ESPN: Spurs interested in Andre Iguodala

[Uriel]

This was already posted in the Offseason Thread, but it got buried there, and I thought it was significant enough to warrant a thread of its own.


Would Andre Iguodala (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2386/andre-iguodala) consider leaving the Golden State Warriors (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/gs/golden-state-warriors)? ESPN's Chris Haynes reports (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19751871/seven-teams-aim-pry-andre-iguodala-golden-state-warriors) that the open market poses a serious threat of stealing the 33-year-old veteran from the defending champs come July 1. The Minnesota Timberwolves (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/min/minnesota-timberwolves), San Antonio Spurs (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs), LA Clippers (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/la-clippers), Philadelphia 76ers (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-76ers), Orlando Magic (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/orl/orlando-magic), Brooklyn Nets (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/bkn/brooklyn-nets) and Utah Jazz (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/utah/utah-jazz) are among the teams that are interested in the 2015 Finals MVP, sources tell ESPN.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19751422/nba-free-agency-2017-latest-news-buzz-rumors

[Mr. Body]

Weaken a rival, drive up his price.

Still lol at his Finals MVP.

[Uriel]

ESPN's Marc Stein first reported that the Spurs are attempting to create salary-cap flexibility to pursue Chris Paul (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2779/chris-paul) this summer, and a combo acquisition of the Clippers' All-Star point guard and Iguodala has been discussed internally, sources say. The Spurs have made LaMarcus Aldridge (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge) and Danny Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green) available for trades, according to sources.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19751871/several-teams-aim-pry-andre-iguodala-golden-state-war

[TheDoctor]

Do not want. Hope he signs w/ the Nets.

[illusioNtEk]

Rather have simmons

[Spurtacular]

Takin' away their x-factor? Maybe. Dubs have some young athletic talent in reserve though.

[BatManu20]

Hope he leaves the Dubs, but not for SA, tbh.

[rastaspur]

Hope he leaves the Dubs, but not for SA, tbh.

[tholdren]

Hope he leaves the Dubs, but not for SA, tbh.

Dick jefferson jr

[sasaint]

Dick jefferson jr

Dick Jefferson III, tbh.

[coachmac87]

I think the most interesting about what's reported is that executives across the league agreed they should pluck away the role players from GSW...

[Spurtacular]

Rudy Gay anyone?

[baseline bum]

I'd love to have Iguodala, but him going to the Spurs doesn't make much sense. You don't leave a team like the Warriors, and if you do, you do it for a boatload of cash. The only team that would offer him ridiculous money would be the 76ers to have him mentor their young allstar talent.

[Spurtacular]

I think the most interesting about what's reported is that executives across the league agreed they should pluck away the role players from GSW...

Shaun Livingston would be a huge loss if he can be lured away.

[Uriel]

I think the most interesting about what's reported is that executives across the league agreed they should pluck away the role players from GSW...

I'd love to have Iguodala, but him going to the Spurs doesn't make much sense. You don't leave a team like the Warriors, and if you do, you do it for a boatload of cash. The only team that would offer him ridiculous money would be the 76ers to have him mentor their young allstar talent.
Yup. I really hope some bottom-dwelling Eastern conference team like Philadelphia offers him a max contract just so he leaves Golden State.

[baseline bum]

Shaun Livingston would be a huge loss if he can be lured away.

Now Livingston is the guy that's attainable. I don't think he has ever had a big contract and as great as it must be to play for the Warriors team, he's too good to be playing only 18 minutes a night. I think Golden State is going to have a really hard time bringing him back because they can't afford to pay him what he's worth nor play him the minutes he's worth.

[rastaspur]

I think the most interesting about what's reported is that executives across the league agreed they should pluck away the role players from GSW...

That's great news tbh. I like to hear about a swell of saltiness brewing among rival gm's and thoughts of weakening the deathstar

[Mr. Body]

Prelude to finally trading Kawhi.

[rastaspur]

Now Livingston is the guy that's attainable. I don't think he has ever had a big contract and as great as it must be to play for the Warriors team, he's too good to be playing only 18 minutes a night. I think Golden State is going to have a really hard time bringing him back because they can't afford to pay him what he's worth nor play him the minutes he's worth.

True. His true value is above that of mills. He deserves a payday imo

[SPURt]

Rather have simmons
+1

[RD2191]

Why sign him when we have MVBlossomgame?

[baseline bum]

Yup. I really hope some bottom-dwelling Eastern conference team like Philadelphia offers him a max contract just so he leaves Golden State.

Philly has to add somewhere in the neighborhood of $50 million to their payroll this summer to hit the salary floor, so I imagine they'll offer Iguodala something in the range of 2 years, $45 million. It's enough to get their man to help teach their A+ talent how to win in this league without being something that's going to handcuff their future. I gotta say, I think Philly is going to be such an interesting team to watch next season. Hinkie really put them in a great position.

Too bad Golden State will probably be able to afford Livingston if Iguodala walks.

[Spurtacular]

Now Livingston is the guy that's attainable. I don't think he has ever had a big contract and as great as it must be to play for the Warriors team, he's too good to be playing only 18 minutes a night. I think Golden State is going to have a really hard time bringing him back because they can't afford to pay him what he's worth nor play him the minutes he's worth.

I think he had preferred low minutes after his horrific injury and coming back from it clearly hampered. He's stronger now; so, maybe he wants more now.

[baseline bum]

I think he had preferred low minutes after his horrific injury and coming back from it clearly hampered. He's stronger now; so, maybe he wants more now.

He was playing more minutes in Brooklyn back when he was the best player on their last playoff team.

[DesignatedT]

Doubtful

[HarlemHeat37]

Good to see that teams around the league are going to throw big money at key Warriors players, it's the only chance anybody has at competing with them(although losing Iggy or Livingston doesn't change much), tbh..hopefully the Spurs aren't that team, though, it should be some bottom-feeder like the Nets..

[Ron Swanson]

Hope he leaves the Dubs, but not for SA, tbh.

[therealtruth]

Got to go after both Igoudala and Livingston. I think they would both help alot. They're the type of 2 way players you need to beat the Warriors. Livingston could groom Murray into taking over the starting PG spot.

