Spurs Select Jaron Blossomgame in the 2017 NBA Draft (59th Overall)

[BatManu20]

Height: 6'7
weight: 219 lbs.
Wingspan: 6'10
Standing reach: 8'8 1/2
Vertical: 36'
Almost 24 years old.

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[mexicanjunior]

Meh...James Gist starter kit...

[loveforthegame]

I like this pick.

[Play Boban]

WHAT A JOKE.

[Chinook]

Not what I wanted. But the Spurs got another wing.

[TheyCallMePro]

Literally was repeating his name for the last couple minutes trying to will the Spurs to draft him. Then it actually happened! LOVE this guy. So underrated, one of the most athletic players in the draft.

Bye Simmons! Enjoy your payday somewhere else. We good.

[99 Problems]

:lobt2:

[DAF86]

Why was he on the building? Where was he projected to be selected?

[RD2191]

:lobt2:

[TimDunkem]

Good value at 59...Doesn't make up for 29.

[Mr. Body]

Awesome, another really old dude.

[raybies]

seriously, if PATFO didn't think a big was important this draft looks like we keeping at least a couple of our bigs...

[BatManu20]

Why was he on the building? Where was he projected to be selected?

Early-mid 2nd I believe. Fell bc of a lack of a jumper and he's almost 24 years old.

[DAF86]

seriously, if PATFO didn't think a big was important this draft looks like we keeping at least a couple of our bigs...

Or maybe he realized that in today's NBA you don't need more than 4 bigmen in your roster.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

seriously, if PATFO didn't think a big was important this draft looks like we keeping at least a couple of our bigs...

Let the front office do their jobs lol

[Robz4000]

Better than Fathead Jr. at least. His athleticism and defensive versatility will be welcome.

[DAF86]

Early-mid 2nd I believe. Fell bc of a lack of a jumper and he's almost 24 years old.

Do you imagine if nobody had selected him? Poor guy.

[illusioNtEk]

Awesome!!! Iv been following this guy and he is a steal... I have no clue how he fell so late in the draft. Just wait and see he will be a solid role player.

[BatManu20]

Do you imagine if nobody had selected him? Poor guy.

Yea would've sucked hard.. I'm sure he was just relieved to get picked at all

[TheGreatYacht]

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Really thought he was a bright fella till I saw this

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[Mr. Body]

Meh...James Gist starter kit...

[sasaint]

I like this pick.


Literally was repeating his name for the last couple minutes trying to will the Spurs to draft him. Then it actually happened! LOVE this guy. So underrated, one of the most athletic players in the draft.

Bye Simmons! Enjoy your payday somewhere else. We good.

I like this pick, too - though not as much as TCMP! He had a great Junior year and fell off last season - maybe a turnover of teammates?

[sasaint]

seriously, if PATFO didn't think a big was important this draft looks like we keeping at least a couple of our bigs...

Maybe not keeping our guys, but definitely indicates a Plan B is in place.

[Keepin' it real]

Backup plan if they can't sign Paul Gheorghe.

[Chinook]

Dude's two-and-a-half weeks older than Kyle. Very interesting tape, and the team could do worst for a 15th man. But wow, he's old.

[DAF86]

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Really thought he was a bright fella till I saw this

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Don't know shit about twitter. How do you find those Spurs related tweets so fast? Does it have a search tool?

[rastaspur]

I am a unc fan and went to the Clemson unc game this year.

If chip can teach him how to shoot this might be a steal. He is a legit athlete and passed the eye test when seeing him live.

I'm okay with this pick over Oliver and burton. Burton and Oliver seem to be really low iq players.

This guy is a fluid player who seems to have a decent iq

[TheyCallMePro]

Awesome!!! Iv been following this guy and he is a steal... I have no clue how he fell so late in the draft. Just wait and see he will be a solid role player.

100% this. This guy is an absolute stud and a STEAL. I was watching every pick in the 2nd round praying he wouldn't be picked before it was our turn. When he wasn't and our turn finally came I was screaming "BLOSSOMGAME, PLEASE BLOSSOMGAME!" Then BOOM, we pick him. Good ole Spurs.

[dabom]

Good pick. :tu

[sasaint]

Don't know shit about twitter. How do you find those Spurs related tweets so fast? Does it have a search tool?

Man, I supported this pick until he asked who was better, Aldridge or Duncan. :wow

[ace3g]

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[sasaint]

Good pick. :tu

Sign him and get him with Chip and Kawhi ASAP!

[BatManu20]

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[TimDunkem]

Fathead replacement.

[Chinook]

In Blossom's defense, I think it was actually complimenting Duncan. That was when Tim was destroying the Clips, and he was like, "Is Tim still better than LMA? (Who had dominated Houston the previous year and looked like a top-three PF)"

[SURGE]

Really like him he looks solid better than our first round pick

[elemento]

Man, I supported this pick until he asked who was better, Aldridge or Duncan. :wow


Probably 39 y/o TD vs Prime Aldridge. I'd still take TD though

[Keepin' it real]

Anderson backup.

FIFY

[BatManu20]

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[hsxvvd]

When others zig, drafting youth and potential, Spurs zag drafting seniors. It used to be we drafted internationals, but I think (hope) we've found the new point of difference in the draft rankings that can find some steals.

[TimDunkem]

FIFY
Nah. Anderson is gone after next season.

[Chinook]

I just hope Hanga is on the SL team as well. Murray's gonna have weapons on the break with these two, and White will give him a high-usage player to play off, which is important for his development on a team with Kawhi and maybe another star.

[BatManu20]

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[Chinook]

I'm actually really liking him. Dude seems like a born Spur. Too bad he wasn't three years younger.

[raybies]

Hope we could get Burton and try him at the four.

Murray/White/Blossomgame/Burton/Milutinov or Motley. that'd be fun

Im starting to warm up to White. Have to see him in action first.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[Chinook]

Blossom will be 24 before next school year. He better have graduated. Hell, he should be working on that Ph. D.

[BatManu20]

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[BackHome]

It seems like these guys will be really good bench players for us which is not bad considering where they were picked. It looking more and more likely that Green and Simmons may be gone and they have to have some trade going on to bring in a big and get rid of LMA or Gasol.

[Mr. Body]

When others zig, drafting youth and potential, Spurs zag drafting seniors. It used to be we drafted internationals, but I think (hope) we've found the new point of difference in the draft rankings that can find some steals.

My thoughts, too. The draft is pumping year after year of unprepared long term prospects. These players aren't ready and won't be for a long time. College isn't preparing them for shit, at least the one-and-done guys. They're all gonna be nameless whoever they weres.

What's promising about a guy like Derrick White is that he had to scrap and fight to get where he is. He's learned how to make bad teammates better and how to be productive with defenses focused on him. All those skills are transferrable. Will they transfer? Maybe not. But dudes used to come out of college with those skills. Now you have to look at older players sometimes.

[sananspursfan21]

That can't really be his last name..

[Solid D]

http://hoopshype.com/2017/06/06/jaron-blossomgame-what-andre-iguodala-does-for-the-warriors-i-can-do-for-teams-next-year/

Excellent insight into Jaron's make-up. He has certainly gotten over himself, so he will make a hit with Pop.

[SilverSpur]

Hope his game blossoms in San Antonio.

[Emperor]

Kyle's last name should have been Blossomhead.

[Mr. Body]

http://hoopshype.com/2017/06/06/jaron-blossomgame-what-andre-iguodala-does-for-the-warriors-i-can-do-for-teams-next-year/

Excellent insight into Jaron's make-up. He has certainly gotten over himself, so he will make a hit with Pop.

Wow. Impressive. He knows more about current players than probably some GMs.

