Kyle Anderson leading scorer in an elimination game..

[spursistan]

Damning, sobering and utterly embarrassing for supposed title contender..

I think RC Buford and Pop should take responsibility for this roster..They have to start undoing the crap they have done the past three offseasons.

[HarlemHeat37]

It was a joke game, bro, relax:lol

The veterans are already on vacation, no need to take it back on the road to lose by 40 and be humiliated..

[cjw]

Damning, sobering and utterly embarrassing for supposed title contender..

I think RC Buford and Pop should take responsibility for this roster..They have to start undoing the crap they have done the past three offseasons.

You mean signing Green to a below market deal, winning the LMA sweepstakes (which while it hasn't worked out is a lot better of a deal than guys like Mozgov/Manhimi/other bigs got paid), drafting Murray, signing Simmons from the D League, etc?

They've done a tremendous job staying competitive with an aging core three and let them go out on their own terms. Ask Lakers fans how it could have been otherwise.

Hard to get young studs drafting in the high 20s.

[Chinook]

Kyle had a strong scoring game. Would have been nice as a four with Parker, Green and Kawhi to man the perimeter. Think he acquitted himself pretty well. GS struggled to guard him.

[raybies]

I think Pop may of found his position in the association

[pad300]

Dude kept playing. He's a Spur. His haters better get used to it; he's gonna be around for a while...

[Atl Spur]

Trade high on this dude.........This was a great outcome for the organization. Heart , assertiveness, confidence, competiveness etc....... he just doesn't have! Plenty of teams will drool at his skill set but we need a different type of player moving forward I think.

[SAGirl]

Kyle had a strong scoring game. Would have been nice as a four with Parker, Green and Kawhi to man the perimeter. Think he acquitted himself pretty well. GS struggled to guard him.
What was surprising is that due to Lee and Bertans (who was a promising looking rookie) he barely played at the spot all season. Really almost not at all. Played a lot more SG than 4.

Pop has not really done him justice or put him in spots for himself to be successful. That is the life of a young NBA player... I get it. But he's in a contract year next season. Pop has to figure him out.

Frankly I really do hope Pop trades him bc I always thought he was getting wasted by Pop's rigidity, love for veterans and system. Maybe he increased his trade value and Orlando still wants him?
He needs to play to improve and grow. Still 23 and played more spotty lineups and minutes than JSimms did whose fans are complaining that he didn't get a fair chance.

Actually improved his numbers overall and efficiency from last postseason.
I wanted to see him developed by the Spurs but I mean it takes Pop seeing his 2 big lineups destroyed to play him at his likely ideal spot.

[SAGirl]

Trade high on this dude.........This was a great outcome for the organization. Heart , assertiveness, confidence, competiveness etc....... he just doesn't have! Plenty of teams will drool at his skill set but we need a different type of player moving forward I think.
:lmao

[Keepin' it real]

Kyle leading scorer in elimination game

The future ...

[spursistan]

What was surprising is that due to Lee and Bertans (who was a promising looking rookie) he barely played at the spot all season. Really almost not at all. Played a lot more SG than 4.

Pop has not really done him justice or put him in spots for himself to be successful. That is the life of a young NBA player... I get it. But he's in a contract year next season. Pop has to figure him out.

Frankly I really do hope Pop trades him bc I always thought he was getting wasted by Pop's rigidity, love for veterans and system. Maybe he increased his trade value and Orlando still wants him?
He needs to play to improve and grow. Still 23 and played more spotty lineups and minutes than JSimms did whose fans are complaining that he didn't get a fair chance.

Actually improved his numbers overall and efficiency from last postseason.
I wanted to see him developed by the Spurs but I mean it takes Pop seeing his 2 big lineups destroyed to play him at his likely ideal spot.

Your boy had a solid postseason, tbh :tu..

[SAGirl]

Your boy had a solid postseason, tbh :tu..
:bobo
Competed More than Aldridge.
Aldridge should be ashamed probably

[sasaint]

What was surprising is that due to Lee and Bertans (who was a promising looking rookie) he barely played at the spot all season. Really almost not at all. Played a lot more SG than 4.

Pop has not really done him justice or put him in spots for himself to be successful. That is the life of a young NBA player... I get it. But he's in a contract year next season. Pop has to figure him out.

Frankly I really do hope Pop trades him bc I always thought he was getting wasted by Pop's rigidity, love for veterans and system. Maybe he increased his trade value and Orlando still wants him?
He needs to play to improve and grow. Still 23 and played more spotty lineups and minutes than JSimms did whose fans are complaining that he didn't get a fair chance.

Actually improved his numbers overall and efficiency from last postseason.
I wanted to see him developed by the Spurs but I mean it takes Pop seeing his 2 big lineups destroyed to play him at his likely ideal spot.

I couldn't agree more. I just hate that Pop has completely fumbled the ball with such an intriguing prospect. I doubt he gets moved, though - at least not before the trade deadline.

[Hoops Czar]

You mean signing Green to a below market deal, winning the LMA sweepstakes (which while it hasn't worked out is a lot better of a deal than guys like Mozgov/Manhimi/other bigs got paid), drafting Murray, signing Simmons from the D League, etc?