[TheGreatYacht]

Why sign him when we have MVBlossomgame?
:lol

[Blackjack]

I'd take Livingston in a heartbeat. Big fan of his coming into the league, respect only grew seeing the way he overcame one of the most horrific injuries on the court I've ever seen.

Throw in his knowledge of GS . . .

Yeah, I'll take that guy.

[gambit1990]

at times he looked like he might crumble when trying to guard lebron these past finals.

he can be effective/efficient with the ball though... had the best assist to turnover ratio last season.

[gambit1990]

I'd take Livingston in a heartbeat. Big fan of his coming into the league, respect only grew seeing the way he overcame one of the most horrific injuries on the court I've ever seen.

Throw in his knowledge of GS . . .

Yeah, I'll take that guy.
i've been saying i'd take him too :tu

[Down Under]

Hope someone offers him $20mil/season and he bolts. He's their 4th best player.

[BillMc]

Would like him but not at what it would cost to get him. Best case scenario is someone else overpays Iggy and gets him off the Dubs.

[DAF86]

Igoudala is about to decline hard any minute now. Do not want.

[Ditty]

He might be useful for the next two years, but may be out of our price range.

I wanted an Iggy trade for Jefferson, and a first a couple year back.

I don't think he is an ideal fit, and not a huge need.

[tmtcsc]

Fuck no, don't want him here. He does a lot for the Dubs but let someone else overpay him.

[Mal]

Bad idea

[Chinook]

Pop needs to walk out of the building and just keep going if his plan is blow up the rotation around Kawhi and go hard after Iggy.

[MultiTroll]

:rolleyes No.
30+ / declining / overpay

This ish needs to stop a long time ago.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I think Pop plans to coach 2 more years. I believe he is all in on the next 2 years and screw the future. As much as he looks for players that are over themselves I think the praise he has gotten since winning in 2014 has gone to his head. He thinks that a ring without Timmy will be a huge feather in his hat and whatever he can do to achieve that he is going to try.

[benefactor]

No thanks.

[SAGirl]

:rolleyes No.
30+ / declining / overpay

This ish needs to stop a long time ago.

Perfect substitute for Manu?:lol

[LittleCriminal]

I Would take Rudy Gay if Cp3 signs here.. That would be titts.

[rjv]

I think Pop plans to coach 2 more years. I believe he is all in on the next 2 years and screw the future. As much as he looks for players that are over themselves I think the praise he has gotten since winning in 2014 has gone to his head. He thinks that a ring without Timmy will be a huge feather in his hat and whatever he can do to achieve that he is going to try. i think pop coaches through his stint in the 2020 olympics and then calls it.

[mudyez]

Don't want him, don't want CP3, not even that high on PG13 as it's only a rent.

Just get rid of LMA, give his minutes to Bertans and see what can be done in a year.

If anything, make a pitch for Hayward!

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Weaken a rival, drive up his price.

Still lol at his Finals MVP.

Who else? Eliancito was a choker that series... got outplayed by Dellavedova. Thompson was very inconsistent. Green was pretty darn good. Their bench was amazing.

Iggy manned LeBron, drained threes, and attacked the rim with ferocity. You had to give it to Iggy.

[tholdren]

Just dump gasol and lma and this off season will be a success no matter who spurs get in return

[TimDunkem]

Just dump gasol and lma and this off season will be a success no matter who spurs get in return

[TimDunkem]

I shudder to think what CP3 and Harden are going to do to Gasol and LMA in the pick and roll...:depressed

[CGD]

Stay away! Would rather have Livingston

[r0drig0lac]

Just dump gasol and lma and this off season will be a success no matter who spurs get in return

[sananspursfan21]

If just for the simple fact of subtracting from GSW, I love it

[Uriel]

880923742418894848

[CGD]

Please no

[Russ]

880923742418894848

He's a role player likely to decline at his age.

He'll command way too much to be a valuable acquisition for the Spurs.

[ducks]

For right money ok

[ducks]

He also is going to want a shot at winning
Gs owner not wanting to pay tax

[AFBlue]

I don't care how old he is. Dude is nails when healthy, and the Spurs are the best team in the NBA about managing minutes and extending careers. Would be huge.

[TimDunkem]

I don't care how old he is. Dude is nails when healthy, and the Spurs are the best team in the NBA about managing minutes and extending careers. Would be huge.
Yet people want Hill who will be 32 next year. At least Iggy stays healthy, tbh.

[baseline bum]

I could see the Spurs offering $15 million and a starting spot and then salary dumping Green. But is $15 million enough to leave Golden State when they'll probably be able to offer $10 million or so?

[RD2191]

I'd take him over Hill.

[baseline bum]

I'd take him over Hill.

I imagine he'd be here to replace Green. I don't think it would take the Spurs out of the Hill sweepstakes.

[lefty]

No

Just no

[Mugen]

I imagine he'd be here to replace Green. I don't think it would take the Spurs out of the Hill sweepstakes.

Meh, that would suck . I'd be fine with Iggy on a decent contract as a backup combo forward.

He's not taking a pay cut to leave the Dubs so I wonder why the Spurs would throw that much money at him tbh.

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDm7I2SXYAAeVHN?format=jpg&name=large

[AFBlue]

No

Just no

Excellent analysis. :tu

[Atl Spur]

Iggy + Kawhi = Nasty defense!! 3/39 sounds about right!

[AFBlue]

Meh, that would suck . I'd be fine with Iggy on a decent contract as a backup combo forward.

He's not taking a pay cut to leave the Dubs so I wonder why the Spurs would throw that much money at him tbh.

Because they want to get better, and it would also have the added benefit of weakening their primary competition for a title.

[baseline bum]

Meh, that would suck . I'd be fine with Iggy on a decent contract as a backup combo forward.

He's not taking a pay cut to leave the Dubs so I wonder why the Spurs would throw that much money at him tbh.

I'd pay $5 million extra to upgrade Green to Iguodala, especially if the Spurs can land a pick in a Green salary dump.

[TimDunkem]

I'd pay $5 million extra to upgrade Green to Iguodala, especially if the Spurs can land a pick in a Green salary dump.
No shit. Green looks like he's declining faster anyway. :lol Also, he can actually dribble the ball and run at the same time.

