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lefty
05-27-2017, 04:38 PM
Good read tbh

http://www.businessinsider.com/brad-stevens-butler-assistant-to-nba-coach-2017-5/#stevens-was-a-high-school-basketball-star-in-indiana-but-received-only-one-division-i-offer-after-high-school-he-chose-instead-to-play-diii-basketball-at-depauw-university-1

monosylab1k
05-27-2017, 04:45 PM
Best overall coach in the NBA, tbh. Carlisle is the best X's and O's guy, Pop better at team management, but all put together I'd take Brad Stevens over anyone else. It's such bullshit that a shitty coach like Phil Jackson can fall assbackwards in 10 rings, while Stevens probably won't get half that many despite being a far superior coach.

lefty
05-27-2017, 05:25 PM
Best overall coach in the NBA, tbh. Carlisle is the best X's and O's guy, Pop better at team management, but all put together I'd take Brad Stevens over anyone else. It's such bullshit that a shitty coach like Phil Jackson can fall assbackwards in 10 rings, while Stevens probably won't get half that many despite being a far superior coach.
Read a recent article about Pop studying Stevens 's out of time out plays

Mark Celibate
05-27-2017, 05:27 PM
Best overall coach in the NBA, tbh. Carlisle is the best X's and O's guy, Pop better at team management, but all put together I'd take Brad Stevens over anyone else. It's such bullshit that a shitty coach like Phil Jackson can fall assbackwards in 10 rings, while Stevens probably won't get half that many despite being a far superior coach.

:cry but m-muh meditation in the zen room :cry

If Mike Brown wins the championship this season, it really puts a stain on Phil Jackson's legacy in my book.

Killakobe81
05-27-2017, 07:47 PM
I still pace him third and Im pissed Celts got him ..
but the east is a joke ... and pop and rc could make the ECF with similar talent/path
Great coach, but still take Pop and RC ...1 and 2 ...

Spurtacular
05-27-2017, 10:15 PM
:cry but m-muh meditation in the zen room :cry

If Mike Brown wins the championship this season, it really puts a stain on Phil Jackson's legacy in my book.

Or if Tyrone Lue goes back to back. So, either way, honestly.

But he was smart enough to rest Lebron. If KC Jones had been that smart, the Celts might've won 5 in a row from 84 to 88.

DMC
05-28-2017, 12:53 AM
:cry but m-muh meditation in the zen room :cry

If Mike Brown wins the championship this season, it really puts a stain on Phil Jackson's legacy in my book.

Kerr and Lue winning in their 1st years as head coaches did that already. Phil is a fraud. I said this years ago when all the ring talk was going around. Phil's coaching tree looks like a skewer.

Canyonero
05-28-2017, 08:51 AM
He should be an assistant coach in the USMNT under Pop

dfens
05-28-2017, 10:38 AM
Kerr and Lue winning in their 1st years as head coaches did that already. Phil is a fraud. I said this years ago when all the ring talk was going around. Phil's coaching tree looks like a skewer.

the truth is phil was the perfect coach for shaq and then for kobe. You don't need a coach with these players, you need a full time babysitter.

ambchang
05-28-2017, 11:17 AM
Phil was an ego manager and he creates an internally competitive environment to feed off the egos of those superstars.

Jordan and Pippen vs management then Kukoc.

Shaq vs Kobe

Carmelo vs the system (and he came to the conclusion melo is not that superstar)

Kobe vs MVPau

And he uses the media to psychologically push his players to achieve the end goal

His method gets short term results but eventually wears down the team and cause them to collapse.

I always find it funny that he has a huge ego for someone who is supposedly zen. He's a walking contradiction.

whitemamba
05-28-2017, 07:14 PM
Phil was an ego manager and he creates an internally competitive environment to feed off the egos of those superstars.

Jordan and Pippen vs management then Kukoc.

Shaq vs Kobe

Carmelo vs the system (and he came to the conclusion melo is not that superstar)

Kobe vs MVPau

And he uses the media to psychologically push his players to achieve the end goal

His method gets short term results but eventually wears down the team and cause them to collapse.

I always find it funny that he has a huge ego for someone who is supposedly zen. He's a walking contradiction.

Rank me your top 5 all time

DMC
05-28-2017, 07:21 PM
Phil was an ego manager and he creates an internally competitive environment to feed off the egos of those superstars.

Jordan and Pippen vs management then Kukoc.

