Jamaal Franklin

[AztecSpur]

Just heard over on Aztec Mesa board that Jamaal Franklin is working out with the Spurs. Any info would be appreciated.

My favorite Aztec next to Kawhi.

[paperboy77]

Never liked 6-5 thooting guards. Although this dude looks like he hits the boards pretty good. Summer League invite I hope.

[Chinook]

Lol really?

[tonight...you]

Lol really?
Expound please.

[exstatic]

He did everything at SDSU except shoot the 3 pointer. His last year, they ran the offense through him, and his position was PF. If they think Simmons is gone, there aren't many better options for a cheap development project. He's almost 26, but unlike Simmons at that age, he has some NBA experience.

[rasuo214]

If he has matured and improved his shot he'd be a guy to look at. Athletic and played out of position a lot in college because it was needed. His numbers looked good in the Chinese League, he's easily better than Jimmer...

[SnakeBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=69&v=IBiAcs6btVQ

[BatManu20]

Franklin is 25 year-old SG (almost 26) that has spent the last 4 years in China. He's 6'5 191 lbs with a 6'11 wingspan and a ridiculous 8'7 1/2 inch standing reach. He led the China league in assists at almost 9 per. Was drafted in the 2nd round of the 2013 NBA draft out of San Diego State by the Grizzlies. College teammate of Kawhi's.

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Had a pair of 60-pt Triple-Doubles in China last season.

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[tonight...you]

Why are you repeatedly posting shit that cannot be played man? I wanna watch!

[dabom]

Why are you repeatedly posting shit that cannot be played man? I wanna watch!

I agree. :lol

[tonight...you]

I agree. :lol
Mah bro. How you been man?

[illusioNtEk]

Never liked 6-5 thooting guards. Although this dude looks like he hits the boards pretty good. Summer League invite I hope.

Bradley Beal is 6'5 and he beast af

[dabom]

Mah bro. How you been man?

Alcoholic. Pretty good.

[rasuo214]

Had a pair of 60-pt Triple-Doubles in China last season.

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[picnroll]

Never liked 6-5 thooting guards. Although this dude looks like he hits the boards pretty good. Summer League invite I hope.

Jamall Franklin height 6'4" wingspan 6' 11 1/24". standing reach 8' 7 1/2"
Jonathon Simmons height 6' 4 1/2" wingspan 6' 7/12" standing reach 8' 5 1/2"

[tonight...you]

Alcoholic. Pretty good.
Effing word. I make massive coin being an alcoholic. And then drink lots of medicinal tea everyday. No idea if that shit works.

[sasaint]

I really like the fact that he was Kawhi's teammate - assuming they got along.

[Play Boban]

Who cares?

[GSH]

I really like the fact that he was Kawhi's teammate - assuming they got along.


The Spurs took LJC because of a Tony Parker recommendation. I hope Kawhi is a better judge of talent. I don't know anything about him, TBH, but I do know that guys get protective of college teammates.

Still, if the Spurs are going to find a sleeper, it means someone that nobody else is really high on.

[bluebellmaniac]

Expound please.

Manu is 6' 5".

[paperboy77]

Bradley Beal is 6'5 and he beast af

That's about the only 6-5 SG I could think was an exception. Other than that even historically ... nada. All specialists/ journeymen. Even Fat Lever came to mind... I thought he was 6-5 but was actually only 6-3.

[paperboy77]

Not sure what you're getting at. Simmons is not some all-star. Love the guy and root for him... hope he becomes that good but really he is just a bench player. Good game every now and then.. like role players do. Right? Now if you're talking point guards like that then that's totally different. Like Murray.

[paperboy77]

Manu is 6' 5".

Manu is 6-6. Just watch any game and compare him to any 6-6 dude. He ain't that small.

[picnroll]

Just a random sampling
Dwayne Wade 6' 3 3/4"
Tony Allen 6' 3"
James Harden 6' 5"
JJ Reddick 6' 4
Tyler Johnson 6' 4"
Jamal Murray 6' 4"

None of these guys have Franklin's wingspan. Height isn't what would keep him out of the league.

