View Full Version : Chris Paul would potentially lead to Lebron James.
soxxx
06-13-2017, 07:43 AM
Just throwing it out there, CP3 IS the most closest to person to Lebron James in the league, closer than even Wade, throw in the fact it makes sense for Lebron to go out West to avoid the Finals losses (but at this point I am not sure if that matters. It might sound like a pipe dream but in Lebrons press conference it sounded like will try to figure out a way to get past the Warriors. This would not happen until 2018 but if the Spurs landed Paul now it would open the way for Lebron.
Canyonero
06-13-2017, 07:47 AM
tbhimofwiw
LeBron not likely to play in a small market.
LeBron not likely to play in a small market.
Like Cleveland ?
daledondale
06-13-2017, 08:02 AM
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Like Cleveland ?
Cleveland has all the major sports and he's from there. San Antonio is a small market that can only support basketball right now. I love SA, but we're small market. LeBron will only leave to go to a big city team.
Cleveland has all the major sports and he's from there. San Antonio is a small market that can only support basketball right now. I love SA, but we're small market. LeBron will only leave to go to a big city team.
I disagree. If LeBron is leaving Cleveland again, he'll go to best team that can get him a ring. He won't go to GSW, if Cavs aren't that team, Spurs will probably be next choice.
Spurtacular
06-13-2017, 08:46 AM
Cleveland has all the major sports and he's from there. San Antonio is a small market that can only support basketball right now. I love SA, but we're small market. LeBron will only leave to go to a big city team.
Not sure there's not a workaround or compromise to be had. I wouldn't doubt that at times in these finals that Lebron was wishing he had a guy like Kawhi (along with Green) to lock down Durant and Curry as well as a coach like Pop who could actually handle the business unlike that shill in front of his bench.
Spurtacular
06-13-2017, 08:48 AM
I disagree. If LeBron is leaving Cleveland again, he'll go to best team that can get him a ring. He won't go to GSW, if Cavs aren't that team, Spurs will probably be next choice.
That's how I'm seeing it to an extent. Might he give Cleveland a another go or two first? Thus my fear is that SA won't be getting a nearly as dominant version of Lebron.
coachmac87
06-13-2017, 09:06 AM
I don't believe the LA hype at all tbh..if he goes anywhere I can see Boston or SA. Boston has the most flexibility and assets while SA has the best player/coach. Lakers have too many holes to fill within a year or so to make a legit contender IMO
I think the move that happens this offseason is Melo somehow getting to Cleveland with Wade lurking in the back ground..
picnroll
06-13-2017, 09:23 AM
One thing you know about Lebron, he only wants to be on teams that can win championships and given the way GS is stacked he's going to have to pick and chose to stack the deck so he has a chance in the next 3-4 years. He's already bad mouthing his owner to make room for an exit from Cleveland.
CP is on his last legs and hes super injury prone as it is.
NO THANKS
develop murray, hes our future star pg
Ah, let the offseason shitposting officially begin.
Spur|n|Austin
06-13-2017, 09:47 AM
I will agree with OP, I think if by some crazy odds CP does make his way to SA this summer it will only help the case for Lebron in 2018 free agency.
playbonner15
06-13-2017, 09:47 AM
Whats with all the Lebron to Spurs predictions? :lol
$pursDynasty
06-13-2017, 09:54 AM
Whats with all the Lebron to Spurs predictions? :lol
knowing that LBJ is thirsty for the MJ comparisons and the only way to get there is more raaaannngggs, the only way to get those is to go to a team that can beat the Dubs, and that only team is apparently the Spurs.
BG_Spurs_Fan
06-13-2017, 09:59 AM
Don't think Kawhi would be happy for his team to be usurped by the banana boat crew.
coachmac87
06-13-2017, 10:01 AM
Whats with all the Lebron to Spurs predictions? :lol
He stated "Who wouldn't want to play for GSW or SA *pause* or Cleveland"
Then the speculation he may be looking elsewhere in 18' possibly LA
And there's analysts like Jay Williams who've suggested it publicly etc...
So yeah even though it's pretty unrealistic..it's not like it came from nowhere
Chillen
06-13-2017, 10:11 AM
Pretty much the Spurs are the only safe team that's a contender that he can leave Cleveland and go to. PR wise if he went back to Miami it would be bad, Golden State it would be really, really bad, Clippers bad. Spurs have a HOF coach he'd love to play for and one of the best players in the league, it's the only safe team for him to not receive bad PR if he were to leave the Cavs again. Only is possible if Spurs can sign CP3.
Not sure LeBron likes SA. Gives him cramps.
Cleveland has all the major sports and he's from there. San Antonio is a small market that can only support basketball right now. I love SA, but we're small market. LeBron will only leave to go to a big city team.
