"arrogant, intolerant, dangerous" World opinion of US declines

[RandomGuy]

http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/


Survey respondents were read a list of positive and negative characteristics, and for each one, were asked whether it describes Donald Trump. Around the globe, people associate a number of negative characteristics with the U.S. leader. Most say he is arrogant, intolerant and dangerous, while few think of him as well-qualified or as someone who cares about ordinary people. Describing Trump as charismatic is more common, although global publics on balance do not think of him as charismatic either. They do, however, see Trump as a strong leader – a median of 55% across the nations polled describe him this way.

If you think it doesn't matter, you are wrong.

Economists have measured the impact of world opinion, and each point drop causes economic damage, as demand for US goods and services declines. It affects the economy.

FWIW.

[spurraider21]

yeah but obama went on an apology tour

[boutons_deux]

yeah but obama went on an apology tour

You Lie

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/obama-quotes/

[spurraider21]

doesn't surprise me that the most socially awkward poster on ST missed the sarcasm

[SnakeBoy]

Majority of people in the world see Trump as a strong leader.

[spurraider21]

Majority of people in the world see Trump as a strong leader.
link?

[pgardn]

Majority of people in the world see Trump as a whimsical leader.

[Mitch]

The world thought Obama was the greatest man alive, worshiped his turds. 10T extra in debt and nothing to show for it - fuck what foreigners think.

[Thread]

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

Trump President. Not Clinton.

[monosylab1k]

http://img.picturequotes.com/2/208/207298/they-hate-us-cause-they-aint-us-quote-2.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

link?

It's in the op you didn't read :lol


They do, however, see Trump as a strong leader – a median of 55% across the nations polled describe him this way.

[spurraider21]

It's in the op you didn't read :lol
my bad and no, not really.

[spurraider21]

this one's funny though

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/06/23154032/PG_2017.06.26.US_Image-00-9.png

[SnakeBoy]

my bad and no, not really.

It's okay, I rarely do

[spurraider21]

It's okay, I rarely do
op has been a bit unhinged since the election, so i tread carefully... still remember when he was spamming melania modeling pics :lol

[SnakeBoy]

op has been a bit unhinged since the election, so i tread carefully... still remember when he was spamming melania modeling pics :lol

That I didn't mind tbh

[RandomGuy]

link?

It's in the OP.

Dictators tend to be viewed as "strong leaders". That isn't exactly a good thing, although I am sure Snakeboy wasn't quite aware of that subtext when he posted.

[RandomGuy]

The world thought Obama was the greatest man alive, worshiped his turds. 10T extra in debt and nothing to show for it - fuck what foreigners think.

Foreigners buy, or don't, US-made products and services.

As noted in the OP, that opinion has real-world costs.

It is free-market economics, and not even difficult concepts at that. Supply. Demand.

The only question is how much Trumps unpopularity will cost US businesses. Given the scope of that unpopularity, that cost will likely have quite a few zeros behind it.

Sorry if reality is inconveniencing your ideology.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's in the OP.

Dictators tend to be viewed as "strong leaders". That isn't exactly a good thing, although I am sure Snakeboy wasn't quite aware of that subtext when he posted.

Stalin was considered a strong leader. The Terrors of the early 20th century were not good leadership.

[Reck]

this one's funny though

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/06/23154032/PG_2017.06.26.US_Image-00-9.png

This tweet sums it all up.

879556950685622273

[Mitch]

Foreigners buy, or don't, US-made products and services.

As noted in the OP, that opinion has real-world costs.

It is free-market economics, and not even difficult concepts at that. Supply. Demand.

The only question is how much Trumps unpopularity will cost US businesses. Given the scope of that unpopularity, that cost will likely have quite a few zeros behind it.

Sorry if reality is inconveniencing your ideology.

Nobody cares anymore where shit is made unless its luxury goods, citibank.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Nobody cares anymore where shit is made unless its luxury goods, citibank.

Sounds like you shop at Walmart but you only get to speak for yourself not the rest of us.

[RandomGuy]

Nobody cares anymore where shit is made unless its luxury goods, citibank.

So you have seen the comprehensive analytics of buying patterns in the rest of the world to support this?

That is the kind of data I enjoy reading. Can I get a link to it, please?

[Mitch]

So you have seen the comprehensive analytics of buying patterns in the rest of the world to support this?