[Big Empty]

Two year contract ok. Anything more would be bullshit. We already paying 34 year old Parker 15m

[DesignatedT]

Spurs will need solid clutch vets to have a realistic shot. I'm for it if the price/years are right. I like the idea of Murray playing beside Iggy in the backcourt... someone who can take some pressure off the youngin by simply being able to dribble. Plus the dude is nails when it matters and isn't that what it's all about?

[TimDunkem]

Spurs will need solid clutch vets to have a realistic shot. I'm for it if the price/years are right. I like the idea of Murray playing beside Iggy in the backcourt... someone who can take some pressure off the youngin by simply being able to dribble. Plus the dude is nails when it matters and isn't that what it's all about?
Murray, Kawhi, and Iggy running the fast break would be sick, imo.

[mudyez]

If it's basically a Green for Iggy swap, it's bullshit.

It's not like Green+Iggy aren't a great defensive combo or we are in a need for a Lebron stopper.

[Uriel]

If we can get Andre Iguodala and George Hill during free agency, it would not be a bad offseason. It might even be better than adding just Chris Paul.

[mudyez]

If we can get Andre Iguodala and George Hill during free agency, it would not be a bad offseason. It might even be better than adding just Chris Paul.

I'd prefer Hill+Milsap while keeping Green and/or Simmons and getting rid of LMA.

[elemento]

Typical Spurs

Getting the right player at the wrong time .

Iggy would be great 3/4 years ago not now.

[sasaint]

Spurs will need solid clutch vets to have a realistic shot. I'm for it if the price/years are right. I like the idea of Murray playing beside Iggy in the backcourt... someone who can take some pressure off the youngin by simply being able to dribble. Plus the dude is nails when it matters and isn't that what it's all about?

Iggy is a SF.

[sasaint]

Typical Spurs

Getting the right player at the wrong time .

Iggy would be great 3/4 years ago not now.

So true! Pau redux.

[Atl Spur]

So true! Pau redux.

You might want to take a look at iggy again...... Way better than Danny

[baseline bum]

If we can get Andre Iguodala and George Hill during free agency, it would not be a bad offseason. It might even be better than adding just Chris Paul.

I would imagine the Spurs are looking to dump Green and sign Iguodala, salary dump Aldridge so they can sign Hill, get Simmons to accept their MLE offer, and bring Gasol and Lee back to be the starting 4/5.

[baseline bum]

Though I guess I'd rather dump Green for Iguodala, salary dump Aldridge to sign Millsap, let Gasol walk, and bring back Lee and Simmons. Especially if the team thinks Parker can come back by the second half of the season to back up Murray.

[Atl Spur]

Iggy prob got a good solid 4yrs left; you don't win with rookies in this league; you groom them behind vets. Tried and true theory by the Spurs

[sasaint]

I would imagine the Spurs are looking to dump Green and sign Iguodala, salary dump Aldridge so they can sign Hill, get Simmons to accept their MLE offer, and bring Gasol and Lee back to be the starting 4/5.

Salary dump LMA for Mullsap or Griffin. We don't need to add to our PG collection except maybe a cheap contract like Patrick Beverly to be Murray's safety net.

[DesignatedT]

Now keeping Green, stretching Parker and getting Iggy to take that Manu role would be the dream scenario.

[baseline bum]

Salary dump LMA for Mullsap or Griffin. We don't need to add to our PG collection except maybe a cheap contract like Patrick Beverly to be Murray's safety net.

Yeah I'd much rather have Millsap than Hill. Not that I'm big on Millsap, but I'd take the gamble on Murray as a starter. Especially with him working with Kawhi all off-season.

[baseline bum]

Now keeping Green, stretching Parker and getting Iggy to take that Manu role would be the dream scenario.

He's already playing the Manu role in Golden State. I don't see why he'd leave that to play on the bench here for the kind of money the Spurs could offer.

[DesignatedT]

I mean vets usually come here to pro long their career. Spurs might be able to slide him into a starting role but he's meeting with the wrong team/will be playing for the wrong coach if he's looking for some huge influx in minutes. He seems like a smart guy, I think he knows this.

[AFBlue]

I mean vets usually come here to pro long their career. Spurs might be able to slide him into a starting role but he's meeting with the wrong team/will be playing for the wrong coach if he's looking for some huge influx in minutes. He seems like a smart guy, I think he knows this.

He could be more "featured" and still have his minutes managed. On the Warriors he's the fifth option at best. For the Spurs he's the clear #3 and could be a primary ball-handler when Kawhi is off the court.

[spursistan]

880929744170098689

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u29OSGgicCU

From Silicon Valley to the River Walk :rollin..

[99 Problems]

B4 the playoffs when he was trying to get back from being banged up I thought it was the first sign of him slowing right down tbh. But hey, when he got back for the Cavs he was very very good. Looked like the usual big game Iggy. He would be excellent for the young guys as well. Plus the other teams would all owe us one :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Some of these Iguodala comments in this thread are outrageous, tbh:lol this isn't 2012..

[Atl Spur]

Some of these Iguodala comments in this thread are outrageous, tbh:lol this isn't 2012..

I trust my eyes...... he's an upgrade to our roster especially at the right price.

[TimDunkem]

Some of these Iguodala comments in this thread are outrageous, tbh:lol this isn't 2012..
Better than D.Green, tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

I trust my eyes...... he's an upgrade to our roster especially at the right price.

Aren't you the same guy that wanted to start Andre Roberson, my nigga?

[Slippy]

Would love Igs on the spurs. Gald to see the FO have mutual interest. Look pass the stats. This guy is spurs masterial

[SpurPadre]

No more old fucks please. Only have room for two old dudes: Manu and TP

[GSH]

They're saying that if Iggy walks, the Dubs are going to try to sign Dedmon.

[baseline bum]

880929744170098689

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u29OSGgicCU

From Silicon Valley to the River Walk :rollin..

He called it Silicone Valley :lol

No Iggy, that's the valley north of LA where they shoot all the porn

[Uriel]

I would imagine the Spurs are looking to dump Green and sign Iguodala, salary dump Aldridge so they can sign Hill, get Simmons to accept their MLE offer, and bring Gasol and Lee back to be the starting 4/5.
I imagine they would try to bring back Splitter or Diaw for the minimum to be their starting big.

[baseline bum]

Woj just said Iguodala requested the meeting and that the Spurs took it but don't have a lot of interest in signing him.

