FAKE NEWS: Pop basically called the entire team sans Simmons a bunch of

[$pursDynasty]

Pussies in the post game press conference, and I concur

[ElNono]

so what's he gonna do about it?

[Atl Spur]

Rightfully so!!! LMA should be ashamed of himself.........but he's not!

[Atl Spur]

Green must go, Anderson must go, and LMA needs to be traded to Phoenix....

[SAGirl]

Green must go, Anderson must go, and LMA needs to be traded to Phoenix....
really tired of your repetitive rant... if there was anything else you cared to share I would listen but this is the same thing over and over and over and over and over.. you get it right?
and over....

[Keepin' it real]

Pussies in the post game press conference, and I concur

Did he talk more about the dangers of texting and driving?

[$pursDynasty]

Simmons doing post game press conference in a playoff game, who would have thunk it? He deserves it especially tonight

[SAGirl]

Some guys are just limited but within their limitations they competed.
Other guys just didn't show up. They are the supposed "leaders" and "stars" heh

[Proxy]

It sucks... I don't think any of us here would give much of a shit if LA and Pau were getting their shots blocked taking it to the rim or missing tough shots on strong moves... fadeaway shit and yelling when I was smaller SF bodies them up is so pathetic

[Ditty]

so what's he gonna do about it?

Continue to start Aldridge & Gasol together. Run four down in the post five times in a row to Aldridge which results in a turnover every time, and randomly tell us how terrible our president is and how he impacted his team’s horrible effort tonight.

[spursparker9]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8vvj6T0v7c

"Jon was in a category by himself, the others were in the other category" :lol

[SAGirl]

Continue to start Aldridge & Gasol together. Run four down in the post five times in a row to Aldridge which results in a turnover every time, and randomly tell us how terrible our president is, which impacted his team’s horrible effort tonight.
:lol
funny but if Kawhi is out for the season this is going to be exactly the next two games and the season is over.

[Atl Spur]

SAGirl..........sure thing. Maybe Kyle will shoot after all!! Effort is not a skillset, it's a mindset! All WINNERS possess a certain mindset that those three lacking....

[Hoops Czar]

so what's he gonna do about it?
He's a GOAT coach. Teach, get the most out of what he's got, put players in positions to succeed.... oh wait, Tim Duncan retired.

[spurs10]

Well after blowing a 23 point lead in a a quarter and a half what did anyone expect? I've got seats for Game 4, but not sure I want to subject myself to this. Tonight was an all time low for us I'm pretty sure.

[FkLA]

Well after blowing a 23 point lead in a a quarter and a half what did anyone expect? I've got seats for Game 4, but not sure I want to subject myself to this. Tonight was an all time low for us I'm pretty sure.

How many and what section?

[GSH]

really tired of your repetitive rant... if there was anything else you cared to share I would listen but this is the same thing over and over and over and over and over.. you get it right?
and over....



You started out really good... then you took your foot off the gas. Still get an A- for the effort, but you really have to step up your game. :lol

[SAGirl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8vvj6T0v7c

"Jon was in a category by himself, the others were in the other category" :lol
Thanks for sharing.
Well deserved praise for Jon. He really came to play.

but in general Pop elaborated that guys mentally just didn't believe they could win this and thus they didn't come out to really play. And he was emphatic that Lamarcus had to score the basketball, he was hesitating and passing up on shots. Just terrible. i don't think Pop wanted to single out anybody. Thus why he said Jon was in a category by himself, but obviously there are guys who have a bigger burden than others.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

And who, pray tell, was responsible for identifying these model players for his system and signing them?

Dude needs to look in the mirror if he's going to continue to trot out LaBeta and Gasoft with Dedmon and Bertans riding the pine.

[Proxy]

that's the most I've heard him call LA out, so we'll see if anything comes of it

[SAGirl]

You started out really good... then you took your foot off the gas. Still get an A- for the effort, but you really have to step up your game. :lol
lol I get the sarcasm but not the reference.
Atl Spur just has nothing else but get rid of Danny, LMA and Anderson. Clearly he doesn't like them but there is nothing else to his posts. ahhh maybe I was a bit sour by this game... normally I don't tend to be rude.

[SAGirl]

SAGirl..........sure thing. Maybe Kyle will shoot after all!! Effort is not a skillset, it's a mindset! All WINNERS possess a certain mindset that those three lacking....
He took a lot of shots for his usual passive self and in a game where his jumpshot wasn't falling. I don't think he stopped competing. He missed shots.

[GSH]

lol I get the sarcasm but not the reference.
Atl Spur just has nothing else but get rid of Danny, LMA and Anderson. Clearly he doesn't like them but there is nothing else to his posts. ahhh maybe I was a bit sour by this game... normally I don't tend to be rude.


No reference. Just, 'I would gladly listen to anything else you have to say". Just way too nice. :lol

[EIC]

Simmons and Kawhi. Everyone else can go. Bring in CP3 and Melo. Find a legit center.

