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spurs=bling
10-15-2005, 01:03 AM
WASHINGTON - Americans' fast-paced, high-tech existence has taken a toll on civility. From road rage in the morning commute to high decibel cell-phone conversations that ruin dinner out, men and women behaving badly have become the hallmark of a hurry-up world.

An increasing informality — flip-flops at the White House, even — combined with self-absorbed communication gadgets and a demand for instant gratification have strained common courtesies to the breaking point.

"All of these things lead to a world with more stress, more chances for people to be rude to each other," said Peter Post, a descendent of etiquette expert Emily Post and an instructor on business manners through the Emily Post Institute in Burlington, Vt.

In some cases, the harried single parent has replaced the traditional nuclear family and there's little time to teach the basics of polite living, let alone how to hold a knife and fork, according to Post.

A slippage in manners is obvious to many Americans. Nearly 70 percent questioned in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll said people are ruder than they were 20 or 30 years ago. The trend is noticed in large and small places alike, although more urban people report bad manners, 74 percent, then do people in rural areas, 67 percent.

Peggy Newfield, founder and president of Personal Best, said the generation that came of age in the times-a-changin' 1960s and 1970s are now parents who don't stress the importance of manners, such as opening a door for a female.

So it was no surprise to Newfield that those children wouldn't understand how impolite it was to wear flip-flops to a White House meeting with the president — as some members of the Northwestern women's lacrosse team did in the summer.

A whopping 93 percent in the AP-Ipsos poll faulted parents for failing to teach their children well.

"Parents are very much to blame," said Newfield, whose Atlanta-based company started teaching etiquette to young people and now focuses on corporate employees. "And the media."

Sulking athletes and boorish celebrities grab the headlines while television and Hollywood often glorify crude behavior.

"It's not like the old shows 'Father Knows Best,'" said Norm Demers, 47, of Sutton, Mass. "People just copy it. How do you change it?" Demers would like to see more family friendly television but isn't holding his breath.

Nearly everyone has a story of the rude or the crude, but fewer are willing to fess up to boorish behavior themselves.

Only 13 percent in the poll would admit to making an obscene gesture while driving; only 8 percent said they had used their cell phones in a loud or annoying manner around others. But 37 percent in the survey of 1,001 adults questioned Aug. 22-23 said they had used a swear word in public.

Yvette Sienkiewicz, 41, a claims adjustor from Wilmington, Del., recalled in frustration how a bigger boy cut in front of her 8-year-old son as he waited in line to play a game at the local Chuck E. Cheese.

"It wasn't my thing to say something to the little boy," said Sienkiewicz, who remembered that the adult accompanying the child never acknowledged what he had done. In the AP-Ipsos poll, 38 percent said they have asked someone to stop behaving rudely.

More and more, manners are taught less and less.

Carole Krohn, 71, a retired school bus driver in Deer Park, Wash., said she has seen children's behavior deteriorate over the years, including one time when a boy tossed a snowball at the back of another driver's head. In this litigious society, she argued, a grown-up risks trouble correcting someone else's kid.

One solution for bad behavior "is to put a kid off in the middle of the road. Nowadays all people want to do is sue, to say you're to blame, get you fired," Krohn said.

Krohn, who often greeted students by name and with a hearty "good morning," once was asked by a child if she got tired of offering pleasantries.

Sienkiewicz, whose job requires hours in a car, said she tries to avoid rush-hour traffic because of drivers with a me-first attitude. The most common complaint about rudeness in the poll was aggressive or reckless driving, with 91 percent citing it as the most frequent discourtesy.

Margaret Hahn-Dupont, a 39-year-old law professor from Oradell, N.J., noticed that some of her students showed little respect for authority and felt free to express their discontent and demand better grades.

Close on the heels of the baby boomers are the affluent teens and young adults who have known nothing but the conveniences of computers and cell phones, devices that take them away from face-to-face encounters and can be downright annoying in a crowd.

"They got a lot of things and feel entitled to get a lot of things," said Hahn-Dupont.

Bernard F. Scanlon, 79, of Sayville, N.Y., would like to see one railroad car set aside for cell phone users to ensure peace and quiet for the rest. Amtrak has taken a stab at that by banning cell phones and other loud devices in one car of some trains, especially on chatty Northeast and West Coast routes.

