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TD 21
05-23-2017, 06:33 PM
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19446807/gregg-popovich-says-team-deserves-credit-accomplishments-season

No details provided. Don't know if he presumes he'll get offers well in excess of the MLE, doesn't think they'd offer him that or he wants to leave.

As an aside, most interesting Pop quote today, when asked about whether they have to tailor their team specifically for Warriors: "It's more the way the game is being played these days. You know, people have to be pretty versatile: be able to pass, dribble, shoot. Uh, you know, people that are not threats offensively have a hard time gettin' on the court. So, you have to be able to guard those kinds of people and you have to have that type of person."

All well and good, but Spurs' defensive rating in playoffs was 109.5, a full 8.6 worse than their league leading regular season average and a number that would have ranked 28th during the regular season. It was also 12th among playoff teams and worst among teams that went past the 1st round.

Playing the 1st and 3rd ranked regular season offenses didn't help and neither did Leonard missing about 4 and 1/2 games obviously, but they were struggling with him. The biggest difference was Dedmon's deletion from the rotation from game 4 of the Grizzlies series on. If he's going to be lost, then they need to think long and hard at picking a similar type at 29 (some are expected to fall in that range) and pursuing Reed, a projected cheaper alternative, in free agency.

TheGreatYacht
05-23-2017, 06:36 PM
Pop is right. Most unskilled defensive specialists (McGee, Capela, Jordan, Gobert, Thompson, etc) at least know where to be on the court offensively to get easy baskets. That's not the case with Deadman. I mean, the guy can't even set a proper screen.

Spurs have bigger fishes to fry, and there's tons of Deadmans in the D League. Make a run at McGee.

bic50
05-23-2017, 06:37 PM
Don't blame him. Pop seemed to dislike him for whatever reason

Play Boban
05-23-2017, 06:38 PM
Good.

Spur|n|Austin
05-23-2017, 06:39 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/qEBlgZpZWHihO/giphy.gif

Also, RIP Powers Booth.

raybies
05-23-2017, 06:42 PM
Jonah Bolden period look him up

objective schooled me up on this kid. Very versatile and can play the 3-5. Pop may be done with "finishing bigs"

apalisoc_9
05-23-2017, 06:43 PM
Most likely PATFO knew this way before the playoffs hence the reduced playing time and terrible treatment.

Nathan89
05-23-2017, 06:44 PM
Bring back Baynes and Tiago tbh

raybies
05-23-2017, 06:46 PM
rather give Baynes the money than Dedmon

clambake
05-23-2017, 06:49 PM
title shoulda been "dedmon walking"

TheDoctor
05-23-2017, 06:52 PM
Sorry hater, we all know how much you wanted to get drunk w/ him.

I hope he gets drunk with Gasoft instead and takes him on the way out.

MaNu4Tres
05-23-2017, 06:52 PM
Meh, he had an opportunity to really blossom and secure his spot on the Spurs but he blew his load when he got the opportunity. The last two months, when he got the starting job, his confidence began to waver and his play declined.

I don't see him being the starting 5 moving forward anyway. I've come to a realization, LA will probably be here another year because the window to trade him for decent value was shut this past year. I'd demand LA to lose weight and get in tip top shape and to start working on his rolls in PnRs.

I hope Spurs transition to a 1-C, 3 wing, 1 PG philosophy w/ LA starting at the 5.

mudyez
05-23-2017, 06:54 PM
title shoulda been "dedmon walking"

:lol

TXstbobcat
05-23-2017, 06:57 PM
Multinov will probably take his roster spot next season.

raybies
05-23-2017, 06:57 PM
Meh, he had an opportunity to really blossom and secure his spot on the Spurs but he blew his load when he got the opportunity. The last two months, when he got the starting job, his confidence began to waver and his play declined.

I don't see him being the starting 5 moving forward anyway. I've come to a realization, LA will probably be here another year because the window to trade him for decent value was shut this past year. I'd demand LA to lose weight and get in tip top shape and to start working on his rolls in PnRs.

I hope Spurs transition to a 1-C, 3 wing, 1 PG philosophy w/ LA starting at the 5.
Need to add the special bonuses for weight like they did with BoBo.

