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ElNono
05-17-2017, 01:52 PM
Nobody has a personal anecdote from playing basketball and twisting an ankle? How long it took to recover, was it painful, etc?

Trying to gauge what kind of timeline we're looking at with Kawhi's injury...

Chinook
05-17-2017, 01:58 PM
I hear it hurts.

illusioNtEk
05-17-2017, 01:59 PM
From my experience it really depends how bad the sprain was and how much it hurt when it occured. At times when I sprained it I was able to continue playing... wasnt 100% but could make a huge difference in the game by playing defence atleast.

One time I sprained it so bad it hurt and I actully screamed and was in pain... much how KL looked like when zaza injured him... it took time to heal id say a week before I was able to run or move with it again.. I remember testing it and didnt feel 100% still...

I honestly think we should rest him and reload during the summer... If he does play I hope to god nothing will happen to him. I know he will want to play and beg pop so we shall see.

At the moment my ankle is strong and have not sprained it ever since so it can heal with time.

rjv
05-17-2017, 01:59 PM
i jammed my finger dunking on my nerf hoop when i was 8 and was out for almost a week.

Mikeanaro
05-17-2017, 01:59 PM
Playing povertyball, it was horrible, sure I stopped playing and the day after the injury was hell, but treatment in my case was very vague, just ice rest and no pills, Im pretty sure pro athletes have much more advanced methods to heal ankles (esguinces) like Laser, Ultrasound, Magnet therapy, PRP etc.

DaBears
05-17-2017, 02:01 PM
Nobody has a personal anecdote from playing basketball and twisting an ankle? How long it took to recover, was it painful, etc?

Trying to gauge what kind of timeline we're looking at with Kawhi's injury...

** If this was the regular season ( he is out close to 2 weeks) for the playoff's he really needs a solid week to get from grade 1 @ 40% movability to 75% movability at about 5 solid days off.. Lateral movement is the toughest part of the recovery from sprained ankles.. Its a players pain threshold that really determines matters if he can give it a go.

apalisoc_9
05-17-2017, 02:08 PM
Played soccer.

Really depends. Some sprain you wont eve miss a minute..

I had one sprain that took about 4 days before i can start confidently moving.

My last sprain was brutal though. I was on crutches for two weeks. Applying any weight was painful. It took about 7 weeks before i could start walking again without any sort of pain.

My ankle felt like a sponge after not applying heavy pressure on it for 7 weeks.

Hopefully kawhi doesnt have the latter.

DD
05-17-2017, 02:12 PM
Played soccer.

Not something I would openly admit.

He'll be fine unless it's a high ankle sprain...what was the diagnosis btw?

Keepin' it real
05-17-2017, 02:13 PM
I ain't got time for sprains.

http://www.dealmac.bazookaman.com/aint-got-time-to-bleed.jpg

apalisoc_9
05-17-2017, 02:14 PM
I wasnt able to walk like kawhi did for the latter sprain. So its a good sign that he was able to walk.

LaMarcus Bryant
05-17-2017, 02:16 PM
Timmy played on 2 bum ankles in 2005.
Rub some dirt on it, kid.

coachmac87
05-17-2017, 02:19 PM
MRI showed no structural damage and I don't think he's in a boot so it depends on the swelling....

Amuseddaysleeper
05-17-2017, 02:30 PM
He'll get some shots in the ankle and suit up for Game 3.

He'll play with some discomfort for sure, but he'll be fine.

DaBears
05-17-2017, 02:30 PM
Bingo you nailed it... Now is just a matter of swelling & pain threshold for Khawi.... I am thinking if I was his doc, he would be getting round the clock treatment RICE and some other meds for anti-inflammation. Big thing with ankle sprains is the stiffness that happens.. So he probably is doing plenty of range of motion activities.

