First Take: Aldridge Wants Out of SA; Blames Spurs for his Regression

[rastaspur]

LMA looking like a petulant little bitch right about now.

How does patfo not pick up on his bitchassedness before signing him is a head scratcher.

I guess the danny ferry loul deng comments are fitting. Guess he could go through the motions to say the right things so as to put up a front so his bitch assedness wasn't so evident.

[spursistan]

Yep. If he is a Spur after tonight, I will be very disappointed. But the Spurs have disappointed me before.
Yep..this is simply now about team morale more than anything. Any prospective success is going to be undermined by this cloud hanging over team. Spurs historically never put up with malcontents amongst them..

[cjw]

I don't understand what LMA's problem is, nor do i understand why everyone has a problem with him. The whole year, the offense revolved around Kawhi/Tony, with LMA being a 2nd/3rd banana depending on matchups. Then when those two go down and the Spurs are playing the best team in the league, we expect LMA to magically be a prime TD and average 20/20. That's not who LMA is at this point.

Yes, he played soft and got pushed around. But holy fuck, injuries just derailed the entire thing. I don't understand why you don't just try it again next year.

If you're in fact the third option you should get open looks galore, and be able to spend more energy on the boards. Also, how on earth does a guy who refused to play center in FA last time end up taking less than 1/2 a three per game during his two years in SA? It's like he never made an effort to incorporate it into his game.

I do think he was a better defender than people give him credit for, so there's that.

[noles1983]

Or is it an indication that he already IS GONE?

Hopefully!

[sasaint]

Yep..this is simply now about team morale more than anything. Any prospective success is going to be undermined by this cloud hanging over team. Spurs historically never put up with malcontents amongst them..

That is what I am hanging my hat on. :tu

[sasaint]

Hopefully!

I don't usually see silver linings, but I tend to believe he has already gotten word.

[BatManu20]

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Petty ass nigga GONE :lmao..

Lamarcus Saltridge :lol

[hater]

Your signature...jesus christ :lol..

U know every spur fan was like that

I was aint gona lie. He was a beast in portland

But Splitter raping his ass in the playoffs should have been a hint for us

[baseline bum]

Did that really happen ? Lol

Yeah, he ain't following the Spurs any more if you check his twitter page.

[baseline bum]

Or is it an indication that he already IS GONE?

http://images.faithtap.com/2015/09/boy-dog-praying.jpg

[gospursgojas]

Sadly, the fact that he un-followed Spurs IS a legit indication of the relationship btw LMA and Spurs. He takes Twitter that seriously.

[cd98]

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Petty ass nigga GONE :lmao..

He really should stop reading Spurstalk.

[Das Texan]

http://images.faithtap.com/2015/09/boy-dog-praying.jpg

[sasaint]

Yeah, he ain't following the Spurs any more if you check his twitter page.

I doubt even LMA unfollows his team if there is any chance he returns.

[baseline bum]

He really should stop reading Spurstalk.

Tweet this thread to that homo :lol

[Spurs 4 The Win]

OMG guyz, he just followed the Indiana Pacers on Twitter 2 minutes ago, does that mean Paul George is coming???

[sasaint]

He really should stop reading Spurstalk.

No doubt he will as soon as the trade is announced. :toast

[Play Boban]

??cut this clown.

[Chillen]

This explains why when Leonard got ZaZaed in that game 1 vs Warriors he seemed to play with no heart and they lost.

[cd98]

No doubt he will as soon as the trade is announced. :toast

I think that's how he'll find out he's traded...Spurstalk.

[sasaint]

OMG guyz, he just followed the Indiana Pacers on Twitter 2 minutes ago, does that mean Paul George is coming???

I believe it must. We just have to hear the terms of the trade. :toast

[Trill Clinton]

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Petty ass nigga GONE :lmao..

Lol

[jermaine]

OMG guyz, he just followed the Indiana Pacers on Twitter 2 minutes ago, does that mean Paul George is coming???

Swear??

[DPG21920]

I have a feeling this may not be resolved tonight

[sasaint]

I think that's how he'll find out he's traded...Spurstalk.

:lol :toast

[sasaint]

I have a feeling this may not be resolved tonight

I feel like it already is resolved. And the evidence is mounting.

[DesignatedT]

Aldridge is a dead man walking. He gone.

[mudyez]

Fuck, 1AM here and that bitch is still a Spur?

[gospursgojas]

OMG guyz, he just followed the Indiana Pacers on Twitter 2 minutes ago, does that mean Paul George is coming???

Seriously?

[HarlemHeat37]

Did he actually unfollow the Spurs? I don't believe that, tbh..that's 12-year old girl behavior..

[Big Empty]

If he did follow Indiana then its probably a done deal just no announced yet. I doubt its true.

[baseline bum]

Did he actually unfollow the Spurs? I don't believe that, tbh..that's 12-year old girl behavior..

Go to his twitter page and check who he's following: no Spurs twitter account listed.

[TimDunkem]

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[rasuo214]

Does anyone think Pop will cry when they get a deal done for LMA? Tears of joy, obviously.

[sasaint]

Did he actually unfollow the Spurs? I don't believe that, tbh..that's 12-year old girl behavior..

Not if he is no longer a Spur.

[gospursgojas]

Go to his twitter page and check who he's following: no Spurs twitter account listed.

I don't have twitter. Did he really follow Indy?

[spursistan]

https://twitter.com/aldridge_12/following

Nah..didn't follow Pacers but apparently unfollowed Spurs..

[SPURt]

Did he actually unfollow the Spurs? I don't believe that, tbh..that's 12-year old girl behavior..
He does have a surprisingly small vagina for a man his size

[SpursforSix]

Seriously?

I don't see that on his Twitter.

[dabom]

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Thanks skip for reminding other GMs that we fleeced one for an MVP-type player. :lol

[spursistan]

Almost confident he is getting traded before July 1st if not by the end of this night...

[HarlemHeat37]

He's like the Black Phil Jackson with this childish behavior..smh..

[sasaint]

https://twitter.com/aldridge_12/following

Nah..didn't follow Pacers but apparently unfollowed Spurs..

I fell for the bait. But I still believe unfollowing the Spurs is indication enough.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I don't have twitter. Did he really follow Indy?

No, Im sorry, shouldve done blue font, I was joking, I thought it was obvious :lol

[LkrFan]

Man, you guys are disrespectful. Someone should tweet this thread to LMA :lol

:downspin:

[BillMc]

LMA showing the wrong mindset. He won 67 and 61 with the Spurs, made an all-star and an all-nba one of his two seasons, and made the WCF the other season. If stats mean that much, he should be gone.

That said, ST fans who are happy shouldn't really be as this is likely a step back. Best case scenario is an injured, older Melo who is a worse defender than LMA, or a 1 year rental on George. Or a mid-level lottery pick that could be good down the line, but just as likely could be a bust or meh player. For all the disappointment, LMA's s almost certainly better that what we'll get back. Could cost us a few years of Kawhi's prime.

Hope I'm wrong. Will be ecstatic if somehow Spurs are a better team after this all shakes down.

[manufan10]

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[Spurs 4 The Win]

LMA showing the wrong mindset. He won 67 and 61 with the Spurs, made an all-star and an all-nba one of his two seasons, and made the WCF the other season. If stats mean that much, he should be gone.

That said, ST fans who are happy shouldn't really be as this is likely a step back. Best case scenario is an injured, older Melo who is a worse defender than LMA, or a 1 year rental on George. Or a mid-level lottery pick that could be good down the line, but just as likely could be a bust or meh player. For all the disappointment, he's almost certainly better that what we'll get back. Could cost us a few years of Kawhi's prime.

Hope I'm wrong. Will be ecstatic if somehow Spurs are a better team after this all shakes down.

Durant and Zaza did that. We arent winning next year unless we make big moves, if not, might as well rebuild for a year or two while still being very competitive.

[baseline bum]

Man, you guys are disrespectful. Someone should tweet this thread to LMA :lol

:downspin:

I'm going to tweet your message to Trump so he can have your ass thrown on the other side of the wall.

[BillMc]

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Better be getting LeBron or Kyrie back. Don't want Love or any of their scrubs.

[tonight...you]

Man, you guys are disrespectful. Someone should tweet this thread to LMA :lol

:downspin:
Yeah, like over and over.

[TFloss32]

OMG guyz, he just followed the Indiana Pacers on Twitter 2 minutes ago, does that mean Paul George is coming???

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[LkrFan]

I'm going to tweet your message to Trump so he can have your ass thrown on the other side of the wall.

:lmao

[UZER]

Man, you guys are disrespectful. Someone should tweet this thread to LMA :lol

:downspin:

I'm going send your Warrior fanboy threads to Magic.

[MannyIsGod]

Yes it is. There was no reason to keep calling that play. Pop should have called the high-lows he brought Pau in to run. The offense was predictable as hell, and it wasn't just LMA. Pop doesn't get to throw his hands in the air while collecting several million a year. It's his job to fix this shit, but nope, same plays over and over again while everyone but Kawhi had bad years.