They've done a tremendous job staying competitive with an aging core three and let them go out on their own terms. Ask Lakers fans how it could have been otherwise.

Hard to get young studs drafting in the high 20s.

Green's been a train wreck since he got that contract and LMA's been exactly who half of us thought he was, Simmons type players are a dime a dozen and Murray isn't quite ready to take the reigns (not until he can actually make something that doesn't consist of off balance floaters) I know it sounds sacrilegious for the Spurs to actually tank a season for the lottery but that would have been more productive than signing a perennial postseason loser to a maximum contract.

[cjw]

Green's been a train wreck since he got that contract and LMA's been exactly who half of us thought he was, Simmons type players are a dime a dozen and Murray isn't quite ready to take the reigns (not until he can actually make something that doesn't consist of off balance floaters) I know it sounds sacrilegious for the Spurs to actually tank a season for the lottery but that would have been more productive than signing a perennial postseason loser to a maximum contract.

We can all dream, can't we? I just don't think the Spurs can lose enough games with Kawhi to get a top draft pick. Probably relegated to pergatory of the 20s for good. It's why I'm fine throwing the keys over to younger guys for next season and developing them and maybe finishing with less than 50 wins and being in the 6-7 seed range. Can still win a playoff series or two assuming no Warriors in the way. And might get a higher pick to boot.

Though knowing this FO they'll waste it on a Euro we'll never see.

On Green, we're being harsh as a $10mm deal gets thrown around to everyone and their mother these days. He's a borderline all NBA defender and a very good three point shooter. He showed flashes of usefulness in other facets these past few series. Would I prefer to find the next Danny Green at the league minimum? Yes. But easier said than done.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

We can all dream, can't we? I just don't think the Spurs can lose enough games with Kawhi to get a top draft pick. Probably relegated to pergatory of the 20s for good. It's why I'm fine throwing the keys over to younger guys for next season and developing them and maybe finishing with less than 50 wins and being in the 6-7 seed range. Can still win a playoff series or two assuming no Warriors in the way. And might get a higher pick to boot.

Though knowing this FO they'll waste it on a Euro we'll never see.
Hell fucking no

[TheGreatYacht]

Trade high on this dude.........This was a great outcome for the organization. Heart , assertiveness, confidence, competiveness etc....... he just doesn't have! Plenty of teams will drool at his skill set but we need a different type of player moving forward I think.

[cjw]

Hell fucking no

You'd rather keep up a streak that while impressive means nothing than possibly draft a bit higher and grab someone Kawhi could use?

Same type of people complain about the Fat Heads of the world when that's the talent available when the Spurs draft.

[SAGirl]

I couldn't agree more. I just hate that Pop has completely fumbled the ball with such an intriguing prospect. I doubt he gets moved, though - at least not before the trade deadline.
I only want him moved if he's going to be in Pop's doghouse and back to 11-13th in the rotation.
It just seems like a waste. Maybe he gets to play in some rotation elsewhere and Spurs get a small asset if he's going to be benched all the same and gone after.

But Pop is unpredictable lately to me. I can't foresee how Manu retiring will hit him and the Spurs so I think they likely keep him. He's a good character guy. Him and Bertans have played very we together too if they both project to get minutes together next season bc they have such different styles and game so I think he can play more. We shall see I guess. Another off-season to put in more work with his basket moves and shooting.

[Ditty]

I hope he is back next year, keeps improving his shot and actually plays decent minutes in the rotation.

He can be a nice role player for us for a while.

[sasaint]

I only want him moved if he's going to be in Pop's doghouse and back to 11-13th in the rotation.
It just seems like a waste. Maybe he gets to play in some rotation elsewhere and Spurs get a small asset if he's going to be benched all the same and gone after.

But Pop is unpredictable lately to me. I can't foresee how Manu retiring will hit him and the Spurs so I think they likely keep him. He's a good character guy. Him and Bertans have played very we together too if they both project to get minutes together next season bc they have such different styles and game so I think he can play more. We shall see I guess. Another off-season to put in more work with his basket moves and shooting.

You and I rooted for him his rookie SL. We have talked about his being a point-4 for probably two seasons now, and Pop has been jerking him around. Maybe he will get a legit shot in pre-season.

[Atl Spur]

Body language can tell you a lot about a person; you just must pay attention. This dude is just happy to be out there.... at some point you got to match your opponents fire! If everyone likes you in sports, you're doing something wrong!

[GSH]

He lulls them to sleep, and then BAM he's at the rim.

Actually, it's more like B....A.....M he's halfway to the basket. But whatever works, right? The tree sloths in every zoo in America are feeling the pride tonight.

[FkLA]

I used to think he had no business seeing the floor but Fathead has won me over. Just needs to shoot 3s all summer.

[Rocalcio]

Happy for him and I hope it means he'll play more next season.

[Robz4000]

Yop, Fathead turned me into a fan the second half of the season. Want him to stick around a few more seasons to see how he grows. He needs a 3-PT shot bad.

[Rocalcio]

He's been more efficient than LMA in this serie, so trade the expensive guy and trust the young cheap one. It might be an experimental season next year with many veterans leaving (Manu ? TP with less playing time at least) and Murray, Simmons and Bertans growing. He should get the same treatment.