Dex
05-17-2017, 02:35 PM
༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ KAWHI TAKE MY ANKLE ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

bklynspursfan
05-17-2017, 02:42 PM
Bingo you nailed it... Now is just a matter of swelling & pain threshold for Khawi.... I am thinking if I was his doc, he would be getting round the clock treatment RICE and some other meds for anti-inflammation. Big thing with ankle sprains is the stiffness that happens.. So he probably is doing plenty of range of motion activities.

Agreed. Probably have heat on it during the game (if he plays) while he's on the bench too, or just keep the movement with some bands.

Spur|n|Austin
05-17-2017, 02:44 PM
I'm not a doctor but I did stay at a W Hotel last night.

My prediction is he'll score 30+ points in a Spurs game 3 win. He's not in a boot, he also said himself he was fine.

MultiTroll
05-17-2017, 02:49 PM
Besides scoring 4 touchdowns in a high school football game, I've hooped quite a bit and had numerous ankle sprains.
All depends on the grade. It's often the next day you find out the extent of the injury.

Worst thing I want to see is Kwa playing at less then 95% so the bitch ass Warriors and Warriors Media Cock Sucking Club can say "See see the Warriors still won 2 games with Leonard in so Game 1 didn't matter."

DD
05-17-2017, 02:50 PM
completely OT (except for our docs here) but yesterday I learned you can treat moderate asthma exacerbations and severe allergies/hay fever with 12mg Decadron mixed in orange juice (or w/e). It can replace having to give someone a Prednisone burst or dose pack, and it's just a one-time treatment. It's probably a therapy that's been around for ages but I found it pretty interesting, and effective on the first pt I tried it on. I don't think it applies to ortho cases but maybe some docs here know better

DaBears
05-17-2017, 02:52 PM
I think & believe this is the right approach by POP stating that he would be a game time decision. I mean i'd have him doing RICE & off his feet for 5 days straight, and not allow him off the coach.. Sure he might get bed sores on his gluteus maximus, but he can deal with those on his own time.

8FOR!3
05-17-2017, 02:56 PM
Is game 3 5 or 6 days removed from the injury? My guess is the average person would be much better after a week. These guesses have no credibility to them however. I was an exercise science major for a few years, I have some but not much knowledge about sports injuries and movement. For an athlete of his caliber I would think 5 days is enough time to heal and he'll play game 3. But not only am I obviously not a doctor or knowledgeable on the subject, I haven't seen the swelling and don't know how much pain he is in or what his mobility limits currently are. Anything anybody has to say really is just a guess. But my guess is we'll know the night before

ECOV
05-17-2017, 02:59 PM
During middle school, i had an injury like Kawhi but the opponent was right under me when i was coming down and i landed directly on his foot. At first i thought i broke my ankle because of multiple pops i heard when landing .I ended up having a swollen foot and bruising around my ankle needless to say i was in crunches for about almost 2 weeks until i started walking little by little but damn it hurts like hell. From the looks of it kawhi did look like he was in pain but was able to walk off the court, which to me is a plus. I wasn't able to walk when it first happened to me, my coach had to carry me to the car.

DaBears
05-17-2017, 03:02 PM
We've all watched enough YOUTUBE videos on sprained ankles enough since KL went down to all be able to diagnose his severity lvl and provide a treatment regiment. lol.... I even googled it... I feel like my 6 yrs of studying plus med school would be worthless,When I could have just watched YOUTUBE medical videos since the start of the playoff's and be certified.

Poolboy5623
05-17-2017, 03:02 PM
I don't see the pt in bringing him back....do you really think the spurs can take 4 out of 5 from GS?? Leave him out and let the vengeance grow with the team and Kawhi. Reminds me of 2003 with the Lakers. They were looking to go to their 4th finals in a row(3 peat), and they ran into a Spurs team that was finally ready to take them down. Hopefully that is next year with GS. Someone has to beat them....it will be the Spurs..

