Wills: Trump disabled & the 25th amendment

[RandomGuy]

At what point in the senility curve do we seriously consider invoking the 25th amendment?


Political commentator George Will in his latest column blasts President Trump as someone who is not able to "think and speak clearly."

"It is urgent for Americans to think and speak clearly about President Trump’s inability to do either," Will wrote in The Washington Post.

"This seems to be not a mere disinclination but a disability. It is not merely the result of intellectual sloth but of an untrained mind bereft of information and married to stratospheric self-confidence."

In the column, Will pointed to the president's comments about Frederick Douglass and his recent remarks about Andrew Jackson.

Trump in an interview published earlier this week questioned why the country had a Civil War and suggested Jackson could have prevented it had he served later. Jackson, the nation's seventh president, died in 1845. The Civil War began in 1861.

"Library shelves groan beneath the weight of books asking questions about that war’s origins, so who, one wonders, are these 'people' who don’t ask the questions that Trump evidently thinks have occurred to him uniquely?" Will asked.

"What is most alarming (and mortifying to the University of Pennsylvania, from which he graduated) is not that Trump has entered his eighth decade unscathed by even elementary knowledge about the nation’s history," he continued.

"As this column has said before, the problem isn’t that he does not know this or that, or that he does not know that he does not know this or that. Rather, the dangerous thing is that he does not know what it is to know something."

Will went on to criticize Trump for some of the comments he made before assuming the presidency, pointing to his remarks on the nuclear triad and the "one China policy."

Will warned that Americans have put "vast military power at the discretion of this mind."

"So, it is up to the public to quarantine this presidency," he wrote, "by insistently communicating to its elected representatives a steady, rational fear of this man whose combination of impulsivity and credulity render him uniquely unfit to take the nation into a military conflict."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/331882-george-will-trump-disabled-by-inability-to-think-speak-clearly


Section 1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.[3]

I don't see the Republican party that puts its best interest ahead of the country having the stones to make the hard call, but given Trump's age and health, we should be at least preparing for this risk.



Symptoms of dementia
If you or your loved one is experiencing memory problems, don’t immediately conclude that it’s dementia. A person needs to have at least two types of impairment that significantly interfere with everyday life to receive a dementia diagnosis.

In addition to difficulty remembering, the person may also experience impairments in:

language
communication
focus
reasoning
1. Subtle short-term memory changes
Trouble with memory can be an early symptom of dementia. The changes are often subtle and tend to involve short-term memory. An older person may be able to remember events that took place years ago but not what they had for breakfast.

Other symptoms of changes in short-term memory include forgetting where they left an item, struggling to remember why they entered a particular room, or forgetting what they were supposed to do on any given day.


2. Difficulty finding the right words
Another early symptom of dementia is struggling to communicate thoughts. A person with dementia may have difficulty explaining something or finding the right words to express themselves. Having a conversation with a person who has dementia can be difficult, and it may take longer than usual to conclude.

3. Changes in mood
A change in mood is also common with dementia. If you have dementia, it isn’t always easy to recognize this in yourself, but you may notice this change in someone else. Depression, for instance, is typical of early dementia.

Along with mood changes, you might also see a shift in personality. One typical type of personality change seen with dementia is a shift from being shy to outgoing. This is because the condition often affects judgment.

4. Apathy
Apathy, or listlessness, commonly occurs in early dementia. A person with symptoms could lose interest in hobbies or activities. They may not want to go out anymore or do anything fun. They may lose interest in spending time with friends and family, and they may seem emotionally flat.

5. Difficulty completing normal tasks
A subtle shift in the ability to complete normal tasks may indicate that someone has early dementia. This usually starts with difficulty doing more complex tasks like balancing a checkbook or playing games that have a lot of rules.

Along with the struggle to complete familiar tasks, they may struggle to learn how to do new things or follow new routines.

6. Confusion
Someone in the early stages of dementia may often become confused. When memory, thinking, or judgment lapses, confusion may arise as they can no longer remember faces, find the right words, or interact with people normally.

Confusion can occur for a number of reasons and apply to different situations. For example, they may misplace their car keys, forget what comes next in the day, or have difficulty remembering someone they’ve met before.

7. Difficulty following storylines
Difficulty following storylines may occur due to early dementia. This is a classic early symptom.

Just as finding and using the right words becomes difficult, people with dementia sometimes forget the meanings of words they hear or struggle to follow along with conversations or TV programs.