[BatManu20]

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[DAF86]

Man, I supported this pick until he asked who was better, Aldridge or Duncan. :wow

You think that's bad? Go check what the other pick had to say about the Spurs. :lol

[Vic Petro]

http://hoopshype.com/2017/06/06/jaron-blossomgame-what-andre-iguodala-does-for-the-warriors-i-can-do-for-teams-next-year/

Excellent insight into Jaron's make-up. He has certainly gotten over himself, so he will make a hit with Pop.

:toast Good read

[intlspurshk]

This pick makes much more sense than D White. And it looks like being 6'4 to 6'7 with longer than average wingspan are the criteria.

[DPG21920]

Maybe it's just projecting, but seems like with all the drama going on with LMA and losing Tim and possibly Manu/TP that SA was hyper focused on character this draft.

Like, the first things out of everyone's mouth when SA drafted their guys was "oh, great guys, great character" etc.

[BatManu20]

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[DAF86]

Maybe it's just projecting, but seems like with all the drama going on with LMA and losing Tim and possibly Manu/TP that SA was hyper focused on character this draft.

Like, the first things out of everyone's mouth when SA drafted their guys was "oh, great guys, great character" etc.

That Derrick White dude tweets like the ultimate troll. Did you see the things he said about the Spurs? I don't know how great your character can be when you are such a social media troll, tbh. :lol

[DPG21920]

That Derrick White dude tweets like the ultimate troll. Did you see the things he said about the Spurs? I don't know how great your character can be when you are such a social media troll, tbh. :lol

I mean, I'm not going to judge someone on that unless its really vile stuff. But RC knew his coach and by all accounts these guys are both really high character, over come obstacle guys.

[xellos88330]

Now this kid has me curious. Loving the tools he brings to the table. I wonder if it was just an off year from 3. If he can hit the 3 consistently, then this is a great pick. I for one think it is actually a good pick.

[8FOR!3]

Surprising value for the 59th pick. He's a guy I thought would have gone early to mid second round. And if he was one of the last couple of picks in the first round, I wouldn't have been shocked.

[Snaq O'Meal]

“A few years ago, I used to compare myself to Kawhi Leonard, but now he’s gotten so good that it’s hard to compare yourself to him,” Blossomgame said with a laugh. “I’ve always studied him since we’re similar in size and similar in stature. But what’s interesting about him was that, as a prospect coming out of college, the main question was, ‘Can he shoot?’ He played the four predominantly in college and struggled to shoot. I mean, he shot 20 percent from three one year and 29 percent the next year. I shot 20 percent in my freshman year, 28 percent in my sophomore year and then I had a jump to 45 percent my junior year. So I feel we have some similarities considering how versatile we are and the things we can bring to a team. He’s definitely a guy I’ve watched and compared myself to in recent years.”

Well Jaron, you can study Kawhi up close in practice everyday now.

[TimDunkem]

That Derrick White dude tweets like the ultimate troll. Did you see the things he said about the Spurs? I don't know how great your character can be when you are such a social media troll, tbh. :lolHow are you going to hold something this kid said years ago against him and make judgements about his character? I don't like the pick for basketball reason, but he seems like a decent kid.

[ceperez]

Sounds to me that this is the steal of the draft. Seems to have size, athleticism, work ethic and basketball IQ. What was wrong with him at 59th???

[BatManu20]

Surprising value for the 59th pick. He's a guy I thought would have gone early to mid second round. And if he was one of the last couple of picks in the first round, I wouldn't have been shocked.

Actually shocked he fell that far. I didn't even realize he was still on the board until we selected him. If he were 20 instead of almost 24, he goes late 1st-early 2nd imo. A lot of bad shooters went before him, and he's a better athlete and defender than all of them.

[DAF86]

I mean, I'm not going to judge someone on that unless its really vile stuff. But RC knew his coach and by all accounts these guys are both really high character, over come obstacle guys.

Just saying that a guy that wants to make it to the NBA but still is dumb enough to post thing like that about NBA teams can't really be all that in the character/IQ department, tbh.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Sounds to me that this is the steal of the draft. Seems to have size, athleticism, work ethic and basketball IQ. What was wrong with him at 59th???

He's "old."

[DAF86]

How are you going to hold something this kid said years ago against him and make judgements about his character? I don't like the pick for basketball reason, but he seems like a decent kid.

I don't give a fuck about the tweets, tbh. Just saying that those kind of things show some character traits. Obviously not the end of the World, or even something that is remotely important for that matter but just throwing it there to stir the pot a bit. :lol

[BatManu20]

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[ceperez]

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Looks like he already has the build of an NBA player. That's a good thing!

[cjw]

Man, I supported this pick until he asked who was better, Aldridge or Duncan. :wow

Remember this was Duncan in the last weeks of his career. And look at the date - it's after game 1 of the OKC series when LMA put up 40.

Everyone loves coming to a conclusion without considering context

[DAF86]

If the 45% he says he shot from 3 on his last year can translate to the NBA, I don't see why he can't be a rotation player. He looks to have all the tools a current NBA player needs to have.

[SnakeBoy]

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Nice article. Thanks for sharing. This kid sounds like a better prospect than the first round pick.

I like that he doesn't overrate himself

“A few years ago, I used to compare myself to Kawhi Leonard, but now he’s gotten so good that it’s hard to compare yourself to him,” Blossomgame said with a laugh.

[phxspurfan]

Better than the 29th pick at least.

[phxspurfan]

He Went to Jaron

[Atl Spur]

I can't wait for summer league. Quick question, why is everyone tripping over age when we all know the spurs don't really like to play young players. If you go back and look at previous drafts, the attrition rate is alarming with these young players. Give me a cat that is hungry and humble with that pressure to do well vs. entitled youth every time! Let's give it some time.

[SAGirl]

Spurs getting two older guys in the draft huh?

I think Pop is hoping for some guys who are not going to take 4 years to start to hit their prime. Guys closer to Kawhi in age...

[SAGirl]

Awesome, another really old dude.
I am thinking, close in age to Kawhi, not going to take 3_4 years to develop. Closer to their prime.

[kobyz]

Very undersized 4...

[Nathan89]

Spurs finding value in older players that other teams are overlooking.

[DrSteffo]

I hope he works hard and replaces Kyle Anderson but I understand Pop is in love with KA. I just wonder if he Spurs FO has lost it when it comes to judging players' work ethic. Please no more lazy Ryan Richards, James Gists or or Kyle Andersons. We need fighters like Manu or Tiago, even Tony.

[lefty20]

In Blossom's defense, I think it was actually complimenting Duncan. That was when Tim was destroying the Clips, and he was like, "Is Tim still better than LMA? (Who had dominated Houston the previous year and looked like a top-three PF)"

This is what I think as well. He was basically saying old one legged Timmy > or = to prime LMA. Smart kid, tbh.

[100%duncan]

Looks like a Kawhi backup tbh.

[dabom]

Looks like a Kawhi backup tbh.

Dont tell sagirl that. :lol

[100%duncan]

Dont tell sagirl that. :lol
:lol she actually wrote a great point on how the Spurs are drafting "older" guys who are closer to kawhi's age. Maybe FO's wanting to hit 2 birds in one stone, draft more mature players, trying to get a star FA and contend while rebuilding. Who knows tbh

[dabom]

:lol she actually wrote a great point on how the Spurs are drafting "older" guys who are closer to kawhi's age. Maybe FO's wanting to hit 2 birds in one stone, draft more mature players, trying to get a star FA and contend while rebuilding. Who knows tbh

Maybe. I don't have an opinion on that right now.