DaBears
05-17-2017, 03:04 PM
We've all watched enough YOUTUBE videos on sprained ankles enough since KL went down to all be able to diagnose his severity lvl and provide a treatment regiment. lol.... I even googled it... I feel like my 6 yrs of studying plus med school would be worthless,When I could have just watched YOUTUBE medical videos since the start of the playoff's and be certified.

-- I am in no way shape or form a Doctor, I just play one on tv.. but all is sound advise.

TE
05-17-2017, 03:10 PM
completely OT (except for our docs here) but yesterday I learned you can treat moderate asthma exacerbations and severe allergies/hay fever with 12mg Decadron mixed in orange juice (or w/e). It can replace having to give someone a Prednisone burst or dose pack, and it's just a one-time treatment. It's probably a therapy that's been around for ages but I found it pretty interesting, and effective on the first pt I tried it on. I don't think it applies to ortho cases but maybe some docs here know better

It's been around but only lately has that alternative therapy made its way to more "credible" grounds like uptodate. In med school we learn the ole ladder therapy for asthma management and exacerbations but once you get out into practice therapies are altered like crazy. About the only thing that is consistent with general asthma therapy is albuterol.

TE
05-17-2017, 03:12 PM
MRI showed no structural damage and I don't think he's in a boot so it depends on the swelling....
This. I really hope they gave him some steroid shots and it isn't very sore. Even then I think Kawhi still plays. Probably will be no better than 70%. Ballpark estimate I would have had him at an 85% for game 1.

Keepin' it real
05-17-2017, 03:15 PM
I was a Bad Boys fan back in the day ... have a renewed appreciation for Isiah going off in the '88 finals on a bad ankle.

https://c0bf49af09dabaaf4f81-3c5c7cf439b200c763d8c176f7f8a124.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.c om/images/images/9043/photos/large/heroic_effort.jpg_1fd3b6fc6e0669566e4d1347747d71f5 ?1402681718

DD
05-17-2017, 03:16 PM
It's been around but only lately has that alternative therapy made its way to more "credible" grounds like uptodate. In med school we learn the ole ladder therapy for asthma management and exacerbations but once you get out into practice therapies are altered like crazy. About the only thing that is consistent with general asthma therapy is albuterol.

Are you done with your residency? Either way, what specialty did you pursue?

hooperflash
05-17-2017, 03:17 PM
It took time to heal I'd,say a week before I was able to run or move with it again.. I remember testing it and didnt feel 100% still... At the moment my ankle is strong and have not sprained it ever since so it can heal with time.

Same, I was playing ball in some sock-like shoes (big mistake). I continued playing the game but then for a week I had to use crutches for precaution. I think he'll be good to go :flag:

hater
05-17-2017, 03:18 PM
Dont ask Fatball players tbqh :lol

Only muscle them lardasses have pulled is the intestinal muscle or rectum after a bad case of the shits :lmao

TE
05-17-2017, 03:21 PM
Are you done with your residency? Either way, what specialty did you pursue?
I took a LOA and deferred a year for personal reasons, about to be M3. I continued at a local med school that just opened this year.

DD
05-17-2017, 03:29 PM
I took a LOA and deferred a year for personal reasons, about to be M3. I continued at a local med school that just opened this year.

Good stuff, g/l with everything.

Texas_Ranger
05-17-2017, 04:07 PM
The day after it happens it hurts more. The problem is that if the ankle was already injured it takes time to heal. Playing the next or the second day is not good. Sure you xan play, but jumping and lateral quickens are not the same. I sprained my ankles a lot playing basketball and it takes at least 2 weeks to heal. And I am thinkink about a mild sprain. The Kawhi thing is a little bit more serious cause he did it 3 times in a week. In my opinion he should not play anymore even tho I am sure he wants to play.

lefty20
05-17-2017, 04:35 PM
I've had a similar bad streak. Sprained the same ankle in 3 consecutive playing sessions. First time I missed about 3 days, 2nd time I missed about 10 days and 3rd Sprain took about a month to heal. I actually had to drive back with my left foot after that 3rd sprain.

