The Official English Premier League Thread, 2017-18 [Archive]

dfens

08-22-2017, 05:10 AM

There are actually 5-6 big teams, and those occupied first 6 places last season. But yes, teams like Leicester or or now third league Blackburn Rovers can win it from time to time. Argentine league is even more evenly matched, big teams lose category, half season tournaments are very unpredictable too, all teams have their chances. I think Brazilian league is quite even too.

the PL has fake parity, I remember seeing this graphed on tv this summer, but can't remember where. anyway, look at the top 8 variation throughout the years, significantly less then germany, spain or italy. Leicester was an enormous outlier.

Canyonero

08-27-2017, 11:15 AM

Liverpool going no lube :wow

TDMVPDPOY

08-27-2017, 11:48 AM

didnt shitsenal just given wenger the wanker a contract extension, same tosb system broken, same pos result...

lol shitsenal

lefty

08-27-2017, 01:40 PM

:lmao Wenger not starting Lacazette

lefty

10-22-2017, 01:31 PM

:lol Klopp
:lol overrated hipster
:cry but he hugs players
:lol Brendan Rodgers was probably better

dfens

10-23-2017, 09:42 AM

:lol Klopp
:lol overrated hipster
:cry but he hugs players
:lol Brendan Rodgers was probably better

everybody I know that knows football has hated on that wanker since his rise to proeminence in bundesliga, forcing injured players to play, dumb "cool" formations, etc .

Canyonero

10-23-2017, 11:05 AM

Koeman gone

lefty

10-23-2017, 11:44 AM

everybody I know that knows football has hated on that wanker since his rise to proeminence in bundesliga, forcing injured players to play, dumb "cool" formations, etc .
Looking forward to FC Hollywood with Heynckes at the helm.
Should be good tbh

Koeman gone

No surprise tbh

Canyonero

10-23-2017, 05:28 PM

Looking forward to FC Hollywood with Heynckes at the helm.
Should be good tbh

No surprise tbh

I read they want Ancelotti

pgardn

10-23-2017, 07:39 PM

Liverpool going no lube :wow

No Mane the Motor.

Then Klopp is relying on injured defenders, Lovern (it's possible Klopp left him out to dry, he took him out very early he was so bad) Severely lacking in the back.
But much better manager than Kenny D or Brendan Rogers

lefty

10-23-2017, 07:56 PM

I read they want Ancelotti

What

Ed Lover

10-28-2017, 06:54 AM

Police Called As David Moyes Seen Loitering Outside Everton’s Training Ground (http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2017/10/24/police-called-as-david-moyes-seen-loitering-outside-evertons-training-ground/)
http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/shutterstock_465836987.jpg

lefty

11-05-2017, 10:54 AM

:lmao City Refs

TheGreatYacht

11-05-2017, 02:35 PM

Morata with the winner against United. Literally shaking.

lefty

11-05-2017, 04:25 PM

Morata with the winner against United. Literally shaking.
Morata scored but he was utter shit tbh

Jodelo

11-05-2017, 04:37 PM

Morata scored but he was utter shit tbh

Same with Benzema but without the goals...

spursistan

11-05-2017, 11:01 PM

lefty

11-05-2017, 11:08 PM

Same with Benzema but without the goals...
I like Morata but he is worse tbh

resistanze

11-08-2017, 11:11 AM

United tards and the Mourinho fanboys crawling back to their holes :lol.. They thought they were "back" after the easiest opening schedule of any relevant team in the big leagues..

Reality setting in: this team is still not great and far off from rejoining Europe Elite like in their glory days..

I can't see how anyone call look at that team and think 'Elite'. Lukaku is a known ghost in big games, their talent is lacking, Pogba is overrated.

Mou needs another 300 mill to spend before he divides the locker room tbh

pgardn

11-09-2017, 11:11 PM

I can't see how anyone call look at that team and think 'Elite'. Lukaku is a known ghost in big games, their talent is lacking, Pogba is overrated.

Mou needs another 300 mill to spend before he divides the locker room tbh

Maybe Pogba is.
But the relationship with Matic was working very well for them. It is now noticeably lacking.
The right combination of players... underrated by this board.

dfens

11-10-2017, 09:19 AM

Maybe Pogba is.
But the relationship with Matic was working very well for them. It is now noticeably lacking.
The right combination of players... underrated by this board.

son pogba is dumb as bricks, he'll never be the key player everybody thinks he is. Super talented but not a winner.

pgardn

11-12-2017, 06:58 PM

son pogba is dumb as bricks, he'll never be the key player everybody thinks he is. Super talented but not a winner.

Son, Man U needs him badly because he works very well with Matic. Matic allows him to make mistakes and get away with it. If you don't watch the games, don't comment.

lefty

11-12-2017, 09:01 PM

You're both right tbh

lefty

11-28-2017, 04:08 PM

:wow Mahrez

:lol Tottenham

pgardn

11-28-2017, 09:57 PM

:wow Mahrez

:lol Tottenham

Depth.

No more K. Walker and Danny Rose is wanting to leave. This wing combo gave Kane, Ericksen, Deli Ali tons of room in mid field. Rose and Walker were the fastest pair of wings in the world. The combination of the Champions League and EPL is too tough with the injuries all teams experience for a team like Tottenham. This is not Man U, MC, or Chelsea. It's a step below Arsenal and Liverpool. Losing Toby A at FB is now taking its toll as well. Ericksen, Ali and Kane are exhausted and without their wing tandem.

Christian Ericksen may be the most fit player in the world. But 2 marathons a week... No.

Take a look at my last champions league repost.
Pooch has already conceded they are done as contenders in the EPL and will struggle for a top 4 finish.

lefty

11-28-2017, 10:13 PM

Depth.

No more K. Walker and Danny Rose is wanting to leave. This wing combo gave Kane, Ericksen, Deli Ali tons of room in mid field. Rose and Walker were the fastest pair of wings in the world. The combination of the Champions League and EPL is too tough with the injuries all teams experience for a team like Tottenham. This is not Man U, MC, or Chelsea. It's a step below Arsenal and Liverpool. Losing Toby A at FB is now taking its toll as well. Ericksen, Ali and Kane are exhausted and without their wing tandem.

Christian Ericksen may be the most fit player in the world. But 2 marathons a week... No.

Take a look at my last champions league repost.
Pooch has already conceded they are done as contenders in the EPL and will struggle for a top 4 finish.
Yup

Hoops Czar

11-29-2017, 07:53 PM

pgardn

11-30-2017, 11:56 PM

But still strong enough to top group H in Champions league, beating and drawing with RM and sweeping BD. That's that EPL depth for you.

Needs to be both. They need to stay afloat in the EPL.

Tottenham's best players will be vulnerable for a swoop in if they don't make the top 4. You did not think Chelsea or Arsenal were better. Not looking so good now. Arsenal now benefits from that patsy Europa league group stage where their B team is good enough. Winter comes a little more than 1/3 through and the drag of how tough it is for teams like Tottenham become apparent. You have to have depth to do well in both. Especially with injuries that are inevitable.

Still hoping.

pgardn

12-01-2017, 12:03 AM

But still strong enough to top group H in Champions league, beating and drawing with RM and sweeping BD. That's that EPL depth for you.

Also, RM did not take Tottenham's ability to counter seriously. BD did not either the first game. The second game, BD was flat out awful in their own stadium. Dortmund did not deserve to go forward, they have deep problems.

Canyonero

12-02-2017, 02:28 PM

Arselol

resistanze

12-02-2017, 02:30 PM

Watched a chunk of that game, first time all season. Only stars of the game:

1. De Gea, might be best keeper in world (probably had 15 saves)
2. Koscielny (for United). He should go to MLS immediately
3. Pogdance (until his idiotic sending off)

lefty

12-02-2017, 03:39 PM

resistanze

12-02-2017, 08:33 PM

1. A lot of keepers look like Dassaev against Arsenal tbh

I mean DDG at worst was already a top 3 keeper...you should go look at the saves if you haven't already tbh

lefty

12-02-2017, 09:11 PM

I mean DDG at worst was already a top 3 keeper...you should go look at the saves if you haven't already tbh
I did. A few good saves but Assnal shot straight at him most of the time

resistanze

12-02-2017, 10:22 PM

I did. A few good saves but Assnal shot straight at him most of the time

They weren't clinical enough, that is for sure tbh

But still, lmao Koscielny.

lefty

12-02-2017, 11:38 PM

They weren't clinical enough, that is for sure tbh

But still, lmao Koscielny.

Kos :lol tbh
Mustafo :lol

pgardn

12-05-2017, 08:17 AM

I did. A few good saves but Assnal shot straight at him most of the time

Especially on the foot save on Sanchez.

Just bang it straight at the keeper?
If it had missed the keepers foot it would have hit him anyway IMO.

pgardn

12-05-2017, 08:21 AM

Kos :lol tbh
Mustafo :lol

Bottom line: Arsenal played a whole lot better. They have a shot at top 4. Tottenham... not so much.

apalisoc_9

12-06-2017, 10:22 AM

Bottom line: Arsenal played a whole lot better. They have a shot at top 4. Tottenham... not so much.

top 4?

looks like wenger is right on track for the coveted top 4 finish. Arsenal fans must be very happy.

pgardn

12-06-2017, 04:55 PM

top 4?

looks like wenger is right on track for the coveted top 4 finish. Arsenal fans must be very happy.