[r0drig0lac]

An athletic wing...great

[Mr. Body]

:lol she actually wrote a great point on how the Spurs are drafting "older" guys who are closer to kawhi's age. Maybe FO's wanting to hit 2 birds in one stone, draft more mature players, trying to get a star FA and contend while rebuilding. Who knows tbh

Kawhi's age has nothing to do with it.

But this is the latest iteration of trying to find value. Used to be international players, now that's tapped out. Now the entire league is infatuated with freshmen who will almost all take years to develop because the NCAA top coaches don't do shit anymore. Go for the older players who have scraped and fought and learned how to improve their teammates on shitty teams. That's where the value may be.

[sasaint]

You think that's bad? Go check what the other pick had to say about the Spurs. :lol

Where? What did he say?

[sasaint]

Kawhi's age has nothing to do with it.

But this is the latest iteration of trying to find value. Used to be international players, now that's tapped out. Now the entire league is infatuated with freshmen who will almost all take years to develop because the NCAA top coaches don't do shit anymore. Go for the older players who have scraped and fought and learned how to improve their teammates on shitty teams. That's where the value may be.

I think you are righ. As an Old Schooler, I like it, too. Most of ST thinks a 21-year old is getting long in the tooth, and they fret over drafting such old guys. Drafting a more ready-to-play guy seems like a pretty good idea to me, rather than waiting for some college freshman to maybe come around in a few years when his rookie deal is about to expire.

[sasaint]

Remember this was Duncan in the last weeks of his career. And look at the date - it's after game 1 of the OKC series when LMA put up 40.

Everyone loves coming to a conclusion without considering context

No, I didn't look at the date. Thanks for drawing it to my attention. I am properly chastened.

[Chinook]

Remember this was Duncan in the last weeks of his career. And look at the date - it's after game 1 of the OKC series when LMA put up 40.

Everyone loves coming to a conclusion without considering context

You're a year off. The tweet was from 2015, otherwise known as Tim's last real show of dominance. Pretty sure he was hyping OMRW up, because the dude was seriously playing like a top big in that series.

[cjw]

No, I didn't look at the date. Thanks for drawing it to my attention. I am properly chastened.

You're a year off. The tweet was from 2015, otherwise known as Tim's last real show of dominance. Pretty sure he was hyping OMRW up, because the dude was seriously playing like a top big in that series.

Now I stand corrected and have egg on my face (and sorry sasaint). I thought that might be the case with him praising Duncan's last stand.

Those earlier tweets also came from a kid who was still 19-20.

[sasaint]

Now I stand corrected and have egg on my face (and sorry sasaint). I thought that might be the case with him praising Duncan's last stand.

Those earlier tweets also came from a kid who was still 19-20.

:toast

[LittleCriminal]

Dude kinda reminds me of leonard coming into the nba..
Hopefully he is just as good.

[BatManu20]

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[100%duncan]

Kawhi's age has nothing to do with it.

But this is the latest iteration of trying to find value. Used to be international players, now that's tapped out. Now the entire league is infatuated with freshmen who will almost all take years to develop because the NCAA top coaches don't do shit anymore. Go for the older players who have scraped and fought and learned how to improve their teammates on shitty teams. That's where the value may be.

I wouldn't say nothing to do with it especially since the main concern now is not wasting Kawhi's prime years/ making him stay in the future.

[TrainOfThought5]

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Really thought he was a bright fella till I saw this

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Im sure he meant in the year of 2015. Which is almost fair.

[wildbill2u]

This pick makes much more sense than D White. And it looks like being 6'4 to 6'7 with longer than average wingspan are the criteria.

Pop is about to spring a totally new concept on the league---going "Middling" with all the players between 6'5" and 6'10"

[ace3g]

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[Snaq O'Meal]

Pop is about to spring a totally new concept on the league---going "Middling" with all the players between 6'5" and 6'10"

That concept has been in existence since the 96-98 Bulls, which is then copied by the Warriors.

But Poop still has a fetish for smaller, defensively-challenged types like Parker, Mills, Forbes, Laprovittola and Arcidiacono.

[BatManu20]

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[SPURt]

Pop is about to spring a totally new concept on the league---going "Middling" with all the players between 6'5" and 6'10"
I prefer to think he's going WNBA with the height variables six inches taller.

[hooperflash]

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He's got a fan in me already by liking my congratulatory draft tweet. :flag:

[MaNu4Tres]

Really like his versatility, athleticism and game. Versatile defender, can defend 4 positions well. If Chip can get a hold of him, he'll be a staple in the rotation by the 18/19 season.

[illusioNtEk]

Really like his versatility, athleticism and game. Versatile defender, can defend 4 positions well. If Chip can get a hold of him, he'll be a staple in the rotation by the 18/19 season.

He will be ready faster then that... promise

[kaji157]

Man, I supported this pick until he asked who was better, Aldridge or Duncan. :wow

+1

[-21-]

:lol she actually wrote a great point on how the Spurs are drafting "older" guys who are closer to kawhi's age. Maybe FO's wanting to hit 2 birds in one stone, draft more mature players, trying to get a star FA and contend while rebuilding. Who knows tbh

Yep, SAGirl makes a good point. Also, the uncertainty of Manu/Green/Mills/Simmons' future means the team could use more mature guys who can step in right now instead of developing younger, raw players.

[ceperez]

Really like his versatility, athleticism and game. Versatile defender, can defend 4 positions well. If Chip can get a hold of him, he'll be a staple in the rotation by the 18/19 season.

Leonard backup that can give the same intensity on defense. Why not?

[ace3g]

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https://twitter.com/VNdsgn/status/878643402610536448

[Dverde]

Either be Awesomgame or Blossomlame

[Spurs9]

Seems like a really good pickup.

[bic50]

Like the pick but knowing pop he probably won't play much at all

[8FOR!3]

Might be an upgrade over Jonathan Simmons? Not trying to disrespect Simmons but I've heard from a few albeit bias Clemson fans that they think Blossomgame might be a little bit better.

[BatManu20]

Might be an upgrade over Jonathan Simmons? Not trying to disrespect Simmons but I've heard from a few albeit bias Clemson fans that they think Blossomgame might be a little bit better.

Needs to be locked in the gym with Chip all summer. If he can improve his 3-Pt stroke, he could be a major steal. He was one of the best athletes in the draft and is already a really good defender. Good size and length for the position. More of a transition offensive player right now that likes to play above the rim, but if he can become a knockdown shooter from the corners ala Bowen (which is all he'll likely be asked to do), he could a be solid rotational player for us in a couple years.

[TimDunkem]

^Sounds like an Iggy-type player which he did claim he could be.

I sure hope so.

[SpurPadre]

I just hope we won't be calling him Jaron HASNOGAME in a few months, tbh. Someone also has to remind him not to gloat after a dunk or he's fucked.

[raybies]

Pretty good depth in this draft to get a player like him so late. I mean he's not a tweener or anything like that. He's got legit size and can play d and is athletic. Other years we got Deshaun Thomas, Denmon, for example

[MaNu4Tres]

Hot take cannon: This guy will be a better player than Derrick White.

[Kurik]

Hot take cannon: This guy will be a better player than Derrick White.

Sorry they didn't take Bell, don't take it out on White.

[coachmac87]

Hot take cannon: This guy will be a better player than Derrick White.

Blossomgame is just a smaller version of Bell???

[ceperez]

Needs to be locked in the gym with Chip all summer. If he can prove his 3-Pt stroke, he could be a major steal. He was one of the best athletes in the draft and is already a really good defender. More of a transition offensive player to likes to play above the rim obviously, but if he can become a knockdown shooter from the corners ala Bowen, he could a be solid rotational player for us in a couple years.