But if those trains are sold out, the Quiet Car service is suspended and anything goes.

How rude.

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On the Net:

http://www.ap-ipsosresults.com

Shaolin-Style
10-15-2005, 01:09 AM
Has to be the cellphones :p I don't own one and I'm one of the nicest people around.

Johnny_Blaze_47
10-15-2005, 01:29 AM
Go to hell!

scott
10-15-2005, 11:03 AM
"When asked to comment, American's told Pollsters to fuck off."

Vashner
10-15-2005, 11:35 AM
Democrats = Rude ...

Ok well it's not that simple.. but in my twisted world it is...

spurs=bling
10-15-2005, 11:45 AM
"When asked to comment, American's told Pollsters to fuck off."
:lol

bigzak25
10-15-2005, 02:51 PM
1. parents.
2. parents.
3. media (news, music, movies, magazines, etc, etc, etc)

value systems are fucked up.

people worship money and sex over love and truth.

this weakness trickles down.

weak people are rude.

Solid D
10-15-2005, 03:58 PM
If this article is "news" to you...you are probably under 25 years of age.

spurs=bling
10-15-2005, 04:02 PM
If this article is "news" to you...you are probably under 25 years of age.

Example # 1 ^

Solid D
10-15-2005, 04:05 PM
You must be under age 25 :lol

spurs=bling
10-15-2005, 04:10 PM
You must be under age 25 :lol

To be honest i posted this to find out who would be rude.

and so far i only have two.

Solid D
10-15-2005, 04:16 PM
I apologize if you think I was being rude. Cynicism can look that way. I'm sorry if I offended you, Spurs=bling.

spurs=bling
10-15-2005, 04:17 PM
I apologize if you think I was being rude. Cynicism can look that way. I'm sorry if I offended you, Spurs=bling.
:lol

Solid D
10-15-2005, 04:18 PM
:lol I thought you were going to say "Psyche!!!"

ObiwanGinobili
10-15-2005, 04:18 PM
i'm not shocked.
but I still act shocked whenever I run across rude people.
I refuse to accept it as normal.

SpursWoman
10-15-2005, 04:49 PM
I almost got into a serious altercation with this girl at HEB the other night for calling her out for being extremely rude to me....that stupid bitch. :lol

I've never seen that kind of shock on my kids faces before when they heard me ... it was priceless. :wow :lmao

Kdfelicity
10-15-2005, 05:05 PM
Duh. I could have wrote that article, only it'd be a hell of a lot longer.

spurs=bling
10-15-2005, 05:11 PM
i'm not shocked.
but I still act shocked whenever I run across rude people.
I refuse to accept it as normal.

same here

clooneyschick04
10-15-2005, 09:38 PM
I have to deal with rude people all of the time with working where I do. It's become even more of a task with all these evacuees in town now. This is definitely not news to me. Sometimes you just want to :bang you know?

samikeyp
10-16-2005, 10:10 AM
Rude? Fuck you! :lol

I talk to rude people everyday...you have to not let it get to you...some days though...its harder than others.

bigzak25
10-16-2005, 10:39 AM
the hard part is not being rude back to rude people.

do not play their game. be nice to rude people and they will question themselves

and maybe think hard about if they should be rude the next time. :tu

CommanderMcBragg
10-16-2005, 11:04 AM
Materialism has made people ruder than ever before.

Gatita
10-16-2005, 12:09 PM
Well Fuck You!

samikeyp
10-16-2005, 04:26 PM
the hard part is not being rude back to rude people.

do not play their game. be nice to rude people and they will question themselves

and maybe think hard about if they should be rude the next time

Well said!

Marklar MM
10-16-2005, 04:32 PM
I didn't need a poll to tell me American's are rude.

Vashner
10-16-2005, 04:51 PM
It's all about how your raised. I go from polite to stone cold steel. I have no rude mode. If someone is in my face i'll just calmy say "fuck off I am armed"... that normally does the trick.