That is the kind of data I enjoy reading. Can I get a link to it, please?

You didn't like reading the ties your buddy had to citibank, denied it in the face of objective proof, but I'm sure you'll not repeat that pattern :lol

Only a moron tries to predict economics based on whether or not a president is liked. What kind of asinine foundation for economics is that?

[Thread]

You didn't like reading the ties your buddy had to citibank, denied it in the face of objective proof, but I'm sure you'll not repeat that pattern :lol

Only a moron tries to predict economics based on whether or not a president is liked. What kind of asinine foundation for economics is that?

Mitch, opening RG's hole.

[RandomGuy]

You didn't like reading the ties your buddy had to citibank, denied it in the face of objective proof, but I'm sure you'll not repeat that pattern :lol

Only a moron tries to predict economics based on whether or not a president is liked. What kind of asinine foundation for economics is that?

So you don't have any data to support your statement.

[RandomGuy]

economics based on whether or not a president is liked.

The OP is about perceptions of the United States in general, not "whether or not a president is liked".

In this case, one is the cause of the other.

Trump is dragging the rest of us down, you included.

[Thread]

Trump is dragging the rest of us down, you included.

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

[Mitch]

The OP is about perceptions of the United States in general, not "whether or not a president is liked".

In this case, one is the cause of the other.

Trump is dragging the rest of us down, you included.

We'll be fine if Mr. Citibank didn't kill this nation off with almost a decade. Trump has a long way to go if he wants to make a bigger negative impact than #44 :lol

Arguing about a retarded premise is pretty pointless, especially with a guy that refuses to criticize #44 for allowing citibank to pick some of his cabinet.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We'll be fine if Mr. Citibank didn't kill this nation off with almost a decade. Trump has a long way to go if he wants to make a bigger negative impact than #44 :lol

Arguing about a retarded premise is pretty pointless, especially with a guy that refuses to criticize #44 for allowing citibank to pick some of his cabinet.

Every politician takes money from the banks. It's the nature of the beast. Citicorp's lobbying bill is $28m. Goldman Sachs is even more.

Trump actually appointed a Goldman Sachs executive to head the Treasury. Your narrative is pretty ignorant.

[hater]

He mopped the fuckin' floor with her fuckin' ass.

[Chucho]

Every politician takes money from the banks. It's the nature of the beast. Citicorp's lobbying bill is $28m. Goldman Sachs is even more.

Trump actually appointed a Goldman Sachs executive to head the Treasury. Your narrative is pretty ignorant.


Source? Link? Until then, your narrative is false and unfounded.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Source? Link? Until then, your narrative is false and unfounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Mnuchin

Your ignorance is amusing though.

[RandomGuy]

German audience cheers as US commerce secretary speech is cut off

https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-audience-cheers-us-commerce-160700176.html

[RandomGuy]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Mnuchin

Your ignorance is amusing though.

Mnuchin is also an executive producer of the new Lego Batman movie.

[RandomGuy]

We'll be fine if Mr. Citibank didn't kill this nation off with almost a decade. Trump has a long way to go if he wants to make a bigger negative impact than #44 :lol

Arguing about a retarded premise is pretty pointless, especially with a guy that refuses to criticize #44 for allowing citibank to pick some of his cabinet.

It was stupid.

We all, as citizens are harmed when large corporations are allowed to run government.

That was easy.

Do you think we are served well by presidents that do stuff like this?

[Mitch]

It was stupid.

We all, as citizens are harmed when large corporations are allowed to run government.

That was easy.

Do you think we are served well by presidents that do stuff like this?

It was stupid, that's all? :lol

His cabinet appointments are basically picked out by the top of the 1%. It was corrupt, shady as all he'll and nobody seems to give a flying fuck.

I don't agree with that 100% of what our president does, I'd be pushing it if I said 75%. He shouldn't exaggerate so much, put more attention on neocons like mccain and far lefties like Gillibrand instead of the media because they're the real problem. Trump is hit and miss, he does good by us and not so good, but nothing he's done so far has had a big impact (good or bad) outside of tpp withdrawal, no getting gorsuch in and he fucked up endorsing Paul Ryan's shitty Healthcare reform which I'm glad didn't pass.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It was stupid.

We all, as citizens are harmed when large corporations are allowed to run government.

That was easy.

Do you think we are served well by presidents that do stuff like this?