8. A failing sense of direction
The sense of direction and spatial orientation commonly starts to deteriorate with the onset of dementia. This can mean not recognizing once-familiar landmarks and forgetting regularly used directions. It also becomes more difficult to follow a series of directions and step-by-step instructions.

9. Being repetitive
Repetition is common in dementia because of memory loss and general behavioral changes. The person may repeat daily tasks, such as shaving, or they may collect items obsessively.

They also may repeat the same questions in a conversation after they’ve been answered.

10. Struggling to adapt to change
For someone in the early stages of dementia, the experience can cause fear. Suddenly, they can’t remember people they know or follow what others are saying. They can’t remember why they went to the store, and they get lost on the way home.

Because of this, they might crave routine and be afraid to try new experiences. Difficulty adapting to change is also a typical symptom of early dementia.

[RandomGuy]

I get more deductions, I mean I can tell you this, I get more deductions, they have deductions for birds flying across America, they have deductions for everything. There are more deductions … now you’re going to get an interest deduction, and a charitable deduction. But we’re not going to have all this nonsense that they have right now that complicates things and makes it … you know when we put out that one page, I said, we should really put out a, you know, a big thing, and then I looked at the one page, honestly it’s pretty well covered. Hard to believe.

https://www.vox.com/2017/5/11/15622900/trump-economist-interview

[RandomGuy]

(Economist)Mr President, can I just try you on a deal-making question? If you do need Democratic support for your tax plan, your ideal tax plan, and the price of that the Democrats say is for you to release your tax returns, would you do that?

(Trump) I don’t know. That’s a very interesting question. I doubt it. I doubt it. Because they’re not going to … nobody cares about my tax return except for the reporters. Oh, at some point I’ll release them. Maybe I’ll release them after I’m finished because I’m very proud of them actually. I did a good job.

Hope Hicks [White House director of strategic communication]: Once the audit is over.

President Trump: I might release them after I’m out of office.

Can't keep his lies straight.

[spurraider21]

he's an idiot, but not mentally disabled to the point that the 25th amendment even remotely applies

this is just bullshit that hurts the credibility of your cause more than anything else

[RandomGuy]

(Economist)But beyond that it’s OK if the tax plan increases the deficit?

(Trump)It is OK, because it won’t increase it for long. You may have two years where you’ll … you understand the expression “prime the pump”?

Yes.

We have to prime the pump.

It’s very Keynesian.

We’re the highest-taxed nation in the world. Have you heard that expression before, for this particular type of an event?

Priming the pump?

Yeah, have you heard it?

Yes.


(Trump)Have you heard that expression used before? Because I haven’t heard it. I mean, I just … I came up with it a couple of days ago and I thought it was good. It’s what you have to do.

[RandomGuy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpb80t1XYAAv-xJ.jpg

[RandomGuy]

he's an idiot, but not mentally disabled to the point that the 25th amendment even remotely applies

this is just bullshit that hurts the credibility of your cause more than anything else

How would you recognize a level of impairment that would rise to the level that you would be concerned?

[RandomGuy]

Symptoms of dementia
If you or your loved one is experiencing memory problems, don’t immediately conclude that it’s dementia. A person needs to have at least two types of impairment that significantly interfere with everyday life to receive a dementia diagnosis.

In addition to difficulty remembering, the person may also experience impairments in:

language
communication
focus
reasoning
1. Subtle short-term memory changes
Trouble with memory can be an early symptom of dementia. The changes are often subtle and tend to involve short-term memory. An older person may be able to remember events that took place years ago but not what they had for breakfast.

Other symptoms of changes in short-term memory include forgetting where they left an item, struggling to remember why they entered a particular room, or forgetting what they were supposed to do on any given day.


2. Difficulty finding the right words
Another early symptom of dementia is struggling to communicate thoughts. A person with dementia may have difficulty explaining something or finding the right words to express themselves. Having a conversation with a person who has dementia can be difficult, and it may take longer than usual to conclude.

3. Changes in mood
A change in mood is also common with dementia. If you have dementia, it isn’t always easy to recognize this in yourself, but you may notice this change in someone else. Depression, for instance, is typical of early dementia.

Along with mood changes, you might also see a shift in personality. One typical type of personality change seen with dementia is a shift from being shy to outgoing. This is because the condition often affects judgment.

4. Apathy
Apathy, or listlessness, commonly occurs in early dementia. A person with symptoms could lose interest in hobbies or activities. They may not want to go out anymore or do anything fun. They may lose interest in spending time with friends and family, and they may seem emotionally flat.

