's how it got started at the beginning of December 2016. Notice that Fkla created the "better offensive player" strawman:
:lol Klaynus doesn't have Kawhi's body or fadeaway to overwhelm opponents in the post. He also doesn't have Kawhi's arsenal of midrange moves. He isn't even as good at getting to the rim as Kawhi, even though that isn't even a big strength in Kawhi's game. This is why I laugh when people say Klay is a better offensive player. He's really not. It's a whole different ballgame when you have to consistently create shots on your own instead of playing off of Steph/KD or even Raymond's playmaking.
What's Kawhi's career high again?
I'm a believer in KL, not as a superstar but as the best 2 way player in the game. Superstar is a term reserved for people with a lot of endorsements, or Tim Duncan.
You think he's a better offensive player than Kawhi, don't you?
lol idiot
I think he can put points on the board faster than Kawhi. Kawhi can probably get you a bucket from more positions. It depends on how you cherry pick the meaning of the term "offensive player".
If you had both on the same team, which would you want catching and shooting the 3? Which would you think would have the most points at the end of the night most of the time given the same number of touches?
About the same day he uttered this shit, Klay went for 60 and had 40 by the half. Indiana as a team had 50. He got embarrassed because he had already stated that Klay was basically garbage (extreme takes, indicated by how he has a cute little nickname for everyone he doesn't like).
Now he's trying to use the strawman to get me to admit he's right. I never said what he's railing against. Don't be fooled by it.
rasuo214
05-22-2017, 02:57 AM
Here's how it got started at the beginning of December 2016. Notice that Fkla created the "better offensive player" strawman:
About the same day he uttered this shit, Klay went for 60 and had 40 by the half. Indiana as a team had 50. He got embarrassed because he had already stated that Klay was basically garbage (extreme takes, indicated by how he has a cute little nickname for everyone he doesn't like).
Now he's trying to use the strawman to get me to admit he's right. I never said what he's railing against. Don't be fooled by it.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this but you still called Klay the man in GS. He's a good spot up shooter but on most teams he isn't getting those open looks. Curry has and still is the guy attracting most of the defensive attention.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on this but you still called Klay the man in GS. He's a good spot up shooter but on most teams he isn't getting those open looks. Curry has and still is the guy attracting most of the defensive attention.
Unless Curry was attracting the defense while being on the bench, that's not completely accurate. Klay beat Houston in the opening round without Steph for the most part. No team can plan on leaving Klay open and just worrying about Steph.
:lol Wait what? How can you call it strawman or sit on your fat asd and claim you never said this:
That's homerism talking. It's the same way people put Kobe in the top 5 all time over at LG.com. Kawhi is probably the best defender in the league, still. He's not even close to being the best offensive player in the league. Klay is a much better offensive player than Kawhi, right now. That could change based on KL's work ethic and the amazing results he gets from his effort, but right now, he's too inconsistent to be considered a great offensive player. He's good, no doubt, but Klay can carry a team on offense. KL cannot. He can do well some times, but he can never do Klay level good.
But you're a Bernie guy. It's understandable you'd be easily misled.
:lol Wait what? How can you call it strawman or sit on your fat asd and claim you never said this:
More misdirection...
I said that AFTER you said this:
As a spot-up shooter I'd take Klay, sure.
Given the same amount of touches, in the same situation (aka without all-world players to play off of) it's Kawhi, easily. I don't care if you're more explosive and can score 60 when playing off others, you aren't a better offensive player than a guy that is superior at getting points on his own when defenses are focused primarily on him.
Clearly I qualified how i was using the term.
:lol ignoring the only thing that matters: PPG and wins. Klay had a higher PPG. Klay won. In games that mattered in the playoffs, Klay came through with huge performances. Kawhi did not.
:lol using advanced stats only when it suits your argument, yet ignoring the very first stat: points!
:lol fan boy homerism takes on ST are hilarious
When you call someone a much better offensive player it encompasses everything, you fat idiot. I didn't ignore PPG as I listed it as well. Whats really ironic is for the 16-17 season where Kawhi averaged more PPG you didn't call it the only thing that matters.
Klay didn't win. GS won. But keep using team accomplishments when comparing individuals, fat fuck.
More misdirection...
I said that AFTER you said this:
Clearly I qualified how i was using the term.
Crofl at trying to slither your fat ass out of det one.
It's right there. Plain as day. You called him much better, you said Kawhi wasn't great offensively, said he can't carry a team on offense (Klay can lol).
Crofl at trying to slither your fat ass out of det one.
It's right there. Plain as day. You called him much better, you said Kawhi wasn't great offensively, said he can't carry a team on offense (Klay can lol).
Klay did. Kawhi did not. I also said it could change. Kawhi was outscored by Aldridge.
Keep cherry picking. You lost.
When you call someone a much better offensive player it encompasses everything, you fat idiot. I didn't ignore PPG as I listed it as well. Whats really ironic is for the 16-17 season where Kawhi averaged more PPG you didn't call it the only thing that matters.
Klay didn't win. GS won. But keep using team accomplishments when comparing individuals, fat fuck.
You used the term then I qualified it. Its right there. :lol I don't dance to your tune, poverty boy.
So MJ didnt win, The Bulls won.
Such a stubborn, fat idiot. Thinking you can slither at your weight. :lol
Such a stubborn, fat idiot. Thinking you can slither at your weight. :lol
Still money available if you find your balls.
So MJ didnt win, The Bulls won.
More like:
So Love didn't win, the Cavs won.
Still money available if you find your balls.
:lol Trying to shed the fat label with money. Doesnt work that way, fat boy. Get on a treadmill.
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So Love didn't win, the Cavs won.
Put up or shut up.
Put up or shut up.
Push ups or sit ups.
Get on it, fat boy.
Push ups or sit ups.
Get on it, fat boy.
:lol sure
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