[John B]

I think Spurs young talent grew so much in this series and will just continue this summer. And Pops liked what he sees. They competed. I saw Kyle disgusted when he couldn't get the pass underneath the basket posting I think Curry. I think if he becomes more selfish and look for his own shots more, attack mismatches, he can be a very good scorer off the bench.

[TheDoctor]

He's decent at finishing at the rim plus he's an underrated defensive player. I don't know how he does it because he's skow as fuck but he has a knack for picking/deflecting balls outta nowhere.

[rasuo214]

I've said all along that his position is as a small 4. His lack of speed doesn't hurt him as much and he has the length and rebounding ability. He needs to work on his 3rd ball and still needs to bulk up some more if he wants consistent minutes.

[Robz4000]

He's decent at finishing at the rim plus he's an underrated defensive player. I don't know how he does it because he's skow as fuck but he has a knack for picking/deflecting balls outta nowhere.

He's got length for days which makes up for his lack of foot speed. Also helps he has quick hands and a good giant head for the game.

[Hoops Czar]

This thread is going to earn a few bumps next year. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

This thread is going to earn a few bumps next year. :lol
If the intent of the bump is Kyle leading the team in scoring, it will never happen again.

If the intent is to laugh at these fan of the moment posters, then yes :lol

[rasuo214]

Green's been a train wreck since he got that contract and LMA's been exactly who half of us thought he was, Simmons type players are a dime a dozen and Murray isn't quite ready to take the reigns (not until he can actually make something that doesn't consist of off balance floaters) I know it sounds sacrilegious for the Spurs to actually tank a season for the lottery but that would have been more productive than signing a perennial postseason loser to a maximum contract.

Why tank for a lottery pick? It isn't exactly a lock to get a quality player. The Spurs were 1 pick away from potentially getting Gobert. Butler and Isaiah Thomas were available at the Spurs picks, if they didn't trade the 1st to get rid of RJ they could have potentially gotten Draymond or Crowder etc. There's still quality players to find without having to tank. Just look at Manu and Tony as examples. Kawhi is basically our new Timmy, just have to find the right players to surround him with.

[Rocalcio]

He just showed he can play, and he already did earlier. I will never regret what I just wrote on this thread.

[ceperez]

Kyle had a strong scoring game. Would have been nice as a four with Parker, Green and Kawhi to man the perimeter. Think he acquitted himself pretty well. GS struggled to guard him.

He is almost decent except for some of his mental lapses. I though he had a much better chance posting than both Pau and Aldridge. The two were useless posting up. Maybe its the rule change that says you can rough up anyone down low but you can't touch a perimeter player.

[r0drig0lac]

solid all around player

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I saw both Kyle and Murray compete a lot yesterday. They look like fine prospects indeed

[MaNu4Tres]

Sell high.

[RD2191]

He just showed he can play, and he already did earlier. I will never regret what I just wrote on this thread.

Who the fuck is this imposter?

[Rocalcio]

Who the fuck is this imposter?


:lol

[Rocalcio]

I've been around here before you actually, but not very active ;)

[RD2191]

I've been around here before you actually, but not very active ;)

Uh huh. :wakeup

[Blake]

Damning, sobering and utterly embarrassing for supposed title contender..

I think RC Buford and Pop should take responsibility for this roster..They have to start undoing the crap they have done the past three offseasons.

Of course Spur fan is embarrassed after a 60 win, WCF season that ended fast because of injuries.

Of course.

[Rocalcio]

Uh huh. :wakeup

Up to you mate, I won't change my avatar just to please you, especially after being called an imposter.

[raybies]

He's ready for more responsibilities on this team. He made a lot of good plays this postseason in limited minutes and when he got more he produced unlike some players. I think you give him a shot to start as a four next year. I'm tired of this Aldridge don't want to play center crap. I think Kyle as a four would help the ball movement vastly. He could easily put up the same numbers as Draymond if given the minutes. He's too good a rebounder and passer. He's earned a shot at more.

[DarrinS]

He lulls them to sleep, and then BAM he's at the rim.

Actually, it's more like B....A.....M he's halfway to the basket. But whatever works, right? The tree sloths in every zoo in America are feeling the pride tonight.

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol
:lmao

[sananspursfan21]

That big goofy dude isn't so bad. Kinda warranted some respect.

[DaBears]

Kyle had a strong scoring game. Would have been nice as a four with Parker, Green and Kawhi to man the perimeter. Think he acquitted himself pretty well. GS struggled to guard him.

I like all aspects of Kyle Andersons game w/ exception to his broke jumps shot form.. Chip E has his work cut out for him this offseason.

[bklynspursfan]

Of course Spur fan is embarrassed after a 60 win, WCF season that ended fast because of injuries.

Of course.

Seriously! Like wtf was expected when your best player goes out?

[DaBears]

Off topic here, but why didn't Bertans or Dedmon get more action last night, its not like we had a chance...

[Hoops Czar]

Sell high.

[Chinook]

Sell high.

Doesn't make a ton of sense. He's a wing with size. That he couldn't guard Durant isn't that big of a mark against him.