LOL

Yeah, OK.

[Mikeanaro]

Lol, you go to one of the best teams to win a ring and instead of playing your best having TD giving you tips KL and others... you end up being a pansy clown that gets punked by point guards, the only fadeaway that actually worked is the one that you are pulling on the Spurs.

[DMC]

fuck aldridge

[MannyIsGod]

LOL no one is going to get that reference in 2017. :lol

Never felt the amount of hate for HITA as I do for this bitch. Not even RJ was this bad. This is a new low.

[tholdren]

fuck aldridge

Not if he brings spurs a top 10

[baseline bum]

Never felt the amount of hate for HITA as I do for this bitch. Not even RJ was this bad. This is a new low.

Go back and watch the 2002 second round Manny :lol

That was actually a winnable series unlike the 2017 WCF

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

People are dumb. They don't get how twitter works. LA is still following Murray,Parker, green, mills, Kyle, gasol, dedmond.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yes it is. There was no reason to keep calling that play. Pop should have called the high-lows he brought Pau in to run. The offense was predictable as hell, and it wasn't just LMA. Pop doesn't get to throw his hands in the air while collecting several million a year. It's his job to fix this shit, but nope, same plays over and over again while everyone but Kawhi had bad years.

Are you really trying to claim that they didn't have LMA in those high low looks? The reason why they went away was because Dedmon couldn't run them. They ran them whenever those two were on the court.

Even with the pared down playcalls the team struggled to execute. That is not anyone's fault but just the reality of the roster turnover we saw last year.

Nonetheless the ran double baseline screens to open him up coming across from the weakside. They would set a backpick on his man off the elevator to free him up. They'd send him to the post with penetration to keep the help honest, give post up opportunities, and offensive rebounding opportunities. If teams started hedging pnr they would have him slip the screen and go to the post. They used to put him in pnr with Kawhi and others and if there was a switch they would send him to the post.

It's not Pops fault that more than half the time he threw the ball out. And when they would repost him he would settle for the turnaround.

Frankly outside of increasing his minutes or taking away touches from Kawhi I don't see what they could have done. Most everyone else was opportunistic and did not have plays run for them. Should they have ahd him cherry pick?

[LkrFan]

I'm going send your Warrior fanboy threads to Magic.

:lol

[cutewizard]

leave our kingdom, pussy

[ECOV]

People are dumb. They don't get how twitter works. LA is still following Murray,Parker, green, mills, Kyle, gasol, dedmond.

I'm pretty sure he has nothing against them.

[davidbowie]

LMA is coming back and so is everyone else

we are gonna have the same damn team as last year

lol

[hater]

LMA is coming back and so is everyone else

we are gonna have the same damn team as last year

lol

True tbqh

We are not turning Lamarsha into Porzingis retards :lmao

[ducks]

People are dumb. They don't get how twitter works. LA is still following Murray,Parker, green, mills, Kyle, gasol, dedmond.

they are called damm snowflakes

[SAGirl]

This. I don't care if LA gets the ball 25' from the post. He should be able to back Harden down. Pansy ass beta.
You know, if he was too far away from the basket, he could always give it back and move to a cut to the basket to get it right back.... never saw him do it.

[DMC]

Sent away like Ragnar's bastard son

[cd98]

If trade doesn't go down, I'll blame ESPN for defaming LMA's abilities. They are scaring away all the dumb GMs.

[DPG21920]

I have a feeling this may not be resolved tonight

[SAGirl]

He will not be here next season. If he is still a Spur tomorrow morning, I will be disappointed.
I am starting to be disappointed... :depressed

[sexinthatsx]

True tbqh

We are not turning Lamarsha into Porzingis retards :lmao

Sometimes, I read your posts calling LMA Lamarsha and the negative comments, yet your sig is of a kid going nuts with the caption "...Spurs sign Lamarcus Aldridge and David West..." lol

[sasaint]

I am starting to be disappointed... :depressed

Yep. Me, too. But if they don't get it done tonight, they will trade LMA after July 6. He IS gone.

[tholdren]

Who cares... its happening

[SAGirl]

Does anyone think Pop will cry when they get a deal done for LMA? Tears of joy, obviously.
I do think he will be sad about Danny...

[DAF86]

Is this bitch gone already?

[SAGirl]

LMA showing the wrong mindset. He won 67 and 61 with the Spurs, made an all-star and an all-nba one of his two seasons, and made the WCF the other season. If stats mean that much, he should be gone.

That said, ST fans who are happy shouldn't really be as this is likely a step back. Best case scenario is an injured, older Melo who is a worse defender than LMA, or a 1 year rental on George. Or a mid-level lottery pick that could be good down the line, but just as likely could be a bust or meh player. For all the disappointment, LMA's s almost certainly better that what we'll get back. Could cost us a few years of Kawhi's prime.

Hope I'm wrong. Will be ecstatic if somehow Spurs are a better team after this all shakes down.
You are the voice of reason but he couldn't be appeased and was a cancer that would spread to poison the younger talent and the locker room. In hindsight, Timmys leadership kept the locker room the way it was and this is uncharted territory. He and Kawhi were never close and Lamarcus never seemed happy here. There is a reputation in the league not everyone can be a Spur and I see it. It's a shame. But sometimes you have a cancer like that and in reality you need to excise it as soon as detected even if the organ is not going to function similarly again.... bc otherwise you are dead ...

Bad simile but there wasn't anything to be done.

[Spur|n|Austin]

It won't happen tonight but LMA won't be a Spur next season.

[sasaint]

LMA showing the wrong mindset. He won 67 and 61 with the Spurs, made an all-star and an all-nba one of his two seasons, and made the WCF the other season. If stats mean that much, he should be gone.

That said, ST fans who are happy shouldn't really be as this is likely a step back. Best case scenario is an injured, older Melo who is a worse defender than LMA, or a 1 year rental on George. Or a mid-level lottery pick that could be good down the line, but just as likely could be a bust or meh player. For all the disappointment, LMA's s almost certainly better that what we'll get back. Could cost us a few years of Kawhi's prime.

Hope I'm wrong. Will be ecstatic if somehow Spurs are a better team after this all shakes down.

You are right. Our frontcourt is in shambles. However trade season begins again on July 6. Besides you are overlooking the stealth option - Milutinov! What - because he's a Slav and not a Latvian?

[BillMc]

You are right. Our frontcourt is in shambles. However trade season begins again on July 6. Besides you are overlooking the stealth option - Milutinov! What - because he's a Slav and not a Latvian?

Ha ha. No, I'd like to Milutinov over ASAP. Visa free entry for all Serbians over 6' 11":toast

[DAF86]

Faggot not gone yet?

[DAF86]

How about now?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Apparently Cleveland wants Aldridge and green

[DAF86]

Gift him away with a pick and money on top so somebody accepts his bum ass. Need nothing in return.

[tholdren]

Apparently Cleveland wants Aldridge and green

I dont get it. Why love is aldridge

[CGD]

LMA showing the wrong mindset. He won 67 and 61 with the Spurs, made an all-star and an all-nba one of his two seasons, and made the WCF the other season. If stats mean that much, he should be gone.

That said, ST fans who are happy shouldn't really be as this is likely a step back. Best case scenario is an injured, older Melo who is a worse defender than LMA, or a 1 year rental on George. Or a mid-level lottery pick that could be good down the line, but just as likely could be a bust or meh player. For all the disappointment, LMA's s almost certainly better that what we'll get back. Could cost us a few years of Kawhi's prime.

Hope I'm wrong. Will be ecstatic if somehow Spurs are a better team after this all shakes down.

Except LMA is effectively also a one year rental. Getting Paul George would keep the Spurs afloat next year. Kawhi would have to play more small ball 4, but that's OK.

[sasaint]

Ha ha. No, I'd like to Milutinov over ASAP. Visa free entry for all Serbians over 6' 11":toast

As long as they are Spurs. :toast

[DAF86]

Put him on a basket and left him on someone's front door.

[HarlemHeat37]

Put him on a basket and left him on someone's front door.

:lol

[100%duncan]

Oh my must be difficult being open all the time.
Oh my James harden 2 time dpoy is guarding me in the post!
Oh my I have a top 3 player in the league who can take other team's defensive attention away from me!!!

Anyone who makes excuses for this faggot, go ahead and kill yourselves.

[100%duncan]

Man atleast rj wasnt a locker room cancer

[baseline bum]

Put him on a basket and left him on someone's front door.

Good luck getting him within 12 feet of that basket

[Quiet Strength]

Good luck getting him within 12 feet of that basket

:lmao

[Captivus]

Good luck getting him within 12 feet of that basket

Best of the day!

[BatManu20]

Lol yea okay.