5. Difficulty completing normal tasks
A subtle shift in the ability to complete normal tasks may indicate that someone has early dementia. This usually starts with difficulty doing more complex tasks like balancing a checkbook or playing games that have a lot of rules.

Along with the struggle to complete familiar tasks, they may struggle to learn how to do new things or follow new routines.

6. Confusion
Someone in the early stages of dementia may often become confused. When memory, thinking, or judgment lapses, confusion may arise as they can no longer remember faces, find the right words, or interact with people normally.

Confusion can occur for a number of reasons and apply to different situations. For example, they may misplace their car keys, forget what comes next in the day, or have difficulty remembering someone they’ve met before.

7. Difficulty following storylines
Difficulty following storylines may occur due to early dementia. This is a classic early symptom.

Just as finding and using the right words becomes difficult, people with dementia sometimes forget the meanings of words they hear or struggle to follow along with conversations or TV programs.

8. A failing sense of direction
The sense of direction and spatial orientation commonly starts to deteriorate with the onset of dementia. This can mean not recognizing once-familiar landmarks and forgetting regularly used directions. It also becomes more difficult to follow a series of directions and step-by-step instructions.

9. Being repetitive
Repetition is common in dementia because of memory loss and general behavioral changes. The person may repeat daily tasks, such as shaving, or they may collect items obsessively.

They also may repeat the same questions in a conversation after they’ve been answered.

10. Struggling to adapt to change
For someone in the early stages of dementia, the experience can cause fear. Suddenly, they can’t remember people they know or follow what others are saying. They can’t remember why they went to the store, and they get lost on the way home.

Because of this, they might crave routine and be afraid to try new experiences. Difficulty adapting to change is also a typical symptom of early dementia.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs will NOT impeach their boy Trash.

Dems write up the articles, Repug House votes them down. GAMEOVER

Mueller, NY AG, etc will have to find hard evidence that Trash committed felony (ies), like money laundering for the Russians, etc.

Then maybe just maybe the Repugs might impeach AND convict. maybe ...

Obama was "lawless"? :lol

Benghazi? :lol

[RandomGuy]

2. Difficulty finding the right words
Another early symptom of dementia is struggling to communicate thoughts. A person with dementia may have difficulty explaining something or finding the right words to express themselves. Having a conversation with a person who has dementia can be difficult, and it may take longer than usual to conclude.


Putin has built up their military again and again and again. Their military is much stronger. He’s doing nuclear, we’re not doing anything. Our nuclear is old and tired and his nuclear is tippy-top from what I hear. Better be careful, folks, okay? You better be careful.” -President Trump

[RandomGuy]

7. Difficulty following storylines
Difficulty following storylines may occur due to early dementia. This is a classic early symptom.

Just as finding and using the right words becomes difficult, people with dementia sometimes forget the meanings of words they hear or struggle to follow along with conversations or TV programs.



Conversations with some officials who have briefed Trump and others who are aware of how he absorbs information portray a president with a short attention span.

He likes single-page memos and visual aids like maps, charts, graphs and photos.

National Security Council officials have strategically included Trump's name in "as many paragraphs as we can because he keeps reading if he's mentioned," according to one source, who relayed conversations he had with NSC officials.

[RandomGuy]

Repugs will NOT impeach their boy Trash.

Dems write up the articles, Repug House votes them down. GAMEOVER

Mueller, NY AG, etc will have to find hard evidence that Trash committed felony (ies), like money laundering for the Russians, etc.

Then maybe just maybe the Repugs might impeach AND convict. maybe ...

Obama was "lawless"? :lol

Benghazi? :lol

I'm not talking about impeachment. I am talking about removing someone who is genuinely mentally impaired.

[TSA]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster

[baseline bum]

You can't impeach someone for being a shithead.

[boutons_deux]

I'm not talking about impeachment. I am talking about removing someone who is genuinely mentally impaired.

There are plenty of head/brain professionals who would go along with that.

anyway, this ain't gonna happen:

"Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide,"

Shrinks are risking losing their licenses to practice by coming out, breaking the Goldwater rule, with their diagnoses of Trash as having a fucked brain.

Some have said his narcissistic pathology is known to be incurable.

[leemajors]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster

You just haven't been the same since CuckingFunt quit posting tbh

[DarrinS]

This thread :lol

[SnakeBoy]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster

He used to ridicule preppers and now he is arming himself in preparation for Trumpocalypse...it's sad.