[SAGirl]

And who, pray tell, was responsible for identifying these model players for his system and signing them?

Dude needs to look in the mirror if he's going to continue to trot out LaBeta and Gasoft with Dedmon and Bertans riding the pine.
I thought an argument could have been made for his lineups out there... but considering it really was Jon against the world... I will lay off on Pop for this one.
He will need to find playing time for Bertans and Dedmon... though Dedmon is limited he competes. Bertans is a really talented shooter and the team can use that. Up to Pop what he wants to do.

[GSH]

"Pop basically called the entire team sans Simmons a bunch of Pussies in the post game press conference".


About two hours after every single poster on ST had said it at least once. Get with the program, Pop.

[100%duncan]

Pop going ham on the team :lmao

[SAGirl]

No reference. Just, 'I would gladly listen to anything else you have to say". Just way too nice. :lol
I wasn't being false either.
I read a lot of stuff. Some guys do have really interesting takes.. but when someone keeps on with the same thing over and over and no substance about anything else it does tire me. Atl Spur is not nearly that bad.. I could have ignore it. He really doesnt' post often but when he does it's get rid of LMA, Anderson and Green they don't compete etc.

I would disagree bc I think LMA is the one who is very talented but doesn't compete. I think Danny competes but he's limited offensively and Anderson is limited too in role, in minutes, in opportunities and in talent. He's skilled at some things and not others. So I disagree with his generic evaluation.

[daslicer]

Hopefully Pop has a moment where the team doesn't listen to him anymore. He needs to be humbled.

[YGWHI]

that's the most I've heard him call LA out, so we'll see if anything comes of it

Pop doesn't call out an individual player, most times he plays the soft card about the whole team, blah blah...But he already said "Lamarcus has to score for us. He can't be timid. He turned down shots"

Basically...Scared and soft.

Before the playoffs I thought the Spurs wouldn't trade him, he is their first big-name FA in years, trading him wouldn't sound good if they want to lure future FAs in 2018-19 without his contract and Parker's.

But now...IDK.

[100%duncan]

Pop doesn't call out individual player, most times he plays the soft card about the whole team...But he said "Lamarcus has to score for us. He can't be timid. He turned down shots"

Basically...Scared and soft.

Before the playoffs I thought the Spurs wouldn't trade him, he is their first big-name FA in years..Trading him wouldn't sound good if they want to lure future FAs in 2018-19 without his contract and Parker's.

But now...IDK.

Meh, almost everyone in the mainstream knows LMA has blown these playoffs.

[raybies]

I think you keep the team together as much as possible next year. We're too close to blow it up. It's Golden States time right now. Just look at their luck. I'm not going basketball gods or anything but we'll see if fortune favors kawhi and his teams like how fortune favored the big 3 of old. I believe kawhi will have his time and you plan for his future in this series and you show up to the dance and when it's time it's time. I also believe the narrative here if we lose this series having a 6 like effect even if it's just against the Warriors.

[100%duncan]

I think you keep the team together as much as possible next year. We're too close to blow it up. It's Golden States time right now. Just look at their luck. I'm not going basketball gods or anything but we'll see if fortune favors kawhi and his teams like how fortune favored the big 3 of old. I believe kawhi will have his time and you plan for his future in this series and you show up to the dance and when it's time it's time. I also believe the narrative here if we lose this series having a 6 like effect even if it's just against the Warriors.

The org is held hostage by LMA and Gasol anyway, doesn't matter.

[YGWHI]

Simmons and Kawhi. Everyone else can go. Bring in CP3 and Melo. Find a legit center.

Melo?? :lmao...If fans call LMA soft, they will roast Melo-no effort/no defense after his first 5 minutes as Spur.

[tmtcsc]

This team isn't made up of quitters. You actually have to start in order to quit and they didn't even do that. Simmons came to play though. Everyone else sucked ass.

[SAGirl]

I think you keep the team together as much as possible next year. We're too close to blow it up. It's Golden States time right now. Just look at their luck. I'm not going basketball gods or anything but we'll see if fortune favors kawhi and his teams like how fortune favored the big 3 of old. I believe kawhi will have his time and you plan for his future in this series and you show up to the dance and when it's time it's time. I also believe the narrative here if we lose this series having a 6 like effect even if it's just against the Warriors.
good take raybies.

I have missed you friend. :tu
You show up just in the nick of time with the draft lottery given to teams tonight lol

I kind of agree, but I think Pau is holding the team down. I like Lamarcus the roleplayer but he's obviously no star right now. JSimms needs to get paid and he deserves it. Tony is questionable, Manu is retiring and really needs to retire. etc. Even if they wanted to keep this crew together this had the makings of a one hit wonder.

[tmtcsc]

Look at this video of Aldridge from 3 years ago and tell me he hasn't quit on the Spurs. Seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWoTuAS2uxg

That's who the Spurs thought they were getting. Not the soft, mentally-weak garbage wearing # 12.