He only needs to have the one offensive skill set that Danny Green provides... that is, shoot the 3 when assisted. Don't ever dribble the ball or attempt to make a creative assist.

[MaNu4Tres]

Sorry they didn't take Bell, don't take it out on White.

Im not. Grow up.

[MaNu4Tres]

Blossomgame is just a smaller version of Bell???

Um no.

[DAF86]

Pop is about to spring a totally new concept on the league---going "Middling" with all the players between 6'5" and 6'10"

It is not really a new concept, tbh. It has been trending that way for quite some time now.

[palangi]

Blossomgame is just a smaller version of Bell???

They are actually pretty close in size

[Seventyniner]

Dude kinda reminds me of leonard coming into the nba..
Hopefully he is just as good.

Um, if this guy becomes as good as Kawhi he will be the best draft value in league history.

[SpurPadre]

Um, if this guy becomes as good as Kawhi he will be the best draft value in league history.

That title currently belongs to Manu Ginobili.

[dbestpro]

Hot take cannon: This guy will be a better player than Derrick White.
This guy will get cut.

[TimDunkem]

This guy will get cut.
Do you want him to or something? Honestly he looks like the best 2nd rounder they've drafted in quite some time.

[TimDunkem]

Not saying that he'll make it, but he has all the tools you need to be an impact player in the NBA.

[John B]

Spurs got away with the steal of the draft - again. Both guys are solid, very good basketball IQ. I don't doubt both will be seeing some minutes. White shows great composure on PNR, big for a guard and can defend. Jaron is athletic and has Alpha attitude comparing himself to Iggy. I like that. Great job again RC! :bobo

[MaNu4Tres]

This guy will get cut.

17 roster spots laughs at you

[TimDunkem]

17 roster spots laughs at you
:lol No shit huh.

[LittleCriminal]

Um, if this guy becomes as good as Kawhi he will be the best draft value in league history.

Yeah i know its a long shot..
That only time will tell.

[SAGirl]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDGPyzdWAAQWX8q.jpg:large

https://twitter.com/VNdsgn/status/878643402610536448
Patty's old number ..:wow

[hooperflash]

Patty's old number ..:wow
The dude who edited it was using random jersey numbers.

I believe he even used Marcus Smart's jersey number for a few Boston picks

[tholdren]

Danny green and or kyle anderson replacement tbh

[LittleCriminal]

Spurs got away with the steal of the draft - again. Both guys are solid, very good basketball IQ. I don't doubt both will be seeing some minutes. White shows great composure on PNR, big for a guard and can defend. Jaron is athletic and has Alpha attitude comparing himself to Iggy. I like that. Great job again RC! :bobo

I agree with you 99%.. But I bet Blossomgame sees some playing time once Green disappears either via trade or his shitty play during the season.

Hopefully Pop will slide Kawhi to the 2 spot and put Blossomgame at the 3.

[Biggems]

I know nothing of this guy other than what I have read in this thread.

I wanted to possibly come out of the draft with 4 players...1-2 bigs and 2 wings. I really wanted the big Latvian, either Hartenstein or Bell, Hart, and White or White III. I was ok with moving Aldridge, and even Danny if need be.

So, while this guy was not my radar, if he is the athletic player you huys claim, I think with some coaching up by Pop, Chip, and the rest, he will turn into a decent role player for the next few years, especially on D.

[tholdren]

I agree with you 99%.. But I bet Blossomgame sees some playing time once Green disappears either via trade or his shitty play during the season.

Hopefully Pop will slide Kawhi to the 2 spot and put Blossomgame at the 3.

This year there wont be spots

[TimDunkem]

^Someone doesn't know about 17 roster spots yet.

[LittleCriminal]

This year there wont be spots

Id have a start/rotation that consists of
Gasol/??
Aldridge/ lee
Bertans/Green/Blossomgame
Klaw/simmons/manu
Murry/Tp

White will be in the D-League.

Of course this will change when Pg13/Cp3 signs and Aldridge/Green are traded. Or when Blossomgame outplays Green.. Lol

[SAGirl]

Id have a start/rotation that consists of
Gasol/??
Aldridge/ lee
Bertans/Green/Blossomgame
Klaw/simmons/manu
Murry/Tp

White will be in the D-League.

Of course this will change when Pg13/Cp3 signs and Aldridge/Green are traded. Or when Blossomgame outplays Green.. Lol
its pointless to make a list like that. you have guys that are going to be traded there and you don't know who is coming back for them.

[Em-City]

Could this guy be a poor man's Wilson Chandler with less ability to create his own shot?

[Dverde]

I think White has to be on the roster since he was a first round pick. He believe he cam refuse to go to the dleague too. I doubt he would.

[LittleCriminal]

its pointless to make a list like that. you have guys that are going to be traded there and you don't know who is coming back for them.

I dont think its pointless when its the current roster.
Did you read this part?
"Of course this will change when Pg13/Cp3 signs and Aldridge/Green are traded. Or when Blossomgame outplays Green.. Lol"

[SAGirl]

I dont think its pointless when its the current roster.
Did you read this part?
"Of course this will change when Pg13/Cp3 signs and Aldridge/Green are traded. Or when Blossomgame outplays Green.. Lol"
you still have guys there that won't be in the team and don't know what's coming back... we can go in a circle here. it's pointless...

[John B]

I agree with you 99%.. But I bet Blossomgame sees some playing time once Green disappears either via trade or his shitty play during the season.

Hopefully Pop will slide Kawhi to the 2 spot and put Blossomgame at the 3.

I think Kawhi stays at 3 because 4 will be Griffin. CP3 and Griffin opted out :lobt2:

[LittleCriminal]

you still have guys there that won't be in the team and don't know what's coming back... we can go in a circle here. it's pointless...

I understand ur point.
But trying to debate on a roster WE BOTH AGREE will not look the same in the regular season is dumb.
My point of the roster was more elated to the idea of moving klaw to the 2 spot and giving bertans/Blossomgame the 3..
If PG13 goes elsewhere.

[LittleCriminal]

I think Kawhi stays at 3 because 4 will be Griffin. CP3 and Griffin opted out :lobt2:

Would be cool right!!

[SAGirl]

I understand ur point.
But trying to debate on a roster WE BOTH AGREE will not look the same in the regular season is dumb.
My point of the roster was more elated to the idea of moving klaw to the 2 spot and giving bertans/Blossomgame the 3..
If PG13 goes elsewhere.
ok.
we will just have to see what they do. I don't think Bertans can be a 3, much less a starting 3... and Blossom game is a 24/25 year old rook with a raw offensive game that doesn't include shooting or dribbling... more of a lob catcher in a SF frame. I like him, but frankly no way is he going to be starting. He will get the same rook treatment every other Spur rook has gotten... I think someone else starts at the SG spot.

[ace3g]

San Antonio Spurs: 5 reasons Jaron Blossomgame was a good pick
https://hoopshabit.com/2017/06/27/san-antonio-spurs-5-reasons-jaron-blossomgame-good-pick/

[tonight...you]

San Antonio Spurs: 5 reasons Jaron Blossomgame was a good pick


https://hoopshabit.com/2017/06/27/san-antonio-spurs-5-reasons-jaron-blossomgame-good-pick/
Blossomgame could probably shut down LMA right this very second on the basketball court.
And that's not a compliment to anybody.

[GSH]

I would be surprised if Blossomgame isn't one of the Spurs' two-way contract guys. He'll get good minutes in Austin, and get a few stints here to earn some decent money. He exceeded expectations in the workouts, and got a lot of positive comments. I was surprised that he fell all the way to 59, but he's exactly the kind of player the Spurs look for.

