Kathy Griffin is being bullied by the Trumps [Archive]

ducks

06-02-2017, 02:21 PM

I rember the rodeo clown put the former president on the barrel like all presidents
he got canned and could not get a job
cnn fired her not trump
she said she was sorry but now she is blaming trump? all he did is say barron especially who is 11 had a hard time with her picture. What 11 year old would not. If it was hillarys head instead of trump I still think it is wrong and she should be in trouble.

I respected the office of the president I did not respect Omama as a person I do however think everyone should respect the office of the president

ducks

06-02-2017, 02:21 PM

I wonder what she looks like nude.

she is not that great looking

ducks

06-02-2017, 02:23 PM

I am not sure why the pic is controversial!
SHE SAID IT WAS OVER THE TOP!

Thread

06-02-2017, 02:30 PM

I am not sure why the pic is controversial!
SHE SAID IT WAS OVER THE TOP!

Let's say you or I did that. Firstly, they'd ferret us out and then just beat the wholly shit out of us taking us into custody. They'd make a example out of us. Her, or, other famous people? Nope. They're handled with kid gloves.

Thread

06-02-2017, 02:31 PM

I rember the rodeo clown put the former president on the barrel like all presidents
he got canned and could not get a job
[[[cnn fired her not trump]]]
she said she was sorry but now she is blaming trump? all he did is say barron especially who is 11 had a hard time with her picture. What 11 year old would not. If it was hillarys head instead of trump I still think it is wrong and she should be in trouble.

I respected the office of the president I did not respect Omama as a person I do however think everyone should respect the office of the president

Has CNN actually fired her, or, is she suspended. Big difference.

ducks

06-02-2017, 02:36 PM

cnn said fired
http://www.tmz.com/2017/05/31/kathy-griffin-fired-cnn-new-years-eve/

DMC

06-02-2017, 02:37 PM

kathy griffin has been the main story on fox for about 3 days now

important news!

The news is that you still live with your parents and have to hide out in your bedroom to avoid seeing Fox News.

Thread

06-02-2017, 02:37 PM

cnn said fired
http://www.tmz.com/2017/05/31/kathy-griffin-fired-cnn-new-years-eve/

They'll sneak her back in.

spurraider21

06-02-2017, 02:41 PM

The news is that you still live with your parents and have to hide out in your bedroom to avoid seeing Fox News.thats not news

:wow omg a student staying at home with his parents when his school is 15 miles away :wow... yeah maybe i should just tack on more loans so i could be a big baller and rent a shitty apartment so i can brag on ST about it. that would be the smart thing to do

TSA

06-02-2017, 02:46 PM

The news is that you still live with your parents and have to hide out in your bedroom to avoid seeing Fox News.

"Daaaaaad....turn down Tucker I'm trying to study for the baaaaaaaar"

DMC

06-02-2017, 02:51 PM

"Daaaaaad....turn down Tucker I'm trying to study for the baaaaaaaar"

NO no no...

Philo would be more like "can that TV be any louder? Now I know you're going to claim I just said it was too loud, 'get your own place if you don't like it'.. 'go out sometimes'.. 'take a shower, that will drown it out'...but technically I didn't say it was too loud so your argument has no merit"

DarrinS

06-02-2017, 02:52 PM

kathy griffin has been the main story on fox for about 3 days now

important news!

Covfefe

DMC

06-02-2017, 02:53 PM

thats not news

:wow omg a student staying at home with his parents when his school is 15 miles away :wow... yeah maybe i should just tack on more loans so i could be a big baller and rent a shitty apartment so i can brag on ST about it. that would be the smart thing to do
OMG playing the student card when you live with mom and dad after you've graduated fucking law school.

:lol immigrants. Pretty soon you'll own a 7-11 and the rest of the fam can go to school as well, and move out of your bedroom.

DMC

06-02-2017, 02:54 PM

Covfefe

It's amazing how talk to text translates "coverage" when you're taking a shit.

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 02:54 PM

Covfefe

trump president not kathy griffin

spurraider21

06-02-2017, 02:57 PM

OMG playing the student card when you live with mom and dad after you've graduated fucking law school.

:lol immigrants. Pretty soon you'll own a 7-11 and the rest of the fam can go to school as well, and move out of your bedroom.OMG playing the student card when i graduated 2 weeks ago and am not licensed to work

DMC

06-02-2017, 02:58 PM

OMG playing the student card when i graduated 2 weeks ago and am not licensed to work

:lol can't get a normal job like everyone else so he sits at home philo posting on ST all day. ":lol I'm holding out for a CEO position"

spurraider21

06-02-2017, 03:00 PM

:lol can't get a normal job like everyone else so he sits at home philo posting on ST all day. ":lol I'm holding out for a CEO position"
no, i'm literally not licensed to practice as an attorney until i pass the bar. that's a matter of legality, not selectivity... and bar prep takes up about 70 hours a week

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 03:01 PM

:lol can't get a normal job like everyone else so he sits at home philo posting on ST all day. ":lol I'm holding out for a CEO position"

bitter old man mocks law grad half his age for not pulling up his bootstraps and working as a movie theater usher like he did

SnakeBoy

06-02-2017, 03:02 PM

Why is there such a double standard? Nugent talks about killing Trump and Clinton and he gets an invite to the Trump's White House. Trumptards like to whine about PC but then go nuts about Kathy Griffin.