[Uriel]

Woj just said Iguodala requested the meeting and that the Spurs took it but don't have a lot of interest in signing him.
:lol Using Spurs as leverage

[Leetonidas]

Where did he say that?

[baseline bum]

Where did he say that?

Woj is on Sports Center until midnight

[sexinthatsx]

Am I the only one that is somewhat interested in Iggy? I mean the guy is a point forward, he can bring the ball up the court and pass pretty well, can play without the ball in his hands. He's a pretty versatile player, albeit older. I actually think he may fit in pretty well.

[FkLA]

Am I the only one that is somewhat interested in Iggy? I mean the guy is a point forward, he can bring the ball up the court and pass pretty well, can play without the ball in his hands. He's a pretty versatile player, albeit older. I actually think he may fit in pretty well.

I do too.He'd flourish in SA, imo. These people want big names but guys like Iggy or Gay might be as good as it gets for us.

[spurraider21]

moving green to make room for iggy would be awful

[FkLA]

moving green to make room for iggy would be awful

Why? I love Danny but it'd be a clear upgrade imo.

[spurraider21]

Why? I love Danny but it'd be a clear upgrade imo.
iggy is 33

it's an all-in move that's not going to put us over the top now while mortgaging our future. green can be a key contributor here for years... iggy cant

[TheGreatYacht]

Iggy has more in the tank than Green. Let's be real...

[TimDunkem]

Iggy has more in the tank than Green. Let's be real...
B, b, b---but all defensive second team! Who cares if he can't dribble and run at the same time?! :lol

[FkLA]

Yeah, Danny is like 30 now. He's no spring chicken. It makes no sense to not want Iggy bc he's 33 but want Danny to be a key contributor for years. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Yeah, Danny is like 30 now. He's no spring chicken. It makes no sense to not want Iggy bc he's 33 but want Danny to be a key contributor for years. :lol
According to Spurstalk, he's due to break down any moment yet they still want Manu back to play 15 minutes a game and handling the ball in crunch time. :lol

[spurraider21]

Yeah, Danny is like 30 now. He's no spring chicken. It makes no sense to not want Iggy bc he's 33 but want Danny to be a key contributor for years. :lol
iggy has already clearly declined... green's age isn't showing at all and likely wont for a few years given his style of play

[spurraider21]

According to Spurstalk, he's due to break down any moment yet they still want Manu back to play 15 minutes a game and handling the ball in crunch time. :lol
we aren't being forced to give up a starter and give a big multi-year deal to have manu's services

[TimDunkem]

we aren't being forced to give up a starter and give a big multi-year deal to have manu's services
Just wait until Manu demands 14 million a year again. :lmao

[TimDunkem]

iggy has already clearly declined... green's age isn't showing at all and likely wont for a few years given his style of play
Iggy in 3 years will still probably be a much better player than Green. :lol

[spurraider21]

Iggy in 3 years will still probably be a much better player than Green. :lol
with kawhi improving and becoming a complete player, we dont need another ball handling wing

not to mention iggy isn't capable of handling a full time regular season load... heck he only had 4 postseason games with 30 minutes

[TimDunkem]

with kawhi improving and becoming a complete player, we dont need another ball handling wing
Yeah. Iggy is such a ball stopper!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doTaUgJpgjI

[TimDunkem]

not to mention iggy isn't capable of handling a full time regular season load... heck he only had 4 postseason games with 30 minutes
Nice job making that up. Iggy played almost two hundred more minutes than Green this season. :lmao

[spurraider21]

Yeah. Iggy is such a ball stopper!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doTaUgJpgjI
he's not a ballstopper. he's a ball handler

and the spurs can't space the floor like the warriors do... so he's not going to get all those free dunks. i'm not saying he's a bad player :lol... i just dont think he'd be worth paying big money for and letting green walk

[spurraider21]

Nice job making that up. Iggy played almost two hundred more minutes than Green this season. :lmao
fair point :lol... though that also has to do with Green missing more games. their minutes average was the same, i didnt realize green's minutes were so low

iggy's age is likely to catch up to him sooner than danny, naturally.

[TimDunkem]

He also averaged more assists, rebounds, and shot 65 percent from the floor. Yeah, he benefited from playing on a stacked roster, but he still performed better in every way and is clearly the better player.

Also, you're kidding yourself if you think Green won't be looking for his raise soon too. :lol

[TimDunkem]

he's not a ballstopper. he's a ball handler

and the spurs can't space the floor like the warriors do... so he's not going to get all those free dunks. i'm not saying he's a bad player :lol... i just dont think he'd be worth paying big money for and letting green walk
He'll still put more pressure on defenses than Green ever will. Not to mention this guy can actually run the floor with Kawhi and the young guns. Danny meanwhile is running bow-legged down the court trying to catch up. :lmao

[TimDunkem]

iggy's age is likely to catch up to him sooner than danny, naturally.
I'll take a few years of Iggy than a few years of mediocri--...I mean Danny. :lol

[szkorhetz]

he's not a ballstopper. he's a ball handler

and the spurs can't space the floor like the warriors do... so he's not going to get all those free dunks. i'm not saying he's a bad player :lol... i just dont think he'd be worth paying big money for and letting green walk
Exactly. He won't have those open looks with the Spurs.

[TimDunkem]

Exactly. He won't have those open looks with the Spurs.
Sure. I'm sure with Kawhi running with him on the wings, he won't have any open dunks. Not one. :rolleyes

[szkorhetz]

Sure. I'm sure with Kawhi running with him on the wings, he won't have any open dunks. Not one. :rolleyes
Yeah, focusing on one player is the same as defending the Warriors death lineup, where Igu is the least dangerous scorer. You guys are pathetic at times.

[TimDunkem]

Yeah, focusing on one player is the same as defending the Warriors death lineup, where Igu is the least dangerous scorer. You guys are pathetic at times.
He got plenty of looks even with the Warriors bench on the floor. And he doesn't even need them as he still plays D, can facilitate, and get you extra possessions fighting on the glass. The only pathetic ones tonight were the Spurs FO giving Fatty a loyalty contract when we already have young PG's and TP inevitably coming back.