[raybies]

Doesn't make a ton of sense. He's a wing with size. That he couldn't guard Durant isn't that big of a mark against him.
Very few people can, but I thought he did well.

[TheGreatYacht]

Sell high.

[SAGirl]

It's significant he put up his career high in an elimination game.
No 1 bc he competed and didn't fold. One wants guys with competitive spirit who can step up. The pleasant thing with having younger guys in the team is that they can improve and reach other gears bc they are young, hungry, and still developing (him, Simms, and Murray were all pleasant to watch in the postseason).
No. 2 bc he's capable of things like that but he was not really trusted through the season with regular minutes or a role that was suitable for his game. We shall see.

Also, just beyond the scope of this one game, he improved his efficiency accross the board this postseason, over the entirety of his playing time and opportunities, both in comparison to last season and the RS. Like Jsimms, he improved his shooting, scoring, usage, and basically stepped up.
Guys that folded or really undearchieved: Mills, Lamarcus, Pau, and Dedmon bc he fell out of the rotation entirely, after being a RS starter.

[raybies]

It's significant he put up his career high in an elimination game.
No 1 bc he competed and didn't fold. One wants guys with competitive spirit who can step up. The pleasant thing with having younger guys in the team is that they can improve and reach other gears bc they are young, hungry, and still developing (him, Simms, and Murray were all pleasant to watch in the postseason).
No. 2 bc he's capable of things like that but he was not really trusted through the season with regular minutes or a role that was suitable for his game. We shall see.

Also, just beyond the scope of this one game, he improved his efficiency accross the board this postseason, over the entirety of his playing time and opportunities, both in comparison to last season and the RS. Like Jsimms improved his shooting, scoring, usage, and basically stepped up.
Guys that folded or really undearchieved: Mills, Lamarcus, Pau, and Dedmon bc he fell out of the rotation entirely, after being a RS starter.
Green too.

[SAGirl]

Green too.
Yes. I didn't mention Green bc he's been pretty much the same from RS but his shot is extremely unpredictable nowadays. He stepped up in game 5 against the Rockets and had one or two great defensive games against the Grizz. He took the ball to the basket more than I had seen him with actual success but he does remain a low scoring and usage option. Just would have preferred to see his shot back rather than drives from Danny. When Danny lights ppl up it really energizes him and the team.

[rjv]

Kyle had a strong scoring game. Would have been nice as a four with Parker, Green and Kawhi to man the perimeter. Think he acquitted himself pretty well. GS struggled to guard him. i think KA showed that he does have the capacity to be diawesque in that he has some of the elements to diaw's game. he is thick from the torso down and can post up, he can hit the three sometimes, he can rebound, defend and is a great passer. BUT, he only shows glimpses of this game. all too often, he seems hesitant and nervous. i think if he can overcome that aspect and continue to work on his shooting that he can perhaps be a reliable, as opposed to occasional, part of the rotation.

[Chinook]

i think KA showed that he does have the capacity to be diawesque in that he has some of the elements to diaw's game. he is thick from the torso down and can post up, he can hit the three sometimes, he can rebound, defend and is a great passer. BUT, he only shows glimpses of this game. all too often, he seems hesitant and nervous. i think if he can overcome that aspect and continue to work on his shooting that he can perhaps be a reliable, as opposed to occasional, part of the rotation.

I think in that regard, Lee was a poor get. Pop set up this Ded-Lee duo and then didn't use it at all. I REALLY wanted Kyle and Bertans to get run at the forwards. Had we had some time to see if that could work long-term, then maybe keeping Simmons, Anderson and Bertans could be a real plan.

[raybies]

Yes. I didn't mention Green bc he's been pretty much the same from RS but his shot is extremely unpredictable nowadays. He stepped up in game 5 against the Rockets and had one or two great defensive games against the Grizz. He took the ball to the basket more than I had seen him with actual success but he does remain a low scoring and usage option. Just would have preferred to see his shot back rather than drives from Danny. When Danny lights ppl up it really energizes him and the team.
I miss the icy hot days. I guess he wanted to be more consistent... well he is just consistently worse in terms of percentage. Icy Hot Green was exciting and could go off at any time in any game and if he wasn't hitting you just took him out. Pop trying to get his money's worth with paid players has hurt us a lot this year.

[cd021]

If Murray ends up starting, I think it makes perfect since for Anderson to start at PF with LMA at Center his passing and court vision would help take pressure off Murray or Mills and keep Leonard from having to necessarily create almost everything.

Murray/Mills -Green-Leonard-Anderson-Aldridge

I think (and always have) thought that he was better suited playing the 4.

Key is hitting corner 3's and attacking the rim on closeout and forcing the other big to slide over off LMA (making it essentially a 2 on 1 in S.A.'s advantage.

[raybies]

If Murray ends up starting, I think it makes perfect since for Anderson to start at PF with LMA at Center
his passing and court vision would help take pressure off Murray or Mills and keep Leonard from having to necessarily create almost everything.

Murray/Mills -Green-Leonard-Anderson-Aldridge

I think (and always have) thought that he was better suited playing the 4.

