Spurs officially looking to trade LMA

[Mr. Body]

Now we know he's really gone, the value is just dumping salary to go for Paul. Spurs are pitching a high draft pick but may settle for anything.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I'm not touching PG13 tbh... he has his mind made up.

Eh, you get a year to change his mind, and in the mean time you've got a wicked perimeter squad.

[look_at_g_shred]

Now we know he's really gone, the value is just dumping salary to go for Paul. Spurs are pitching a high draft pick but may settle for anything.
If anything Detroit seems desperate at 12.

[$pursDynasty]

Eh, you get a year to change his mind, and in the mean time you've got a wicked perimeter squad.
I would have to believe it would be hard to leave a championship team and with him, and IF MVParker comes back round Christmas, then we have a legitimate chance to get that rang. If we get the ship or come close he might be inclined to hang around a year or two then bolt for the Lakers which would be all I would want from him anyway. that and maybe lure in LBJ.

[raybies]

He's got a year on his contract. I believe the going rate is young prospect and pick

[cjw]

He's got a year on his contract. I believe the going rate is young prospect and pick

He's an expiring for all intents and purposes. He's got a player option.

Cap space will be tighter this summer so actually don't mind getting something for him now if this is in fact true (him wanting out).

[sasaint]

If anything Detroit seems desperate at 12.

The landing spot for all former Spurs bigs.

[Mr. Body]

If anything Detroit seems desperate at 12.

That would be a good place for him. He'd do well in the east.

[jbspurs]

LMA for Ibaka!

[lebomb]

I'm not touching PG13 tbh... he has his mind made up.

x2

[RiverwalkParade]

LMA and Danny to Orlando for Biyombo and the 6th

[Chinook]

I don't see the point in packaging Green and LMA. Let's say Danny can get the 20th pick and LMA the 15th. Rather than over both for 12.

[Spurs9]

I don't see the point in packaging Green and LMA. Let's say Danny can get the 20th pick and LMA the 15th. Rather than over both for 12.

Depends on how high the pick.

[sasaint]

I have a feeling Spurs are unlikely to get a high pick...something like Mirotic/Portis + 16th for LMA seems more reasonable, although i have no clue if the salary even works there. but i have my doubts a disgruntled aldridge with his garbage playoff performance is going to net a top 10 pick

Doubt they do that well, unless his old teammate RoLo puts in a good word for LMA... Doubtful!

[Mr. Body]

This makes the chances of saving Green much higher, which is good.

[sasaint]

LMA and Danny to Orlando for Biyombo and the 6th

I'd try LMA and 29th for Biyombo and Payton.

[Chinook]

I'd try LMA and 29th for Biyombo and Payton.

Ew. I'd rather get their second first instead of Payton.

[sasaint]

Ew. I'd rather get their second first instead of Payton.

I like Payton - especially his 'do. :lol Then forget about CP3 and go for a SG

[Chinook]

forget about CP3

:hat Now you're speaking my language.

[rjv]

I like Payton - especially his 'do. :lol Then forget about CP3 and go for a SG from all accounts that I have read, spurs are dead set on getting a PG. That does not mean that it will be CP3. Some can infer that recent activity suggests he is their target but the reality is that CP3 is a longshot. So who that PG turns out to be is to be determined.

[cd98]

Aldridge has a one year option and PG has a one year option. I'm fine with swapping those two.

[sasaint]

from all accounts that I have read, spurs are dead set on getting a PG. That does not mean that it will be CP3. Some can infer that recent activity suggests he is their target but the reality is that CP3 is a longshot. So who that PG turns out to be is to be determined.

Maybe I misunderstood your post. Payton is a PG.

[Mr. Body]

from all accounts that I have read, spurs are dead set on getting a PG. That does not mean that it will be CP3. Some can infer that recent activity suggests he is their target but the reality is that CP3 is a longshot. So who that PG turns out to be is to be determined.

My guess is they already know whether Chris Paul is the choice or not.

[sasaint]

:hat Now you're speaking my language.

Is the cigar chomper a sarcasm indicator?

[MaNu4Tres]

He felt the same last summer. Finally the cat is let out of the bag.

Spurs can finally move on, even if its a year late.. tbh. Get cap space and a top 20 pick and use the pick to draft John Collins, Jordan Bell or Bam Adebayo. Lets Go!

[sasaint]

He felt the same last summer. Finally the cat is let out of the bag.

Spurs can finally move on, even if its a year late.. tbh. Get cap space and a top 20 pick and use the pick to draft John Collins, Jordan Bell or Bam Adebayo. Lets Go!

But how much more has his Spurs bashing undermined his value? I fear that THIS YEAR the Spurs will get pennies on the dollar.

[superbigtime]

So disappointed in LaMarcus.

[picnroll]

Spurs will probably have to give up a first to get rid of Aldridge.

[Borosai]

It's been said, but Aldridge is at best a third option on a championship team, and that's clearly a role he would never accept, so moving him is the only thing to do. He can go ahead and be the first option on a bad team if that's what he needs.

[peacemaker885]

Health issues + Softness = RC needs to bring out his A game

[sasaint]

My guess is they already know whether Chris Paul is the choice or not.

I think the LMA situation has introduced an element of fluidity. Paul has likely been taken by surprise. Perhaps the Spurs seem like a deteriorating situation - depending on the gets for LMA and even Danny. CP3 has no way of projecting the Spurs' next edition.

[Russ]

Spurs will probably have to give up a first to get rid of Aldridge.

They would never do that. They'll get something for LMA if they trade him.

[MaNu4Tres]

But how much more has his Spurs bashing undermined his value? I fear that THIS YEAR the Spurs will get pennies on the dollar.

I don't think it will hurt his value that much more. His play and him having that opt out after next year was already holding down his value. To be quite honest, him thinking Spurs "compromised his talents" actually increases his value to a degree. Why does it increase his value a little bit? Because now LA and his agent are telling teams LA is a better player than he displayed last year putting up 17 and 7. I can see him going to PHX and committing to them long term.

[rjv]

My guess is they already know whether Chris Paul is the choice or not. ramon shelbourne reported that spurs have "strong interest" in both CP3 and derrick rose. for whatever that's worth.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I think the LMA situation has introduced an element of fluidity. Paul has likely been taken by surprise. Perhaps the Spurs seem like a deteriorating situation - depending on the gets for LMA and even Danny. CP3 has no way of projecting the Spurs' next edition.

If Paul is coming on board, he knows what our plan is.

[NickiRasgo]

There hasn't been a sure-fire draft since Oden-Durant and one of those players sucked. The last 'sure thing' draft was Wiggins-Parker and both those players suck balls as stars.

Fact is, the NCAA has been turning in crap and the league is suffering for it. There have been no stars for years.

There are good lottery players in the previous years like KAT but what I noticed is that the league is now losing or lacking alpha/competitor attitude from the younger ones.
Heck even our own LMA is not. Well atleast Murray seems a competitor.

[sasaint]

I don't think it will hurt his value that much more. His play and him having that opt out after next year was already holding down his value. To be quite honest, him thinking Spurs "compromised his talents" actually increases his value to a degree. Why does it increase his value a little bit? Because now LA and his agent are telling teams LA is a better player than he displayed last year putting up 17 and 7. I can see him going to PHX and committing to them long term.