Where's the double standard? Liberals were outraged by Nugent, still are apparently.

spurraider21

06-02-2017, 03:02 PM

Where's the double standard? Liberals were outraged by Nugent, still are apparently.double standard is conservatives losing their shit over kathy griffin (3+ days of bickering) and not giving a shit about nugent

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 03:03 PM

Where's the double standard? Liberals were outraged by Nugent, still are apparently.

whats it like to not know what a double standard is at your age

DMC

06-02-2017, 03:03 PM

bitter old man mocks law grad half his age for not pulling up his bootstraps and working as a movie theater usher like he did

So?

SnakeBoy

06-02-2017, 03:06 PM

double standard is conservatives losing their shit over kathy griffin (3+ days of bickering) and not giving a shit about nugent

Liberals lose their shit over Nugent and don't give a shit about any of the shit said about Trump. It's not a double standard, just politics as usual.

but okay :cryhypocrisy:cry

spurraider21

06-02-2017, 03:07 PM

Spurminator

06-02-2017, 03:08 PM

Liberals lose their shit over Nugent and don't give a shit about any of the shit said about Trump. It's not a double standard, just politics as usual.

but okay :cryhypocrisy:cry

What are you talking about? She was roundly criticized by both sides, apologized, and was fired by CNN.

Nugent doubled down, never apologized, and was invited on the campaign trail and the White House.

You're inventing equivalency where it doesn't exist.

baseline bum

06-02-2017, 03:08 PM

Liberals lose their shit over Nugent and don't give a shit about any of the shit said about Trump. It's not a double standard, just politics as usual.

but okay :cryhypocrisy:cry

Pretty much everyone on both sides of the aisle was bitching at Griffin. Not surprising Trump would have someone like Nugent over to the White House though since our Dear Leader talked about assassinating Clinton too.

Reck

06-02-2017, 03:09 PM

kathy griffin has been the main story on fox for about 3 days now

important news!

Grown ups avoiding responsibility. LOL

Not that they covered the real news anyways.

SnakeBoy

06-02-2017, 03:10 PM

no, i'm literally not licensed to practice as an attorney until i pass the bar. that's a matter of legality, not selectivity... and bar prep takes up about 70 hours a week

Damn 70 hours per week for bar prep and 80 hours per week for spurstalk...you a hardworkin mofo.

spurraider21

06-02-2017, 03:10 PM

Damn 70 hours per week for bar prep and 80 hours per week for spurstalk...you a hardworkin mofo.yep and that still leaves 18 hours per week for sleep :tu

baseline bum

06-02-2017, 03:11 PM

Damn 70 hours per week for bar prep and 80 hours per week for spurstalk...you a hardworkin mofo.

Why have you gotten so cunty this year? Your guy won.

Reck

06-02-2017, 03:17 PM

Why have you gotten so cunty this year? Your guy won.

Trump won. That doesn't really translate to his own supporters. lol

Most of his dumbass supporters dont even know half the shit he's executing his way through is actually fucking his own base.

Must be nice to have a group of people you can fuck sans vaseline and then thank you for it. :lol

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 03:19 PM

bitterness is a coping mechanism for trump supporters who realize they backed a human dumpster fire and have lost many of their friends

SnakeBoy

06-02-2017, 03:21 PM

Why have you gotten so cunty this year? Your guy won.

What are you talking about? I've always been cunty.

DMC

06-02-2017, 03:33 PM

Liberals lose their shit over Nugent and don't give a shit about any of the shit said about Trump. It's not a double standard, just politics as usual.

but okay :cryhypocrisy:cry

liberals didnt condemn griffin?
did liberal news stations run the ted nugent story for 3 consecutive days as their lead?

Hypocrisy is a circle that points back to itself from any perspective. No matter how you try go put chicken before egg, the circle is unbroken.

DMC

06-02-2017, 03:34 PM

bitterness is a coping mechanism for trump supporters who realize they backed a human dumpster fire and have lost many of their friends

Apathy is the next stage, it's where Clinton supporters are now knowing they supported a sham who couldn't beat a reality TV figure like Trump.

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 03:38 PM

Apathy is the next stage, it's where Clinton supporters are now knowing they supported a sham who couldn't beat a reality TV figure like Trump.

yeah if theres one word id use to describe libs right now its apathy

lol how is it none of you faggots have above a 7th grade reading level?

spurraider21

06-02-2017, 03:39 PM

Hypocrisy is a circle that points back to itself from any perspective. No matter how you try go put chicken before egg, the circle is unbroken.if the left largely condemned griffin while the right failed to condemn nugent, that analogy doesn't work

DMC

06-02-2017, 03:48 PM

if the left largely condemned griffin while the right failed to condemn nugent, that analogy doesn't work

Or if everything is an illusion and nothing really exists, what then?

monosylab1k

06-02-2017, 03:49 PM

What are you talking about? She was roundly criticized by both sides, apologized, and was fired by CNN.

Nugent doubled down, never apologized, and was invited on the campaign trail and the White House.

You're inventing equivalency where it doesn't exist.

And per usual, posts like this are avoided like the plague.

spurraider21

06-02-2017, 03:51 PM

Or if everything is an illusion and nothing really exists, what then?
https://thoughtcatalog.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/screen-shot-2014-04-17-at-3-12-10-pm.png?w=584&h=406

monosylab1k

06-02-2017, 03:53 PM

Or if everything is an illusion and nothing really exists, what then?

:lmao

DMC

06-02-2017, 03:55 PM

yeah if theres one word id use to describe libs right now its apathy

lol how is it none of you faggots have above a 7th grade reading level?

It's not the Libs, it's the Dems. Libs were more on board with that old Bernie faggot who got cucked and they just bent over and took it and lost anyhow. Then they painted their hair and stood around in front of colleges smoking and pretending to be upset while taking selfies. Dems disconnected not long after the loss. Those were the Hillary supporters. I realize you're playing a schtick where you don't have much of an education but try to keep your schtick in line.