[spurraider21]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster
nah that was a while ago when he was spamming melania pictures

[Adam Lambert]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster

youre thinking of the pizzagate thread

[Adam Lambert]

and fuck the 25th amendment, let this shithead drag down the GOP with him for 4 years. theyre toast in 2018 and finished completely in 2020

[SnakeBoy]

and fuck the 25th amendment, let this shithead drag down the GOP with him for 4 years. theyre toast in 2018 and finished completely in 2020

predicting permanent Democratic rule again? Or was that RandomGuy who thought Dems were winning the house, senate, and whitehouse in 2016 and the GOP would collapse as a party.

[Chris]

Now that the Russia bullshit has been debunked, they are attacking his sanity. Crawl MF'er crawl!

[boutons_deux]

Russia bullshit has been debunked

:lol godDAMN, you're stupid :lol

[Adam Lambert]

predicting permanent Democratic rule again? Or was that RandomGuy who thought Dems were winning the house, senate, and whitehouse in 2016 and the GOP would collapse as a party.

i dont know what rg predicted and i have no problem admitting i didnt think trump would win but the rest of that wasnt me. safer bet that the gop will fall after the us endures 2-4 years of trump in power. of course, they wont go down without trying to suppress voters even more than last year so who tf knows

[Chris]

:lol godDAMN, you're stupid :lol

Show me the evidence boots...Otherwise you can crawl too MF'er

[boutons_deux]

Show me the evidence boots...Otherwise you can crawl too MF'er

wait for it, asshole.

[Thread]

He shaped up long enough to mop the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Left her where he found her---dead in the ground.

[clambake]

don't lose that cling blanket, dale

[monosylab1k]

So what you're saying is Hillary lost to a mentally handicapped man baby?

[TeyshaBlue]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/teyshablue/Ve9pOjJRxkW2c_zpsam7xeobc.gif (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/teyshablue/media/Ve9pOjJRxkW2c_zpsam7xeobc.gif.html)

[boutons_deux]

So what you're saying is Hillary lost to a mentally handicapped man baby?

Hillary lost to Pootin/Assange and "straight shooter, respected" Comey, won the popular vote by 2.8M.

Pootin admits some Russian hackers, independent of washed-hands Pootin, of course, queered the US election.

The mentally ill man baby demagogued 60M+ ignorant, stupid, conned straight-ticket fuckoffs, who don't even see YET that they fucked themselves.

[Thread]

Hillary lost to Pootin/Assange and "straight shooter, respected" Comey, won the popular vote by 2.8M.

Pootin admits some Russian hackers, independent of washed-hands Pootin, of course, queered the US election.

The mentally ill man baby demagogued 60M+ ignorant, stupid, conned straight-ticket fuckoffs, who don't even see YET that they fucked themselves.

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass. Left her where he found her. Dead in the ground.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[koriwhat]

Having djt as pres is better than old **** hrc any day of the week!

[boutons_deux]

Having djt as pres is better than old **** hrc any day of the week!

goddam you're stupid

[baseline bum]

Having djt as pres is better than old **** hrc any day of the week!

You gonna get calf tats of Trump too?

[Thread]

Having djt as pres is better than old **** hrc any day of the week!

[koriwhat]

lol loony libs

[RandomGuy]

You can't impeach someone for being a shithead.

Nope.

But you can remove a president that has become impaired.

[RandomGuy]

ITT we witness the downfall of a once solid Spurstalk poster

At what level of dementia would you support Trump's, or any president for that matter, removal?

What would be the kinds of things that Trump might say that would worry you?

[RandomGuy]

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass. Left her where he found her. Dead in the ground.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

40,000 votes out of 130,000,000 is a margin of victory on the order of hundredths of a percent. 40,000 people voting differently would have seen a different outcome.

LOL "mopped the floor".

[RandomGuy]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/teyshablue/Ve9pOjJRxkW2c_zpsam7xeobc.gif (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/teyshablue/media/Ve9pOjJRxkW2c_zpsam7xeobc.gif.html)

I'll ask you, then.

What would it take for you to ask that a president be removed? Not asking about Trump specifically, but how would you know that a president was truly mentally impaired?

[TSA]

:lol RandomWebMD

[Thread]

40,000 votes out of 130,000,000 is a margin of victory on the order of hundredths of a percent. 40,000 people voting differently would have seen a different outcome.

LOL "mopped the floor".

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[TeyshaBlue]

I'll ask you, then.

What would it take for you to ask that a president be removed? Not asking about Trump specifically, but how would you know that a president was truly mentally impaired?
I'm not qualified to render that diagnosis. Neither are you, tbh.

[101A]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cpb80t1XYAAv-xJ.jpg

He knows Persia = Iran

/thread

Whatever else, he looks profoundly untreated ADD.

