Trading Green

[picnroll]

Since trading Kawhi was such a popular idea I thought I'd throw out the idea of trading Green. Before people get their panties in a twist I'm not saying trade him, just looking at the pluses and minuses and what you would want to get in exchange for Green.

First why not trade Green. He's an elite 3 and D defender, all NBA level D, a very valuable asset in today's NBA and is a great compliment to Kawhi on the perimeter.

Why trade Green. He is potentially one of the Spurs more tradeable unencumbered assets. He has one more year and then a player option in 2018-19 at $10 million when he'll be 31. Do you want to sign Green then at who knows what cost? Do you want to lose him then with no return or get something for him this off season?

Adam Hanga's Euroleague profile fits much of Green's profile minus 3 point shooting but better movement off the ball on offense.

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=173287&page=17


Granted it's Euroleague vs NBA but if Spurs thought Chip could improve his shot he could help fill in for a lost Green depending on the assets the Spurs might get back.

What if any player or picks would you expect/want to get for Green?

[TXstbobcat]

Would rather keep Green. His 10 million salary is decent value compared with what other players will get in the offseason. Like his perimeter defense and especially like the idea of keeping Simmons and having 3 good perimeter defenders on the Spurs roster.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Love how all players suggested in a trade or a FA coming to the Spurs are tagged with 'Chip will fix his shot'.

[BatManu20]

Na.

[picnroll]

Love how all players suggested in a trade or a FA coming to the Spurs are tagged with 'Chip will fix his shot'.

"but if"

Reading comprehension is fun.

[tbdog]

Op, can you come up with a trade for 1 or 2 players that cost 10mil or less that both teams will agree upon?

[picnroll]

Op, can you come up with a trade for 1 or 2 players that cost 10mil or less that both teams will agree upon?

Hanga and Green share many of the same attributes minus Hanga's better off ball movement and touch around the basket and Green's 3 point shot. Neither can create for themselves or bend the D. They can't be on the floor at the same time and I think Spur's will bring Hanga over. That said I'd rather Spurs keep Simmons and if they can trade Green to move up in the draft to get a player they're really hot on, a Kawhi-type I'd like to see them make the trade. Thibodeau would love to have Green but I know he's not getting a seven pick. Somewhere in mid teens IF Spurs see the right player and a team would bite.

The corollary to this is how much do you want the Spurs to pay Green in 2018 to keep him?

[TheGreatYacht]

Get that scrub off this team.

[kaji157]

You trade green if packaged with other 10 or so millions nets you a disgusted superstar or star.
Players that may fit this category are Jimmy Butler, Paul George, Wade, etc.
I wouldn't trade him just to add parts similar to him or his caliber.

[Play Boban]

I'd trade Green for a bag of feces tbh. Get this LeBron-posse sucking scrub off our team!

[Play Boban]

You trade green if packaged with other 10 or so millions nets you a disgusted superstar or star.
Players that may fit this category are Jimmy Butler, Paul George, Wade, etc.
I wouldn't trade him just to add parts similar to him or his caliber.
Wade is a TOSB.

[RD2191]

:lol stopped reading at elite, he's a good transition defender but is absolute trash at everything else.

[dabom]

I'm not trading green. :lol

[Mikeanaro]

Some guys will never understand, while 10 mil is not much for a team, whats the point of throwing that amount of money in some useless guy because IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY!
Im sorry but 10 mil is too much for Green BECAUSE HE IS GOOD AT NOTHING!

[HarlemHeat37]

You wouldn't get anything for Green during the off-season, tbh..it wouldn't make sense for the Spurs or any other team, right now, unless he's in a package with one of the bigger contracts..

10 mil per year is around the salary of a 7th/8th man, next season..best you could hope for is a late-round pick at the deadline from a team in win-now mode, but the market changes every year(this past season would have worked, for example, since teams were trading 1sts for players like Bogdonovic and Williams, but it's not always the case)..

[Play Boban]

Bogdonovic :wow:lobt2:

[tholdren]

I dislike green, but his contract is better than tony or pau.

[kaji157]

Wade is a TOSB.

Not te point puf my post.
Te point is i only trade him for a significant upgrade player wise, wouldn't trade him just for a similar level of player at another position because his contract is too friendly.
A wet dream would be to package him and Gasol for a resigned Hayward.

[phxspurfan]

Need someone to guard Kurry

[Spurtacular]

The case for trading Green is being that high on Simmons. I for one am not that high on Simmons.

[cjw]

Some guys will never understand, while 10 mil is not much for a team, whats the point of throwing that amount of money in some useless guy because IS NOT A LOT OF MONEY!
Im sorry but 10 mil is too much for Green BECAUSE HE IS GOOD AT NOTHING!

You sure?