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[BatManu20]

Good luck getting him within 12 feet of that basket


Nice :lol

[Ron Swanson]

Good luck getting him within 12 feet of that basket


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[unleashbaynes]

:cry god damn you Aldridge for not averaging 40/20 against the warriors with Jonathon Simmons as your second option :cry

[Mnky]

Aldridge did what he was supposed to when Kawhi was in. He was a major part of that lead. He crumbled without him, and so did everyone else outside of simmons and Murray. It wont be the worst thing to have the second best team in the nba coming back next year, with possible PG upgrades, and legitimate dribbling in the second unit with these two new slashers they drafted.

[DAF86]

:cry god damn you Aldridge for not averaging 40/20 against the warriors with Jonathon Simmons as your second option :cry

Could have at least done better than 11 and 5 while shooting under 40% from the field, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-VrKgKYApo

[unleashbaynes]

Could have at least done better than 11 and 5 while shooting under 40% from the field, tbh.

:lmao literally all the warriors had to do was double/triple team aldridge. There was no other threat to create any offense on the floor.

[DAF86]

:lmao literally all the warriors had to do was double/triple team aldridge. There was no other threat to create any offense on the floor.

Good players still find ways of being effective despite double or triple teams. Do you see Leonard shiting the bed so bad, against the Warriors, without TP and Aldridge? Yeah, didn't think so.

Anyway, Why so interested on defending this useless POS? Are you a relative or something?

[ECOV]

Lol yea okay.

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im so confused, but he unfollowed the spurs on twitter though.

[cjw]

im so confused, but he unfollowed the spurs on twitter though.

Did he unfollow or never follow?

I don't follow my employer. Do you?

[timtonymanu]

Lol yea okay.

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Translation: No one bit on our Aldridge offer. Weather the storm, etc.

[Ditty]

I would've actually liked Aldridge back especially if we were able to land CP3 in our salary cap range.

If it still doesn't work out, he opts out & both parties move on.

It seems like it is more "when" than if he gets traded within the next couple of days.

[DeRozan m8]

:cry god damn you Aldridge for not averaging 40/20 against the warriors with Jonathon Simmons as your second option :cry

Well this f@ggot didn't watch any games

[SAGirl]

Good luck getting him within 12 feet of that basket
:toast:lol

[SnakeBoy]

Stephen A. Smith just said...IF this is true

That's a big if considering the source

[SAGirl]

Lol yea okay.

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Damage control... I guess he can't start running his mouth right now bc it puts him in a worse bargaining position. He can't seem desperate. Thanks for sharing that tidbit. :tu

[SAGirl]

Aldridge did what he was supposed to when Kawhi was in. He was a major part of that lead. He crumbled without him, and so did everyone else outside of simmons and Murray. It wont be the worst thing to have the second best team in the nba coming back next year, with possible PG upgrades, and legitimate dribbling in the second unit with these two new slashers they drafted.
And Kyle Anderson :tu

[SAGirl]

:lmao literally all the warriors had to do was double/triple team aldridge. There was no other threat to create any offense on the floor.
He can't pass the ball. If he could the double teaming would stop... Manu got 7 assists in that last game. Spurs were better without Aldridge by far. Spurs still scored over 100 points without him ...

[rasuo214]

Good players still find ways of being effective despite double or triple teams. Do you see Leonard shiting the bed so bad, against the Warriors, without TP and Aldridge? Yeah, didn't think so.

Anyway, Why so interested on defending this useless POS? Are you a relative or something?

Kawhi was getting doubled and tripled at the end of the season and found a way to succeed. Aldridge, a 10 year vet, for some reason refuses to go left when teams are daring him. His only decent series in the playoffs (this year) was against a team that was defending him with guards.

[Chris]

a big man who had troubles posting up Harden...

Dear God don't remind me :lol Infuriating to watch and the non hustle getting back on D.

[unleashbaynes]

Good players still find ways of being effective despite double or triple teams. Do you see Leonard shiting the bed so bad, against the Warriors, without TP and Aldridge? Yeah, didn't think so.

Anyway, Why so interested on defending this useless POS? Are you a relative or something?

Kawhi Leonard is obviously better than LMA....are you really comparing those two? We didn't bring Aldridge here to be an iso/passing out of a double team guy. We were playing the fucking Warriors dude. Quit freaking out that Lamarcus Aldridge didn't have a switch where he could suddenly turn into prime Kevin McHale.

[unleashbaynes]

He can't pass the ball. If he could the double teaming would stop... Manu got 7 assists in that last game. Spurs were better without Aldridge by far. Spurs still scored over 100 points without him ...

Omg, you mean Manu, one of the best passers ever, had more assists than LMA? Shocking.

[cjw]

Omg, you mean Manu, one of the best passers ever, had more assists than LMA? Shocking.

Manu, who was basically playing PG that series.

[sasaint]

Dear God don't remind me :lol Infuriating to watch and the non hustle getting back on D.

And some ST posters arguing that we should just bring this POS cancer back. SMH, even though it won't happen. Still SMH.

[cd98]

TBH, LMA had a great first year with us. He was an all star and his jumper was falling. When we lost to the Thunder, he wasn't taking the heat. This year he missed shots he made the first year. He also looked a little overweight. But what really probably set him off is when Kawhi went down and he became the man. That means if you don't step up, you take the heat. I'm not sure he ever took heat like he did with his performance v GSW. Even in Portland he never took that heat. And I'm sure he never thought he'd take it on a team like SA that favors team over the individual. And he was crucified. Not just by Spurstalk, but by the national media. That hurts and it's a little unfair given who they were playing and the circumstances. Sure he's being petty now, but acknowledge that if the national media was roasting us like it did him, we'd be unhappy too. Just look at the heat he took from Pierce, a perennial loser until he got carried by KG and Ray Allen, saying that the 40 year old version of him was better than LMA, which is garbage.

[sasaint]

Kawhi was getting doubled and tripled at the end of the season and found a way to succeed. Aldridge, a 10 year vet, for some reason refuses to go left when teams are daring him. His only decent series in the playoffs (this year) was against a team that was defending him with guards.

Time to get a real center. And we will. Or at least we will not see LMA in silver and black again.

[sasaint]

Omg, you mean Manu, one of the best passers ever, had more assists than LMA? Shocking.

The basic point is that LMA is a black hole who cannot pass the ball. Heck, he can't anticipate double-teams and see the need to pass the ball.

[sasaint]

TBH, LMA had a great first year with us. He was an all star and his jumper was falling. When we lost to the Thunder, he wasn't taking the heat. This year he missed shots he made the first year. He also looked a little overweight. But what really probably set him off is when Kawhi went down and he became the man. That means if you don't step up, you take the heat. I'm not sure he ever took heat like he did with his performance v GSW. Even in Portland he never took that heat. And I'm sure he never thought he'd take it on a team like SA that favors team over the individual. And he was crucified. Not just by Spurstalk, but by the national media. That hurts and it's a little unfair given who they were playing and the circumstances. Sure he's being petty now, but acknowledge that if the national media was roasting us like it did him, we'd be unhappy too. Just look at the heat he took from Pierce, a perennial loser until he got carried by KG and Ray Allen, saying that the 40 year old version of him was better than LMA, which is garbage.

All fair points. But it doesn't alter how things are now after his whining. Gotta go!

[unleashbaynes]

The basic point is that LMA is a black hole who cannot pass the ball. Heck, he can't anticipate double-teams and see the need to pass the ball.

I know, he sucks with that, and the Dubs exploited the shit out of it. It's frustrating to watch him not be able to get post position but i can still accept that they had zero chance to beat the Dubs without Kawhi.

If LMA was a great postup scorer and passer, he wouldn't be playing for SA in the first place.

[cd98]

Dubs made a lot of teams and players look stupid. And the league allows wrestling in the post, esp by smaller defenders. But if bigs get physical back, they get an offensive foul. Sure, LMA played bad against Warriors (as did other bigs) but given their strength is doubling and given that two mainstays were gone, the results are not that surprising.

[sasaint]

I know, he sucks with that, and the Dubs exploited the shit out of it. It's frustrating to watch him not be able to get post position but i can still accept that they had zero chance to beat the Dubs without Kawhi.

If LMA was a great postup scorer and passer, he wouldn't be playing for SA in the first place.

True, we had zero chance. But that doesn't excuse lack of effort and rote, lazy, uninspired play - which is what I saw in LMA. Other guys continued to fight.

Why wouldn't he be playing for the Spurs if he possessed those skills? He was the biggest name FA two years ago, and the Spurs compensated him accordingly.

[unleashbaynes]

True, we had zero chance. But that doesn't excuse lack of effort and rote, lazy, uninspired play - which is what I saw in LMA. Other guys continued to fight.

Why wouldn't he be playing for the Spurs if he possessed those skills? He was the biggest name FA two years ago, and the Spurs compensated him accordingly.

He'd have been contending in Portland and they would have fully maxed him out.