[tmtcsc]

No way is Tony Allen only 6'3

[picnroll]

No way is Tony Allen only 6'3
You may be right. Official NBA site lists him as 6' 4"

[Ice009]

Never liked 6-5 thooting guards. Although this dude looks like he hits the boards pretty good. Summer League invite I hope.

6'5" isn't small for a shooting guard. What do you mean?

[palangi]

That's about the only 6-5 SG I could think was an exception. Other than that even historically ... nada. All specialists/ journeymen. Even Fat Lever came to mind... I thought he was 6-5 but was actually only 6-3.

Avery Bradley is 6'3"
CJ McCollum is only 6'3"

[tholdren]

6'5" isn't small for a shooting guard. What do you mean?

Dude be retarded.

[paperboy77]

6'5" isn't small for a shooting guard. What do you mean?

Well none of these guys are actually small people. Just an opinion or at least the way I've perceived it.

[tholdren]

Well none of these guys are actually small people. Just an opinion or at least the way I've perceived it.

6'5 is the avg height of a 2

[ceperez]

Jamall Franklin height 6'4" wingspan 6' 11 1/24". standing reach 8' 7 1/2"
Jonathon Simmons height 6' 4 1/2" wingspan 6' 7/12" standing reach 8' 5 1/2"

Thanks.... he won't have Simmons athleticism, but we know from our experience with Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard that long arms make a big difference in defense.

[AztecSpurHoops]

Thanks.... he won't have Simmons athleticism, but we know from our experience with Danny Green and Kawhi Leonard that long arms make a big difference in defense.
I think he does...
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[AztecSpur]

JF's wingspan is 6'11 1/4"

He was originally drafted by Memphis in 2013, injured his ankle and wasn't able to perform. Since then he's worked out with several teams including Denver, Nets, Lakers, never heard why he didn't stick, but from what I've gleemed his 3 pt jump shot needed work. Hopefully he's fixed it. I'm curious why you never hear what happens from these team workouts. Anyway I'm pulling for him.

[tonight...you]

Manu is 6' 5".
Thank you, but I was hoping there was more to that comment. Just his height and nothing more? Huh...

[picnroll]

JF's wingspan is 6'11 1/4"

He was originally drafted by Memphis in 2013, injured his ankle and wasn't able to perform. Since then he's worked out with several teams including Denver, Nets, Lakers, never heard why he didn't stick, but from what I've gleemed his 3 pt jump shot needed work. Hopefully he's fixed it. I'm curious why you never hear what happens from these team workouts. Anyway I'm pulling for him.

Was also in the Spurs training camp in Sept 2014

[tonight...you]

Was also in the Spurs training camp in Sept 2014
And old boy can't stick anywhere, but overseas? Been here, tried that and nothing?

I don't know...

[exstatic]

2014 was a terrible time to make our roster. Coming off the LoB, I think we turned maybe one roster spot. You can also make more money overseas than as an NBA end of bencher.

[Chinook]

2014 was a terrible time to make our roster. Coming off the LoB, I think we turned maybe one roster spot. You can also make more money overseas than as an NBA end of bencher.

Yes, that year, only Kyle was added to replace Damion James. Daye would later be cut, but he had a guaranteed deal by then. Honestly, Franklin has been a bust so far, which is why I'm extremely apathetic about him. People here have been hyping him for year now, though.

[SAGirl]

Yes, that year, only Kyle was added to replace Damion James. Daye would later be cut, but he had a guaranteed deal by then. Honestly, Franklin has been a bust so far, which is why I'm extremely apathetic about him. People here have been hyping him for year now, though.
I restrained myself from sharing previously that I had watched a couple of his games in the dleague against the Austin Spurs back in 2015. Kyle sonned him on both ends. Franklin lost both. He did stand out as an aggressive scorer with the ball in his hands.

I do recall him as more ball dominant than Simms and Kyle at the time if you can believe it. More than any physical attribute which were unremarkable IMO, it was his aggressiveness that stood out. However, not really someone I am excited about. Hanga intrigues me more if we are talking about older NBA prospects.

I don't know how he's improved since then. That was 2 years ago but playing in China... ehhh.