Keepin' it real
05-17-2017, 04:42 PM
I've had a similar bad streak. Sprained the same ankle in 3 consecutive playing sessions. First time I missed about 3 days, 2nd time I missed about 10 days and 3rd Sprain took about a month to heal. I actually had to drive back with my left foot after that 3rd sprain.

Was it that bastard Zsa Zsa?

ElNono
05-17-2017, 04:49 PM
thanks :tu

Joseph Kony
05-17-2017, 04:53 PM
it just depends. when i was younger and used to ball a lot, i sprained my ankle and was unable to walk on it at all but felt okay within a week or so. ive also had minor sprains where i could walk immediately after but it was tender for awhile. kawhi needing the trainer to help him off to the locker room was not a good sign but it just depends....i think with 5.5 days off he should be tender come saturday still but as long as he doesnt tweak it again he should be ok, imo

Mouth is Bleeding
05-17-2017, 05:05 PM
even if you can walk fine, for me even after mildish sprain ankle not quite right for more than a month.

jehawk81
05-17-2017, 05:15 PM
I purposefully sprained my ankle as soon as i saw this thread so that I could give an educated answer on the topic brought up by OP. It hurts like heck!! It took me 3 tries of jumping up & landing on an uneven surface to get a good pop in my ankle. I'm not sure if the pop came from a ligament or a bone, but i will keep ya'll updated as soon as the swelling & the bleeding stops

RD2191
05-17-2017, 05:22 PM
I purposefully sprained my ankle as soon as i saw this thread so that I could give an educated answer on the topic brought up by OP. It hurts like heck!! It took me 3 tries of jumping up & landing on an uneven surface to get a good pop in my ankle. I'm not sure if the pop came from a ligament or a bone, but i will keep ya'll updated as soon as the swelling & the bleeding stops

:lmao

sananspursfan21
05-17-2017, 05:30 PM
From my playing days, I was off the ankle for 2-3 days and had a fair range of motion for a week but wasn't completely healed for about 2 weeks. Still felt a little pain when doing typical basketball maneuvers.

ElNono
05-17-2017, 05:38 PM
I purposefully sprained my ankle as soon as i saw this thread so that I could give an educated answer on the topic brought up by OP. It hurts like heck!! It took me 3 tries of jumping up & landing on an uneven surface to get a good pop in my ankle. I'm not sure if the pop came from a ligament or a bone, but i will keep ya'll updated as soon as the swelling & the bleeding stops

get well soon, my nig :tu

lefty20
05-17-2017, 05:40 PM
Was it that bastard Zsa Zsa?

I've actually never had a sprained ankle while landing after a jump shot. Literally every single one of them has occurred while driving to the rim. I'm guessing it helps that I barely even jump on my jump shots, ala Brent Barry. Just wish I had his accuracy as well.

UZER
05-17-2017, 06:02 PM
If you're counting hours, he's really got 6 full days off.

emanueldavidginobili
05-17-2017, 07:01 PM
When I sprained my ankle for the first time ever I was screaming it hurt so bad, but it definitely matters on the severity. Kawhi is going to get the best treatment you can get though lets hope he can try it out. I hope he wears a ankle brace though this time. Ive worn a ankle brace before and its not that bad at all to play with.

daslicer
05-17-2017, 07:09 PM
I have sprained my ankle about 6 or 7 times from playing basketball. The first time I ever got hurt I tried coming back immediately after a week to play and I actually ended up re aggravating it. Even after re-aggravating it I still tried to play again because I still had 60 percent mobility but eventually I got frustrated after a week or two since I couldn't get back 100 percent of my mobility. I then decided to shut it down for a month and regained a 100 percent mobility. Spurs have great doctors but I think even with the best doctors it would probably take Kawhi a few weeks to be a hundred percent after his recent sprains.