I hope you are right about Phoenix. That would be our saving grace.

OTOH, I'm not sure whining ever increases a player's value. In all my job interviews (non-basketball. :lol) I was careful never to say anything negative about previous employers.

[Mr. Body]

I think the LMA situation has introduced an element of fluidity. Paul has likely been taken by surprise. Perhaps the Spurs seem like a deteriorating situation - depending on the gets for LMA and even Danny. CP3 has no way of projecting the Spurs' next edition.

I serioudly doubt this is any surprise to the Spurs. It just got leaked now. As no surprise to the Spurs. I doubt it was any surprise to Paul.

[cd98]

Spurs will probably have to give up a first to get rid of Aldridge.

They would make him play out his contract before they do that.

[Mr. Body]

But how much more has his Spurs bashing undermined his value? I fear that THIS YEAR the Spurs will get pennies on the dollar.

This happens to be the year where trading him for cap space itself is a great thing.

[Mr. Body]

There are good lottery players in the previous years like KAT but what I noticed is that the league is now losing or lacking alpha/competitor attitude from the younger ones.
Heck even our own LMA is not. Well atleast Murray seems a competitor.

I'm not saying there are no good players, I'm saying there are no immediate stars, guys who are ready to change a team right away.

Something has happened. I partly blame Calipari and Coack K. They suck up so much talent and don't do shit to develop them in two different ways. There may be other problems, too, but the pipeline is shit right now.

[sasaint]

This happens to be the year where trading him for cap space itself is a great thing.

As an expression "pennies on the dollar" can also mean a #16 pick instead of a #5. You can always just dump a salary to merely clear space, but cleared cap space is not all that the Spurs will get. They will get a pick, too. Or a young prospect.

[timtonymanu]

First red flag was wanting to play in that shithole Phoenix Suns. 2nd was him coming into camp looking out of shape. I would have traded him right then and there.

[sasaint]

I serioudly doubt this is any surprise to the Spurs. It just got leaked now. As no surprise to the Spurs. I doubt it was any surprise to Paul.

I just don't think CP3 would be that intimately acquainted with the Spurs' inner workings. There is such a thing as tampering - even in the NBA.

[NickiRasgo]

I'm not saying there are no good players, I'm saying there are no immediate stars, guys who are ready to change a team right away.

Something has happened. I partly blame Calipari and Coack K. They suck up so much talent and don't do shit to develop them in two different ways. There may be other problems, too, but the pipeline is shit right now.

Yeah I agree. Or maybe the NBA needs more a new team. I'm not sure but I get you. In the last decade you could have a rookie who will have an immediate impact or close to an all-star caliber player.

[MaNu4Tres]

LA to PHX

Bledsoe to Utah

24th, 30th, rights to MIA 18' 1st to SA

or

LA, rights to Milutinov, 29th to PHX

Bledsoe to Utah

4th, 24th to SA.

Which deal is more likely? And would you do it?

[TimDunkem]

LA to PHX

Bledsoe to Utah

24th, 30th, rights to MIA 18' 1st to SA

or

LA, rights to Milutinov, 29th to PHX

Bledsoe to Utah

4th, 24th to SA.

Which deal is more likely? And would you do it?
The former. PHX isn't giving away the 4th for anything less than a young star. Would I do it? Maybe. I'd LIKE a better draft pick but you need to take what you can get for this bum. :lol

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I just don't think CP3 would be that intimately acquainted with the Spurs' inner workings. There is such a thing as tampering - even in the NBA.

If Paul is the guy we're making all the cap moves for, the Spurs know he's coming, and he has a high degree of understanding about what we're going to do. Do you really think "we're going to gut our whole team to sign you" would be appealing to him?

I still have my doubts it's Paul though, Spurs seem to focus more on value than that. Still expecting someone like Holliday, Hill, Lowry for a cheaper deal, with the excess being used to get more assets to build a strong team with. It's hard to predict what those will be, gotta trust the process and have faith in R.C. and the front office's cap gymnastics.

[SpursBig3s]

LMA exit meeting wasn't the best...

Go on... what happened?

[sasaint]

If Paul is the guy we're making all the cap moves for, the Spurs know he's coming, and he has a high degree of understanding about what we're going to do. Do you really think "we're going to gut our whole team to sign you" would be appealing to him?

I still have my doubts it's Paul though, Spurs seem to focus more on value than that. Still expecting someone like Holliday, Hill, Lowry for a cheaper deal, with the excess being used to get more assets to build a strong team with. It's hard to predict what those will be, gotta trust the process and have faith in R.C. and the front office's cap gymnastics.

Well, we can agree on one thing. I have never been convinced that the Spurs were going to get Paul, and I have never wanted them to. (Perhaps their experience with LMA has made PATFO a little more skeptical about chasing high-priced, older stars.) I think the Spurs have more needs than just a PG, and they need to stretch their dollars a little more wisely.

[mo7888]

LA to PHX

Bledsoe to Utah

24th, 30th, rights to MIA 18' 1st to SA

or

LA, rights to Milutinov, 29th to PHX

Bledsoe to Utah

4th, 24th to SA.

Which deal is more likely? And would you do it?

I'd prefer the 2nd option. I think Phoenix is going to try and keep the 4th pick though and try and get us to take bender or chriss instead.

[TimDunkem]

He asked which is more likely...The 4th pick is not likely.

Of course we would love a top 5 pick but Phoenix isn't going to move their's for Aldridge.

[NickiRasgo]

Instead of looking at Suns' 4th, why not on their young roster like Bender, Warren or even Chriss plus future 1st round or current 2nd round pick. Better than nothing, we're about to salary dump him anyway and an expiring contract.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I doubt LMA for the 4th straight up is appealing, but people need to remember that Phoenix was the #2 suitor for him when we got him in 2015.

[mo7888]

Instead of looking at Suns' 4th, why not on their young roster like Bender, Warren or even Chriss plus future 1st round or current 2nd round pick. Better than nothing, we're about to salary dump him anyway and an expiring contract.

This

[TimDunkem]

I doubt LMA for the 4th straight up is appealing, but people need to remember that Phoenix was the #2 suitor for him when we got him in 2015.
If they're hesitant to trade it for Porzingod, I doubt they're going to give it up. For LaSoftus.

I'll take Chriss, and Phoenix's 24th if I couldn't find another sucker early in the first round to trade with.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'd prefer the 2nd option. I think Phoenix is going to try and keep the 4th pick though and try and get us to take bender or chriss instead.

If I'm SA, I'd be fine taking the 24th, 30th and MIA 18' 1st for LA.

PHX can keep their 4th, get Fox or Ball ( if he falls).

[TimDunkem]

Gimmie Chriss and I'll take the 24th and 30th no problem.

[mo7888]

If I'm SA, I'd be fine taking the 24th, 30th and MIA 18' 1st for LA.

PHX can keep their 4th, get Fox or Ball ( if he falls).

I'd probably take that as well but, I think we can do better. I'd like the Miami 1st but I'd push for one of their current pf's from last year class too...try to spread the youth infusion out a bit more.

[sasaint]

If I'm SA, I'd be fine taking the 24th, 30th and MIA 18' 1st for LA.

