View Full Version : Do the spurs actually keep the 29th pick?
davi78239
06-01-2017, 07:18 PM
Can u see them trading it for cash or for more future pics? I take it they don't have much money so that's why I wouldn't put it past them. Or draft and stash?
No. Draft picks are more valuable than ever if you draft someone who can contribute in the first three years of their contract.
SAGirl
06-01-2017, 07:39 PM
Keep.
Play Boban
06-01-2017, 07:52 PM
:wakeup
TrainOfThought5
06-01-2017, 08:15 PM
If anything we should be trying to get more picks.
AFBlue
06-01-2017, 09:18 PM
This would be a good year to pick up a value big. So yeah, they'll probably dump it. :lol
dabom
06-01-2017, 09:19 PM
Trade fathead.
TimDunkem
06-01-2017, 09:30 PM
Trade fathead.
I'm all for this. Why waste anymore time on Fathead when you can get another pick to draft a player with more upside? It's not like Fathead is a real factor anyway.
But would any team actually be willing to give up a pick for Q-Tip head? :lol
dabom
06-01-2017, 09:31 PM
I'm all for this. Why waste anymore time on Fathead when you can get another pick to draft a player with more upside? It's not like Fathead is a real factor anyway.
But would any team actually be willing to give up a pick for Q-Tip head? :lol
Hopefully those analytic guys looked at fathead these playoffs. :lol
SilverSpur
06-03-2017, 12:44 PM
Keep it and draft either
Guard - Josh Hart or
Center - Isaiah Hartenstien
sasaint
06-03-2017, 01:10 PM
If anything we should be trying to get more picks.
This.
Darius Bieber
06-03-2017, 01:14 PM
Probably gonna draft Radislava Bromokovovich from some eastern European country anyways
If anything we should be trying to get more picks.
I agree.
Realistic picks at #29 include guard PJ Dozier and center Jonathan Jeanne. Both have very high upsides
Trueblood
06-03-2017, 01:33 PM
I'm all for this. Why waste anymore time on Fathead when you can get another pick to draft a player with more upside? It's not like Fathead is a real factor anyway.
But would any team actually be willing to give up a pick for Q-Tip head? :lol
Remember when the magic leaked a picture of their big board? Anderson was on there as a stretch 4 trade prospect. I say trade him for their second round pick. Still a lot of value in the early second round plus it's a non guaranteed contract so we can stash them if we don't like what we see in summer league.
BackHome
06-03-2017, 01:35 PM
if they pick those two guys then no I don't want them to keep it.
Spurs I think are going to be a part of the trade show this month I hope we can come away with either moving up in draft or extra picks.
ace3g
06-03-2017, 07:10 PM
If anything we should be trying to get more picks.
I think this is the plan.
If we carry two rookies in Multinov and Hanga next year, I can see them moving it. Regardless I like the idea of flipping it for a team with multiple second rounders (like Orlando), but if they carry 2 rooks it'd be good to restock the stash cubboard.
Vic Petro
06-03-2017, 07:20 PM
Especially if they get the sense Paul's interest is real they'll need to fill multiple roster spots with players on rookie or minimum deals.
Especially if they get the sense Paul's interest is real they'll need to fill multiple roster spots with players on rookie or minimum deals.
If the Paul thing gains traction, I'd like to see them try to entice the Clips to do a sign and trade. Pau (assuming opt in) + Green + 29 is better than losing CP3 for nothing, especially since Danny is still an asset. This would allow Spurs to conserve the full MLE and LLE to round out a decent roster.
BatManu20
06-03-2017, 07:25 PM
This is the deepest draft in years. If anything, we should be trying to trade back up into the early 2nd round. Legit talent going to still be available at 29 and into the mid-30's.
BatManu20
06-03-2017, 07:26 PM
Keep it and draft either
Guard - Josh Hart or
Center - Isaiah Hartenstien
Hartenstein will be long gone by the time we pick imo. Hart will likely be there, and I'd like the pick, but I think we take a big man at 29, as there is most depth at that position.
wildbill2u
06-05-2017, 05:08 PM
They ususally keep it since nobody wants it. The percentage of players drafted 29th who even suit up for an NBA team is pretty small. That's why the Spurs usually use it on a foreign player they don't have to bring over or pay. And the competition for those foreign players is getting hot these days since the Spurs were so successful scouting that market.
DPG21920
06-05-2017, 05:52 PM
Unless they package it for a better pick or to dump someone yes. Hopefully Jordan Bell is there
I'd happily trade 29 + Kyle to Orlando for 33 and 35.
That'd give Orlando three 1st rounders, and us a chance to get two bites at the apple in the same range.
BG_Spurs_Fan
06-06-2017, 03:37 AM
I'd happily trade 29 + Kyle to Orlando for 33 and 35.
That'd give Orlando three 1st rounders, and us a chance to get two bites at the apple in the same range.
Signing 2nd round picks would require cap space or money from exceptions. I don't think it's likely they go this route.
cd021
06-06-2017, 09:06 AM
I'd happily trade 29 + Kyle to Orlando for 33 and 35.
That'd give Orlando three 1st rounders, and us a chance to get two bites at the apple in the same range.
Anderson for the 33rd and 35th picks, maybe but Anderson and the 29th for 33 and 35 is a silly trade for the spurs.
29th for 33 and 35 might be an option for the reason that you mentioned, consolidating picks the the Magic and gives the spurs two solid picks (Bell and Frank Jackson would probably be my picks)
Chinook
06-06-2017, 09:16 AM
Signing 2nd round picks would require cap space or money from exceptions. I don't think it's likely they go this route.