[sasaint]

He'd have been contending in Portland and they would have fully maxed him out.

Maybe. The Blazers were aware of his abilities and shortcomings. (Why wasn't Pop?) But that overlooks the off-court/character issues that we are getting a first-hand look at now. The guy has a fragile psyche that manifested itself in antipathy toward Lillard in Portland.

We don't know exactly how it is manifesting itself here, except that there seems to be such a significant breach between LMA and the organization - really Pop - that he has publicly blamed the organization for his regression. Under those circumstances I cannot imagine the keep-it-in-house, never-air-your-dirty-laundry-in-public Spurs ever enduring his continued presence. When Pop was recruiting him, in fact, ST was more focused on his star value and whether, with his quirky, introverted character, LMA would fit in here. Nobody was focused on his abilities and shortcomings on the court. If Pop was, he apparently believed (mistakenly) that he could teach LMA how to recognize double teams and become an effective passer, and overcome his soft tendencies and reliance on his fade-aways and mold him into some facsimile of Timmy. It didn't work. The guy has now compounded those on-court shortcomings by committing the cardinal Spur sin of going public with his beef against the organization. He is G-O-N-E, and he must be in order for the Spurs to preserve their culture.

[baseline bum]

Dubs made a lot of teams and players look stupid. And the league allows wrestling in the post, esp by smaller defenders. But if bigs get physical back, they get an offensive foul. Sure, LMA played bad against Warriors (as did other bigs) but given their strength is doubling and given that two mainstays were gone, the results are not that surprising.

The Rockets made him look stupid too. You can't argue defense is their strength.

[sasaint]

The Rockets made him look stupid too. You can't argue defense is their strength.

Especially Harden!

[Joseph Kony]

Of course RC isnt going to say anything bad, the reports probably already damaged LA's trade value...but it's pretty clear he intends to trade him based on the "if we can be better we will do it" comment tbh

[sasaint]

Of course RC isnt going to say anything bad, the reports probably already damaged LA's trade value...but it's pretty clear he intends to trade him based on the "if we can be better we will do it" comment tbh

Exactly! The dude went public with his beef against the team! :nope No way he violates Spur culture like that and comes back!

[SAGirl]

Omg, you mean Manu, one of the best passers ever, had more assists than LMA? Shocking.. You were claiming no one could score... flat out lie.
some assists were the easiest passes ever to Kyle Anderson tbh it's like you didn't watch the game tbh

[SAGirl]

Kawhi Leonard is obviously better than LMA....are you really comparing those two? We didn't bring Aldridge here to be an iso/passing out of a double team guy. We were playing the fucking Warriors dude. Quit freaking out that Lamarcus Aldridge didn't have a switch where he could suddenly turn into prime Kevin McHale.
At this stage... Jon Simmons and Kyle Anderson were better than him. With enough work on his shot maybe by next season already Murray will be too. He was Trash... trash.
So, it's true he didn't want to be here.

[SAGirl]

Manu, who was basically playing PG that series.
Its relevant bc he's ckaimimg guys couldn't score. That's just a lie...

[SAGirl]

TBH, LMA had a great first year with us. He was an all star and his jumper was falling. When we lost to the Thunder, he wasn't taking the heat. This year he missed shots he made the first year. He also looked a little overweight. But what really probably set him off is when Kawhi went down and he became the man. That means if you don't step up, you take the heat. I'm not sure he ever took heat like he did with his performance v GSW. Even in Portland he never took that heat. And I'm sure he never thought he'd take it on a team like SA that favors team over the individual. And he was crucified. Not just by Spurstalk, but by the national media. That hurts and it's a little unfair given who they were playing and the circumstances. Sure he's being petty now, but acknowledge that if the national media was roasting us like it did him, we'd be unhappy too. Just look at the heat he took from Pierce, a perennial loser until he got carried by KG and Ray Allen, saying that the 40 year old version of him was better than LMA, which is garbage.
He Deserves the heat he got. If he was a roleplayer no one would care. But he's the highest paid guy in the team former all star etc. And there were young Spurs who outsplayed him, and just competed harder ... even in a loss you could save face. He wasn't even trying. Frankly Gasol was disgustingly bad but I didn't get the impression with him that he wasn't competing. Unfortunately he's just declined... but he competed. Lamarcus looked like he was playing a preseason game. Doubting on being aggressive.

I felt sorry bc I think he just doesn't know if he should take a shot or pass. Simple... but he couldn't do it... so he started being passive.

[ernest787]

Unless it was earlier in the thread, he did not claim no one could score. He claimed there was no one else to create offense.

Outside of Kawhi, Parker, and Manu (when he's having a throwback game) the Spurs do not have players that are creators.

I'm just as disappointed in LMA's performance as anyone and really want him off the team. That said, he was put in a rough position in the WCF without Kawhi and Parker and took a beating for his play. The team around him at the time would not have won 50 games this year. He probably should have been cut a little slack in the media, but I think everyone was turned off by his lack of desire to compete... or at least the perceived lack of desire to compete.

Either way, anything that happened in that series outside of game 1 is fools gold. The Spurs were playing neutered and throwing stuff against the wall to see what would stick. Golden State knew there was 0 chance the Spurs could beat them in that state and took away the only option the Spurs had.

[RD2191]

I honestly have no idea what RC and Pop were thinking when they signed LMA. They fucked up big time.

[eDizzle20]

The only team I could see giving anything up for Aldridge is Phoenix. Aldridge would likely be willing to re-sign there. They would probably be willing to give up Len since they have so many frontline guys. The leak of Aldridge not wanting to play for the Spurs greatly reduced any value the Spurs could get for him.

[Rito3d30]

No way hes with the team anymore
Even him selves has stated it through his twitter account

[cd98]

The Rockets made him look stupid too. You can't argue defense is their strength.

He had up and down games against the Rockets. Everyone knows he's a 2 or a 3 and not a 1. For example, Klay Thompson sucked in many games, but he's still viewed as a 2 or 3 because he was good in a few games.

[cd98]

He Deserves the heat he got. If he was a roleplayer no one would care. But he's the highest paid guy in the team former all star etc. And there were young Spurs who outsplayed him, and just competed harder ... even in a loss you could save face. He wasn't even trying. Frankly Gasol was disgustingly bad but I didn't get the impression with him that he wasn't competing. Unfortunately he's just declined... but he competed. Lamarcus looked like he was playing a preseason game. Doubting on being aggressive.

I felt sorry bc I think he just doesn't know if he should take a shot or pass. Simple... but he couldn't do it... so he started being passive.

Do you think GSW worried about stopping Anderson. Their goal was stop LMA and Patty and let the others score. And it worked. Sure LMA played poor, but I'm just saying keep it in context. People want to dump him in trades that will hurt the Spurs. That's stupid. If you can't get something better, keep him. He's still a good player. I'm mostly commenting on his attitude, which is understandably bad after the beating he took in the media. A beating that should be reserved to MVP level talent. He's never been that.

[BatManu20]

LMA for Carmelo incoming.

XCUI8MJfMnc

[TheGoldStandard]

At this point with the speculation and the gaping holes that are looming given the cap situation and players potentially on their way out for better deals... I doubt we get rid of him for anything of value.

[BatManu20]

Paul Pierce is high


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[sasaint]

Do you think GSW worried about stopping Anderson. Their goal was stop LMA and Patty and let the others score. And it worked. Sure LMA played poor, but I'm just saying keep it in context. People want to dump him in trades that will hurt the Spurs. That's stupid. If you can't get something better, keep him. He's still a good player. I'm mostly commenting on his attitude, which is understandably bad after the beating he took in the media. A beating that should be reserved to MVP level talent. He's never been that.

Regardless of how you analyze the GS series, LMA has committed a cardinal Spur sin by publicly blaming his regression on the organization. The Spurs will never tolerate that. They will dump him for a 3rd round pick before they welcome him back to the fold. He is GONE.

[Captivus]

Regardless of how you analyze the GS series, LMA has committed a cardinal Spur sin by publicly blaming his regression on the organization. The Spurs will never tolerate that. They will dump him for a 3rd round pick before they welcome him back to the fold. He is GONE.

Maybe they go full EVIL! Dont trade him...just dont play him regardless of the cost...haha.

[cd98]

Regardless of how you analyze the GS series, LMA has committed a cardinal Spur sin by publicly blaming his regression on the organization. The Spurs will never tolerate that. They will dump him for a 3rd round pick before they welcome him back to the fold. He is GONE.

If he asked for a trade, they will accommodate him if it is to their benefit. But he is frustrated about how things turned out. I don't know that they can't convince him to comeback and give 100%. The Spurs will allow players to be human and express frustration, even to the media, and especially with the heat that he got. But people here want to dump him at all costs, which is a dumb decision. People also act like he's not a good player, he is. If he doesn't want to be here, fine, but that doesn't mean the Spurs don't think he is a legit player.

