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Silver&Black
05-29-2017, 11:53 AM
It's this guy right?

http://media2.wptv.com/photo/2017/05/29/wptv-tiger-wood-mugshot_1496072316915_60340617_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

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05-29-2017, 12:13 PM
A lot of shit was buried in the salad days by Media. Once ---small fry--- Media heard the police call (she went after him with that pitching wedge) on their scanners the dam collapsed & his goose was cooked.

You can damn well believe that Nicklaus is one happy white man, &.

DMC
05-29-2017, 12:16 PM
Pretty sure OJ beats Tiger. Kobe was even worse than that. All Tiger did was cheat on his wife, he didn't rape.

Thread
05-29-2017, 12:17 PM
Pretty sure OJ beats Tiger. Kobe was even worse than that. All Tiger did was cheat on his wife, he didn't rape.

I knew somebody was going to lodge Kobe, but, I never thought you'd stoop there.

I was mistaken.

UNT Eagles 2016
05-29-2017, 12:19 PM
OJ or Steve McNair don't count because they were at least long retired.

DMC
05-29-2017, 12:21 PM
OJ or Steve McNair don't count because they were at least long retired.

Sure it counts, retired or not. Tiger's infidelity had nothing to do with his sport, wasn't illegal, wasn't shocking. Pete Rose would be another. Dude was banned from the HOF.

140
05-29-2017, 12:21 PM
Kobe was even worse than that. All Tiger did was cheat on his wife, he didn't rape.

DMC
05-29-2017, 12:23 PM
I knew somebody was going to lodge Kobe, but, I never thought you'd stoop there.

I was mistaken.

Come to Pappy

Signed,
Pappy

whitemamba
05-29-2017, 12:28 PM
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/GTY_OJ_Simpson_MEM_150921_4x3_992.jpg

resistanze
05-29-2017, 12:28 PM
Sure it counts, retired or not. Tiger's infidelity had nothing to do with his sport, wasn't illegal, wasn't shocking. Pete Rose would be another. Dude was banned from the HOF.

It has more to do for me with his catastrophic loss of form in his athletic prime rather than the infidelity part. He has not come close to winning a major since June 2008.
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/58fa52b47522cacd008b558a-1201

:lol

whitemamba
05-29-2017, 12:30 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTf2YnE5X2O12_7x126aZ3OXHpWyAux0 2XNKDD5AAauKIr52x-q

Clipper Nation
05-29-2017, 12:37 PM
It wasn't Eldrick's infidelity that ruined his career. It was the PGA finally cracking down on steroids after he won his last major, followed by Anthony Galea getting caught smuggling HGH into the US.

http://www.golf.com/ap-news/pga-tour-begins-new-era-drug-testing

http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/tiger-woods-paid-anthony-galea-76k-14-visits-new-book-says

http://www.golf.com/ap-news/gary-player-alleges-drug-use-golf

Furthermore, golf has a lot more parity now than it did during Eldrick's prime. The sport is now loaded with phenomenal talents, and none of them were ever afraid of Eldrick. It's not 20 years ago anymore, when the talent pool was so shallow that guys like David Duval were getting hyped as possible "rivals" to Eldrick. He could no longer compete with both the young guns and the veterans with natural games who aged well.

DMC
05-29-2017, 12:40 PM
It has more to do for me with his catastrophic loss of form in his athletic prime rather than the infidelity part. He has not come close to winning a major since June 2008.
http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/58fa52b47522cacd008b558a-1201

:lol

That's not the same as 'fall from grace". Btw, guys like him (few and far in between) don't usually have slow drops. Dude was at the top for 20 years, and got there almost right away, and dropped out due to injury, so right away. It's amazing he ran that long.

UNT Eagles 2016
05-29-2017, 12:45 PM
That's not the same as 'fall from grace". Btw, guys like him (few and far in between) don't usually have slow drops. Dude was at the top for 20 years, and got there almost right away, and dropped out due to injury, so right away. It's amazing he ran that long.
How do you get injured playing golf? :lol

I mean, there are 70 year olds that play it at a high level.