Yeah.

EUROPA this year.

They also got off to a bad start, pretty good since considering.
With amount of $ MC, MU, and Chelsea can spend... It's tough. Now Liverpool is putting forth more money. Then Arsenal. And lastly Tottenham if you look at ability to spend. The top 6 for some time overall. Big drop off after that. Everton spent a whole lot this year and it's not come together.

lefty

12-10-2017, 01:55 PM

:lmao Lukaku

resistanze

12-10-2017, 02:18 PM

:lmao Lukaku

Lupoopoo tbh.

At last you can't say he doesn't show up for big games!

apalisoc_9

12-10-2017, 04:04 PM

Canyonero

12-10-2017, 06:00 PM

Damn, Pep owns Mourinho so bad.

pgardn

12-10-2017, 06:42 PM

Kloop is such a try hard. You are already resting Coutinho and you still want Salah to average 60mins per game?

These wannabe smart coaches are terrible. One lucky season and they start thinking they are gospel.

Mane is back now. He was not good today but he is lightning. Klopp has amassed a bunch of good attacking players. He has lots of options so I guess that makes him easy to criticize.

pgardn

12-10-2017, 06:49 PM

Man U needs Pogba.

The idiot played beautifully last week then decided to cleat the opposition.

apalisoc_9

12-10-2017, 06:59 PM

A player of Salahs caliber should not be seating on the bench for Sadio Mane..

Coutinho and specially salah are clearly a tier above Firminsho and Mane

pgardn

12-10-2017, 07:18 PM

Salah's touch and speed declined as he got tired, noticeably in this particular game. Salah is having a great run and is playing a lot, especially in Mane's absence thru injury. Couthino and Klopp don't see eye to eye. Which is too bad. Liverpool is actually relevant again because of Klopp. But he will try and over manage. The interview after the game with Klopp was a classic.

lefty

12-11-2017, 12:22 AM

This bust-up in the tunnel at Old Trafford today. It wasn't handbags: Mikel Arteta was left with blood pouring down face. Bottles as well as punches thrown. Romelu Lukaku prominently involved, according to witnesses.

spursistan

12-11-2017, 03:02 AM

League is a wrap..City are just a class above everyone this season.

lefty

12-13-2017, 03:55 PM

Mahrez has been on fire

pgardn

12-14-2017, 09:02 PM

League is a wrap..City are just a class above everyone this season.

Yep.

Very consistent. But still some shakiness on defense.

They can be handled in the Champions League though if they immediately try to win the ball back after losing it. This is how they have been scored on. They rush to retake possession and get stretched. Or get caught piled up. But they definitely keep their spacing on D better than last year.

Hoops Czar

12-15-2017, 03:36 AM

Yep.

Very consistent. But still some shakiness on defense.

They can be handled in the Champions League though if they immediately try to win the ball back after losing it. This is how they have been scored on. They rush to retake possession and get stretched. Or get caught piled up. But they definitely keep their spacing on D better than last year.

Stones is injured. That's the main reason they've been scored upon. Mangala is dog shit and Otamendi is only half a player without his sidekick. But, as far as City goes, the best defense is a good offense. They don't give opponents many opportunities to score because the game is mainly played in the opponents half of the pitch. If you can't gain possession, you can't score. City will always be susceptible to the break always but unlike last year, teams are only netting around a quarter of those opportunities and those opportunities are far and few between.

pgardn

12-15-2017, 11:18 AM

Stones is injured. That's the main reason they've been scored upon. Mangala is dog shit and Otamendi is only half a player without his sidekick. But, as far as City goes, the best defense is a good offense. They don't give opponents many opportunities to score because the game is mainly played in the opponents half of the pitch. If you can't gain possession, you can't score. City will always be susceptible to the break always but unlike last year, teams are only netting around a quarter of those opportunities and those opportunities are far and few between.

Stones is valued mainly for getting the ball started down the field. He is very handy with the ball. Kompany is back and they still jump on it. The point is, it may work in the EPL, but the Champions League? You are going to find teams that will absolutely punish this behavior without a clearly superior ball possession team. Which Guardiola had at Barca... I don't think he has that team now. He has a very, very good EPL team. And it's more than just getting possession. But taking risks to regain possession immediately.

I guess this is more of a discussion concerning tactics used in different leagues. Adjustment is necessary. This is how Tottenham won their group quite easily. They showed they can counter. Dortmund and RM did not respect it because they play ball possession in the EPL. So they severely adjusted tactics. Sorry if I strayed, but people just don't post much here.

Oh; and we will see this weekend. MC v. Tottenham should be interesting. Deli Ali has hit a really bad stretch but Son has taken up some slack. Meanwhile, Silva is scoring for MC? What the hell?

dfens

12-15-2017, 04:22 PM

Stones is valued mainly for getting the ball started down the field. He is very handy with the ball. Kompany is back and they still jump on it. The point is, it may work in the EPL, but the Champions League? You are going to find teams that will absolutely punish this behavior without a clearly superior ball possession team. Which Guardiola had at Barca... I don't think he has that team now. He has a very, very good EPL team. And it's more than just getting possession. But taking risks to regain possession immediately.

I guess this is more of a discussion concerning tactics used in different leagues. Adjustment is necessary. This is how Tottenham won their group quite easily. They showed they can counter. Dortmund and RM did not respect it because they play ball possession in the EPL. So they severely adjusted tactics. Sorry if I strayed, but people just don't post much here.

Oh; and we will see this weekend. MC v. Tottenham should be interesting. Deli Ali has hit a really bad stretch but Son has taken up some slack. Meanwhile, Silva is scoring for MC? What the hell?

Imo city are overrated because
1. they play football in a league of kickball and their defense sees little offensive variation
2. guardiola is good, but not great. His achilles heel is that he is too full of himself to realize that his system is situational, he has the golden boy syndrome like mourinho. Arrogant prick too.
3. they aren't pushed constantly by rivals so when they'll meet opposition they won't be as prepared as real madrid for example.

still they're a great team, and definately have a chance at the UCL.

TDMVPDPOY

12-16-2017, 02:08 AM

hey arsenal wanker fans...

why do u clowns always play that turd 24 defender? alberino or whatever his name is...fkn scrub man

pgardn

12-16-2017, 09:45 AM

hey arsenal wanker fans...

why do u clowns always play that turd 24 defender? alberino or whatever his name is...fkn scrub man

Bellerin?

He can run down almost anyone...
The guy may be one of the fastest players in the world.
He holds Arsenal's 40 meter sprint record.
Arsenal has much worse if you would like.

dfens

12-16-2017, 09:51 AM

Bellerin?

He can run down almost anyone...
The guy may be one of the fastest players in the world.
He holds Arsenal's 40 meter sprint record.
Arsenal has much worse if you would like.

son I don't follow premier league politics so I might be ignorant here but why is arsenal staying with wanker? I can't see a reason tbh

resistanze

12-16-2017, 11:59 AM

son I don't follow premier league politics so I might be ignorant here but why is arsenal staying with wanker? I can't see a reason tbh

They are a hugely profitable team without being competitive, a rarity. Why change?

dfens

12-16-2017, 01:11 PM

They are a hugely profitable team without being competitive, a rarity. Why change?

then it's on the fans tbh.

resistanze

12-16-2017, 01:27 PM

then it's on the fans tbh.

Absolutely. They are an Everton quality team with a Chelsea-like revenue stream. Unitil the whining #WengerOut fans actually stop funding the team, they can suffer.

Hoops Czar

12-16-2017, 03:59 PM

Stones is valued mainly for getting the ball started down the field. He is very handy with the ball. Kompany is back and they still jump on it. The point is, it may work in the EPL, but the Champions League? You are going to find teams that will absolutely punish this behavior without a clearly superior ball possession team. Which Guardiola had at Barca... I don't think he has that team now. He has a very, very good EPL team. And it's more than just getting possession. But taking risks to regain possession immediately.

I guess this is more of a discussion concerning tactics used in different leagues. Adjustment is necessary. This is how Tottenham won their group quite easily. They showed they can counter. Dortmund and RM did not respect it because they play ball possession in the EPL. So they severely adjusted tactics. Sorry if I strayed, but people just don't post much here.

Oh; and we will see this weekend. MC v. Tottenham should be interesting. Deli Ali has hit a really bad stretch but Son has taken up some slack. Meanwhile, Silva is scoring for MC? What the hell?

So is that the best the EPL has to offer because that was much worse than the score indicated? Spurs were lucky they didn't lose 7 or 8 to 1. Is the Premier League over yet Because It's getting boring trying to pretend about the competition?