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 03:59 PM

It's not the Libs, it's the Dems. Libs were more on board with that old Bernie faggot who got cucked and they just bent over and took it and lost anyhow. Then they painted their hair and stood around in front of colleges smoking and pretending to be upset while taking selfies. Dems disconnected not long after the loss. Those were the Hillary supporters. I realize you're playing a schtick where you don't have much of an education but try to keep your schtick in line.

there is nothing apathetic about dems or libs right now

have you been asleep for 4 months?

DMC

06-02-2017, 04:02 PM

there is nothing apathetic about dems or libs right now

have you been asleep for 4 months?

If you read CNN daily you'd think your take is correct. The reality is the flyover states and areas are full of democrats and they don't give a shit. You think Hollywood and some college kids are representative of the USA? Isn't that why Hillary lost in the 1st place?

Never learn, even as an alt.

baseline bum

06-02-2017, 04:02 PM

What are you talking about? She was roundly criticized by both sides, apologized, and was fired by CNN.

Nugent doubled down, never apologized, and was invited on the campaign trail and the White House.

You're inventing equivalency where it doesn't exist.

It's what he has been doing the entire year to try to paint Trump as normal. It's funny because he used to pretend to hate Trump back when no one thought he'd actually win.

hater

06-02-2017, 04:04 PM

Lame bitch shuda doubled down and not apologize

She fucked up

Now she playing the victim? :lmao

Pussy

Just double down and say it was art and free speech

Now you get the horns biatch

baseline bum

06-02-2017, 04:06 PM

Lame bitch shuda doubled down and not apologize

She fucked up

Now she playing the victim? :lmao

Pussy

Just double down and say it was art and free speech

Now you get the horns biatch

Pretty much

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 04:09 PM

If you read CNN daily you'd think your take is correct. The reality is the flyover states and areas are full of democrats and they don't give a shit. You think Hollywood and some college kids are representative of the USA? Isn't that why Hillary lost in the 1st place?

Never learn, even as an alt.

"derr elitist out of touch liberal elites" yeah great input tucker carlson

were you asleep when a district seat in kansas where republicans outnumber dems 2-1 and where trump won by 31% ended up being a 7 point race only a few months later?

are you paying attention to georgia right now?

did you see the marches in the flyover states?

have you talked to humans in real life and not online from your mountain bunker?

you dont know shit about whats really happening. you can call dems/libs a lot of things right now but calling them apathetic is fucking retarded.

DMC

06-02-2017, 04:18 PM

"derr elitist out of touch liberal elites" yeah great input tucker carlson

were you asleep when a district seat in kansas where republicans outnumber dems 2-1 and where trump won by 31% ended up being a 7 point race only a few months later?

are you paying attention to georgia right now?

did you see the marches in the flyover states?

have you talked to humans in real life and not online from your mountain bunker?

you dont know shit about whats really happening. you can call dems/libs a lot of things right now but calling them apathetic is fucking retarded.

mountain bunker sounds pretty cool.

If you've been alive long enough, you know it's a pendulum and the bulk of it is made up of people who don't do much on the political scene besides vote. One side wins, the other appears fired up and most of that fizzles by the mid terms. You'll have talking heads and some celebs still yapping, you'll have faggots like you on nowhere forums like this pretending you're politically savvy because you click links in threads and read articles, and you'll see the mid terms don't really change the landscape much, if any at all. Then you'll start looking toward the next presidential election and Hillary will become more and more attractive to you again.

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 04:25 PM

mountain bunker sounds pretty cool.

If you've been alive long enough, you know it's a pendulum and the bulk of it is made up of people who don't do much on the political scene besides vote. One side wins, the other appears fired up and most of that fizzles by the mid terms. You'll have talking heads and some celebs still yapping, you'll have faggots like you on nowhere forums like this pretending you're politically savvy because you click links in threads and read articles, and you'll see the mid terms don't really change the landscape much, if any at all. Then you'll start looking toward the next presidential election and Hillary will become more and more attractive to you again.

so what youre saying is theyre not apathetic right now but they will be. thank you for clarifying and admitting your original post was bullshit.

DMC

06-02-2017, 04:42 PM

so what youre saying is theyre not apathetic right now but they will be. thank you for clarifying and admitting your original post was bullshit.

No, they are. "They" being the bulk of the voters, not the activist social media whores you likely associate with. You just don't realize it yet because you're naive, probably never been very far outside of Dallas and likely married young and are the subservient one in the relationship.

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 05:54 PM

No, they are. "They" being the bulk of the voters, not the activist social media whores you likely associate with. You just don't realize it yet because you're naive, probably never been very far outside of Dallas and likely married young and are the subservient one in the relationship.

like the voters in ks and ga that i already mentioned? face it, youre talking out of your ass. your argument is "nuh uh this is how things are because i say so.". you dont know shit.

SnakeBoy

06-02-2017, 05:58 PM

You just don't realize it yet because you're naive, probably never been very far outside of Dallas and likely married young and are the subservient one in the relationship.

I thought he was ChumpDumper

Chris

06-02-2017, 06:00 PM

Why ain't Madonner under the same SS investigation?

She might as well have diplomatic immunity. She's a top witch in the elite's coven.

Chris

06-02-2017, 06:09 PM

mountain bunker sounds pretty cool.

