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BatManu20
06-17-2017, 01:33 PM
Draft's only 5 days away. Deepest draft in years and trade talks are heating up. Here we go.



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BatManu20
06-17-2017, 01:34 PM
Sixers not messing around.


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BatManu20
06-17-2017, 01:34 PM
Welp. Looks like it's a done deal lol


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BatManu20
06-17-2017, 01:35 PM
Sixers are going to have arguably the most talented young team in basketball..

PG - Fultz
SG - Whoever
SF - Ben Simmons
PF - Dario Saric
C - Joel Embiid

Covington coming off the bench. Better than the T-Wolves young core imo.

DPG21920
06-17-2017, 01:36 PM
Sixers are going to have arguably the most talented young team in basketball..

PG - Fultz
SG - Whoever
SF - Ben Simmons
PF - Dario Saric
C - Joel Embiid

Covington coming off the bench. Better than the T-Wolves young core imo.

Sucks that there is already such major health concerns with Simmons/Embiid though. House of cards, but a nice house.

BatManu20
06-17-2017, 01:37 PM
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BatManu20
06-17-2017, 01:51 PM
He'll be long gone imo.


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BatManu20
06-17-2017, 01:54 PM
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palangi
06-17-2017, 02:01 PM
Sixers are going to have arguably the most talented young team in basketball..

PG - Fultz
SG - Whoever
SF - Ben Simmons
PF - Dario Saric
C - Joel Embiid

Covington coming off the bench. Better than the T-Wolves young core imo.

Trade Danny Green to them for that SG spot. Send rishaun Holmes and their 2 early second rounders back.

Danny would fit in there nice.

palangi
06-17-2017, 02:03 PM
He'll be long gone imo.


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You never know.

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-17-2017, 02:17 PM
Still want Jonah Bolden, but he's been shooting up draft boards and leaving good impressions in workouts.

spursistan
06-17-2017, 02:27 PM
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IF the Lakers get Paul George this summer, Celtics are fucked :lol..

Mr. Body
06-17-2017, 04:34 PM
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Trading a lot for Butler would be a mistake. I don't think he does all that much for a team, although there's such little talent in the league right now what are you going to do?

BatManu20
06-17-2017, 07:07 PM
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Play Boban
06-17-2017, 07:09 PM
Spurs will draft a white tbh.

BatManu20
06-17-2017, 07:15 PM
Bummer, was a good draft-and-stash option for us. Smart decision though. He'll likely go much higher next year.


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duncan2150
06-17-2017, 07:16 PM
Spurs will draft a white tbh.


:rolleyes

sasaint
06-17-2017, 07:17 PM
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I like the lean of his body. Dude is on a mission.

sasaint
06-17-2017, 07:18 PM
Trade Danny Green to them for that SG spot. Send rishaun Holmes and their 2 early second rounders back.

Danny would fit in there nice.

I wish you were Philly's GM to agree to that robbery.

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-17-2017, 07:23 PM
Spurs will draft a white tbh.

Tbh I'll take anyone who isn't stashed for 3 years.

SAGirl
06-17-2017, 07:50 PM
Trade Danny Green to them for that SG spot. Send rishaun Holmes and their 2 early second rounders back.

Danny would fit in there nice.
Although they are young it wouldn't be a bad situation to send Danny to. They will be on the rise if healthy and they need veterans with championship experience.... much better than sending him to some team with no future...

ace3g
06-17-2017, 08:14 PM
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CGD
06-17-2017, 08:21 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCkHtD0XcAEt30_.jpg:large

Now that has the potential to be a super team in 3 years. Add Dario at the 4, dang.

ace3g
06-17-2017, 09:25 PM
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spursistan
06-17-2017, 09:25 PM
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First off-season domino fell by the looks of it..

CGD
06-17-2017, 09:31 PM
So I guess this means Chicago will be picking 3 and praying that Josh falls to them. Would be an excellent way to hit the reset button for that franchise.

Biggems
06-17-2017, 09:44 PM
I have 8 players that I am highly interested in.

C - Anzejs Pasecniks - Latvia 7'1 220
size, can play inside and out, rim protector we desperately need, athletic

PF - Isaiah Hartenstein - Germany 7'0 250
size, athletic, tough...outside game needs work

PF - Jordan Bell - Oregon 6'8 220
decent offensive player, outstanding rebounder, very good defender (I see him as being our Draymond Green)

G/F - Andrew White III - Syracuse 6'7 220
3-pt specialist, perimeter defender

G - Josh Hart - Villanova 6'5 210
3-pt shooter, nice mid-range game, can handle the rock, decent passer, very good defender

G - Canyon Barry - Florida 6'6 205
Highly intelligent, great Bball IQ, highly athletic, good size for his position, needs to be more consistent on offense

G - Derrick White - Colorado 6'4 190
very nice size for a PG, a good floor general, good perimeter defender

G - Kadeem Allen - Arizona 6'2 190
needs work with ball handling, but an outstanding defender (I mean a bulldog on defense)


If I had to pick my top 3 out of these
1. Pasecniks
2. Hart
3. Bell

I really wish we could get a few more picks in this draft.

TimDunkem
06-17-2017, 09:55 PM
^Your three picks are good but the rest look like whiffs, tbh.

picnroll
06-17-2017, 10:07 PM
Hartenstein will be a bust. Pass.

TimDunkem
06-17-2017, 10:08 PM
^Yep agreed. I'm almost certain of it.

cjw
06-17-2017, 10:17 PM
So I guess this means Chicago will be picking 3 and praying that Josh falls to them. Would be an excellent way to hit the reset button for that franchise.

I guess it's better to go with the sure thing than to hope you can sign Hayward or Griffin. But it's going to cost them the #3 and then some, plus take up that max salary slot.

Butler only hits them by $18.7mm. After waiving Zeller for nothing they'll still have just under $20 million of cap space. They can also free up about $3mm more with unguaranteed deals. There will be suitors for Bradley and Crowder too that can free up to the $30ish million max.

So could be looking at Thomas, Butler, Hayward/Griffin, Jaylen Brown and Horford with Bradley, Smart and Rozier off the bench (will need more size)

SPURt
06-17-2017, 10:21 PM
Spurs will draft a white tbh.
Which one are you thinking gets drafted, Derrick or Andrew? I don't want either of them tbh fwiw.

picnroll
06-17-2017, 10:24 PM
So could be looking at Thomas, Butler, Hayward/Griffin, Jaylen Brown and Horford with Bradley, Smart and Rozier off the bench (will need more size)
Ring chasing bigs for vet minimum are a dime a dozen.

TimDunkem
06-17-2017, 10:33 PM
^It's like people forget how the NBA works every off-season.

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-17-2017, 10:42 PM
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Philly murdered this deal. Wtf Ainge.

SAGirl
06-17-2017, 11:05 PM
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Philly murdered this deal. Wtf Ainge.
Don't know what's up until we see the rest of Ainge's moves.

DPG21920
06-17-2017, 11:09 PM
Forget what BOS did (I see why they did it, but I would have moved IT for an asset and kept #1 IMO), this is about what PHI did.

When it's all said and done what they traded for this #1 pick was incredible (think it was MCW & #5 pick basically)

DPG21920
06-17-2017, 11:14 PM
Lakers tried to get into the deal because the love Fultz. They must really not be sold on Russell which is crazy. I don't think they move Russ either, I think they view him as a 2-guard.

But wild they have a young lottery pick PG and are so anxious for another already. Does not bode well and I wonder what value he has on the trade market.

They may luck into taking Ball too. He has baggage (not just dad, but coming into workouts out of shape reportedly which is insane), but he projects to be a pretty damn good player statistically.

Play Boban
06-18-2017, 01:11 AM
Which one are you thinking gets drafted, Derrick or Andrew? I don't want either of them tbh fwiw.
Not sure tbh. Lots of white, though. PATFO has to appeal to the klan faction of the Spurs' fanbase tbh.