[BillMc]

Well after blowing a 23 point lead in a a quarter and a half what did anyone expect? I've got seats for Game 4, but not sure I want to subject myself to this. Tonight was an all time low for us I'm pretty sure.

Shaq/Kobe Lakers pounded us pretty good in 2001 and 2002 but Spurs turned it around in 2003. Things change in sports. Don't give up yet.:flag:

[YGWHI]

Meh, almost everyone in the mainstream knows LMA has blown these playoffs.

I'm talking about Pop calling him out in front NBA media after a playoff game. Can't remember the last time he did that, mentioning a player in this way.

However, one game won't affect LMA's status on the team but looking at his poor regular season and most playoffs games...it should

[100%duncan]

I'm talking about Pop calling him out in front NBA media after a playoff game. Can't remember the last time he did that, mentioning a player in this way.

However, one game won't affect LMA's status on the team but looking at his poor regular season and most playoffs games...it should

I mean, if you are a star and you have high expectations of yourself, you should be your own biggest critic. If a mentally-sound star heard the rant and watched aldridge play this whole playoffs, he knows its warranted.

[GSH]

This team isn't made up of quitters. You actually have to start in order to quit and they didn't even do that. Simmons came to play though. Everyone else sucked ass.


The big disappointment was Aldridge. The rest of the guys are role players. By the time a team reaches the Conference Finals, they aren't going to get it done with role players. They need an anchor - probably two, but the Spurs don't have that luxury. All the rest are role players - either because of their age, or because they just aren't as good.

Almost from the opening tip, LMA was turning down shots and dumping the ball to anyone in sight. Simmons doesn't have Aldridge's pedigree, but he basically said, "Gimme the damn ball." That's who Aldridge was supposed to be out there. Make or miss, he's supposed to be saying, "Gimme the damn ball." With him looking scared, the other guys didn't stand a chance.

[YGWHI]

That's who the Spurs thought they were getting. Not the soft, mentally-weak garbage wearing # 12.

I guess RJ looked dominant in NJ too. But not all players can lead with the pressure of playing for a successful team like the Spurs with high expectations

[Mikeanaro]

Pop doesn't call out an individual player, most times he plays the soft card about the whole team, blah blah...But he already said "Lamarcus has to score for us. He can't be timid. He turned down shots"

Basically...Scared and soft.

Before the playoffs I thought the Spurs wouldn't trade him, he is their first big-name FA in years, trading him wouldn't sound good if they want to lure future FAs in 2018-19 without his contract and Parker's.

But now...IDK.
If you get a player and that player sucks what else can you do? dwert went from LA to HOU to ATL.

[daslicer]

Look at this video of Aldridge from 3 years ago and tell me he hasn't quit on the Spurs. Seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWoTuAS2uxg

That's who the Spurs thought they were getting. Not the soft, mentally-weak garbage wearing # 12.

Part of it is that he has checked out but the other part is that I don't think the spurs system is a fun system to play in. It's a very difficult system to learn. I remember Horry once saying it took him 1 year to learn the spurs system and he has one of the highest BB IQ's ever. Barry another guy with a high BB IQ had the same problems that Horry did with learning the system at first. I think this is even more damning for LMA since his BB IQ is not as high as those guys so he has to be frustrated by playing in this system. The only guys who do well in the Spurs system is guys who the Spurs develop or guys with high BB IQ's.

[SAGirl]

Look at this video of Aldridge from 3 years ago and tell me he hasn't quit on the Spurs. Seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWoTuAS2uxg

That's who the Spurs thought they were getting. Not the soft, mentally-weak garbage wearing # 12.
he's definitely not playing like a star.
I don't know if it's his not getting in good shape, being past his prime or just wanting to leave his "alpha" days behind and coattail Kawhi or what.

[GSH]

Look at this video of Aldridge from 3 years ago and tell me he hasn't quit on the Spurs. Seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWoTuAS2uxg

That's who the Spurs thought they were getting. Not the soft, mentally-weak garbage wearing # 12.


That was probably his best game ever, wasn't it? A lot of shots fell that night. What's missing now is him bullying his way into the paint.

[Fireball]

giving him #12 was the biggest mistake ...

[Mikeanaro]

Part of it is that he has checked out but the other part is that I don't think the spurs system is a fun system to play in. It's a very difficult system to learn. I remember Horry once saying it took him 1 year to learn the spurs system and he has one of the highest BB IQ's ever. Barry another guy with a high BB IQ had the same problems that Horry did with learning the system at first. I think this is even more damning for LMA since his BB IQ is not as high as those guys so he has to be frustrated by playing in this system. The only guys who do well in the Spurs system is guys who the Spurs develop or guys with high BB IQ's.
He had no problems when TD was there, I guess he is not ¨real deal¨material, the kind of player that makes things like championships happen.

[dabom]

Look at this video of Aldridge from 3 years ago and tell me he hasn't quit on the Spurs. Seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWoTuAS2uxg

That's who the Spurs thought they were getting. Not the soft, mentally-weak garbage wearing # 12.