As poor of an idea that I think this push to trade Kyle for a second-rounder is, the money is not a big deal. Most second-rounders take min deals, and those will be available long after cap space and other exceptions are used. The proposed trade would save the Spurs quite a bit of cap space ($2.5M-4.5M)
BG_Spurs_Fan
06-06-2017, 09:21 AM
As poor of an idea that I think this push to trade Kyle for a second-rounder is, the money is not a big deal. Most second-rounders take min deals, and those will be available long after cap space and other exceptions are used. The proposed trade would save the Spurs quite a bit of cap space ($2.5M-4.5M)
Sure, unless they pull a KJ McDaniels and sign the tender.
cd021
06-06-2017, 09:30 AM
If the Paul thing gains traction, I'd like to see them try to entice the Clips to do a sign and trade. Pau (assuming opt in) + Green + 29 is better than losing CP3 for nothing, especially since Danny is still an asset. This would allow Spurs to conserve the full MLE and LLE to round out a decent roster.
Spurs could do Pau + Forbes + 2018 1st in a S&T that would allow the Spurs to offer a contract starting around $30.4 million to CP3 and keep Green+ have access to the full MLE and LLE. Simmons is likely gone because they could only use the MLE to keep him but Manu might return to ring chase with CP3 in the fold or Milutinov and Hanga both come aboard. I think PATFO would hate to lose Green and CP3 would probably agree, i'm sure that Green has earned Pauls respect over the years as his primary defender and his rep as one of the best 3 and D players in the NBA.
Clippers get Pau, who they could potentially flip later in the season to a playoff team, and a 1st rounder (which is rare in S&T's. Obviously that's not great for them but it's certainly better than nothing.
PG-CP3-Murray-Parker
SG-Green-Manu
SF-Leonard-Anderson
PF-Adridge-Bertans
C-Lee-FA/1st Rounder (Bell?)-Milutinov
-(he seems like he will return, despite hopefully opting out of his P.O)
would prefer Bertans to start at PF and LMA at center in that scenario. CP3 would have 3 elite shooters surrounding the pick and pop with Aldridge and gives Leonard a lot of space to operate as well (CP3 shot 41% on 5 3's a game last season)
Trade fathead.
:lol Pop loves Fathead. You'd have to put a gun to his head to trade his poor man's BoBo.
Play Boban
06-06-2017, 11:21 AM
Probably gonna draft Radislava Bromokovovich from some eastern European country anyways
:wow
Play Boban
06-06-2017, 11:23 AM
They ususally keep it since nobody wants it. The percentage of players drafted 29th who even suit up for an NBA team is pretty small. That's why the Spurs usually use it on a foreign player they don't have to bring over or pay. And the competition for those foreign players is getting hot these days since the Spurs were so successful scouting that market.
Yep, good take. The chances of anyone outside the lottery having a productive NBA career is really small, in actuality.
Anderson for the 33rd and 35th picks, maybe but Anderson and the 29th for 33 and 35 is a silly trade for the spurs.
29th for 33 and 35 might be an option for the reason that you mentioned, consolidating picks the the Magic and gives the spurs two solid picks (Bell and Frank Jackson would probably be my picks)
You think 29 alone gets it done for 33 and 35?
cd021
06-06-2017, 08:27 PM
It would depend on whether they like someone in that range that may not be there four spots later and would be willing to through in the second pick to make it happen.
I don't like the idea of trading Anderson +29 to move back in the draft. Anderson actually played well last season and had a strong postseason despite him being generally hated on ST. I expect him to continue to improve in year 4 and Pop clearly likes his game so I doubt that they would move him in that scenario.
Spurs could do Pau + Forbes + 2018 1st in a S&T that would allow the Spurs to offer a contract starting around $30.4 million to CP3 and keep Green+ have access to the full MLE and LLE. Simmons is likely gone because they could only use the MLE to keep him but Manu might return to ring chase with CP3 in the fold or Milutinov and Hanga both come aboard. I think PATFO would hate to lose Green and CP3 would probably agree, i'm sure that Green has earned Pauls respect over the years as his primary defender and his rep as one of the best 3 and D players in the NBA.
Clippers get Pau, who they could potentially flip later in the season to a playoff team, and a 1st rounder (which is rare in S&T's. Obviously that's not great for them but it's certainly better than nothing.
PG-CP3-Murray-Parker
SG-Green-Manu
SF-Leonard-Anderson
PF-Adridge-Bertans
C-Lee-FA/1st Rounder (Bell?)-Milutinov
-(he seems like he will return, despite hopefully opting out of his P.O)
would prefer Bertans to start at PF and LMA at center in that scenario. CP3 would have 3 elite shooters surrounding the pick and pop with Aldridge and gives Leonard a lot of space to operate as well (CP3 shot 41% on 5 3's a game last season)
I agree; Clips probably have too much ego to do it, but considering they have zero picks in this coming draft, one would think they'd welcome a future 1st.
SAGirl
06-06-2017, 08:48 PM
It would depend on whether they like someone in that range that may not be there four spots later and would be willing to through in the second pick to make it happen.
I don't like the idea of trading Anderson +29 to move back in the draft. Anderson actually played well last season and had a strong postseason despite him being generally hated on ST. I expect him to continue to improve in year 4 and Pop clearly likes his game so I doubt that they would move him in that scenario.
Yes. This would be obvious to anyone who is not a troll.
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