BG_Spurs_Fan
06-18-2017, 02:32 AM
So Philly are sending another very high pick to move from 3 to 1 - this is costly, but if they love Fultz that much is understandable. However, if Boston are accumulating these picks to send for Butler, why would Chicago prefer them over the 1st pick from this draft? Perhaps they're not high on Fultz.

Also, to make the numbers work Boston would have to send either Bradley or Crowder.

Darius Bieber
06-18-2017, 09:21 AM
I see a few mock drafts saying the Spurs might get Monte Morris with their second round pick. He had the highest assist to turnover ratio in the NCAA and should be seasoned as he was a four year college player. He might be a solid PG to back up Dejounte for the future. And it's a pretty late pick anyways, so it doesn't matter if he busts.

cjw
06-18-2017, 09:33 AM
So Philly are sending another very high pick to move from 3 to 1 - this is costly, but if they love Fultz that much is understandable. However, if Boston are accumulating these picks to send for Butler, why would Chicago prefer them over the 1st pick from this draft? Perhaps they're not high on Fultz.

Also, to make the numbers work Boston would have to send either Bradley or Crowder.

They actually wouldn't. Boston is under the cap (assuming they renounce guys, which they will) and cut Zeller before 7/2. Chicago wouldn't have to take back salary and could get a trade exception.

I do expect one of Bradley or Crowder to be dealt though to make room for another FA on top of Butler.

BG_Spurs_Fan
06-18-2017, 09:53 AM
They actually wouldn't. Boston is under the cap (assuming they renounce guys, which they will) and cut Zeller before 7/2. Chicago wouldn't have to take back salary and could get a trade exception.

I do expect one of Bradley or Crowder to be dealt though to make room for another FA on top of Butler.

They'll be significantly under the cap after July 1st. As of the draft they'll be only a million or so under the cap so they couldn't pull off the Butler trade without including an impact player as well as the pick(s). And if they draft and sign their guy they'll have to wait for a while before being able to trade him, just like Cavs had to wait for the Love trade until some time in august ( unless they've changed this in the new CBA).

CGD
06-18-2017, 10:20 AM
I guess it's better to go with the sure thing than to hope you can sign Hayward or Griffin. But it's going to cost them the #3 and then some, plus take up that max salary slot.

Butler only hits them by $18.7mm. After waiving Zeller for nothing they'll still have just under $20 million of cap space. They can also free up about $3mm more with unguaranteed deals. There will be suitors for Bradley and Crowder too that can free up to the $30ish million max.

So could be looking at Thomas, Butler, Hayward/Griffin, Jaylen Brown and Horford with Bradley, Smart and Rozier off the bench (will need more size)

If it comes to fruition, that's a good use of cumulative assets by Boston after years of wondering what the plan was. Phillys plan is also coming together nicely (on paper anyway).

#trustdaprocess

CGD
06-18-2017, 11:05 AM
Also, it's starting to feel like Ball will go to SAC for some reason, either through Lakers moving the pick or him just falling. Pure gut feel.

I can see Lakers and BOS/CHI going Jackson 2 and Tatum 3, then PHX really having to mull whether to draft ANOTHER PG at 4 (incidentally, in that case, I'm calling PHX asap about LMA).

illusioNtEk
06-18-2017, 11:10 AM
This would be a good year to start collecting NBA cards.. where and when do you guys buy them at?

Spurs9
06-18-2017, 12:18 PM
This would be a good year to start collecting NBA cards.. where and when do you guys buy them at?
I used to collect pretty heavily high end stuff, numbered autos etc. Had a ton of spurs stuff but eventually sold it, I was spending too much on stuff. Haven't been following stuff lately of what good sets are out there, but there are a number of shops around SA that sell boxes. Theres a place still open sports cards plus. Lots of places online sell too, used to mainly get upperdeck stuff. Wouldn't mind picking up a box tbh but I might get sucked back into the game.

tholdren
06-18-2017, 12:30 PM
Lakers tried to get into the deal because the love Fultz. They must really not be sold on Russell which is crazy. I don't think they move Russ either, I think they view him as a 2-guard.

But wild they have a young lottery pick PG and are so anxious for another already. Does not bode well and I wonder what value he has on the trade market.

They may luck into taking Ball too. He has baggage (not just dad, but coming into workouts out of shape reportedly which is insane), but he projects to be a pretty damn good player statistically.

Dangelo russel is shitty. Terribble pg.

DPG21920
06-18-2017, 12:31 PM
At this point, it does not seem likely that BOS made this trade with getting a star in mind. Think about it - the #1 pick is certainly more valuable than the #3 pick so that would actually hurt them.

Yes, they picked up another first rounder in the deal however, they already had a boat load of picks which is more than enough to trade for Butler/PG.

So I think it was more about the fact that Ainge really didn't want to be forced into taking Fultz/Ball and he very well could still end up with Ball at #3 while getting an extra pick.

JMarkJohns
06-18-2017, 01:27 PM
^Your three picks are good but the rest look like whiffs, tbh.

Allen is probably a top-10 defender in the draft. 6-2, but 6-10 wingspan, strong, built sturdy to take contact. Quality 3-point shooter, good around the basket when slashing. He dominated Fultz defensively in Early February, and shut down several other 20ppg types a few times.

Probably limited to PGs and smaller SGs, but so wing versatility isn't there, but DraftExpress likes him a lot as a developmental prospect for new Flex Contracts.

Not sure I'd draft him. I'd rather use 2nds on immediate impact or draft/stash, but just like TJ McConnell, he's worth a signing and extended look.

JMarkJohns
06-18-2017, 01:36 PM
When Allen Defended Fultz he went 6-21 with few FTs.

When Allen didnt defend Fultz he went 9-19 with 15 FTs.

illusioNtEk
06-18-2017, 02:00 PM
I used to collect pretty heavily high end stuff, numbered autos etc. Had a ton of spurs stuff but eventually sold it, I was spending too much on stuff. Haven't been following stuff lately of what good sets are out there, but there are a number of shops around SA that sell boxes. Theres a place still open sports cards plus. Lots of places online sell too, used to mainly get upperdeck stuff. Wouldn't mind picking up a box tbh but I might get sucked back into the game.
thanks man

BatManu20
06-18-2017, 05:56 PM
Who wants to trade for a one-year rental?

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picnroll
06-18-2017, 06:00 PM
Pritchard and Lakers playing a game. Pritchard trying to squeeze a better offer out of the Lakers by threatening a one year rental trade to another team so Lakers can't get Bird rights.

BatManu20
06-18-2017, 06:03 PM
This would be great if it were the NFL.


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BatManu20
06-18-2017, 06:09 PM
Other than the first 2 pics.

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GSH
06-18-2017, 07:05 PM
At this point, it does not seem likely that BOS made this trade with getting a star in mind. Think about it - the #1 pick is certainly more valuable than the #3 pick so that would actually hurt them.

Yes, they picked up another first rounder in the deal however, they already had a boat load of picks which is more than enough to trade for Butler/PG.

So I think it was more about the fact that Ainge really didn't want to be forced into taking Fultz/Ball and he very well could still end up with Ball at #3 while getting an extra pick.



I read a pretty good article that claimed that Ainge really is high on Jackson, and thinks he is the right fit for what he wants to do with this roster. Boston is already a pretty damned good team. So it sounds like he's focused on getting the right pieces, and thinks that's Jackson. If that's true, and he can get Jackson plus another first round pick? I think it's a pretty big risk, but Danny Ainge knows a hell of a lot more than I do, and Boston has made a LOT of smart moves building that roster.

I think there's close to zero chance that the Lakers pass on Ball anyway, but if they did I wonder what Ainge would do? Pick him, and then try to leverage for Jackson and even more assets? This has really fallen Boston's way so far.