He still played the same. He's just getting doubled/tripled more.

[SAGirl]

The big disappointment was Aldridge. The rest of the guys are role players. By the time a team reaches the Conference Finals, they aren't going to get it done with role players. They need an anchor - probably two, but the Spurs don't have that luxury. All the rest are role players - either because of their age, or because they just aren't as good.

Almost from the opening tip, LMA was turning down shots and dumping the ball to anyone in sight. Simmons doesn't have Aldridge's pedigree, but he basically said, "Gimme the damn ball." That's who Aldridge was supposed to be out there. Make or miss, he's supposed to be saying, "Gimme the damn ball." With him looking scared, the other guys didn't stand a chance.
That is exactly what I thought. and in hindsight Pop even took it easy on Lamarcus bc he said "they ALL" came in with a kind of belief that they didn't have a chance and it was foregone conclusion they would lose. He only spoke about Jon and Aldridge when asked specifically about them. His initial speech was about the entire team not believing.

[YGWHI]

If you get a player and that player sucks what else can you do? dwert went from LA to HOU to ATL.

But LA and HOU don't have problems in landing great FAs, SAS is a whole different story.

Me? I would trade him. Spurs? Who knows if they already give up on LMA...

[Atl Spur]

Daslicer news flash....when you're a superstar you don't get to check out at your leisure! It's been fun cashing checks though I'm sure.........

[peacemaker885]

"The weak can't play for Pop" - Jonathan Simmons

[spursmvp]

He still played the same. He's just getting doubled/tripled more.

He did this in game 6 against houston last week. This is houston, not GSW. Different levels of defense.

[daslicer]

He had no problems when TD was there, I guess he is not ¨real deal¨material, the kind of player that makes things like championships happen.

He played harder when TD was here. TD had that influence on him. TD also had the ability of making it easier to incorporate guys within the system. Your probably right about him not being a championship material type of player but unfortunately they are not many bigs out there that are in this league.

[sasaint]

he's definitely not playing like a star.
I don't know if it's his not getting in good shape, being past his prime or just wanting to leave his "alpha" days behind and coattail Kawhi or what.

I think it is a combination. I think he has both a game and a BBIQ that are not compatible with the Spurs' system. I think he is probably as intimidated by Pop as the local press, despite the fact that Pop seems to take it pretty easy on him. As a consequence, it seems like he probably doesn't have a very genuine relationship with Pop. And ultimately I think that the Spurs' heritage and mystique simply overwhelm the guy.

Personally, I really don't care what the issue is; I just want him and his contract gone.

[phxspurfan]

He still played the same. He's just getting doubled/tripled more.

yup, if the team was cutting, playing with purpose and hitting shots after the Dubs doubled LMA he would have looked better. Hopefully they will come out at home and hit some shots and get some confidence back.

Also they were doing Pop strategies like doubling on the catch, then on the dribble, then single covering, switching, just changing it up a lot.

[sammy]

They all sucked except for Simmons! Dedman played hard was rusty but he needs more playing time as well as Bertans! Spurs usually respond after a humiliating loss especially aftervwatching those arrogant assholes so I expect Spurs to win at home & beat these fuckers! When they got their asses handed to them when Houston rained down threes I expect the Spurs to regroup & win! LMA will go for 40 & rest of team will be in double figures! Spurs in 6!

[sasaint]

That is exactly what I thought. and in hindsight Pop even took it easy on Lamarcus bc he said "they ALL" came in with a kind of belief that they didn't have a chance and it was foregone conclusion they would lose. He only spoke about Jon and Aldridge when asked specifically about them. His initial speech was about the entire team not believing.

Pop also dodged the question about leadership, which clearly applied to the lone, uninjured "star" on the floor.

[daslicer]

Daslicer news flash....when you're a superstar you don't get to check out at your leisure! It's been fun cashing checks though I'm sure.........

:lmao

[skulls138]

Rightfully so!!! LMA should be ashamed of himself.........but he's not!Don't worry, he took Bowens number for good luck......so we got that going for us.

[sasaint]

giving him #12 was the biggest mistake ...

I didn't like that decision at the time, and it looks even worse now. "Un-retiring" a number made the Spurs look look like wannabes instead of the dominant, proud franchise they are. Compromising the integrity of the organization's tradition for LMA in particular really is irritating. LMA should hand the jersey back, offer an apology and choose another number to soil for the remainder of his (hopefully brief) time here.

[UZER]

Look at this video of Aldridge from 3 years ago and tell me he hasn't quit on the Spurs. Seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWoTuAS2uxg

That's who the Spurs thought they were getting. Not the soft, mentally-weak garbage wearing # 12.

You know what's missing from those clips? Defense. Hard defense for every minute youre on the court. Takes the legs away. Makes them weak. That's why you can't come into camp like a fat ass. That's why at this age you have to start taking care of your body like Tim did. It's physically demanding and requires discipline to play here. But if your here, it's because you want to win championships. And if you're not doing those things, then you don't want to win championships and you belong elsewhere.