Key is hitting corner 3's and attacking the rim on closeout and forcing the other big to slide over off LMA (making it essentially a 2 on 1 in S.A.'s advantage.
Same. Been saying it too. You can trust him to make the right decision with ball in an advantage for the most part. I'd also put him in the post against mismatches as a decision maker like GS does with Draymond and West. Your looking for the pass more than anything but he could abuse a mismatch with that length.

[ernest787]

I think a lot of your are going to be feel different after the playoff hangover ends.

KA is an OK player. He still does not have an elite NBA ability. He is still a tweener. He had 2 good games in the playoffs.

It was nice to see him compete and I'm happy he had a good game, but people talking about extensions and wanting him to start are crazy.

[rjv]

I think in that regard, Lee was a poor get. Pop set up this Ded-Lee duo and then didn't use it at all. I REALLY wanted Kyle and Bertans to get run at the forwards. Had we had some time to see if that could work long-term, then maybe keeping Simmons, Anderson and Bertans could be a real plan. to be fair, i'm not sure if pop saw that the spurs had more of a chance to win the title than he may have thought at the beginning of the season (mainly due to leonard) and then decided to go with a more veteran laden rotation. this may have been the reason why he suddenly stopped using the younger players. and i'm not sure what to make of the fact that he used so many of them last night. was it just to get them the opportunity to play in a meaningful game? was it to see what he might have with this rotation? if so, why did he sit bertans until the 4th? as for lee, his injury may have resolved that riddle for us.

[Rocalcio]

I think a lot of your are going to be feel different after the playoff hangover ends.

KA is an OK player. He still does not have an elite NBA ability. He is still a tweener. He had 2 good games in the playoffs.

It was nice to see him compete and I'm happy he had a good game, but people talking about extensions and wanting him to start are crazy.

Let's have a try and we'll see, we don't have much to loose at the begining of the RS.

[duncan2k5]

I'm more disappointed Pop hasn't played Bertans more...I think he is more versatile and has a much better future than kyle

[look_at_g_shred]

Good shit Kyle. Now, add that 3 to your game in the offseason. Maybe he develops a quicker release.

[SAGirl]

I'm more disappointed Pop hasn't played Bertans more...I think he is more versatile and has a much better future than kyle

You are such a lousy player fan.
You can't appreciate a Spur playing well bc your crew ain't playing.
I like Bertans but you are so whiny.
GTFO:lol

[SpursforSix]

Anderson looks weird.

[raybies]

bertans more versatile than kyle? are you trolling?

[therealtruth]

Pop gave up once Kawhi went down. The hypocrite talking about the team giving up. He was the first one. The team can sense that.

[Big Empty]

Pop gave up once Kawhi went down. The hypocrite talking about the team giving up. He was the first one. The team can sense that. I agree. Im sure Kawhi coulda played in game 3 or 4. Anderson though showed some poise and hope. I think we can turn him into a nice back up 4

[dabom]

Slowmo can be a good back up back up.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Anderson as a starter? :lol

he'll never be more than a Bonner for us - chews up regular season minutes, and not a difference maker in the playoffs due to his lack of foot speed. Not sure why anyone keeps expecting anything more. No matter how much crack you want to smoke, he'll never be a starter in this league and if that's where this team goes during Kawhi's prime, you should start planning for Kawhi to leave at the first possible opportunity.

[SAGirl]

Woooooo
so much hate lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Woooooo
so much hate lol


Because he's not good.

[SAGirl]

Because he's not good.
Subjective...

[dabom]

Subjective...

Trash isn't subjective. :lmao

[SAGirl]

Sure it is subjective. Objectively he played well in this game and was one of the best Spurs in the game, so the hate mongering is subjective...

[TXstbobcat]

Slomo showed more heart and desire during game 4 than our $20 million max player.

[Atl Spur]

Are you guy's kidding me?? Kyle Anderson is a good trade piece at this point in time...... Sell high!!! We need dudes that want to compete vs just be on the court as fans. Take LaMarcus with him hopefully

[Hoops Czar]

Sure it is subjective. Objectively he played well in this game and was one of the best Spurs in the game, so the hate mongering is subjective...


Golden State didn't respect him.They didn't pay much attention to him when he was on the court. They didn't draw up plays to try to stop him. They just didn't care.

[SAGirl]

Golden State didn't respect him.They didn't pay much attention to him when he was on the court. They didn't draw up plays to try to stop him. They just didn't care.
Sure you can make excuses.
He scored on D.Green and was hitting hook shots in the paint. He's 6'9 with a very long wingspan. Unless you are McGee, Draymond and Barnes weren't going to block that. He was smart not to attack Durant though. He was simply more aggressive than he's normally been.

He was efficient against them all-series. He played well off the ball, cutting and even got offensive boards. Dijon got in the paint at will. He was impressive. So you can call it what you want but in a game where no stars were playing, roleplayers stepping up is no cake. you just do yourself a discredit showing your bias.

[Rocalcio]

Are you guy's kidding me?? Kyle Anderson is a good trade piece at this point in time...... Sell high!!! We need dudes that want to compete vs just be on the court as fans. Take LaMarcus with him hopefully


Have a look at his behaviour on the bench and on the floor, he's always the most dedicated player, cheering up teammates, encouraging them. I'm pretty sure Pop can't blame him for his behaviour. He showed several times that he can play, during the regular season and the PO. Just have a look at his numbers during the GS serie. Sorry guys but you'll have to find another scapegoat.