Hoops Czar

12-16-2017, 04:02 PM

Absolutely. They are an Everton quality team with a Chelsea-like revenue stream. Unitil the whining #WengerOut fans actually stop funding the team, they can suffer.
Everton isn't even in Arsenal's zip code, tbh. Everton's best player is Wayne Rooney. Just let that sink in for a second.

Canyonero

12-16-2017, 04:15 PM

City hasn't lost the last 26 EPL games, that's almost 3/4 of a regular season. Can they win this one undefeated like Arsenal?

dfens

12-16-2017, 04:19 PM

City hasn't lost the last 26 EPL games, that's almost 3/4 of a regular season. Can they win this one undefeated like Arsenal?

son but how can that be when the premier league is the most competitive league in the world tbh?:lol

Hoops Czar

12-16-2017, 05:39 PM

son but how can that be when the premier league is the most competitive league in the world tbh?:lol

Ask Real Madrid, son. Not every team has the ability to make Tottenham look like Crystal Palace ya know.

Hoops Czar

12-16-2017, 05:40 PM

City hasn't lost the last 26 EPL games, that's almost 3/4 of a regular season. Can they win this one undefeated like Arsenal?
Nah, they'll get tripped up somewhere along the way. They aren't quite as clinical as they were earlier in the season.

dfens

12-16-2017, 07:52 PM

Ask Real Madrid, son. Not every team has the ability to make Tottenham look like Crystal Palace ya know.

son real madrid are slumping right now but nobody wants to play them come knockout time. they also won euro trophies compared to english clubs.. so imo let city win a UCL and then we'll talk tbh.

pgardn

12-17-2017, 11:59 PM

son I don't follow premier league politics so I might be ignorant here but why is arsenal staying with wanker? I can't see a reason tbh

Because he is better than what they got sitting.
And he is still learning 22 yo. His position requires seasoning in decision making.
The basic physical characteristic that makes him valuable right now as he can push way up and make up huge amounts of ground even if out of position. But he makes a ton of mistakes. They live with it. I'm not a fan of his, just explaining what I see.

pgardn

12-18-2017, 12:16 AM

So is that the best the EPL has to offer because that was much worse than the score indicated? Spurs were lucky they didn't lose 7 or 8 to 1. Is the Premier League over yet Because It's getting boring trying to pretend about the competition?

Spurs were totally and thoroughly outclassed. They now have been bad in the EPL for a full month. Read my posts. Did we learn what I had already told you.

The wings that brought them so much joy last year in the EPL are gone (yes you took Walker) Pooch made the horrible decision of trying to play with MC by pressing. Toby A and their two best central midfielders are gone, Wanyama and Sanchez, so Debruyne just cut them apart. I see why Pooch went for it, but it was disasterous. They tried to play with MC, big mistake.

Meanwhile, MC loses Silva for this game and his sub Gundogan finds perfect open spots and was a huge threat working very well within their system. Hard for a team like Spurs to deal with loaded teams like MC. I told this board why Spurs would have a hard time making the top 4 and it's coming to fruition sadly. These are the types of teams that make the EPL work so don't be such a pompous winner. The Spurs got an eye for good young players but then get raided by teams like MC and Real Madrid when they don't make the final 4. Euro league awaits. Don't talk up the EPL so much if you root a team that can buy anything they want. You will possibly face other teams that can do the same in the UCL

pgardn

12-18-2017, 12:49 AM

son real madrid are slumping right now but nobody wants to play them come knockout time. they also won euro trophies compared to english clubs.. so imo let city win a UCL and then we'll talk tbh.

Real came into the RR thinking they could impose their will on a team that was talented at the time. Spurs had their full complement of players uninjuredd and punished Real for casually coming forward thinking Spurs had no skill. Ali, Ericksen, and Kane punished them as they punished Dortmund who was playing well in the first RR game and in the Budesliga at the time.

You are one of those guys who does not realize there are teams that present threats outside of La Liga. And you pontificate without watching the games. The EPL is 20 teams deep and there are some teams that play to just stay up because the $ is so good with the huge TV contracts. So they will play for draws and not to win. If you know who the teams are in the EPL, you can avoid the games. The Burnley-Brighton game was a good example. Neither cared especially about coming out with a draw. I made the mistake of watching it thinking Brighton (been there and watched them a level down) might try and win. Wrong. Horrible.

Every league has its teams that are irritating and characteristics that are the antithesis of a good watch. La Liga with the players rolling around constantly upon being bitten by a fly, Italy, with teams that flat out don't run and players that can play into their 90s, Ligue 1 just being a bunch of bad teams with some good young players that leave. On the whole I will take the EPL and Bundesliga. But I can see how anyone might hate soccer after going through an old Stoke City (Tony Pulis) v. West Brom (fired Tony Pulis)match, it's horrible. Soccer/Football as a whole can be terrible if it's played poorly because it is an extraordinarly difficult game. And it's easy to teach a team how to foul and draw.

I sometimes have a very difficult time watching the WC because some National teams with good players just don't play enough together and the play is not as good as the Club teams.

Hoops Czar

12-18-2017, 05:42 AM

Spurs were totally and thoroughly outclassed. They now have been bad in the EPL for a full month. Read my posts. Did we learn what I had already told you.

The wings that brought them so much joy last year in the EPL are gone (yes you took Walker) Pooch made the horrible decision of trying to play with MC by pressing. Toby A and their two best central midfielders are gone, Wanyama and Sanchez, so Debruyne just cut them apart. I see why Pooch went for it, but it was disasterous. They tried to play with MC, big mistake.

Meanwhile, MC loses Silva for this game and his sub Gundogan finds perfect open spots and was a huge threat working very well within their system. Hard for a team like Spurs to deal with loaded teams like MC. I told this board why Spurs would have a hard time making the top 4 and it's coming to fruition sadly. These are the types of teams that make the EPL work so don't be such a pompous winner. The Spurs got an eye for good young players but then get raided by teams like MC and Real Madrid when they don't make the final 4. Euro league awaits. Don't talk up the EPL so much if you root a team that can buy anything they want. You will possibly face other teams that can do the same in the UCL

Wait, I'm confused. All the talk this summer was how Trippier was the better player and Walker fell out of favor at Tottenham. Is this true or false?

It's not really about the money entirely. Man City could out spend anyone if they so choose because their owner is mega wealthy. The problem is the Financial Fair Play act that won't allow teams to spend more than they earn. In other words, the books have to be balanced or serious fines and spending caps will likely occur. City knows about this all too well.

I believe City is on the same level as the Barcelona's, RM's and BM's, not a step or two behind because they hail from the EPL and there isn't a so-called diversity of playing styles that helps prepare teams for UCL competition. I think there style of soccer matches up well with most of the big clubs. The only team I'm not too keen on playing is Juventus because they have a world class goalie and if they get an early lead, they'll park 11 men in the box and sit on it.

pgardn

12-18-2017, 08:06 PM

Wait, I'm confused. All the talk this summer was how Trippier was the better player and Walker fell out of favor at Tottenham. Is this true or false?

It's not really about the money entirely. Man City could out spend anyone if they so choose because their owner is mega wealthy. The problem is the Financial Fair Play act that won't allow teams to spend more than they earn. In other words, the books have to be balanced or serious fines and spending caps will likely occur. City knows about this all too well.

I believe City is on the same level as the Barcelona's, RM's and BM's, not a step or two behind because they hail from the EPL and there isn't a so-called diversity of playing styles that helps prepare teams for UCL competition. I think there style of soccer matches up well with most of the big clubs. The only team I'm not too keen on playing is Juventus because they have a world class goalie and if they get an early lead, they'll park 11 men in the box and sit on it.

Trippier is one of the best crossers of the ball in the world. The guy is amazing at volleying crosses. And... That's about it. That's an important it. Walker was keen to leave IMO because Rose, on the other side, was getting more attention at taking defenders on and getting into the box. But thinking Trippier can replace Walker from a speed pov is ridiculous. Pooch, knew this but thought that they could live with Rose blossoming. Well now Rose is healthy and is keen to leave it appears. He has not returned to last year's level.

You watched the game, you saw what Sane did to Trippier. Total speed mismatch. I think this MC team is hugely talented. They get injuries or leave a guy out and the replacement fills in perfectly. Tottenham can't keep up with this deep talent late. Injuries will happen and guys get tired. They put a lot into the UCL. Now the payback occurs. Gotta hope that Chelsea, Liverpool, and Arsenal falter. You read what I wrote early and you thought Spurs were better. The season is very long. Too long for Tottenham possibly. Maybe when Aldeweireld and Wanyama return from injury and Sanchez(bad boy) come back things will turn around. Maybe Rose gets back into last year's form and takes pressure of Ali and Ericksen. Maybe Lamella.... Maybe, maybe, maybe.

Walker has fit in very well as he has got so much talent around him the pressure is not as great. And that F'r is fast and can get good crosses in. Then he has Pep in his ear constantly guiding him. Walker has not even broken a sweat with this group they are so good.

The league is so over.

Man U is just not close to the neighbor's. Frankly, with Liverpool playing well with Coutinho returning to form they could win 2nd. Mane, Salah, Coutinho ... Christ... It's not easy following teams who can't match the $ and get raided. Now the UCL with the firepower on the other teams... If they get into form... This should be fun (not for Tottenham):depressed

IronMexican

12-22-2017, 04:02 PM

...