RGMCSE
05-17-2017, 09:34 PM
I've injured my self playing ball twice in my life. First was in middle school. Ball was heading out of bounds and made a ginoblili type save except that when I landed my right foot was turned and I came down with a 100% of my weight on the side of my right foot and it popped. Loudly! I immediately went down in a heap of mind blinding pain. I immediately untied my shoe and tightened it the tightest I've ever tied my shoe before. When I saw kawhi do that I said oh fucking shit. It took me two weeks before I could walk normal and probably a month before I trustedjumping around on it. I never went to the dr and I'm sure that probably didn't help.

The other time I was balling at the gym and I tore my acl and meniscus and severely sprained my mcl. Damn near a complete knee tear. I've recovered and even played full court since then. But I'm retired fuck playing basketball tbh. :lol

One more thing about my ankle. After all these years I can almost hyper extend my ankle and I get a really loud satisfying pop. Sometimes at the end of a long day and I recline and watch tv it will pop three times in one. It feels great although I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

dabom
05-17-2017, 09:41 PM
I purposefully sprained my ankle as soon as i saw this thread so that I could give an educated answer on the topic brought up by OP. It hurts like heck!! It took me 3 tries of jumping up & landing on an uneven surface to get a good pop in my ankle. I'm not sure if the pop came from a ligament or a bone, but i will keep ya'll updated as soon as the swelling & the bleeding stops

Goddam son.

GSH
05-17-2017, 09:53 PM
Timmy played on 2 bum ankles in 2005.
Rub some dirt on it, kid.


Yeah, and Timmy developed chronic problems because of continuing to play with injuries. Look up "tendinosis". It's an over-use injury, and it never goes away. Basically, if you don't give tendons time to fully heal and replace damaged collagen, the body will sort of patch the area with what amounts to scar tissue. The scar tissue isn't stretchy like the original collagen. It's a problem in itself, but it also leaves the tendon weakened and subject to future injuries.

They never announced the grade of the original sprain. But even if it was a Grade 1, it was bad enough that he didn't play the next playoff game. Getting that same ankle "tweaked" that soon afterward - not once, but twice? There's going to be some tearing, even it it's only what is known as micro-fissures. Could he play with that? Sure - especially with a shot of lidocaine and a couple of Toradol. Is it a risk of more serious, longer-lasting problems? Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't play with any tearing still present in a tendon.

That's just the mechanics of how it works. Without knowing what's on his scans, and what his physical workup looked like, there's zero chance of guessing whether they'll let him play soon. And the Spurs clearly aren't giving any hints.

GSH
05-17-2017, 09:55 PM
I purposefully sprained my ankle as soon as i saw this thread so that I could give an educated answer on the topic brought up by OP. It hurts like heck!! It took me 3 tries of jumping up & landing on an uneven surface to get a good pop in my ankle. I'm not sure if the pop came from a ligament or a bone, but i will keep ya'll updated as soon as the swelling & the bleeding stops

:lol That's dedication.

Ice009
05-17-2017, 10:22 PM
Hey GSH, would you let him play if it was your decision? or do you not know enough about the grade of his sprain to be able to answer that? Since he's done it 3 times in under 2 weeks, what's your opinion on that?

GSH
05-17-2017, 10:49 PM
Hey GSH, would you let him play if it was your decision? or do you not know enough about the grade of his sprain to be able to answer that? Since he's done it 3 times in under 2 weeks, what's your opinion on that?


Unless someone here has inside information, none of us knows. I know the mechanics of the injury. And I live with some chronic problems from "playing through" overuse injury. If I had it to do over? If I'm being honest, I'd still probably hide how badly I was hurting to try and get to play. And it would still be dumb.

