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TheCerebral1
07-10-2017, 12:12 AM
Not sure that I've seen much of him play in Detroit lately, but as a 24 year old wing, he could be a nice get. I know it would be overkill. Just throwing it out there.
dabom
07-10-2017, 12:14 AM
he refused 80 mil over 5 years
TheDoctor
07-10-2017, 12:15 AM
Not sure that I've seen much of him play in Detroit lately, but as a 24 year old wing, he could be a nice get. I know it would be overkill. Just throwing it out there.

He wants more than 16M per.

No thanks.
tbdog
07-10-2017, 12:17 AM
And we can't even do a sign and trade as pistons renounced him. So we can't even ask pistons to take Simmons and Green for example.
BG_Spurs_Fan
07-10-2017, 01:30 AM
Will he take the BAE? :lol
Mal
07-10-2017, 02:12 AM
he refused 80 mil over 5 years

And left on ice. Only Brooklyn with 19 mil in cap or Atlanta can sign him for more.
Ice009
07-10-2017, 02:32 AM
Maybe he wanted out of Detroit and used it as a tactic to get out. Was he a restricted free agent?
buttsR4rebounding
07-10-2017, 02:37 AM
And left on ice. Only Brooklyn with 19 mil in cap or Atlanta can sign him for more.

So who has more than 10 million to offer Simmons?
Mal
07-10-2017, 08:44 AM
So who has more than 10 million to offer Simmons?

Guess, same teams. I don't think Sacramento will be interested, that leaves Atlanta and Nets, but I assume KCP will be their first phone call.
Mal
07-10-2017, 08:45 AM
Maybe he wanted out of Detroit and used it as a tactic to get out. Was he a restricted free agent?

Yes, but Detroit renounced their right and aquire Bradley
buttsR4rebounding
07-10-2017, 10:55 AM
Guess, same teams. I don't think Sacramento will be interested, that leaves Atlanta and Nets, but I assume KCP will be their first phone call.

If it is only those 2 teams then Spurs should be lowering their offer to Simmons. There are more proven guards that are unrestricted available than Simmons. Why would either of those teams go for a restricted FA and have to deal with waiting to see if they match. Then likely starting over again. I read where Nets are preparing an offer for KCP. What is Atlanta's guard situation? Are they likely to make an offer on Simmons? The Spurs still need to sign Pau, probably Manu, another big, and Simmons for about $18 million. Any reduction in the salary of Simmons helps to do that.
Walter Donovan
07-10-2017, 10:56 AM
He sounds like an overrated greedy egotistical maniac.
buttsR4rebounding
07-10-2017, 11:04 AM
He sounds like an overrated greedy egotistical maniac.

You'll have to be more specific.
kaji157
07-10-2017, 11:24 AM
Simmons has yet to sign an offer sheet. Considering the Spurs usual negotiation it means he will be offered around half of what patty was offered, unless he comes back with an offer from other teams.
Spurs have always been «show me what you've got» in free agency.
Mal
07-10-2017, 11:35 AM
If it is only those 2 teams then Spurs should be lowering their offer to Simmons. There are more proven guards that are unrestricted available than Simmons. Why would either of those teams go for a restricted FA and have to deal with waiting to see if they match. Then likely starting over again. I read where Nets are preparing an offer for KCP. What is Atlanta's guard situation? Are they likely to make an offer on Simmons? The Spurs still need to sign Pau, probably Manu, another big, and Simmons for about $18 million. Any reduction in the salary of Simmons helps to do that.

Atlant will buy out Jamal Crawford and they will have Kent Bazemore as starter at SG. Malcolm Delaney is their backup at guard, so they will need another backup, but Simmons does not fit in age wise. And you have to over pay him, to get Spurs to pass on him. 8,8,16, 16 Spurs may match, but it is still 12mil for backup SG, who is like 3 yrs older than rest of the core.
SAGirl
07-10-2017, 05:54 PM
Atlant will buy out Jamal Crawford and they will have Kent Bazemore as starter at SG. Malcolm Delaney is their backup at guard, so they will need another backup, but Simmons does not fit in age wise. And you have to over pay him, to get Spurs to pass on him. 8,8,16, 16 Spurs may match, but it is still 12mil for backup SG, who is like 3 yrs older than rest of the core.
I don't think Spurs match on that. I suspect at this point they already know how far they will go and the last two seasons on that are an overpayment that will coincide with Kawhi's supermax and is an overpayment for a guy who was 10th in the rotation, barely started games and wasn't great when he did. I am not dissing on Simms but him at that price 3 seasons older is too much. If he comes back with that you bid him adieu and good luck. However I think it's getting more and more likely that he doesn't get that.
baseline bum
07-10-2017, 06:00 PM
He's terrible.
sasaint
07-10-2017, 06:08 PM
Atlant will buy out Jamal Crawford and they will have Kent Bazemore as starter at SG. Malcolm Delaney is their backup at guard, so they will need another backup, but Simmons does not fit in age wise. And you have to over pay him, to get Spurs to pass on him. 8,8,16, 16 Spurs may match, but it is still 12mil for backup SG, who is like 3 yrs older than rest of the core.

So, Atlanta would be swapping Crawford for Simmons?
Mal
07-11-2017, 06:26 AM
So, Atlanta would be swapping Crawford for Simmons?

In this scenario, yeah, but I would say this will not make sense for them. Not for 4 yrs at 40+ mil. I don't know how much will Spurs match, but Atlanta does not know that either, so they must offer him as much money as Spurs wouldn't match.
sasaint
07-11-2017, 08:20 AM
In this scenario, yeah, but I would say this will not make sense for them. Not for 4 yrs at 40+ mil. I don't know how much will Spurs match, but Atlanta does not know that either, so they must offer him as much money as Spurs wouldn't match.

I'm not sure that Atlanta would prefer Simmons over Crawford.
Mal
07-11-2017, 09:17 AM
I'm not sure that Atlanta would prefer Simmons over Crawford.

Crawford is not gonna play for them. He'll be bought out.
look_at_g_shred
07-11-2017, 09:18 AM
Crawford is not gonna play for them. He'll be bought out.
He already signed with the T-Wolves iirc
Floyd Pacquiao
07-11-2017, 09:22 AM
Who? He could come down and start eating food off my plate and I still wouldn't know who he is.
TheDoctor
07-11-2017, 09:25 AM
He already signed with the T-Wolves iirc
He hasn't signed yet but cleared his waivers.
:lol they browsing Pounding the Cock and their 2 days delayed reports too much.
Kindergarten Cop
07-11-2017, 09:27 AM
He already signed with the T-Wolves iirc

He has officially cleared waivers and should make the signing official today - reportedly a 2yr/$8.7M deal.
look_at_g_shred
07-11-2017, 09:28 AM
He has officially cleared waivers and should make the signing official today - reportedly a 2yr/$8.7M deal.
Is that their MLE?
Kindergarten Cop
07-11-2017, 09:28 AM
double post
Kindergarten Cop
07-11-2017, 09:33 AM
Is that their MLE?

Yes, Room Mid Level Exception.
adonis827
07-11-2017, 10:25 AM
Is he even worth Danny Green money? KCP is not even shooting 40%. Then again Rubio is also not shooting 40%. I don't get the hype with KCP though
look_at_g_shred
07-11-2017, 10:52 AM
Is he even worth Danny Green money? KCP is not even shooting 40%. Then again Rubio is also not shooting 40%. I don't get the hype with KCP though

You are paying for the cool initials.