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RandomGuy
06-06-2017, 01:35 PM
The Golfer-in-Chief just did something that achieves a very important for foreign policy goal of Vladimir Putin:

Weakening NATO.

No, NATO is by no means over, but the failure to of the president to re-iterate one of the most important US foreign policy planks in the last century did not go unnoticed, in Europe, Moscow, or Washingtons military and foreign policy circles.

Specifically, he dropped a pledge to support NATO's guiding principle, Article 5, i.e. "an attack on one, is an attack on all", from his speech.

This is a grave mistake, that, once again, makes the US look erratic, weak, and untrustworthy.

These three words have come to be the hallmark of the US under Trumps short tenure. The multilateral organizations that have cemented the US' soft power since the end of WW2 have benefited the US in ways that have immeasurable economic benefit. Casting these aside marginalizes the US and creates a power vacuum that many corrupt, anti-democratic dictatorships are eager to fill. Pander to them at your peril.

Background on Trumps newest stupidity
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/05/trump-nato-speech-national-security-team-215227

Once again, Trump has given Putin something he desperately wants.

Why is that?

RandomGuy
06-06-2017, 01:51 PM
It was not until the next day, Thursday, May 25, when Trump started talking at an opening ceremony for NATO’s new Brussels headquarters, that the president’s national security team realized their boss had made a decision with major consequences—without consulting or even informing them in advance of the change.

“They had the right speech and it was cleared through McMaster,” said a source briefed by National Security Council officials in the immediate aftermath of the NATO meeting. “As late as that same morning, it was the right one.”

Added a senior White House official, “There was a fully coordinated other speech everybody else had worked on”—and it wasn’t the one Trump gave. “They didn’t know it had been removed,” said a third source of the Trump national security officials on hand for the ceremony. “It was only upon delivery.”

The president appears to have deleted it himself, according to one version making the rounds inside the government, reflecting his personal skepticism about NATO and insistence on lecturing NATO allies about spending more on defense rather than offering reassurances of any sort; another version relayed to others by several White House aides is that Trump’s nationalist chief strategist Steve Bannon and policy aide Stephen Miller played a role in the deletion. (According to NSC spokesman Michael Anton, who did not dispute this account, “The president attended the summit to show his support for the NATO alliance, including Article 5. His continued effort to secure greater defense commitments from other nations is making our alliance stronger.”)

hater
06-06-2017, 02:31 PM
The Russians are coming!!! Everybody panic!! Whaaaaa!!!!

boutons_deux
06-06-2017, 02:47 PM
Once again, Trump has given Putin something he desperately wants.

Why is that?

Trash is deeply indebted to Pootin and his mafiya, who probably saved Trash from final bankruptcy when US banks would not lend to him anymore, after 5 or 6 bankruptcies. His sons said twice Russian money was pouring in.

and Mueller is sure to find out where Manafort got $3.5M to buy a NY house.

Chucho
06-06-2017, 03:06 PM
Fucking crazy ass conspiracy nuts with their friggin Russia nonsense. Zero evidence. ZERO.

That's as stupid as saying NBA games are rigged, that Oswald acted alone, that 9/11 was a conspiracy, that Hillary lost the election not because of her or the fact that Fascism is a disgusting turnoff.

LOLZY as fuck with this Russia shit. Get over it. If he was as stupid as Boots, which is what people paint him as, he'd have been busted and sent to the gallows by now.

Splits
06-06-2017, 03:09 PM
That's as stupid as saying NBA games are rigged, that Oswald acted alone, that 9/11 was a conspiracy, that Hillary lost the election not because of her or the fact that Fascism is a disgusting turnoff, that Sandy Hook was a false flag perpetrated by anti-2nd-Amendment activists


fixed

Chucho
06-06-2017, 03:17 PM
fixed

How's spurstalk.net going? Wanna blame that flaming dumpster fire of a flash-in-the-pan failure on the Russians too?

Splits
06-06-2017, 03:21 PM
How's spurstalk.net going? Wanna blame that flaming dumpster fire of a flash-in-the-pan failure on the Russians too?