But I can't answer your question without being a pretty big jackass. I don't know anything for sure... not one damn thing. But after a sprain that kept him out of a playoff game, and two consecutive tweaks of that same ankle in the first game back? The likelihood that there is some micro-tearing in there, at the very least, is pretty high. Some of the top sports docs now just assume that there is some micro-fissure involved in virtually every sprain. I'm confident that the Spurs will have appropriate caution with the future of the franchise, and David Schmidt is damn good at what he does so they're well-informed.

My gut? I just saw him walking down the steps off the plane. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we don't see him in Game 3. Read what Lefty said above about repeat sprains.

DMC
05-17-2017, 10:51 PM
Last time I sprained my ankle I was actually in HEB in the sauces aisle, someone dropped a jar of honey and it broke when it hit the ground. It just happened that Kyle Anderson and Pau Gasol were there, and I back up quickly and avoided the honey which was actually cold and pretty thick, but it got both Pau and Anderson, and they looked at each other, and then at me, and we all started laughing. Then I sprained my ankle in the parking lot stepping off a curb.

Man In Black
05-17-2017, 11:11 PM
Worried about Syndesmosis?

I hope he's ready to play.

DMC
05-17-2017, 11:54 PM
btw, I thought the OP was saying that mods are changing his takes. :lol

Mal
05-18-2017, 01:50 AM
Nobody has a personal anecdote from playing basketball and twisting an ankle? How long it took to recover, was it painful, etc?

Trying to gauge what kind of timeline we're looking at with Kawhi's injury...

For me it was always like 2 weeks tops. Friend of my twisted ankles so many times, that he can still feel it after 1 year, but he can play.

DaBears
05-18-2017, 09:09 AM
:lmao

best read of the day.. cheers mate :bobo

chunticakes
05-18-2017, 11:15 AM
completely OT (except for our docs here) but yesterday I learned you can treat moderate asthma exacerbations and severe allergies/hay fever with 12mg Decadron mixed in orange juice (or w/e). It can replace having to give someone a Prednisone burst or dose pack, and it's just a one-time treatment. It's probably a therapy that's been around for ages but I found it pretty interesting, and effective on the first pt I tried it on. I don't think it applies to ortho cases but maybe some docs here know better

I've never heard of that but then again they only teach you the stepwise approach for managing asthma in school. I did however learn that for an asthma exacerbation you can use a fucking strong cup of coffee if the patient doesn't have Albuterol handy.

In theory it's almost like giving theophylline since they're both xanthine derivatives.

Good shit on the Deca. I'm gonna look into it...

LaMarcus Bryant
05-18-2017, 01:29 PM
Yeah, and Timmy developed chronic problems because of continuing to play with injuries. Look up "tendinosis". It's an over-use injury, and it never goes away. Basically, if you don't give tendons time to fully heal and replace damaged collagen, the body will sort of patch the area with what amounts to scar tissue. The scar tissue isn't stretchy like the original collagen. It's a problem in itself, but it also leaves the tendon weakened and subject to future injuries.

They never announced the grade of the original sprain. But even if it was a Grade 1, it was bad enough that he didn't play the next playoff game. Getting that same ankle "tweaked" that soon afterward - not once, but twice? There's going to be some tearing, even it it's only what is known as micro-fissures. Could he play with that? Sure - especially with a shot of lidocaine and a couple of Toradol. Is it a risk of more serious, longer-lasting problems? Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't play with any tearing still present in a tendon.

That's just the mechanics of how it works. Without knowing what's on his scans, and what his physical workup looked like, there's zero chance of guessing whether they'll let him play soon. And the Spurs clearly aren't giving any hints.

1. Yes but tendenosis in the patellar region not the ankle
2. I'm pretty sure we got a nice long career out of Duncan, 2005's double ankle bogey or no
3. No, the MRI showed no structural damage to Kawhi

Rub some dirt on it and play. We need our main guy to slap that stupid cocky smirk off of GS's shit eating faces.

wildbill2u
05-18-2017, 01:44 PM
Nobody has a personal anecdote from playing basketball and twisting an ankle? How long it took to recover, was it painful, etc?