DMC
05-29-2017, 12:45 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTf2YnE5X2O12_7x126aZ3OXHpWyAux0 2XNKDD5AAauKIr52x-q

Cycling is such an esoteric sport though, a lot of people cannot even identify him. I think everyone who could identify him knew he was cheating.

Put Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds in there as well as Canseco. I cannot believe MLB still recognizes their numbers.

TXstbobcat
05-29-2017, 12:55 PM
Rae Carruth, Aaron Hernandez, and Lawrence Phillips should be on that list but below OJ and Tiger.

Silver&Black
05-29-2017, 12:59 PM
Good calls with Lance and OJ. I don't think Pete Rose quite reaches the other 3, but he's another good mention.

resistanze
05-29-2017, 01:01 PM
That's not the same as 'fall from grace". Btw, guys like him (few and far in between) don't usually have slow drops. Dude was at the top for 20 years, and got there almost right away, and dropped out due to injury, so right away. It's amazing he ran that long.

It think the scandal and his drop off in play will always be linked, unfairly or not. I mean, I have no clue how how was ranked first for so long, his splits are staggering.

1997-2007: 59 tour wins, 13 majors

2007-2017: 18 tour wins (10 before scandal in 2009, none after 2013), 1 major (2008)

Silver&Black
05-29-2017, 01:01 PM
Rae Carruth, Aaron Hernandez, and Lawrence Phillips

Honorable mentions. But, you need to be close to GOAT status in your sport to qualify IMO.

Lance was the GOAT cyclist....Tiger was on pace to pass Jack....etc.

resistanze
05-29-2017, 01:01 PM
OJ is the biggest strictly speaking 'fall from grace' however, but Tiger's fall off is just amazing.

Clipper Nation
05-29-2017, 01:01 PM
How do you get injured playing golf? :lol

I mean, there are 70 year olds that play it at a high level.
Easily? Playing golf can be rough on your back, knees and joints. The pro golfers that play into their 70s are the ones who always did the proper exercises for their sport, as opposed to roiding up and doing an insane weightlifting routine every week like Eldrick did in his prime. He was lifting 5-6 days a week when most pros only lift two or three days a week at the most.

UNT Eagles 2016
05-29-2017, 01:05 PM
Honorable mentions. But, you need to be close to GOAT status in your sport to qualify IMO.

Lance was the GOAT cyclist....Tiger was on pace to pass Jack....etc.
Lance is still legit in my book.

lefty
05-29-2017, 01:25 PM
Tony Parker thread!

whitemamba
05-29-2017, 01:37 PM
Cycling is such an esoteric sport though, a lot of people cannot even identify him. I think everyone who could identify him knew he was cheating.

Put Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds in there as well as Canseco. I cannot believe MLB still recognizes their numbers.

Yah, thats a good point, but the Tour De France is pretty global I feel. Like any major sporting event, it'll draw the casual fans strictly because its on TV. Granted I don't know shit about cycling, but I knew who Lance was, he was a big deal with the Livestrong shit etc. He was a well liked figure, especially with him losing hit nuts or whatever, but still, he was dominating the sport for years, and then just fell of a cliff. The MLB is a god damn joke and everyone knows it. Mark, Bonds, Sosa, Tejada, A-Fraud, Canseco, Manny R, the list goes on and on. I agree , all those numbers should be expunged, and expunged ASAP. Pretty disrespectful to the ones who came before them if I'm honest.

DMC
05-29-2017, 02:20 PM
Yah, thats a good point, but the Tour De France is pretty global I feel. Like any major sporting event, it'll draw the casual fans strictly because its on TV. Granted I don't know shit about cycling, but I knew who Lance was, he was a big deal with the Livestrong shit etc. He was a well liked figure, especially with him losing hit nuts or whatever, but still, he was dominating the sport for years, and then just fell of a cliff. The MLB is a god damn joke and everyone knows it. Mark, Bonds, Sosa, Tejada, A-Fraud, Canseco, Manny R, the list goes on and on. I agree , all those numbers should be expunged, and expunged ASAP. Pretty disrespectful to the ones who came before them if I'm honest.

But Lance was retired from cycling as well.