[noles1983]

If he asked for a trade, they will accommodate him if it is to their benefit. But he is frustrated about how things turned out. I don't know that they can't convince him to comeback and give 100%. The Spurs will allow players to be human and express frustration, even to the media, and especially with the heat that he got. But people here want to dump him at all costs, which is a dumb decision. People also act like he's not a good player, he is. If he doesn't want to be here, fine, but that doesn't mean the Spurs don't think he is a legit player.

Addition by subtraction. Fuck LMA, if he doesn't want to be here he should be sent packing for the best they can get, even if its a fucking bag of doritos. This soft piece of shit is a liability.

[sasaint]

If he asked for a trade, they will accommodate him if it is to their benefit. But he is frustrated about how things turned out. I don't know that they can't convince him to comeback and give 100%. The Spurs will allow players to be human and express frustration, even to the media, and especially with the heat that he got. But people here want to dump him at all costs, which is a dumb decision. People also act like he's not a good player, he is. If he doesn't want to be here, fine, but that doesn't mean the Spurs don't think he is a legit player.

It really has very little to do with whether he is a good player. (You obviously like his soft game better than I do.) I cannot remember any Spur who went public with his criticism of PATFO and remained on the team. SJax said he was a better player than Manu (possibly accurate at the time) and deserved more playing time, and he was sent packing immediately. LMA is blaming the organization for his regression - and doing so publicly. I can't imagine the Spurs abiding that, especially when it seems obvious that there is a significant breach between LMA and Pop.

[sasaint]

Maybe they go full EVIL! Dont trade him...just dont play him regardless of the cost...haha.

:lol Except they need to do something to shore up a frontcourt that is currently in shambles.

[SAGirl]

Do you think GSW worried about stopping Anderson. Their goal was stop LMA and Patty and let the others score. And it worked. Sure LMA played poor, but I'm just saying keep it in context. People want to dump him in trades that will hurt the Spurs. That's stupid. If you can't get something better, keep him. He's still a good player. I'm mostly commenting on his attitude, which is understandably bad after the beating he took in the media. A beating that should be reserved to MVP level talent. He's never been that.
They did guard KA with Durant and Draymond Green. Kyle was active off the ball and setting screens, cutting etc... he has a higher bbiq and it served him well. He competed. He had his bad games shooting (game 2) but you didn't watch him and get the impression he didn't come to play.

In the middle of the series Jon Simms shooting cooled off, he didn't score efficiently or well the past couple of games uric but you also didn't come out with the impression he didn't compete. Dijon was horrible with his shooting, he didn't score efficiently, but again he competed, he was aggressive going to the basket, etc. Heck as I said Pay was terrible... frankly Mills was like the worst guard in the entire series, accounting for all guards who played from both teams, but I would not say Mills wasn't trying... Lamarcus was extremely passive.. one of ghee press conferences Pop mentioned it.. again doubting on shots, taking the bad ones and passing up his good ones. Maybe he was shook... that's why he's gotten this reputation that he's mentally soft on top of physically playing soft.

[south side spur]

It's not so much dumping him at all costs because he's not producing. It's more dumping him to ensure the culture isn't compromised. Duncan is gone, Parker and Ginobili will be gone soon enough. Players cultivate the "Spurs Way" just as much as management.

Aldridge is new and I'm sure he is frustrated but most athletes aren't true Spurs. Culture is delicate. Can 20 years be undone in a few seasons? Probably not but why risk it? I wanted to see more Bertans for the majority of the season so how much worse would the Spurs fall off without Aldridge?

In my opinion maybe just a little drop off but not enough to put up with this bullshit. Gasol, Bertans and Milutinov are enough to keep the Spurs contenders.

[Ice009]

They can always tell Aldridge, look we're not trading you because your stock is so low and no-one wants to give up anything of value for you, you need to get your ass in shape and show teams at the start of the regular season that you're still a good player.

They can definitely start the season with him if they don't get any good offers that they like. It's up to LaMarcus to stop being a pussy and show teams that he's still a good player.

[duncan2k5]

Its not just about numbers...may times he wasn't giving the effort either offensively or defensively

[DAF86]

Kawhi Leonard is obviously better than LMA....are you really comparing those two? We didn't bring Aldridge here to be an iso/passing out of a double team guy. We were playing the fucking Warriors dude. Quit freaking out that Lamarcus Aldridge didn't have a switch where he could suddenly turn into prime Kevin McHale.

I don't want him to be prime McHale, I want him to at least not suck, tbh. :lol

Saying shit like: "Do you want him to be prime McHale?", or "Did you expect him to drop 40 and 20?" when the dude barely got 11 and 5 on less than 40% shooting. :lol

That some dishonest arguing if I ever saw one. :lol

[Ice009]

Its not just about numbers...may times he wasn't giving the effort either offensively or defensively

True.

Can trades still be discussed right now, or is that not allowed from now until July 1st?

[sasaint]

It's not so much dumping him at all costs because he's not producing. It's more dumping him to ensure the culture isn't compromised. Duncan is gone, Parker and Ginobili will be gone soon enough. Players cultivate the "Spurs Way" just as much as management.

Aldridge is new and I'm sure he is frustrated but most athletes aren't true Spurs. Culture is delicate. Can 20 years be undone in a few seasons? Probably not but why risk it? I wanted to see more Bertans for the majority of the season so how much worse would the Spurs fall off without Aldridge?

In my opinion maybe just a little drop off but not enough to put up with this bullshit. Gasol, Bertans and Milutinov are enough to keep the Spurs contenders.

Yes, exactly what I have been saying. Except with the old guard Spurs gone or departing in the very near future, I believe the culture is so delicate at this moment that the Spurs culture could, indeed, be compromised beyond repair in a single season by somebody like LMA. Experiment failed; next up.

[SAGirl]

They can always tell Aldridge, look we're not trading you because your stock is so low and no-one wants to give up anything of value for you, you need to get your ass in shape and show teams at the start of the regular season that you're still a good player.

They can definitely start the season with him if they don't get any good offers that they like. It's up to LaMarcus to stop being a pussy and show teams that he's still a good player.
I imagine in exit interviews they cut him all the slack in the world for playing without Tony or Kawhi... probably promised to upgrade the PG spot at all costs and not start Dijon for example, to get an experienced guard next to him. They must have told him they'd get the best guard available that they could get etc... but he appears to have still wanted out. Things soured and have gone south.

[sasaint]

True.

Can trades still be discussed right now, or is that not allowed from now until July 1st?

July 1 is when the FA moratorium ends. July 6 is the next date that trades can be made. I am not sure about trade discussions. As a practical matter, how could the league enforce a "no discussion ban"?

[sasaint]

They can always tell Aldridge, look we're not trading you because your stock is so low and no-one wants to give up anything of value for you, you need to get your ass in shape and show teams at the start of the regular season that you're still a good player.

They can definitely start the season with him if they don't get any good offers that they like. It's up to LaMarcus to stop being a pussy and show teams that he's still a good player.

The Spurs will never bring back a guy who aired his dirty laundry in public. That's a serious no-no. Spurs will never compromise their culture by having LMA back. Can you imagine the reception his own home crowd would give him in the home opener? He is GONE.

[SAGirl]

Regardless of how you analyze the GS series, LMA has committed a cardinal Spur sin by publicly blaming his regression on the organization. The Spurs will never tolerate that. They will dump him for a 3rd round pick before they welcome him back to the fold. He is GONE.
It destroys the culture. I think bottom line, when the dust settles on that series, even as disappointed as Pop was he realized they needed him, would be unlikely to get better through trade (let's remind ourselves he was already rumored to be in the market last preseason)... but then he couldn't be appeased. He blamed others for his own failures.

[sasaint]

I imagine in exit interviews they cut him all the slack in the world for playing without Tony or Kawhi... probably promised to upgrade the PG spot at all costs and not start Dijon for example, to get an experienced guard next to him. They must have told him they'd get the best guard available that they could get etc... but he appears to have still wanted out. Things soured and have gone south.

Seems out-of-character for you to speculate wildly. Do you know something? Because I imagine that they were pretty tough on the guy in the exit interview. (He probably wishes he had skipped it. :lol)

[San Antonio Slayer]

He played ugly for sure but with all respect to Smith and his reliable sources it could be untrue that LMA blamed spurs for his regression and he wanted out. I dont believe it though I want some serious moves to be done to get some new blood.

[duncan2k5]

If he asked for a trade, they will accommodate him if it is to their benefit. But he is frustrated about how things turned out. I don't know that they can't convince him to comeback and give 100%. The Spurs will allow players to be human and express frustration, even to the media, and especially with the heat that he got. But people here want to dump him at all costs, which is a dumb decision. People also act like he's not a good player, he is. If he doesn't want to be here, fine, but that doesn't mean the Spurs don't think he is a legit player.

He didnt give 100% THIS season...what makes u think he will after making it public he wants out? So he can leave for nothing after next season?

