FiveThirtyEight Carmelo Projections

[Play Boban]

Interesting.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/manu-ginobili/ (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/manu-ginobili/)

40-year old Manu Category: "Key Role Player"
40-year old Manu 5-Year Market Value: $10.9 million

:wow

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/tony-parker/ (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/tony-parker/)

35-year old Porker Category: "Way Past His Prime"
35-year old Porker 5-Year Market Value: -$5.0 million

:lol

[dabom]

Could not find porker or fathead.

[dabom]

Kawhi - 275 mil over 5 year projection.

[Play Boban]

Kawhi - 275 mil over 5 year projection.
LA - Average Starter. :lmao

[dabom]

People used to be mad when Kawhi was getting that max contract. :lol

[SAGirl]

Kyle Anderson: up and comer, 5 year value $66 mill
Davis Bertans: rotation player, 5 year value $41 mill
Jon Simmons: defensive specialist, 5 year value $ 5.6 mill (hmmm potential overpayment)
Patty Mills: rotation player, 5 year value: $36.8 mill
Dejounte Murray: project, 5 year value: $18.7 mill (could change so quickly bc he's about to turn 21 years old... still so young and a hard worker)
Derrick White: marginal prospect :wow: 5 year value: $4.2 mill
Blossomgame: marginal prospect :wow: 5 year value: $-1.4 mill :lol
Bryn Forbes: project, 5 year value: $3.8 mill
Lamarcus Aldridge: average starter :wow : 5 year value: $ 44 mill :depressedless than KA and around Davis 5 folks! plus expected to decline.
Danny Green: key role player: 5 year value: $59.6 mill :toast higher than Aldridge, although expected to decline.

Very interesting forecasts. obviously younger players are difficult to forecast. they can make leaps in development that these algorithms can't individually account for I imagine.

[Seventyniner]

Kawhi - 275 mil over 5 year projection.

I'm not surprised at this. True superstars far outperform even maximum contracts. LeBron James has been the biggest case in point.

[Nathan89]

So it should be easy to replace LMA's value next year.

[lilbthebasedgod]

Lamarcus is one of the leagues best defenders and scores with pretty good efficiency and isn't a HUGE black hole on O or anything.

What is their algorithm for this? I know its a modified ELO but details are needed

[SAGirl]

So it should be easy to replace LMA's value next year.

IMO... they need to move in a different direction, a different PF.
I don't know if ppl witnessed the same thing I did:
guys played worse with Lamarcus, he made everyone worse.

[HarlemHeat37]

Lamarcus is one of the leagues best defenders and scores with pretty good efficiency and isn't a HUGE black hole on O or anything.

What is their algorithm for this? I know its a modified ELO but details are needed

He's one of the least efficient high-usage offensive players in the NBA, bro:lol

[noles1983]

Kyle Anderson: up and comer, 5 year value $66 mill.

Up and comer :lol Only thing going up with him is his forehead.

[SAGirl]

Up and comer :lol Only thing going up with him is his forehead.

:lol disagree. He was kept in the deep bench tbh.
difficult to be impactful if he doesn't play regularly.. not even veterans can deal like that. everyone needs to play to get rythm confidence etc. He showed up in the playoffs... but you are free to hate... free country so long as Trump allows it I bet lol

[Play Boban]

I can't believe Porker has negative value! :downspin:

[SAGirl]

Interesting..
Boris Diaw:
Way Past his Prime, 5 yr value: -$3.6 mill

[lilbthebasedgod]

He's one of the least efficient high-usage offensive players in the NBA, bro:lol
According to what stat?

[rastaspur]

Lamarcus is one of the leagues best defenders and scores with pretty good efficiency and isn't a HUGE black hole on O or anything.

What is their algorithm for this? I know its a modified ELO but details are needed

What up LMA. Good to see you on here, bro.

I will sell you my balls for 25% of your salary next year. Let me know if interested.

Sincerely,

Rastaspur

[Chinook]

Kyle highest on that list. Boss.

[SAGirl]

Kyle highest on that list. Boss.

:lmao
highest in PER and Winshares in the playoffs too after Kiwi who was in super saiyan mode...

Pop keeping that boy down. l:lol He's paying his dues... /sigh

in reality should be playing more... too good to be 11-13 in some roster.

[HarlemHeat37]

According to what stat?

53% TS on high usage and poor passing numbers..

[steeledl]

What will Kawhi's contract look like when he opts out after next year? Not sure what to expect.

