Give your best/ most realistic LaMarcus trade proposals.

[cd98]

Spurs need to keep LMA, but motivate him to get in shape this offseason. He looked overweight all year.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Why do people think LA was a good rebounder?

Aldridge was actually terrible rebounding last year. Out of the bigs, he was last on the team in contested rebound % -- most of the boards he did grab were uncontested.

Is this some eye test shit throwing again?

LMA had the most contested rebounds on the team and at a very respectable 39.5%.

For comparison - contested rebounds % for top 5 rebounders :
H.Whiteside - 41.4%
A.Drummond - 42.7%
D.Jordan - 39.0%
R.Gobert - 38.5%
D.Howard - 39.9%
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Bonus : D.Cousins - 32.6% :lmao

Also, note that Aldridge's average rebounding distance is much much higher than any of these, meaning he actually contests shots, instead of turning his back on the shooter and going after the rebound.

Seriously, Aldridge wasn't great last season, but the hate for him is getting ridiculous to the point of throwing bullshit made up stats just for the sake of hating.

[MaNu4Tres]

Is this some eye test shit throwing again?

LMA had the most contested rebounds on the team and at a very respectable 39.5%.

For comparison - contested rebounds % for top 5 rebounders :
H.Whiteside - 41.4%
A.Drummond - 42.7%
D.Jordan - 39.0%
R.Gobert - 38.5%
D.Howard - 39.9%
---------------------
Bonus : D.Cousins - 32.6% :lmao

Also, note that Aldridge's average rebounding distance is much much higher than any of these, meaning he actually contests shots, instead of turning his back on the shooter and going after the rebound.

Seriously, Aldridge wasn't great last season, but the hate for him is getting ridiculous to the point of throwing bullshit made up stats just for the sake of hating.

Nah it wasn't. I kept up with the stats all year, LA was last of the top 5 bigs in the statistic for the first 3 quarters of the season.

I guess w/ Pau's reduced role, and Dedmons regression the last quarter of season, Aldridge leaped over those two.

My mistake.

Anyway, Aldridge is overrated and isn't a winner. Glad he will be gone sometime in the next 11 months.

[picnroll]

Is Aldridge's house still on the market? Anyone have a room to rent?

[sasaint]

Is Aldridge's house still on the market? Anyone have a room to rent?

Not even for his shoes.

[sananspursfan21]

It seemed like when LMA came over here, he became good at what he wasn't known for and bad at everything people liked about him. In his time here, he has improved his rim protection (eye test anyway). He's not horrible, just not as the #2 guy here in SA. If his fragile ego could be salvaged and could see himself as a role player, it wouldn't kill me as a fan to see him stay a spur

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Aldridge isn't going to do jack shit to improve anything. Never has a Spur so blatantly disrespected the franchise out in the open as Aldridge has. And people are talking about him getting in shape and working on some things? I'll honestly be surprised if he shows up to training camp, that's going to be a VERY awkward training camp.


Spurs sadly won't get anything of value in return for LMA, and for a team that isn't getting any younger and desperately needs a second go to man to help Kawhi this is the worst offseason imaginable.


Virtually everyone out West has improved while the Spurs took a step back. LMA being a drama queen and killing his value for trades has really hurt this team along with a bumbling front office from this summer.

[sasaint]

It seemed like when LMA came over here, he became good at what he wasn't known for and bad at everything people liked about him. In his time here, he has improved his rim protection (eye test anyway). He's not horrible, just not as the #2 guy here in SA. If his fragile ego could be salvaged and could see himself as a role player, it wouldn't kill me as a fan to see him stay a spur

We need a good #2. Who you got in mind?

[xellos88330]

Washing machine and Tide detergent so we can clean up the mess he made here.

[JuneJive]

For all we know, he could be trolling us. The social media and taking the house of the market stuff...

Until shit gets done ( trade ) we can guess all we want.

And it ain't an educated guess.

[rastaspur]

Spurs send LMA to Utah.
Utah sends Diaw and Favors to Spurs.

That would technically be considered a double favor trade and may not be allowed under cba rules. Would be doing the spurs a favor to give us favors.

[sasaint]

That would technically be considered a double favor trade and may not be allowed under cba rules. Would be doing the spurs a favor to give us favors.