If you've been alive long enough, you know it's a pendulum and the bulk of it is made up of people who don't do much on the political scene besides vote. One side wins, the other appears fired up and most of that fizzles by the mid terms. You'll have talking heads and some celebs still yapping, you'll have faggots like you on nowhere forums like this pretending you're politically savvy because you click links in threads and read articles, and you'll see the mid terms don't really change the landscape much, if any at all. Then you'll start looking toward the next presidential election and Hillary will become more and more attractive to you again.

DMC dropping bombs on Libtards :lol

https://m.popkey.co/e288be/3e0dk.gif

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 06:11 PM

lol applause from tardburg im sure hes thrilled and super validated

spurraider21

06-02-2017, 06:36 PM

Why ain't Madonner under the same SS investigation?
http://www.wnd.com/2017/01/secret-service-opens-investigation-into-madonna-threat/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/01/22/report-secret-service-investigate-madonna-blowing-white-house-comment/

SnakeBoy

06-02-2017, 06:36 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAGv2LAfnng

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 06:41 PM

"vote for me or kathy griffin wins"

how embarrassing it must be for these pathetic tools to represent you in elected office

spurraider21

06-02-2017, 06:54 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAGv2LAfnng
:lmao john ossoff = berkley antifa faggots and kathy griffin

:cry why does all his funding come from outside the state
:cry why are all the mean liberals in this video also from outside the state

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 06:56 PM

if accurate, all that 95% means is the koch bros musta decided to sit this one out

DMC

06-02-2017, 08:09 PM

like the voters in ks and ga that i already mentioned? face it, youre talking out of your ass. your argument is "nuh uh this is how things are because i say so.". you dont know shit.

You lost. How much motivation do these people have, even during an election, that you'd lose to Donald Trump of all people?

Do you even think before you post this gibberish queer shit?

boutons_deux

06-02-2017, 08:18 PM

Fox News lets Ted Nugent call in to claim his invitation for Obama to “suck on my machine gun” wasn’t a threat

Nugent: Inviting Obama to “suck on my machine gun” was “just an outrageous metaphor.”

https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2017/06/02/fox-news-lets-ted-nugent-call-claim-his-invitation-obama-suck-my-machine-gun-wasn-t-threat/216769?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+mediamatters%2Fresearch+%28Me dia+Matters+for+America+-+Research%29

ducks

06-02-2017, 08:20 PM

http://www.dailywire.com/news/17113/kathy-griffin-december-2016-thats-president-piece-hank-berrien?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=060217-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand

She called trump shit she a very bad girl

DarrinS

06-02-2017, 08:49 PM

Fuck Ted Nugent, too, btw.

Xevious

06-02-2017, 09:21 PM

I don't give two shits about Griffin. She's never been funny. But the fact that Trump and his family routinely get triggered by comics, SNL, late night show hosts, etc is far more disturbing than anything Griffin did.

baseline bum

06-02-2017, 09:31 PM

The best part of this story is 11 year-old Barron Trump thinking that was daddy's head Griffin was holding.

baseline bum

06-02-2017, 09:34 PM

I don't give two shits about Griffin. She's never been funny.

Yeah man, she's just loud and annoying, and probably my least favorite comic I have ever seen.

baseline bum

06-02-2017, 09:35 PM

Fuck Ted Nugent, too, btw.

Nugent has one good song, and Pantera's version is better anyways. :lol

DarrinS

06-02-2017, 09:47 PM

Nugent has one good song, and Pantera's version is better anyways. :lol

Stranglehold is better than Car Scratch Fever, imho.

Adam Lambert

06-02-2017, 10:12 PM

You lost. How much motivation do these people have, even during an election, that you'd lose to Donald Trump of all people?

Do you even think before you post this gibberish queer shit?

so now were talking about pre election apathy? because you specifically were talking about post election apathy before.

try to keep up with your own bullshit takes, faggot.

Xevious

06-02-2017, 10:34 PM

Yeah man, she's just loud and annoying, and probably my least favorite comic I have ever seen.

I couldn't even stand the episodes of Seinfeld she was on, and I loved that show.

baseline bum

06-02-2017, 10:40 PM

I couldn't even stand the episodes of Seinfeld she was on, and I loved that show.

I would have beat the shit out of her over that god damn bbq sauce tbh.

DMC

06-02-2017, 11:06 PM

so now were talking about pre election apathy? because you specifically were talking about post election apathy before.

try to keep up with your own bullshit takes, faggot.

Why does it have to be mutually exclusive? You had a lack of motivation before, during and after the election, and somehow you think it's going to ramp up?

And you wonder why you lost.

Xevious

06-02-2017, 11:18 PM

I would have beat the shit out of her over that god damn bbq sauce tbh.

:lol

monosylab1k

06-02-2017, 11:34 PM

Yeah man, she's just loud and annoying, and probably my least favorite comic I have ever seen.

Her story about Jon Hamm was hilarious, tbh. Not because of her, but because of how Jon Hamm treated her :lol

IronMexican

06-03-2017, 01:39 AM

OMG playing the student card when i graduated 2 weeks ago and am not licensed to work

Grats bruh

TeyshaBlue

06-03-2017, 01:53 AM

Kathy Griffin playing the victim card. :rolleyes

Adam Lambert

06-03-2017, 09:30 AM

Why does it have to be mutually exclusive? You had a lack of motivation before, during and after the election, and somehow you think it's going to ramp up?

And you wonder why you lost.

your post:

Apathy is the next stage, it's where Clinton supporters are now knowing they supported a sham who couldn't beat a reality TV figure like Trump.

so you went from
dems are apathetic because theyre ashamed about hillary

to
dems will always be apathetic regardless of their candidate, just ignore whats happening right now because theyll cool off

is it alzheimers or are you just this terrible at maintaining a point?