NASpurs

12-22-2017, 04:02 PM

First it was

:lmao Arsenal

then it's :lmao Liverpool

Crazy game

NASpurs

12-22-2017, 04:04 PM

...

I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool comes from behind and wins this. :lol

NASpurs

12-22-2017, 04:15 PM

crofl here comes the Liverpool win

IronMexican

12-22-2017, 09:20 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if Liverpool comes from behind and wins this. :lol

Didn't watch the game, brah. Had tabs on it, since I was out.

I was like"oh shit, 2-0.". By the time I clicked the app, it was 2-1. I refreshed and it was 2-2

apalisoc_9

12-23-2017, 03:28 AM

who is winning player of the year this year?

Salah is the story of the year but they probably wont even finish 4th

lefty

12-23-2017, 03:21 PM

Mahrez toying with Smalling on that goal

pgardn

12-24-2017, 11:08 AM

who is winning player of the year this year?

Salah is the story of the year but they probably wont even finish 4th

Harry Kane is about to break Alan Shearer's goal record before the break. It's not even close right now because of Kane's chase. Salah has 3 other guys on his team who will score at anytime. And Tottenham is in the same battle as Liverpool for 4 th spot. If Pogba does not return to form for Man U, I could see, Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Tottenham all vying for the last 3 spots behind dominant MC. It will be interesting. With Tottenham and Arsenal being the most vulnerable if injuries occur. If Sanchez or Kane go down, over for those teams.

apalisoc_9

12-24-2017, 12:44 PM

Harry Kane is about to break Alan Shearer's goal record before the break. It's not even close right now because of Kane's chase. Salah has 3 other guys on his team who will score at anytime. And Tottenham is in the same battle as Liverpool for 4 th spot. If Pogba does not return for Man U, I could see, Man U, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, and Tottenham all vying for the last 3 spots behind dominant MC. It will be interesting. With Tottenham and Arsenal being the most vulnerable if injuries occur. If Sanchez or Kane go down, over for those teams.

harry kane? Groce.

Record his chasing is tied to two seasons not one. Severly overrated. Sanchez has been absoutel ass. I have no idea if you even watch these games

The winner has got to be from man city.

pgardn

12-24-2017, 01:21 PM

harry kane? Groce.

Record his chasing is tied to two seasons not one. Severly overrated. Sanchez has been absoutel ass. I have no idea if you even watch these games

The winner has got to be from man city.

MC has got too many guys but because of consecutive games that would be De Bruyne. Silva is actually having one of his best years. But is getting older and has taken some time off.

Its clear who does not watch these games.

Kane is on a tear, it's his to lose. And of course it's tied to the second half ya Fckn wanker. I'm telling you where it stands NOW. And it's pretty clear if Sanchez does not play on Arsenal they are done. The guy is an ass but he still works his rear off. This will does not go unnoticed. Salah is a very good player on a team with other scorers and guys that set up teammates, this of course presents a problem with him being THE man.

pgardn

12-25-2017, 10:46 AM

pgardn

12-26-2017, 09:00 PM

Kane with another hat trick.

Thanks go out to Del Ali, Ericksen, Son, and the Southampton corner kick marking.
The man is on fire.

lefty

01-01-2018, 12:49 PM

Blonde Mahrez :wow

Canyonero

01-01-2018, 05:41 PM

Blonde Mahrez :wow

Here we call it the "taxi look".

lefty

01-02-2018, 12:01 AM

Here we call it the "taxi look".

Lol

pgardn

01-13-2018, 09:14 AM

9-17 are an amazing 5 pts or less away from relegation.

The battle for the 3 spots behind MC is gonna be great.

Burnley and Leicester City are the only teams kinda stuck in the middle with very little chance of being relegated or moving into the top 4. So basically all the games are critical which is really what is desirable viewing outside of UEFA.

pgardn

01-13-2018, 09:21 AM

Liverpool is going to be very interesting. They lost Philip (best passer and glue). But still have the Eygptian blurr, Mane, and Firmino up front. They gain a huge talent at FB. Big game tomorrow for one of the most exciting, yet vexing teams in the PL.

Chelsea and Man U looking to make moves. Arsenal looks to be losing talent and Spurs standing pat. Good stuff.

lefty

01-13-2018, 11:02 AM

Mahrez guy is pretty good

TheGreatYacht

01-13-2018, 01:30 PM

Get Harry Kane in a Madrid jersey. I'll take Salah and De Bruyne too.

English farmers can keep the rest of their overrated players.

lefty

01-13-2018, 02:23 PM

Get Harry Kane in a Madrid jersey. I'll take Salah and De Bruyne too.

English farmers can keep the rest of their overrated players.
Also Mahrez toyed with Chesky today

Pieces of shit Kakazoki and Vardick wasting his work

pgardn

01-13-2018, 10:59 PM

Get Harry Kane in a Madrid jersey. I'll take Salah and De Bruyne too.

English farmers can keep the rest of their overrated players.

Only one of the three is English.

Take DeGea, Hazard, and yep, Mahrez, while you are at it if you can't stay English. All are very good players forgotten because they are not MC. You guys rooting for teams floating on cash.
Too easy.
Shame.

lefty

01-14-2018, 10:53 AM

resistanze

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lefty

01-14-2018, 12:20 PM

:lol Stones

pgardn

01-14-2018, 01:06 PM

Goalkeeping was really bad.

Liverpool was much sharper in the beginning and that was the difference. MC with a pretty furious comeback though.
And this game illustrates the strengths and weaknesses of both teams. MC pressing early and taking horrible angles with the big speed Liverpool possess. Chamberlain running right thru the middle and scoring because MC takes pressing angles in their own third? No respect for really fast guys Liverpool had up front. Take them on directly instead of shepherding them away from goal and buying time for help?

resistanze

01-14-2018, 03:36 PM

resistanze

952563564694339585

:lol Season was done when they re-signed Wanker in July. Have't watched a full game since.

NASpurs

01-16-2018, 07:30 AM

Walcott going to Everton :lol...

NASpurs

01-16-2018, 07:31 AM

:lol Season was done when they re-signed Wanker in July. Have't watched a full game since.

Same here man, I haven't watched a full game since. It just took the winds out of my sail. I've watched bits and pieces but then I just roll my eyes when I see Arsene and change the channel.

NASpurs

01-16-2018, 07:33 AM

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Ok I'll rewatch if they get Aubameyang and Mkhitaryan. Fuck if I know who Malcolm is. Don't know anything about Ligue 1 wankers.

Canyonero

01-16-2018, 08:01 AM

Alexis to ManU and Mkhitaryan to Arsenal?

pgardn

01-21-2018, 09:41 AM

Still 9 teams within seven points of the current relegation boundary.

Burnley and Leicester adrift in the middle hoping for Europa I guess. Leicester possibly hoping that 3 teams from above take a huge dive.

MC is gone IMO, no catching them.

MU
Chelsea
Liverpool
Spurs
Arsenal

for the last 3 spots.

lefty

01-24-2018, 08:21 PM

Mkhitaryan (2018):"It’s a dream come true because I’ve always dreamed of playing for Arsenal"; Mkhitaryan (2016):“A dream comes true. I always wanted to play for Manchester United"; Mkhitaryan (2013): "It was always my dream to play for Dortmund"

pgardn

01-24-2018, 11:39 PM

Welp.

If Sanchez fits in, Man U is in the top 4 easy.

2 spots left

Chelsea
Liverpool
Spurs
Arsenal

pgardn

01-31-2018, 09:35 PM

Man U just got absolutely taken apart by Spurs.
If Kane had put his weak shots correct this could have been ugly by score as well.
The transfers look like they may take some time to play out. Sanchez was helpless as the Man U midfield was dominated.

The fight for the last 3 just got tighter as Chelsea also gets crushed.

Hoops Czar

02-03-2018, 02:51 PM

Sterling, you piece of shit. :lol A toddler could have kicked that in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Vp6kHRl0gQ

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140

02-04-2018, 01:19 PM

:lol poshittino

140

02-04-2018, 01:21 PM

Wtf :lmao

Hoops Czar

02-04-2018, 04:30 PM

That Tottenham penalty kick in the 95th minute, called by the side ref, may have been the worst call I've ever seen. I give Lamela 1.5/10 on the dive.

lefty

02-04-2018, 04:53 PM

Agreed, that was comical

140

02-04-2018, 05:12 PM

EPL:lolL

ElNono

02-04-2018, 05:47 PM

:lol Today's soccer

dfens

02-05-2018, 01:03 PM

That Tottenham penalty kick in the 95th minute, called by the side ref, may have been the worst call I've ever seen. I give Lamela 1.5/10 on the dive.

lmao with video available too :lmao ass ref was probably drinking before the game. :lmao

that being said that nigga salah is a beast tbh. :wow:wow

lefty

02-05-2018, 05:37 PM

Lulz Chesky

lefty

02-05-2018, 05:54 PM

Janmaat looking like Beckenbauer vs Chelsea lol

Barcelona is gonna have a field day

pgardn

02-05-2018, 10:36 PM

That Tottenham penalty kick in the 95th minute, called by the side ref, may have been the worst call I've ever seen. I give Lamela 1.5/10 on the dive.