[mo7888]

Do we want him gone bad enough to offer LMA and Green for Wade and Portis?

Wade probably wants out of Chicago as bad as LMA want out of here right now.

[sasaint]

He played ugly for sure but with all respect to Smith and his reliable sources it could be untrue that LMA blamed spurs for his regression and he wanted out. I dont believe it though I want some serious moves to be done to get some new blood.

I think LMA's unfollowing the Spurs on his Twitter account last night pretty much confirms all the rumors - even Jackie McMullen's last off-season.

[sasaint]

Do we want him gone bad enough to offer LMA and Green for Wade and Portis?

Wade probably wants out of Chicago as bad as LMA want out of here right now.

I thought I saw a report that Wade was opting out of his deal. (I admit I haven't checked his contract status.) If not, I would do that in a heartbeat. I like Portis.

[rjv]

I thought I saw a report that Wade was opting out of his deal. (I admit I haven't checked his contract status.) If not, I would do that in a heartbeat. I like Portis. no, he opted in and said there were 24 million reasons why.

[south side spur]

He didnt give 100% THIS season...what makes u think he will after making it public he wants out? So he can leave for nothing after next season?

Simple. He realizes it's in his best interests to do everything in his power to repair his image. He had to hear and read all the criticism aimed at him these past few days. Athletes aren't usually the most self aware so this was yet ANOTHER epiphany. He has received no sympathy from anyone.

His desperate housewife act will more than likely return to being faithful.

[mo7888]

I thought I saw a report that Wade was opting out of his deal. (I admit I haven't checked his contract status.) If not, I would do that in a heartbeat. I like Portis.

I think Wade is going to opt in (I saw where he said he had 23 million reasons to opt in). Then I think he's either going to push for a trade or buyout.

I'm a Portis fan too.

[sasaint]

no, he opted in and said there were 24 million reasons why.

Then do it, RC!

Actually, I don't know what the plan is now for acquiring a veteran PG this off-season. But if we must move Danny and renounce guys in addition to having Pau opt out, the Spurs obviously would have to make a choice.

With the LMA development, it makes filling their needs (never mind their wish list) very tricky. Personally, I would just as soon lower expectations for a veteran PG to Patrick Beverly.

[baseline bum]

Wade's going to try to negotiate a buyout to go play with LeBron for a year.

[Mr. Body]

I'd take Wade in a heartbeat.

[sasaint]

I think Wade is going to opt in (I saw where he said he had 23 million reasons to opt in). Then I think he's either going to push for a trade or buyout.

I'm a Portis fan too.

Yeah, seems like I remember some analyst on ESPN suggesting that Wade was a good candidate for a buyout. Another analyst raised his eyebrows and said that a buyout from the tight-fisted Chicago Bulls didn't seem likely. :lol

[Brazil]

Good luck getting him within 12 feet of that basket

:lmao

[gambit1990]

would much rather pay wade $15 million for one season than tony.

[tmtcsc]

Make it happen RC

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/1746/3lipLK.jpg

[gambit1990]

Make it happen RC

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/1746/3lipLK.jpg
:lol

i'd do that deal in a heartbeat. and i don't even like original funyuns.

[DAF86]

:lol

[SAGirl]

Seems out-of-character for you to speculate wildly. Do you know something? Because I imagine that they were pretty tough on the guy in the exit interview. (He probably wishes he had skipped it. :lol)
No. a little bit of Madame Mim here. :lol
Just hearing Pop cut him slack at the end of season media interview and at the end of the series interview I knew that even as disappointed as Pop was, he must have been reasonable... I don't think he'd want to destroy the guys trade value or alienate him either way, but I think all the things said here in his defense Pop accepted as an excuse. Pop has cut slack to star players for missing shots, but the non-competing is where I expect they had a rift and I think things souring on Lamarcus end was the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't think Pop went into that meeting telling him he'd be traded...
But obviously yes, this was Madame Mim talking in my ear.:lol

[tmtcsc]

:lol

i'd do that deal in a heartbeat. and i don't even like original funyuns.

We get the better deal, tbh. The Funyuns have a longer expiration date.

[baseline bum]

Make it happen RC

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/1746/3lipLK.jpg

I want a Cima Red too.

[sasaint]

Make it happen RC

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/1746/3lipLK.jpg

What was the number of projected wins for the Spurs?

[tmtcsc]

No. a little bit of Madame Mim here. :lol
Just hearing Pop cut him slack at the end of season media interview and at the end of the series interview I knew that even as disappointed as Pop was, he must have been reasonable... I don't think he'd want to destroy the guys trade value or alienate him either way, but I think all the things said here in his defense Pop accepted as an excuse. Pop has cut slack to star players for missing shots, but the non-competing is where I expect they had a rift and I think things souring on Lamarcus end was the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't think Pop went into that meeting telling him he'd be traded...
But obviously yes, this was Madame Mim talking in my ear.:lol

Exactly. There's no excuse for that.

Pop: Lamarcus, we need you to be in shape and ready to go when camp starts. We're also going to get you some coaching help for dealing with double-teams too.

Aldridge: http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/media/2.0/teamsites/spurs/la1.gif

[tmtcsc]

I want a Cima Red too.

C'mon now, don't get greedy. We're getting a bag of Funyuns for Aldridge AND Tony.

[gambit1990]

What was the number of projected wins for the Spurs?
can't speak to that but the funyuns would probably average more assists than tony.

[rjv]

can't speak to that but the funyuns would probably average more assists than tony. flaming hot funyons would.

[gambit1990]

been wanting an la + tony trade since last summer :rolleyes

[Hoops Czar]

can't speak to that but the funyuns would probably average more assists than tony.

And a half eaten bag of funyuns would make more shots than Paddy.

[SAGirl]

Simple. He realizes it's in his best interests to do everything in his power to repair his image. He had to hear and read all the criticism aimed at him these past few days. Athletes aren't usually the most self aware so this was yet ANOTHER epiphany. He has received no sympathy from anyone.

His desperate housewife act will more than likely return to being faithful.
You made some good points. his trade value is so low, he may reconsider his stance. To get paid again he has to repair his image indeed. One just cannot guess correctly into the psyche of these athletes bc some have been so pampered for years ... we don't know.

[unleashbaynes]

I don't want him to be prime McHale, I want him to at least not suck, tbh. :lol

Saying shit like: "Do you want him to be prime McHale?", or "Did you expect him to drop 40 and 20?" when the dude barely got 11 and 5 on less than 40% shooting. :lol

That some dishonest arguing if I ever saw one. :lol

Tbh, he could have averaged that and it still wouldn't have mattered. You aren't gonna beat the Warriors starting Patty Mills and Kyle Anderson :lol

[sasaint]

No. a little bit of Madame Mim here. :lol
Just hearing Pop cut him slack at the end of season media interview and at the end of the series interview I knew that even as disappointed as Pop was, he must have been reasonable... I don't think he'd want to destroy the guys trade value or alienate him either way, but I think all the things said here in his defense Pop accepted as an excuse. Pop has cut slack to star players for missing shots, but the non-competing is where I expect they had a rift and I think things souring on Lamarcus end was the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't think Pop went into that meeting telling him he'd be traded...
But obviously yes, this was Madame Mim talking in my ear.:lol

I don't imagine Pop ripped him or suggested he was trade bait, but I bet Pop said he needed more from LMA - especially more energy/hustle and more toughness/willingness to take it to the hole - especially against Harden et al. And, yes, I suspect Pop mentioned Harden's name in that interview.

Look, I (Master Mim) believe that Pop has been coddling the guy since his arrival. We all know that is definitely NOT Pop's way. That alone puts a strain on that relationship, with Pop, completely contrary to his nature, walking on eggshells and LMA, no doubt, realizing that he isn't getting treated like the rest of the guys. And the "psychoanalysis" response in Pop's presser spoke subliminal volumes about their relationship and how it wore on Pop. For crying out loud, Pop screamed at the GOAT until the veins popped out on his forehead, and here he was treating this GOAT-mockery with kid gloves. He knew it. We knew it. Everybody knew it - even LMA if he has any brains. I think Pop was getting seriously tired of the masquerade. If the Spurs were going to really improve, Pop had to develop a more authentic relationship with LMA. So behind closed doors I think he finally was very direct with LMA about needing him to live up to his billing, take Pop's coaching and give him some nasty. And I believe that pushed LMA over the edge. (Call me Master Mim.)

[DAF86]

Tbh, he could have averaged that and it still wouldn't have mattered. You aren't gonna beat the Warriors starting Patty Mills and Kyle Anderson :lol

It would have mattered in the sense that nobody would be thinking about moving LA, tbh.

[tonight...you]

I don't imagine Pop ripped him or suggested he was trade bait, but I bet Pop said he needed more from LMA - especially more energy/hustle and more toughness/willingness to take it to the hole - especially against Harden et al. And, yes, I suspect Pop mentioned Harden's name in that interview.