[Chris]

Maxine Waters said the Russians are invading North Korea. Nancy Pelosi thinks Geoge Bush is still the POTUS. Who's really senile here?

[Adam Lambert]

pretty sure most dems would be fine with a compromise of losing waters, pelosi and trump

[boutons_deux]

He knows Persia = Iran

/thread

Whatever else, he looks profoundly untreated ADD.

ADD is just one symptom of many. Trash is seriously mentally disordered, and 40% still think he's doing a great job.

[TSA]

ADD is just one symptom of many. Trash is seriously mentally disordered, and 40% still think he's doing a great job.
RandomGuy what is your online diagnosis of the poster above me?

[Chris]

RandomGuy what is your online diagnosis of the poster above me?

:lol

[boutons_deux]

American Sociopath (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/4/1667887/-American-Sociopath)

Jerk. Liar. Bully. Thug. Con artist. Scumbag. Asshole.

In the four months since the inauguration of Donald Trump, these terms have regrettably become aptly descriptive staples (http://shareblue.com/ignorant-incompetent-liar-america-describes-trump-as-his-support-collapses-in-new-poll/) of our political lexicon.

If it isn’t a flippant remark (http://shareblue.com/gop-lawmaker-lies-at-town-hall-nobody-dies-because-they-dont-have-access-to-health-care/) from a Republican “representative” to his outraged constituents at a health care town hall,

it’s Trump shoving (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/25/politics/trump-pushes-prime-minister-nato-summit/) another world leader to get to the front of the line,

a Republican sailing to victory after publicly assaulting (https://qz.com/992887/when-is-it-okay-to-body-slam-a-reporter/) a journalist, or

an entire Republican Congress looking the other way (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/17/republicans-just-got-what-they-didnt-want-a-special-counsel/?utm_term=.3c5003c82792)

as allegations of treason engulf the Trump administration in seemingly never ending scandal.

a refusal by the “powers that be” to hold any of the bad actors accountable.

Trump has much in common with the garden-variety sociopath, who as most seasoned prison wardens will tell you is “innocent” of every crime that led to his conviction.

I’ve readily become privy to the hidden vulnerabilities and insecurities (https://storify.com/docrocktex26/i-know-why-the-caged-bird-tweets-the-narcissistic-) of the bullies, jerks, thugs, and predators who by all outward appearances don’t seem to have any

I also know a textbook sociopath when I see one.

From Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder):


Antisocial personality disorder is defined by

a pervasive and persistent disregard for morals, social norms, and the rights and feelings of others.

Individuals with this personality disorder will

typically have no compunction in exploiting others in harmful ways for their own gain or pleasure, and

frequently manipulate and deceive other people,

achieving this through wit and a facade ofsuperficial charm, or

through intimidation and violence.

They may display arrogance and

think lowly and negatively of others, and

lack remorse for their harmful actions and

have a callous attitude to those they have harmed.

Irresponsibility is a core characteristic of this disorder:

they can have significant difficulties in maintaining stable employment as well as fulfilling their social and financial obligations, and

people with this disorder often lead exploitative, unlawful, or parasitic lifestyles.

The APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth edition, text revision (DSM IV-TR), defines antisocial personality disorder (Cluster B):

A) A pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others, occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three or more of the following:



failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
deception, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.


B) There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/4/1667887/-American-Sociopath?detail=emaildkre

If it walks, quacks, shits like a duck, it's a duck.

[baseline bum]

RandomGuy what is your online diagnosis of the poster above me?

virgin tbh

[TSA]

American Sociopath (http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/4/1667887/-American-Sociopath)

Jerk. Liar. Bully. Thug. Con artist. Scumbag. Asshole.

In the four months since the inauguration of Donald Trump, these terms have regrettably become aptly descriptive staples (http://shareblue.com/ignorant-incompetent-liar-america-describes-trump-as-his-support-collapses-in-new-poll/) of our political lexicon.

If it isn’t a flippant remark (http://shareblue.com/gop-lawmaker-lies-at-town-hall-nobody-dies-because-they-dont-have-access-to-health-care/) from a Republican “representative” to his outraged constituents at a health care town hall,

it’s Trump shoving (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/25/politics/trump-pushes-prime-minister-nato-summit/) another world leader to get to the front of the line,

a Republican sailing to victory after publicly assaulting (https://qz.com/992887/when-is-it-okay-to-body-slam-a-reporter/) a journalist, or

an entire Republican Congress looking the other way (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/05/17/republicans-just-got-what-they-didnt-want-a-special-counsel/?utm_term=.3c5003c82792)

as allegations of treason engulf the Trump administration in seemingly never ending scandal.

a refusal by the “powers that be” to hold any of the bad actors accountable.