GSH
06-18-2017, 07:08 PM
This would be great if it were the NFL.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCm7PdoXsAAkYB0?format=jpg&name=large


That's just sick. I knew they were pick rich, but that's obscene.

cd98
06-18-2017, 09:13 PM
That's just sick. I knew they were pick rich, but that's obscene.

The haul they got for washed up Pierce and Garnet is embarrassing GM fail.

Spurtacular
06-18-2017, 09:17 PM
I mostly just watch to see if the Spurs draft a diamond in the rough; because I know it could be the difference between a ring and a second round exit.

CGD
06-18-2017, 09:34 PM
This would be great if it were the NFL.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCm7PdoXsAAkYB0?format=jpg&name=large

That is just nuts. Those LAC and MEM have the potential to be sneaky good.

Snaq O'Meal
06-18-2017, 09:42 PM
The haul they got for washed up Pierce and Garnet is embarrassing GM fail.

Boston's front office loved to recycle old trash. PATFO, otoh, loved to hoard them.

BG_Spurs_Fan
06-19-2017, 01:33 AM
It'd be pretty hilarious if Lakers call Boston's bluff and take Jackson 2nd :lol Don't think Magic would have the balls though. They should hire Hinkie in the next couple of days.

duncan2150
06-19-2017, 03:34 AM
That is just nuts. Those LAC and MEM have the potential to be sneaky good.

Both are protected, their best picks are the brooklyn one and maybe sacramento 2019 ( depends on the lakers 2018).

BatManu20
06-19-2017, 02:02 PM
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BatManu20
06-19-2017, 02:03 PM
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HarlemHeat37
06-19-2017, 03:21 PM
Love what the Celtics are doing, tbh, even knowing the risks that accompany high-drafted players..

Adding players like Hayward and Butler still doesn't give them any shot at a title..they weren't even in Cleveland's league, let alone GS..might as well wait out LeBron's prime and the Warriors' eventual decline..

It's especially nice because their team will remain near the top of the East, which avoids the usual scrutiny towards a rebuilding team..

TheGreatYacht
06-19-2017, 03:55 PM
Ainge has a terrible draft history :lol

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Imagine loving what he's doing...

Stockpiling picks for the future when your 2 best players are 28 and 31 years old.

GSH
06-19-2017, 04:26 PM
Ainge has a terrible draft history :lol


Some of those were draft day trades, IIRC. (Nogueira plus a crappy second round pick is how they got Olynyk.) About a third of them were picks in the last 5 slots in each round, which aren't exactly high-expectation picks. (Giddens, for instance, was a reasonable gamble at the 30 slot, regardless of how he worked out.) Zizic was a pretty good pick as a draft and stash. Yabusele is one of those risk/reward guys, but he's supposed to get a shot this year.

I don't know who Dave @HurkaDoesSports is, but I think he should post up his draft picks for the last 10 years, just to be fair and all. Somehow, with all the incompetence, Ainge has put together a pretty decent team.

DPG21920
06-19-2017, 04:52 PM
Love what the Celtics are doing, tbh, even knowing the risks that accompany high-drafted players..

Adding players like Hayward and Butler still doesn't give them any shot at a title..they weren't even in Cleveland's league, let alone GS..might as well wait out LeBron's prime and the Warriors' eventual decline..

It's especially nice because their team will remain near the top of the East, which avoids the usual scrutiny towards a rebuilding team..

Problem is how long do you wait? You are also about to have to pay a ton to IT and Bradley and some of their younger guys.

CGD
06-19-2017, 05:00 PM
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Wonder what PHX is thinking. Would love to send them LMA for assets, if they're thinking they want to "win now."

DPG21920
06-19-2017, 05:01 PM
Wonder what PHX is thinking. Would love to send them LMA for assets, if they're thinking they want to "win now."

PHX needs another PG :lol

HarlemHeat37
06-19-2017, 05:09 PM
Problem is how long do you wait? You are also about to have to pay a ton to IT and Bradley and some of their younger guys.

I wouldn't keep either of those guys, tbh..

DPG21920
06-19-2017, 05:11 PM
I wouldn't keep either of those guys, tbh..

Sure, but that is the problem with waiting. Those guys (the real talent so far) are going to want to get paid. No guarantee you get anything good for them (doesnt seem willing to trade them or why the hell would you trade the #1 pick instead of just trading IT now?).

So if you are operating under the assumption you aren't keeping those guys, then you are in a bit of a hot mess with this whole thing.

HarlemHeat37
06-19-2017, 05:14 PM
Sure, but that is the problem with waiting. Those guys (the real talent so far) are going to want to get paid. No guarantee you get anything good for them (doesnt seem willing to trade them or why the hell would you trade the #1 pick instead of just trading IT now?).

So if you are operating under the assumption you aren't keeping those guys, then you are in a bit of a hot mess with this whole thing.

I agree about IT, I've been saying they should have already been shopping him..the problem with him is that he has already developed a cult following in Boston..they waited too long to move him, now it's tricky..

I don't think Bradley is relevant to their plans, though..he's a nice player, but he's now in that awkward spot where he's too good to be a role player, but not good enough to be a top guy, as we have seen throughout NBA history..

DPG21920
06-19-2017, 05:27 PM
I agree about IT, I've been saying they should have already been shopping him..the problem with him is that he has already developed a cult following in Boston..they waited too long to move him, now it's tricky..

I don't think Bradley is relevant to their plans, though..he's a nice player, but he's now in that awkward spot where he's too good to be a role player, but not good enough to be a top guy, as we have seen throughout NBA history..

I just don't think BOS can wait out Lebron GS. That could be 2-5 years. That is far too long even with having all the picks because of what you will lose.

Have to take your shot while still doing the best you can (they still have a ton of draft picks).

They should have traded IT, gotten a player or pick, drafted their PG of the future on a rookie deal, then built from there. But who knows where they are headed and what moves they make.

keithington1
06-19-2017, 05:57 PM
@29 1)Ojeleye 2)Bolden 3)Evans 4)Motley 5)Bradley 6)Jackson

tholdren
06-19-2017, 06:08 PM
Love what the Celtics are doing, tbh, even knowing the risks that accompany high-drafted players..

Adding players like Hayward and Butler still doesn't give them any shot at a title..they weren't even in Cleveland's league, let alone GS..might as well wait out LeBron's prime and the Warriors' eventual decline..

It's especially nice because their team will remain near the top of the East, which avoids the usual scrutiny towards a rebuilding team..

Lol

ducks
06-19-2017, 06:38 PM
Report: Suns trying to trade up to draft Lonzo Ball
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/report-suns-trying-to-trade-up-to-draft-lonzo-ball/ar-BBCTyOj?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

CGD
06-19-2017, 07:31 PM
Would you trade 29 to Philly for Okafor?

Nate Duncan mentioned him on his Pod as a good fit here and his value being at an all time low. Wouldn't mind it if we also planned on moving LMA.

picnroll
06-19-2017, 07:39 PM
Nate Duncan is a GS dick sucker. Why would Spurs want a zero defense big. Okafor is a piss poor version of LA. Let him go to GS.

Chinook
06-19-2017, 07:50 PM
I would do Gasol and 29 for Oak and feel really good about it.

CGD
06-19-2017, 07:51 PM
Nate Duncan is a GS dick sucker. Why would Spurs want a zero defense big. Okafor is a piss poor version of LA. Let him go to GS.

Ok, you hate Nate Duncan.

But I don't think Okafor for a small asset is that ridiculous of an idea. Dude has had a shit go of it since being drafted, and might be worth seeing what he could do in a new setting.

objective
06-19-2017, 07:52 PM
Nate Duncan is a GS dick sucker. Why would Spurs want a zero defense big. Okafor is a piss poor version of LA. Let him go to GS.

It's funny because of how much he shat on the Spurs for getting Gasol and his defense, meanwhile Okafor makes Pau look like Tim Duncan.

DPG21920
06-19-2017, 07:54 PM
Ok, you hate Nate Duncan.