[TimDunkem]

Yeah, focusing on one player
Thanks for acknowledging we're a one-man team though. :lmao

[TimDunkem]

I'm not even arguing for Iggy. I doubt he even wants to be here, but people pretending like he wouldn't be an upgrade over Green right now are deluding themselves. :lol

[szkorhetz]

Thanks for acknowledging we're a one-man team though. :lmao
It's not even a question.

[TimDunkem]

At least we can agree there. :lol

[timtonymanu]

What a terrible offseason when Iguodala is the best the Spurs can get

[TimDunkem]

What do you mean? We got Patty locked up! :smokin

[ceperez]

What a terrible offseason when Iguodala is the best the Spurs can get

One less weapon for the champs is a good thing. I was hoping someone would else would sign Livingston, but it did not happen.

I can't understand why team aren't poaching GSW for talent. I mean, how did Clark not get picked up last year?

Who knows if there's a conspiracy going on by the teams to keep the revenue up.

[sasaint]

He got plenty of looks even with the Warriors bench on the floor. And he doesn't even need them as he still plays D, can facilitate, and get you extra possessions fighting on the glass. The only pathetic ones tonight were the Spurs FO giving Fatty a loyalty contract when we already have young PG's and TP inevitably coming back.

We STACKED... at PG!

[Yuixafun]

If we land AI... then Blossomgame is on the same team with the 2 guys he comapred himself too, and he can learn from then. This is only the real power move we can make.

Back up for Klaw so he doesn't have to do it all, with savvy champion ver, and hungry rookie in the mold.

Pg position will be alright, with Mills to hold down the fort, anf plenty of minutes for Dj.

Sg is fine too, Dg and Jsimms will keep pushing each other, Manu can go full chill mode and just shower the young guards with nurturing.

LMA altho disgruntled will have a bounce back year, probably cones into camp in shape.

Just waiting on this years Surprise big to fill the gaps.

[picnroll]

Iggy's playing everyone to get the best deal he can from the dubs.

[CGD]

Iggy's playing everyone to get the best deal he can from the dubs.

And we should help bid up the price.

[picnroll]

And we should help bid up the price.
They'll be plenty of teams to do that and it doesn't really matter, just more money going from the GS owner's pocket to others owners' pockets. Dubs will already be in the penalty for years and about 1 1/2 billion. Meanwhile RC wasting time waiting for Iggy, not that it matters he'll end up with crap anyways.

[LkrFan]

Why would he go to San Antonio? He won't start there unless it's at PF. I'll give you $80+M reasons why that ain't happening. And if he does it takes away your size advantage and plays right into the Dubs hands.

This is some CIA Pop shit...can't beat 'em so he tries to sign their best bench player and glue guy. If I'm Iggy, I don't leave the Bay area. I mean, who would want to live in San Antoni:lol?

[picnroll]

They'll be plenty of teams to do that and it doesn't really matter, just more money going from the GS owner's pocket to others owners' pockets. Dubs will already be in the penalty for years and about 1 1/2 billion. Meanwhile RC wasting time waiting for Iggy, not that it matters he'll end up with crap anyways.
Better than shit hole LA. Spent the worst day of my life in that fucking traffic jam.

[still.focused]

Trash

[GSH]

Why would he go to San Antonio? He won't start there unless it's at PF. I'll give you $80+M reasons why that ain't happening. And if he does it takes away your size advantage and plays right into the Dubs hands.

This is some CIA Pop shit...can't beat 'em so he tries to sign their best bench player and glue guy. If I'm Iggy, I don't leave the Bay area. I mean, who would want to live in San Antoni:lol?


Some of that is your usual shtick. But you're right about the importance of Iggy to that team. Losing him wouldn't be a show-stopper, but keeping him makes the team better. I don't know why he would want to bolt to SA, if the Warriors pay him. And they know what he does for them.

I don't think Buford was out there at midnight for any other reason. But I also don't think Iggy was doing anything but applying leverage. If there's a team that the Dubs don't want him going to, it's the Spurs. He's playing poker.

[Keepin' it real]

with kawhi improving and becoming a complete player, we dont need another ball handling wing

What about when Kawhi gets injured again?

[DMC]

Why would he go to San Antonio? He won't start there unless it's at PF. I'll give you $80+M reasons why that ain't happening. And if he does it takes away your size advantage and plays right into the Dubs hands.

This is some CIA Pop shit...can't beat 'em so he tries to sign their best bench player and glue guy. If I'm Iggy, I don't leave the Bay area. I mean, who would want to live in San Antoni:lol?

Most of your relatives.

[LkrFan]

Most of your relatives.

:lol

[LkrFan]

Some of that is your usual shtick. But you're right about the importance of Iggy to that team. Losing him wouldn't be a show-stopper, but keeping him makes the team better. I don't know why he would want to bolt to SA, if the Warriors pay him. And they know what he does for them.

I don't think Buford was out there at midnight for any other reason. But I also don't think Iggy was doing anything but applying leverage. If there's a team that the Dubs don't want him going to, it's the Spurs. He's playing poker.

Where does he get his minutes? You're gonna pay LMA $80+M to sit? What about MVPau? What I see is he would back up Kwame (who will play no less than 35mpg) at SF. As much as this board berates Danny Green, I don't see Iggy supplanting him at starting SG. Your spacing would be all jacked up.

If I'm Iggy, I'd stay putPERIOD.

[Mr. Body]

I see no appeal in San Antonio for Iguodala. Given that they'll low ball him, he'd be better off back in Golden State on a team where he actually has a role.

[DAF86]

Do not want.

[LakerHater]

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[picnroll]

Poor Kawhi having to guard everybody in the West. Good job Pop and RC. :bobo

[BatManu20]

Rockets it is.

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[TimDunkem]

CP3, Gordon, Harden, Iggy, and Capela on the fast break is going to be nice. Can't wait to see them run circles around Fatty, our old guys, and slow-footed bigs. :lmao

[gambit1990]

CP3, Gordon, Harden, Iggy, and Capela on the fast break is going to be nice.

[BillMc]

Rockets it is.

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Perfect. Golden State gets weaker but we don't have to be the ones to pay for it.

[palangi]

Rockets it is.

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I hope so. I'd rather give Early or Gay the shot over Iggy.

[baseline bum]

It would have been nice to have him take Green's spot, but oh well, once they blew money on Mills you knew they weren't doing shit this offseason anyways.