Trying to gauge what kind of timeline we're looking at with Kawhi's injury...

It depends on the severity for the rehab time, but my guess is that Kwahi will try to cowboy up and play on it.

I got a sprain and kept playing on it as soon as I could. Strapped it up and played on. Kept getting reinjured and kept playing. But of course I wasn't getting the same quality of medical care as a star pro athlete. Nevertheless, the ankle bothered me for years after I graduated and didn't get back 100%. Sometimes I could trip on the flowers in my Grandma's rug.

cd021
05-18-2017, 02:41 PM
Not something I would openly admit.

:lol

GSH
05-18-2017, 03:00 PM
1. Yes but tendenosis in the patellar region not the ankle
2. I'm pretty sure we got a nice long career out of Duncan, 2005's double ankle bogey or no
3. No, the MRI showed no structural damage to Kawhi

Rub some dirt on it and play. We need our main guy to slap that stupid cocky smirk off of GS's shit eating faces.


Yes, it was a different tendon - plus it's Kawhi's left leg, and not the right. Totally invalidates everything I said. Thanks for the correction.

As long as "we" get a nice long career out of Kawhi, permanent damage really isn't an issue. So, yes, aboslutely - the Spurs should rub some dirt on it and send him on the court, no matter what. Stupid, cocky smirks have to be wiped off at any cost.

jbspurs
05-18-2017, 03:09 PM
When I was young, I sprained my ankle on our very first game of the season, it was bad but it only took 4 days to heal. About 3 months ago, sprained it again snowboarding, it wasn't that bad it didn't swell as bad as first time. However, this time it took more than 2 weeks until I can walk back to normal. I guess age slows down healing as well..

LaMarcus Bryant
05-18-2017, 03:12 PM
Yes, it was a different tendon - plus it's Kawhi's left leg, and not the right. Totally invalidates everything I said. Thanks for the correction.

As long as "we" get a nice long career out of Kawhi, permanent damage really isn't an issue. So, yes, aboslutely - the Spurs should rub some dirt on it and send him on the court, no matter what. Stupid, cocky smirks have to be wiped off at any cost.

If he can play he should play. Shelving him to be safe is ridiculous. This is the WCFs.

SanAntonioSpurs23
05-18-2017, 04:17 PM
1-2 years tbh

ElNono
05-18-2017, 04:39 PM
1-2 years tbh

sounds legit, tbh

illusioNtEk
05-18-2017, 04:45 PM
After seeing KL come out the plane yesterday I would have to say he will play. Seems it was a grade 1 sprain which is good... I'm guessing he will be at 80% to 90% come game time. Let's hope KL stays healthy from here on out.

SnakeBoy
05-18-2017, 05:05 PM
This one time I was sitting on my ass for a long time and my right foot fell asleep. I mean completely numb like paralyzed so I didn't notice it. So when I finally stood up I sprained my ankle bad on the first step I took. Hurt like hell but within 72 hours I was able to return to sitting on my ass without any ankle pain at all.

ElNono
05-18-2017, 05:07 PM
This one time I was sitting on my ass for a long time and my right foot fell asleep. I mean completely numb like paralyzed so I didn't notice it. So when I finally stood up I sprained my ankle bad on the first step I took. Hurt like hell but within 72 hours I was able to return to sitting on my ass without any ankle pain at all.

woha... thanks for sharing... and just to be clear, you're not a professional athlete, correct?

DMC
05-18-2017, 09:33 PM
woha... thanks for sharing... and just to be clear, you're not a professional athlete, correct?

Boris Diaw I think.

weebo
05-18-2017, 09:49 PM
He won't be at 100% no way no how no matter what grade. Typically, for a grade 1-2 ankle sprain 5-10 days and that's with round the clock therapy (estim/diathermy/hot/cold packs/massage/joint mobility exercises/etc.)--even at that the joint is still too unstable and any 'tweak' could lead to further injury. If the Spurs win on Saturday w/o KL, I could see him being a game time decision for game 4 but I'd be very surprised to see him suit up --it looked pretty severe. My best guess he gets shut down for the rest of the year.