Shaq vs Kobe

Carmelo vs the system (and he came to the conclusion melo is not that superstar)

Kobe vs MVPau

And he uses the media to psychologically push his players to achieve the end goal

His method gets short term results but eventually wears down the team and cause them to collapse.

I always find it funny that he has a huge ego for someone who is supposedly zen. He's a walking contradiction.
+1

DMC
05-28-2017, 07:24 PM
Rank me your top 5 all time

Pop
Larry
Pat
Don
Chuck

whitemamba
05-28-2017, 08:54 PM
Pop
Larry
Pat
Don
Chuck

I got ..
Larry
Pat
Pop
sloan
phil

ambchang
05-28-2017, 09:01 PM
Rank me your top 5 all time

Daly (ushering in the defense era)
Pop (building a culture)
Brown (x and o's)
Riley (ruthlessness, he's similar to phil in which he burns people out, but he motivates and develops better)
Auerbach (putting in that defensive system, black players)

I also like Ramsey (for the way he changed his nba views fitness), Phil (ego manager)

lefty
05-28-2017, 09:36 PM
Adelman was quite good too tbh

Mark Celibate
05-28-2017, 10:46 PM
Phil was an ego manager and he creates an internally competitive environment to feed off the egos of those superstars.

Jordan and Pippen vs management then Kukoc.

Shaq vs Kobe

Carmelo vs the system (and he came to the conclusion melo is not that superstar)

Kobe vs MVPau

And he uses the media to psychologically push his players to achieve the end goal

His method gets short term results but eventually wears down the team and cause them to collapse.

I always find it funny that he has a huge ego for someone who is supposedly zen. He's a walking contradiction.

Interesting. Never thought of it that way

Mitch
05-29-2017, 12:14 AM
He should be an assistant coach in the USMNT under Pop

We're better off firing pop.

ambchang
05-29-2017, 05:15 AM
Adelman was quite good too tbh

Adelman was good. His moving offensive was the predecessor of today's game to an extent. Problem is that the system wasn't suitable for the era. He was also a bit of a whiner and that loser mentality rubbed off on the team, which I partially blame as one reason they never won it all.

Dantoni had a huge influence on today's game. But he's a one trick pony.

Carlisle is obviously solid but doesn't develop the young. A little early with regards to Stevens.

DD
05-29-2017, 11:07 AM
Phil made the players buy in that Adelman was Hitler. He also dominated your pockmarked hero, who's light 3 rings cause of Phil...maybe 4, but 2008 was probably not happening anyways

DMC
05-29-2017, 12:19 PM
Phil was the Steve Kerr of his generation: A role player on a team that did really well who lucked out by having a juggernaut team, then used MJ's rep to land the job in LA. Jerry wanted to fire Phil, MJ saved his skin.

SuperCam
06-19-2019, 07:43 AM
This corn pone ass motherfucker has been exposed as a fraud who can't handle an ounce of ego that comes with just about any star in the league. He makes Poopavich look like Doc Rivers in that regard :lol

he can only hope to coach teams comprised of young college aged players, with the only stars either white Americans or euros, tbh. But Ainge would have to forgo trying to sign almost all of the league's all stars, not that they want to sign there anyways..

Othyus Lalanne
06-19-2019, 08:55 AM
Phil was the Steve Kerr of his generation: A role player on a team that did really well who lucked out by having a juggernaut team, then used MJ's rep to land the job in LA. Jerry wanted to fire Phil, MJ saved his skin.

You cannot compare the 2 because Kerr's career is way shorter.

FrostKing
06-19-2019, 12:28 PM
Supposedly Stevens has a clause in his contract that would allow him to leave for the Duke Basketball job....

spursistan
06-19-2019, 12:45 PM
This corn pone ass motherfucker has been exposed as a fraud who can't handle an ounce of ego that comes with just about any star in the league. He makes Poopavich look like Doc Rivers in that regard :lol

he can only hope to coach teams comprised of young college aged players, with the only stars either white Americans or euros, tbh. But Ainge would have to forgo trying to sign almost all of the league's all stars, not that they want to sign there anyways..

The wankfest over him in Spring 2018 was cute though :lol..

R. DeMurre
06-19-2019, 12:57 PM
What's happening to the Celtics now just shows how difficult it can be to manage players and all of the unpredictable things that can happen... Who could've predicted that Kyrie and Tatum wouldn't get along? Or that Kyrie would suddenly become a flat earth conspiracy nut? How often does a new free agent suffer a gruesome season ending injury five minutes into his very first game? Pop & Phil Jackson have both said it multiple times: it takes great skill combined with good luck to win a championship.