But I don't think Okafor for a small asset is that ridiculous of an idea. Dude has had a shit go of it since being drafted, and might be worth seeing what he could do in a new setting.

He's had a sh*t go of it because he has a sh*t work ethic. That said, it's a fine gamble but one in which I would have very little expectation of.

CGD
06-19-2017, 07:54 PM
I would do Gasol and 29 for Oak and feel really good about it.

Me too. The scenario they were spitballing about was part of a sign & trade with J. Simms.

DAF86
06-19-2017, 08:07 PM
I would do Gasol and 29 for Oak and feel really good about it.

Stop trying to get bigmen that need the ball on their hands. Those type of bigmen are only worth getting if they have 1st tier talent or potential. Okafor (if that's the guy you are talking about, if not disregard this whole comment :lol) just isn't that kind of player.

Chinook
06-19-2017, 08:13 PM
Stop trying to get bigmen that need the ball on their hands. Those type of bigmen are only worth getting if they have 1st tier talent or potential. Okafor (if that's the guy you are talking about, if not disregard this whole comment :lol) just isn't that kind of player.

The Spurs' idea with Gasol wasn't bad. Then wanted two post-up bigs to force GS to play big. By and large, they did that even while getting their shit pushed in without Kawhi. The issue is that Pau is old, expensive and hates posting up. Seeing as we've been talking about the Spurs paying to get rid of Pau anyway, it seems like moving him for Oak accomplishes both what we want as fans and Pop seems to want as a coach.

If anything, Oak is like a Bazarro LMA. Dude is not very diverse and kind dumb in terms of BBIQ and life. But he's not soft, and he'll take the ball inside any time he touches it.

DAF86
06-19-2017, 08:19 PM
The Spurs' idea with Gasol wasn't bad. Then wanted two post-up bigs to force GS to play big. By and large, they did that even while getting their shit pushed in without Kawhi. The issue is that Pau is old, expensive and hates posting up. Seeing as we've been talking about the Spurs paying to get rid of Pau anyway, it seems like moving him for Oak accomplishes both what we want as fans and Pop seems to want as a coach.

If anything, Oak is like a Bazarro LMA. Dude is not very diverse and kind dumb in terms of BBIQ and life. But he's not soft, and he'll take the ball inside any time he touches it.

Okafor would be a terrible get. And if Pop's idea to beat GS is to have two post up bigs then he needs to change strategy asap. That's not the way to beat GS, much less with Softdridge and Gasoft or Dumbkafor.

Chinook
06-19-2017, 08:29 PM
Okafor would be a terrible get. And if Pop's idea to beat GS is to have two post up bigs then he needs to change strategy asap. That's not the way to beat GS, much less with Softdridge and Gasoft or Dumbkafor.

I actually think that having two bigs who CAN post up is a perfectly fine strategy. Aldridge and Okafor post up in completely different ways, though. You don't see Oak shooting jumpers. Dude makes quick moves and doesn't shy away from contact. There are certainly things he needs to add to be a complete offensive player, but his game on that end is damned interesting. I'd love to see what Tim could do.

D is a different story, though.

DPG21920
06-19-2017, 08:32 PM
I actually think that having two bigs who CAN post up is a perfectly fine strategy. Aldridge and Okafor post up in completely different ways, though. You don't see Oak shooting jumpers. Dude makes quick moves and doesn't shy away from contact. There are certainly things he needs to add to be a complete offensive player, but his game on that end is damned interesting. I'd love to see what Tim could do.

D is a different story, though.

WTF is PHX doing trying to get another PG?

CGD
06-19-2017, 08:33 PM
Okafor would be a terrible get. And if Pop's idea to beat GS is to have two post up bigs then he needs to change strategy asap. That's not the way to beat GS, much less with Softdridge and Gasoft or Dumbkafor.

What is the way to beat GSW? It sure as hell isn't trying to out smallball them. The dual post strategy has actually given them fits; we just have less than ideal bigs.

mo7888
06-19-2017, 08:33 PM
I actually think that having two bigs who CAN post up is a perfectly fine strategy. Aldridge and Okafor post up in completely different ways, though. You don't see Oak shooting jumpers. Dude makes quick moves and doesn't shy away from contact. There are certainly things he needs to add to be a complete offensive player, but his game on that end is damned interesting. I'd love to see what Tim could do.

D is a different story, though.

I don't think he'll ever great great on the defensive end but, I do think he can improve and become a good team defensive player.

DPG21920
06-19-2017, 08:34 PM
I actually think that having two bigs who CAN post up is a perfectly fine strategy. Aldridge and Okafor post up in completely different ways, though. You don't see Oak shooting jumpers. Dude makes quick moves and doesn't shy away from contact. There are certainly things he needs to add to be a complete offensive player, but his game on that end is damned interesting. I'd love to see what Tim could do.

D is a different story, though.

WTF is PHX doing trying to get another PG?

Maybe PHX knows they can fleece Magic :wow

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Chinook
06-19-2017, 08:35 PM
WTF is PHX doing trying to get another PG?

My guess is actually use him. They have some guys who clearly aren't long-term answers and a maybe in Ulis. While I don't see why they need to trade up for him, I can totally understand taking Ball to go with Booker, Chriss and Bender.

Chinook
06-19-2017, 08:36 PM
WTF is PHX doing trying to get another PG?


WTF is PHX doing trying to get another PG?

Maybe PHX knows they can fleece Magic :wow

52149363379671042

All right.

Chinook
06-19-2017, 08:37 PM
I don't think he'll ever great great on the defensive end but, I do think he can improve and become a good team defensive player.

I think he can do what LMA and Gasol needed to do in the WCF. I'm sure he fucks up a lot or turns it over trying to make moves, but the Spurs have not had anyone who could post up like Oak in a long time.

SPURt
06-19-2017, 08:37 PM
I wish the Spurs could get Lonzo Ball (and Lavar by proxy)

tonight...you
06-19-2017, 08:38 PM
My guess is actually use him. They have some guys who clearly aren't long-term answers and a maybe in Ulis. While I don't see why they need to trade up for him, I can totally understand taking Ball to go with Booker, Chriss and Bender.
They should definitely be in the trade market, at least. Other than that... I guess they should rehire Hornacek.

tonight...you
06-19-2017, 08:39 PM
I wish the Spurs could get Lonzo Ball (and Lavar by proxy)
Why?

SPURt
06-19-2017, 09:02 PM
Why?
I know I'm in the minority and seriously not trolling but I like Lonzo's game. It's rare to see a prospect vault a team back to relevance without scoring being the main tool used. He makes his team better and I think would be great with Kawhi. TJ Leaf and Anigbogu are going to get drafted higher than they probably should because of Lonzo.

I actually think Lavar is smart. Particularly what he says about the game after UCLA was eliminated in the beginning of this interview with Skip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULgV9mnYMFQ

In another interview Max Kellerman asked Lavar "you're writing checks your son has to cash. The vets will want to go extra hard at your son" he responded something to the effect of "he might lose the first time but that's how he's going to learn and get better."

Then there was this commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPteUZfRrKw

Lonzo is known for being a good kid and teammate and they are playing the media like a drum. I also think Lavar will piss off the fans of every team Lonzo's team plays against. He's going to be a huge homer for whichever team Lonzo plays for. It'd definitely be fun. I'm pissed the Lakers are going to likely get him. I don't want to hate the kid by default.

tonight...you
06-19-2017, 09:20 PM
I know I'm in the minority and seriously not trolling but I like Lonzo's game. It's rare to see a prospect vault a team back to relevance without scoring being the main tool used. He makes his team better and I think would be great with Kawhi. TJ Leaf and Anigbogu are going to get drafted higher than they probably should because of Lonzo.

I actually think Lavar is smart. Particularly what he says about the game after UCLA was eliminated in the beginning of this interview with Skip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULgV9mnYMFQ


In another interview Max Kellerman asked Lavar "you're writing checks your son has to cash. The vets will want to go extra hard at your son" he responded something to the effect of "he might lose the first time but that's how he's going to learn and get better."