PHX can keep their 4th, get Fox or Ball ( if he falls).

Ball to PHX would be a catastrophe for the league. Stuck out in the desert, Team Ball would be running (and running even deeper into the ground) that dysfunctional franchise immediately.

[NASpurs]

I mean if you're looking to trade LaFaggus for a pick or two, it would be ideally today that he gets dealt right?

[sasaint]

Gimmie Chriss and I'll take the 24th and 30th no problem.

That's not bad. Hopefully Danny fetches a mid-first. With four (albeit low) picks, the Spurs would have great flexibility. They might be able to to turn 3 or all 4 picks into a lottery pick that would swing Porzingis.

[TimDunkem]

I mean if you're looking to trade LaFaggus for a pick or two, it would be ideally today that he gets dealt right?
Yes. They can pick their guy instead of dealing for whoever someone else picks. Unless there is a deal in place like the Hill for Kawhi deal.

[Ice009]

LMA exit meeting wasn't the best...

Either elaborate or shut up. You seem to leak things out after the fact. Why didn't you say this before if you knew this?

[coachmac87]

Either elaborate or shut up. You seem to leak things out after the fact. Why didn't you say this before if you knew this?

He showed up late to the exit meeting...

[Chucho]

Even in a "deep" draft, hording draft picks in the NBA isn't at all as valuable as it is in the NFL, that's such a silly way of thinking.

We're giving up our best big, second leading scorer and top rebounder and we are pretty much DOA with Dedmon. So we've lost more than 50% of our rebounding for a discounted, slow Pau and what? Twiggy ass Bertrans the 3 point shooter?

We need a PG and now we will need a starting FC. We aren't getting 2 out of the 3 with 3 first round picks and I don't think we can pull a trade that works for us, but I do know we NEED to get a STARTER out of this deal.

I can't fathom how people think surrounding Kawhi with tired ass Gino, George Hill, a discounted Pau and even a maxed player like Chris Paul (don't want to do without a decent front court) with some rooks while losing Paty, DG, Dedmon, LMA and without Tony 90% of the season is at all good thinking. 1/2 of the rotation is gone.

LOL George Hill
LOL Draft picks
LOL losing 5 rotation players

This team will probably suck next year when they were but a busted ankle away from the Finals...

[TimDunkem]

Doesn't matter in the end. Dedmon walked, LaSoftus doesn't want to be here, TP is hurt, Manu can't be relied on, Simmons is going to get a huge contract, Mills and Green suck.

Last year was THAT team's last chance.

[Big Empty]

Even in a "deep" draft, hording draft picks in the NBA isn't at all as valuable as it is in the NFL, that's such a silly way of thinking.

We're giving up our best big, second leading scorer and top rebounder and we are pretty much DOA with Dedmon. So we've lost more than 50% of our rebounding for a discounted, slow Pau and what? Twiggy ass Bertrans the 3 point shooter?

We need a PG and now we will need a starting FC. We aren't getting 2 out of the 3 with 3 first round picks and I don't think we can pull a trade that works for us, but I do know we NEED to get a STARTER out of this deal.

I can't fathom how people think surrounding Kawhi with tired ass Gino, George Hill, a discounted Pau and even a maxed player like Chris Paul (don't want to do without a decent front court) with some rooks while losing Paty, DG, Dedmon, LMA and without Tony 90% of the season is at all good thinking. 1/2 of the rotation is gone.

LOL George Hill
LOL Draft picks
LOL losing 5 rotation players

This team will probably suck next year when they were but a busted ankle away from the Finals...I def think Hill would be good pick up if not too pricey. Hill, Leonard and Simmons would provide great D. I wouldn't mind the Spurs making a run at Igoudala also

[NASpurs]

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[NASpurs]

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

877932868386799617

Zero chance we get into the top 4, tbh.



877935932812312576

Yep. And he's not re-signing with the Kings.. would have to be PHX, but they've already made it clear they don't want him.

[rjv]

877932868386799617 i would add that it makes more sense for the spurs to give up LMA for a rookie than it does for the knicks to give up porzingis for the 4th. but, then again, this is phil we're talking about. phil the GM, not phil the coach.

[Ice009]

877935932812312576

Well he wanted to go to Phoenix, so doesn't Phoenix know he would likely re-sign there? He also likes or is friends with Tyson Chandler, isn't he? Tyson Chandler being there also means he won't have to play center. Phoenix is the team for him.

Come on Phoenix, gives us that number 4 pick. He would fit in well there. Take him.

[NASpurs]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2017/06/22/sources-aldridge-on-the-trading-block-george-hill-eyeing-a-return/



A league source told the Express-News that Portland Trail Blazers would execute a trade for Aldridge to reunite him with star Damian Lillard. Aldridge, who played nine seasons in Portland, but left the Blazers in 2015 to sign with the Spurs. The Blazers haven’t closed the door completely on a possible return. The team would be willing to complete a trade for Aldridge for matching salary only, according to a league source

[NASpurs]

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[sasaint]

877898469800681472

Shane appears to be a lap behind. "Explore the market..." :lmao

[TimDunkem]

Fuck that. Spurs shouldn't take an Evan Turner or Crabbe plus another scrub for him.

[raybies]

How bout Dallas, would we ever do business with them?

I know Spurs hate doing business inside the conference much less the division but it'd have to be a big market imo.

[sasaint]

877936701934452736

Almost puts the Spurs in a similar situation to Indy's.

[TimDunkem]

877936701934452736
Now things are getting interesting...

[ECOV]

Blazers are interested lmao

[BatManu20]

877936701934452736

PHX already turned down the Spurs offer of LMA for the 4th pick, according to reports. Spurs would have to really sweeten the pot, and I don't see any way they could.

[raybies]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2017/06/22/sources-aldridge-on-the-trading-block-george-hill-eyeing-a-return/

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I'd take all three firsts with that but we'd have to be salary dumped a bad contract

[Nathan89]

Almost puts the Spurs in a similar situation to Indy's.

LMA isn't saying he'll only play for one team.

[raybies]

I guess we could involve Brooklyn to take the bad contract and give them the lowest pick like our 29th, that'd be a good haul no?

[rjv]

A league source told the Express-News that Portland Trail Blazers would execute a trade for Aldridge to reunite him with star Damian Lillard. Aldridge, who played nine seasons in Portland, but left the Blazers in 2015 to sign with the Spurs. The Blazers haven’t closed the door completely on a possible return. The team would be willing to complete a trade for Aldridge for matching salary only, (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2017/06/22/sources-aldridge-on-the-trading-block-george-hill-eyeing-a-return/) according to a league source.
– via San Antonio Express-News (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2017/06/22/sources-aldridge-on-the-trading-block-george-hill-eyeing-a-return/)

[Joseph Kony]

A league source told the Express-News that Portland Trail Blazers would execute a trade for Aldridge to reunite him with star Damian Lillard. Aldridge, who played nine seasons in Portland, but left the Blazers in 2015 to sign with the Spurs. The Blazers haven’t closed the door completely on a possible return. The team would be willing to complete a trade for Aldridge for matching salary only, (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2017/06/22/sources-aldridge-on-the-trading-block-george-hill-eyeing-a-return/) according to a league source.
– via San Antonio Express-News (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2017/06/22/sources-aldridge-on-the-trading-block-george-hill-eyeing-a-return/)
:lmao :lmao :lmao

[look_at_g_shred]

A league source told the Express-News that Portland Trail Blazers would execute a trade for Aldridge to reunite him with star Damian Lillard. Aldridge, who played nine seasons in Portland, but left the Blazers in 2015 to sign with the Spurs. The Blazers haven’t closed the door completely on a possible return. The team would be willing to complete a trade for Aldridge for matching salary only, (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2017/06/22/sources-aldridge-on-the-trading-block-george-hill-eyeing-a-return/) according to a league source.
– via San Antonio Express-News (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2017/06/22/sources-aldridge-on-the-trading-block-george-hill-eyeing-a-return/)
Give me the big man that came from Denver

[Joseph Kony]

the fuck would we want from Portland?