And I'm on the same page as far as lineup goes. Whats the point of having great defense in the season and then losing it in the playoffs. I'd just like to see more versatility which is why I've been advocating for Kyle to get his chance at the four. You have Murray, Green, Leonard, and Kyle on the wing with that length and that's gonna be sufficient d which is sustainable in the playoffs.

TheGreatYacht
05-23-2017, 06:57 PM
Meh, he had an opportunity to really blossom and secure his spot on the Spurs but he blew his load when he got the opportunity. The last two months, when he got the starting job, his confidence began to waver and his play declined.

I don't see him being the starting 5 moving forward anyway. I've come to a realization, LA will probably be here another year because the window to trade him for decent value was shut this past year. I'd demand LA to lose weight and get in tip top shape and to start working on his rolls in PnRs.

I hope Spurs transition to a 1-C, 3 wing, 1 PG philosophy w/ LA starting at the 5.

Spur|n|Austin
05-23-2017, 06:58 PM
It'd be nice to see the Golden God back here again.

SAGirl
05-23-2017, 07:01 PM
Unsurprising.
sasaint (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12242) mentioned it since Dedmon's demotion wasn't just to the back of the bench but to the very end of it.
Maybe Milutinov jumps in his spot... specially if Spurs retain both Pau and Lamarcus and make commitments to play Bertans and Anderson more (the two big lineups weren't a winning combo even with MVP Kawhi in the team. So it just doesn't leave enough minutes available for Dedmon. I think Milutinov can be third center.
It's intriguing. I think Dedmon showed different things (he flashed a jumpshot) and had room for improvement but he's not a youngster anymore and being banished to the back of the bench didn't do him favors so I would think he will look around. The other thing is that it might just be due to them being stuck with Gasol at this point.

TXstbobcat
05-23-2017, 07:04 PM
It'd be nice to see the Golden God back here again.

You miss Splitter sitting on the bench in street clothes injured half the time??

duncan2k5
05-23-2017, 08:07 PM
i think Pop just hated Dedmon...if Dedmon played with the lack of heart and terrible defensive decisions and rotatons Pau had, he would have been pulled QUICK...but Pop was stubburn and kept Pau out there despite all the mistakes...despite the fact that we were a better team with dedmon starting in the regular season...we instantly became the best defensive team in the league after a horrible defensive start to the year with pau startng

tholdren
05-23-2017, 08:38 PM
Pop is right. Most unskilled defensive specialists (McGee, Capela, Jordan, Gobert, Thompson, etc) at least know where to be on the court offensively to get easy baskets. That's not the case with Deadman. I mean, the guy can't even set a proper screen.

Spurs have bigger fishes to fry, and there's tons of Deadmans in the D League. Make a run at McGee.

Dude get real. The only people who connected with screens were lee and dedmon. After the first playoff game it was evident pau and lamarsha were the rodger dorns or the spurs. Also why the beautiful game died. These tall fucks are too stupid to know that the screener is open after the screen just as much as the man youre screening for. Shit coaching as well. You knew you had to get the assist and transition points to win the series, so what do you do? Put in guys who cant get fast break points or get people open. Grade school basketball 101. But glad there is a woman on staff and planets are in orbit.

BackHome
05-23-2017, 09:07 PM
Man both Gasol and LMA have zero summer work out routines this past year. Both there asses need to be in the gym and better come in tip top shape of if I was Pop I would run there ass to the ground day one of training.

hater
05-23-2017, 09:31 PM
Sorry hater, we all know how much you wanted to get drunk w/ him.

I hope he gets drunk with Gasoft instead and takes him on the way out.


:lol

hater
05-23-2017, 09:32 PM
Man both Gasol and LMA have zero summer work out routines this past year. Both there asses need to be in the gym and better come in tip top shape of if I was Pop I would run there ass to the ground day one of training.

They need to be taken to the shed and put out of their misery add manu to them 2

We get rid of those 3 dead weights and we
Might be an nba team

Spur|n|Austin
05-23-2017, 10:50 PM
You miss Splitter sitting on the bench in street clothes injured half the time??