I take it about as seriously as Sandy Hook Truthers

Chucho
06-06-2017, 03:27 PM
I take it about as seriously as Sandy Hook Truthers

So, as about as seriously and respected as you are here. Makes sense. Rather be a Sandy Hook truther than a Russia Truther because the Fascist Train is a-slowing down.

Splits
06-06-2017, 03:35 PM
FBI SAYS NO ONE KILLED AT SANDY HOOK (https://www.infowars.com/fbi-says-no-one-killed-at-sandy-hook/)

Agency publishes crime report showing "0" murders occurred in Newtown in 2012

Adan Salazar | Infowars.com - SEPTEMBER 24, 2014

Recently released FBI crime statistics (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/8tabledatadecpdf/table-8-state-cuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_conne cticut_by_city_2012.xls#disablemobile) curiously appear to show that no murders occurred in Newtown, Connecticut, in 2012, despite reports that numerous schoolchildren and faculty members were slaughtered during a shooting rampage in December of that year.

https://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/conn-fbi2.jpg (https://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/larger-conn-report.jpg)
Data from a recent FBI report (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/8tabledatadecpdf/table-8-state-cuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_conne cticut_by_city_2012.xls#disablemobile) shows zero murders occurred in Newtown in 2012.

On December 14, 2012, the world watched in horror as the corporate media reported the deaths of 20 students and 6 staff members at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown at the hands of a deranged 20-year-old.

Internet sleuths immediately took to the web to stitch together clues indicating the shooting could be a carefully-scripted false flag event, similar to the 9/11 terror attacks, the central tenet being that the event would be used to galvanize future support for gun control legislation. Two years later, and scores of politicians and gun control groups have cited the Sandy Hook incident as a pretext to curtail Americans’ Second Amendment rights.

The investigation took an odd turn earlier this year when national school safety consultant Wolfgang Halbig was visited and threatened at his home by homicide detectives (https://www.infowars.com/school-shooting-expert-threatened-over-sandy-hook-investigation/) after he began reporting on additional inconsistencies in the Sandy Hook narrative, which he believes prove the shooting to be fabricated.

Among 16 questions which Halbig says are key to unlocking the Sandy Hook mystery (https://www.infowars.com/connecticut-tries-to-hide-sandy-hook-truth/), Halbig asks, “Why and for what reason would the FBI classify the SHES shooting when they did not classify the Columbine shooting which also was an Active Shooter Mass Casualty Incidents (AS/MCI)?”

Additionally, Halbig questioned why no trauma helicopters were ever summoned to the school, and why paramedics and EMTs weren’t allowed to enter the building to try to save lives.
In contrast to the Connecticut report, the 2012 FBI crime report for the state of Colorado (http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/8tabledatadecpdf/table-8-state-cuts/table_8_offenses_known_to_law_enforcement_by_color ado_by_city_2012.xls) shows that 29 murders occurred in the town of Aurora that year, a figure which takes into account the number of people who died in the Century Theater during the premiere of Christopher Nolan’s The Dark Knight film.

https://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/colo-fbi.jpg (https://hw.infowars.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/colo-fbi.jpg)
2012 FBI crime report for the state of Colorado shows 29 murders occurred that year.

While those who question the official Sandy Hook story have largely been marginalized, the FBI’s own data is now seemingly substantiating their theories.

lol

DisAsTerBot
06-06-2017, 03:58 PM
Sandy hook truther :rollin

RandomGuy
06-06-2017, 04:27 PM
Fucking crazy ass conspiracy nuts with their friggin Russia nonsense. Zero evidence. ZERO.

That's as stupid as saying NBA games are rigged, that Oswald acted alone, that 9/11 was a conspiracy, that Hillary lost the election not because of her or the fact that Fascism is a disgusting turnoff.

LOLZY as fuck with this Russia shit. Get over it. If he was as stupid as Boots, which is what people paint him as, he'd have been busted and sent to the gallows by now.

What is Russia's opinion of NATO? In your own words.

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(and by Russia one can pretty much substitute "Putin" at this point)

A link or two to an interview may be informative, if you care to.