[Joseph Kony]

Give me the big man that came from Denver
wouldn't mind Nurkic but doubt they would give him up. I'm assuming they think Dame/CJ/Crabbe/LMA/Nurkic would be their starting lineup, so they probably want us to take Evan Turner's shitty contract or something

[TimDunkem]

Spurs are clearing space so it wouldn't make sense to take back bad contracts. :lmao Blazers.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

the fuck would we want from Portland?

They prob want to dump Crabbe/Turner/Leonard. Yuck.

[baseline bum]

the fuck would we want from Portland?

No shit. I'm sure they'd love one year of Aldridge to get out of their horrible contracts to Allen Crabbe or Evan Turner. Did you know those faggots have a $138 million payroll next year? :lmao

I'm not lying
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland_trail_blazers/

[look_at_g_shred]

I'd give them LMA/Danny/29th for CJ

[TimDunkem]

Blazers are delusional as fuck. No wonder they matched Brooklyn's offer for Allen fucking Crabbe. :lmao

[NASpurs]

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=20420

Multiple league sources have informed the Express-News the Spurs are exploring the trade market, hoping to find a deal to unload Aldridge, who will turn 32 next month.


“They feel it’s time to move on,” a source told the Express-News.

[baseline bum]

They prob want to dump Crabbe/Turner/Leonard. Yuck.

They're going to have a higher payroll than Cleveland next year :rollin

[rjv]

wouldn't mind Nurkic but doubt they would give him up. I'm assuming they think Dame/CJ/Crabbe/LMA/Nurkic would be their starting lineup, so they probably want us to take Evan Turner's shitty contract or something a quick glimpse of the portland roster tells you just how f'd up that franchise is when evan turner is near $17,000,000.

[Joseph Kony]

I'd give them LMA/Danny/29th for CJ
I would jizz my pants...CJ is a damn good SG in a league devoid of SG talent

[Joseph Kony]

No shit. I'm sure they'd love one year of Aldridge to get out of their horrible contracts to Allen Crabbe or Evan Turner. Did you know those faggots have a $138 million payroll next year? :lmao

I'm not lying
http://hoopshype.com/salaries/portland_trail_blazers/

:wow

wtf?? :lol cant believe they matched that offer for Crabbe....idiots tbh

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

They're going to have a higher payroll than Cleveland next year :rollin

They thought overpaying for middling talent was creating assets, because they lucked out on a couple of OK deals the previous summer. :lol

[sasaint]

LMA isn't saying he'll only play for one team.

I hope not. I was responding to the assertion that the Suns were the only team that could feel certain LMA would re-up. Hopefully he would be willing to offer those assurances to others. The Spurs don't ever just dump guys without trying to appease their interests. It is even more incumbent on them to do so with LMA to maximize his value. I hope he is also willing to work with the Spurs to get this done in the next six hours or so.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

They're going to have a higher payroll than Cleveland next year :rollin

Holy crap. Those salaries are nuts

[baseline bum]

Holy crap. Those salaries are nuts

I remember dying laughing when they signed Aminu to that contract and now he's one of the best values on the team (though still a very shitty player).

[Mnky]

It was actually a genius move to match the crabbe pay, if they simply intend to trade him to brooklyn now for assets tbh. They were going to lose him either way, might as well hold on to him and get something for him. He's not worth that contract, but He could easily be a pretty good player soon. He was one of the few young blazers who played up against GSW when they were battling a couple years ago.

Maybe another team would be willing to take crabbe, portland takes LMA, and the spurs get a pick or something along those lines.

[Joseph Kony]

Can the Spurs trade for Ezeli's non-guarantteed contract and Harkless to make it work? nothing else on that roster aside from CJ is enticing and he is making a fuck ton of money after this season

[rjv]

Can the Spurs trade for Ezeli's non-guarantteed contract and Harkless to make it work? nothing else on that roster aside from CJ is enticing and he is making a fuck ton of money after this season although portland's trades aren't all that sexy at 15, 20 and 26.

[NASpurs]

877942326198513664

[raybies]

It was actually a genius move to match the crabbe pay, if they simply intend to trade him to brooklyn now for assets tbh. They were going to lose him either way, might as well hold on to him and get something for him. He's not worth that contract, but He could easily be a pretty good player soon. He was one of the few young blazers who played up against GSW when they were battling a couple years ago.

Maybe another team would be willing to take crabbe, portland takes LMA, and the spurs get a pick or something along those lines.
Portland has three picks in the first round they are trying to get rid of, I'm sure they'd give up all 3 for LMA. They are in cap hell tbh

[NASpurs]

877940859982888960

[TimDunkem]

Lmao at paying Crabbe being a genius move. :lmao

[look_at_g_shred]

I mean if Cousins can be had for peanuts why can't we net a top 15 pick for LMA

[cjw]

I think the LMA situation has introduced an element of fluidity. Paul has likely been taken by surprise. Perhaps the Spurs seem like a deteriorating situation - depending on the gets for LMA and even Danny. CP3 has no way of projecting the Spurs' next edition.

Or maybe it was signaled from CP3's camp he doesn't want a mental midget like Aldridge on the roster.



They would never do that. They'll get something for LMA if they trade him.

If moving LMA now, they should be able to get a return. If waiting for start of FA, teams will know Spurs may have commitment from a FA and may need to dump him ASAP. If dealing, deal now if there's demand.

[TimDunkem]

There are always suckers out there. Hopefully the Spurs find one before the night is over.

[look_at_g_shred]

I mean at this point just give me the 20th pick for LMA and i'd be happy.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I think Charlotte and Chicago would be possible destinations.

[Mnky]

Portland has three picks in the first round they are trying to get rid of, I'm sure they'd give up all 3 for LMA. They are in cap hell tbh

Article said they will match salary only, and they want to keep those picks. All those picks help out with future luxury tax, if they move a couple contracts

[NASpurs]

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[NASpurs]

It's all more or less connected it seems with Porzingis. If one domino falls, then so do the others.

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[Mnky]

Lmao at paying Crabbe being a genius move. :lmao

It didn't hurt them, they weren't going to sign anyone. Now they trade him, and her something in return instead of losing him for nothing.

Might be the nets, that take him too. The original poachers.

[Joseph Kony]

If someone out there is willing to take Dwight Howard, spurs should be able to get something serviceable for LMA.