[sasaint]

That was probably his best game ever, wasn't it? A lot of shots fell that night. What's missing now is him bullying his way into the paint.

Yeah. Highlights from a single game are not a good representation of his entire Portland career. He has had a big game or two for the Spurs, too. He seems like pretty much the same player to me.

I wish Pop had taken issue with LMA's shot selection rather than the number of shots. He passed up some open face-up jumpers, but he didn't pass up enough of those damn fade-always.

[sasaint]

You know what's missing from those clips? Defense. Hard defense for every minute youre on the court. Takes the legs away. Makes them weak. That's why you can't come into camp like a fat ass. That's why at this age you have to start taking care of your body like Tim did. It's physically demanding and requires discipline to play here. But if your here, it's because you want to win championships. And if you're not doing those things, then you don't want to win championships and you belong elsewhere.

:toast Those truths seemed to be self-evident for about a quarter century. Then the Spurs signed LMA. I hope PATFO reaffirms those truths this summer and moves LMA to some bottom feeder where he can jack-up fade-aways to his heart's content and never get a whiff of a WCF again.

[Mikeanaro]

But LA and HOU don't have problems in landing great FAs, SAS is a whole different story.

Me? I would trade him. Spurs? Who knows if they already give up on LMA...
I just think its better to get rid of something that doesnt work than having a negative passive POS on the team.
FA never cared about SA anyway.

[YGWHI]

Why FAKE NEWS, mods??? People posted the video of Pop calling LMA out with being "timid" "turned down shots" in this thread.

[J_Paco]

And who, pray tell, was responsible for identifying these model players for his system and signing them?

Dude needs to look in the mirror if he's going to continue to trot out LaBeta and Gasoft with Dedmon and Bertans riding the pine.

He has always been the type of coach that will ride or die with veterans. That mentality has won him 5 championships, but it has lost him plenty of series too.

I'm not sure what everyone was expecting without Kawhi and too a far, far lesser extent Tony?

[raybies]

good take raybies.

I have missed you friend. :tu
You show up just in the nick of time with the draft lottery given to teams tonight lol

I kind of agree, but I think Pau is holding the team down. I like Lamarcus the roleplayer but he's obviously no star right now. JSimms needs to get paid and he deserves it. Tony is questionable, Manu is retiring and really needs to retire. etc. Even if they wanted to keep this crew together this had the makings of a one hit wonder.
Yeah unfortunately I watched a lot less ball this year due to learning and practice with audio engineering etc. Hardly watched any college ball and didn't watch quite a few Spurs games. I guess I was disinterested but the playoffs have great and I have consumed a lot.

With that being said, ball handlers and playmaking guards should be at a premium this off season. You have to have players as versatile as possible in this NBA. With questions with Murray, and Mills and Simmons due for a raise I think you look for another wing with size that has some experience preferably and that can ball handle and playmake. But yeah I think you have to keep Simmons and Patty and to a lesser extent dedmon. I would highly consider trading Green which I assume has some value to a former Spurs coach cause Simmons is more versatile all around. I think you keep as much of the crew together as possible next year and you prepare for cap space in 2018 when we hopefully have an emerging Murray and can sign another elite scorer. I hope Aldridge realizes he isn't a max here going forward and I'm sure we aren't gonna give that to him. With his health concerns and playoffs melting value should be low. I wonder if PHX is still interested. Not really Spurs way but for 20 years it hasn't really been Spurs way to pay players to not perform imo

[$pursDynasty]

Who is the admin going around retitling threads "Fake News"? Hell no one wants to be branded and semi-exiled like poor Testies but I contend that 98% of what is posted in ST is opinion instead of fact and that 98% of the thread on this site can be labeled 'fake news' from some posters honest opinion and all of the haters on the other side of the argument's opinion. The title says basically calls not ACTUALLY calls but this is a new era in the US so maybe I am just being slow to adjust.

[tmtcsc]

Here's Tracy McGrady and Stephen Jackson clowning on L and the Spurs:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTWnzg-klLA

[LkrFan]

Pop wants some more nasty? :lol

[tmtcsc]

Ok, point taken on the Rockets lack of D. I guess the scouting report on him is that tough double teams will take him out. End of story. He's a poor passer, slow to react to double teams and will turn the ball over when pressured.

[Keepin' it real]

Pop called out the entire team

What did he say about the coaching?

[UZER]

Ok, point taken on the Rockets lack of D. I guess the scouting report on him is that tough double teams will take him out. End of story. He's a poor passer, slow to react to double teams and will turn the ball over when pressured.

You think you misunderstood me my friend. I was referring to there being no highlights of Aldridge playing defense. It's easier​ to score that well when you're half assing on defense. You can't half ass on defense in San Antonio. It's taking his legs from him that's why he always looks so tired. That's why he needs to stop coming into camp fat and start taking care of his body in the off season. He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to, but winning championships takes dedication. So far he's shown he ain't got it.

Just reference the work out story with him and Duncan.