The deal is, all 3 have one year left. So, which players are more likely to re-up with which team?

[Chinook]

That would technically be considered a double favor trade and may not be allowed under cba rules. Would be doing the spurs a favor to give us favors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMjR07bxthg

[palangi]

Spurs send LMA to Utah.
Utah sends Diaw and Favors to Spurs.

Instead of Diaw send Alec Burk

[sasaint]

Instead of Diaw send Alec Burk

Don't think they go for that without sweetener - not sweetnlow either.

[sananspursfan21]

We need a good #2. Who you got in mind?

Gotta be a scorer. We don't have enough of those. I'd be willing to sacrifice some defense for scoring as well. This might sound crazy, but I think Frank Kaminsky could be mentored and developed. He's got a nice jumper, 7'0, and can stretch the floor. He's an American white guy I know, but an off the wall thought is that he could be Kawhi's scoring sidekick

[sasaint]

Gotta be a scorer. We don't have enough of those. I'd be willing to sacrifice some defense for scoring as well. This might sound crazy, but I think Frank Kaminsky could be mentored and developed. He's got a nice jumper, 7'0, and can stretch the floor. He's an American white guy I know, but an off the wall thought is that he could be Kawhi's scoring sidekick

I can only say that you took my breath away. Sounds crazy, all right. I agree with that.

I was thinking more along the lines of "(heaven forbid) we keep LMA..." Surely we wouldn't want another big as the #2 guy.

[rastaspur]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMjR07bxthg

:lol

:toast

[sananspursfan21]

I can only say that you took my breath away. Sounds crazy, all right. I agree with that.

I was thinking more along the lines of "(heaven forbid) we keep LMA..." Surely we wouldn't want another big as the #2 guy.

Haha! Well with money and realism in mind, you gotta think outside the box. He's an outside the box player that I'd love to take a flyer on. Can't think of too many players the Spurs realistically could poach right now. One of the many lousy parts about this "super team arms race", not a ton of options

[Big Empty]

La Marcus for Bradley and Crowder

[sasaint]

La Marcus for Bradley and Crowder

RC would win exec of the year.

[sasaint]

Haha! Well with money and realism in mind, you gotta think outside the box. He's an outside the box player that I'd love to take a flyer on. Can't think of too many players the Spurs realistically could poach right now. One of the many lousy parts about this "super team arms race", not a ton of options

But you don't want to keep LMA and add Frank the Tank, do you?

[sananspursfan21]

But you don't want to keep LMA and add Frank the Tank, do you?

No, for Frank Kaminsky I'd rather see LMA gone. Maybe package around Kaminsky for a trade? Charlotte might welcome him alongside D12?

[sananspursfan21]

But you don't want to keep LMA and add Frank the Tank, do you?

Again, if we're being weird, creative, and just spitballing

[SouthTexasRancher]

These trades work 'BUT' neither Memphis, New Orleans nor New York would ever do any of these deals.

LMA + Dejounte Murray to Memphis for Marc Gasol

LMA + Kyle Anderson to New Orleans for Anthony Davis.

LMA + Kyle Anderson + (either) Bryn Forbes 'OR' Dejounte Murray to New York for Carmelo Anthony

Nice to dream but, the GM's, owners and coaches would shoot Pop and RC for even bringing these trades up. If only powder puff LMA would have kept his mouth shut. Now we can only hope that LMA busts his fat ass this upcoming season to convince coaches and GM's around the league that he isn't washed up and can still play the game at a high level. :toast

[Chinook]

These trades work 'BUT' neither Memphis, New Orleans nor New York would ever do any of these deals.

LMA + Dejounte Murray to Memphis for Marx Gasol

I'm sure Pop would love to add the third, much more political Gasol brother.

[SouthTexasRancher]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by SouthTexasRancher (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=9079972#post9079972)
These trades work 'BUT' neither Memphis, New Orleans nor New York would ever do any of these deals.

LMA + Dejounte Murray to Memphis for Marx Gasol



"I'm sure Pop would love to add the third, much more political Gasol brother."
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No doubt. I'd go for it in a heartbeat. The Spurs organization top to bottom would go for it. I just wish Memphis would go for it.