Then there was this commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPteUZfRrKw

Lonzo is known for being a good kid and teammate and they are playing the media like a drum. I also think Lavar will piss off the fans of every team Lonzo's team plays against. He's going to be a huge homer for whichever team Lonzo plays for. It'd definitely be fun. I'm pissed the Lakers are going to likely get him. I don't want to hate the kid by default.

Damn... great response. I feel ya bro.

DAF86
06-19-2017, 09:40 PM
What is the way to beat GSW? It sure as hell isn't trying to out smallball them. The dual post strategy has actually given them fits; we just have less than ideal bigs.

The way to beat them is to play elite, disciplined defense, while having the firepower to keep up with them. And that means perimeter guys that can attack the basket and shoot the three. Posting up is one of the least efficient plays in today's NBA, proven by numbers.

Spurs have the defensive personel and system to slow the Warriors down a bit, now they need a couple more offensive threats to put alongside Kawhi. And no, post up bigs aren't those kind of threats.

RD2191
06-19-2017, 09:44 PM
The way to beat them is to play elite, disciplined defense, while having the firepower to keep up with them. And that means perimeter guys that can attack the basket and shoot the three. Posting up is one of the least efficient plays in today's NBA, proven by numbers.
Because today's post players suck. Prime Tim/Drob would destroy the dubs.

Vic Petro
06-19-2017, 09:55 PM
I know I'm in the minority and seriously not trolling but I like Lonzo's game. It's rare to see a prospect vault a team back to relevance without scoring being the main tool used. He makes his team better and I think would be great with Kawhi. TJ Leaf and Anigbogu are going to get drafted higher than they probably should because of Lonzo.

I actually think Lavar is smart. Particularly what he says about the game after UCLA was eliminated in the beginning of this interview with Skip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULgV9mnYMFQ

In another interview Max Kellerman asked Lavar "you're writing checks your son has to cash. The vets will want to go extra hard at your son" he responded something to the effect of "he might lose the first time but that's how he's going to learn and get better."

Then there was this commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPteUZfRrKw

Lonzo is known for being a good kid and teammate and they are playing the media like a drum. I also think Lavar will piss off the fans of every team Lonzo's team plays against. He's going to be a huge homer for whichever team Lonzo plays for. It'd definitely be fun. I'm pissed the Lakers are going to likely get him. I don't want to hate the kid by default.

He won me over with "My wife wrote his resume!"

BatManu20
06-19-2017, 09:56 PM
Lakers trying to trade D'Angelo.


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SPURt
06-19-2017, 09:59 PM
He won me over with "My wife wrote his resume!"
Good thing Pop would never be the third in the Ball parents tricycle of sexual sadness

SAGirl
06-19-2017, 10:05 PM
I think he can do what LMA and Gasol needed to do in the WCF. I'm sure he fucks up a lot or turns it over trying to make moves, but the Spurs have not had anyone who could post up like Oak in a long time.
He's extremely lazy and dumb... he will get in the doghouse faster than Dedmon. He won't have LMA or Pau issues posting up guards so I see your point... but he can't guard the paint and you can't win like that as Pau also showed .
You know who posted up Curry right? Lol Danny :lol

Chinook
06-19-2017, 10:10 PM
I know that Hinkie's Sixers had a piss-poor culture, and the Coleangelo Sixers may not be much better. Oak seemed like a good enough kid in college. I don't know how he'll do when he's in another situation. But I'd rather have him and cap space than Pau right now.

SAGirl
06-19-2017, 10:12 PM
I know that Hinkie's Sixers had a piss-poor culture, and the Coleangelo Sixers may not be much better. Oak seemed like a good enough kid in college. I don't know how he'll do when he's in another situation. But I'd rather have him and cap space than Pau right now.
That's a good point. See what's there. He had scoring talent and his stock is low.... worth a flyer ... knowing he will still get Pop's shenanigans dleague, getting over himself, humbling and benching ... won't be treated any different than anyone else. Then you see what's really there when Pop is not looking to boost anyone's numbers and wants to stick to the plan....

DPG21920
06-19-2017, 10:16 PM
I know that Hinkie's Sixers had a piss-poor culture, and the Coleangelo Sixers may not be much better. Oak seemed like a good enough kid in college. I don't know how he'll do when he's in another situation. But I'd rather have him and cap space than Pau right now.

Random question. TP has one year on his deal so if stretched it would be his salary divided by 2 (this year left + 1 year) correct? So roughly 7.5M per year?

Chinook
06-19-2017, 10:20 PM
Random question. TP has one year on his deal so if stretched it would be his salary divided by 2 (this year left + 1 year) correct? So roughly 7.5M per year?

It's double plus one, so it's three years and $5 Million a year.

DPG21920
06-19-2017, 10:24 PM
It's double plus one, so it's three years and $5 Million a year.

Got ya - thanks.

Emperor
06-19-2017, 10:29 PM
It's double plus one, so it's three years and $5 Million a year.

Stretch that sh*t Frenchie. Please!

tholdren
06-19-2017, 10:30 PM
I know I'm in the minority and seriously not trolling but I like Lonzo's game. It's rare to see a prospect vault a team back to relevance without scoring being the main tool used. He makes his team better and I think would be great with Kawhi. TJ Leaf and Anigbogu are going to get drafted higher than they probably should because of Lonzo.

I actually think Lavar is smart. Particularly what he says about the game after UCLA was eliminated in the beginning of this interview with Skip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULgV9mnYMFQ

In another interview Max Kellerman asked Lavar "you're writing checks your son has to cash. The vets will want to go extra hard at your son" he responded something to the effect of "he might lose the first time but that's how he's going to learn and get better."

Then there was this commercial:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPteUZfRrKw

Lonzo is known for being a good kid and teammate and they are playing the media like a drum. I also think Lavar will piss off the fans of every team Lonzo's team plays against. He's going to be a huge homer for whichever team Lonzo plays for. It'd definitely be fun. I'm pissed the Lakers are going to likely get him. I don't want to hate the kid by default.

Lol. Would rather have jimmer than this pos.

tholdren
06-19-2017, 10:32 PM
Lakers trying to trade D'Angelo.


876703300120215552

876996442434535424

As they should. Total loser. Russel for kennard would be worse than hill for kawhi

SPURt
06-19-2017, 10:47 PM
Lol. Would rather have jimmer than this pos.
An opinion fit for a king

Ice009
06-19-2017, 11:36 PM
Okafor would be a terrible get. And if Pop's idea to beat GS is to have two post up bigs then he needs to change strategy asap. That's not the way to beat GS, much less with Softdridge and Gasoft or Dumbkafor.

I actually believe dominant post up bigs that can take it the rack with decisive moves and either finish and/or draw the foul is a great stategy to beat them. The problem is, there isn't too many of those guys in the NBA these days. That's why I wanted Demarcus Cousins the past trade deadline. He's one of the only bigs in the NBA that can still go inside and dominate on the block, but now he can also shoot the three ball too. I think he's the type of big you need against the Warriors. What is your strategy to be able to beat them?

You also have to control the pace and tempo of the game like Kawhi and the Spurs were doing in game one until Zaza did his dirty shit. It also goes without saying, your defense has to be great, especially out on the perimeter and not soft inside.

TheDoctor
06-19-2017, 11:43 PM
Because today's post players suck. Prime Tim/Drob would destroy the dubs.

Rookie TD would destroy the Dubs tbh.

TimDunkem
06-19-2017, 11:51 PM
Ice - except none of those three guys are anything like the hypothetical player you just described.

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-20-2017, 12:27 AM
The Jahlil Okafor hypothetical was based on the idea of a sign and trade with Simmons if he gets too pricey. I wouldn't mind Okafor for Simmons at all.

kobyz
06-20-2017, 07:15 AM
Wesley Iwundu is the exact the same player as Simmons only more polish and under control...