I still feel like Pete Rose is perhaps the biggest of all time. Iron Mike is up there as well.

whitemamba
05-29-2017, 02:28 PM
But Lance was retired from cycling as well.


I still feel like Pete Rose is perhaps the biggest of all time. Iron Mike is up there as well.

tbh, no clue who pete rose is. I googled him and hes way before my time, especially for a baseball player.As for Tyson, do you mean financially or just in general?

DMC
05-29-2017, 02:47 PM
tbh, no clue who pete rose is. I googled him and hes way before my time, especially for a baseball player.As for Tyson, do you mean financially or just in general?

In general. He was at the top of his game then it seems in a very short time he was reduced to nothing.

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05-29-2017, 02:54 PM
In general. He was at the top of his game then it seems in a very short time he was reduced to nothing.

Yes, one fight, one defeat and it was over. Over-over. Immediately, like he'd died, or, something. Like 36 hours & he was kaput. Unanimously jettisoned by Media.

It was weird.

DMC
05-29-2017, 03:04 PM
Yes, one fight, one defeat and it was over. Over-over. Immediately, like he'd died, or, something. Like 36 hours & he was kaput. Unanimously jettisoned by Media.

It was weird.

But boxing has always been such an unpolished event, mafiosa driven it seems, and the fight card is so often suspect and the judges are corrupt and the entire thing is a sham. It's embarrassing.

whitemamba
05-29-2017, 03:42 PM
In general. He was at the top of his game then it seems in a very short time he was reduced to nothing.

This is because people in boxing fall in love with the record. 1 loss and its over, which is wrong. In MMgay for example, a loss doesnt really mean shit, they still try to pin the best vs the best. Tyson lost to McBride, and D.Williams when he was a TOSB. His other 3 losses were, 2 to holyfield, and 1 to lennox. There was also that 1 random time he got knocked out by James douglas (42-1 underdog) Tyson was on top for years. I think he fell of cause he got old and shitty, and he was TERRIBLE with the media. He wasnt the smartest guy. Look at floyd , great with the media, smart business man, and he stayed on top. That being said Tyson was 50-6, how much longer can you stay on top ?

Silver&Black
05-30-2017, 08:03 AM
“I want the public to know that alcohol was not involved. What happened was an unexpected reaction to prescribed medications. I didn’t realize the mix of medications had affected me so strongly,” the statement says.

-Tiger Woods

lebomb
05-30-2017, 09:02 AM
Any athlete convicted of murder is tops on the list period.

hitmanyr2k
05-30-2017, 09:24 AM
It's this guy right?

http://media2.wptv.com/photo/2017/05/29/wptv-tiger-wood-mugshot_1496072316915_60340617_ver1.0_640_480.jpg

Goddamn. He's unrecognizable. I had to read a few posts just to find out who he was :lol

Chucho
05-30-2017, 10:36 AM
Man, it's definitely a toss up between Tigga and Stabby Stab Stabb. It's hard work being the white man's athlete, it really is.

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05-30-2017, 01:14 PM
Not topsy by any stretch but Roy Tarpley was a shocking waste. Done too soon and dead at 50.

We wanted him bad, but, that idiot Carter wouldn't budge.

Mitch
05-30-2017, 01:30 PM
Why does Tiger look like a homeless bum? Dude has like half a billion in the bank or more :lol

DarrinS
05-30-2017, 01:45 PM
It's this guy right?

http://media2.wptv.com/photo/2017/05/29/wptv-tiger-wood-mugshot_1496072316915_60340617_ver1.0_640_480.jpg


He looks a bit better in ESPN's version

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/94/2017/05/IMG_2092-832x447.jpg

spurraider21
05-30-2017, 02:07 PM
kinda looks like russell wilson :lol

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05-30-2017, 02:12 PM
He looks a bit better in ESPN's version

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/94/2017/05/IMG_2092-832x447.jpg

Excruciating pain will drive anybody to seek relief.

DMC
05-30-2017, 04:43 PM
ESPN protecting their story fodder by giving Tiger a hair makeover via Photoshop.