[TheGreatYacht]

Have a look at his behaviour on the bench and on the floor, he's always the most dedicated player, cheering up teammates, encouraging them. I'm pretty sure Pop can't blame him for his behaviour. He showed several times that he can play, during the regular season and the PO. Just have a look at his numbers during the GS serie. Sorry guys but you'll have to find another scapegoat.
Why?!?! RD2191

[Rocalcio]

Why?!?! RD2191 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42690)

Get over it...

[RD2191]

Why?!?! RD2191

Fukin imposter man...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Have a look at his behaviour on the bench and on the floor, he's always the most dedicated player, cheering up teammates, encouraging them. I'm pretty sure Pop can't blame him for his behaviour. He showed several times that he can play, during the regular season and the PO. Just have a look at his numbers during the GS serie. Sorry guys but you'll have to find another scapegoat.

He's Bonner with a tan and better passing capability. Of course he's going to be a great cheerleader. But Boris Diaw reincarnated isn't walking through that door.

[tholdren]

I think in that regard, Lee was a poor get. Pop set up this Ded-Lee duo and then didn't use it at all. I REALLY wanted Kyle and Bertans to get run at the forwards. Had we had some time to see if that could work long-term, then maybe keeping Simmons, Anderson and Bertans could be a real plan.

Awful per usual. Lee at what 3 mil? Was the second best big on the team

[Rocalcio]

Fukin imposter man...

Do you have to use "fuck" in all your posts ? I'm probably sure you're young and never saw Del Negro playing... I've been here long before you, deal with it.

[Rocalcio]

He's Bonner with a tan and better passing capability. Of course he's going to be a great cheerleader. But Boris Diaw reincarnated isn't walking through that door.

You should watch the games mate.

[dabom]

:lol

[spursistan]

Fukin imposter man...
Whose Alt this Rocalcio faggot is? :lol

[RD2191]

Do you have to use "fuck" in all your posts ? I'm probably sure you're young and never saw Del Negro playing... I've been here long before you, deal with it.

You son of a...

[Rocalcio]

Guys, I created my account here 7 years ago, which is older than RDwhatever. I really don't see the point in insulting someone you don't even know. But I guess it's easy when you're hiding behind your screen. Children...

[dabom]

Guys, I created my account here 7 years ago, which is older than RDwhatever. I really don't see the point in insulting someone you don't even know. But I guess it's easy when you're hiding behind your screen. Children...

Is RD2191 the imposter?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif

[Rocalcio]

Is RD2191 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42690) the imposter?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif

Looks like it yep. Anyway, this is not the subject.

[RD2191]

Is RD2191 the imposter?

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/tim-and-eric-mind-blown.gif

:lmao

[rjv]

man, this thread went to crap in just 4 pages.

[dabom]

man, this thread went to crap in just 4 pages.

Sup mod.

[SAGirl]

man, this thread went to crap in just 4 pages.

too many mental midgets...
and a few trolls.

[SAGirl]

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.13652374.1495333096!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_960/image.jpg
Donkey's face... :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JCMMWQ3Gv4

[Snaq O'Meal]

http://cdn.newsday.com/polopoly_fs/1.13652374.1495333096!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/display_960/image.jpg
Donkey's face... :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JCMMWQ3Gv4

Restricting him in a limited role within a "system" is not the best way to fully utilize Kyle's diverse skill set.

[cd021]

Are you guy's kidding me?? Kyle Anderson is a good trade piece at this point in time...... Sell high!!! We need dudes that want to compete vs just be on the court as fans. Take LaMarcus with him hopefully

I fully expect him to have a breakout season next year, hopefully as a starting power forward. I would definitely keep him tbh

[therealtruth]

Playmaking and Ginobili like craftiness. I think you have to unleash him.

[cjw]

I fully expect him to have a breakout season next year, hopefully as a starting power forward. I would definitely keep him tbh

Spurs obviously have a plan for him or else he would have been jettisoned a long time ago. Hope you're right - more minutes of him and Bertans backing up Aldridge at PF.

[cd021]

Spurs obviously have a plan for him or else he would have been jettisoned a long time ago. Hope you're right - more minutes of him and Bertans backing up Aldridge at PF.

I am hoping the plan is that Anderson and Bertans are the PFs (with Leonard occasionally playing small ball 4) while LMA slides up and plays center.


The traditional two big lineup has run it's course, or at least it should have, in San Antonio.

[raybies]

I am hoping the plan is that Anderson and Bertans are the PFs (with Leonard occasionally playing small ball 4) while LMA slides up and plays center.


The traditional two big lineup has run it's course, or at least it should have, in San Antonio.
I think the valid argument is that the two big lineup helps defense during the regular season and that centers eat minutes. My argument is what's the point of having a top defense during the season only to completely have to go away from it in the playoffs against the who's who. I think you worry about teams like the Clippers and Grizzlies but other than that we should be fine. I think it's traditional to have to bigs too but I believe Anderson as the four would be sufficient enough. I would suspect if he put on some more muscle mass he could do fine. There really isn't that many dominant forwards in the league and somehow believe it or not Kyle is a good defender. He has his moments when he just flat out gets beat but for the most part he defends very intelligently and uses his length to get steals and blocks.

