Spurs withdraw qualifying offer for Simmons

[raybies]

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thread worthy imo

bye simms, hope your not the next Lance Stephenson

[Big Empty]

ha bad ass

[MultiTroll]

Great, bring him along for two years and give plenty of playoff minutes to.
Instead re up Patty for 4 fucking years.

[raybies]

can we officially say Manu is coming back now? they have more money to give to Pau and Manu.. and that would complete the roster.

[cd98]

Wow must be moving on.

[gospursgojas]

Spurs tired of waiting? Making room for another? Now he has to hope a team really wants him or else get possibly less than spurs orig offer. If any offer at all

[NASpurs]

Probably the Nets offering a fuck ton of money.

[phxspurfan]

Maybe we refund his 100 bucks

[loveforthegame]

Best of luck to him. Hope it works out wherever he goes.

Not worth the money for the Spurs. And it looks like they found a better (and cheaper) option in Brandon Paul.

[DaBears]

Great, bring him along for two years and give plenty of playoff minutes to.
Instead re up Patty for 4 fucking years.

Why knock Patty he's done everything that been asked, plus he can score more than JSIMS.. I like JSIMS, good for him working hard and getting paid... There are players like JSIMS scattered all over the NBA & G league & Patty probably too if were being honest here.

[raybies]

i mean they just cut him loose. I guess they decided to go with another cheaper option cause he wanted more and wouldn't budge. Spurs probably didnt want to waste their time any longer. But this scenario could allow them to pay Pau and Manu big one year deals to come back if I'm not mistaken for cap next year. And Brandon should be cheap so less money tied up should make some of ya'll happy right

[210baller]

Maybe we refund his 100 bucks

LMAO!!!

[FkLA]

Are they not able to resign him after renouncing him? Like doesnt that just basically make him an unrestricted FA?

[picnroll]

Maybe they wanted a more consistent three point shooter.

[Kurik]

Are they not able to resign him after renouncing him? Like doesnt that just basically make him an unrestricted FA?

It says Unresticted in the tweet, they could still sign him but they won't.

[raybies]

Are they not able to resign him after renouncing him? Like doesnt that just basically make him an unrestricted FA?
Yeah they can sign him and yes he just is UFA now but if they did still want him... :wow that was a power move

Typically I think this means they are moving on

[NASpurs]

This just means someone offered him a lot of money and the Spurs didn't want to match right?

[RD2191]

Dude better get paid cuz odds are he won't be in the league for very long.

[dabom]

Dude better get paid cuz odds are he won't be in the league for very long.

Had to check if you were Rocalcio..

[Dverde]

My guess is they gave him a deadline and now they are moving on. May work out better for him. Best of luck unless he joins the warriors.

[superbigtime]

i guess he wasn't right for the money but it sucks to lose exciting players like simmons and dedmon.
gonna miss the signature chase down blocks and dunks. this team is going to be BORING.

[RD2191]

Had to check if you were Rocalcio..

That scumbag imposter..

[td4mvp2k]

can we officially say Manu is coming back now? they have more money to give to Pau and Manu.. and that would complete the roster.ya that makes room for them :tu

[raybies]

This just means someone offered him a lot of money and the Spurs didn't want to match right?
Yeah maybe. But he didn't even sign an offer sheet. He was just cut loose. They moved in another direction. He'll probably make a tad bit more than what the Spurs offered if that imo

[raybies]

Should of just taken the reported 9 per when FA started but likely got greedy for 2 or 3 games worth of production

[NASpurs]

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[raybies]

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So according to this it was a power move...

Edit: ... If he doesn't come down on his asking price they just move on. Nobody stopping him from getting a raise now. Let's see if anyone bites.

[DAF86]

PATFO saw my thread, tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

Can't wait till Kawhi leaves :lmao

Manure has officially cost us Boban and Simmons. Who the fuck knows how much the Spurs will pay him this time to make some donuts in the playoffs

[DAF86]

can we officially say Manu is coming back now? they have more money to give to Pau and Manu.. and that would complete the roster.

Even if Manu comes back we still need to sign another wing. A lot of unproved players on that spot for us.