Clipper Nation
05-30-2017, 06:25 PM
Bob Harig probably Photoshopped it himself and saved an extra copy for his spank bank.

slacker77
05-30-2017, 06:32 PM
uuhh.. steve francis anyone??

spurraider21
05-30-2017, 06:42 PM
len bias

clambake
05-30-2017, 07:13 PM
at the time....one of the most public falls from grace was lance rentzel.

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05-30-2017, 09:28 PM
at the time....one of the most public falls from grace was lance rentzel.

I remember not long afterward he went up against Bruce Taylor/49'ers on a Sunday afternoon. Taylor really worked the exposure angle all game long, but, Rentzel took it.

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05-30-2017, 09:36 PM
Amy Duncan fell from grace, &. Had no prenup. She ended up with a wetback and your 1st 5th NBA Title.

Amy Duncan

spurraider21
05-30-2017, 09:39 PM
Amy Duncan fell from grace, &. Had no prenup. She ended up with a wetback and your 1st 5th NBA Title.

Amy Duncan
FAKE NEWS

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05-30-2017, 09:41 PM
FAKE NEWS

Christ, I'd tried to tell you cats that at the time and I roundly had the living shit beat out of me. Now, NOW, now, you want to set the record straight.

spurraider21
05-30-2017, 09:43 PM
Christ, I'd tried to tell you cats that at the time and I roundly had the living shit beat out of me. Now, NOW, now, you want to set the record straight.
there was a prenup. always was.

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05-30-2017, 09:44 PM
there was a prenup. always was.

I said it first. Me.

spurraider21
05-30-2017, 09:45 PM
I said it first. Me.bullshit. i remember we were having this argument a while back, which is why i kept posting this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMatvWAgBoM

Mitch
05-30-2017, 10:07 PM
Amy Duncan fell from grace, &. Had no prenup. She ended up with a wetback and your 1st 5th NBA Title.

Amy Duncan

She kept the kids, though. Timmy has to get permission from her and the courts every time he wants to be a father until they're 18 and choose to see their other father.

Silver&Black
05-30-2017, 10:32 PM
Amy Duncan fell from grace, &. Had no prenup. She ended up with a wetback and your 1st 5th NBA Title.

Amy Duncan

I knew somebody was going to lodge Amy, but, I never thought you'd stoop there.

I was mistaken.

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05-30-2017, 11:01 PM
bullshit. i remember we were having this argument a while back, which is why i kept posting this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMatvWAgBoM


You're full of shit. I was first. Me.

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05-30-2017, 11:01 PM
I knew somebody was going to lodge Amy, but, I never thought you'd stoop there.

I was mistaken.

I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

Biggems
05-30-2017, 11:26 PM
Rae Carruth, Aaron Hernandez, and Lawrence Phillips should be on that list but below OJ and Tiger.

Carruth was not a great player, he didn't have far to fall. Phillips and Hernandez were always scumbags. Phillips had a poor NFL career.

Someone that comes to mind for me is Kirby Puckett, a great player and very upstanding human being, who turns out to be a steaming, festering pile of shit as a human being.

As far as San Antonio goes, Alvin Robertson. He was one helluva player, a top defensive player. He was highly revered, on and off the court. Once he got traded to Milwaukee, his ugly side showed. His basketball career went to shit, and he demonstrated that off the court he was nothing more than a lifelong felon and piece of trash.

Mikeanaro
05-30-2017, 11:30 PM
OJ, period.

Silver&Black
05-31-2017, 12:27 AM
I'm a trend setter.

I set trends.

Nah. Just caught you doing the same thing you belittled DMC for doing earlier in the thread.

You're a chickenshitPERIOD.

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05-31-2017, 04:32 AM
Nah. Just caught you doing the same thing you belittled DMC for doing earlier in the thread.

You're a chickenshitPERIOD.

Get your own shit. That's my shit.

benefactor
05-31-2017, 06:09 AM
She kept the kids, though. Timmy has to get permission from her and the courts every time he wants to be a father until they're 18 and choose to see their other father.
In Texas, kids can have a say at 12 years old where they want to stay...it isn't set in stone but they can meet with the judge and make their wishes known.