[MaNu4Tres]

LA + White + Milutinov + 18' 1st to Detroit for Andre Drummond?

Drummond had a down year and people are questioning his work ethic in Detroit -- which I'm not too thrilled about. However, he is only 23 years old and could use a change of scenery. I'd value his skillset and his age over LA in a heartbeat.

This deal would replenish Detroit w/ 2 assets moving forward and it would clear Drummonds deal off the books.

[sasaint]

LA + White + Milutinov + 18' 1st to Detroit for Andre Drummond?

Drummond had a down year and people are questioning his work ethic in Detroit -- which I'm not too thrilled about. However, he is only 23 years old and could use a change of scenery. I'd value his skillset and his age over LA in a heartbeat.

This deal would replenish Detroit w/ 2 assets moving forward and it would clear Drummonds deal off the books.

I don't think Detroit values Drummond as highly as all that. I think you are overpaying by either White, or a #1 or possibly both. I am not a Drummond fan, but I think you are right; he might benefit from a change of scenery. But the guy is as bad as Dwight or DJordan from the line. That's why Detroit went with Baynes a lot in crunch time.

[Chillen]

The only way the Grizz would trade Marc Gasol to Spurs is to piss the Warriors off, otherwise he probably gets traded to an Eastern Conference team.

[MaNu4Tres]

I don't think Detroit values Drummond as highly as all that. I think you are overpaying by either White, or a #1 or possibly both. I am not a Drummond fan, but I think you are right; he might benefit from a change of scenery. But the guy is as bad as Dwight or DJordan from the line. That's why Detroit went with Baynes a lot in crunch time.

I don't like his FT shooting either, but maybe Chip can help a little bit? Like his positives and his age, but let's be real here.... Will the Spurs be able to sign somewhere better than 23-24 yr old Drummond next summer ( he'd essentially be their FA addition next summer)? I highly highly doubt it. Every player seems to have warts except the top 5-10 players in the NBA, are we going to just wait around and be picky and pray to get another top 5-10 player the next 2-3 years?

[tholdren]

LA + White + Milutinov + 18' 1st to Detroit for Andre Drummond?

Drummond had a down year and people are questioning his work ethic in Detroit -- which I'm not too thrilled about. However, he is only 23 years old and could use a change of scenery. I'd value his skillset and his age over LA in a heartbeat.

This deal would replenish Detroit w/ 2 assets moving forward and it would clear Drummonds deal off the books.

Overpaying. Lma and drummond are about equal. Id throw in milutinov, but not white or any 1sr rder.

[sasaint]

I don't like his FT shooting either, but maybe Chip can help a little bit? Like his positives and his age, but let's be real here.... Will the Spurs be able to sign somewhere better than 23-24 yr old Drummond next summer ( he'd essentially be their FA addition next summer)? I highly highly doubt it. Every player seems to have warts except the top 5-10 players in the NBA, are we going to just wait around and be picky and pray to get another top 5-10 player the next 2-3 years?

I liked the idea of offering LMA to Utah for Favors and Diaw - all 3 on expiring contracts. Start there, then throw in Hanlan (:lol) if you have to.

[MaNu4Tres]

I liked the idea of offering LMA to Utah for Favors and Diaw - all 3 on expiring contracts. Start there, then throw in Hanlan (:lol) if you have to.

I'd take that as well, but I'd want Utah to throw in a 2nd rounder since they are getting the better 1 yr rental.

I'd do LA + Militunov straight up for Drummond if that works.

[alpha_HaZE]

Is this some eye test shit throwing again?

LMA had the most contested rebounds on the team and at a very respectable 39.5%.

For comparison - contested rebounds % for top 5 rebounders :
H.Whiteside - 41.4%
A.Drummond - 42.7%
D.Jordan - 39.0%
R.Gobert - 38.5%
D.Howard - 39.9%
---------------------
Bonus : D.Cousins - 32.6% :lmao

Also, note that Aldridge's average rebounding distance is much much higher than any of these, meaning he actually contests shots, instead of turning his back on the shooter and going after the rebound.

Seriously, Aldridge wasn't great last season, but the hate for him is getting ridiculous to the point of throwing bullshit made up stats just for the sake of hating.