The beautiful game :cry

BillMc
05-23-2017, 11:08 PM
title shoulda been "dedmon walking"
:lol

John B
05-23-2017, 11:57 PM
No need to read too much to it. The guy played better than last year. He wants to get paid. Other teams like former Spurs to rub to their other players. I can see Stan Van Gundy now salivating :lol

GSH
05-24-2017, 12:45 AM
Joel Anthony has $23 Million in career NBA earnings. Twenty. Three. Million. Fucking. Dollars.

DeWayhe Dedmon wants to have $23 Million in career earnings, and this is his shot. Probably his only shot. I don't blame him one bit, if he can get it.

A lot of NBA centers - maybe most - take several years to develop. Dedmon is right at that cut-off point. If he's going to step up, it will be this next season. He's been around long enough, but hasn't gotten minutes. This year he got minutes, and was pretty much borderline. The Spurs could have invested in his future several years ago. I don't see how they can afford to now. If someone jumps up with a big contract, the Spurs have to pass.

Uriel
05-24-2017, 12:51 AM
I heard Dedmon had a falling out with Pop and the others, which led to his benching in the playoffs.

GSH
05-24-2017, 12:56 AM
I heard Dedmon had a falling out with Pop and the others, which led to his benching in the playoffs.

That came straight from Pop, and you know how he lies.

Uriel
05-24-2017, 12:59 AM
That came straight from Pop, and you know how he lies.
Really? Pop said that?

GSH
05-24-2017, 01:02 AM
Really? Pop said that?


No, totally joking. I started to ask where you heard it, saw it was you, and decided not to bust your balls over it.

I could see it happening, considering how the playoffs played out. Doesn't mean it's true, but I could see it.

sammy
05-24-2017, 09:39 AM
They need to be taken to the shed and put out of their misery add manu to them 2

We get rid of those 3 dead weights and we
Might be an nba team

WTF! Dude you are moron to add Manu to that mix of dead weights! Manu played way better than those two dead weights!

coachmac87
05-24-2017, 09:48 AM
Dedmon would really benefit if he played with CP3..

Seventyniner
05-24-2017, 09:50 AM
No, totally joking. I started to ask where you heard it, saw it was you, and decided not to bust your balls over it.

I could see it happening, considering how the playoffs played out. Doesn't mean it's true, but I could see it.

You mean he might have pulled a Stephen Jackson and Pop didn't think it was worth the trouble of immediately cutting him?

Dedmon has all the tools on paper but yeah, the Spurs can't afford to overpay for someone that inconsistent.

ducks
05-24-2017, 10:07 AM
Dedmon would really benefit if he played with CP3..

murray and him could develop chemistry
murray and lma could develop chemistry also

tp helped lma when he was on court. rarely was murray and lma on court same time

coachmac87
05-24-2017, 10:24 AM
murray and him could develop chemistry
murray and lma could develop chemistry also

tp helped lma when he was on court. rarely was murray and lma on court same time


There isn't a better point guard in the league setting up athletic bigs then CP3..

Chandler and Jordan both have made tons of $$ because of Paul..

Chinook
05-24-2017, 10:26 AM
There isn't a better point guard in the league setting up athletic bigs then CP3..

Chandler and Jordan both have made tons of $$ because of Paul..

Chandler got his huge contract because he led Dallas to a title defensively. While he and Paul made a good tandum, Tyson was a DPoY and champion without Paul

DaBears
05-24-2017, 11:05 AM
Don't blame him. Pop seemed to dislike him for whatever reason

I am good with bringing back boban.. he signed a big deal w/ Detroit and rarely got playin time.

MarCowMar
05-24-2017, 11:22 AM
It's surprising to me the Spurs couldn't find an offensive role for Dedmon. His shot is solid for a big man. He can take the alley oop if someone can throw it. He has no shortage of aggression so I'm not sure why they couldn't train him to set good screens. Maybe he just fouls too much and is too sloppy? Seems like the raw skills are there.