[Joseph Kony]

I'm guessing once we start getting closer to draft time the dominoes will start falling

[rjv]

877943891143434240 woj just reported that the celtics are also stalling at anything the knicks are demanding back. NY must be asking for more than just the pick straight up.

[rjv]

RJ Marquez: ESPN rAmona Shelburne just said #Spurs having ‘conversations’ about possible Aldridge/Danny Green deals, SA/Chris Paul interest remains high (http://hoopshype.com/social/) pic.twitter.com/SJ8PZBo6n3
– via TwitterKSATRJ (http://twitter.com/KSATRJ)

[NASpurs]

So I'm rooting for the Celtics to get Porzingod (not like the Spurs were going to get him) so the Suns feel they struck out and get desperate for a "marquee" player like LMA that they coveted a few years ago. Yeah... that's what I'm thinking.

[NASpurs]

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[sasaint]

There are always suckers out there. Hopefully the Spurs find one before the night is over.

:tu PLEASE!

[BatManu20]

Crickets. Don't think we're going to get much for LMA. Guy tells me he's going to be a Spur at the start of the season, but not at the end.

[Ice009]

Crickets. Don't think we're going to get much for LMA. Guy tells me he's going to be a Spur at the start of the season, but not at the end.

Is that a typo? Were you saying your "gut" tells you or where you saying "guy" tells you, as in, do you know someone who's telling you that?

[Ice009]

It'd make me laugh if Pau Gasol decides to bolt now after all this drama with Aldridge.

[Kurik]

It'd make me laugh if Pau Gasol decides to bolt now after all this drama with Aldridge.

That would be awesome!

[NASpurs]

It'd make me laugh if Pau Gasol decides to bolt now after all this drama with Aldridge.

I'd laugh too, laugh with joy that Gasol is gone.

[Mr. Body]

I'd be surprised to see something done with LMA before the draft.

[Splits]

http://i.imgur.com/MJSDThc.png?1

[sasaint]

It'd make me laugh if Pau Gasol decides to bolt now after all this drama with Aldridge.

Don't know whether this gives him incentive to go or stay. I wonder if it had much, if anything to do with his decision.

[TimDunkem]

Is that a typo? Were you saying your "gut" tells you or where you saying "guy" tells you, as in, do you know someone who's telling you that?Batmanu talks out of his ass a lot. Trades aren't guaranteed but the Spurs are going to do their best to get rid of LA asap. He doesn't want to be here, we need cap space, and they have no more time to waste since Kawhi is now in his prime.

[sasaint]

Crickets. Don't think we're going to get much for LMA. Guy tells me he's going to be a Spur at the start of the season, but not at the end.

I sure hope your "guy" is wrong.

[raybies]

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its working.. in the words of Sean ****** "keep flapping those gums"

[LittleCriminal]

Aldridge, Green, 29th pick for K.Porzingis??

[raybies]

We're not getting Porzingis... have not enough assets.

[lebomb]

Aldridge, Green, 29th pick for K.Porzingis??

Yep...........puts NY right in the middle of the Eastern conference championship. :rolleyes

[TimDunkem]

Aldridge, Green, 29th pick for K.Porzingis??
:lmao They're not trading him for anything less than a top pick. Why do people keep suggesting a straight up SA/NYC deal?

[raybies]

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[raybies]

Belongs in Portland tbh

[LkrFan]

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:wow

[LittleCriminal]

:lmao They're not trading him for anything less than a top pick. Why do people keep suggesting a straight up SA/NYC deal?

Oh im sorry, i didnt know you worked for the Knicks front office.

maybe they will take Aldridge, Anderson, Green and the 29th pick for K.Porzingis?

[Ice009]

I knew it, no-one wants him. It might have to be to Portland then. I don't really want anyone from there though apart from CJ. Maybe Nurkic, but the Spurs probably could have had him for nothing last trade deadline.

[CGD]

877954113111113728

:wow

Yeah, we're gonna get shit for him now.

[LittleCriminal]

Oh im sorry, i didnt know you worked for the Knicks front office.

maybe they will take Aldridge, Anderson, Green and the 29th pick for K.Porzingis?

Or maybe you do.. But being the janitor is not the same as being the team Gm.

[raybies]

Oh im sorry, i didnt know you worked for the Knicks front office.

maybe they will take Aldridge, Anderson, Green and the 29th pick for K.Porzingis?
Dude I was gonna defend the fact that at least you didn't include Kyle and look. You just went ahead and did it. Smh

[TimDunkem]

Oh im sorry, i didnt know you worked for the Knicks front office.

maybe they will take Aldridge, Anderson, Green and the 29th pick for K.Porzingis?
You don't need to be in a front office to know that's a stupid deal. Especially after it's been stated time and time again that the Knicks want a top pick and a good, young player.

But, yeah, I'm sure Fathead would sweeten that deal. :lmao

Your name is quite apt. Since you're trying to fucking rob the Knicks and all. :lol

[manufan10]

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[TimDunkem]

Dude I was gonna defend the fact that at least you didn't include Kyle and look. You just went ahead and did it. Smh:lmao Even the cpu in 2k17 won't take that stupid deal.

[Ice009]

You don't need to be in a front office to know that's a stupid deal. Especially after it's been stated time and time again that the Knicks want a top pick and a good, young player.

But, yeah, I'm sure Fathead would sweeten that deal. :lmao

Your name is quite apt. Since you're trying to fucking rob the Knicks and all. :lol

lol.

Maybe something could happen with the Spurs if he says he wants to come here. Come on Kristaps, tell them you want to play here.

[Hoops Czar]

Yeah, we're gonna get shit for him now.

Tony Parker threatened he wanted out when his name popped up in trade rumors years ago too. The mentality of a 12 year old, tbh.

[LittleCriminal]

You don't need to be in a front office to know that's a stupid deal. Especially after it's been stated time and time again that the Knicks want a top pick and a good, young player.

But, yeah, I'm sure Fathead would sweeten that deal. :lmao

Your name is quite apt. Since you're trying to fucking rob the Knicks and all. :lol

Are you insinuating no stupid deals happen in the nba?

[TimDunkem]

Are you insinuating no stupid deals happen in the nba?
They want a top pick and a GOOD (NOT Fathead), young player with upside. What don't you understand?

[rastaspur]

877954113111113728

Coomon sense take. If he wants out of San antonio, which is clearly respected by other gm's and teams and many teams have tried to emulate the spurs organization, then this is a red flag.

If it were the knicks, kings or some other currently shitty franchise then no one would hold it against him.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

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[TimDunkem]

Not looking good. Hopefully they can get anything without taking back salary at this point.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yeah, we're gonna get shit for him now.

Eh, lots of GMs around the league want to prove they're smarter than everyone else. It'd be a great story to take Aldridge and make him great again to show they got one over on SA. It's all about ego stroking.

[sasaint]

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I suggested earlier that his whining about the Spurs might cause other teams to view LMA with a jaundiced eye.

[LittleCriminal]

They want a top pick and a GOOD (NOT Fathead), young player with upside. What don't you understand?

So ur saying they want more picks?
Aldridge, Anderson, Green, 1st round pick and the 2nd round pick for K.Porzingis??