[TheGreatYacht]

Great, bring him along for two years and give plenty of playoff minutes to.
Instead re up Patty for 4 fucking years.
Spurs overpaid the most replaceable free agent they had at 12:01am

I hate Deadman, but at least he played defense :lol

[raybies]

Even if Manu comes back we still need to sign another wing. A lot of unproved players on that spot for us.
Unless they trade somebody, the signing of Paul, Manu, and Pau would give us 15

[phxspurfan]

Should of just taken the reported 9 per when FA started but likely got greedy for 2 or 3 games worth of production

He should've taken the 9 mill...

[mookie2001]

Sure would be a luxury if Argie would make up his mind and not hamstring the franchise every year

[raybies]

Adrian Wojnarowski‏Verified account @wojespn (https://twitter.com/wojespn) 42s43 seconds ago (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/885535215669596162)More



San Antonio is still negotiating with Jonathan Simmons as an UFA, league sources tell ESPN.

[DaBears]

This just means someone offered him a lot of money and the Spurs didn't want to match right?

basically yes.. Knicks or another team has offered him something more than Spurs would want to pay. They probably need the cash to pay another big somewhere down the line.

[bd_monster]

Woj just reported Spurs aren't giving up and still negotiating a contract.

[raybies]

Vey interesting time for Simmons and his career. He could flame out... It would be best to stay and further establish yourself instead of risk a Lance like regression elsewhere in uncharted waters

[duncan2k5]

NIG mistake... Now we have NO slashers, except Murray....doesn't make sense to have a lot of shooters if no one can get open because the defense isn't being broken down

[td4mvp2k]

Vey interesting time for Simmons and his career. He could flame out... It would be best to stay and further establish yourself instead of risk a Lance like regression elsewhere in uncharted waters
agree for less tho spurs still have other vets to resign

[Budkin]

Fuck man. Really wanted him back.

[Poolboy5623]

sooooo...this means either:
1) He has a large offer from another team(unlikely).
2) He isn't getting much action and now the Spurs want to attempt to sign him for less than their original offer?

[raybies]

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just got confusing....
Chinook what this mean

[Ice009]

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San Antonio is still negotiating with Jonathan Simmons as an UFA, league sources tell ESPN.


This is strange. Why would they renounce him if they are still negotiating with him?

[TheGreatYacht]

agree for less tho spurs still have other vets to resign
Manure and Gasol won't make less than Simmons lmfao.

[coachmac87]

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just got confusing....
Chinook what this mean

Could the Spurs be moving Green, Parker or LMA?

[Dex]

Very possible that they wanted to clear up the space his QO was taking up and avoid having to wait out another team's offer. May mean that there are more moves coming soon.

[NASpurs]

:pop: "Oops sorry Pau, we ran out of money"

[Mal]

Dafuk? Bryn Forbes !

[Seventyniner]

Very possible that they wanted to clear up the space his QO was taking up and avoid having to wait out another team's offer. May mean that there are more moves come soon.

This is a drastic shift. His QO amount didn't matter if the Spurs are operating above the cap. Renouncing him while still trying to re-sign him also doesn't make sense, they will need to use the LLE now whereas if they kept his QO they could use the LLE on someone else.

Patty hasn't actually signed his contract yet, has he? If the Spurs are still trying to use cap space he would have to sign after it's used up. But which FAs are out there that would be worth re-jiggering everything at this point to use cap space after all?

[phxspurfan]

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just got confusing....
Chinook what this mean

Oh shit.


Sup Melo!

[Mal]

sooooo...this means either:
1) He has a large offer from another team(unlikely).
2) He isn't getting much action and now the Spurs want to attempt to sign him for less than their original offer?

1) simply Spurs wouldn't not match
2) There wasn't any offer. Eitherway Spurs could have sign him for whatever.

Only reason is to get rid of cap hold of 1,6 mil and sign someone quick (Brandon Paul)

[Hoops Czar]

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just got confusing....
Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) what this mean

Manu or Pau for the MLE. It's not confusing.

[raybies]

This is strange. Why would they renounce him if they are still negotiating with him?
My guess is he thinks he could get more and being an RFA hinders that so he's holding out and the Spurs are pulling the chair and saying something like "Let's see what offers you get as a UFA then, buddy" No offers come to what he wants than he has no choice to come down on his price. But as a UFA he can sign short term deals and I think that's what a lot of teams would prefer to pay him. He most likely wants security or a long term deal with big pay. He's likely to get a 1 year deal or 2 year deal now and i doubt anybody will pay more than the mid level. Tyreke Evans a similar player signed for 1 year and got what like 4 mill. I think that's what he's looking at. He really banked on himself tho. He's losing money by the day and if he flames out cause he chooses to leave... Just not smart. Pay your dues like Patty and get paid later, as much as we hate it, Patty paid his dues...