Look, I (Master Mim) believe that Pop has been coddling the guy since his arrival. We all know that is definitely NOT Pop's way. That alone puts a strain on that relationship, with Pop, completely contrary to his nature, walking on eggshells and LMA, no doubt, realizing that he isn't getting treated like the rest of the guys. And the "psychoanalysis" response in Pop's presser spoke subliminal volumes about their relationship and how it wore on Pop. For crying out loud, Pop screamed at the GOAT until the veins popped out on his forehead, and here he was treating this GOAT-mockery with kid gloves. He knew it. We knew it. Everybody knew it - even LMA if he has any brains. I think Pop was getting seriously tired of the masquerade. If the Spurs were going to really improve, Pop had to develop a more authentic relationship with LMA. So behind closed doors I think he finally was very direct with LMA about needing him to live up to his billing, take Pop's coaching and give him some nasty. And I believe that pushed LMA over the edge. (Call me Master Mim.)
Makes sense to me...

[sasaint]

You made some good points. his trade value is so low, he may reconsider his stance. To get paid again he has to repair his image indeed. One just cannot guess correctly into the psyche of these athletes bc some have been so pampered for years ... we don't know.

I don't think crawling back on his knees begging forgiveness could be taken at face value. The damage was done the moment LMA went public. It can't be "taken back." No. The risk is too high. Especially for what LMA has shown so far. BUT, if he were to come back, I would demand that he return Bruce's RETIRED number and pick another - which he could wear like a big scarlet "A".

[Chinook]

If the Spurs could get contract-year performances from Danny and LMA, that would be huge. 2014-2015 Green was a top-40 player by almost every metric.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Make it happen RC

http://imageshack.com/a/img924/1746/3lipLK.jpg


:lol wouldn't Takis make more sense though?

[SAGirl]

I don't imagine Pop ripped him or suggested he was trade bait, but I bet Pop said he needed more from LMA - especially more energy/hustle and more toughness/willingness to take it to the hole - especially against Harden et al. And, yes, I suspect Pop mentioned Harden's name in that interview.

Look, I (Master Mim) believe that Pop has been coddling the guy since his arrival. We all know that is definitely NOT Pop's way. That alone puts a strain on that relationship, with Pop, completely contrary to his nature, walking on eggshells and LMA, no doubt, realizing that he isn't getting treated like the rest of the guys. And the "psychoanalysis" response in Pop's presser spoke subliminal volumes about their relationship and how it wore on Pop. For crying out loud, Pop screamed at the GOAT until the veins popped out on his forehead, and here he was treating this GOAT-mockery with kid gloves. He knew it. We knew it. Everybody knew it - even LMA if he has any brains. I think Pop was getting seriously tired of the masquerade. If the Spurs were going to really improve, Pop had to develop a more authentic relationship with LMA. So behind closed doors I think he finally was very direct with LMA about needing him to live up to his billing, take Pop's coaching and give him some nasty. And I believe that pushed LMA over the edge. (Call me Master Mim.)

That's a good take Master Mim. I do think he was being coddled... and he's known to have fragile psyche. Do you remember that Jackie McMullen said she had heard some things about him that would make him not want him in the Celtics in a trade? I didn't give her credit at the time, but Jackie's not some punk. I mostly didn't want to believe the trade rumors at the time, and believed the Celitcs wanted to depress his trade value indirectly.. but combining this with his Portland exit paints a bad picture. He was rumored to have cut off his Portland teammates and even refused to travel with the team bc he was sucking fiercely in that last playoffs series in Portland (was it against Memphis?)... he's very mentally fragile.

JSimms said famously: "the weak cannot play for Pop." succint. simple.

[sasaint]

That's a good take Master Mim. I do think he was being coddled... and he's known to have fragile psyche. Do you remember that Jackie McMullen said she had heard some things about him that would make him not want him in the Celtics in a trade? I didn't give her credit at the time, but Jackie's not some punk. I mostly didn't want to believe the trade rumors at the time, and believed the Celitcs wanted to depress his trade value indirectly.. but combining this with his Portland exit paints a bad picture. He was rumored to have cut off his Portland teammates and even refused to travel with the team bc he was sucking fiercely in that last playoffs series in Portland (was it against Memphis?)... he's very mentally fragile.

JSimms said famously: "the weak cannot play for Pop." succint. simple.

Well, my crystal ball is probably more cloudy than most.

I only vaguely remember the Celtics comments that Jackie made, and would never have if you hadn't reminded me. But it fits my narrative, so I'll buy! :toast

You gotta want JSimms back on the strength of that quote alone.

[SAGirl]

Tbh, he could have averaged that and it still wouldn't have mattered. You aren't gonna beat the Warriors starting Patty Mills and Kyle Anderson :lol

Kyle had a good series against them fwiw... better than Lamarcus.. and he only started the one game.. you could mention starting Green, Patty and JSimms...

and you are taking Lamarcus stance: "it's everyone's fault, not mine." "Nobody made me better, nobody got me shots..." WTF!?!

what if Mills and Danny came out and said: I didn't play well but it was Lamarcus' fault. He was supposed to get me open and get me shots and he didn't...

but you will never hear it from those two. never. That's not the Spurs way tbh.

If that is the mindset his camp is going to have he needs to GTFO.

[SAGirl]

Well, my crystal ball is probably more cloudy than most.

I only vaguely remember the Celtics comments that Jackie made, and would never have if you hadn't reminded me. But it fits my narrative, so I'll buy! :toast

You gotta want JSimms back on the strength of that quote alone.
J.Simms depends on his paycheck.

Anyways, back on subject. Here's Jackie:
http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/video-espns-jackie-macmullan-says-lamarcus-aldridge-may-not-finish-season-with-spurs


For instance, sources were telling me the other day that LaMarcus Aldridge may not even finish the year with the Spurs. That experiment hasn't quite worked out the way they hoped.
When asked if she would want Aldridge on the Celtics' roster she emphatically said no.


No! Not after what I heard the other day. I don't.
There's some stuff going on."


What is concerning is if there is friction between the team and LaMarcus. The Spurs are known for having minimal team-chemistry issues and if there are any, the team has zero issues at getting rid of distractions on the court and in the locker room. Ask former Spur Stephen Jackson.

[SAGirl]

Here's Lamarcus cutting off his fomer Portland teammates right in the middle of the playoffs:
http://nba.nbcsports.com/2015/04/26/lamarcus-aldridge-flew-back-to-portland-after-game-2-loss-while-rest-of-blazers-stayed-in-memphis/

[spursistan]

This loser in a nutshell...

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[gambit1990]

la would play much better with cp3 instead of parker.

fine with trading him though.

[rjv]

it's funny (in a not so funny way) how just two years ago ST members were checking the threads day to day just to see if LMA had signed and now ST members are checking the threads day to day to see if we have been able to get rid of him.

[spursistan]

878364807270985728

Trade his ass NOW...:lmao..

Dwert level of immaturity and childishness..

[spursistan]

878351098305630208

Expected..Spurs were low-balled AF last night..He is damaged goods that even dumb GMs were very leery to give anything of value for someone asking out of San Antonio of all places...

[sasaint]

878351098305630208

Expected..Spurs were low-balled AF last night..He is damaged goods that even dumb GMs were very leery to give anything of value for someone asking out of San Antonio of all places...

Actually when he gets humbled by getting traded for a bag of Funyuns, LMA may actually be the best teammate of his career and play hard.

[rjv]

if moved, LMA will get shipped as part of a trade to make something happen somewhere else, or as part of a dynamic in which a need for his services opens up as a result of free agency (specifically, in how a team will be looking to replace something they lost).

[Spurs9]

Honestly there are probably plenty of teams who would take them, what about trading him to the Lakers? I wouldn't mind Nance Jr/Randle for him.

[dabom]

What was the number of projected wins for the Spurs?
Porker and LMAO have been negative players. A bag of Funyuns gets us 70 wins easy.

[SAGirl]

878364807270985728

Trade his ass NOW...:lmao..

Dwert level of immaturity and childishness..

Really???
This dude deleted that?
OMG.
He gone.

[Big Empty]

Try to trade him for Tobias Harris from Detroit.

[cd98]

878364807270985728

Trade his ass NOW...:lmao..

Dwert level of immaturity and childishness..


Man I'd hate to see what he writes about Spurs in his diary.

[sasaint]

Porker and LMAO have been negative players. A bag of Funyuns gets us 70 wins easy.

:tu

[spursistan]

Really???
This dude deleted that?
OMG.
He gone.

He apparently DID. I can't believe the pettiness and childishness of this dude..And he was supposed to be a core piece of a Championship team? :lol They say character is destiny for a reason.

I'm officially in "get him off my team at all costs" camp. sasaint (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12242) has been ahead of the curve on this one: Lamaracus Aldridge is arguably the sneakiest cancer in the entire league..He is extremely adept at giving the pretension of being a team player, but it's really all about "me-first".