Reck

06-03-2017, 12:17 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAGv2LAfnng

LMAO they're desperate.

Ossoff is going to win even harder now.

Reck

06-03-2017, 12:21 PM

DMC

06-04-2017, 01:46 AM

your post:

so you went from
dems are apathetic because theyre ashamed about hillary

to
dems will always be apathetic regardless of their candidate, just ignore whats happening right now because theyll cool off

is it alzheimers or are you just this terrible at maintaining a point?

Some of you lack good reading skills. It's right there in the posts you quoted but you're too shallow to see it, maybe it's abstract and out of your league but let me help you...

"lack of motivation" /= "apathy".

The common schtick here by shit trolls like you is to pretend there are only the extreme ends of a position, no gradient. That's me giving you undue credit for not being a total retard who lacks capacity for abstract thought. You're basically Th'Pusher with a more social agenda, probably married or dated across racial lines to convince others you're not a racist. Even your alt shit takes don't hide the queer in you.

DMC

06-04-2017, 01:50 AM

:lmao

DMC always gets into debates, gets beat and then changes his stance because the last one doesn't work for him anymore.

Fat fingers stays losing. :lol

Says the Hillary supporter :lol

Reck

06-04-2017, 02:12 AM

Says the Hillary supporter :lol

Wow. Only took you half the day to come up with such a devasting line of attack. I surrender. :claw :lma

DMC

06-04-2017, 02:35 AM

Wow. Only took you half the day to come up with such a devasting line of attack. I surrender. :claw :lma

I'm not surprised. You probably never stood your ground once in your life, except in a video game.

Reck

06-04-2017, 02:54 AM

I'm not surprised. You probably never stood your ground once in your life, except in a video game.

:lmao

I can smell the losery from here.

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 08:57 AM

Some of you lack good reading skills. It's right there in the posts you quoted but you're too shallow to see it, maybe it's abstract and out of your league but let me help you...

"lack of motivation" /= "apathy".

The common schtick here by shit trolls like you is to pretend there are only the extreme ends of a position, no gradient. That's me giving you undue credit for not being a total retard who lacks capacity for abstract thought. You're basically Th'Pusher with a more social agenda, probably married or dated across racial lines to convince others you're not a racist. Even your alt shit takes don't hide the queer in you.

This is particularly rich coming from you. Remind us of your views advocating absolutely no forced wealth transfer.

Adam Lambert

06-04-2017, 09:26 AM

Why does it have to be mutually exclusive? You had a lack of motivation before, during and after the election, and somehow you think it's going to ramp up?

And you wonder why you lost.

Some of you lack good reading skills. It's right there in the posts you quoted but you're too shallow to see it, maybe it's abstract and out of your league but let me help you...

"lack of motivation" /= "apathy".

The common schtick here by shit trolls like you is to pretend there are only the extreme ends of a position, no gradient. That's me giving you undue credit for not being a total retard who lacks capacity for abstract thought. You're basically Th'Pusher with a more social agenda, probably married or dated across racial lines to convince others you're not a racist. Even your alt shit takes don't hide the queer in you.

dictionary definition of apathy is "lack of interest, enthusiasm or concern." its cool with me if you need to psychoanalyze me to distract you from your mental deterioration but whether im a troll or not youre getting your shit pushed in. but please, entertain us more with your 6th grade rust cohle "im so deep maaaan" act.

DMC

06-04-2017, 11:30 AM

This is particularly rich coming from you. Remind us of your views advocating absolutely no forced wealth transfer.

As soon as you define your terms "forced" and "wealth" and "transfer" because you'll play every angle otherwise, like you tried to do with the claim that profit isn't the best motivator for drug discovery then every response thereafter was centered around profit driven industry doing things for profit.

DMC

06-04-2017, 11:37 AM

dictionary definition of apathy is "lack of interest, enthusiasm or concern." its cool with me if you need to psychoanalyze me to distract you from your mental deterioration but whether im a troll or not youre getting your shit pushed in. but please, entertain us more with your 6th grade rust cohle "im so deep maaaan" act.
So if you don't go to the gym today but you feel like you should, are you apathetic or just unmotivated? Did you notice the words "lack of motivation" in there anywhere?

Gradient...

Get your learn on, son.

I wasn't psychoanalyzing you. I was typecasting you. Another learning gap rears its ugly head. Unless you're ready to talk about your dreams and shit, that is.

btw, :lol you didn't disagree with me.

:lol "us"

DMC

06-04-2017, 11:40 AM

:lmao

I can smell the losery from here.

If I was as close to you as you are, I could as well.

Reck

06-04-2017, 11:52 AM

If I was as close to you as you are, I could as well.

Oh shut the fuck up. You're boring as fuck. Your schticks are pathetic even for koolaid standards.

DMC

06-04-2017, 11:56 AM

Oh shut the fuck up. You're boring as fuck. Your schticks are pathetic even for koolaid standards.

:lol you keep responding, can't stay away.

http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/avatars/148/198/673.png

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 12:19 PM

As soon as you define your terms "forced" and "wealth" and "transfer" because you'll play every angle otherwise, like you tried to do with the claim that profit isn't the best motivator for drug discovery then every response thereafter was centered around profit driven industry doing things for profit.

Remember when you posted that graph of new chemical entities by country as evidence that the profit motive was an effective driver of innovation in the modern pharmaceutical industry?

:lol

DMC

06-04-2017, 12:32 PM

Remember when you posted that graph of new chemical entities by country as evidence that the profit motive was an effective driver of innovation in the modern pharmaceutical industry?