Trump has much in common with the garden-variety sociopath, who as most seasoned prison wardens will tell you is “innocent” of every crime that led to his conviction.

I’ve readily become privy to the hidden vulnerabilities and insecurities (https://storify.com/docrocktex26/i-know-why-the-caged-bird-tweets-the-narcissistic-) of the bullies, jerks, thugs, and predators who by all outward appearances don’t seem to have any

I also know a textbook sociopath when I see one.

From Wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial_personality_disorder):


Antisocial personality disorder is defined by

a pervasive and persistent disregard for morals, social norms, and the rights and feelings of others.

Individuals with this personality disorder will

typically have no compunction in exploiting others in harmful ways for their own gain or pleasure, and

frequently manipulate and deceive other people,

achieving this through wit and a facade ofsuperficial charm, or

through intimidation and violence.

They may display arrogance and

think lowly and negatively of others, and

lack remorse for their harmful actions and

have a callous attitude to those they have harmed.

Irresponsibility is a core characteristic of this disorder:

they can have significant difficulties in maintaining stable employment as well as fulfilling their social and financial obligations, and

people with this disorder often lead exploitative, unlawful, or parasitic lifestyles.

The APA's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fourth edition, text revision (DSM IV-TR), defines antisocial personality disorder (Cluster B):

A) A pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others, occurring since age 15 years, as indicated by three or more of the following:



failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest;
deception, as indicated by repeatedly lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure;
impulsivity or failure to plan ahead;
irritability and aggressiveness, as indicated by repeated physical fights or assaults;
reckless disregard for safety of self or others;
consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to sustain consistent work behavior or honor financial obligations;
lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.


B) There is evidence of conduct disorder with onset before age 15 years.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/6/4/1667887/-American-Sociopath?detail=emaildkre

If it walks, quacks, shits like a duck, it's a duck.









I love a good internet doctor diagnosis clash. What do you got to counter now RandomGuy?

[boutons_deux]

I love a good internet doctor diagnosis clash. What do you got to counter now RandomGuy (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813)?

that's a professional, just one of many who have decided, after months, years of observation, that your BFF Trash is one seriously SICKO motherfucker and is a risk to USA.

People who STILL support and defend Trash are either stupid, ignorant, or sickos themselves, or all three, and are themselves a threat to USA.

[TSA]

that's a professional, just one of many who have decided, after months, years of observation, that your BFF Trash is one seriously SICKO motherfucker and is a risk to USA.

People who STILL support and defend Trash are either stupid, ignorant, or sickos themselves, or all three, and are themselves a threat to USA.
>professional
>quotes Wiki
:rollin

[boutons_deux]

>professional
>quotes Wiki
:rollin

wiki page pages has 86 footnotes, references

and the best your ignorant Trash-fellating brain can retort with is :rollin

[TeyshaBlue]

pretty sure most dems would be fine with a compromise of losing waters, pelosi and trump

Drain the swamp? :lol

[RandomGuy]

I'm not qualified to render that diagnosis. Neither are you, tbh.

I'm not asking you if you are qualified, I am asking you what it would look like.

I have had to personally deal with dementia in one of my wife's parents. It is subtle and strikes about Trump's age generally.

Would dementia take the form of erratic statements?

[RandomGuy]

At what level of dementia would you support Trump's, or any president for that matter, removal?

What would be the kinds of things that Trump might say that would worry you?



:lol RandomWebMD

I noticed you dodged the question.

Why is that?

Do you not think that mental stability in a president is important?

[RandomGuy]

I said, “You don’t use steam anymore for catapult?” “No sir.” I said, “Ah, how is it working?” “Sir, not good. Not good. Doesn’t have the power. You know the steam is just brutal. You see that sucker going and steam’s going all over the place, there’s planes thrown in the air.”

It sounded bad to me. Digital. They have digital. What is digital? And it’s very complicated, you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out. And I said—and now they want to buy more aircraft carriers. I said, “What system are you going to be—” “Sir, we’re staying with digital.” I said, “No you’re not. You going to goddamned steam, the digital costs hundreds of millions of dollars more money and it’s no good.”

[TeyshaBlue]

I'm not asking you if you are qualified, I am asking you what it would look like.

I have had to personally deal with dementia in one of my wife's parents. It is subtle and strikes about Trump's age generally.