[NASpurs]

We'll be Team ISO-ball with Kawhi, Melo, Gay and Aldridge :wow :lol

[Ice009]

Oh shit.


Sup Melo!

lol. Maybe Lebron told Dejounte, get Carmelo and I'll be there next season. Don't know where we'd get the money from, though.

[Mal]

This is a drastic shift. His QO amount didn't matter if the Spurs are operating above the cap. Renouncing him while still trying to re-sign him also doesn't make sense, they will need to use the LLE now whereas if they kept his QO they could use the LLE on someone else.

Patty hasn't actually signed his contract yet, has he? If the Spurs are still trying to use cap space he would have to sign after it's used up. But which FAs are out there that would be worth re-jiggering everything at this point to use cap space after all?

Mills will be signed last. Full bird right, go over the cap, but still under tax cap.

[SuperCam]

no outspoken black americans on this team while Poop is running things, that's for sure.


:pop: "How dare you ask, of course we're bringing back Manu, a key player on a WCF participant team. Are you coaching now?" :pop:

[sasaint]

So according to this it was a power move...

Edit: ... If he doesn't come down on his asking price they just move on. Nobody stopping him from getting a raise now. Let's see if anyone bites.

Plus, signing BPaul puts a little added pressure on.

[raybies]

:pop: "Oops sorry Pau, we ran out of money"
:lmao

[td4mvp2k]

Manure and Gasol won't make less than Simmons lmfao.this yr they will

[jyra]

Maybe some kind of misunderstanding?

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[DAF86]

Unless they trade somebody, the signing of Paul, Manu, and Pau would give us 15

Who is Paul?

[Mal]

:pop: "Oops sorry Pau, we ran out of money"

I start to imagine, Paul signing with Grizz for MLE.

[NASpurs]

Who is Paul?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269650&goto=newpost

[Chinook]

885535754583146497

just got confusing....
Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) what this mean

Matt's being dumb. Simmons and SA can still sign a deal, but it does not affect the MLE.

[Chinook]

Who is Paul?

Point guard.

[raybies]

Who is Paul?
He's the guy that has come to take Manu's minutes:eyebrows

[raybies]

Maybe some kind of misunderstanding?

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Yeah they most likely pulled the offer than.

[DAF86]

He's the guy that has come to take Manu's minutes:eyebrows

I hadn't seen the other thread yet. Well, that's the other wing I was talking about. Although, can't he be like Blossomgame and be part of the 2 two-way roster spots?

[DPG21920]

Matt's being dumb. Simmons and SA can still sign a deal, but it does not affect the MLE.

He's not being totally dumb. It's definitely plausible that SA is going cap space route and then he's right. Not likely but possible.

I'm happy about this. I said this last week SA should lower their offer of 9M as he was gambling he could leverage a better offer. That's fine to do but if you make the market value argument and the market is worse than sa's offer SA has no reason to outbid themselves for a player of Simmons caliber.

[Chinook]

I hadn't seen the other thread yet. Well, that's the other wing I was talking about. Although, can't he be like Blossomgame and be part of the 2 two-way roster spots?

We'll have to wait to see the guarantees in his contract. If it's over $50k, then he's likely signed for the season rather the d-league.

[Chinook]

He's not being totally dumb. It's definitely plausible that SA is going cap space route and then he's right. Not likely but possible.

I'm happy about this. I said this last week SA should lower their offer of 9M as he was gambling he could leverage a better offer. That's fine to do but if you make the market value argument and the market is worse than sa's offer SA has no reason to outbid themselves for a player of Simmons caliber.

No, he's being dumb. There's nothing about pulling the QO that makes using cap space more reasonable.

[Seventyniner]

Who is Paul?

Used to go by Saul, wrote a bunch of books that are now in the bible, etc.

[tdunk21]

Used to go by Saul, wrote a bunch of books that are now in the bible, etc.

:lmao

[NASpurs]

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[SpurPadre]

Who is Paul?

CP3's retarded double, sans basketball ability from the State Farm Commercials, tbh.

[Chinook]

This is useful info:


San Antonio reached agreement on a guaranteed deal with Euroleague guard Brandon Paul, sources told ESPN.