That being said, he's worked his ass off at every level. And I think he's going to look a lot better than many of the boys in SL. If the offseason isn't kind, I could see him getting that 15th roster spot, just because of his defense. He'd still spend time in Austin, but he'd make better money. It's obvious he has some work to do, but the one thing I don't doubt is that he's going to keep working his ass off. Don't underestimate that.

The young guys coming into the Spurs' system should have an incredible role model in Kawhi's work ethic. And the Spurs FO always look for character guys who will buy into that kind of thing. Blossomgame, I think, has the ability to over-achieve here. That 59 slot doesn't have a lot of expectations - I don't think the Spurs could have done much better there.

[TimDunkem]

I agree. Blossomgame was a great pick. Surprised he dropped so far.

[TheDoctor]

Blossomgame could probably shut down LMA right this very second on the basketball court.
And that's not a compliment to anybody.

My nigga Tonight dropping Nukes like there's no tomorrow tbh

[Spur|n|Austin]

This guy will get cut.

:lol ok - any reasoning why you believe that?

[Chinook]

I initially thought the team's second-rounder would be a two-way guy. But now I don't know. I think he gets a shot to make the team in camp, and I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the team. As I've said before, I think two-ways should be reserved for guys cut in camp. But regardless, I don't know if the team wants to limit itself to just having him for 45 days. If they trade Green, I think there's almost no chance he's not one of the 15. White may have defensive upside, but Blossomgame is more ready on that end right now.

[MaNu4Tres]

I initially thought the team's second-rounder would be a two-way guy. But now I don't know. I think he gets a shot to make the team in camp, and I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the team. As I've said before, I think two-ways should be reserved for guys cut in camp. But regardless, I don't know if the team wants to limit itself to just having him for 45 days. If they trade Green, I think there's almost no chance he's not one of the 15. White may have defensive upside, but Blossomgame is more ready on that end right now.

There's still so many dominoes to fall, but I agree. I think Blossomgame has a great shot at the 15 man roster. However, I don't see the defensive upside with White. I think White will be able to defend back up PG ball handler/creators decently or PG/smaller SGs that are off ball/spot up shooters. Not a lot of versatility on that end with Mr. White.

[rastaspur]

I initially thought the team's second-rounder would be a two-way guy. But now I don't know. I think he gets a shot to make the team in camp, and I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the team. As I've said before, I think two-ways should be reserved for guys cut in camp. But regardless, I don't know if the team wants to limit itself to just having him for 45 days. If they trade Green, I think there's almost no chance he's not one of the 15. White may have defensive upside, but Blossomgame is more ready on that end right now.

45 day cap is for? Can only be with the big club for 45 days?

[tholdren]

I would be surprised if Blossomgame isn't one of the Spurs' two-way contract guys. He'll get good minutes in Austin, and get a few stints here to earn some decent money. He exceeded expectations in the workouts, and got a lot of positive comments. I was surprised that he fell all the way to 59, but he's exactly the kind of player the Spurs look for.

That being said, he's worked his ass off at every level. And I think he's going to look a lot better than many of the boys in SL. If the offseason isn't kind, I could see him getting that 15th roster spot, just because of his defense. He'd still spend time in Austin, but he'd make better money. It's obvious he has some work to do, but the one thing I don't doubt is that he's going to keep working his ass off. Don't underestimate that.

The young guys coming into the Spurs' system should have an incredible role model in Kawhi's work ethic. And the Spurs FO always look for character guys who will buy into that kind of thing. Blossomgame, I think, has the ability to over-achieve here. That 59 slot doesn't have a lot of expectations - I don't think the Spurs could have done much better there.

Anyone can play in the nba tbh. Its just about hard work and an opportunity.

[rastaspur]

Anyone can play in the nba tbh. Its just about hard work and an opportunity.

Some limitations just can't be overcome. You can't paint it like that with such a broad brush. Anyone is just too broad.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Some limitations just can't be overcome. You can't paint it like that with such a broad brush. Anyone is just too broad.

Zaza is proof that you don't need any talent to play in the NBA.

[rastaspur]

Zaza is proof that you don't need any talent to play in the NBA.

:lol

[GSH]

Some limitations just can't be overcome. You can't paint it like that with such a broad brush. Anyone is just too broad.


LOL. I sense another meaningless argument in the making.

As a non-lottery level rookie, Blossomgame has just about everything but a shooting stroke. He's reasonably athletic, reasonably quick, willing to play defense, and seems to have a good head on his shoulders. The SL is going to be full of wide-eyed guys thinking they can make it in the NBA. The best of those will wind up as wide-eyed guys in the D-League, thinking they can make the big time. So, no, not everybody can make it in the NBA. And not everybody can learn how to shoot. But if he can improve that one aspect of his game, I don't see any reason why he can't make the roster.

[GSH]

Zaza is proof that you don't need any talent to play in the NBA.


LOL.

But wasn't he almost al All-Star? The fans know best. :lol

[objective]

Don't second rounders have to be offered the minimum tender, usually unguaranteed of course?

Now whenever second rounders try to force their hands it doesn't matter because the tender is revoked or they're cut immediately and without any amount guaranteed they're just free agents.

So unless the 2-way was agreed upon as a condition of being drafted, it probably is better for Blossomgame to take his chance on a second round salary and risk getting cut, if he thinks that he can still get a 2-way.

[rastaspur]

LOL. I sense another meaningless argument in the making.

As a non-lottery level rookie, Blossomgame has just about everything but a shooting stroke. He's reasonably athletic, reasonably quick, willing to play defense, and seems to have a good head on his shoulders. The SL is going to be full of wide-eyed guys thinking they can make it in the NBA. The best of those will wind up as wide-eyed guys in the D-League, thinking they can make the big time. So, no, not everybody can make it in the NBA. And not everybody can learn how to shoot. But if he can improve that one aspect of his game, I don't see any reason why he can't make the roster.

I agree with you totally. You are referencing any prospect with a minimum requisite level of ability. Hard work can be the difference and often times is.

But for a 5'4 white guy who plays dungeons and dragons and has no athletic ability whatsoever, then he has no chance.

Anybody has to have some level of ability associated with it. Hard work can't turn every turd into a diamond. Just too broad.

[GSH]

Don't second rounders have to be offered the minimum tender, usually unguaranteed of course?

Now whenever second rounders try to force their hands it doesn't matter because the tender is revoked or they're cut immediately and without any amount guaranteed they're just free agents.

So unless the 2-way was agreed upon as a condition of being drafted, it probably is better for Blossomgame to take his chance on a second round salary and risk getting cut, if he thinks that he can still get a 2-way.


Not sure if I understand your point, so I don't want to put words in your mouth. But what it sounds like you're saying - I don't think a 59 pick has a whole lot of leverage. He'll be gunning for a spot on the regular roster. But I'm pretty sure he'll take a two-way deal, if that's where the Spurs think his current development is. Being "older", I'm sure he doesn't want to spend a lot of time in the D-League. But if you're saying that he might play a little hardball with the Spurs, thinking he could get a 2-way anywhere? Mmmm... I really can't see how that's wise for a guy who almost went undrafted.

[Snaq O'Meal]

LOL.

But wasn't he almost al All-Star? The fans know best. :lol

Never underestimate the power of retards with keyboards. ;)

[rastaspur]

Not sure if I understand your point, so I don't want to put words in your mouth. But what it sounds like you're saying - I don't think a 59 pick has a whole lot of leverage. He'll be gunning for a spot on the regular roster. But I'm pretty sure he'll take a two-way deal, if that's where the Spurs think his current development is. Being "older", I'm sure he doesn't want to spend a lot of time in the D-League. But if you're saying that he might play a little hardball with the Spurs, thinking he could get a 2-way anywhere? Mmmm... I really can't see how that's wise for a guy who almost went undrafted.