On a side note. I don't want to see Bertans anywhere near the starting lineup. He doesn't have the lateral quickness to defend adequately imo. Kyle is much better and even LMA. He shows a lot of effort but I don't trust him on defense. And plus Kyle has put in the time. He's done everything he's been asked and has handled himself very professionally. I think it's his time for a shot. He deserves it.

[Hoops Czar]

I fully expect him to have a breakout season next year, hopefully as a starting power forward. I would definitely keep him tbh

According to SAGirl, he should have had one the last two years.

[cd021]

According to SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524), he should have had one the last two years.

His year to year development reminds a lot of Cojo, he's actually been better than Cojo when comparing the first 3 years of their careers. Year 4 was Cojo's breakout season, I expect the same for Slow-mo.

He played 1,020 minutes in the regular season, come playoffs time:

P.E.R. -21.7
T.S. %-60%
Win Shares Per 100-.187
Net Rtg- +18

He played 1,215 minutes (total) this season; it started out really poorly but I thought played well overall, especially in the playoffs.

SAGirl may have been a year or two off but Anderson's game is definitely coming around.

[SAGirl]

For the breakout, it was disappointing.. but a player can't breakthrough if he's not getting regular minutes in a role that he can do well. He played in a team that stayed big the entire season and which gave minutes to a promising rook in Bertans... The wing rotation was also pretty stacked and he often played SG which is not ideal for him. Considering the circumstances I thought he played well... got better and better as the season went along and less timid offensively. He actually kind of broke out in the postseason, which was much better than his postseason last year. It may have been overshadowed by Jsimms noticeable hot streak and own breakout but as pointed above, he was very efficient.

I recall a game against the Grizz he scored 15 points, 20 inthis one against GSW. That was more than he had a chance to do in the RS. His minutes and role were just really inconsistent. It's really up to Pop at this point to hold him back or set him free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldLoumq7tsE&app=desktop

[SAGirl]

I think the valid argument is that the two big lineup helps defense during the regular season and that centers eat minutes. My argument is what's the point of having a top defense during the season only to completely have to go away from it in the playoffs against the who's who. I think you worry about teams like the Clippers and Grizzlies but other than that we should be fine. I think it's traditional to have to bigs too but I believe Anderson as the four would be sufficient enough. I would suspect if he put on some more muscle mass he could do fine. There really isn't that many dominant forwards in the league and somehow believe it or not Kyle is a good defender. He has his moments when he just flat out gets beat but for the most part he defends very intelligently and uses his length to get steals and blocks.

On a side note. I don't want to see Bertans anywhere near the starting lineup. He doesn't have the lateral quickness to defend adequately imo. Kyle is much better and even LMA. He shows a lot of effort but I don't trust him on defense. And plus Kyle has put in the time. He's done everything he's been asked and has handled himself very professionally. I think it's his time for a shot. He deserves it.
Agree.

[therealtruth]

You first need guys who are going to compete. If not it's useless come playoff time.

[cd98]

If he had a three point shot, he would be a legit good NBA player.

[spurs10]

If he had a three point shot, he would be a legit good NBA player. Hopefully in the gym with Chip and Dejounte as we speak. They both are being given a chance of a lifetime.

[picnroll]

Anderson has developed into a rotation player and a solid small ball PF. Be nice if he could ever develop a reliable 3 though.

[John B]

Ready to take LMA place. Let's go Kyle!

[John B]

Seriously he needs to work-out with Diaw (if he ever works out). He's too good a passer. Need to develop upper body. He could be a crafty player inside

[tholdren]

Hes too much of a pussy for donkey and co. Spurs need a mean dude

[Atl Spur]

Kyle has skills. What Kyle lacks is assertiveness and desire. Those two attributes can trump talent in most cases. Vince Carter basically just went at him because of the lack of respect and did nothing of the sort to Kawhi the whole series. Real competitors recognize each other and respect each other while in most cases not liking each other! It just isn't in him..... He is seems to be just happy being out their vs competing and imposing his will. The skill is there.....just no HEART.

[SAGirl]

Kyle has skills. What Kyle lacks is assertiveness and desire. Those two attributes can trump talent in most cases. Vince Carter basically just went at him because of the lack of respect and did nothing of the sort to Kawhi the whole series. Real competitors recognize each other and respect each other while in most cases not liking each other! It just isn't in him..... He is seems to be just happy being out their vs competing and imposing his will. The skill is there.....just no HEART.
Rofl
Leading scorer in an elimination game tells you no heart? Wow you are trolling.
He's too much of a passer, and too unselfish, but his role is not generally to be scoring. He can score more and do more but that's role and Pop....

[tholdren]

Rofl
Leading scorer in an elimination game tells you no heart? Wow you are trolling.
He's too much of a passer, and too unselfish, but his role is not generally to be scoring. He can score more and do more but that's role and Pop....