You mean a market that lost its NFL team (but got it back) and ranks 26th in the majors in attendance despite being in extra innings of game 7 of the World Series last year?
I think the small market phenomenon of SA is less meaningful for an established guy but it's about the narrative of him ring chasing that could be the detriment.
buttsR4rebounding
06-13-2017, 10:47 AM
Not sure LeBron likes SA. Gives him cramps.
LeBron gives SA and Pop props all the time. I can see him saying that he wants a chance to play with the coach he thinks is the best one of his generation.
coachmac87
06-13-2017, 11:05 AM
You mean a market that lost its NFL team (but got it back) and ranks 26th in the majors in attendance despite being in extra innings of game 7 of the World Series last year?
I think the small market phenomenon of SA is less meaningful for an established guy but it's about the narrative of him ring chasing that could be the detriment.
"Small Market" excuse for the Spurs no longer exist/has changed due social media etc and to the success of the franchise. Back when the Spurs whiffed on Kidd or other "Big FA's" the Spurs didn't have the ultimate respect across the league..especially Pop. The Spurs/Lakers then and now comparisons are really ironic on how over time things have changed.
Spur|n|Austin
06-13-2017, 11:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2hOSn-FiMs
tmtcsc
06-13-2017, 11:27 AM
http://gph.is/2fsKOeG
coachmac87
06-13-2017, 11:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2hOSn-FiMs
LeBron is already plugged in to LA business and doesn't need Magic Johnson to show him the ropes. LeBron wants to be the greatest player ever and the richest athlete ever..if he can accomplish both in LA then sure it makes sense. But strictly basketball wise Lakers don't make sense at all for a couple years unless something drastic happens.
The easiest way for LeBron to become a BILLIONAIRE athlete is catching the ghost of Jordan..it doesn't matter where he plays just catch the ghost and the $$ will take care of itself..
I also find the reactions of the "idea" of LeBron to SA quite funny tbh..Marceulles with a *ugh* and even Rich Eisen and his crew when Jay Williams brought it up on his show..
Kyle Orton
06-13-2017, 11:51 AM
LeBron would rather stop doctoring his hair than play in that shithole tbh
SpurPadre
06-13-2017, 12:15 PM
Fuck bought not built. It's one thing to get CP3, who we need to fill a void but I'm not down with using the league as a farm system. The league is shitty enough as it is with what the Dubs did this season. We went to the WCF without TP and were an injury away from possibly beating the eventual champs, who are a superteam. We don't need Lebron to buy a championship. Tinker with the roster? Yes. Get a HOF in CP3? Yes, he fills a need. But you don't gut the league out of competition. It's not fun like that and that's not what this organization is about...nor is this in the realm of a possibility anyways!
Ron Swanson
06-13-2017, 12:22 PM
Ah, let the offseason shitposting officially begin.
Just a continuation of in-season shitposting.
Big thing everybody misses on LeBron to Spurs. The culture. KD changed from playing ball dominant where he and Westbrook took turns going one on one to an unselfish team game. GSW have 4 all stars, but they play unselfish. Durant adopted that style.
The Spurs have the same culture. Trust the organization. Team defense and unselfish offense. And no superstar attitudes. LeBron is used to running the show from coaching to being the GM. He would have to come here and blend. Not order RC to pay all his player friends big contracts (so his agent friends that represent his player friends make money). He would have to conform his game to Pop's vision. He would have to handle the ball less and score less. It takes a certain kind of player to thrive in SA. I'm not sure a guy used to getting everything he wants and doing what he wants would like or thrive in this culture.
Spur|n|Austin
06-13-2017, 02:12 PM
Just a continuation of in-season shitposting.
How is this shit posting? It's general Spurs conversation during the very slow time of the year. Why don't you start a thread?
TheDoctor
06-13-2017, 05:23 PM
...BILLIONAIRE...
LBJ already is. Technically.
Last season he signed a lifetime billion dollar Nike deal.
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Nathan89
06-13-2017, 05:35 PM
Have to wait and see what Cavs do with the roster. If they finish next season with the same roster then Spurs would have a chance.
DPG21920
06-13-2017, 05:45 PM
LBJ already is. Technically.
Last season he signed a lifetime billion dollar Nike deal.
866694542396882944
That was a great read and interview :tu
spursmvp
06-13-2017, 05:54 PM
Lebron would take away from Kawhi's legacy.
A guy like LeBron won't adopt the Spurs culture.
coachmac87
06-13-2017, 06:35 PM
A guy like LeBron won't adopt the Spurs culture.
Please elaborate
See my earlier post. I'm not sure how RC would take James telling him who to sign and how much money to pay him. And demanding the Spurs pay highest luxury tax to surround him with talent to win. That's the superstar you get.
coachmac87
06-13-2017, 06:49 PM
See my earlier post. I'm not sure how RC would take James telling him who to sign and how much money to pay him. And demanding the Spurs pay highest luxury tax to surround him with talent to win. That's the superstar you get.