[LakerHater]

Iggy camp saying its Hou or GSW

[spursistan]

Looks like GSW is lowballing him but he still wants to come back while getting taken care of..He is using Houston for leverage but it could reach breaking point with Warriors and he ust agrees to join the former..Spurs have/had no chance..

[Dverde]

Iggy to HOU makes more sense than SA. I think he is leaving.

[picnroll]

McCaw will take Iggy's place. Thanks Milwaukee.

[daslicer]

Looks like GSW is lowballing him but he still wants to come back while getting taken care of..He is using Houston for leverage but it could reach breaking point with Warriors and he ust agrees to join the former..Spurs have/had no chance..

It reminds me of Lamar Odom's situation with the Lakers in '09. Portland offered him a deal around I think it was 4 years 52 mil. The Lakers were low balling him but he didn't want to leave LA and ended up taking I think it was 4 years 40 mil deal. It wouldn't shock me if this happens with Andre.

[daslicer]

McCaw will take Iggy's place. Thanks Milwaukee.

Yes a scrub player that averages 4 points on shitty shooting is definitely someone we should fear.

[TimDunkem]

Yes a scrub player that averages 4 points on shitty shooting is definitely someone we should fear.
That's what people said about Clark who lit us up too. :lol

[picnroll]

Yes a scrub player that averages 4 points on shitty shooting is definitely someone we should fear.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure with or without Iggy GS is quaking in their sneakers facing the Spurs.

[texbound]

Someone explain this if he goes to Houston. The Rockets are currently sitting at 98mil and have no room under the cap. Will he be signed with the MLE? Have to believe GS would give him more than that.

[daslicer]

That's what people said about Clark who lit us up too. :lol

I actually thought Clark was solid. McCaw to me looks like a scrub. Anyways he's a scrub until proven otherwise.

[daslicer]

Yeah. I'm pretty sure with or without Iggy GS is quaking in their sneakers facing the Spurs.

Well they were during the playoffs when they had Iggy. That's why they had Zaza pull off a hit job on Kawhi.

[TimDunkem]

I actually thought Clark was solid. McCaw to me looks like a scrub. Anyways he's a scrub until proven otherwise.
McCaw is solid. Versatile, athletic, has upside. He'll be fine, especially on that team. :lol

[daslicer]

McCaw is solid. Versatile, athletic, has upside. He'll be fine, especially on that team. :lol

From what I have seen he looks like garbage but we'll see whose right.

[raybies]

Right now the most the rockets can offer Iggy is 4/36 or the full MLE. The Spurs could out bid that without moving Green and they'd stay under the cap

[raybies]

Now Houston in trade talks with Cleveland for Shumpert. Maybe they didn't get Iggy

[TimDunkem]

Right now the most the rockets can offer Iggy is 4/36 or the full MLE. The Spurs could out bid that without moving Green and they'd stay under the cap
But, according to Mr.Fat Body, Green is irreplaceable. :lol

[gospursgojas]

Much rather have Gay at a bargain than Iggy at market value.

[GSH]

Yeah, Iguodala cancelled all his meetings... except the one he's having now with the Warriors. :lol


Free agency is so much fun.

Warriors to meet with Andre Iguodala, prepared to offer him a three-year deal, per source wp.me/p7ShJJ-jwtL pic.twitter.com/bs8kWZI3oX

[baseline bum]

Much rather have Gay at a bargain than Iggy at market value.

I don't want a gay with a torn achilles

[raybies]

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[raybies]

Just a thought on how to get Osmand and Iggy. For the Spurs to beat GS offer for Iggy they could trade Green into the trade exception if Houston gets Shumpert. Then you get Osmand back and the needed cap to get Iggy.R

[ceperez]

Gone.... looks like he's going to Houston! http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246664/Andre-Iguodala-Cancels-Remaining-Free-Agent-Meetings

[ducks]

Gs does not want to go in tax

[HarlemHeat37]

He's probably praying that GS pays up and doesn't call his bluff, tbh:lol

[baseline bum]

He's probably praying that GS pays up and doesn't call his bluff, tbh:lol

This.

[LkrFan]

I don't mean to bust your bubble Spur Fan's, but:


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:downspin:

[Kurik]

I don't mean to bust your bubble Spur Fan's, but:


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:downspin:

Old news

[raybies]

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[TimDunkem]

:lmao Don Harris is such a hack. As if SA was pursuing Iggy anyway.

[daslicer]

I don't mean to bust your bubble Spur Fan's, but:


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:downspin:

TBH did not want him. I didn't think he would leave GS unless a team like the Sixers or Kings were stupid to offer him a 4 year 80 mil deal.

[cd98]

Hope they had a nice trip and midnight meeting. If you know you're leverage, why not meet at noon at least.

[EIC]

I would imagine the Spurs are looking to dump Green and sign Iguodala, salary dump Aldridge so they can sign Hill, get Simmons to accept their MLE offer, and bring Gasol and Lee back to be the starting 4/5.

Hill
Leonard
Iguodala
Lee
Gasol

That would be like a bad Country band: "Kawhi Leonard and the Washed-Up All Stars."

[therealtruth]

He's probably praying that GS pays up and doesn't call his bluff, tbh:lol

They're definitely low-balling him. That's Patty Mills money for a Finals MVP.

[Trainwreck2100]

He's probably praying that GS pays up and doesn't call his bluff, tbh:lol

:lol he was gonna use the spurs but then the paul trade happened so he just had to leverage houston instead. And yes GS gonna call his bluff.

[Uriel]

Is it really such good news if Iguodala goes to Houston over Golden State? Between adding Chris Paul and Iguodala, that would catapult the Rockets ahead of the Spurs as the 2nd best team in the West.

[timtonymanu]

Is it really such good news if Iguodala goes to Houston over Golden State? Between adding Chris Paul and Iguodala, that would catapult the Rockets ahead of the Spurs.

The Rockets are already ahead of the Spurs without him, tbh.

[dabom]

The Rockets are already ahead of the Spurs without him, tbh.

Spurs without Kawhi > Rockets with haren

Spurs with Kawhi > Rockets with haren and cpeepee.

[TimDunkem]

Until they pick and roll Softus and Gasol to death. :lol

[SAGirl]

https881283367387500544 In that case, I don't fault RC.. he could see that Spurs were leverage and wanted no part of that.