No two-way, no d-league. Dude is expected to grab a roster spot.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

:lol if he signs for the BAE.

[Chinook]

:lol if he signs for the BAE.

Would be a huge waste of the LLE.

[RD2191]

Who is Paul?

A scrub that's worth shit.

[jhfenton]

No, he's being dumb. There's nothing about pulling the QO that makes using cap space more reasonable.

I think the confusion was caused by Jabari saying that the Spurs renounced Simmons.

[Chinook]

I think the confusion was caused by Jabari saying that the Spurs renounced Simmons.

Certainly didn't help. A lot of people have been calling it that.

[DPG21920]

No, he's being dumb. There's nothing about pulling the QO that makes using cap space more reasonable.

Not cap space but the last part of what he was saying about Gay not signing w MLE and other things being afoot (Pau maybe, etc()

[Chinook]

Not cap space but the last part of what he was saying about Gay not signing w MLE and other things being afoot (Pau maybe, etc()

To be honest, it's likely that SA submitted Gay's contract as soon as he signed it. They would not have tweeted it out only to sit on it for days, nor would they have had Gay drive down to SA to sign a deal and then not submit it. Once that's done, the Spurs are announcing they are going to be over the cap. While they can get cap space, they would lose the room exception.

[raybies]

So with the signing of Paul and the continued negotiations with Simmons, sounds a little like Manu is out. Unless they waive Forbes...

[DPG21920]

To be honest, it's likely that SA submitted Gay's contract as soon as he signed it. They would not have tweeted it out only to sit on it for days, nor would they have had Gay drive down to SA to sign a deal and then not submit it. Once that's done, the Spurs are announcing they are going to be over the cap. While they can get cap space, they would lose the room exception.

From me asking around even w a deal signed if SA had cap space (to where MLE no longer allowed) Gays deal would convert to cap space vs MLE.

[jermaine]

So with the signing of Paul and the continued negotiations with Simmons, sounds a little like Manu is out. Unless they waive Forbes...

Why would they waive Forbes?

[KDKSpurs24]

So with the signing of Paul and the continued negotiations with Simmons, sounds a little like Manu is out. Unless they waive Forbes...
Maybe they asked Manu and he told them he was retiring but told them not to make it public so he can write an article about it first. Idk, this is kinda weird.

[rastaspur]

Fine with me so long as not renounced outright. Can get him cheaper than 9 mil.

That's fine and all, but what about the imbalanced roster. So 3 legit bigs with lma, gasol, and joffrey. Jesus christ I hope a trade is in the works. Not looking forward to relying on a disgruntled lma to be our sole rim protector. That's scary.

I hope the Paul signing is a non guaranteed deal where he has to make good at training camp to earn a spot. If gua ranted and one of Manu and Simmons sign that leaves only room for gasol.

[hater]

Maybe they wanted a more consistent three point shooter.

Yeah like Manure

[SpurPadre]

So with the signing of Paul and the continued negotiations with Simmons, sounds a little like Manu is out. Unless they waive Forbes...

I fear Manu was hoping we'd get CP3 but once we lost out on that, he probably doesn't think the team as constructed can beat the Dubs and therefore, doesn't want to go through another long grind only to be runner-ups again.

[tmtcsc]

Spurs overpaid the most replaceable free agent they had at 12:01am

I hate Deadman, but at least he played defense :lol

And by defense, you mean he just fouled the fuck out of people.

[Reeko_Htown]

https://twitter.com/JabariJYoung/status/885551299915386880

[phxspurfan]

lol. Maybe Lebron told Dejounte, get Carmelo and I'll be there next season. Don't know where we'd get the money from, though.

Everybody knows we're dangling Aldridge at this point (even Aldridge's real estate agent knows lol)

[phxspurfan]

I fear Manu was hoping we'd get CP3 but once we lost out on that, he probably doesn't think the team as constructed can beat the Dubs and therefore, doesn't want to go through another long grind only to be runner-ups again.

Ok, bye. Thanks for the memories

[SpurPadre]

Ok, bye. Thanks for the memories

He deserves the same respect as TD when no one was sure if he'd retire, tbh. And no one was clamoring for him to leave.

[SAGirl]

PATFO saw my thread, tbh.

:rollin

[TheGreatYacht]

He deserves the same respect as TD when no one was sure if he'd retire, tbh. And no one was clamoring for him to leave.
Manure has been doing this schtick since 2013 :lol

Why is he waiting until all the good free agents are gone? I think we all know why, $$$$.