Rofl using scoring as evidence of heart? See any warriors, cavs, mcgrady.... list goes on. Ban sa tranny

[Chinook]

Vince Carter went after Kyle because he thought starting a fight with a younger player would give his team a morale boost. That Kyle pretty much walked away showed great maturity. I can't imagine how anyone can really look at that situation and just think Carter seemed like a fool.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Kyle has skills. What Kyle lacks is assertiveness and desire. Those two attributes can trump talent in most cases. Vince Carter basically just went at him because of the lack of respect and did nothing of the sort to Kawhi the whole series. Real competitors recognize each other and respect each other while in most cases not liking each other! It just isn't in him..... He is seems to be just happy being out their vs competing and imposing his will. The skill is there.....just no HEART.

Kyle went to the hole hard and scored on Donkey Green. Did the Spurs' highest paid player even show half as much heart?

[dabom]

Dude is a scrub when it matters. :lmao

[tholdren]

Vince Carter went after Kyle because he thought starting a fight with a younger player would give his team a morale boost. That Kyle pretty much walked away showed great maturity. I can't imagine how anyone can really look at that situation and just think Carter seemed like a fool.

On the flip side, had any spurs had the juevos or drive that carter did, the spurs would have looked like they gave up, which they did, after kl left game one. No heart.

[cd021]

Hopefully in the gym with Chip and Dejounte as we speak.


If he had a three point shot, he would be a legit good NBA player.

Anderson shot 37.5% (15-40) from 3, he shot 12-29 from the corners (41.4%) last season

He is 28-66 for his career from the corners during the RS 42% 3PT

If he were to start at PF he would need to, at the very least, double his 3pt attempts per game from .6 to 1.2 and probably stick to the corner (the right corner specifically). Teams are going to leave him open, him knocking corner 3's at a similar clip as he's done is key to him maximizing his effectiveness on offense.

[raybies]

Anderson shot 37.5% (15-40) from 3, he shot 12-29 from the corners (41.4%) last season

He is 28-66 for his career from the corners during the RS 42% 3PT

If he were to start at PF he would need to, at the very least, double his 3pt attempts per game from .6 to 1.2 and probably stick to the corner (the right corner specifically). Teams are going to leave him open, him knocking corner 3's at a similar clip as he's done is key to him maximizing his effectiveness on offense.
that atually might be better than Danny over the same time right?

[duncan2k5]

I think a lot of your are going to be feel different after the playoff hangover ends.

KA is an OK player. He still does not have an elite NBA ability. He is still a tweener. He had 2 good games in the playoffs.

It was nice to see him compete and I'm happy he had a good game, but people talking about extensions and wanting him to start are crazy.

This!! KA is trash! His passing is overrated, and his hesitation on offense always breaks the good flow we have...He isn't an NBA player...Let's stop forcing it...Bertans deserves the SF/PF spot more than Kyle...Kyle has way too many defensive lapses, and he gets blown by a lot more than any SF should...Now and then he gets a reach around steal, but that doesnt make up for everything else

[Atl Spur]

Vince Carter went after Kyle because he thought starting a fight with a younger player would give his team a morale boost. That Kyle pretty much walked away showed great maturity. I can't imagine how anyone can really look at that situation and just think Carter seemed like a fool.

Why not Simmons or anyone else? I am not here to pass judgement on what you do or don't know about sports, but I will tell you per my experiences the weak is always targeted first. I like the kid but he is really gonna have a tough time if he don't get it in his mind these are grown men during grown men things on the court.

[cd021]

that atually might be better than Danny over the same time right?

Green's hit 37.6% but at a significantly higher volume sine KA has been a spur.

[buujness]

This!! KA is trash! His passing is overrated, and his hesitation on offense always breaks the good flow we have...He isn't an NBA player...Let's stop forcing it...Bertans deserves the SF/PF spot more than Kyle...Kyle has way too many defensive lapses, and he gets blown by a lot more than any SF should...Now and then he gets a reach around steal, but that doesnt make up for everything else
If you think that Bertans has more potential than KA, then that's one thing, but trying to argue that Bertans is better than KA defensively is just factually untrue. KA has actually been one of the best Spurs defensively both in the regular season and the playoffs. His Value Over Replacement Player (VORP) was actually second only to Kawhi in the playoffs.

KA actually doesn't get nearly the credit he deserves for remaking his defensive game to the point where he's become an asset on that end of the court, especially since he came into the NBA nigh unplayable there. Davis needs to do the same.

[Brazil]

tbh he has been quite ok during those POs... good for him

[SAGirl]

tbh he has been quite ok during those POs... good for him
:toast. :tu

[Atl Spur]

tbh he has been quite ok during those POs... good for him

We need him to be better than OK periodically........

[Brazil]

:toast. :tu

:tu

[Brazil]

We need him to be better than OK periodically........

He played much better in POs than RS, he provided good minutes to the team despite a very erratic usage. As everybody know I'm not a fan of Kyle, one of the main thing I did not like about him is to be only good in certain situation, consistent playing time and position played. Well this time he had been impactful on almost every situation: 5 mn, 18 mn, 30 sec or position played... so yeah I'm happy for him, that's how he will make his niche with the Spurs and in the NBA by being ready and contribute whatever the context. I cannot be mad with a player trying and this time he tried.