Spot on. Blossom game has no bargaining power or leverage at this point. He is just along for the ride and loving every minute of it at this point.

[Ice009]

What's this 45 day thing?

[rastaspur]

What's this 45 day thing?

Just looked it up.

They are capped at 45 days with the nba club. Once that threshold is reached then the team has to either sign to a nba contract for the rest of the season or waive the player

[TimDunkem]

San Antonio Spurs: 5 reasons Jaron Blossomgame was a good pick


https://hoopshabit.com/2017/06/27/san-antonio-spurs-5-reasons-jaron-blossomgame-good-pick/
Basically he has good size, he's athletic, can finish at the rim at a high rate, and crashes the offensive boards.

There's a lot to like about this kid. Definitely more excited to see how he fares with the team than White, tbqh.

[GSH]

Basically he has good size, he's athletic, can finish at the rim at a high rate, and crashes the offensive boards.

There's a lot to like about this kid. Definitely more excited to see how he fares with the team than White, tbqh.


There's another thread for discussion about White, but I'll say this: I remember the reaction here when the Spurs drafted some never-heard-of guy from IUPUI. I remember it like yesterday, partly because I was one of the ones pulling my hair out. :lol

I'm not sweating either of these draft picks. They don't all work out, but I don't have any doubt that they were good picks. I wish they could have come up with another pick or two in this draft - especially one of those cash-only deals for an early to mid second rounder. But I expect we'll see why they took a shot on White. Murray looked like a total miss during last year's SL, and look at him now.

[TimDunkem]

To me, it looks like Blossomgame has more room to grow even if he's not the better player right now. I'm hoping White proves all us skeptics wrong, of course.

[ceperez]

There's another thread for discussion about White, but I'll say this: I remember the reaction here when the Spurs drafted some never-heard-of guy from IUPUI. I remember it like yesterday, partly because I was one of the ones pulling my hair out. :lol

I'm not sweating either of these draft picks. They don't all work out, but I don't have any doubt that they were good picks. I wish they could have come up with another pick or two in this draft - especially one of those cash-only deals for an early to mid second rounder. But I expect we'll see why they took a shot on White. Murray looked like a total miss during last year's SL, and look at him now.

What George Hill had going with him (6'9" wingspan) was his length and above average athleticism. Derrick White is a different kind of player, he is at least 2 inches taller than Hill and has better handles and better shooting. I think Spurs may have lucked out again in that they got a ball handler with decent size that can also shoot. Murray is close to George Hill in what he brings to the table, he's got length but like Hill isn't a sharpshooter.

This is a thread though for Blossomgame. He has got an NBA body and has the physical tools to do well in this league. If a limited player like Danny Green can thrive within the Spurs system, then Blossomgame should be able to be a decent 3 and D player. Blossomgame is bigger than Green, however Green has an uncanny ability on defense that is very hard to replicate.

[ace3g]

880187551562121217

[rastaspur]

880187551562121217

Seems like a sharp kid with a good positive attitude. That's a good thing.

[ceperez]

Seems like a sharp kid with a good positive attitude. That's a good thing.

What stands out for me the first time I heard him talk was that he speaks extremely well. I guess that's what 4 years of college does to you?

Usually 59th picks don't hang around, but I think this kid has all the qualities to make it into the team.

[BillMc]

880187551562121217

Like Blossomgame seems like a good guy

[CGD]

Why did he go so low? Is it his age? Seems like on talent alone he should have gone higher in 2nd round.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Why did he go so low? Is it his age? Seems like on talent alone he should have gone higher in 2nd round.

Age, inconsistent 3-point shot, and other limitations to his offensive game.

[NameLess Scrub]

But.. can his game blossom? :downspin:





What stands out for me the first time I heard him talk was that he speaks extremely well. I guess that's what 4 years of college does to you?

Usually 59th picks don't hang around, but I think this kid has all the qualities to make it into the team.

Probably yes.


Age, inconsistent 3-point shot, and other limitations to his offensive game.

I wonder if it's worth it to pass on talent because of age. I mean, the Kobes, KGs and Lebrons don't come around that often. Many high draft picks come as projects with question marks. Recently, many good players get away from their original teams to win or get paid...

[ceperez]

But.. can his game blossom? :downspin:






Probably yes.



I wonder if it's worth it to pass on talent because of age. I mean, the Kobes, KGs and Lebrons don't come around that often. Many high draft picks come as projects with question marks. Recently, many good players get away from their original teams to win or get paid...

This year's rookie of the year, Malcolm Brogdon is 24 years old.

[Snaq O'Meal]

This year's rookie of the year, Malcolm Brogdon is 24 years old.

Brogdon showed remarkable year-on-year improvements in college that was stupidly overlooked by most GMs.

[Ocotillo]

Funny to hear him refer to Dejounte and Bryn as "two fine young men" but then, he is older than they are.

[Chinook]

Funny to hear him refer to Dejounte and Bryn as "two fine young men" but then, he is older than they are.

Bryn is older than Jaron. Blossomgame is 23, but people are calling him 24 because he's going to turn that before the season begins. Bryn turns 24 next month. He is older than Murray, White and Kyle, though.

[cutewizard]

Anything on Bertans development?

[look_at_g_shred]

Bryn is older than Jaron. Blossomgame is 23, but people are calling him 24 because he's going to turn that before the season begins. Bryn turns 24 next month. He is older than Murray, White and Kyle, though.
I keep forgetting Kyle is so young. Feel like he's been here forever

[Snaq O'Meal]

I wonder if it's worth it to pass on talent because of age. I mean, the Kobes, KGs and Lebrons don't come around that often. Many high draft picks come as projects with question marks. Recently, many good players get away from their original teams to win or get paid...

It's better to have an older rookie who can contribute immediately on a cheap rookie contract than to have a younger project whose useful years commence with a more expensive contract.

By the way, a certain GOAT PF did stay all 4 years in college.

[Big Empty]

Ginobili came over in 2003 when he was around 25 already. 24 is nothing.

[rjv]

It's better to have an older rookie who can contribute immediately on a cheap rookie contract than to have a younger project whose useful years commence with a more expensive contract.

By the way, a certain GOAT PF did stay all 4 years in college. that is a good way of looking at it.

[LittleCriminal]

Man i hope this dude pans out.. Would love to see him play alongside Leonard.. Either at the 3 or the 2 spot..

[NameLess Scrub]

I keep forgetting Kyle is so young. Feel like he's been here forever

Maybe because of the way he moves on the court.

[NameLess Scrub]

It's better to have an older rookie who can contribute immediately on a cheap rookie contract than to have a younger project whose useful years commence with a more expensive contract.

By the way, a certain GOAT PF did stay all 4 years in college.

I agree

[Mnky]

Why did he go so low? Is it his age? Seems like on talent alone he should have gone higher in 2nd round.

Age is seen as a negative for many bad GMs. His shot i as very inconsistent anf streaky. When he's feeling it, you'd think he was a first rounder, but he doesn't feel it often and those misses barely hit the run at times. He also has a tendency to drift in games mentally. Shown signs to lose focus and inconsistent on defense. He can play great defense, then on the next play open up wrong and let his man walk to the rim.

Luckily for us, those are all coachable attributes. He definitely has room to improve, but it will take quite a bit of work to get there.

[Mnky]

Man i hope this dude pans out.. Would love to see him play alongside Leonard.. Either at the 3 or the 2 spot..

Small ball pf/c is also a possibility . He has the strength and athleticism to do it. He has said in interviews he is willing as well. Seems like thw right attitude to make the league.