TimDunkem
06-20-2017, 10:27 AM
Wesley Iwundu is the exact the same player as Simmons only more polish and under control...
There will likely be a better player at 29.

ace3g
06-20-2017, 07:05 PM
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TimDunkem
06-20-2017, 07:52 PM
^MAYBE at #59.

Snaq O'Meal
06-20-2017, 09:05 PM
^MAYBE at #59.

I'll definitely take him at 59. The guy's a matchup nightmare. And he's NOT a 5 or even a 4. He's an oversized combo guard who can defend the post.

Uriel
06-20-2017, 09:48 PM
All indications now are that our pick will either be traded in a salary dump with Parker or stashed overseas.

cd021
06-21-2017, 12:13 AM
All indications now are that our pick will either be traded in a salary dump with Parker or stashed overseas.
I don't think Spurs would trade their pick, it's probably a stash situation.

Steve-O-Matic
06-21-2017, 12:22 AM
All indications now are that our pick will either be traded in a salary dump with Parker or stashed overseas.

There are no "indications" of that whatsoever, at least not the part about salary dumping Tony Parker.

cutewizard
06-21-2017, 05:35 AM
877269863189929984


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:bobo

raybies
06-21-2017, 08:10 AM
Im not sure the Spurs want to go small at the four but if they did he'd be the guy to do it(Deonte Burton). He's a freak of nature imo. A combo guard, at 250 that can guard the post and perimeter and rim protect and can handle and playmake. He'd be a nightmare matchup for a variety of people.

palangi
06-21-2017, 09:09 AM
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:bobo

This is the 3rd thread this guys highlights are posted in. A lot of excitement over a 6'5" PF. ???

raybies
06-21-2017, 09:13 AM
This is the 3rd thread this guys highlights are posted in. A lot of excitement over a 6'5" PF. ???
isnt Draymond the same height? This guy can do just about everything Draymond does yet has more athleticism. My honest opinion is he could be the Draymond of this draft with the right team.

duncan2150
06-21-2017, 09:24 AM
isnt Draymond the same height? This guy can do just about everything Draymond does yet has more athleticism. My honest opinion is he could be the Draymond of this draft with the right team.

Green is 6'7, if Burton can guard perimeter players then he can be good. Don't know much about his offense tough.

BatManu20
06-21-2017, 01:34 PM
Already liked his game. Now we know he's high IQ too. Draft him.

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tholdren
06-21-2017, 03:40 PM
Dude is ripped

keithington1
06-21-2017, 06:33 PM
Kevin Pelton's latest mock draft has us taking a prototype 3 and D guy from Northern Iowa named Jeremy Morgan. To replace D. Green I guess. He's a senior and his numbers are actually pretty crazy. He's NBA ready. Might be like G. Hill and little IUPUI.

CGD
06-21-2017, 07:08 PM
Green + 29 to Philly
Okafor + 36, 39, 46 to Spurs

Doesn't get you the full 10m of cap relief, but they also shed the caphold for 29.

keithington1
06-21-2017, 07:38 PM
@29 1)Ojeleye 2)Motley 3) Evans 4)Bolden

MaNu4Tres
06-21-2017, 08:25 PM
Green + 29 to Philly
Okafor + 36, 39, 46 to Spurs

Doesn't get you the full 10m of cap relief, but they also shed the caphold for 29.

No thanks.

Okafor sucks. His skillset has no value in todays' NBA.Can't defend and needs touches to be inefficiently effective offensively (can't be a factor w/out the ball).

rastaspur
06-21-2017, 08:42 PM
No thanks.

Okafor sucks. His skillset has no value in todays' NBA.Can't defend and needs touches to be inefficiently effective offensively (can't be a factor w/out the ball).

He is the center version of an antoine walker or jerry stackhouse. He just oozes inneficiency.

No thanks

CGD
06-21-2017, 08:48 PM
He is the center version of an antoine walker or jerry stackhouse. He just oozes inneficiency.

No thanks

I know he has his warts, but keep in mind we HAVE to move Green. I'd be interested in seeing what the kid has in a new environment. He's only 2 years out.

daslicer
06-21-2017, 09:00 PM
Green is 6'7, if Burton can guard perimeter players then he can be good. Don't know much about his offense tough.

Green is not a legit 6'7. He's 6'5-3/4. He's smaller in height than Kawhi.

objective
06-22-2017, 05:18 AM
Wish list:
First Round: guys who could conceivably be on the floor against Golden State in the playoffs be and not be run off the floor:

Jordan Bell
Jonah Bolden
Cam Oliver
Derrick White
Harry Giles

2nd round: Sterling Brown, maybe Jake Wiley, Charles Cooke, Luca Vildoza

Most of all I don't want any of the antiquated bigs who can't guard the pick and roll or switch at all or can't shoot threes while still adding defensive positives. Any guy whose biggest strength is rebounding is a fraud at the NBA level because that is so far down the skill priority list. Nobody cares about rebound only bigs, they're a joke and belong in the 90s. That can only be a supplement.

Definitely don't want a zero defense fatty like Swanigan. He's Blair all over again with better shooting and worse defense. Watch what happens when he gets a taste of Whataburger, he'll explode in a bad way. His DX video was comical when a strength was allegedly rim running, when all he could do was layups with guys on his ass, in the NBA he's not pulling them off, he's being chased down and blocked or prevented from attempting. He must be the only big in DX history whose transition scores and rim waddles are layups.

MaNu4Tres
06-22-2017, 05:32 AM
Wish list:
First Round: guys who could conceivably be on the floor against Golden State in the playoffs be and not be run off the floor:

Jordan Bell
Jonah Bolden
Cam Oliver
Derrick White
Harry Giles

2nd round: Sterling Brown, maybe Jake Wiley, Charles Cooke, Luca Vildoza

Most of all I don't want any of the antiquated bigs who can't guard the pick and roll or switch at all or can't shoot threes while still adding defensive positives. Any guy whose biggest strength is rebounding is a fraud at the NBA level because that is so far down the skill priority list. Nobody cares about rebound only bigs, they're a joke and belong in the 90s. That can only be a supplement.

Definitely don't want a zero defense fatty like Swanigan. He's Blair all over again with better shooting and worse defense. Watch what happens when he gets a taste of Whataburger, he'll explode in a bad way. His DX video was comical when a strength was allegedly rim running, when all he could do was layups with guys on his ass, in the NBA he's not pulling them off, he's being chased down and blocked or prevented from attempting. He must be the only big in DX history whose transition scores and rim waddles are layups.



Objective hits this out of the park.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 09:25 AM
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BatManu20
06-22-2017, 09:36 AM
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look_at_g_shred
06-22-2017, 09:37 AM
877890502716080128
LMA and Green to Boston :hat

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 09:37 AM
Happy Dirty 30 to Verde! As a gift, you might be traded :lol


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look_at_g_shred
06-22-2017, 09:38 AM
Fuck Green about to get traded on his bday :cry

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-22-2017, 09:40 AM
All indications now are that our pick will either be traded in a salary dump with Parker or stashed overseas.

LOL, what indications?

Parker isn't going anywhere.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 09:41 AM
Happy Dirty 30 to Verde! As a gift, you might be traded :lol


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NickiRasgo
06-22-2017, 11:20 AM
Happy Dirty 30 to Verde! As a gift, you might be traded :lol


877858981288398848

Damn. Hahah. Who's the recent player who was greeted by his team then gets traded? :lol

Uriel
06-22-2017, 11:26 AM
LOL, what indications?

Parker isn't going anywhere.
That post was written a couple of days ago before all this news about Aldridge and Green came out. It looked then like the Spurs were either going to dump Parker or Green. Now it's clear they're either going to dump Aldridge or Green.