GSH
05-19-2017, 12:06 AM
If he can play he should play. Shelving him to be safe is ridiculous. This is the WCFs.


WCF's call for a special kind of dirt? Or do you just rub it in differently?

DaBears
05-19-2017, 09:54 AM
He won't be at 100% no way no how no matter what grade. Typically, for a grade 1-2 ankle sprain 5-10 days and that's with round the clock therapy (estim/diathermy/hot/cold packs/massage/joint mobility exercises/etc.)--even at that the joint is still too unstable and any 'tweak' could lead to further injury. If the Spurs win on Saturday w/o KL, I could see him being a game time decision for game 4 but I'd be very surprised to see him suit up --it looked pretty severe. My best guess he gets shut down for the rest of the year.

I disagree with some of what you've stated w/ exception to the 5-10 days of round the clock RICE.. Professional athletes get paid to play, this is a season defining game, if the player is 75% or more he'd plays. I was an athletic most of my life & competed at a reasonably high lvl according to some. Tweaked ankles are common, and we play through them all the time. If this was the regular season he'd be out 3 games probably, but this is not the RG season its the playoff's.. And the likelihood of KL reinjuring his ankle worse is highly unlikely. The fact that the staff doesn't give details should not discourage fans, its more of a keep the info in-house gives opponent less of an edge in game planning.

All this being said i find myself tripping over my own feet and getting tweaks here and there much easier as i have gotten older, price i paying for playing for many years with tweaks.. Ankles never fully heal the same.

weebo
05-19-2017, 10:42 AM
I disagree with some of what you've stated w/ exception to the 5-10 days of round the clock RICE.. Professional athletes get paid to play, this is a season defining game, if the player is 75% or more he'd plays. I was an athletic most of my life & competed at a reasonably high lvl according to some. Tweaked ankles are common, and we play through them all the time. If this was the regular season he'd be out 3 games probably, but this is not the RG season its the playoff's.. And the likelihood of KL reinjuring his ankle worse is highly unlikely. The fact that the staff doesn't give details should not discourage fans, its more of a keep the info in-house gives opponent less of an edge in game planning.

All this being said i find myself tripping over my own feet and getting tweaks here and there much easier as i have gotten older, price i paying for playing for many years with tweaks.. Ankles never fully heal the same.

The Spurs don't play players (no matter who they are) unless Pop feels they're healthy enough to play and aren't at risk for further injury. You can look back at their past history regarding injured players--and yes you can cause further damage to an already unstable joint--you can go from a grade 1 sprain to a grade 3 to possible surgery. I highly doubt Pop would risk KL future on a series that no one expected them to win and are already down 0-2.

DaBears
05-19-2017, 11:00 AM
The Spurs don't play players (no matter who they are) unless Pop feels they're healthy enough to play and aren't at risk for further injury. You can look back at their past history regarding injured players--and yes you can cause further damage to an already unstable joint--you can go from a grade 1 sprain to a grade 3 to possible surgery. I highly doubt Pop would risk KL future on a series that no one expected them to win and are already down 0-2.

No need to be going back and forth.... Only Pop knows whats going to happen.. I just look forward to him playing...

Rummpd
05-19-2017, 06:24 PM
I am a doctor and we just do not have enough information - the fact he is still questionable makes me guess his injury is still painful with probable off and on swelling. Personally would not be surprised if he does not come back this series.

apalisoc_9
05-19-2017, 06:30 PM
I am a doctor and we just do not have enough information - the fact he is still questionable makes me guess his injury is still painful with probable off and on swelling. Personally would not be surprised if he does not come back this series.

He said day yo day like 5 times in his last interview so yeah its probably still painful. Assuming, it's still swelling..can 36 hours even make a difference?