He got involved on the yellow card given to Deli Ali as well that was a horrible simulation. The acting was so bad I'd have given him red just because. That being said, Spurs out played Liverpool 2nd half. Salah dancing thru the Spurs fullbacks at the end illustrates how badly the Spurs need Toby A. back. I think Pooch is punishing him further after he declined to resign after his injury. The guy is ready to go and needed. But Pooch fails to play him.

Aside: Wanyama's goal was a Fckn rocket. Salah made Vertoghen look like a fool.

pgardn

02-05-2018, 10:45 PM

Janmaat looking like Beckenbauer vs Chelsea lol

Barcelona is gonna have a field day

They are really awful right now. Conte got $ cut out on transfer signings and seems resigned to the team's fate.
Stop Hazard and Chelsea is useless. Hazard is going to be asking for a move if something does not change drastically in the summer.

As of the last games Man U and Chelsea have got to get it together. Arsenal is right back in the mix IMO.

All of these teams are still so far behind MC, not just in points. Sanchez has got to play a significant role for Man U to stay top 4.

lefty

02-06-2018, 12:37 PM

Yeah barring an earthquake, Citeh should run with the title

ElNono

02-06-2018, 09:55 PM

Pep Jackson

apalisoc_9

02-07-2018, 01:33 AM

Salah is a beast. By far the best individual performance this year. He is scoring, assisting, open up play.

Def the best sand nigga. Lol lefty shitty cousin mahrez

lefty

02-07-2018, 12:02 PM

Salah is a beast. By far the best individual performance this year. He is scoring, assisting, open up play.

Def the best sand nigga. Lol lefty shitty cousin mahrez

Salah is not playing with the Leicester rugbymen

Mahrez is already at 8 goals and 8 assists despite playing with toothless NFL rejects :lol
And he would have way more assists if Vardo and Kokozaki didn't bottle every 2 minutes :lol

Mahrez rang , Salah didn't and won't this season :lol

Canyonero

02-07-2018, 03:48 PM

Mahrez should get revenge at the WC.

Oh wait...

pgardn

02-07-2018, 05:27 PM

Agreed, that was comical

Van Dyk is a big get for Liverpool.

But he gave Lamella the chance to go down by flat out kicking him. He did not even touch the ball. I don't know if Van Dyk could not see him or what but you can't give the other team a chance like this in the box.

Personally, I don't think it was a penalty. But why kick him... That, I can't figure out. The press and managers say...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SG_EwNwEnfA

lefty

02-07-2018, 05:35 PM

Mahrez should get revenge at the WC.

Oh wait...

Hey fuck you

pgardn

02-07-2018, 05:43 PM

Salah is a beast. By far the best individual performance this year. He is scoring, assisting, open up play.

Def the best sand nigga. Lol lefty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896) shitty cousin mahrez

I don't care how much this board disavows Klopp, Salah is an absolute perfect fit for his style. He hustles the entire game, is fast as well as quick and has a very good group to help him out. Mahrez is also a top player on a less talented team. He's not as fast a Salah but is very elusive and has made Vardy's speed relevant. Vardy would be off the team without Mahrez. L City would be in a relegation fight if not for Mahrez. Liverpool was able to sell Couthino because they have Salah who can also handle distribution duties. Van Dyk is on Liverpool because of Salah. This might be enough to get Liverpool top 4. Their back just got better. We will see if Van Dyk can fit in, he has got the talent for sure.

Both Salah and Mahrez are top notch players.

You guys with your country affiliations get tainted.

Right now, it's Harry Kane gonna win it. Despite two bad games that moves Salah closer.

lefty

02-07-2018, 06:38 PM

Hey to be fair, I really like Salah, I'm rooting for him.
Great player, seems to be a good dude.
Hard worker, as a kid in Egypt, he had to take 2 trains everyday so he could play football

pgardn

02-07-2018, 08:27 PM

Hey to be fair, I really like Salah, I'm rooting for him.
Great player, seems to be a good dude.
Hard worker, as a kid in Egypt, he had to take 2 trains everyday so he could play football

I like him as well. Hard worker, no whining, huge talent. Mahrez is amazing as well. I don't know if Mahrez is making a ruckus about leaving, cause I'm sure a bunch of top teams will gladly take him. I don't know his contract situation.

lefty

02-07-2018, 09:43 PM

I like him as well. Hard worker, no whining, huge talent. Mahrez is amazing as well. I don't know if Mahrez is making a ruckus about leaving, cause I'm sure a bunch of top teams will gladly take him. I don't know his contract situation.

I can see why he is upset.
But the winter mercato is over , he should go back to work tbh.

But on the other hand, his strike is a way to put pressure on the FO. Basically, he is saying : "if you want me to play, give me a written guarantee that you won't block my transfer in the upcoming summer"

Hoops Czar

02-11-2018, 12:55 AM

Uh oh pgardn, don't look now but it looks like Kane has a little competition for the golden booty award.

lefty

02-11-2018, 01:23 AM

Uh oh pgardn, don't look now but it looks like Kane has a little competition for the golden booty award.

Aguero and Higuain are incredible when Messi isn't playing with them tbh

Hoops Czar

02-11-2018, 02:46 AM

Aguero and Higuain are incredible when Messi isn't playing with them tbh

Agreed, although I never thought of Aguero as a guy who could strike from outside the box with such venom and accuracy. That 4th goal was purely clinical.

dfens

02-11-2018, 08:47 AM

Aguero and Higuain are incredible when Messi isn't playing with them tbh

but I heard that missi has no help smh :lol

pgardn

02-11-2018, 11:15 PM

Uh oh pgardn (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19184), don't look now but it looks like Kane has a little competition for the golden booty award.

Both scored again.

Tottenham beat their rivals. Kane could have had 3 headers.
Salah got an amazing pass from Firmino, but Salah had already assisted.

Very different players but they got 2 things in common.
1) They both can score and 2) they both are relentless. Kane is one of the hardest working center forwards in the world. Salah looks like he is in heaven playing for Klopp. Salah does not stop. And he appears to be a really good teammate.

Lets give em both a few more years of adulation to turn them into Prima Donnas.

Oh you mean Aguero.... He has such a crappy team around him.

MC is sleepwalking to a title.
Congrats, it's so over.

Amuseddaysleeper

02-19-2018, 05:00 PM

https://i.imgur.com/yB99PnX.jpg

lefty

02-19-2018, 06:42 PM

What happened to our Wigan fan?

Get in here son!!!!

pgardn

02-19-2018, 10:07 PM

What happened to our Wigan fan?

Get in here son!!!!

They won the FA cup one year.

This is a fun contest.
The English FA needs to get rid of that other stupid cup that has a new sponsor name every year. Also Rochdale tied Tottenham on a late equalizer when Toby A. headed the ball directly to a Rochdale player. Now Rochdale will visit Wembley. For a 1st league team in the relegation zone that's an incredible amount of money they will pull in. I can't believe Rochdale are two leagues down and might get relegated to the lowest league that people even keep track off.

Blizzardwizard

02-25-2018, 03:07 PM

What happened to our Wigan fan?

Get in here son!!!!

:king

Wigan still giving City nightmares even in the third division :lol

All those Premier League teams and Champions League teams that cry City are invincible and have too much money to spend :lol

Wigan didn't even field a full-strength side :lol

I certainly enjoyed the train trip back from the game to Manchester Piccadilly on a carriage rammed with grown adults in Aguero shirts on the verge of tears.

For City's sake, Wigan better not return to the Premier League any time soon, (although we'll have to find a way back into the Championship first and foremost :lol).

lefty

02-25-2018, 03:30 PM

:king

Wigan still giving City nightmares even in the third division :lol

All those Premier League teams and Champions League teams that cry City are invincible and have too much money to spend :lol

Wigan didn't even field a full-strength side :lol

I certainly enjoyed the train trip back from the game to Manchester Piccadilly on a carriage rammed with grown adults in Aguero shirts on the verge of tears.

For City's sake, Wigan better not return to the Premier League any time soon, (although we'll have to find a way back into the Championship first and foremost :lol).

My nigguh

pgardn

02-25-2018, 09:14 PM

8 pts separates 9-19 !

Relegation free-for-all. Crazy ass season that has decided a winner long ago.

Man City wins the mighty __________ sponsor cup. The first trophy of the year, Big chap!

Canyonero

03-01-2018, 03:36 PM

Pep with the back to back Arsenal cucking

dfens

03-01-2018, 04:34 PM

Pep with the back to back Arsenal cucking

is this really warranted tbh? arsenal are basically a farm team, what do you expect? a youth wenker team tbh

TDMVPDPOY

03-02-2018, 11:31 PM

wenger the wanker, why do they even bother questioning this clown.....wanker looks like mr.bean man

lefty

03-03-2018, 11:58 AM

:wow Mahrez

pgardn

03-03-2018, 11:58 AM

Fans of Mahrez witness the ability. 96 th minute.
LC so done without this guy.

pgardn

03-03-2018, 11:59 AM

Lefty...