[TimDunkem]

*facepalm*

[BackHome]

[QUOTE=TimDunkem;9056417]They want a top pick and a GOOD (NOT Fathead), young player with upside. What don't you understand?[/QUOTE

I would trade LMA and Murray for P. and there 8th draft pick.

[cd98]

Disappointing they couldn't keep his poor attitude silent why they were trying to trade him. It's not like he is a bad player, but leaving Portland in a sulky manner and then leaving San Antonio, feels like he won't be happy anywhere.

[raybies]

I'm Telling y'all this may be the best we get

Portland - LMA
San Antonio - 15,20,26
Brooklyn - Crabbe, 29

Belongs in Portland. Terry Stotts knows how to use him. If not all three picks, at least the 15, and 20. Saves them a pick to unload more salary.

[TimDunkem]

I would trade LMA and Murray for P. and there 8th draft pick.

They. Want. A. Top. 5. Pick.

[sasaint]

[QUOTE=TimDunkem;9056417]They want a top pick and a GOOD (NOT Fathead), young player with upside. What don't you understand?[/QUOTE

I would trade LMA and Murray for P. and there 8th draft pick.

That doesn't strike me as a Spurs homer offer.

[DPG21920]

I'm Telling y'all this may be the best we get

Portland - LMA
San Antonio - 15,20,26
Brooklyn - Crabbe, 29

Belongs in Portland. Terry Stotts knows how to use him. If not all three picks, at least the 15, and 20. Saves them a pick to unload more salary.

I would do that 100%

[sasaint]

I'm Telling y'all this may be the best we get

Portland - LMA
San Antonio - 15,20,26
Brooklyn - Crabbe, 29

Belongs in Portland. Terry Stotts knows how to use him. If not all three picks, at least the 15, and 20. Saves them a pick to unload more salary.

"The best?" That seems like better than the best to me.

[raybies]

So would I, you could even jump a couple spots maybe.

[gospursgojas]

Spurs aren't trading LMA for picks. Cmon...they aren't in rebuilding mode.

[philldafunk]

What happens if you try to move a player and are unsuccessful? The following season do they just not show up?? Do they shoot in the other teams basket out of spite? How does that work?

[LittleCriminal]

*facepalm*

Oh they want a younger player and not fathead. So
Aldridge, Forbes, Green, 1st round pick and the 2nd round pick for K.Porzingis?

[gospursgojas]

What happens if you try to move a player and are unsuccessful? The following season do they just not show up?? Do they shoot in the other teams basket out of spite? How does that work?

You bake them a cake that says "I'm sorry we tried to trade you"

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Spurs aren't trading LMA for picks. Cmon...they aren't in rebuilding mode.

Trading for picks doesn't mean they are rebuilding. That $20m could be used to sign veteran free agents like Chris Paul.

[TimDunkem]

Spurs aren't trading LMA for picks. Cmon...they aren't in rebuilding mode.
They're not trading him for salary. They can get good players on cheap contracts (picks) and have enough money to spend on vets. It's the best they can do.

[sasaint]

What happens if you try to move a player and are unsuccessful? The following season do they just not show up?? Do they shoot in the other teams basket out of spite? How does that work?

Hopefully we never find out.

[TimDunkem]

Oh they want a younger player and not fathead. So
Aldridge, Forbes, Green, 1st round pick and the 2nd round pick for K.Porzingis l?Give it up.

[elbamba]

I am thinking a deal with Minnesota could work. I could see the following:

LMA and 29th for Rubio, Rush (or Jordan Hill) and the 7th pick. It gets us a pass first pg a decent shooter (back up big) and a lottery pick. There are other trades that I would prefer but I could see this one actually being done.

[mudyez]

Gimme a starting lineup of

Murray, Hill, Green, Kawhi and any big not called Aldridge or Gasol for just a single game next season!

Wait...Pau Gasol that is.

[baseline bum]

Cmon...they aren't in rebuilding mode.

They pretty much are with Aldridge wanting out.

[baseline bum]

I am thinking a deal with Minnesota could work. I could see the following:

LMA and 29th for Rubio, Rush (or Jordan Hill) and the 7th pick. It gets us a pass first pg a decent shooter (back up big) and a lottery pick. There are other trades that I would prefer but I could see this one actually being done.

Fuck RC if he trades for Scrubio

[cjw]

Give it up.

Seriously. Spurs aren't adding KP unless a deal includes at least Murray and two firsts given they won't be good firsts, plus Aldridge or Green. Or Kawhi, but that's never happening

[LittleCriminal]

Give it up.

Yeah the Spurs would have to "Give It Up" as you just said..
Aldridge, Forbes, Green, 1st round pick and the 2nd round pick for K.Porzingis?

[mudyez]

What happens if you try to move a player and are unsuccessful? The following season do they just not show up?? Do they shoot in the other teams basket out of spite? How does that work?

Probably that already happened with LMA in the summer of 2016 so don't worry. He can't play any worse.

[BatManu20]

Lol at all these retarded trade packages for Porzingis. He's not coming to the Spurs, period. Deal with it.

[mudyez]

Yeah the Spurs would have to "Give It Up" as you just said..
Aldridge, Forbes, Green, 1st round pick and the 2nd round pick for K.Porzingis?

Spurs probably are the least probable destination Porz is going too. We don't have the assets and Phil hates Pop. So yeah...please give it up.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Aldridge + Green for Lebron

[TimDunkem]

Yeah the Spurs would have to "Give It Up" as you just said..
Aldridge, Forbes, Green, 1st round pick and the 2nd round pick for K.Porzingis?
Then the Knicks laugh and hang up.

[BatManu20]

Zero chance Portland would offer all 3 1st-round picks to us for Aldridge...

[TimDunkem]

Lol at all these retarded trade packages for Porzingis. He's not coming to the Spurs, period. Deal with it.

[Big Empty]

Hold onto Aldridge. Let him up his trade value before the deadline since he is going to opt out most likely, he may be under a contract year and it might light a fire under his ass. Then we might get something in return that has more value. This still is a team that made it to the WCF.

[rastaspur]

The timing of the report that the spurs are interested in d rose is interesting.

Gives flexibility if a porzing is deal can be worked out. Knicks can sign and trade him as part of the deal. Still think there is no way in he'll the spurs can get kristaps. If the knicks insist on throwing in Noah then that should be a deal breaker.

[DAF86]

I'm cool with getting a bag of chips for him, tbh. Team will be better off by just not having this huge cancer for 35 minutes per game out there.

[LittleCriminal]

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[mudyez]

In related news, Gunther Gabriel died today. Maybe we can trade LMA for his corbs. Make it happens PATFO!

[elbamba]

Fuck RC if he trades for Scrubio

I am just trying to think within the realm of possibility. I could also see a trade with Orland: Jeff Green, Jodie Meeks #6 and #33 for LMA and #29.

[raybies]

Zero chance Portland would offer all 3 1st-round picks to us for Aldridge...
I figured that much but the 15 and 20 might work. Leaves them a pick for a salary dump.