[TimDunkem]

Small ball pf/c is also a possibility . He has the strength and athleticism to do it. He has said in interviews he is willing as well. Seems like thw right attitude to make the league.The Iggy comparison he gave himself is looking accurate (although of course he may not even be close to Iggy production-wise at the moment).

[buttsR4rebounding]

Anything on Bertans development?

I heard he started shaving.

[SAGirl]

I keep forgetting Kyle is so young. Feel like he's been here forever

heh.. guys think his career is done frankly. lol I laugh at their ignorance.

[ace3g]

886364480350941184

[Robz4000]

Been saying it since draft night, but I really like this pick a lot. Think he has a bright future in the NBA. Not as a star but a solid 3&D player like LDN.

[ceperez]

Been saying it since draft night, but I really like this pick a lot. Think he has a bright future in the NBA. Not as a star but a solid 3&D player like LDN.

How did he do in the elimination game against portland? Apparently Spurs got outrebounded big time.

[Robz4000]

How did he do in the elimination game against portland? Apparently Spurs got outrebounded big time.

Rebounded better than anyone on the team apparently, and that was against the best rebounder in the draft in Swanigan.

[BatManu20]

He was our 3rd leading rebounder behind Jefferson and Whittingon at 4 a game (didn't count Murray bc he didn't play the last couple games).

[Dverde]

New interview from 12/4
http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/one-on-one-with-spurs-jaron-blossomgame (http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/one-on-one-with-spurs-jaron-blossomgame)

[Keepin' it real]

:lobt2:

[LakerHater]

Shoulda drafted Jordan Bell

[Chinook]

Shoulda drafted Jordan Bell

True, but that has nothing to do with Blossom. Would have been White's problem. BG's actually doing reasonably well in Austin right now.

[Robz4000]

True, but that has nothing to do with Blossom. Would have been White's problem. BG's actually doing reasonably well in Austin right now.

Really wish he was one of the Spurs' two-way contracts tbh.

[DAF86]

Shoulda drafted Jordan Bell

The worst part of not drafting Bell is that there were a lot of people here asking for him, so it wasn't as if his was a case of hindsight, tbh.

Also, looking at the roster construction, a bigman did a lot more sense than a guard. Bell would be getting a lot more minutes than what White has got so far. Just a bad move all around.

[Play Boban]

The worst part of not drafting Bell is that there were a lot of people here asking for him, so it wasn't as if his was a case of hindsight, tbh.

Also, looking at the roster construction, a bigman did a lot more sense than a guard. Bell would be getting a lot more minutes than what White has got so far. Just a bad move all around.
:cry

[Chinook]

Really wish he was one of the Spurs' two-way contracts tbh.

Would be a good time to have him now with the team needing players who can play PF and Brandon Paul sucking it up as the backup SF.

[Chinook]

The worst part of not drafting Bell is that there were a lot of people here asking for him, so it wasn't as if his was a case of hindsight, tbh.

Also, looking at the roster construction, a bigman did a lot more sense than a guard. Bell would be getting a lot more minutes than what White has got so far. Just a bad move all around.

I would not have been surprised if the team knew they wanted Brandon Paul anyway, so they should have known their guard depth was "fine". Even if Bryn hadn't had that epic summer league, there were options like Hanlan or any of the guards who showed out (Mike James?) who could have stepped in.

The lack of a fourth legit big is maddening, even if I like the smalls as individuals. That missing depth has been causing problems left and right.

[raybies]

Pop playing an undersized big who doesn't space the floor? Lol he doesn't fit our system. Look at the bigs we play... they all stretch the floor... silly talk.

Edit: even our scrub two way player, Costello shoots threes... that alone should tell y'all the direction we are going with bigs. Dedmon is better than Bell with similar skill set and we let him walk. Y'all overrating GS players again...

[BackHome]

He is the third best guy on the Toros team.

[phxspurfan]

The lack of a fourth legit big is maddening, even if I like the smalls as individuals. That missing depth has been causing problems left and right.

This. When I go to the game and watch Joff play I shit my pants

[TimDunkem]

^What will happen to you if Gasol or LMA go down?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I don't think Bell would have played at all. Perhaps they wouldn't have signed Lauvergne had they drafted him, but I doubt that. The Spurs don't need a 4th center, especially an undersized one who can't shoot.

He's a good prospect but he doesn't fit in the current Spurs and he's benefiting massively from playing in a team with amazing shooters and ball movement.

[SAGirl]

I would not have been surprised if the team knew they wanted Brandon Paul anyway, so they should have known their guard depth was "fine". Even if Bryn hadn't had that epic summer league, there were options like Hanlan or any of the guards who showed out (Mike James?) who could have stepped in.

The lack of a fourth legit big is maddening, even if I like the smalls as individuals. That missing depth has been causing problems left and right.

Do you count Bertans as a legit big? I count him as a backup 4 and he’s been fine in that role. It is Joff really who is not reliable. I am just confused who you refer to as 3rd or 4th bigs.

It’s a bigger problem bc as much-as you saw BP3 sucking as a backup 3, lets not forget both Kawhi and Kyle are injured. Under normal circumstances BP3 is just a garbage time, and rest games player and no one would complain about him, bc the forwards spots is well covered. However, how about Joff? How about that center spot?

[SAGirl]

^What will happen to you if Gasol or LMA go down?
Pop hasn’t even been able to rest them. I am sure Pop would have rather not even played Gasol in the OKC game bc he only played the 1st half but he had to bc he had no other bigs than Joff, then Davis and Kyle, who are really forwards.

Anyways, they do need to get something out of Joff or get a better big.

[Stabula]

Hell of a name

[r0drig0lac]

Hell of a name
and that is all!

[TD 21]

:lol Look at all the usual suspect apologists, out in full force.

It was obvious that Bell could step right in and do what he's doing now. He's clearly already better than Lauvergne and probably only wasn't picked because he doesn't look or act like a Spur. Even though they'd have played politics early on and defaulted to the latter because he's more experienced, it wouldn't have taken long for the former to usurp him.


Spurs lack of a credible third center options, is ridiculous and they should be looking to rectify it (should offer Forbes and Lauvergne for Nogueira or Len) because if Aldridge or Gasol goes down for an extended period, they're in trouble. Don't even want to have to give one a rest game because it means more than spot minutes for Lauvergne, who's not an NBA player. Even if he were, his paltry 6'9.5'' wingspan is insufficient to play the position.

[raybies]

Lauvergne is better than Bell. He's a highly skilled big that can stretch the floor and roll. Look at who the Warriors have playing big, McGee, Looney, Jones. That is a terrible rotation but its the Warriors so they make him look better than he really is. Even in the playoffs McGee looked like a monster. You put Joff on the Warriors and then y'all would be crying about why we didn't get him. Hoe mentality as I say. Joff has been injured the majority of his time here. I think Bell is playing more because of how bad the other options are as to how good he's been. He blows lots of assignments and isn't disciplined on d and is only a finishing big. Those types are dime a dozen especially size considered. Facts. Apologist or not.

[benefactor]

Lauvergne is better than Bell.
:lol...no

[benefactor]

TD21 and I actually agree on something. Mark it on the calendar, folks.

[raybies]

:lol...no
How is Bell better? Serious question

Edit:*in what ways is Bell better?

[Robz4000]

How is Bell better? Serious question

Edit:*in what ways is Bell better?

Better on everything related to defense, better rebounder on both ends, better finisher, more athletic

[raybies]

Better on everything related to defense, better rebounder on both ends, better finisher, more athletic
Sample size is too small this year but I'd like to check back on this. I watch almost every game for Warriors and Spurs.