[absoloot66]

I think it is a combination. I think he has both a game and a BBIQ that are not compatible with the Spurs' system. I think he is probably as intimidated by Pop as the local press, despite the fact that Pop seems to take it pretty easy on him. As a consequence, it seems like he probably doesn't have a very genuine relationship with Pop. And ultimately I think that the Spurs' heritage and mystique simply overwhelm the guy.

Personally, I really don't care what the issue is; I just want him and his contract gone.

Totally agree. He knows he's not about that life.

[Horse]

We all know the kings are dumb as shit. They have picks 5 and 10. You put the 5th pick with LA you could arguably contend for the 8th spot which would thrill kings fans. Wonder if they're dumb enough to take LA for pick 10.

[$pursDynasty]

We all know the kings are dumb as shit. They have picks 5 and 10. You put the 5th pick with LA you could arguably contend for the 8th spot which would thrill kings fans. Wonder if they're dumb enough to take LA for pick 10.
if what happened this year in playoffs happened last year, I would have made the move of trading LA for Boogie, the Kings as stated were/are dumb enough to do it and it would have been better for them than what they got for Boogie. I am done with Bigs that can't/won't post up, so I will beat the drums for a Lamarcus for DeMarcus trade with the Pelicans. Hopefully the Brow will want Boogie gone. This time last year I hadn't given up on LMA yet but now I am feeling different. I want a killer to pair with Kiwi and LMA is not that, Boogie is an undisciplined one but maybe it is easier to teach a killer to be disciplined than it is to teach a player without the killer instinct to have it. Long story short it might be better to have the 'scarecrow' on your team instead of the 'tin woodsmen or cowardly lion'. It might be easier to get a player to play smarter than it is to give a player heart or courage.

[sasaint]

if what happened this year in playoffs happened last year, I would have made the move of trading LA for Boogie, the Kings as stated were/are dumb enough to do it and it would have been better for them than what they got for Boogie. I am done with Bigs that can't/won't post up, so I will beat the drums for a Lamarcus for DeMarcus trade with the Pelicans. Hopefully the Brow will want Boogie gone. This time last year I hadn't given up on LMA yet but now I am feeling different. I want a killer to pair with Kiwi and LMA is not that, Boogie is an undisciplined one but maybe it is easier to teach a killer to be disciplined than it is to teach a player without the killer instinct to have it. Long story short it might be better to have the 'scarecrow' on your team instead of the 'tin woodsmen or cowardly lion'. It might be easier to get a player to play smarter than it is to give a player heart or courage.

I doubt you can do ANY of those things with a mature player like LMA. He has never been to a WCF before, and I doubt he ever will again. For him to play with his lack of determination is just unbelievable.

[Chillen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8vvj6T0v7c

"Jon was in a category by himself, the others were in the other category" :lol

If the Spurs get swept and even if they don't unless Aldridge steps up huge this series he will probably be traded this summer. Definitely in Pop's doghouse now after this series, it has exposed him as a player.

[SAGirl]

^ Pop has given a number of interviews to my recollection where he has admitted you can't change who people are. That he can't make a player be competitive if he's not, and that he can't make someone play team ball if he's selfish. He has also said things like he doesn't know if court vision can be coached, some players just have a natural affinity for that part of the game etc. Definitely competitive desire doesn't seem something he can coach into someone. I think he's tried different things with Lma (and Pau)... things like that speech that players need to do their jobs and come to play. that if a doctor or plumber or whomever doesn't do their job, they stop having a job, etc. I think Pop has been outspoken (without naming anyone specifically) about this.
I suspect he's tried any number of things and gotten the result he's gotten.

[UZER]

^ Pop has given a number of interviews to my recollection where he has admitted you can't change who people are. That he can't make a player be competitive if he's not, and that he can't make someone play team ball if he's selfish. He has also said things like he doesn't know if court vision can be coached, some players just have a natural affinity for that part of the game etc. Definitely competitive desire doesn't seem something he can coach into someone. I think he's tried different things with Lma (and Pau)... things like that speech that players need to do their jobs and come to play. that if a doctor or plumber or whomever doesn't do their job, they stop having a job, etc. I think Pop has been outspoken (without naming anyone specifically) about this.
I suspect he's tried any number of things and gotten the result he's gotten.

Thats why I think pop is done with this dude. He's bipolar. You don't know if he's got your back in the bunker, or will just curl up and cry when shots are fired, because he actually does both. It's not knowing which one your gonna get that is the most frustrating part because you can't game plan for either one.

[Spur|n|Austin]

giving him #12 was the biggest mistake ...

[MultiTroll]

Yeah. Highlights from a single game are not a good representation of his entire Portland career. He has had a big game or two for the Spurs, too. He seems like pretty much the same player to me.