[TimDunkem]

Hold onto Aldridge. Let him up his trade value before the deadline since he is going to opt out most likely, he may be under a contract year and it might light a fire under his ass. Then we might get something in return that has more value. This still is a team that made it to the WCF.This doesn't make sense though. In my mind, a mid-season trade is punting away a season of Kawhi's prime. Too much shakeup to recover from. They need to either deal him now or wait out his contract.

[LittleCriminal]

Ill quit playing around..
Aside from KL and maybe Murray, the spurs have nothing to offer.

[rjv]

Sam Amick: The Suns haven’t talked to the Knicks in quite some time, I’m told, and also have nothing doing on the LaMarcus Aldridge front (http://hoopshype.com/social/).
– via Twitter sam_amick (http://twitter.com/sam_amick)

[baseline bum]

I am just trying to think within the realm of possibility. I could also see a trade with Orland: Jeff Green, Jodie Meeks #6 and #33 for LMA and #29.

I bet it's something more like #10 and a trade exception to Sacramento. Or maybe Cuban would throw the #9 pick and a trade exception. Or Denver #13 and a trade exception.

[TimDunkem]

I'm looking hard at Denver. They love draft night trades.

[eDizzle20]

I doubt a trade gets done for Aldridge today. The Spurs never make a trade based on a player requesting to be traded without equal value.

[SAGirl]

I don't know exactly what was discussed prior. However SAS spoke with a number of sources last night. He said that LMA wants off the Spurs team "bad". He felt his productivity was compromised joining the Spurs and his perception of a player around the league has been damaged. It sounds like he will not be on the team for this upcoming season, I guess the spurs are aggressively trying to get something done. He mentioned that Melo/PG13 trade could happen since they are considered "distressed" assets.
What a cancer TBH.
I am sure Danny Green could say playing with him affected his own efficiency and productivity, but Danny wouldn't say something like that. He couldn't explain his shooting slump last season except with a general reference to chemistry and himself...

Guys that blame others... I don't like that for the Spurs. It's not the culture they have built up. Now that Tony is injured and Manu with one foot in his retirement, what are the Spurs young players learning and getting used to? Get him the fuck out.

Kawhi working out with Dijon and Kyle over the summer to try to all come back better, that's what Spurs are about...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

What a cancer TBH.
I am sure Danny Green could say playing with him affected his own efficiency and productivity, but Danny wouldn't say something like that. He couldn't explain his shooting slump last season except with a general reference to chemistry and himself...

Guys that blame others... I don't like that for the Spurs. It's not the culture they have built up. Now that Tony is injured and Manu with one foot in his retirement, what are the Spurs young players learning and getting used to? Get him the fuck out.

Kawhi working out with Dijon and Kyle over the summer to try to all come back better, that's what Spurs are about...

His numbers are down and he is up for a new contract before too much longer.

He wasn't a catalytic player. C'est la vie.

[sasaint]

What a cancer TBH.
I am sure Danny Green could say playing with him affected his own efficiency and productivity, but Danny wouldn't say something like that. He couldn't explain his shooting slump last season except with a general reference to chemistry and himself...

Guys that blame others... I don't like that for the Spurs. It's not the culture they have built up. Now that Tony is injured and Manu with one foot in his retirement, what are the Spurs young players learning and getting used to? Get him the fuck out.

Kawhi working out with Dijon and Kyle over the summer to try to all come back better, that's what Spurs are about...

Yep. If LMA is still a Spur at the end of the night, I will be sorely disappointed.

[SAGirl]

Stephen A Smith pretty much said LaMarcus wants "out in the worst way" and that he feels the Spurs "compromised" him. Pretty blaming the Spurs for his shortcomings. SAS pretty much said he "had some nerve."

Hes getting traded,no doubt, if what SAS says is accurate.
:wow a cancer....

[elemento]

whatever

Bye soft piece of garbage.

[sasaint]

I'm looking hard at Denver. They love draft night trades.

I don't see their assets being a good trade/salary match for LMA. They have some guys I wouldn't mind having, but I can't see us getting them for LMA.

[TimDunkem]

I don't see their assets being a good trade/salary match for LMA. They have some guys I wouldn't mind having, but I can't see us getting them for LMA.
I was under the impression they had space. Could be wrong though.

[BatManu20]

Here's a write up about the situation by Amico.

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[DPG21920]

Any lottery pick for LMA would be a MASSIVE GET.

[DPG21920]

His numbers are down and he is up for a new contract before too much longer.

He wasn't a catalytic player. C'est la vie.

Why were his numbers down? Be specific. Or is this just your vague analysis with little substance that you keep parroting?

[SpursFan86]

Any lottery pick for LMA would be a MASSIVE GET.

This...even a late lottery pick would have me thrilled.

[TimDunkem]

Any lottery pick for LMA would be a MASSIVE GET.But, but, but Gospursgojas says trading for picks is going into rebuilding mode! :lmao

[look_at_g_shred]

Any lottery pick for LMA would be a MASSIVE GET.
Like I said, I have it feeling it's going to be the pistons at 12.

[rjv]

as for porzingis, i think NY is just going through the motions at this point. they are asking boston for BOTH picks from the nets, crowder and brown.

[RiverwalkParade]

Like I said, I have it feeling it's going to be the pistons at 12.

So who is involved? LMA for 12, Jackson and Stanley Johnson? I could live with that.

[SAGirl]

Stephen A Smith pretty much said LaMarcus wants "out in the worst way" and that he feels the Spurs "compromised" him. Pretty blaming the Spurs for his shortcomings. SAS pretty much said he "had some nerve."

Hes getting traded,no doubt, if what SAS says is accurate.
I am now thinking this is damaging for the Spurs trying to attract FA. They have to tread water with Gasol too. His shortcomings were well known and prior to his joining the Spurs he led the bulls to the lottery even with Jimmy Butler in the team in the east conference. Spurs should have never gone for him in restrospect, but Tim's retirement hit POP and RC specially hard and they didn't think want to rebuild after Durant spurned them. Regardless Pau went from starter to bench player in the Spurs and his production declined too. Can't have him adding fuel to the fire.

I d try to keep Lee he was great in the system and genuinely enjoyed playing with others.

[apalisoc_9]

Like I said, I have it feeling it's going to be the pistons at 12.

Damn..Wonder if the spurs can get Johnson and 12 for Aldridge and SImmons or ANderson and the 29th

[sasaint]

as for porzingis, i think NY is just going through the motions at this point. they are asking boston for BOTH picks from the nets, crowder and brown.

The Knicks would turn things around very quickly with that haul! No way! :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why were his numbers down? Be specific. Or is this just your vague analysis with little substance that you keep parroting?

How not to be an intellectual coward:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01.html

His points and rebounds are down ~20% from the 23 and 10 he averaged his last two years in POR.

[sasaint]

So who is involved? LMA for 12, Jackson and Stanley Johnson? I could live with that.

Don't see Pop getting jazzed over Kackson. Why are people so high on Johnson?

[SAGirl]

But how much more has his Spurs bashing undermined his value? I fear that THIS YEAR the Spurs will get pennies on the dollar.
To be fair, Manu4tres was very adamant he had to be traded last season b4 Spurs were in this exact situation...