Defense I can see cause shot blocking and steals and that's the obvious reason, but Joff is a better rebounder look it up. Joff is a better post defender and positional defender. Bell blows lots of assignments. His minutes fluctuate between him and Looney. Joff has more attempts than Bell but all Bell shoots is layups and dunks on a stacked Warriors roster so of course his finishing ability and field goal percentage is gonna be high. And athletic? OK when have we prioritized that in a big? Flashy plays like blocks and athleticism gets deified here but IQ and skills is more important. Kyle for example. Dedmon for the former.

[benefactor]

It's funny you speak of sample size...Joff has a ton of experience(over 200 games) already and Bell has a whole 20 games worth and here we are having this conversation. Even if one could contend they are close, Bell's upside easily gives him the edge.

Drafting Bell and not picking up Joff would have been the better option and it's not even a discussion. Bell is already looking like a solid rotation big in this league(a league that is trending towards players with his type of play/potential) and Joff is already looking like a journeyman big that filled a need at the time.

[dabom]

Role player is role player.

[tonight...you]

Role player is role player.
Hot damn true.

[raybies]

It's funny you speak of sample size...Joff has a ton of experience(over 200 games) already and Bell has a whole 20 games worth and here we are having this conversation. Even if one could contend they are close, Bell's upside easily gives him the edge.

Drafting Bell and not picking up Joff would have been the better option and it's not even a discussion. Bell is already looking like a solid rotation big in this league(a league that is trending towards players with his type of play/potential) and Joff is already looking like a journeyman big that filled a need at the time.
I said joff was better you said no. Even if you factor in age which I didn't, it is a discussion. You are being dismissive of my case. I also didn't want to comment cause of sample size but I decided to defend him because even early impressions have been misleading. As far as upside, you may be right about joff being a journeyman but we have Nikola developing in Europe. Spurs typically play experienced bits under Pop. The Blair experiment was a massive failure. Eldon, Oberto, Nesterovic, Nazr, etc. Splitter didn't even play meaningful minutes till later. If you think he would've played here y'all are sadly mistaken. To take him on we would probably have joff anyhow and his experience would of gave him the edge.

As far as his skill set, its only valuable to the right team. GS plays him at the five which they can cause they have spacers and Draymond and Durant. That wouldn't work here cause we aren't built like that.PATFO has skilled bigs like Pau and Joff and a floor spacer like Bertans. Its clear we are prioritizing spacing and IQ.

Look at White, he's glued to the bench that wouldn't change if Bell was there. We would be one less guard and one more big but we'd still have Joff taking minutes cause Bell is an undisciplined took. Not everything that sparkles is Golden. We have pieces that fit our system and they have theirs. All their bigs have the same skill set for a reason just like ours have the same for a reason. I have plenty of points to make...

[benefactor]

:lol...TD21 was right, the apologists are out in force. What a typical, grey spurfan take. I can tell getting into a discourse with you will go nowhere as you are firmly in the :cry muh culture :cry camp. Shit like this is the reason I don't bother posting up here much anymore.

[dabom]

TNT dunce of the year also looked like a decent player too.

[raybies]

:lol...TD21 was right, the apologists are out in force. What a typical, grey spurfan take. I can tell getting into a discourse with you will go nowhere as you are firmly in the :cry muh culture :cry camp. Shit like this is the reason I don't bother posting up here much anymore.
As the trolls tell me "SPURSTALK" I have a difference in opinion. I don't fight every fight but only ones that I feel deserve defense. Sad though that this site is a cesspool of nonsense and trolls. But I love it here so I choose to make a difference. This site is currently a shit forum with a bad rep. DANGEROUS lol but bolds don't give a shit lol. It's rotten here but I stay for the few quality takes from the respected few here. My personal favs are, Chinook, SAGirl, BrklynSpurfan, Spur10, BillMC and a few others. I don't mind standing up to popular opinion as long as there's a case.

ST complains at cancers on the Spursteam over the years and do nothing about the cancers here with their contributions. But Whateva man, see ya around, block me

Edit: By the way: what's all this apologist, muh culture crap about anyways, I don't even know what that means lol It's just deflections from the many firm point I make. I'm just gonna take that as they have no arguement lol I'm just debating here.

[tonight...you]

As the trolls tell me "SPURSTALK" I have a difference in opinion. I don't fight every fight but only ones that I feel deserve defense. Sad though that this site is a cesspool of nonsense and trolls. But I love it here so I choose to make a difference. This site is currently a shit forum with a bad rep. DANGEROUS lol but bolds don't give a shit lol. It's rotten here but I stay for the few quality takes from the respected few here. My personal favs are, Chinook, SAGirl, BrklynSpurfan, Spur10, BillMC and a few others. I don't mind standing up to popular opinion as long as there's a case.

ST complains at cancers on the Spursteam over the years and do nothing about the cancers here with their contributions. But Whateva man, see ya around, block me

Edit: By the way: what's all this apologist, muh culture crap about anyways, I don't even know what that means lol It's just deflections from the many firm point I make. I'm just gonna take that as they have no arguement lol I'm just debating here.
This cat is cool. Me rikey.

[bluebellmaniac]

Shoulda drafted Jordan Bell

Got any hot stock tips? Intel? Facebook? Amazon?

[benefactor]

As the trolls tell me "SPURSTALK" I have a difference in opinion. I don't fight every fight but only ones that I feel deserve defense. Sad though that this site is a cesspool of nonsense and trolls. But I love it here so I choose to make a difference. This site is currently a shit forum with a bad rep. DANGEROUS lol but bolds don't give a shit lol. It's rotten here but I stay for the few quality takes from the respected few here. My personal favs are, Chinook, SAGirl, BrklynSpurfan, Spur10, BillMC and a few others. I don't mind standing up to popular opinion as long as there's a case.

ST complains at cancers on the Spursteam over the years and do nothing about the cancers here with their contributions. But Whateva man, see ya around, block me

Edit: By the way: what's all this apologist, muh culture crap about anyways, I don't even know what that means lol It's just deflections from the many firm point I make. I'm just gonna take that as they have no arguement lol I'm just debating here.
What did you say? Sorry...didn't hear you. I was too busy shining the award I earned back when this place had better takes and I gave a shit.

[raybies]

What did you say? Sorry...didn't hear you. I was too busy shining the award I earned back when this place had better takes and I gave a shit.
your making yourself look silly man.

Edit: There are way more "greys" than "bolds" now brother. Most people don't care about that and I wonder how many were here when that mattered. New times man. This forum isn't even moderated any more for the most part. Nothing cool happens here anymore. Just the occasional good takes, and good debates.

[SAGirl]

There’s a definite difference of roster construction that makes comparing players out of context tricky. Bc Bell is no longer available it’s also pointless.

What’s probably more relevant is what the Spurs can get out of Joff. We haven’t even seen enough of him bc he got injured, but what little has been seen of him at times hasn’t been good. He’s made some passes in garbage time, but I am more interested in whether he can protect the rim and finish in the paint in a PNR. He’s not convincing on either aspect.

Was he meant to be a rotation big that disappointed and fell out of the rotation? Is he out of the rotation bc he’s gotten injured and now has a finger in a splint? Or is he out of the rotation bc Bertans is better? Can you play Bertans and him together if you need to and do well? If you can, why haven’t we seen much of this pairing? There’s a lot of questions surrounding Joff performance right now and he hasn’t been healthy to even see him much.

Which gives me me the impression Pop may try to feed him minutes to wvaluate him further.

[TD 21]

TD21 and I actually agree on something. Mark it on the calendar, folks.


:lol...TD21 was right, the apologists are out in force. What a typical, grey spurfan take. I can tell getting into a discourse with you will go nowhere as you are firmly in the :cry muh culture :cry camp. Shit like this is the reason I don't bother posting up here much anymore.

:wow