I wish Pop had taken issue with LMA's shot selection rather than the number of shots. He passed up some open face-up jumpers, but he didn't pass up enough of those damn fade-always.
All season long and especially now.
Pop strategizing like a retard in Game 2.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Look at this video of Aldridge from 3 years ago and tell me he hasn't quit on the Spurs. Seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWoTuAS2uxg

That's who the Spurs thought they were getting. Not the soft, mentally-weak garbage wearing # 12.

How the fuck was he muscling those players in the paint, getting position, and he is unable to move against Gaymond, Anderson, Harden, etc

[bic50]

Duncan had pop spoiled. No way does Duncan come out with no heart like that.

[TE]

#FAKENEWS

[DMC]

If the Spurs get swept and even if they don't unless Aldridge steps up huge this series he will probably be traded this summer. Definitely in Pop's doghouse now after this series, it has exposed him as a player.

Yes, boiled down to it.

However, what we don't see is the games and film sessions and private conversations with the coaching staff where Pop says LMA has to be a center now, has to post up, has to keep Kawhi involved, has to play differently.

I'm not defending LMA, but you can see him distancing himself from the organization every game. He was brought in to be a franchise level player, but he was instead relegated to a Tiago Splitter with a jumpshot. He was an all star in Portland, could put up 30 and 15 each night if needed, but in SA he's getting 15 and 9 with excursions into the mid 20's while KL is putting up 30 a night sometimes. LMA could have had that with Lillard, DID have that with Lillard.

Big men need to accept they either bang hard underneath or they have a good 3pt shot and defend like crazy. LMA is a midrange shooter who purports to decide before games how he's going to play. He needs to play the same way every night, just take what the defense gives, no preconceived notions but I think Pop's system is too cerebral for him.

[DMC]

Look at this video of Aldridge from 3 years ago and tell me he hasn't quit on the Spurs. Seriously.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWoTuAS2uxg

That's who the Spurs thought they were getting. Not the soft, mentally-weak garbage wearing # 12.
Against Houston and Dwight Howard. Not really that impressive but his moves were good. What you don't see there is the help side defender overcommitting to force LMA to put the ball on the floor or pass it. Instead the help defense is setting up just beyond the restricted area and waiting for LMA to arrive. He doesn't need to go that far, he can just up and under with a flip shot. Now defenses know to just pressure him from both sides and he'll either turn it over or pass out of it. Unlike then, there's no Lillard or other great shooter to pass to. It's Kyle Anderson, John Simmons, Murray, Manu, Deadmom and Midget Mills.

I think this team doesn't use bigs the right way. Other than Tim and David, and even David is questionable since no one should have been able to shut him down. What other big was used in the right way? Boban would be beasting out there, 40 rebounds a game.

[$pursDynasty]

Thats why I think pop is done with this dude. He's bipolar. You don't know if he's got your back in the bunker, or will just curl up and cry when shots are fired, because he actually does both. It's not knowing which one your gonna get that is the most frustrating part because you can't game plan for either one.
Uz he is worse than that, I could live with his coming out playing the "soft wuss, can't catch a ball, only shoot fade always uninspired self" 50% of the time if the other half of the time he was that dude (monster) that lit up the Thunder those first 2 games of the playoffs last year. The problem is we only get that dude 10 games max a year, and that is not a good trade off. If we got it half of the time I would just consider him coin toss that averages out and half a monster is a good #3 option. A 10% monster is more like a player that has a fluky game every so often.

[UZER]

Uz he is worse than that, I could live with his coming out playing the "soft wuss, can't catch a ball, only shoot fade always uninspired self" 50% of the time if the other half of the time he was that dude (monster) that lit up the Thunder those first 2 games of the playoffs last year. The problem is we only get that dude 10 games max a year, and that is not a good trade off. If we got it half of the time I would just consider him coin toss that averages out and half a monster is a good #3 option. A 10% monster is more like a player that has a fluky game every so often.

You'll get no argument from me.

My main point is I think pop is done him too, and will do everything in his power to get him off the team. Not saying it's going to happen because of the contact and cap situation. But they'll sure as hell try.

[Down Under]

His start in game 1 was really good. Deep catches and pivot and hooks over Draymond. But then he just goes into his shell again.

[tmtcsc]

How the fuck was he muscling those players in the paint, getting position, and he is unable to move against Gaymond, Anderson, Harden, etc

You saw that too! The biggest thing that stood out to me was that he looked engaged on the floor. Was ready for the ball, wanted to do something with it when he got it. He wasn't doubled in those clips so maybe that's where his struggles are starting. But still, he doesn't look like he even cares. He's in the WCF finals for the first time in his career and he doesn't look like he gives a fuck. Patty surprised me too. Dude is a shooter and needs to be shooting the ball. He's not a point guard and that experiment needs to be over. The Spurs just don't have many other options.

[TheDoctor]

You saw that too! The biggest thing that stood out to me was that he looked engaged on the floor. Was ready for the ball, wanted to do something with it when he got it. He wasn't doubled in those clips so maybe that's where his struggles are starting. But still, he doesn't look like he even cares. He's in the WCF finals for the first time in his career and he doesn't look like he gives a fuck. Patty surprised me too. Dude is a shooter and needs to be shooting the ball. He's not a point guard and that experiment needs to be over. The Spurs just don't have many other options.