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-22-2017, 11:28 AM
That post was written a couple of days ago before all this news about Aldridge and Green came out. It looked then like the Spurs were either going to dump Parker or Green. Now it's clear they're either going to dump Aldridge or Green.

They were never going to dump Tony. He would have retired before going somewhere else. And no team was going to take a guy at his age, making that much, coming off the surgery he just had. We would have had to send them too much to make it worth their while. Green always made more sense.

NickiRasgo
06-22-2017, 11:30 AM
Assuming we got the Kings' 10th pick, who are the notable players within this range?

Uriel
06-22-2017, 11:31 AM
They were never going to dump Tony. He would have retired before going somewhere else. And no team was going to take a guy at his age, making that much, coming off the surgery he just had. We would have had to send them too much to make it worth their while. Green always made more sense.
I agree and I made that very clear in the thread about Gasol opting out.

TimDunkem
06-22-2017, 11:49 AM
Assuming we got the Kings' 10th pick, who are the notable players within this range?
Dennis Smith Jr, Frank Ntilikina, and Malik Monk could drop. Lauri Markkanen, Zach Collins, Luke Kennard (ew), and John Collins are players that will be there.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 12:02 PM
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TimDunkem
06-22-2017, 12:03 PM
:lmao Cavs.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 12:08 PM
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Ice009
06-22-2017, 12:17 PM
877898469800681472

Is this dude being sarcastic? If not, hopefully every other team feels this way.

Can you trade for a draft pick right now, or do trades for draft picks have to go down during the draft?

look_at_g_shred
06-22-2017, 12:23 PM
Is this dude being sarcastic? If not, hopefully every other team feels this way.

Can you trade for a draft pick right now, or do trades for draft picks have to go down during the draft?
It can happen now. The philly boston trade happened on Monday.

TimDunkem
06-22-2017, 12:24 PM
Is this dude being sarcastic? If not, hopefully every other team feels this way.

Can you trade for a draft pick right now, or do trades for draft picks have to go down during the draft?
Yeah...Forget that the DeAngelo Russell for the 27th went down a few days ago?

Ice009
06-22-2017, 12:26 PM
Yeah...Forget that the DeAngelo Russell for the 27th went down a few days ago?

Yeah, I did forget about that trade.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 01:03 PM
Lol

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NASpurs
06-22-2017, 01:11 PM
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BatManu20
06-22-2017, 01:12 PM
Celtics might pull it off.


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gambit1990
06-22-2017, 01:14 PM
Knicks forward Kristaps Porzingis (http://www.slamonline.com/tag/kristaps-porzingis/) is reportedly close to being traded to the Phoenix Suns (http://www.slamonline.com/tag/phoenix-suns/).
One of Porzingis’ brothers told 1580 The Fanatic that a deal with Phoenix is “likely” in advance of the 2017 NBA Draft.

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/kristaps-porzingis-trade-likely-phoenix-suns/#sA86FRASg3xMABgw.99

NASpurs
06-22-2017, 01:15 PM
Celtics might pull it off.


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I hope so, gets the Suns out of contention for Porzingis.

gambit1990
06-22-2017, 01:18 PM
i don't watch college basketball, i don't know anything about any of the players in the draft. i'm down for the spurs to move up though. i'm glad they seem to know they need to make moves.

Mr. Body
06-22-2017, 01:19 PM
Knicks forward Kristaps Porzingis (http://www.slamonline.com/tag/kristaps-porzingis/) is reportedly close to being traded to the Phoenix Suns (http://www.slamonline.com/tag/phoenix-suns/).
One of Porzingis’ brothers told 1580 The Fanatic that a deal with Phoenix is “likely” in advance of the 2017 NBA Draft.

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/kristaps-porzingis-trade-likely-phoenix-suns/#sA86FRASg3xMABgw.99

Insane. I don't know what the fuck Phil thinks he's doing.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 01:29 PM
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NASpurs
06-22-2017, 01:30 PM
:lmao

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Aggie Hoopsfan
06-22-2017, 01:32 PM
Knicks forward Kristaps Porzingis (http://www.slamonline.com/tag/kristaps-porzingis/) is reportedly close to being traded to the Phoenix Suns (http://www.slamonline.com/tag/phoenix-suns/).
One of Porzingis’ brothers told 1580 The Fanatic that a deal with Phoenix is “likely” in advance of the 2017 NBA Draft.

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/kristaps-porzingis-trade-likely-phoenix-suns/#sA86FRASg3xMABgw.99

That's been refuted by more connected reporters than Slam Online / 1580.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 01:32 PM
Knicks forward Kristaps Porzingis (http://www.slamonline.com/tag/kristaps-porzingis/) is reportedly close to being traded to the Phoenix Suns (http://www.slamonline.com/tag/phoenix-suns/).
One of Porzingis’ brothers told 1580 The Fanatic that a deal with Phoenix is “likely” in advance of the 2017 NBA Draft.

http://www.slamonline.com/nba/kristaps-porzingis-trade-likely-phoenix-suns/#sA86FRASg3xMABgw.99

And they're not even giving up Booker... unreal if that report is true.

mo7888
06-22-2017, 01:36 PM
:lmao

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I love porzingus...but c'mon...no way he's worth even close to that..

cd98
06-22-2017, 01:39 PM
Hope Porzingas stays so we can continue to watch Phil Jackson destroy the Knicks. He's tarnishing his legend status every day.

manufan10
06-22-2017, 01:46 PM
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DPG21920
06-22-2017, 01:50 PM
If SA can get at least one lottery pick + 1 other first (either keeping their own or netting another) + open up damn near 50M in cap space while being able to keep Simmons cap hold and maybe Dedmons too then trading DG/LMA worth it. But damn what an overhaul.

raybies
06-22-2017, 01:55 PM
Anyone think they could be going for Millsap and Hill while netting some picks? Give them like 20 each and have experienced Spurs systems.

Hill/????/Leonard/Millsap/????
Maybe resign Simmons and Gasol

Hill and Millsap are very spursy players and are two way plYers

NickiRasgo
06-22-2017, 02:06 PM
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Damn. And the Celtics just declined the offer from Bulls with just 3rd Pick to Jimmy Butler.

mo7888
06-22-2017, 02:08 PM
Anyone think they could be going for Millsap and Hill while netting some picks? Give them like 20 each and have experienced Spurs systems.

Hill/????/Leonard/Millsap/????
Maybe resign Simmons and Gasol

Hill and Millsap are very spursy players and are two way plYers

I'd rather have hill and millsap for low 40's than cp3 for 34.

NASpurs
06-22-2017, 02:11 PM
"Him" is Josh Jackson btw.

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look_at_g_shred
06-22-2017, 02:12 PM
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Who?

TimDunkem
06-22-2017, 02:12 PM
Who is "him"?

NASpurs
06-22-2017, 02:13 PM
Josh Jackson is "him".

FuzzyLumpkins
06-22-2017, 02:14 PM
She's talking about Josh Jackson.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 02:16 PM
Josh Jackson is going to be a really good two-way player for some team, but it won't be the Spurs. He's a Top 4 pick guaranteed.

TimDunkem
06-22-2017, 02:17 PM
Definitely want Jackson here but that's probably pie in the sky shit.

Mr. Body
06-22-2017, 02:21 PM
"Him" is Josh Jackson btw.

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I'm guessing teams are realizing how shitty this draft is and are zeroing in on one of the few good candidates. Not good for bargain hunters.

cd98
06-22-2017, 02:21 PM
Only avenue for Spurs to get a top 5 pick is Kawhi, and that ain't happening.

FuzzyLumpkins
06-22-2017, 02:22 PM
Josh Jackson is going to be a really good two-way player for some team, but it won't be the Spurs. He's a Top 4 pick guaranteed.

You sure like playing the buzzkill. I understand tempering expectations but discounting best case scenarios out of hand is how you end up always settling for second best.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 02:26 PM
You sure like playing the buzzkill. I understand tempering expectations but discounting best case scenarios out of hand is how you end up always settling for second best.