:lol

I remember you submitting that profit was the motivation for drug discovery, you just said it was ineffective but couldn't provide an example of a more effective one. When you tried though, you ended up just shifting the cost to the taxpayer, yet bigPharm was still profiting.

Reck

06-04-2017, 12:34 PM

:lol you keep responding, can't stay away.

http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/avatars/148/198/673.png

Getting shit on on multiple fronts. :lol

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 12:36 PM

I remember you submitting that profit was the motivation for drug discovery, you just said it was ineffective but couldn't provide an example of a more effective one. When you tried though, you ended up just shifting the cost to the taxpayer, yet bigPharm was still profiting.
So you don't remember that stupid chart you posted as "empirical evidence" for your ridiculous argument?

:lol

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 12:38 PM

I remember it. It was embarrassingly stupid

:lol

DMC

06-04-2017, 12:56 PM

Getting shit on on multiple fronts. :lol

:lol quitting the forum
:lol welching
:lol Hillary supporter

DMC

06-04-2017, 01:16 PM

So you don't remember that stupid chart you posted as "empirical evidence" for your ridiculous argument?

:lol

I remember it. It was embarrassingly stupid

:lol

I recall you saying it wasn't taxpayer funded, it was government funded - that it was better for bigPharm to have a consortium but stopped short of defining "better" when in reality you meant it would make them more profits if the taxpayers took on the financial burden of R&D for private pharma industry.. as if somehow this entity called government has an income separate from tax revenue.

I recall you lost, again.

So go cherry-pick a phrase or graph and present it out of context again. Maybe you'll get a +1.

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 01:29 PM

I recall you saying it wasn't taxpayer funded, it was government funded - that it was better for bigPharm to have a consortium but stopped short of defining "better" when in reality you meant it would make them more profits if the taxpayers took on the financial burden of R&D for private pharma industry.. as if somehow this entity called government has an income separate from tax revenue.

I recall you lost, again.

So go cherry-pick a phrase or graph and present it out of context again. Maybe you'll get a +1.

You don't remember well. My argument was around mitigating technical risk through a number of potential methods. You just glommed onto the one that was taxpayer funded as it suits your government is the problem narrative.

You posted that stupid chart and emphatically said how's that for empirical evidence in an effort to argue socialist countries weren't innovating new drugs :lol out of context.

DMC

06-04-2017, 01:38 PM

You don't remember well. My argument was around mitigating technical risk through a number of potential methods. You just glommed onto the one that was taxpayer funded as it suits your government is the problem narrative.

You posted that stupid chart and emphatically said how's that for empirical evidence in an effort to argue socialist countries weren't innovating new drugs :lol out of context.

Technical risk = financial risk

Number of potential methods = taxpayer funded consortium

Never once did you provide the alternative incentive for new drug development, not once.

And you lost already... :lol let it go.

You have the hardest time letting go when you've lost. Just like the CHL discussion when you didn't know the difference between the law and the license.

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 01:43 PM

Never once did you provide the alternative incentive for new drug development, not once.

Don't need to. Doesn't change the fact that the profit motive disincentives new innovation and encourages evergreening.

:lol that chart tho.

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 01:46 PM

:lol empirical evidence

DMC

06-04-2017, 02:00 PM

Don't need to. Doesn't change the fact that the profit motive disincentives new innovation and encourages evergreening.

:lol that chart tho.

On Monday, Margaret Chan, the director general of the World Health Organization, condemned the pharmaceutical industry for neglecting to create a vaccine for the Ebola virus, even though the disease has threatened West Africa for almost 40 years.

“Ebola emerged nearly four decades ago,” Chan said in an address to the Regional Committee for Africa in Benin. “Why are clinicians still empty-handed, with no vaccines and no cure?”

Chan blamed this on big pharma–quite simply, there is no incentive for drug companies to make something that won’t be profitable. “Because Ebola has historically been confined to poor African nations. The R&D [Research and Development] incentive is virtually non-existent,” she said. “A profit-driven industry does not invest in products for markets that cannot pay. WHO has been trying to make this issue visible for ages. Now people can see for themselves.”

Basically, if Ebola cure was profitable, then bigPharma would have developed it by the writing of this article.

Ergo - profit is the driver for drug development. Saying it disincentivizes development is wrong. Profit is the incentive, you can't legislate concern for humanity. If your statement was correct, profitability would steer companies away from development. There would be no incentive to develop drugs in fear of profits.

Perhaps what you mean is that it thwarts non-profitable development. That's not the same as saying profit motive thwarts development - when in reality it's the only reason for development. That doesn't mean it should be the only reason, but it is.

Maybe if you could work on expressing your thoughts in a more cogent manner, pages and pages of meaningless banter could be avoided.

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 02:19 PM

On Monday, Margaret Chan, the director general of the World Health Organization, condemned the pharmaceutical industry for neglecting to create a vaccine for the Ebola virus, even though the disease has threatened West Africa for almost 40 years.

“Ebola emerged nearly four decades ago,” Chan said in an address to the Regional Committee for Africa in Benin. “Why are clinicians still empty-handed, with no vaccines and no cure?”

Chan blamed this on big pharma–quite simply, there is no incentive for drug companies to make something that won’t be profitable. “Because Ebola has historically been confined to poor African nations. The R&D [Research and Development] incentive is virtually non-existent,” she said. “A profit-driven industry does not invest in products for markets that cannot pay. WHO has been trying to make this issue visible for ages. Now people can see for themselves.”

Basically, if Ebola cure was profitable, then bigPharma would have developed it by the writing of this article.

Ergo - profit is the driver for drug development. Saying it disincentivizes development is wrong. Profit is the incentive, you can't legislate concern for humanity. If your statement was correct, profitability would steer companies away from development. There would be no incentive to develop drugs in fear of profits.