[AztecSpur]

But not a bad bust at 1.5mil. if u don't mind egg foo yung��

[tonight...you]

I restrained myself from sharing previously that I had watched a couple of his games in the dleague against the Austin Spurs back in 2015. Kyle sonned him on both ends. Franklin lost both. He did stand out as an aggressive scorer with the ball in his hands.

I do recall him as more ball dominant than Simms and Kyle at the time if you can believe it. More than any physical attribute which were unremarkable IMO, it was his aggressiveness that stood out. However, not really someone I am excited about. Hanga intrigues me more if we are talking about older NBA prospects.

I don't know how he's improved since then. That was 2 years ago but playing in China... ehhh.
Good stuff.

[MannyIsGod]

He did everything at SDSU except shoot the 3 pointer. His last year, they ran the offense through him, and his position was PF. If they think Simmons is gone, there aren't many better options for a cheap development project. He's almost 26, but unlike Simmons at that age, he has some NBA experience.

He was never a PF for SDSU.

I hate this guy. He's the worst type of player the Spurs could bring in. Ball dominant guard who never did anything with any efficiency and was a bitch ass punk on the court as well. No thanks.

[BackHome]

I would be excited if he was playing in a good league but China.....eh.......

[exstatic]

He was never a PF for SDSU.

I hate this guy. He's the worst type of player the Spurs could bring in. Ball dominant guard who never did anything with any efficiency and was a bitch ass punk on the court as well. No thanks.
From his D/X profile:


Perhaps what stands out most about Franklin are his incredible rebounding numbers, as he pulled down 11.3 rebounds per-40 as a junior, which was easily the best mark of any shooting guard prospect in our Top-100 rankings. Some of this was out of necessity, as the Aztecs needed his rebounding from the power forward position due to a lack of size in their frontcourt, but his tenacity crashing the boards and pursuing the ball out of his area is very impressive nonetheless for a wing player. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jamaal-Franklin-17500/ ©DraftExpress

[rasuo214]

He was never a PF for SDSU.

I hate this guy. He's the worst type of player the Spurs could bring in. Ball dominant guard who never did anything with any efficiency and was a bitch ass punk on the court as well. No thanks.

UNM fan? And yes he did play at PF. Don't know if he's good enough for a roster spot but it's worth a look. He is a hard worker (something he learned from Kawhi) and has a great motor so it would be worth it to see how much he has improved. His attitude issues are sort of like Westbrook where opposing fans tend to hate him.

A couple articles on him during his college years:

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sdut-calkins-can-you-root-for-jamaal-franklin-2013mar20-story.html

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/aztecs/sdut-jamaal-franklin-aztecs-draft-calkins-2013jun27-story.html

[John B]

If we are gutting the team to bring in a FA, Spurs looking for possible replacements with better defense and who are not offensive liability. This guy seems a good fit

[tholdren]

I restrained myself from sharing previously that I had watched a couple of his games in the dleague against the Austin Spurs back in 2015. Kyle sonned him on both ends. Franklin lost both. He did stand out as an aggressive scorer with the ball in his hands.

I do recall him as more ball dominant than Simms and Kyle at the time if you can believe it. More than any physical attribute which were unremarkable IMO, it was his aggressiveness that stood out. However, not really someone I am excited about. Hanga intrigues me more if we are talking about older NBA prospects.

I don't know how he's improved since then. That was 2 years ago but playing in China... ehhh.

I agree. Hanga versus franklin the choice is obvious. Get someone who wont dominate the ball and plays defense.

[BSfromTX]

Don't see may passing highlights. This team needs a passing playmaker to replace Manu. Kid looks like a very poor mans Hardin without passing. Definitely a scorer, but not sure how we could use him unless we lose Simmons

[GSH]

And old boy can't stick anywhere, but overseas? Been here, tried that and nothing?

I don't know...


One of my favorite examples was Anthony Parker. Couldn't make it in the NBA, so he went to play for Maccabi for 5-6 years, and worked his ass off. I saw him play when I was over there, and I was just crying for the Spurs to pick him up. When he came back to the NBA, he was a damned solid player. He started for Toronto and was a major factor in them winning their first division title ever. Then he went to Cleveland and become a starter on the team with the best record in the league. He was never a star-caliber player, but he was exactly the kind of supporting cast you want on your team.