Yah, his mind is elsewhere. It's sad actually. I confess that I was stoked when he chose to play for SA. I was at a BBQ w/ family and friends and started jumping when the news became viral on Twitter. I remember that I drank so much and I had so much fun that day. But nowadays when I think of LMA it's really sad tbh hahahaha.

[tholdren]

I wasn't being false either.
I read a lot of stuff. Some guys do have really interesting takes.. but when someone keeps on with the same thing over and over and no substance about anything else it does tire me. Atl Spur is not nearly that bad.. I could have ignore it. He really doesnt' post often but when he does it's get rid of LMA, Anderson and Green they don't compete etc.

I would disagree bc I think LMA is the one who is very talented but doesn't compete. I think Danny competes but he's limited offensively and Anderson is limited too in role, in minutes, in opportunities and in talent. He's skilled at some things and not others. So I disagree with his generic evaluation.

Danny does not compete when things are out of hand. Its annoying.

[Ice009]

I don't even want to talk about Aldridge. He needs to play great every single game from here on out for me to even not want to kick his ass.

Demarcus Cousins IMO would have had 40 points in game 2 with Kawhi out. I wanted to try and trade Aldridge for him badly when the Kings had decided they wanted to trade him. Not many here were even remotely interested. I think Chillen was, but I don't recall many others. It would have been a killer Kobe Shaq like pairing IMO. Demarcus also was/is a huge Kawhi fan, so I think he would have been good here. I don't know why the Spurs didn't try.

[$pursDynasty]

Ice if his chemistry isn't good with the Brow early next year, he will be on the trading block and we should make it happen. LMA would like playing with AD, it might work. I am disgusted with Bigs that don't post up, Boogie would make us a super power again,

[Ice009]

Ice if his chemistry isn't good with the Brow early next year, he will be on the trading block and we should make it happen. LMA would like playing with AD, it might work. I am disgusted with Bigs that don't post up, Boogie would make us a super power again,

Well in that case, I hope their chemistry is pure crap. It'd be ideal for the Spurs to try and get him in the off-season, but I doubt NO would be interested until they see how it works between Cousins and AD to start next season. Still, not sure if the Spurs would want to wait that long. I guess it depends on how LMA plays the rest of these playoffs from here on out.

[$pursDynasty]

Well in that case, I hope their chemistry is pure crap. It'd be ideal for the Spurs to try and get him in the off-season, but I doubt NO would be interested until they see how it works between Cousins and AD to start next season. Still, not sure if the Spurs would want to wait that long. I guess it depends on how LMA plays the rest of these playoffs from here on out. hey if that is the case I would be more than happy to throw Pau in as well once he opts back in (groan), or whatever sweetner it takes, there are only a few untouchables if it means Boogie. Pop won't do Tony or Manu, of course not Kiwi and we don't control Juice. Most of the rest I have no problem losing and while I like Davis, let's get serious we are talking about Boogie.

[DaBears]

Pop doesn't call out an individual player, most times he plays the soft card about the whole team, blah blah...But he already said "Lamarcus has to score for us. He can't be timid. He turned down shots"

Basically...Scared and soft.

Before the playoffs I thought the Spurs wouldn't trade him, he is their first big-name FA in years, trading him wouldn't sound good if they want to lure future FAs in 2018-19 without his contract and Parker's.

But now...IDK.

** I agree with 95% of what you spoke.. I think this team just lacks simple players with playmaking ability off the dribble.. As I have watched all season and mentioned multiple times from commentators like ( JVG , Jalen Rose, Reggie Miller ) they have no one that can create their own shot, all need to be setup to take a shot.. Spurs have to play a certain way this season because of that, and is why you see the ball so dominated by KL... Once that issue is addressed I think you will see SPURS playin the 2015 way again..

When you only have Patty Mills, KL & JSIMMS as your only players that can do that, your in trouble.. And PM & JSIMMS come off the bench.

[DaBears]

That is why they struggled so much last game and games throughout the season when KL went to the bench.

[DaBears]

That is why they struggled so much last game and games throughout the season when KL went to the bench.

That and KL is the 2nd best player in the NBA. Hand Down!! GAMES 1 & 2 proved it.

[$pursDynasty]

That and KL is the 2nd best player in the NBA. Hand Down!! GAMES 1 & 2 proved it.
hopefully game 3 will prove it as well, when a hopefully healed Kingslayer returns and the Spurs resume with the spanking that @$$ that was occurring up until the assassin Zsa Zsa Gabor took him out.

[DaBears]

hopefully game 3 will prove it as well, when a hopefully healed Kingslayer returns and the Spurs resume with the spanking that @$$ that was occurring up until the assassin Zsa Zsa Gabor took him out.

I can only hope for KL is at a minimum ( game 1 health ) or better by start of GM#3.. We should be able to tie up the series if he is.