UZER
05-24-2017, 11:25 AM
It's surprising to me the Spurs couldn't find an offensive role for Dedmon. His shot is solid for a big man. He can take the alley oop if someone can throw it. He has no shortage of aggression so I'm not sure why they couldn't train him to set good screens. Maybe he just fouls too much and is too sloppy? Seems like the raw skills are there.

Here's why:

1) he's too "black" for Pop

2) he voted for Trump

Jdspur20
05-24-2017, 11:44 AM
Fine with me, rather have Splitter for the Vet Min.

tmtcsc
05-24-2017, 11:48 AM
I am good with bringing back boban.. he signed a big deal w/ Detroit and rarely got playin time.

Why do you think that was?

tmtcsc
05-24-2017, 11:52 AM
Fine with me, rather have Splitter for the Vet Min.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/CXAPW8vCQzYkg/giphy.gif?response_id=5925b99ad935d196cd8513cf

coachmac87
05-24-2017, 12:00 PM
Chandler got his huge contract because he led Dallas to a title defensively. While he and Paul made a good tandum, Tyson was a DPoY and champion without Paul

Nah dude. Paul made him relevant again in New Orleans...he was considered a bust in Chicago until Paul changed his career..

TheDoctor
05-24-2017, 12:17 PM
https://media0.giphy.com/media/CXAPW8vCQzYkg/giphy.gif?response_id=5925b99ad935d196cd8513cf
:lol

CGD
05-24-2017, 12:21 PM
Hope he gets his payday even if with someone else.

Horse
05-24-2017, 12:29 PM
I understand the league has changed but it's not like capella was scoring threat and he did fine with Houston.

wildbill2u
05-24-2017, 02:11 PM
That came straight from Pop, and you know how he lies.

Where did that info come from. I suspected something like that when he was virtually shut out of minutes, even when we needed some mobile big defender.

cd021
05-24-2017, 03:03 PM
Multinov will probably take his roster spot next season.

Good. Looking forward to seeing what we have with him.

Hopefully the Spurs draft another big this year too; Parsecnicks or Adebayo in particular.

Chinook
05-24-2017, 03:12 PM
Nah dude. Paul made him relevant again in New Orleans...he was considered a bust in Chicago until Paul changed his career..

And he went back to be "worthless" in Charlotte. But he came back with Dallas.

cd021
05-24-2017, 03:16 PM
Fine with me, rather have Splitter for the Vet Min.

I would like to have Splitter back and see if he can stay healthy and contribute in a minimized role off the bench.

Then again (last two seasons):
Nene- 124 Games played
Splitter-42 Games played

Nene is about as injury prone as a big gets and Splitter only appeared in less than half of his teams games since he was traded away

Russ
05-24-2017, 03:24 PM
Here's why:

1) he's too "black" for Pop

2) he voted for Trump

Trying to wrap my head around that one.

TheGreatYacht
05-24-2017, 03:27 PM
he voted for Trump
Deadman did always seem like a low IQ idiot tbh :lol

apalisoc_9
05-24-2017, 03:34 PM
Dedman clearly had a falling out with Pop and I don't think Pop particularly like Dwayne's attitude.

He had decent chemistry with Lee and a Couple of other guys but Kawhi clearly did not like playing with him. there's must have been like 10 plus occasions they were in a screaming match after a missed defensive assignment.

Don't think it bodes well for role players to be having screaming matches with the best player, specially in Pop's culture.

Pop has always prioritized his best (favorite) players and their "comfort" level...

even if the media tries to push this silly narrative that he treats everyone the same.

dabom
05-24-2017, 03:35 PM
Dedman clearly had a falling out with Pop and I don't think Pop particularly like Dwayne's attitude.

He had decent chemistry with Lee and a Couple of other guys but Kawhi clearly did not like playing with him. there's must have been like 10 plus occasions they were in a screaming match after a missed defensive assignment.

Don't think it bodes well for role players to be having screaming matches with the best player, specially in Pop's culture.

Pop has always prioritized his best (favorite) players and their "comfort" level...

even if the media tries to push this silly narrative that he treats everyone the same.