[rastaspur]

In that case, I don't fault RC.. he could see that Spurs were leverage and wanted no part of that.

Don't give him too much credit though.

That would be like a guy at a strip club getting props for not believing that the stripper is actually interested in him. It is more akin to basic sense than an accomplishment

Most drunks at a strip club know the stripper isn't interested in him, despite the attention, sweet talk and flirting. Most drunks know the stripper just wants that paper.

[SpursforSix]

Hill
Leonard
Iguodala
Lee
Gasol

That would be like a bad Country band: "Kawhi Leonard and the Washed-Up All Stars."

Do you mean...

"Kawhi Leonard and the Washed Up All Stars plus George Hill"

[Atl Spur]

The Rockets are already ahead of the Spurs without him, tbh.

Really? Wow so disrespectful! TEAMS and COHESION beats names.

[EIC]

Do you mean...

"Kawhi Leonard and the Washed Up All Stars plus George Hill"

Yes, but that doesn't roll off the tongue as well. I sacrificed accuracy for impact. Maybe:

Kawhi Leonard and the Washed-Up All Stars (feat. George Hill).

[SpursforSix]

Yes, but that doesn't roll off the tongue as well. I sacrificed accuracy for impact. Maybe:

Kawhi Leonard and the Washed-Up All Stars (feat. George Hill).

lol. I almost posted that exactly but it didn't seem quite as clear that Hill was never an All Star.

[noles1983]

Is it really such good news if Iguodala goes to Houston over Golden State? Between adding Chris Paul and Iguodala, that would catapult the Rockets ahead of the Spurs as the 2nd best team in the West.

They are already ahead, Spurs 3rd at best.

[playbonner15]

:lol he was gonna use the spurs but then the paul trade happened so he just had to leverage houston instead. And yes GS gonna call his bluff.
This made so much sense. Players are now saying payup or theyll go to HOU

[SpurOutofTownFan]

dont know what Iguodala was trying to play here other than leverage but I bet from the Spurs side the meeting was just to get the Warriors to pay more money than needed for him. Huge Pop CIA move

[dylankerouac]

Would rather RC does something to drive Iggys price up, like he did, then not. GS gets to keep their team but at the expense of pay practically paying for the trophy.

[GSH]

Reading a couple of stories that what Iggy wanted all along was three fully-guaranteed years from GSW, and they offered it to him. Don't know if it's true, or if it's the whole story, but it makes sense.

[bklynspursfan]

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[AFBlue]

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Inevitable. When Woj said the interest to meet with the Spurs was coming from Iggy's camp, you kind of figured it was a leverage play.

[cjw]

Good for him - 33 so could be useful for full three years or hit a wall. A risk worth taking by Warriors.

[GSH]

Well you guys made that article I had posted unnecessary. :lol

Biggest story made from a non-issue this offseason. At least he hogged up some of the Dubs future cap space.

[spurs10]

How can GSW pay two players, Curry and Iggy, over 56 million. I doubt seriously if Thompson, Durant, and Donkey are playing for peanuts. Is their payroll 250 million?

[ducks]

Would rather RC does something to drive Iggys price up, like he did, then not. GS gets to keep their team but at the expense of pay practically paying for the trophy.

Spurs had an offer

[GSH]

Spurs had an offer


Here, I might as well post the article anyway. This explains what each of the three teams could offer, and what the Spurs would have had to do to try and get close to GSW's offer. You can see that there was no real mystery about where he was going to wind up, unless the Dubs just decided they didn't want him.

http://thesportsdaily.com/project-spurs/spurs-free-agency-rumors-day-2/

[E20]

No one wants to play for SA believe it or not but market and city play a way bigger role than winning. Plus as Game of Zones puts it you have to sacrifice your identity and individual game to fit the system which is a huge another huge turnoff

[sasaint]

How can GSW pay two players, Curry and Iggy, over 56 million. I doubt seriously if Thompson, Durant, and Donkey are playing for peanuts. Is their payroll 250 million?

The NBA's "salary cap"! :lmao

[Budkin]

Spurs lose out again per par.

[Russ]

So where is Rudy Gay going now?

[spurs10]

The NBA's "salary cap"! :lmao Yeah that oft talked about 'parity!'

[Budkin]

So where is Rudy Gay going now?

Dubs will still find a way to sign him tbh

[spursistan]

Warriors overpaid him, IMO..No way Spurs offer was close to that (3-year/$48M)..

[daslicer]

How can GSW pay two players, Curry and Iggy, over 56 million. I doubt seriously if Thompson, Durant, and Donkey are playing for peanuts. Is their payroll 250 million?

Their owner doesn't care about the luxury tax. He's all in it to win it right now. One thing that will eventually handicap them is they won't be able to add depth due to being over the cap.

[Russ]

So where is Rudy Gay going now?

:flag:

[tholdren]

No one wants to play for SA believe it or not but market and city play a way bigger role than winning. Plus as Game of Zones puts it you have to sacrifice your identity and individual game to fit the system which is a huge another huge turnoff

Yes many players hate 20 plus years of excellence. You can tell the nba is a place full of college dropouts. Not many brain cells in the league

[spursistan]

Bump..

Well I'm glad he took a pass on us (Rockets probably feel the same). Warriors may have handed out their first loyalty contract here. Iggy has looked washed up this season and still on books for 16 millions in 2019 and 2020.

You shouldn't be making that kind of money at age 34 while averaging 5/3/3..

[DAF86]

Igoudala is about to decline hard any minute now. Do not want.

I try to be wrong sometimes, but it's hard for me.

[daslicer]

I try to be wrong sometimes, but it's hard for me.

Statistically he's have his worst year since his rookie year. Hopefully his decline continues to be rapid.

[daslicer]

Bump..

Well I'm glad he took a pass on us (Rockets probably feel the same). Warriors may have handed out their first loyalty contract here. Iggy has looked washed up this season and still on books for 16 millions in 2019 and 2020.

You shouldn't be making that kind of money at age 34 while averaging 5/3/3..

Agreed but I think they overpaid him mainly because they viewed him as insurance against Lebron and Kawhi. He's the only guy they have on their team that can defend either but yeah it was a bad decision by them.