Clandestino
10-17-2005, 07:55 AM
I have to deal with rude people all of the time with working where I do. It's become even more of a task with all these evacuees in town now. This is definitely not news to me. Sometimes you just want to :bang you know?

where do you work?

i talked to a sheriff this past weekend. he said the hurricane people were the most unappreciative, rude, sobs he's ever dealt with.

batman2883
10-17-2005, 08:23 AM
I dont think we should just stop at rude....because i know for a fact, that myself,
I'm rude, arrogant, obnoxious, stuck up, and conceited.....i mean were fucking Amercians we have a right to be proud....fuck those other fucking countries.......

except, Poland, Germany, Russia, Japan, Slovenia, and Argentina

SWC Bonfire
10-17-2005, 08:40 AM
i'm not shocked.
but I still act shocked whenever I run across rude people.
I refuse to accept it as normal.

Good for you. :tu Also, refuse to do business with these people if at all possible.

clooneyschick04
10-17-2005, 09:13 AM
where do you work?

i talked to a sheriff this past weekend. he said the hurricane people were the most unappreciative, rude, sobs he's ever dealt with.

I work in the Acadiana Mall in Lafayette, La. I know the people of San Antonio have seen alot of evacuees but our town has nearly doubled in population. I can vouch for the sheriff you talked to and say he's right on the money describing these people. Our town welcomed these people with open arms (just like my hometown of San Antonio) and we are becoming quite sick of it all. It's getting old now. :depressed

Clandestino
10-17-2005, 09:39 AM
but overall, americans are super fucking friendly when compared to europeans..

SWC Bonfire
10-17-2005, 09:42 AM
but overall, americans are super fucking friendly when compared to europeans..

I don't know about that. If you get away from the big cities, Europeans are very friendly and helpful - just like in the US.

I would wager that a French farmer is much friendlier than your average New Yorker.

mookie2001
10-17-2005, 09:45 AM
oh bonfire youre just anti-american!

SWC Bonfire
10-17-2005, 09:46 AM
And typing with the "text messaging" slang is inconsiderate to those who aren't 12 or have higher than an 8th grade education. :lol

clooneyschick04
10-17-2005, 09:47 AM
but overall, americans are super fucking friendly when compared to europeans..

I've met alot of people from the U.K. (my fiancee being one) and they are always SUPER, SUPER nice!

SWC Bonfire
10-17-2005, 09:47 AM
oh bonfire youre just anti-american!

I meant Freedom Farmer.

batman2883
10-17-2005, 09:47 AM
No mooks, Bonfire is just bitter because he knows that all americans joke about aggies, therefore traveling to other countries is necessary to escape the constant ridicule of being an Aggie/Aggie fan in states

SWC Bonfire
10-17-2005, 09:48 AM
I've met alot of people from the U.K. (my fiancee being one) and they are always SUPER, SUPER nice!

Yes, the Brits are really cool to Americans.

clooneyschick04
10-17-2005, 09:49 AM
I meant Freedom Farmer.

:lol

mookie2001
10-17-2005, 09:50 AM
those liberal European bastards don't even have Tahoes!
how the hell can they farm?

SWC Bonfire
10-17-2005, 09:50 AM
No mooks, Bonfire is just bitter because he knows that all americans joke about aggies, therefore traveling to other countries is necessary to escape the constant ridicule of being an Aggie/Aggie fan in states

The best Aggie jokes all come from Aggies themselves. We tell them so that you don't realize that we are taking over.

OnStar* is working silently right now...

batman2883
10-17-2005, 09:50 AM
those liberal European bastards don't even have Tahoes!
how the hell can they farm?
ha hah a ha hah a ha haha fucking hilarious mooks, fucking hilarious

Clandestino
10-17-2005, 10:03 AM
in almost every society a farmer is going to be nicer than a city dweller.. that is a no brainer.

but when you compare city folk to city folk, and small town farmer to farmer, then i'd say americans are nicer than euros... especially the fuckin germans.. those are some cold sobs... of course, until you get to know them.. after that, they are cool..

SWC Bonfire
10-17-2005, 10:13 AM
I thought that Germans were VERY friendly. Maybe it's because I'm a 6'-6" German Texan. :lol

Seriously, they all wanted to try out their English and came to talk to me. I would go to a restaurant and they would give me free stuff and always wanted me to try the local beer (multiple times on the house). They are proud of their communities and you have to respect that. You have to know how to have a conversation with them in the "structured" German way.:tu