[sexinthatsx]

I am now thinking this is damaging for the Spurs trying to attract FA. They have to tread water with Gasol too. His shortcomings were well known and prior to his joining the Spurs he led the bulls to the lottery even with Jimmy Butler in the team in the east conference. Spurs should have never gone for him in restrospect, but Tim's retirement hit POP and RC specially hard and they didn't think want to rebuild after Durant spurned them. Regardless Pau went from starter to bench player in the Spurs and his production declined too. Can't have him adding fuel to the fire.

I d try to keep Lee he was great in the system and genuinely enjoyed playing with others.

wait what? Pau is opting out to get a longer contract with the Spurs. For every one mentally weak player that wants out of the Spurs system, there's 10 others that got fat contracts out of it and flourished. Plus, if you think it's damaging you probably haven't watched the Spurs enough to know that Richard Jefferson got the same treatment.

[raybies]

I like the Paul George talk... boosts LMAs value. Pretty much what happened with Parker and Hill

[SAGirl]

Don't see Pop getting jazzed over Kackson. Why are people so high on Johnson?
He's worse than Kyle offensively. Kyle's thing is getting in spectator mode often, not a lack of ability. Johnson is a tremendously strong athlete with no skill whatsoever.

He is young though, but I think a long term project. I haven't been impressed by him.

[apalisoc_9]

Hope they dont trade for a white American...

[sasaint]

To be fair, Manu4tres was very adamant he had to be traded last season b4 Spurs were in this exact situation...

Preaching to the choir.

[RD2191]

Hope they dont trade for a white American...
:lmao

[sasaint]

He's worse than Kyle offensively. Kyle's thing is getting in spectator mode often, not a lack of ability. Johnson is a tremendously strong athlete with no skill whatsoever.

He is young though, but I think a long term project. I haven't been impressed by him.

Projects we ready have.

[DPG21920]

How not to be an intellectual coward:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/a/aldrila01.html

His points and rebounds are down ~20% from the 23 and 10 he averaged his last two years in POR.

I didn't say his stats weren't down you coward. I said for you to explain WHY his stats were down. Any idiot with a computer can look up a website and see his stats, dim. I'm asking for a detailed thesis on why his numbers are down you back peddling swine coward blowhard.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I didn't say his stats weren't down you coward. I said for you to explain WHY his stats were down. Any idiot with a computer can look up a website and see his stats, dim. I'm asking for a detailed thesis on why his numbers are down you back peddling swine coward blowhard.

I never said there was a reason. If I were to say that "there is a reason his numbers are down" then you would have a point. Unfortunately for you, I did not. Look up what a strawman is and educate yourself a bit.

My assertion was that his numbers were down. I proved it. No shit it was easy but that is besides the point. I am not the one making specious claims.

As for unreasonable standards, when I asked you to justify why you think that the Spurs could have done more in the offense to help him I named half a dozen specific things they did to help him. I am not asking you to do anything that I am not willing to do myself.

Instead we get your typical halfassed analysis that you whine about when asked to justify it.

[SAGirl]

Doesn't matter in the end. Dedmon walked, LaSoftus doesn't want to be here, TP is hurt, Manu can't be relied on, Simmons is going to get a huge contract, Mills and Green suck.

Last year was THAT team's last chance.
TIM with a good take. Have to give credit where it's due. Except I don't think Green sucks but he's a roleplayer that is enhanced playing with stars and when he has opportunity to get rhythm. He didn't get many with LMA.

[DPG21920]

But, but, but Gospursgojas says trading for picks is going into rebuilding mode! :lmao

I mean, it kind of is. It's a great opportunity to reset and quickly rebuild, but it's a big change. Especially if you trade Danny too.

That would be no LMA/Pau (maybe)/Danny/Mills (most likely)/Manu (maybe)/Dedmon/Lee (most likely) for some unknowns and a lot of cap space with no guarantee of replacing the talent you lost immediately with better talent.

The potential is damn good though especially you get a lottery pick for LMA and a first rounder for DG. 3 first round picks (including 1 lottery pick) + $45-50M in cap space to replace LMA/Danny/Dedmon/Pau?

[TimDunkem]

TIM with a good take. Have to give credit where it's due.
I'm capable now and then. :lol

[tonight...you]

I didn't say his stats weren't down you coward. I said for you to explain WHY his stats were down. Any idiot with a computer can look up a website and see his stats, dim. I'm asking for a detailed thesis on why his numbers are down you back peddling swine coward blowhard.
Wow... I'm trying to remember seeing you this riled up.

[DPG21920]

Wow... I'm trying to remember seeing you this riled up.

I'm not :lol. I'm mocking him for how he talks to people. He seems to think I care enough to go into detailed breakdowns for him when he's just an annoying idiot.

He asks for the most ridiculous things (Prove to me with examples exactly how what you say is true - when it's painfully obvious he's just ignorant on the subject).

[TimDunkem]

I mean, it kind of is. It's a great opportunity to reset and quickly rebuild, but it's a big change. Especially if you trade Danny too.

That would be no LMA/Pau (maybe)/Danny/Mills (most likely)/Manu (maybe)/Dedmon/Lee (most likely) for some unknowns and a lot of cap space with no guarantee of replacing the talent you lost immediately with better talent.

The potential is damn good though especially you get a lottery pick for LMA and a first rounder for DG. 3 first round picks (including 1 lottery pick) + $45-50M in cap space to replace LMA/Danny/Dedmon/Pau?It all goes without saying. It's what the Spurs need to do in order to contend on the fly.

As I've said before, last year was that team's last chance. We have the second best player in the world and some decent pieces. The Spurs are in a good spot to rebuild on the fly.

[tonight...you]

I'm not :lol. I'm mocking him for how he talks to people. He seems to think I care enough to go into detailed breakdowns for him when he's just an annoying idiot.

He asks for the most ridiculous things (Prove to me with examples exactly how what you say is true - when it's painfully obvious he's just ignorant on the subject).
Lol... right on. I was sitting there thinking- This is getting weird.

[RD2191]

Wow... I'm trying to remember seeing you this riled up.
:lol it's like that time he couldn't get on the rides at Disney world because of the height requirements

[DPG21920]

It would be dope, if SA is blowing it up anyways (to a degree) for SA to get Paul George.

[DPG21920]

It all goes without saying. It's what the Spurs need to do in order to contend on the fly.

As I've said before, last year was that team's last chance. We have the second best player in the world and some decent pieces. The Spurs are in a good spot to rebuild on the fly.

I agree. I'm more for trading LMA and DG than just trading DG tbh..at least that allows a full reset and custom build + getting a lot of the youth pipeline likely filled up (with a possible lottery level talent where SA doesn't miss)

[tonight...you]

:lol it's like that time he couldn't get on the rides at Disney world because of the height requirements
HA HA HA HA! What? He's short? You've hung out with the Deeps?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lol... right on. I was sitting there thinking- This is getting weird.

In another thread, he said that Spurs could have done more to help LMA. Another poster and I asked him to explain that. I went on to explain how they used staggered screens, pnr, weakside motion, backpicks, and misdirection to help him get post position.

Now he is taking this routine about how I am stupid and don't understand the offense when it should be self evident to explain his inability to explain himself. I've since got bored with it and moved on but he still maintains feelings apparently.

He does not like it when I describe his takes as facile analysis I guess.

[TheCerebral1]

Bye you fraud!