Well you're comparing a Cleveland franchise with no credibility..to the most respected franchise in the sport
coachmac87
06-13-2017, 06:51 PM
And you also apparently don't understand the chain of command of the Spurs..LeBron wouldn't be telling RC what to do..he'd be telling Pop.
If James does come, will this be Kawhi's team or James'?
I'd say it's Kawhi's team, especially in light of the fact that Leonard's career is ascendin while James' is on the tail end.
Just a thought.
And you also apparently don't understand the chain of command of the Spurs..LeBron wouldn't be telling RC what to do..he'd be telling Pop.
Pop gave up GM duties long ago. I'm sure he has some say, but the coach/GM model has proved to not work. But LeBron may defer to Pop, but my point is he either won't defer or he won't be happy. He's been calling the shots since he was 15 on every team and especially after his Miami experience.
If James does come, will this be Kawhi's team or James'?
I'd say it's Kawhi's team, especially in light of the fact that Leonard's career is ascendin while James' is on the tail end.
Just a thought.
I don't think LeBron will take a back seat to anyone.
coachmac87
06-13-2017, 09:15 PM
Pop gave up GM duties long ago. I'm sure he has some say, but the coach/GM model has proved to not work. But LeBron may defer to Pop, but my point is he either won't defer or he won't be happy. He's been calling the shots since he was 15 on every team and especially after his Miami experience.
Pop is the president of operations...he's the boss of everything about the Spurs other then ownership.
LeBron has never played for a coach like Pop...there's a reason why he's respected more then any other active coach by players and other coaches..
Ron Swanson
06-13-2017, 09:20 PM
How is this shit posting? It's general Spurs conversation during the very slow time of the year. Why don't you start a thread?
Ok, calling it shit posting was unfair. I know it's just fun offseason speculation.
thekingrobert
06-14-2017, 05:08 AM
If and big if this does happen they might even have money for one more star player
kuato
06-14-2017, 06:13 AM
No thanks
tbdog
06-14-2017, 09:03 AM
With the Durant Beta Bitch move, there chance of some unlikely and unheard of things could fall into place, and the Spurs are in a situation where it could fall in the lap. At the end of the day, the chances of Lebron and Paul winning a title with the Warriors is slim. Defiantly grossly unlikely with CP and the Clippers. Plus, and keep this in mind, player to player tampering is not being enforced. Now imagine Lebron calling his buddies Melo and Wade. 'Fuck these warriors, lets join up.' Lebron calls CP, 'Get to SA and we will join up a year later. Keep this quiet.' And with Lebron and Wade having one year remaining and Melo opting out, all of a sudden they are free agents.
Unlikely? Fuck oath. But Durant Beta Bitch changed the league.
$pursDynasty
06-14-2017, 09:18 AM
If James does come, will this be Kawhi's team or James'?
I'd say it's Kawhi's team, especially in light of the fact that Leonard's career is ascendin while James' is on the tail end.
Just a thought.
When LBJ first went to Miami it was still Wade's team, soon it became obvious that LBJ was the best player but it was still Wade's team. If LBJ were to come to the Spurs I don't think he would be the best player, and would be seen more as a very valuable hired assassin but a hired assassin nonetheless. So no worries there, especially if he gets us two or more rings, then he would just be the best free agent acquisition ever.
$pursDynasty
06-14-2017, 09:20 AM
With the Durant Beta Bitch move, there chance of some unlikely and unheard of things could fall into place, and the Spurs are in a situation where it could fall in the lap. At the end of the day, the chances of Lebron and Paul winning a title with the Warriors is slim. Defiantly grossly unlikely with CP and the Clippers. Plus, and keep this in mind, player to player tampering is not being enforced. Now imagine Lebron calling his buddies Melo and Wade. 'Fuck these warriors, lets join up.' Lebron calls CP, 'Get to SA and we will join up a year later. Keep this quiet.' And with Lebron and Wade having one year remaining and Melo opting out, all of a sudden they are free agents.
Unlikely? Fuck oath. But Durant Beta Bitch changed the league.
Funny thing is, they all know that they by themselves can't beat the Warriors, otherwise they would meet in LA (Clippers), them however forgoing salary to join the Spurs machine, now that would give the Warriors pause.
look_at_g_shred
06-14-2017, 09:54 AM
I like the idea of James coming here with Cp but melo and wade? Fucking gross. By that time, they will be no better than Manu at this point. lol at anyone who thinks melo and wade would actually help against the worriors.
BatManu20
06-14-2017, 10:51 AM
Don't think Kawhi would be happy for his team to be usurped by the banana boat crew.