The point is, there are guys who have gone to Europe and become MUCH better players than they were. Not all of them want or try to come back to the NBA, but there are more than a few that could. I don't know about Franklin, but I sure as hell wouldn't rule him out just because he went to play in Europe. No more than I would discount him for being 6'5" tall.

[tonight...you]

One of my favorite examples was Anthony Parker. Couldn't make it in the NBA, so he went to play for Maccabi for 5-6 years, and worked his ass off. I saw him play when I was over there, and I was just crying for the Spurs to pick him up. When he came back to the NBA, he was a damned solid player. He started for Toronto and was a major factor in them winning their first division title ever. Then he went to Cleveland and become a starter on the team with the best record in the league. He was never a star-caliber player, but he was exactly the kind of supporting cast you want on your team.

The point is, there are guys who have gone to Europe and become MUCH better players than they were. Not all of them want or try to come back to the NBA, but there are more than a few that could. I don't know about Franklin, but I sure as hell wouldn't rule him out just because he went to play in Europe. No more than I would discount him for being 6'5" tall.
That's fair.

[SAGirl]

One of my favorite examples was Anthony Parker. Couldn't make it in the NBA, so he went to play for Maccabi for 5-6 years, and worked his ass off. I saw him play when I was over there, and I was just crying for the Spurs to pick him up. When he came back to the NBA, he was a damned solid player. He started for Toronto and was a major factor in them winning their first division title ever. Then he went to Cleveland and become a starter on the team with the best record in the league. He was never a star-caliber player, but he was exactly the kind of supporting cast you want on your team.

The point is, there are guys who have gone to Europe and become MUCH better players than they were. Not all of them want or try to come back to the NBA, but there are more than a few that could. I don't know about Franklin, but I sure as hell wouldn't rule him out just because he went to play in Europe. No more than I would discount him for being 6'5" tall.
He went to China...

[GSH]

He went to China...



Sorry. Not-NBA gets lumped in to "Europe", I guess. :D That's small-minded of me, but I'm not going to lie - that's how I got there. The point was that he wasn't good enough to make it in the NBA the first time around - but that doesn't mean that he couldn't be good enough now.

But I do think that if there aren't other teams competing for him, it's more likely that he would be one of those guys who spend a lot of time in Austin. When Anthony Parker came back, there was no doubt that he was going to be getting lots of minutes, if not starting. After going out and looking at Franklin a little, I think that's probably a lot more likely.

[MannyIsGod]

Running multiple guards in a lineup is not the same as playing power forward. The guy never did a damn thing that resembled playing like a power forward aside from getting rebounds.. I don't need to rely on a draft express profile because I am pretty sure I watched 15+ of his games every year he was at SDSU.

It wasn't just that opposing fans hated him, his own fans/coach got tired of his antics all the time. You can go back and find threads on SDSU boards lamenting his bullshit. Maybe he's grown up, but I doubt it. I still get a kick out of the SDSU fans who swore up and down he'd have a longer NBA career than my boy Tony Snell. To the poster who asked above, not a UNM fan, UNM alum.

[picnroll]

Running multiple guards in a lineup is not the same as playing power forward. The guy never did a damn thing that resembled playing like a power forward aside from getting rebounds.. I don't need to rely on a draft express profile because I am pretty sure I watched 15+ of his games every year he was at SDSU.

It wasn't just that opposing fans hated him, his own fans/coach got tired of his antics all the time. You can go back and find threads on SDSU boards lamenting his bullshit. Maybe he's grown up, but I doubt it. I still get a kick out of the SDSU fans who swore up and down he'd have a longer NBA career than my boy Tony Snell. To the poster who asked above, not a UNM fan, UNM alum.

Don't doubt anything you say but why do you think he's working out with the Spurs then? Favor to KL who might be the exception and like him?

[MannyIsGod]

Honestly no clue, but I really don't expect it to go very far unless he's much different than he was when he was at SDSU.