I don't remember watching that. Let alone 10 times?

duncan2k5
05-24-2017, 03:38 PM
If I was a good defensive big man that had to eat the bench while Gasol and Lee gets passes for simple defensive mistakes, I'd have an attitude too

apalisoc_9
05-24-2017, 03:39 PM
I don't remember watching that. Let alone 10 times?

yup..

Happens all the time. Kawhi and Dedman don't particularly play well together in offense either.

Maybe 10 times is an exaggeration, but they def had screaming matches in the Court. Only other guy I can think of in the last three years that actually had the audacity to scream at Kawhi is Tim Duncan..but most of those are warrantied..Like in one RS game, TD was pissed at Kawhi for not "talking"

he said " Then fing talk".

I think it was clear with players since Pop"s Franchise player proclamation in 2012 that it might not bode well for their future with team if they're bickering all the time with kawhi.

I don't think even tony dared. He'd just shot the next 10 straight possessions.

Aggie Hoopsfan
05-24-2017, 03:39 PM
Fine with me, rather have Splitter for the Vet Min.

Yeah, let's spend our money on a guy who can't make it through a season out of some idiotic sense of nostalgia.

Trainwreck2100
05-24-2017, 03:39 PM
Definitely going to detroit

TheGreatYacht
05-24-2017, 03:41 PM
The D-League has plenty of guys that can average 5ppg, 6rpg, and less than a block per game. That's exactly what Deadman averaged as a starter. Can't say he didn't get a fair shot.

dabom
05-24-2017, 03:43 PM
yup..

Happens all the time. Kawhi and Dedman don't particularly play well together in offense either.

Maybe 10 times is an exaggeration, but they def had screaming matches in the Court. Only other guy I can think of in the last three years that actually had the audacity to scream at Kawhi is Tim Duncan..but most of those are warrantied..Like in one RS game, TD was pissed at Kawhi for not "talking"

he said " Then fing talk".

I think it was clear with players since Pop"s Franchise player proclamation in 2012 that it might not bode well for their future with team if they're bickering all the time with kawhi.

I don't think even tony dared. He'd just shot the next 10 straight possessions.

You can't really shout at Kawhi though. There is a hierarchy, in anything.

GSH
05-24-2017, 03:50 PM
Where did that info come from. I suspected something like that when he was virtually shut out of minutes, even when we needed some mobile big defender.


I don't have any information. Nada. I was just joking around about it. I think Dedmon would have liked more minutes in the playoffs, but so would most guys who are trying to land a new contract.

coachmac87
05-24-2017, 04:39 PM
And he went back to be "worthless" in Charlotte. But he came back with Dallas.

Neither of us is wrong in what we said lol

elemento
05-24-2017, 04:49 PM
Pop hates him so it's not a surprise.

At this point and with his age, Dedmon should look for a team where he could average 3 bpg and cash in a huge contract from a shit team, much like what Ian and Bismack did.

Jdspur20
05-24-2017, 05:13 PM
Yeah, let's spend our money on a guy who can't make it through a season out of some idiotic sense of nostalgia.

the point is even an injury prone Splitter would be just as good as a 4th big seeing what Dedmon did. He was worthless.
Better options out there. Not sayin Splitter is the answer.

TD 21
05-24-2017, 05:23 PM
I don't want to make it sound as if he's indispensable, but I'm seeing a lot of prisoner of the moment takes in this thread. A few months ago many of you were raving about him. Now, because the starting lineup struggled offensively down the stretch (with a broken Parker, Aldridge and Green), he's all of a sudden irrelevant?

On a team where the two primary bigs are Aldridge and Gasol, they desperately need an athletic, tough, glass cleaning, rim rolling/protecting type and they don't grow on trees and rarely come cheap.

They can't afford to lose their elite defense, considering they have no immediate path back to being an explosive offensive team.

Jdspur20
05-24-2017, 05:27 PM
I don't want to make it sound as if he's indispensable, but I'm seeing a lot of prisoner of the moment takes in this thread. A few months ago many of you were raving about him. Now, because the starting lineup struggled offensively down the stretch (with a broken Parker, Aldridge and Green), he's all of a sudden irrelevant?

On a team where the two primary bigs are Aldridge and Gasol, they desperately need an athletic, tough, glass cleaning, rim rolling/protecting type and they don't grow on trees and rarely come cheap.