In the house.

lefty

03-03-2018, 12:07 PM

Lefty...

In the house.

Only for Mahrez

And to lol at Arsenal :lol

I wonder if Pep is still gonna have interest in Mahrez in summer
I guess it depends on Bernardo Silva's performances

pgardn

03-03-2018, 02:39 PM

Only for Mahrez

And to lol at Arsenal :lol

I wonder if Pep is still gonna have interest in Mahrez in summer
I guess it depends on Bernardo Silva's performances

So IF the Champions League contains 5 out of 8 teams from the EPL you will only know Leicester City (sitting out).
Christ Lefty... You must prepare for the possibility. With the way Sanchez is performing at Man. U, it looks like Arsenal got the better players in the transfer window right now.

pgardn

03-04-2018, 09:26 AM

Only for Mahrez

And to lol at Arsenal :lol

I wonder if Pep is still gonna have interest in Mahrez in summer
I guess it depends on Bernardo Silva's performances

Aubemayang, Arsenal's big pickup in the front is a loose cannon. He scored a really nice goal so far but the guy is just lost.
I don't really see what he is thinking, could be a cancer. He needs to be slapped. Wenger is just sitting on the bench pouting. Down 2-1 to Brighton and Arsenal could still win the game thru talent but they are rudderless. They can't even form a wall, they are all griping at each other.

So yep, you will get a nice laugh. If not the score, then the players behavior.

lefty

03-04-2018, 11:26 AM

:lol Arsene Mugabe

apalisoc_9

03-04-2018, 12:33 PM

Time for some arsenalfantv :wow

lefty

03-04-2018, 12:36 PM

Time for some arsenalfantv :wow

That shit is always gold

pgardn

03-04-2018, 12:39 PM

Chelsea v. MC

Now I know the reason I don't watch Serie A.
Conte pairing Hazzard up front with no one.
MC scores and we get to watch them play with the ball, Chelsea just begging for a mistake with zero pressure probably until the 85th minute.

pgardn

03-04-2018, 01:01 PM

Okay.

Conte was very subdued during the match and I was wondering wtf?

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/43278166

Understandable.

dfens

03-04-2018, 01:08 PM

lefty

03-04-2018, 02:02 PM

resistanze

03-04-2018, 02:57 PM

:lol Arsene Mugabe

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11545336.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/People-carry-placards-and-react-during-a.jpg

lefty

03-04-2018, 07:40 PM

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article11545336.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/People-carry-placards-and-react-during-a.jpg

:lol wow

pgardn

03-04-2018, 09:08 PM

I can tell you're not watching because ypur assessment is way off

I watched the whole boring thing.

Hazard was lone up front. Conte finally brought on a true forward to hold the ball up
Giroud, and then he subbed Hazard for Morata both incredibly late, past the 80th minute. MC controlled the game and Chelsea let them. Chelsea had maybe 3 shots on goal. Conte sees a superior team and just tried to steal a draw.

Conte sat down most of the game, had almost none of his usual histrionics.

Tell me exactly where I am wrong and what you saw?

In fact tell me if you were watching cause I got some specifics to test you.

pgardn

03-04-2018, 09:18 PM

The game was all MC.
After Siva's goal at the first part of the half Chlsea waited way too long to open up, in fact, they never really did. I was boring as Fck.

pgardn

03-04-2018, 09:26 PM

sons did you see Lazio vs Juventus? Lazio was playing some level AAA thugball :wow:wow

Nope does not surprise me.

Wasnt it Lazio that had the president of Italy to ask the Lazio Ultra leader to let a game go on that was interrupted? I remember the guy sitting on top of the fence during the game like a king while some Italian big wig was pleading to him? Lazio is full of thugs, as bad as the English outside the stadiums.

lefty

03-05-2018, 03:07 AM

I watched the whole boring thing.

Hazard was lone up front. Conte finally brought on a true forward to hold the ball up
Giroud, and then he subbed Hazard for Morata both incredibly late, past the 80th minute. MC controlled the game and Chelsea let them. Chelsea had maybe 3 shots on goal. Conte sees a superior team and just tried to steal a draw.

Conte sat down most of the game, had almost none of his usual histrionics.

Tell me exactly where I am wrong and what you saw?

In fact tell me if you were watching cause I got some specifics to test you.
I was talking about watching Serie A

pgardn

03-05-2018, 08:27 AM

I was talking about watching Serie A

Oh.

sorry ole boy.

You did not make that entirely clear. All I can say since I stopped watching is, 1-0.

In me you got a guy who loves American college "football", basketball, others And....

Appreciates the game of "soccer" played at a hig level. I have been asked to play in leagues, got my "FIFA" knockoff card, and then found out how difficult and great the game is. I was basically asked to play because I can run for 45 minutes, and then do it again after a 10 minute break.

Take away from soccer: The skill level required is off the charts. And add to that, running in a way that can only be compared to basketball without time outs or FThrows. These are the fittest athletes in the world, and at the same time have to have the touch and power that a golfer must have except you gotta remain good while exhausted. The stopping starting, short sprints, longer dedicated runs to fill a gap, and then touching, passing, shooting in 3-d is extraordinaryly difficult. Unlike football, you can't be a huge strong individual and then have a coach find, you make you mean, teach you, and you play one position. I can't see how anyone can start actually playing for the first time with a ball at 16 years old, become good enough to play at the highest levels. (Too much early skill muscle memory involved) Plenty of Americans get this, but give it up at an "early" age to play some other sport. I first kicked a soccer ball at 21 in a league in Austin then San Antonio. No way I could really contribute except on defense, and then I had to go through a learning curve on a different stance than basketball "after nutmegging" and not not being able to use the hands. The easiest thing to learn was heading the ball.
I did become useful in that the fields were gigantic and we played in the summer ((very hot) Guys that grew up with the game were not in the type of shape I was. Few could last a full half with having significant walk time. So I ended up playing entire games. Which aided my running shape and I got to use new muscles. I learned where to be to fill obvious gaps and to harass the opponents best midfielder into giving up the ball. Make him run. Last 15 minutes of each half I could actually do something crude offensively against dead legged opponents.

-Autobiography terminated.

lefty

03-05-2018, 01:00 PM

Long post tbh :lol

Serie A has been one of the highest scoring leagues amongst the top 5 Euro leagues over the last few years.

I think they were even highest scoring league last season or 2 seasons ago.

Napoli is fun to watch.
Fiorentina can play some entertaining football as well.
(RIP Astori by the way)

dfens

03-05-2018, 01:31 PM

dfens

03-05-2018, 01:32 PM

Nope does not surprise me.

Wasnt it Lazio that had the president of Italy to ask the Lazio Ultra leader to let a game go on that was interrupted? I remember the guy sitting on top of the fence during the game like a king while some Italian big wig was pleading to him? Lazio is full of thugs, as bad as the English outside the stadiums.

yes son, lazio is know for being faaaar right.

lefty

03-05-2018, 05:37 PM

crazy to die in your sleep at 31 as a pro footballer smh ...

Yup, really scary tbh

Unless the Mafia was involved

pgardn

03-05-2018, 11:34 PM

crazy to die in your sleep at 31 as a pro footballer smh ...

Yup, really scary tbh

Unless the Mafia was involved

autopsy?
Anything?

Really want to know what happened to the poor guy.
It's not a bad way to go, but at 31... Daughter and wife...

pgardn

03-05-2018, 11:39 PM

yes son, lazio is know for being faaaar right.

They beat up a bunch of Tottenham fans in a bar... Europa cup game about 3-4 years ago. But I don't know who started things. Tottenham fans are usually a bit more mild mannered. If it was Chelsea/ West Ham fans, anything goes.

dfens

03-06-2018, 12:50 PM

They beat up a bunch of Tottenham fans in a bar... Europa cup game about 3-4 years ago. But I don't know who started things. Tottenham fans are usually a bit more mild mannered. If it was Chelsea/ West Ham fans, anything goes.

son these niggas in rome have constant fights with the celerini (riot police) because they enjoy it .. so, don;t know how england is these days but rome is ugly.

lefty

03-06-2018, 08:12 PM

Funny thing is that for years Lazio had a black player named Onazi.

You can't make that stuff up.

dfens

03-07-2018, 12:47 PM

Funny thing is that for years Lazio had a black player named Onazi.

You can't make that stuff up.

:lmao didn't pick that up smh, and I've get to constantly watch lazio/roma since I got business in rome pretty often.

Canyonero

03-08-2018, 11:50 AM

Funny thing is that for years Lazio had a black player named Onazi.

You can't make that stuff up.

Jew are kidding

dfens

03-08-2018, 02:22 PM

Jew are kidding

classy tbh

pgardn

03-10-2018, 09:38 AM

Klopp is a perfect fit for Liverpool football.