Would dementia take the form of erratic statements?
You ask me what it would look like? I think I know what it might look like, but not enough to diagnose someone I don't even fucking know.
My Father died of Alzheimer's. I'm fairly familiar with the signs of dementia in those I know well. But the symptoms can vary significantly. Since my recent cluster of strokes, I often communicate badly...as in moving word order around and generally nonsensical syntax mistakes. My Father didn't make nonsensical, erratic statements...he stopped making them altogether. I make them all the fucking time. Dementia? Nope.

Erratic statements could certainly be one sign, but not necessarily the defining symptom.

[TeyshaBlue]

Look, I think the guy is goofy as hell. I can't think of a point I agree with him on. But dementia? Really?
I might lean closer to him being a high functioning Asperger's victim. Dangerous? A case can be made that his actions and statements are/could be. But demented? Nope.

[baseline bum]

You ask me what it would look like? I think I know what it might look like, but not enough to diagnose someone I don't even fucking know.
My Father died of Alzheimer's. I'm fairly familiar with the signs of dementia in those I know well. But the symptoms can vary significantly. Since my recent cluster of strokes, I often communicate badly...as in moving word order around and generally nonsensical syntax mistakes. My Father didn't make nonsensical, erratic statements...he stopped making them altogether. I make them all the fucking time. Dementia? Nope.

Erratic statements could certainly be one sign, but not necessarily the defining symptom.

Holy shit man, hope you're doing better now Teysha. Sorry about your dad. I saw my two neighbors both get dementia and it was so rough on their kids.

[baseline bum]

Look, I think the guy is goofy as hell. I can't think of a point I agree with him on. But dementia? Really?
I might lean closer to him being a high functioning Asperger's victim. Dangerous? A case can be made that his actions and statements are/could be. But demented? Nope.

I only have experience with my two neighbors. The husband would repeat himself a lot, like he'd tell you something he told you two minutes ago. Nicest guy in the world though. Then when he died (don't know if it was Alzheimer's or dementia, I'm not sure the difference) the wife started showing really bad signs within a year, like forgetting to eat, having months old food in the fridge, not knowing people's names, saying she had dinner parties with people who were never there, etc. It seemed like it happened overnight with her though, and I talked to her almost every day while watering my tomatoes and taking my dog outside.

[Spurminator]

My grandmother has dementia right now and it's basically like she's living some version of the movie Memento as a 20 year old version of herself. She knows she's married to Charlie (my grandfather) but she doesn't recognize the Charlie she's married to right now.

When I see her, it's like she's seeing an old friend she knew 50 years ago. We have the same short conversation multiple times in an hour.

Also, there are people in her closet who are there to take her away so she's afraid to go to bed by herself.

Trump is an angry paranoid old man with a limited grasp of truth, but until he has trouble recognizing his own kids I think it's safe to put aside the dementia/alzheimers talk.

[TeyshaBlue]

Thx man, but I'm fine. Just rewrote my I/O a bit is all.
And yeah, Alzheimer's/dementia is hard to watch much less cope with.

[boutons_deux]

Whatever the specifics, Trash is in many professionals' opinions, people willing to risk their licenses to practice by going public, one mentally disordered, ill motherfucker.

[TSA]

You ask me what it would look like? I think I know what it might look like, but not enough to diagnose someone I don't even fucking know.
My Father died of Alzheimer's. I'm fairly familiar with the signs of dementia in those I know well. But the symptoms can vary significantly. Since my recent cluster of strokes, I often communicate badly...as in moving word order around and generally nonsensical syntax mistakes. My Father didn't make nonsensical, erratic statements...he stopped making them altogether. I make them all the fucking time. Dementia? Nope.

Erratic statements could certainly be one sign, but not necessarily the defining symptom.

Sorry to hear TB and hope you're doing better these days.

to the bolded have you seen the same happening when playing music? Any cool or interesting compositions happen on accident?

[RandomGuy]

Look, I think the guy is goofy as hell. I can't think of a point I agree with him on. But dementia? Really?
I might lean closer to him being a high functioning Asperger's victim. Dangerous? A case can be made that his actions and statements are/could be. But demented? Nope.

I dunno.

When you start reading the transcripts of his interviews, and how he works when he doesn't have a prepared script in front of him, one has to wonder. Some of his answers are incoherent, and am not exaggerating.