They can't afford to lose their elite defense, considering they have no immediate path back to being an explosive offensive team.

I don't think anyone here is claiming he's irrelevant. He's just a extreme liability on the offensive end.

MultiTroll
05-24-2017, 05:38 PM
Wasn't earlier in the year Demans stats on the 5 man when included with Kwa the most efficient offense of any 5 man set?

As to his only averaging 6 points, please.
Context is he was supposed to feed the ball to Sacred Cow Aldridge or otherwise.
.622 field goal percentage so STFU bashers.

TD 21
05-24-2017, 05:44 PM
I don't think anyone here is claiming he's irrelevant. He's just a extreme liability on the offensive end.

As I was alluding to, context is everything. Most of those types of centers are helpful offensively because of their gravity, but they're reliant on someone adept at creating for others and an uncluttered lane.

If Dedmon and McGee switched teams, Dedmon would look the same as McGee does on the Warriors and McGee would look the same as Dedmon does on the Spurs.

sasaint
05-24-2017, 05:44 PM
I don't want to make it sound as if he's indispensable, but I'm seeing a lot of prisoner of the moment takes in this thread. A few months ago many of you were raving about him. Now, because the starting lineup struggled offensively down the stretch (with a broken Parker, Aldridge and Green), he's all of a sudden irrelevant?

On a team where the two primary bigs are Aldridge and Gasol, they desperately need an athletic, tough, glass cleaning, rim rolling/protecting type and they don't grow on trees and rarely come cheap.

They can't afford to lose their elite defense, considering they have no immediate path back to being an explosive offensive team.

I like Deadman, and I had hoped to keep him and let Timmy coach him up. But that was probably never going to happen. As I recall, he was less than enamored with San Antonio and its amenities. So he was probably off to a more suitable address almost regardless of what Pop thought of him.

tholdren
05-24-2017, 05:45 PM
I don't think anyone here is claiming he's irrelevant. He's just a extreme liability on the offensive end.

Dumb. Hes not a bigger liability than lma or especially gasol. GaSOL SCORED FOR THE OTHER TEAM

r0drig0lac
05-24-2017, 05:46 PM
If Dedmon and McGee switched teams, Dedmon would look the same as McGee does on the Warriors and McGee would look the same as Dedmon does on the Spurs.

word

MultiTroll
05-24-2017, 05:47 PM
If Dedmon and McGee switched teams, Dedmon would look the same as McGee does on the Warriors and McGee would look the same as Dedmon does on the Spurs.
:clap
This.
Can't imagine what the difference is. :pop:

:lol Numerous portion of SpursTalk Spurfan wanting to run a guy who comes over and does as he does plus shows some nutts for 3 million a year.

dabom
05-24-2017, 05:51 PM
I think we keep dedman.

Uriel
05-24-2017, 08:57 PM
Not sure how reliable this is. But sharing for what it's worth.


[Dedmon] had a falling out with Pop due to multiple altercations with players (like with Nene back in game 1 vs Houston and Gasol in game 3 with Memphis) and altercations with the staff and his teammates. I can't say that's the only reason for it, but that's why he's been benched

Source is a Facebook page called San Antonio Spurs Talk.

CGD
05-24-2017, 09:07 PM
Spurs should be calling about willie reed. Has a 1m PO with Heat which he'll surely decline. Will be cheaper than Dedmon.

RD2191
05-24-2017, 09:08 PM
Not sure how reliable this is. But sharing for what it's worth.



Source is a Facebook page called San Antonio Spurs Talk.

Aka pop is a soft faggot.

apalisoc_9
05-24-2017, 09:12 PM
Not sure how reliable this is. But sharing for what it's worth.



Source is a Facebook page called San Antonio Spurs Talk.

Makes sense...

MultiTroll
05-24-2017, 09:16 PM
Not sure how reliable this is. But sharing for what it's worth.



Source is a Facebook page called San Antonio Spurs Talk.
By Random Commentor in comments section or post by SAST?

TheDoctor
05-24-2017, 09:40 PM
Not sure how reliable this is. But sharing for what it's worth.