He knows eventually they must win something, but in the meantime, they MUST play open football. Their fans demand it. Liverpol lost to MU with the Mourinho system in full display today, but they went down fully attacking. Liverpool must have had ~ 15 corners. Liverpool has a huge presence in China and basically around the world. If Klopp actually wins something with this group, he will be there eternally.

Manchester United. One thing. Just win. If the Mourinho system gets them an EPL title, they are good. Which is daunting for him because he finds himself up against Pep again. They would take a CL championship, but they fully expect to be dominate in the EPL ala the Alex Ferguson manner. I see a long period of disappointment for MU.

lefty

03-10-2018, 10:36 AM

Mane was shite.
Salah was meh

What an assist by Mahrez tbh

pgardn

03-11-2018, 08:54 PM

Kane reinjured his ankle.

Could be out of the WC.
Scans coming.

Luckily for Tottenham the International break might give him time to recover if it's not horrible.
Dont know when the final date for the WC roster is. He is out for upcoming International games most likely.

Tottenham beats Bournemouth 4-1 but showed why Juventus pounced on them. Some utterly horrible play at the back. Toby Aldeweireld injury looks huge now.

MU with a big win. Showed me what it's like to have wings with speed. Young & Valencia (the old guys) are light speed ahead of Davies &Trippier. Shame.

lefty

03-11-2018, 09:14 PM

Kane has the same injury he sustained last season

pgardn

03-11-2018, 09:28 PM

Kane has the same injury he sustained last season

I don't have the scan but this.... Looks bad.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2qtkao1.jpg

lefty

03-11-2018, 11:23 PM

Yikes

dfens

03-13-2018, 09:54 AM

dfens

03-13-2018, 09:55 AM

I don't have the scan but this.... Looks bad.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2qtkao1.jpg

shit son, that's ugly.

pgardn

03-13-2018, 10:21 AM

son it showed you that mourinho is a top class coach (and asshole) who knows how to adapt his team for various tactical situations.

Son...

You gotta have the quality to put quality in the right place. Pooch would play Valencia and Young over Trippier and Davies every day, no brainer. MU can keep or buy who they want, Totttenham can't. So I root for a team that can't buy top players. And if players become too good, you are forced to sell them. You get injured on MC, and your job could be gone because your backup is better than most of the 1st teamers on the vast majority of the league.

And so it goes. This is not unique to the EPL either. Do you have a prediction on what year Bayern will fail to win a Bundesliga title? There are certain aspects of true "competition" you have to accept when rooting for a team that has little history (and 6th place in their own league in financial ability) Just finish top 4 every year before the next move up is remotely possible. (Pull a LC when the league is incredibly bad.)

dfens

03-13-2018, 11:36 AM

Son...

You gotta have the quality to put quality in the right place. Pooch would play Valencia and Young over Trippier and Davies every day, no brainer. MU can keep or buy who they want, Totttenham can't. So I root for a team that can't buy top players. And if players become too good, you are forced to sell them. You get injured on MC, and your job could be gone because your backup is better than most of the 1st teamers on the vast majority of the league.

And so it goes. This is not unique to the EPL either. Do you have a prediction on what year Bayern will fail to win a Bundesliga title? There are certain aspects of true "competition" you have to accept when rooting for a team that has little history (and 6th place in their own league in financial ability) Just finish top 4 every year before the next move up is remotely possible. (Pull a LC when the league is incredibly bad.)

son I feel your pain tbh but valencia and young wouldn't be perfect for all situations.

Also, @ bayern losing stuff, I have always wondered why no big moneybags in germany would invest in a berlin team ... they'd get absolutely monstrous fans/$$$ in marketing/etc while easily tapping the international market from the very undeutsch Berlin. Tbh bayern is the typical bandwagon team in germany and most knowledgeable fans outside of lower bavaria don't really like them. For now red bull is interesting for the future, they might give them trouble with some luck.

Hoops Czar

03-13-2018, 04:27 PM

son it showed you that mourinho is a top class coach (and asshole) who knows how to adapt his team for various tactical situations.

Top class coaches don't get their shit pushed in at home by an average run of the mill La Liga team.

dfens

03-14-2018, 03:29 PM

Top class coaches don't get their shit pushed in at home by an average run of the mill La Liga team.

everybody gets their shit pushed in son. wake the fuck up, that's the reality of sports. Also mourinho's roster is overrated as fuck tbh.

pgardn

03-14-2018, 08:57 PM

son I feel your pain tbh but valencia and young wouldn't be perfect for all situations.

Also, @ bayern losing stuff, I have always wondered why no big moneybags in germany would invest in a berlin team ... they'd get absolutely monstrous fans/$$$ in marketing/etc while easily tapping the international market from the very undeutsch Berlin. Tbh bayern is the typical bandwagon team in germany and most knowledgeable fans outside of lower bavaria don't really like them. For now red bull is interesting for the future, they might give them trouble with some luck.

Here in South Texas the most likely shirts are Barcelona and Real.
I've seen a few MU, Liverpool, & Bayern.

One or two Chelsea and Juventus.

Most likely shirt seen at a "soccer" game, Barcelona with Messi. And it's Not even close. It's Jordanesque.

TheGreatYacht

03-17-2018, 03:01 PM

Salah, Big Dick Naldo, Bale

is that too much to ask for?

lefty

03-17-2018, 03:11 PM

Salah, Big Dick Naldo, Bale

is that too much to ask for?
So 2 RW and 1 LW

WTF man

pgardn

03-17-2018, 05:10 PM

So 2 RW and 1 LW

WTF man

Liverpool plays with Mane, Firmino, and Salah all interchangeable.

But yeah, Salah would have to man the middle in his scenario.

TheGreatYacht

03-17-2018, 05:58 PM

So 2 RW and 1 LW

WTF man
We already play without a striker as it is, tbh.

apalisoc_9

03-17-2018, 06:07 PM

Salah has very clearly been the best individual player this season. His Assist amd Goal ratio is crazy. Hes on pace to break the most goals in a season in the PL in his first damn season.

Canyonero

04-01-2018, 01:34 PM

Manchester derby next week. If Pep beats Mou, City win the title :wow

lefty

04-01-2018, 01:39 PM

Manchester derby next week. If Pep beats Mou, City win the title :wow
Lol they are winning the title anyway

pgardn

04-01-2018, 01:52 PM

Salah has very clearly been the best individual player this season. His Assist amd Goal ratio is crazy. Hes on pace to break the most goals in a season in the PL in his first damn season.

Salah played at Chelsea. Scored 2 goals. He was on the 2014-15 team that won the PL. Its cold in Canada.
This is why Klopp deserves credit. He knew. And he surrounded Salah with the right guys. Possibly the fastest player in the league, Mane, and Firmino with the blinding white teeth. Klopp let Couthino go and then picked up Virgil Van Dyk in the back so now he has his Hummels type defender.

pgardn

04-01-2018, 01:56 PM

Huge win for Tottenham. Took advantage of Courtois being injured. Horrible goalie play by Chelsea. They could have been up 2-0 at the half and sealed it. His replacement made 2 clear errors and 1 error that required quick reactions. All led to goals.

Canyonero

04-01-2018, 02:12 PM

Lol they are winning the title anyway

Yeah but seeing Mou cry is a plus tbh. Too bad they don't play at Old Trafford.

lefty

04-01-2018, 03:13 PM

Yeah but seeing Mou cry is a plus tbh. Too bad they don't play at Old Trafford.

Yup should be entertaining

apalisoc_9

04-04-2018, 06:43 PM

Salah is now involved with 49 goals in 42 games.

38 goals and 11 assist

Stupid white posters

But de bruyne...

These are all time great numbers

pgardn

04-06-2018, 02:18 PM

Salah is now involved with 49 goals in 42 games.

38 goals and 11 assist

Stupid white posters

But de bruyne...

These are all time great numbers

Stupid white posters?

You did not even know Salah played for Chelsea championship team?

As you yourself mentioned before, it helps to be on the team that wins the EPL. But clearly Salah has had by far the best offensive numbers in the EPL, it’s not even close. Add to this, the guy never stops running for Klopp. Salah is a pleasure to watch. So is Liverpool. You don’t know what you will get from them. I would not put it past MC hammering them the next game.

IronMexican

04-07-2018, 12:03 PM

What a play by Gundogan

lefty

04-07-2018, 12:58 PM

Still time left

But CROFL Pep

spursistan

04-07-2018, 01:09 PM

Still time left

But CROFL Pep

Literally the same script with his Bayern teams..They peak early and fizzle in April..He can't pick them up or adjust his tactics once they hit a rough patch..

resistanze

04-07-2018, 01:29 PM

:lol Pep Van Gundy

spursistan

04-07-2018, 01:34 PM

After all that spending and hype, two years on, only thing he has to show for it is the title that Leicester won a couple of years ago :lol

TheGreatYacht

04-07-2018, 01:36 PM

Raheem Sterling is the perfect English player :lmao

Fat, bottler, overpaid, and overrated.

TheGreatYacht

04-07-2018, 01:38 PM

:loltamendi. Can't believe I rated this midget a couple of years ago.