Perhaps what you mean is that it thwarts non-profitable development. That's not the same as saying profit motive thwarts development - when in reality it's the only reason for development. That doesn't mean it should be the only reason, but it is.

Maybe if you could work on expressing your thoughts in a more cogent manner, pages and pages of meaningless banter could be avoided.

Nope. The profit motive incentivises evergreening at the expense of new product development. That was the argument and it's 100% accurate.

:lol but that fucking chart

:lol

DMC

06-04-2017, 02:26 PM

Nope. The profit motive incentivises evergreening at the expense of new product development. That was the argument and it's 100% accurate.

:lol but that fucking chart

:lol
Argument by repetition/assertion :cry

Everything that causes people to chose one road over another is at the expense of the other road. What's your alternative?

The chart was to show you that profit driven industry has produced more drug discoveries than anything else. Why hasn't the socialist system created an Ebola cure? Why did the WHO director focus on profit driven industry? Why can't Africa fix its own problems? Oh I know, because no one wants to invest in it because it not PROFITABLE.

Keep running - stay ignorant.

Turd Pusher, when you push him, a turd is produced.

Here's another piece that clearly defines the motive... from all participants.

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2010/11/04/where_drugs_come_from_the_numbers

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 02:36 PM

The chart was to show you that profit driven industry has produced more drug discoveries than anything else.

:lol no it wasn't. It was shown in an attempt to argue non democratic socialist countries are more innovative than socially democratic countries...and it was fucking stupid.

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 02:39 PM

Here's another piece that clearly defines the motive... from all participants.

http://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2010/11/04/where_drugs_come_from_the_numbers

Never argued it wasn't the motive. The argument was that it was not an effective driver of innovation.

You don't even know what my argument was, so fuck off.

DMC

06-04-2017, 02:49 PM

:lol no it wasn't. It was shown in an attempt to argue non democratic socialist countries are more innovative than socially democratic countries...and it was fucking stupid.

:lol no

DMC

06-04-2017, 02:56 PM

Never argued it wasn't the motive. The argument was that it was not an effective driver of innovation.

You don't even know what my argument was, so fuck off.

You're all over the place. There is either innovation or there isn't. Since there is, and the only driver is profit, then it's effective. I challenged you to provide a more effective motivator but you cannot - even now.

You didn't stop there. You said it disincentivizes development, meaning the fear of profit keeps companies away from development. That's just stupid. While it might be true that development is overly dependant on profit driven endeavors and it would be nice if people just gave their time for the sake of mankind without any such motive, it's not reality. Perhaps in your line of work reality isn't that important.

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 03:41 PM

You're all over the place. There is either innovation or there isn't. Since there is, and the only driver is profit, then it's effective. I challenged you to provide a more effective motivator but you cannot - even now.

You didn't stop there. You said it disincentivizes development, meaning the fear of profit keeps companies away from development. That's just stupid. While it might be true that development is overly dependant on profit driven endeavors and it would be nice if people just gave their time for the sake of mankind without any such motive, it's not reality. Perhaps in your line of work reality isn't that important.

Again, the profit motive incentivises evergreening at the expense of new product development. I can't help you anymore if you don't understand this basic argument.

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 03:42 PM

:lol no

If I cared enough I'd go find the original post with "the chart". :lol

DMC

06-04-2017, 03:56 PM

Again, the profit motive incentivises evergreening at the expense of new product development. I can't help you anymore if you don't understand this basic argument.

Evergreening is more profitable right now for companies with large portfolios. However for universities and biotech, novelty introductions are still more profitable. Both are profit motives.

It's like saying the taste of unhealthy food causes people to choose it over more healthy dishes, at the expense of their health, therefore taste disincentivizes eating healthy. See how silly that sounds, since people eat healthy for reasons other than taste? What other reasons do companies have to develop products other than profit?

Let's say Merck develops a cure for Ebola tonight. What are the long term implications for Merck if they give it away to 3rd world countries? What are the implications for those countries? So they no longer have fear of Ebola outbreak, do they not have richer, more fulfilling lives? Do they start farming and raising cattle and stop butchering each other? Probably not. For Merck, do they go into a financial crisis over it since it's all given away? What other drug developments are put on hold to fund it?

This shit doesn't happen in a vacuum. Your "shit money" answer doesn't work in reality, with adults.

If I cared enough I'd go find the original post with "the chart". :lol

You just cared enough to bring it up half a dozen times, and yet again.

:lol playing the "don't care" card after two pages of caring.

Th'Pusher

06-04-2017, 04:05 PM

Evergreening is more profitable right now for companies with large portfolios.

So if companies are spending money to evergreen existing products they're not spending it on new product development. Thanks for proving my point. :tu

DMC

06-04-2017, 11:24 PM

So if companies are spending money to evergreen existing products they're not spending it on new product development. Thanks for proving my point. :tu

If they are buying lunch for their employees, they aren't spending that money on new product development. Free lunch disincentivizes new drug discovery.

If evergreening makes more money, you cannot consider it a net negative where funding is concerned for either evergreening or new product development. Cost vs reward is higher for evergreening, meaning the more they put into it the more they get out of it, and yet somehow new product development still gets funded. How would it be funded otherwise once the low hanging fruit are picked? Taxpayers... err... I mean... government money? Show me a socialist entity spending all their money on new product development and actually developing new products, we can discuss it.

TDMVPDPOY

06-05-2017, 02:50 AM

why would bigpharma and biotech release a cure if that disease is a money making Ponzi scheme for them?

even if there is a cure, some big company would come by give you a offer u cant refuse, so they buy you out and wont release the cure to continue milking the industry...