[Dedmon] had a falling out with Pop due to multiple altercations with players (like with Nene back in game 1 vs Houston and Gasol in game 3 with Memphis) and altercations with the staff and his teammates. I can't say that's the only reason for it, but that's why he's been benched

Source is a Facebook page called San Antonio Spurs Talk.


I heard Dedmon had a falling out with Pop and the others, which led to his benching in the playoffs.

So you wrote it? Say it isn't so homie :lol

Pauleta14
05-24-2017, 10:02 PM
good for him!

Too limited for the Spurs (IQ, technique...) anyway...

urunobili
05-24-2017, 10:50 PM
Don't blame him. Pop seemed to dislike him for character reasons

FIFY

therealtruth
05-24-2017, 10:58 PM
Too bad. Could have used his toughness. Too many marshmallow players is why they got swept.

GSH
05-25-2017, 12:19 AM
I don't know if it's true, but based on Pop's reaction to Bertans getting in that one little scuffle, it sure as hell could be. Bertans had been putting in some good minutes, and he just got disappeared after that. The funny thing is that it was Dedmon that was in the wrestling match, and Bertans came over to show that he had Dedmon's back. There's no doubt that Bertans wound up in Pop's shithouse over that incident. (Worse than the doghouse.) It makes sense that he would treat Dedmon the same way.

I don't always agree with all the Pop criticism. But you can't talk about your team being soft, and turn around and punish the ones that won't let themselves be pushed around. Not to that extent. When it happened I thought it was about time someone on the team showed some heart. And if Pop is saying that getting tossed from one game hurt the team, then what did holding him out of a whole bunch of games do to the team?

If that's really the issue, Dedmon should be looking for someplace else to play.

jbspurs
05-25-2017, 01:02 AM
If we endup signing CP3 this off season, then we should keep Dedmon. Cp3 will spoon feed this guy and he will be a lot better.

Uriel
05-25-2017, 01:08 AM
By Random Commentor in comments section or post by SAST?
By page admin in the comments section.

J_Paco
05-25-2017, 04:00 AM
The D-League has plenty of guys that can average 5ppg, 6rpg, and less than a block per game. That's exactly what Deadman averaged as a starter. Can't say he didn't get a fair shot.

Okay, but he was one of the best rim protectors in the NBA (too lazy to look up the stat) and the overall team defense went to shit in postseason without him.

And to make matter worse he was benched for the corpse of Pau Gasol and an immobile LaMarcus Aldridge. The team defense is going to hit a major, major nose dive next season without a mobile, rim protecting big man next season.

Either they'll need to draft (least favorable), sign (more favorable) or bring over Milutinov (might not be NBA ready) to fill the void. Or they could try to bring him back but that seems to be off the table, right now.

J_Paco
05-25-2017, 04:08 AM
I don't know if it's true, but based on Pop's reaction to Bertans getting in that one little scuffle, it sure as hell could be. Bertans had been putting in some good minutes, and he just got disappeared after that. The funny thing is that it was Dedmon that was in the wrestling match, and Bertans came over to show that he had Dedmon's back. There's no doubt that Bertans wound up in Pop's shithouse over that incident. (Worse than the doghouse.) It makes sense that he would treat Dedmon the same way.

I don't always agree with all the Pop criticism. But you can't talk about your team being soft, and turn around and punish the ones that won't let themselves be pushed around. Not to that extent. When it happened I thought it was about time someone on the team showed some heart. And if Pop is saying that getting tossed from one game hurt the team, then what did holding him out of a whole bunch of games do to the team?

If that's really the issue, Dedmon should be looking for someplace else to play.

SMDH

Wow, if that really is why he was demoted and Bertans completely benched then, fuck, it is time for Pop to call it quits.

That toughness is exactly what the team needs and lacks with Gasol and Aldridge as the main big men.

MultiTroll
05-25-2017, 08:22 AM
SMDH

Wow, if that really is why he was demoted and Bertans completely benched then, fuck, it is time for Pop to call it quits.

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Hop in Marty! We've got a trip to 2008!

tholdren
05-25-2017, 04:01 PM
Dude. not cool. When the season was on the line, Dorn took one for the team.