Cant wait for them to throw us their oil money for Varane, so we can go and get Salah and have the best 2 players in the world

lefty

04-07-2018, 01:42 PM

:loltamendi. Can't believe I rated this midget a couple of years ago.

Cant wait for them to throw us their oil money for Varane, so we can go and get Salah and have the best 2 players in the world

Yeah let's turn our defense to shit for a player we don't need

TheGreatYacht

04-07-2018, 02:12 PM

Yeah let's turn our defense to shit for a player we don't need
Have you seen Benshitma? :lol

lefty

04-07-2018, 03:01 PM

Have you seen Benshitma? :lol

I know

But being unbalanced would be even worse

TDMVPDPOY

04-09-2018, 12:16 AM

lol shitsenal needin 3-2 to beat some suburb team...suburb team got robbed though

that midget wilshit, started shit aand the other guy gets sent of for retaliating after getting his jersey pulled for a good 10meters? wtf...shitsenal cooking refs, killed the suburb team momentum pushing forward for equalizer

TDMVPDPOY

04-15-2018, 11:11 AM

lol shitsenal losing to newcastle who now won 4 straight games

wenger the wanker blaming fatigue...what a wanker... 120m spent on 2 shitholes

Canyonero

04-15-2018, 11:46 AM

Congrats Pep.

IronMexican

04-15-2018, 12:47 PM

Without a doubt, Liverpool is a more attractive team to play for than Arsenal.

lefty

04-15-2018, 01:56 PM

Without a doubt, Liverpool is a more attractive team to play for than Arsenal.
Arsenal = headless chicken

spursistan

04-15-2018, 03:23 PM

985561591881093120

TDMVPDPOY

04-15-2018, 08:31 PM

shitsenal brand of football sucks man...its like barcas tic tak bullshit, all that passing but no finisher

apalisoc_9

04-15-2018, 08:48 PM

shitsenal brand of football sucks man...its like barcas tic tak bullshit, all that passing but no finisher

They just have a shit defense.

They need a strong CB and DMF trio. Its honestly surprising how bad teams are at finding two good cbs and a DMF. Thats the true secret to success.

lefty

04-16-2018, 07:15 AM

:cry Mahrez could have won his 2nd title
:lol fuck you Leicester owner

pgardn

04-17-2018, 06:55 AM

Mourinho has again proven his brand of player treatment can lead to very bad displays. Man U was completely afraid of being out of position and making mistakes. The leader of the team sits sulking from the sidelines while the other players blame each other. They played scared to screw up.... With no real leader on the field because no one trusts the coach. This guy must be one of the best coaches at ruining players. They can clearly produce big wins, but along with that the mood creates self-doubt and some really really bad displays. Ferguson knew the whip and carrot, Mourinho only knows the whip.

The guy clearly has a system that can win... Just be aware he can destroy teams and individuals after his desultory habits set in on the team.

pgardn

04-17-2018, 07:01 AM

:cry Mahrez could have won his 2nd title
:lol fuck you Leicester owner

No way Left man.
The league was way way stronger this year.

Mahrez is a really important player. He just needs to be careful to be able to go to a team that he can be featured, that needs his type of play as a focal point. He could get lost on really big teams with an established way of winning.

TDMVPDPOY

04-20-2018, 04:34 AM

wenger the wanker of shitsenal is stepping down after this season apparently...

still shitsenal is going to be shitsenal, while the wanker can go wank off somewhere else...

resistanze

04-21-2018, 01:45 PM

Tottenham - still mental midgets, still allergic to trophies, and Kane is a fraud.

apalisoc_9

04-21-2018, 04:11 PM

Tottenham - still mental midgets, still allergic to trophies, and Kane is a fraud.

Amused said Kane is better than GoatSalah :lol

apalisoc_9

04-22-2018, 08:12 PM

Salah won PFA player of the year. @Amused :lol

pgardn

04-22-2018, 09:12 PM

Tottenham - still mental midgets, still allergic to trophies, and Kane is a fraud.

Kane is playing injured.

MU did a great job bullying Tottenham.
Gotta give Mourinho credit. He saw how the ref called the game and beat up a much less physical team.
8 straight times the bid ends in the semis.
But...

The top 4 is a real possibility for the third year in a row.
For the amount of $ they have to spend compared to what is really the big 5, it’s a huge step up.

pgardn

04-22-2018, 09:16 PM

pgardn

04-22-2018, 09:23 PM

Amused said Kane is better than GoatSalah :lol

Its a horrible comparison.

They play very different roles for their teams. Neither team would want to trade off but Salah is definitely more valuable to an open market. He can do so much. I hope he can repeat his display. And I hope Tottenham catches Liverpool this year.

resistanze

04-22-2018, 09:36 PM

Kane is playing injured.

MU did a great job bullying Tottenham.
Gotta give Mourinho credit. He saw how the ref called the game and beat up a much less physical team.
8 straight times the bid ends in the semis.
But...

The top 4 is a real possibility for the third year in a row.
For the amount of $ they have to spend compared to what is really the big 5, it’s a huge step up.
He shoudln't be playing then, don't care how the backup is. He was inffective completely and I've seen him disappear in big times enough not to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Tottenham needs more than top 4 finishes after the way they've been the last few years; they're just sounding like 2008-2013 Arsenal. Shocking they haven't won a cup in a decade given the style they play.

pgardn

04-22-2018, 11:49 PM

He shoudln't be playing then, don't care how the backup is. He was inffective completely and I've seen him disappear in big times enough not to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Tottenham needs more than top 4 finishes after the way they've been the last few years; they're just sounding like 2008-2013 Arsenal. Shocking they haven't won a cup in a decade given the style they play.

They just don’t have the money. Their style is probably why they have not won. Honestly winning the EPL when the entire league was bad and Leicester city won was a huge chance lost. The other stuff is secondary.
Bale, Modric, .... If you are too good, you leave.

And actually I agree Kane should not have played in this game or the Brighton game. He was ineffective in both. Just leave him on the bench and go without a true CF. They had some success with that in prior games. And if Kane is in form and ineffective in a game, then Erickson or Deli Ali or Son will be effective. Kane is very good at what he does. Strong on the ball, get off quick shots with pace, good speed, good in the air, good at distribution off of gaining longball possession, endless energy on defense. He’s a very nice CF. How long he will be is in doubt because he plays with ankle injuries. Life as a star on a lesser team.

If you are referring to the National Team in disappearances, They are just not good enough the whole way through. And imo their current manager is horrible even though they have had some decent results. I expect Rooney will be granted permission to play on the team eventually.

pgardn

04-28-2018, 08:46 AM

Liverpool is screwing around in the EPL and could lose a spot. At the time of this post they have 2 games left, Chelsea and Spurs have 4. Chelsea still to play Liverpool. Liverpool could find themselves out of the top 4 if they keep up their poor form. They just tied Stoke 0-0 at home and were a Shawcross toepoke away from losing. Mane did not play, Salah had to play the middle with his back to defenders... that’s not effective for this team.

Three draws in the last 4 EPL games against inferior opponents. Only 2 games left and one of those at Chelsea.

dfens

04-28-2018, 02:20 PM

pgardn

04-28-2018, 03:43 PM

they're going all in on the UCL. can't blame them, it's a once in a generation chance for a team like liverpool.

Its a well calculated gamble.

They havd some history of doing well in the CL while not living up to expectations in the English top division.

Its a good thing for Tottenham so I'm fine with it.

TDMVPDPOY

05-06-2018, 08:02 PM

was at the pub for 6hrs to watch mancity final game

then came the liverpool vs chelsea game, pub was getting packed hoping to see something

also shitsenal was also playing, some fkn african clown comes in and wants the worker to put the arsenal game on the big screen where everyone is sitting watching the liverpool game, was 1 vs 100 scenerio, clown kept on hassling the worker..he was drunk also and wanting to fight everyone who was against him to switch the channel, everyone was like wtfgaf about shitsenal and wenger the wanker final game... well that chelsea game ended up being crap match, the shitsenal game finish 5-0...

pgardn

05-09-2018, 10:18 PM

And Tottenham is in the champions league with a horrific 1-0 win over Newcastle. Helped by Huddersfield (away) staying up by tying Chelsea 1-1.

The first time the MIGHTY SPURS HAVE EVER GRADUATED 3 YEARS IN A ROW FROM THE EPL TO THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.

If Deli Ali and Kane’s form are what England gets this summer, they don’t get past the group stage. Kane scored a very cute goal on a great pass but was otherwise not himself today. Kane needs a rest. His ankle continues to hamper his speed, strength, value in the air. He is not close to the same player. Deli Ali has had an overall dissatisfying EPL season.

Eriksen is by far the MVP on Spurs last half.

Anyways, looks like we keep most of the guys the big boys might have wanted. Just hope Eriksen does not get yanked like Modric. I wonder what happens with Danny Rose. He showed nothing to prospective $ spenders with his play after his injury. But Pep swept up Kyle Walker while Rose was better... I don’t even know if Pooch wants Rose back. Rose is another out of form player for England.And He has had plenty of time to get better, well rested.