[Hoops Czar]

:lmao
highest in PER and Winshares in the playoffs too after Kiwi who was in super saiyan mode...

Pop keeping that boy down. l:lol He's paying his dues... /sigh

in reality should be playing more... too good to be 11-13 in some roster.
Didn't raise the level of the players around him. Isn't that kind of his role? But yeah, he got his number. Kudos to det Summer league MVP

[rastaspur]

:lmao
highest in PER and Winshares in the playoffs too after Kiwi who was in super saiyan mode...

Pop keeping that boy down. l:lol He's paying his dues... /sigh

in reality should be playing more... too good to be 11-13 in some roster.

Kyle should put you on his payroll as is hypewoman/assistant.

Loyalty is hard to find nowadays.

[SAGirl]

Kyle should put you on his payroll as is hypewoman/assistant.

Loyalty is hard to find nowadays.

:lol:toast

I genuinely like the player but guys here get ruffled so quickly too. :flag:He's not the only player I like, but he's the one everyone hates so I stand out i guess.

[DeRozan m8]

Kyle Anderson: up and comer, 5 year value $66 mill
Davis Bertans: rotation player, 5 year value $41 mill
Jon Simmons: defensive specialist, 5 year value $ 5.6 mill (hmmm potential overpayment)
Patty Mills: rotation player, 5 year value: $36.8 mill
Dejounte Murray: project, 5 year value: $18.7 mill (could change so quickly bc he's about to turn 21 years old... still so young and a hard worker)
Derrick White: marginal prospect :wow: 5 year value: $4.2 mill
Blossomgame: marginal prospect :wow: 5 year value: $-1.4 mill :lol
Bryn Forbes: project, 5 year value: $3.8 mill
Lamarcus Aldridge: average starter :wow : 5 year value: $ 44 mill :depressedless than KA and around Davis 5 folks! plus expected to decline.
Danny Green: key role player: 5 year value: $59.6 mill :toast higher than Aldridge, although expected to decline.

Very interesting forecasts. obviously younger players are difficult to forecast. they can make leaps in development that these algorithms can't individually account for I imagine.

Lmfao this site is garbage

I don't want to live in a world where the spurs pay Kyle 66m

[Russ]

The real fun here is to apply 538's analysis to potential free agent acquisitions. For example:

George Hill
Category: KEY ROLE PLAYER
5-yr market value: $59.1m

Derrick Rose
Category: OFFENSIVE SPECIALIST
5-yr market value: -$6.9m

JJ Redick
Category: ROTATION PLAYER
5-yr market value: $13.4m

Jrue Holiday
Category: AVERAGE STARTER
5-yr market value: $87.0m

[MaNu4Tres]

I agree with a lot of these projections lol. Lmao at TP

Played poker against Nate Silver. Awkward dude but very intelligent tbh

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Lmfao this site is garbage


November 8, 2016 would purport to agree

[cd021]

Lmfao this site is garbage

I don't want to live in a world where the spurs pay Kyle 66m

He won't make that much. He may not even be an every game rotation player, depending on whether Simmons and Manu returns.

It's a forecast based on prior performance.

He might not get half of that in RFA after next season, which might mean that his next contract may end up being a steal.

[look_at_g_shred]

The real fun here is to apply 538's analysis to potential free agent acquisitions. For example:

George Hill
Category: KEY ROLE PLAYER
5-yr market value: $59.1m

Derrick Rose
Category: OFFENSIVE SPECIALIST
5-yr market value: -$6.9m

JJ Redick
Category: ROTATION PLAYER
5-yr market value: $13.4m

Jrue Holiday
Category: AVERAGE STARTER
5-yr market value: $87.0m
11 MILL for hill isn't terrible

[look_at_g_shred]

I'm warming up to the idea of Rose. Thinkin bout it and I believe he can give GSW fits. Namely Curry.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Lmfao this site is garbage

I don't want to live in a world where the spurs pay Kyle 66m

That site is pretty far from garbage, tbh.


I'm warming up to the idea of Rose. Thinkin bout it and I believe he can give GSW fits. Namely Curry.

If he could stay healthy..

[TheGreatYacht]

Lmfao this site is garbage

I don't want to live in a world where the spurs pay Kyle 66m
:lmao advanced stats nerds/dweebs are about to get triggered

[Drom John]

Ricky Rubio $141.1M
Kyle Lowry $183.5M
Paul Millsap $126.3M
Nene Hilario $19.5M ($9.3M 2018)
David Lee $11.2($5.5M)

[Drom John]

Dewayne Dedmon $32.3M($9.1M)