[spursistan]

Agreed but I think they overpaid him mainly because they viewed him as insurance against Lebron and Kawhi. He's the only guy they have on their team that can defend either but yeah it was a bad decision by them.
Honestly Durant has overtaken him as their best wing defender. Going to look like an ugly overpay in Year 2 and 3..


I try to be wrong sometimes, but it's hard for me.

Not sure, this seems like an easy call :lol Spurs and Rockets were pursuing him probably out of spite-- to weaken Golden State more so than strengthen their teams..

[DAF86]

Rudy Gay anyone?

:wow

[SAGirl]

Bump..

Well I'm glad he took a pass on us (Rockets probably feel the same). Warriors may have handed out their first loyalty contract here. Iggy has looked washed up this season and still on books for 16 millions in 2019 and 2020.

You shouldn't be making that kind of money at age 34 while averaging 5/3/3..

yup... I noticed he's washed up you know what?
Kyle age 24 is ranked 7th this season in RPM in the SF category which he has played all season and against starter competition. There is no saying he statpads in garbage time bc dude just doesn't play garbage time anymore like that. Kyle's playing in a depleted team with only a single all star. They have lacked quality playmakers/guards too.

Iguodala, age 34 averaging 5/3/3 playing in a stacked mothefucker of a team, playing a good amount of time against reserves and getting it really easy with that team... has ranked 43 in SF this year in RPM... see for yourself. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/5

that was their own albatross and loyalty contract.

[r0drig0lac]

Agreed but I think they overpaid him mainly because they viewed him as insurance against Lebron and Kawhi. He's the only guy they have on their team that can defend either but yeah it was a bad decision by them.

Can Iguodala defend Kawhi? this would be news to me, Kawhi always seems to do what he wants against any defender in gsw

[daslicer]

Can Iguodala defend Kawhi? this would be news to me, Kawhi always seems to do what he wants against any defender in gsw

He can't stop Kawhi or Lebron but in the past he gave the Warriors their best defensive option against those guys.

[Keepin' it real]

Can Iguodala defend Kawhi? this would be news to me, Kawhi always seems to do what he wants against any defender in gsw

Care to amend your statement?

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/sjm-warriors-0420-205.jpg?w=468

[r0drig0lac]

Care to amend your statement?

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/sjm-warriors-0420-205.jpg?w=468

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[bic50]

Care to amend your statement?

https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/sjm-warriors-0420-205.jpg?w=468
But was what Zaza did to kl be considered "defended"?

[spurraider21]

moving green to make room for iggy would be awful
heyoo

[ViceCity86]

First big mistake this Warriors team has made. They should of let him walked, developed McCaw while giving him more minutes. Plus they have to pay Green and Thompson new Cba money like Curry and Durant when there contracts are up. Solid small moves in getting Young and Caspi.

Watched Warriors Knicks game last night and Michael Beasley ate Iggy’s lunch. Routinely beat him offf the dribble with ease. Scored at will when matched up with him.

[spursistan]

yup... I noticed he's washed up you know what?
Kyle age 24 is ranked 7th this season in RPM in the SF category which he has played all season and against starter competition. There is no saying he statpads in garbage time bc dude just doesn't play garbage time anymore like that. Kyle's playing in a depleted team with only a single all star. They have lacked quality playmakers/guards too.

Iguodala, age 34 averaging 5/3/3 playing in a stacked mothefucker of a team, playing a good amount of time against reserves and getting it really easy with that team... has ranked 43 in SF this year in RPM... see for yourself. http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/5

that was their own albatross and loyalty contract.

Yeah, like someone said here..This is perhaps first major mistake from Warriors PO in the last half decade.

Saw this on twitter..The Rockets should be really happy he turned them down and instead got better contribution from Mbah Mboute for the minimum..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUw5U-4VwAAdbwx.jpg

[spurraider21]

i'd still trust iggy in a bit spot in the playoffs, tho

[timvp]

Bump.




In hindsight, it looks like it was a good idea to go after him. Plenty in the tank defensively. Glue guy offensively. Impacts games without needing the ball.

As well as Gay has recovered from his achilles tear and as well as his transition to efficient role player has gone, Iguodala is better if your goal is to win playoff games, tbh.

[timtonymanu]

He was never leaving Golden State though. Would have been the ideal vet to have and not Faux Mills.

[Chinook]

I really wanted Iggy back in the day the year before GS originally traded for him. They had Jack's expiring contract and everything. It would have involved letting Manu walk, and obviously 2014 wouldn't have been the same without him. It would have also made it much harder to fit Aldridge into the roster during the summer of 2015, but I think the Spurs would have repeated in 2013 and 2014, and they'd have a good chance in 2015 too given that Iggy would never have been a Warrior.

Parker, Neal, Joseph
Green, Ginobili, Mills
Leonard, Iguodala, De Colo
Duncan, Diaw, Blair
Splitter, Baynes, Bonner

Damned good roster. The passing potential for that second unit would have been insane. Seeing as the Spurs ended up pissing away their first on LJC that year and Milutinov in 2015, even adding two firsts to Jack's deal would have been worth it in hindsight.

[R. DeMurre]

I see Derrick White potentially as a prime Iguodala type player-- I don't think he'll ever have a single eye-popping stat, but he could be a 15/5/5 type of guy who plays good D, has a high BBIQ, and is a complete glue player. There's no team that can't use guys like that, and if you have a few, you're in really good shape.

[99 Problems]

Incredible playoff guy. The longer his twilight yrs run the less we hear from those complaining about the FMVP tbh...
Plus they’re going to have to pay Klaymond the max to keep him tbh.

[R. DeMurre]

Incredible playoff guy. The longer his twilight yrs run the less we hear from those complaining about the FMVP tbh...


It's funny how just slowing playoff LeBron down in his prime led to two guys getting FMVPs. He probably should've gotten both of those-- like Jerry West, despite losing-- but conventional wisdom wants to award the winning team with the MVP.

[sananspursfan21]

He looks Robert Horry esque in the fact that he knows how to turn it on in the playoffs (my ONLY comparison of the two). He definitely underwhelms in the regular season but when the playoff lights come on, he’s a whole different animal

[Capt Bringdown]

The Warriors are better off with Iggy than Cousins in this championship run, I mean cake walk.