Adam Lambert

06-05-2017, 09:16 PM

Spurminator

06-05-2017, 09:27 PM

If Ossoff doesn't win I hope they find the reason was that he turned people off by spamming their email inboxes a dozen times a day.

DMC

06-05-2017, 09:43 PM

det apathy

871913133333413890

:lol you have no idea how to read those models.

Reck

06-05-2017, 09:51 PM

:lol you have no idea how to read those models.

DMC getting raped. Day 3. :lol

I bet you think the red means leading. Cuck Jr. :lol

DMC

06-05-2017, 10:06 PM

DMC getting raped. Day 3. :lol

I bet you think the red means leading. Cuck Jr. :lol
You already had one premature ejaculation with Hillary. You might want to sit this one out, Wizard.

Reck

06-05-2017, 10:12 PM

You already had one premature ejaculation with Hillary. You might want to sit this one out, Wizard.

What do you think calling me a Hillary supporter accomplishes? Besides making you look like a faggot who cant even come up with witty attacks.

Hey you're a wizard. Hillary supporter.

What a moron.

DMC

06-05-2017, 10:31 PM

What do you think calling me a Hillary supporter accomplishes? Besides making you look like a faggot who cant even come up with witty attacks.

Hey you're a wizard. Hillary supporter.

What a moron.

Bro, stop pumping yourself up. Pennsylvania is not a player.

Obama did the same thing in the closing days.

Michigan or Pennsylvania aren't teh states she should be nervous of. It's places like New Hampshire and maybe Colorado.

In fact, Hillary's campaign is going to wrap up their campaign in places where she will win with certainty.
How Clinton lost 'blue wall' states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/09/how-clinton-lost-blue-wall-states-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin/93572020/

That's called protecting your firewall. Her average lead there is almost 5 points.

Oh and she just went up in Florida again. RCP has her average at 1.5 after being down the whole of this week.
Trump wins Florida, a crucial victory

:lmao

Quick, do some more of your election prophecies! :lol:lol

TSA

06-05-2017, 10:33 PM

:lol

"I'm heading back up to the NBA forum"

SnakeBoy

06-05-2017, 10:36 PM

Quick, do some more of your election prophecies! :lol:lol

:lol

Tbh my gut tells me the Dems should win GA-6 since it isn't a very Trump friendly district but the more Reck predicts victory the more I think the GOP will win given his track record.

Reck

06-05-2017, 10:39 PM

How Clinton lost 'blue wall' states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin

http://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2016/11/09/how-clinton-lost-blue-wall-states-michigan-pennsylvania-wisconsin/93572020/

Trump wins Florida, a crucial victory

:lmao

Quick, do some more of your election prophecies! :lol:lol

Holy shit I got you doing searching on me. Rent free faggot. :lmao

That still doesn't accomplish anything. It makes you look petty and retarded.

Now go look up more posts I've made in the past to proof just how much I'm not in your head. :lol

Adam Lambert

06-05-2017, 10:48 PM

Tbh my gut tells me the Dems should win GA-6 since it isn't a very Trump friendly district

republicans have held that seat since 2002

DMC

06-05-2017, 10:58 PM

Holy shit I got you doing searching on me. Rent free faggot. :lmao

That still doesn't accomplish anything. It makes you look petty and retarded.

Now go look up more posts I've made in the past to proof just how much I'm not in your head. :lol

:lol follows me around interjecting
:lol says he's in my head
:lol maybe I am imagining it

Reck

06-05-2017, 11:08 PM

:lol follows me around interjecting
:lol says he's in my head
:lol maybe I am imagining it

hey fat ass, you just spent 30 minutes researching me. :lmao work that math out you creepy old fag.

SnakeBoy

06-06-2017, 03:19 AM

republicans have held that seat since 2002

Trump only won that district by a point or so. If Dems can't pick off that seat with all they are throwing at it then 2018 is looking bleak for them.

SnakeBoy

06-06-2017, 03:21 AM

hey fat ass, you just spent 30 minutes researching me. :lmao work that math out you creepy old fag.

Why would it take 30 minutes to look up a few of your Hillary loving posts?

Thread

06-06-2017, 03:55 AM

Trump only won that district by a point or so. If Dems can't pick off that seat with all they are throwing at it then 2018 is looking bleak for them.

We're throwing just as much (if not more). If we cannot hold this then we're white bread.

DMC

06-06-2017, 05:47 PM

Why would it take 30 minutes to look up a few of your Hillary loving posts?

Not to mention my prior post was like 10 minutes earlier. :lol Shadowflaming faggot.

Reck

06-06-2017, 06:47 PM

Why would it take 30 minutes to look up a few of your Hillary loving posts?

You always ask stupid questions.

Reck

06-06-2017, 06:57 PM

Not to mention my prior post was like 10 minutes earlier. :lol Shadowflaming faggot.

Oh it was more than "10 minutes" fattie. Minimising the fact you're obssessed with me and the fact I live in that empty head of yours is prove enough.

:cry but you're wizard
:cry but you're a hillary supporter
:cry you work for the CIA
:cry i'm fat and you're so in shape
:cry be gay for me ps

:lmao

TSA

06-06-2017, 07:23 PM

I used to think they were misspellings maybe from a spellchecker on a phone but the constant misuse of words, phrases/grammar has me leaning of Asian decent. Anytime I read his posts and can't figure out what he's trying to say I read them in a broken Chinese accent and usually figure them out.

Anyone figured out what country of origin the forum dunce is from?

Reck

06-06-2017, 07:26 PM