It boils down:: he wants his nice little PPG-- even on a shitty team-- so he can get another fat contract next summer..Spurs should grant him his wish..

[ECOV]

so when can they start trading again?

[SAGirl]

He apparently DID. I can't believe the pettiness and childishness of this dude..And he was supposed to be a core piece of a Championship team? :lol They say character is destiny for a reason.

I'm officially in "get him off my team at all costs" camp. sasaint (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12242) has been ahead of the curve on this one: Lamaracus Aldridge is arguably the sneakiest cancer in the entire league..He is extremely adept at giving the pretension of being a team player, but it's really all about "me-first".

It boils down:: he wants his nice little PPG-- even on shitty team-- so he can get another fat contract next summer..Spurs should grant him his wish..

If only he had made this known privately. But the playoffs do bring out the best and the worst in players and now we know Lamarcus Aldridge spectrum.

I want him gone too.. I am just really sad Spurs can't get value for him. He's getting to Demarcus Cousins levels who also had low value despite being a star... and he still fetched a pick and a young player... (damn!) Good of sacramento to trade him, he would have been less valuable as a one year rental and maybe don't even get that, and get Dwert like offers.
Spurs are stuck in a sucky situation.

Also, I think he's costing the team LDN. His arrival portended the decline in LDN shooting (ironically never threw LMA under the bus, ever)... I can't get a real read on that bc Spurs may be getting ready to pay JSimms and needed to get out of LDN contract anyways, but it's tough to tell. The way Danny has been packaged with Lamarcus, Danny seems like the sweetener for someone to take on Aldridge. Poor LDN... if he goes to a good team he will be a positive player... so I hope he's not part of some aldridge package and is sent somewhere good for him.

How can Chinook defend Aldridge when he's been the cause of the demise of LDN in the team?

[davidbowie]

878364807270985728

Trade his ass NOW...:lmao..

Dwert level of immaturity and childishness..

HAHAHAHAHAHA

HOW TF DOES THIS DUDE EXPECT TO SHOW UP TO PRACTICE OR A GAME NOW AND NOT FEEL LIKE A TOTAL DUMB ASS

a deal must be done. why do this?? i dont even want this guy anymore. get whatever u can for him

what a complete and total pansy :lmao

[look_at_g_shred]

A second round pick will do!

[tbdog]

Try to trade him for Tobias Harris from Detroit.

Hell no

[sasaint]

Try to trade him for Tobias Harris from Detroit.

Harris was a guy I really liked when he was with Orlando, but he has been a little underwhelming at Detroit - but who isn't? He is a little bit of a tweener.

[BatManu20]

LMA might be the most sensitive player in the league. So lame. He's gone. Only question is where.

[baseline bum]

878364807270985728

Trade his ass NOW...:lmao..

Dwert level of immaturity and childishness..

Holy fuck, it's true. :lmao

I check his twitter and he deleted all his tweets between June 13, 2015 and July 14, 2015. What a fucking emo faggot.

[baseline bum]

Should have known he was going to be a bitch when (1) he took Bowen's retired number and (2) he said during his press conference that he wasn't coming here to be David Robinson or Tim Duncan. Motherfucker came here to be Richard Jefferson or Steve Smith. :lol

[FkLA]

I heard he unfollowed the Spurs account too, tbh.

[sasaint]

so when can they start trading again?

July 6th.

[barbacoataco]

He just hasn't lived up to expectations in the playoffs his whole career. I lived in Portland a few years ago and saw him play many times. It's been the same story for years. He's a good volume scorer in low pressure regular season games, but he doesn't have a dependable go to shot in pressure situations, and he's just a choker in general.

[timtonymanu]

I hate this guy and it's gonna be hard to stomach having to root for him if he stays on the team.

[CGD]

July 6th.

Is that right, even for trades?

[tholdren]

I hate this guy and it's gonna be hard to stomach having to root for him if he stays on the team.

I hope he does stay and pop starts fathead

[sasaint]

Is that right, even for trades?

I believe so. July 1 the FA moratorium ends. July 6 FAs may sign agreements and trades may be made - I believe. But just google it and let me know if my understanding is wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

[TheGreatYacht]

People still believe Stephen a Smith and his "sources"? :lol

1. He wrongly called KD-to-LA 2 years ago, which led to them having beef because Durant called him out on his bullshit
2. He's always been critical of Aldridge. Why would LMA's camp leak shit like this to him?

He has no sources. This has been established.

[SAGirl]

Should have known he was going to be a bitch when (1) he took Bowen's retired number and (2) he said during his press conference that he wasn't coming here to be David Robinson or Tim Duncan. Motherfucker came here to be Richard Jefferson or Steve Smith. :lol

:lmao

[SAGirl]

People still believe Stephen a Smith and his "sources"? :lol

1. He wrongly called KD-to-LA 2 years ago, which led to them having beef because Durant called him out on his bullshit
2. He's always been critical of Aldridge. Why would LMA's camp leak shit like this to him?

He has no sources. This has been established.

Do you see him calling out Stephen A Smith on his bullshit?
All I see is the Spurs putting him up for trade and getting no takers and him unfollowing the team and deleting the tweets from when he changed teams and was welcomed to the Spurs 2 years ago.

[rastaspur]

Do you see him calling out Stephen A Smith on his bullshit?
All I see is the Spurs putting him up for trade and getting no takers and him unfollowing the team and deleting the tweets from when he changed teams and was welcomed to the Spurs 2 years ago.
Truth bomb.

His subsequent actions have confirmed what Stephen was alleging. If there was nothing to it then LMA doesn't go full blown emo trying to erase the spurs from his memory.

What a little bitch

[sasaint]

Do you see him calling out Stephen A Smith on his bullshit?
All I see is the Spurs putting him up for trade and getting no takers and him unfollowing the team and deleting the tweets from when he changed teams and was welcomed to the Spurs 2 years ago.

Yep. Screamin' Stephen got this scoop right, for once.

[sasaint]

Truth bomb.

His subsequent actions have confirmed what Stephen was alleging. If there was nothing to it then LMA doesn't go full blown emo trying to erase the spurs from his memory.

What a little bitch

Check.... Check

And

Check!

[Nathan89]

Should have known he was going to be a bitch when (1) he took Bowen's retired number and (2) he said during his press conference that he wasn't coming here to be David Robinson or Tim Duncan. Motherfucker came here to be Richard Jefferson or Steve Smith. :lol

Who the fuck asks for someones retired number? That's really is ridiculous.

[Nathan89]

878364807270985728

Trade his ass NOW...:lmao..

Dwert level of immaturity and childishness..

This faggot can't get traded soon enough. Just curious what we can get for him.

[Nathan89]

Not sure who was leaking that Spurs were trying to trade this fuck but the media railing on him really doesn't help tbh.

[Ice009]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

HOW TF DOES THIS DUDE EXPECT TO SHOW UP TO PRACTICE OR A GAME NOW AND NOT FEEL LIKE A TOTAL DUMB ASS

a deal must be done. why do this?? i dont even want this guy anymore. get whatever u can for him

what a complete and total pansy :lmao

lol, you guys are soft. I love this stuff. Me, personally, I'd bring him back and punish him psychologically until he cracks. This is fun stuff to me. If I was Pop, I'd be all up in his face and give him the Popovich treatment every day of practice and every game. He'll be wishing he never said anything. In post game interviews, I'd call him out after every poor game (by name). Edit : I'd probably just do it behind closed doors otherwise no other player would want to sign if I went all out on Aldridge. If the Spurs or any other team need someone to get in other players faces when they're being lazy or sucking, you can hire me.

I don't think the Spurs should be held hostage by this loser like so many other players have done to so many other teams. If they don't get a deal that is good for the team, bring him back and punish him on a daily basis.

[Ice009]

July 6th.

Can verbal deals on trades be made between now and July 1st?

[dbreiden83080]

I hate this guy and it's gonna be hard to stomach having to root for him if he stays on the team.

I agree. But the reality is he is a very good player. He has value. I would rather have him on the team next year and take our best crack at a title, then get next to nothing back for him in a trade.

[dbreiden83080]

878364807270985728

Trade his ass NOW...:lmao..

Dwert level of immaturity and childishness..

And all because Leonard is just so much better than he is. When all these players are now teaming up to play with fellow superstars, this clown is trying to run in the opposite direction, not because he is trying to win a title on his own. Because simply his stats are down. What a fucking loser.

[MaNu4Tres]

If Spurs whiff on FA's, trade his ass back to POR for Ezeli (if right), Harkless and their 1st next year.

[SnakeBoy]

878364807270985728

Trade his ass NOW...:lmao..

Dwert level of immaturity and childishness..

Just saw this reported on KENS.

I haven't complained at all about Aldridge and don't think he deserves being criticized for not beating GSW all by himself. I would have been fine with him staying on but damn if he is this much of a childish bitch then ship his ass out ASAP.