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My bad

portnoy1
05-25-2017, 04:10 PM
Dedmon can start if you have four solid perimeter​ threats with one of them being a PG that can distribute. He can rebound and protect the rim, run the floor. I'm all for signing him if they get the PG situation straight.

Ice009
05-26-2017, 03:01 AM
I don't want to make it sound as if he's indispensable, but I'm seeing a lot of prisoner of the moment takes in this thread. A few months ago many of you were raving about him. Now, because the starting lineup struggled offensively down the stretch (with a broken Parker, Aldridge and Green), he's all of a sudden irrelevant?

On a team where the two primary bigs are Aldridge and Gasol, they desperately need an athletic, tough, glass cleaning, rim rolling/protecting type and they don't grow on trees and rarely come cheap.

They can't afford to lose their elite defense, considering they have no immediate path back to being an explosive offensive team.

Yeah, that is true. After a game against Philadelphia where he had double digit points and rebounds, I remember Tony saying something like - what are you doing, Dewayne, we're trying to re-sign you. So yeah, there was definitely a point in the season where the Spurs wanted him back, and so did I. Not sure if all that has changed with the Spurs. As for me, I'm a little indifferent about it. I guess it depends on the amount of money.


I like Deadman, and I had hoped to keep him and let Timmy coach him up. But that was probably never going to happen. As I recall, he was less than enamored with San Antonio and its amenities. So he was probably off to a more suitable address almost regardless of what Pop thought of him.

Where did you get that from?

sasaint
05-26-2017, 12:44 PM
Where did you get that from?

I thought I remembered a quote from Deadman to the effect that San Antonio (the city) was rather dull. But I searched through the threads where I thought I might find the quote and came up empty. So, perhaps I was mistaken.

spursistan
06-05-2017, 03:52 PM
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Not exactly the mood of someone who burned his bridges..:wakeup

DAF86
06-05-2017, 04:01 PM
Dedmon can start if you have four solid perimeter​ threats with one of them being a PG that can distribute. He can rebound and protect the rim, run the floor. I'm all for signing him if they get the PG situation straight.

Exactly, Dedmon has all the phsysical tools to be the type of center today's NBA game demands. I would rather get rid of Pau, Aldridge and Lee before Dedmon, tbh.

spursistan
06-05-2017, 04:03 PM
Exactly, Dedmon has all the phsysical tools to be the type of center today's NBA game demands. I would rather get rid of Pau, Aldridge and Lee before Dedmon, tbh.
CP3 would turn him into a mini-Deandre, tbh..

TheGreatYacht
06-05-2017, 04:59 PM
CP3 would turn him into a mini-Deandre, tbh..
No lol, Deadman is a terrible screener and roller. Worst court awareness I've seen in awhile. Even Ayres got himself in good positions, just couldn't catch the ball or dunk.

Forget about getting a good Point Guard if we're spending $10M+/yr on this system player.

stu scotts eye
06-06-2017, 03:04 PM
I just dont like how Pop continued to give him constant rotational minutes going into the playoffs. He knew this flaw and shoulda switched back to Gasol or Lee whom ended up playing alot. No chemistry is what pissed me off.

I oddly felt overly excited bout Deadmon much like I always seem to get when discussing athletic bigs' potentials for the past 15 yrs with the Spurs.. But they never seemed to get over those humps (i.e. Elson, Mahimmi). Maybe its bc I got tired of seeing Timmy paired with smaller front court starters and he always took the wear and tear.

jermaine
06-06-2017, 03:27 PM
I just dont like how Pop continued to give him constant rotational minutes going into the playoffs. He knew this flaw and shoulda switched back to Gasol or Lee whom ended up playing alot. No chemistry is what pissed me off.

I oddly felt overly excited bout Deadmon much like I always seem to get when discussing athletic bigs' potentials for the past 15 yrs with the Spurs.. But they never seemed to get over those humps (i.e. Elson, Mahimmi). Maybe its bc I got tired of seeing Timmy paired with smaller front court starters and he always took the wear and tear.

I agree with this man!