:lol
Have to wait and see what Cavs do with the roster. If they finish next season with the same roster then Spurs would have a chance.
They don't really have any assets to work with, so I don't see a big change-up happening. They would either have to trade Love for another big piece (which would basically be a wash, considering how well Love played this season), or they would have to hope they can get a game-changer to sign for the minimum which seems unlikely.
I'm sure they will pull some strings like they did with Korver and Williams, but we saw how that ended up working out for them.
Lebron would take away from Kawhi's legacy.
Kawhi gotta find a way to get past the SuperWarriors if he wants to truly have a legacy...which will probably take a guy like Lebron.
Pop is the president of operations...he's the boss of everything about the Spurs other then ownership.
LeBron has never played for a coach like Pop...there's a reason why he's respected more then any other active coach by players and other coaches..
Exactly. I think a compelling argument can be made that the reason LeBron has so often assumed coaching/GM duties is because he's so often played for teams (pretty much the Cavs) with weak/inept front offices. I mean, the dude played for Mike Brown and David Blatt. I bet he willingly ceded much control over personnel if he ever joined a team with a solid front office like the Spurs or, as much as I hate to say it, GSW. He will probably always want input but that's not out of line for a star of his magnitude, especially because he actually has a legit acumen for the game.
I like the idea of James coming here with Cp but melo and wade? Fucking gross. By that time, they will be no better than Manu at this point. lol at anyone who thinks melo and wade would actually help against the worriors.
Would Melo and Wade be any worse than Manu, Green, Anderson, Pau, Aldrige? I very much doubt it. Or better yet, wouldn't you take Wade and Melo over guys like JR Smith, Richard Jefferson, Shumpert, and Deron Williams? I know I would.
Pretty much anyone coupled with Kawhi, LeBron, and CP3 should suffice to get past GSW. Wade and Melo would be more than enough, IMO.
BatManu20
06-14-2017, 06:55 PM
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tbdog
06-14-2017, 09:14 PM
When LBJ first went to Miami it was still Wade's team, soon it became obvious that LBJ was the best player but it was still Wade's team. If LBJ were to come to the Spurs I don't think he would be the best player, and would be seen more as a very valuable hired assassin but a hired assassin nonetheless. So no worries there, especially if he gets us two or more rings, then he would just be the best free agent acquisition ever.
Whats going for the Spurs is Pop. Lebron respect him a lot and has mentioned him in interviews, not compared to other coaches. Plus I think Melo likes Pop as well for team USA.
goliath
06-14-2017, 10:43 PM
I really don't see what lebron gains by going to the lakers. If he had won this year or his first year back in Cleveland and had a banked a couple more championships I could see him going to help his "brand" but not with only 3. The clips would be a slightly better situation but have really shown no capacity to fill out their roster beyond the top players. At least pop and rc have a history of building title teams and have done so three times (99, 2003-2007, and 2014).
SilverSpur
06-17-2017, 01:06 PM
What's wrong with this picture?
San Antonio 7th largest city in U.S. , population 1.5 million - 1 major sport team
Cleveland 51st largest city in U.S. , Population 385,800 thousand - 4 major sports teams and a arena football team.
San Antonio wants sports teams in NFL, MLB, MLS , but can't even support the Talons in arena football.
This tells me the fans in Cleveland are attending every sporting event multiple times., and most likely attending Ohio St football games.
Why is money such a big issue with the Spurs when they are the only show in town. They should be able to sign who they want at any time. The money is there.
What constitutes a big market? Population, ticket sales, corporate sponsors, tv ratings?
Why wouldn't Chris Paul and LeBron James sign here?
HarlemHeat37
06-17-2017, 01:28 PM
:lmao LeBron fucking James, one of the biggest brands in all of entertainment, playing in SA..Jesus, these pipe dreams..
What's wrong with this picture?
San Antonio 7th largest city in U.S. , population 1.5 million - 1 major sport team
Cleveland 51st largest city in U.S. , Population 385,800 thousand - 4 major sports teams and a arena football team.
San Antonio wants sports teams in NFL, MLB, MLS , but can't even support the Talons in arena football.
This tells me the fans in Cleveland are attending every sporting event multiple times., and most likely attending Ohio St football games.
Why is money such a big issue with the Spurs when they are the only show in town. They should be able to sign who they want at any time. The money is there.
What constitutes a big market? Population, ticket sales, corporate sponsors, tv ratings?
Why wouldn't Chris Paul and LeBron James sign here?
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soxxx
06-18-2017, 09:29 AM
Also think about this, if CP3 goes to the Spurs, in what world would Lebron go to the Lakers? He would have to get by San Antonio and Golden State, he would be forced to stay in the East.
Spurs have to get CP3 and Lebron will follow.
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