[RandomGuy]

You ask me what it would look like? I think I know what it might look like, but not enough to diagnose someone I don't even fucking know.
My Father died of Alzheimer's. I'm fairly familiar with the signs of dementia in those I know well. But the symptoms can vary significantly. Since my recent cluster of strokes, I often communicate badly...as in moving word order around and generally nonsensical syntax mistakes. My Father didn't make nonsensical, erratic statements...he stopped making them altogether. I make them all the fucking time. Dementia? Nope.

Erratic statements could certainly be one sign, but not necessarily the defining symptom.

Also,

Good to see you back, and doing better.

[RandomGuy]

You ask me what it would look like? I think I know what it might look like, but not enough to diagnose someone I don't even fucking know.
My Father died of Alzheimer's. I'm fairly familiar with the signs of dementia in those I know well. But the symptoms can vary significantly. Since my recent cluster of strokes, I often communicate badly...as in moving word order around and generally nonsensical syntax mistakes. My Father didn't make nonsensical, erratic statements...he stopped making them altogether. I make them all the fucking time. Dementia? Nope.

Erratic statements could certainly be one sign, but not necessarily the defining symptom.

You may find this to be a good book:

https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Mistook-His-Wife/dp/1491514078

Neurologist Oliver Sacks' case files, in book form.

[TSA]

Currently watching my 95 year old grandma slowly fade away mentally. Been tough as I see her a few times a week and she doesn't remember anything from my last visit, which sucks because I've got my first baby on the way and have to tell remind her everyday her she's going to have her 15th great grandchild. Happened rather quickly too as she was sharp only a year ago.

Lost my great grandma to Alzheimer's when I was around 10 and that was tough as a child having her not know who I was, couldn't imagine having it happen to my own parents.

[TeyshaBlue]

Sorry to hear TB and hope you're doing better these days.

to the bolded have you seen the same happening when playing music? Any cool or interesting compositions happen on accident?

Thanks. I really am just fine. I actually gained a superpower..StrokeHand™. I lost the feeling on my right side so when you drop that hot dog on the coals when you're cooking out, I'm your man. I'll grab that sucker for ya. :lol. And no, I've not noticed any impact on performance or composition. That's always been spastic.

[TSA]

Thanks. I really am just fine. I actually gained a superpower..StrokeHand™. I lost the feeling on my right side so when you drop that hot dog on the coals when you're cooking out, I'm your man. I'll grab that sucker for ya. :lol. And no, I've not noticed any impact on performance or composition. That's always been spastic.

:tu hope it all stays well for you.

[TeyshaBlue]

It's all good. :tu

I'm just glad you didn't swing at the softball I teed up for you.
*Experienced at grabbing hot weiners*. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Listening to his interviews from 30 years ago and comparing it to the semi-coherent, fucked stream of consciousness that I hear now something is up. It could be sleep deprivation but its not like he is working on the weekend and he seems always like that.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's all good. :tu

I'm just glad you didn't swing at the softball I teed up for you.
*Experienced at grabbing hot weiners*. :lol

Glad to hear you are doing better. Strokes are about as serious as shit can get short of death.

[RandomGuy]

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/06/13/trump-shows-wisconsin-5-minutes-lies-obamacare-runs.html
This happened.

[RandomGuy]

Currently watching my 95 year old grandma slowly fade away mentally. Been tough as I see her a few times a week and she doesn't remember anything from my last visit, which sucks because I've got my first baby on the way and have to tell remind her everyday her she's going to have her 15th great grandchild. Happened rather quickly too as she was sharp only a year ago.

Lost my great grandma to Alzheimer's when I was around 10 and that was tough as a child having her not know who I was, couldn't imagine having it happen to my own parents.

Sorry to hear, and congratulations.

Regards to the kid:
You should start reading Fowl Language, dude is hilarious.
http://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/hostedimages/1458749133i/18526690.jpg

http://www.fowllanguagecomics.com/

In regards to grandma:
Time is precious. I never got to know my grandparents, so I am always happy for people who do. Make the most of it.

[RandomGuy]

Listening to his interviews from 30 years ago and comparing it to the semi-coherent, fucked stream of consciousness that I hear now something is up. It could be sleep deprivation but its not like he is working on the weekend and he seems always like that.

That is the thing. We have a baseline to judge this by. The 70 year old is nowhere near as sharp as the 40 year old, or even the 60 year old, and the lack of sleep should worry any covfefe.

[Thread]

That is the thing. We have a baseline to judge this by. The 70 year old is nowhere near as sharp as the 40 year old, or even the 60 year old, and the lack of sleep should worry any covfefe.

"You" should of thought of that BEFORE he mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

[RandomGuy]

"You" should of thought of that BEFORE he mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

:sleep