He's got the highest block rate in NBA history among guards. He will get plenty of looks for All Defense this year. He held the finals record for three pointers made until the best shooter of all time broke it and is one of a handful of players who's a 40%+ three point shooter for his career while making at least 2.5 per game (Curry, Klay, Korver, Redick and Green among guys who've started at least 100 games). So a top quartile defender (hard to argue that) and an elite shooter. That's two good things.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&type=per_minute&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&force%3Apos_is=1&c1stat=fg3_per_mp&c1comp=gt&c1val=2.5&c2stat=fg3_pct&c2comp=gt&c2val=.4&c6mult=1.0&order_by=ws

[Mikeanaro]

You sure?

He's got the highest block rate in NBA history among guards. He will get plenty of looks for All Defense this year. He held the finals record for three pointers made until the best shooter of all time broke it and is one of a handful of players who's a 40%+ three point shooter for his career while making at least 2.5 per game (Curry, Klay, Korver, Redick and Green among guys who've started at least 100 games). So a top quartile defender (hard to argue that) and an elite shooter. That's two good things.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/psl_finder.cgi?request=1&match=combined&type=per_minute&per_minute_base=36&per_poss_base=100&season_start=1&season_end=-1&lg_id=NBA&age_min=0&age_max=99&is_playoffs=N&height_min=0&height_max=99&birth_country_is=Y&as_comp=gt&pos_is_g=Y&pos_is_gf=Y&pos_is_f=Y&pos_is_fg=Y&pos_is_fc=Y&pos_is_c=Y&pos_is_cf=Y&force%3Apos_is=1&c1stat=fg3_per_mp&c1comp=gt&c1val=2.5&c2stat=fg3_pct&c2comp=gt&c2val=.4&c6mult=1.0&order_by=ws
Im positive, he needs to go, has been sucking 3 years in a row, Clips 2015 1 good game out of 7, same last season, and this season had 2 good games during the whole playoff run, same Patty Mills I really like Patty but I dont want him in SA anymore.

[DMC]

Love how all players suggested in a trade or a FA coming to the Spurs are tagged with 'Chip will fix his shot'.

Chip has a hell of a resume though. Look what he did for Blair's FT shooting, KL's FT shooting, KL's 3pt shot, Tony and Danny.... surely more. Guys who listen to him improve, but I don't think Tim ever listened to him because Tim never did put any arch on his shot. I think Chip didn't see a reason to fuck with Tim's shot.

[cjw]

Im positive, he needs to go, has been sucking 3 years in a row, Clips 2015 1 good game out of 7, same last season, and this season had 2 good games during the whole playoff run, same Patty Mills I really like Patty but I dont want him in SA anymore.

At least I can agree with you on Patty. Great guy, but not going to beat GS with him. If someone can't beat GS (same goes for Pau), then they have no reason to be here.

[BillMc]

The case for trading Green is being that high on Simmons. I for one am not that high on Simmons.
Yep. Would rather have both, given the choice, Danny stays.

[TimDunkem]

I'd rather have Simmons. Much more dynamic player who's just hitting his prime while Danny is a one-trick pony who has clearly peaked.

Just my opinion.

[Arcadian]

Since trading Kawhi was such a popular idea

It was???

[GSH]

Since trading Kawhi was such a popular idea


http://68.media.tumblr.com/bc59be6a89af324ded9dc87973b06a2f/tumblr_o36kxrBRO81qg39ewo1_500.gif

[DPG21920]

Danny's worth is so much more than his contract that unless it was a Hill for Kawhi type trade, I dont see how you can win a deal like that.

If there is someone in/around the lottery that SA loves and someone is willing to take Danny for that pick while freeing up money to sign a bigger FA? Ok, but seems unlikely.

[SAGirl]

I doubt very much that you get a lottery pick for Danny.

[DPG21920]

I agree it's unlikely - just saying that is about the only scenario I see that makes sense for SA. But I love Danny and would hate to see him go.

Side note - You know how many people are going to ask for Murray in a deal if SA decides to salary dump people? A lot and they won't get anywhere with that request.

[spursmvp]

Since trading Kawhi was such a popular idea I thought I'd throw out the idea of trading Green.

I don't think you should take kawhi trade threads seriously. Trolls don't count.

[TheGreatYacht]

Green being worth more than his contract? Stop DPG. I agree with you 95% of the time. But this? I can't.

[therealtruth]

In 2015 first round he was the best Blake Griffin defender.

[BillMc]

Off topic, but I think Danny has a shot at the second team All defensive this year, or at least some significant votes. When is that going to be announced?

[duncan2k5]

Get Danny OUT overrated defense, an stagnates the offense...It isnt even just about him missing shots...He gets gun shy at times and ran off the line at others...Then he dribble into the lane and gets stuck...Then passes back out (which usually ge picked off, or if it doesn't, leaves whoever with 2 seconds to make something happen)...He doesn't have start level hand or decision making me a 2 guard

[duncan2k5]

The league is moving in the direction of dynamic players at every spot...Damn only skill is an iffy 3 point shot that d work again the teams we need to beat in the playoffs

[Atl Spur]

Danny has no heart........must go!

[dbestpro]

If you can get a first round pick then he goes.

[Atl Spur]

I would take two high seconds also....

[SAGirl]

Danny has no heart........must go!
I guess this is your troll shtick this summer.... ok /ignore.

[picnroll]

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