This! That's some good data that you have there :)

I have been saying it for quite some time, Lamarcus has been pretty solid as a second guy for us.

[skulls138]

Just needs to stop settling for turnaround jumpers. Open jumpers? Take them all day long but if youre going to post up, back your man down and do a hook or layup or pass when doubled. More rebs too, despite the stats.

[TheDoctor]

Just needs to stop settling for turnaround jumpers. Open jumpers? Take them all day long but if youre going to post up, back your man down and do a hook or layup or pass when doubled. More rebs too, despite the stats.

That's just not him. LMA can't back down players specially if they're smaller/quicker than him because he can't dribble near the paint to save his life. He gets nervous when he's double teamed.

[tholdren]

This! That's some good data that you have there :)

I have been saying it for quite some time, Lamarcus has been pretty solid as a second guy for us.

How subjective is contested rebound though?

[SAGirl]

Spurs send LMA to Utah.
Utah sends Diaw and Favors to Spurs.

I'll take that.
I hope Favors can be healthy.
Diaw might be good for some games, if he's slacking, play the young guys.

[SouthTexasRancher]

The only way the Grizz would trade Marc Gasol to Spurs is to piss the Warriors off, otherwise he probably gets traded to an Eastern Conference team.

I'm all for pissing off GSW. C'mon Memphis, you know you need LMA. Besides it would be the right thing to do, letting Marc and Pau win an NBA Championship as teammates.

[tbdog]

I'll take that.
I hope Favors can be healthy.
Diaw might be good for some games, if he's slacking, play the young guys.

Get Crowder instead of Diaw in a 3 way deal.

[SAGirl]

Get Crowder instead of Diaw in a 3 way deal.

:tu nice!

[alpha_HaZE]

Ppl don't understand it isn't just about LA throwing a fit...it bleeds it's way onto the court with his very obvious lack of heart and hustle...and this was LAST year before him being disgruntled was public...he NEEDS to go

I don't think he just realized that the Spurs are giving up on him as a threat on the post, and are moving towards the beautiful game, and he won't be getting his touches anymore and is requesting to be traded.

[sasaint]

Get Crowder instead of Diaw in a 3 way deal.

I don't think the Celts are willing to take back any salary unless it is Hayward's. They are moving Crowder to make cap space for him.

[tbdog]

I don't think the Celts are willing to take back any salary unless it is Hayward's. They are moving Crowder to make cap space for him.

Exactly. They probably just want a pick.

[Raven]

i'd get gasol and manu back... it would basically be the same team that was able to stand toe to toe with the warriors + gay + more experienced anderson and murray

[Raven]

Get Crowder instead of Diaw in a 3 way deal.

yes, we need some of the worst contracts in the league to be better

[Ice009]

yes, we need some of the worst contracts in the league to be better

Crowder's a bad contract?

[Raven]

Crowder's a bad contract?

no, i take it back. miss took it for demarre carroll...

[ceperez]

I'll take that.
I hope Favors can be healthy.
Diaw might be good for some games, if he's slacking, play the young guys.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865684219/Now-that-Hayward-has-left-the-Jazz-will-have-to-get-creative-to-replace-him.html

Looks like Jazz may not pick up Boris team option.

Favors might be traded.

The deal looks good to me.


Speaking about the most interesting man in the NBA, here is Boris with the French commandos:

https://www.slcdunk.com/2017/6/24/15868740/boris-diaw-french-navy-commando-utah-jazz-nba-free-agency-rumors-trades-san-antonio-spurs

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/GioP61Qc1qbsAuG-_uN9vDnA5nA=/0x0:1568x1166/920x613/filters:focal(63x484:313x734):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/55430533/Screen_Shot_2017_06_24_at_2.41.36_PM.0.png

[Ice009]

How much was Diaw supposed to be making? Was he still on his Spurs contract?

[Thomas82]

LA + White + Milutinov + 18' 1st to Detroit for Andre Drummond?

Drummond had a down year and people are questioning his work ethic in Detroit -- which I'm not too thrilled about. However, he is only 23 years old and could use a change of scenery. I'd value his skillset and his age over LA in a heartbeat.

This deal would replenish Detroit w/ 2 assets moving forward and it would clear Drummonds deal off the books.

I would do this deal, but keep the 1st round pick.