Lobbyists play a part in the nomination of all cabinet appointments. I don't know why you are allowing that shitty talking point to go. Moral relativism like he is espousing should be a nonstarter.

The majority of Obama's appointments came from within his party. Then there are substantive differences like choosing a Federal Reserve Board member as opposed to a Goldman Sachs executive, the Director of the Berkeley National Laboratory as opposed to Rick Perry, the superintendent of Chicago Public schools as opposed to Betsy Devos, a fossil fuel corporate lawyer as opposed to an EPA commissioner, or Exxon's CEO as opposed to a US Senator.

You aren't going to get him to answer your question honestly and have him make your argument for you. He sees it but he is going to dodge and dissemble as they always do. I get that you are trying to extend an olive branch but its a waste of time.

[RandomGuy]

It was stupid, that's all? :lol

His cabinet appointments are basically picked out by the top of the 1%. It was corrupt, shady as all he'll and nobody seems to give a flying fuck.

I don't agree with that 100% of what our president does, I'd be pushing it if I said 75%. He shouldn't exaggerate so much, put more attention on neocons like mccain and far lefties like Gillibrand instead of the media because they're the real problem. Trump is hit and miss, he does good by us and not so good, but nothing he's done so far has had a big impact (good or bad) outside of tpp withdrawal, no getting gorsuch in and he fucked up endorsing Paul Ryan's shitty Healthcare reform which I'm glad didn't pass.

Donald Trump’s Washington is paralysed

And the man in the Oval Office is making a bad situation worse


Mr Trump’s hostility has already undermined the courts, the intelligence services, the state department and America’s environmental watchdog. He wants deep budget cuts and has failed to fill presidential appointments. Of 562 key positions identified by the Washington Post, 390 remain without a nominee.
As harmful as what Mr Trump does is the way he does it. In the campaign he vowed to fight special interests. But his solution—to employ businesspeople too rich for lobbyists to buy—is no solution at all. Just look at Mr Trump himself: despite his half-hearted attempts to disentangle the presidency and the family business, nobody knows where one ends and the other begins. He promised to be a dealmaker, but his impulse to belittle his opponents and the miasma of scandal and leaks surrounding Russia’s role in the campaign have made the chances of cross-party co-operation even more remote. The lack of respect for expertise, such as the attacks on the Congressional Budget Office over its dismal scoring of health-care reform, only makes Washington more partisan. Most important, Mr Trump’s disregard for the truth cuts into what remains of the basis for cross-party agreement. If you cannot agree on the facts, all you have left is a benighted clash of rival tribes.
https://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21724392-and-man-oval-office-making-bad-situation-worse-donald-trumps-washington

The paralysis he is causing is hurting everything.

[RandomGuy]

Mr Trump has also fuelled the mistrust. He has correctly identified areas where America needs reform, but botched his response—partly because of his own incontinent ego. Take tax. No one doubts that America’s tax code is a mess, stuffed full of loopholes and complexity. But Mr Trump’s reform plans show every sign of turning into a cut for the rich that leaves the code as baffling as ever. So, too, health care. Instead of reforming Obamacare, Republicans are in knots over a bill that would leave millions of Mr Trump’s own voters sicker and poorer.

[RandomGuy]

Lobbyists play a part in the nomination of all cabinet appointments. I don't know why you are allowing that shitty talking point to go. Moral relativism like he is espousing should be a nonstarter.

The majority of Obama's appointments came from within his party. Then there are substantive differences like choosing a Federal Reserve Board member as opposed to a Goldman Sachs executive, the Director of the Berkeley National Laboratory as opposed to Rick Perry, the superintendent of Chicago Public schools as opposed to Betsy Devos, a fossil fuel corporate lawyer as opposed to an EPA commissioner, or Exxon's CEO as opposed to a US Senator.

You aren't going to get him to answer your question honestly and have him make your argument for you. He sees it but he is going to dodge and dissemble as they always do. I get that you are trying to extend an olive branch but its a waste of time.

At some point we are all in the same boat. If we can set aside the tribe stuff, and realize we are all bailing the same water, maybe, just maybe, we can start patching the holes...

[boutons_deux]

At some point we are all in the same boat. If we can set aside the tribe stuff, and realize we are all bailing the same water, maybe, just maybe, we can start patching the holes...

bullshit, the sinking of America and Americans will continue unstoppably until 2020, and will be listing badly for many years after.