Lol I'm a realist, there's a difference. Some of these trade scenarios on here are ridiculous and would be laughed at by GM's. Spurs can make moves, but not into the Top 3 of the draft or for Porzingis, at least not without giving up Kawhi, which they'd obviously never do.

TimDunkem
06-22-2017, 02:29 PM
Spurs don't need a top 3 pick. Just need to get into the top 5.:smokin

FuzzyLumpkins
06-22-2017, 02:49 PM
Lol I'm a realist, there's a difference. Some of these trade scenarios on here are ridiculous and would be laughed at by GM's. Spurs can make moves, but not into the Top 3 of the draft or for Porzingis, at least not without giving up Kawhi, which they'd obviously never do.

Reality before the fact includes all probabilities and does not discount the outliers out of hand. You like speaking in absolutes and claiming that something that is possible will not happen. That is not real.

NASpurs
06-22-2017, 03:44 PM
So I'm assuming this is going to be the non-spoiler thread for tonight right?

Captivus
06-22-2017, 03:56 PM
So I'm assuming this is going to be the non-spoiler thread for tonight right?

It usually is...but usually it fails to do so...theres always someone.

buttsR4rebounding
06-22-2017, 04:08 PM
Lol

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Merely Zen meditation.

duncan2150
06-22-2017, 04:11 PM
https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/ (https://twitter.com/MarcJSpearsESPN/status/877996360775094272)

The Jazz, Spurs and Nets are all tracking versatile big @Ipjh55 (https://twitter.com/Ipjh55) as a possible pick in the 20s of the #NBADraft (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NBADraft?src=hash) ,source told @TheUndefeated (https://twitter.com/TheUndefeated)

Draft and stash pick

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 04:16 PM
Hartenstein will likely be gone by the time we pick.

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TimDunkem
06-22-2017, 04:17 PM
Let's hope so. He's going to be a bust.

manufan10
06-22-2017, 05:36 PM
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BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:12 PM
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HarlemHeat37
06-22-2017, 06:14 PM
:lol Lavar..hopefully he does some wrestling-like celebration on stage when Lonzo goes to LA..

dabom
06-22-2017, 06:15 PM
This guy has tons of potential. :tu

SPURt
06-22-2017, 06:16 PM
:lol Lavar..hopefully he does some wrestling-like celebration on stage when Lonzo goes to LA..
I'm hoping for choreographed dance that includes Adam Silver. Silver looks light on his toes.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:16 PM
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gospursgojas
06-22-2017, 06:16 PM
:lol Lavar..hopefully he does some wrestling-like celebration on stage when Lonzo goes to LA..

Hopefully he'll knock over Lonzo and shake silvers hand first

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:16 PM
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HarlemHeat37
06-22-2017, 06:17 PM
Dad Killer praying that Markkanan or Kennard are still available when Charlotte picks, tbh:lol

Chinook
06-22-2017, 06:18 PM
Dad Killer praying that Markkanan or Kennard are still available when Charlotte picks, tbh:lol

Will probably trade Kemba so he can get both.

Nathan89
06-22-2017, 06:19 PM
It'd be nice if we could send LMA to the Suns, they swap the 4th for Kings 5th(so Kings can get Jackson), Spurs get 10th (which they could send to Pacers).

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:20 PM
Alright Final predictions.. who do the Spurs take at 29?


I got us taking a draft-and-stash... Mathias Lessort, PF/C, France

Chinook
06-22-2017, 06:21 PM
Alright Final predictions.. who do the Spurs take at 29?

Ferguson?

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:23 PM
Ferguson?

If he's still there, then I think the Spurs will definitely take him

DesignatedT
06-22-2017, 06:23 PM
My prediction is they don't have the 29 at that point.

tholdren
06-22-2017, 06:25 PM
Luke kennard is my guess

Captivus
06-22-2017, 06:27 PM
Alright Final predictions.. who do the Spurs take at 29?


I got us taking a draft-and-stash... Mathias Lessort, PF/C, France

I like this guy, because he has my same name...Mathias!

SPURt
06-22-2017, 06:28 PM
Giles slides due to injury concerns and Spurs get him. I'd be pretty unhappy with that outcome but that feels like every draft for the Spurs minus Kawhi. Both Anderson, Murray, Blair were all sliders for one reason or another.

mudyez
06-22-2017, 06:29 PM
I like this guy, because he has my same name...Mathias!

Really, I'm Mathias too (only with one T which is not that common in Germany).

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:29 PM
Luke kennard is my guess

Good chance Kennard is gone in the Top 15. Hornets and Blazers seem to really like him.

tholdren
06-22-2017, 06:30 PM
Good chance Kennard is gone in the Top 15. Hornets and Blazers seem to really like him.

Yes, i just mean sa trade... spur material

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:31 PM
Giles slides due to injury concerns and Spurs get him. I'd be pretty unhappy with that outcome but that feels like every draft for the Spurs minus Kawhi. Both Anderson, Murray, Blair were all sliders for one reason or another.

I think he slides a bit too, but not past the Lakers at 27 & 28..

SPURt
06-22-2017, 06:31 PM
I think he slides a bit too, but not past the Lakers at 27 & 28..
I hope the Lakers save Spurs fans from Giles

picnroll
06-22-2017, 06:32 PM
Some Euro stash. Hopefully Bolden if they go that route. Pray someone takes the stiff Hartenstein before the Spurs latch ono him.

objective
06-22-2017, 06:33 PM
final prediction:

R1 - Bolden
R2 - Cooke

hopes:

R1 - Bell

Captivus
06-22-2017, 06:33 PM
Really, I'm Mathias too (only with one T which is not that common in Germany).

I was born in Germany too! In Pluderhausen (near Stuttgart...living in argentina now)

SPURt
06-22-2017, 06:36 PM
I love Brooklyn! They boo everything!

dabom
06-22-2017, 06:36 PM
Everyone cheering spurs players. :lol

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:37 PM
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cjw
06-22-2017, 06:37 PM
Everyone cheering spurs players. :lol

Cheering Spurs players and IT. Boo everyone else.

tholdren
06-22-2017, 06:38 PM
Here comes the biggest bust in the draft

TheGreatYacht
06-22-2017, 06:39 PM
Draft Frank Mason III at all costs

SPURt
06-22-2017, 06:39 PM
Do we have to wait the full five minutes for every pick?

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:39 PM
Jimmy Buckets!


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cjw
06-22-2017, 06:40 PM
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New Orleans has only been around since 2003 - not fair to exclude the Charlotte years!

The new Charlotte franchise has double digit lottery picks since expansion in 2004...

Ron Swanson
06-22-2017, 06:41 PM
Lavar is gonna push his way on stage, hold up the jersey and shake Silver's hand.

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:42 PM
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dabom
06-22-2017, 06:42 PM
Lakers next. :lol

BatManu20
06-22-2017, 06:43 PM
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sasaint
06-22-2017, 06:43 PM
Jimmy Buckets!


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T-Wolves are on the verge of becoming relevant.

Seventyniner
06-22-2017, 06:43 PM
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Robinson, Elliott, Duncan?

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-22-2017, 06:46 PM
The Bulls are getting Zach LaVine, Kris Dunn and the 7th pick, per sources. Bulls keep 16th pick.

That's for butler.

tholdren
06-22-2017, 06:48 PM
That whole table needs to be banned

Robz4000
06-22-2017, 06:48 PM
:lmao Lelkers

mudyez
06-22-2017, 06:48 PM
Can we all agree not to buy any BBB stuff ever?

dabom
06-22-2017, 06:49 PM
:lmao Lelkers

tholdren
06-22-2017, 06:50 PM
Can we all agree not to buy any BBB stuff ever?

Harlem heat already has a closet full of that shit

Leetonidas
06-22-2017, 06:50 PM
Lavar has some nasty fucking teeth :lol