[BatManu20]

He gone.


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[jiggy_55]

Yep, he gone

[SAGirl]

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I wish him the best wherever he goes.

[TheGreatYacht]

My nigga is gonna block Fathead and Green's layups in the playoffs, you know it's coming. Just hope he doesn't pick Houston, OKC, GS, or Minnesota who would all send this mediocre team fishing in 4 or 5

[LkrFan]

You guys have exactly two athletic players. The rest are strictly Pop system players. I wonder which team will offer more money than Pop is willing to give him? :stirpot:

[DPG21920]

I'm shocked at how many SA fans that watched Simmons make him out to be such a good player. I like Simmons, I'd be happy he's back but people seem to have this image of him as an above avenge player

[SpurPadre]

Manure has been doing this schtick since 2013 :lol

Why is he waiting until all the good free agents are gone? I think we all know why, $$$$.

After years of taking a paycut and playing off the bench when every other team would start him, can you really blame him for doing that? I see your point, though.

[BSfromTX]

Manure has been doing this schtick since 2013 :lol

Why is he waiting until all the good free agents are gone? I think we all know why, $$$$.

speaking of schticks, yours is getting old and tiring. Criticizing Manu is the weakest troll attempt ever, yet you continue to run with it at every opportunity.

its such a pain in the ass to try and fish through garbage in this forum to read decent takes...

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski @wojespn
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Free agent Jonathon Simmons is talking to several teams on the market now, league sources tell ESPN. No assurance he returns to Spurs.

[Big Empty]

I'm shocked at how many SA fans that watched Simmons make him out to be such a good player. I like Simmons, I'd be happy he's back but people seem to have this image of him as an above average player

[SpurPadre]

I'm shocked at how many SA fans that watched Simmons make him out to be such a good player. I like Simmons, I'd be happy he's back but people seem to have this image of him as an above avenge player

It's the allure of his athleticism, tbh. He's probably one of the most athletic players we've had in the Pop era. Still, he's not a special player.

[tmtcsc]

So be it. Thank goodness they didn't over pay him.

[coachmac87]

I'm shocked at how many SA fans that watched Simmons make him out to be such a good player. I like Simmons, I'd be happy he's back but people seem to have this image of him as an above avenge player

It's more like he was the ONLY player to step up when Kawhi went down..would I overpay for Simmons..NO..but they do need his skill set quite badly tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

speaking of schticks, yours is getting old and tiring. Criticizing Manu is the weakest troll attempt ever, yet you continue to run with it at every opportunity.

its such a pain in the ass to try and fish through garbage in this forum to read decent takes...
Known Manure fluffer and Parker hater is mad at me. Brings me tears of joy :') now dance for me

[DPG21920]

It's more like he was the ONLY player to step up when Kawhi went down..would I overpay for Simmons..NO..but they do need his skill set quite badly tbh.

That's just false imo. Kyle stepped up just as much impact wise. Also SA needs the skillset of what Simmons HOPED to be. His actual skills are mediocre

[SilverSpur]

So the 9 million offer was go keep others away and then we renounce him and then get him for cheap.
If he resigns for anything cheaper than 9 mil the Spurs are Gods

[tmtcsc]

You guys have exactly two athletic players. The rest are strictly Pop system players. I wonder which team will offer more money than Pop is willing to give him? :stirpot:

A team that is tanking no doubt. He's fun to watch some times and brutal others. No way is he worth more than 3 to 4 million even in the present basketball economy. Spurs know it and other teams do as well.

[DAF86]

My nigga is gonna block Fathead and Green's layups in the playoffs, you know it's coming. Just hope he doesn't pick Houston, OKC, GS, or Minnesota who would all send this mediocre team fishing in 4 or 5

If he doesn't sign with the Spurs (which I think it's still the most likely scenario), he will probably sign with a Brooklyn Nets' type team, imho.

[LkrFan]

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:stirpot:

[Hoops Czar]

I'm shocked at how many SA fans that watched Simmons make him out to be such a good player. I like Simmons, I'd be happy he's back but people seem to have this image of him as an above avenge player

Malik Hairston syndrome

[GSH]

I'm shocked at how many SA fans that watched Simmons make him out to be such a good player. I like Simmons, I'd be happy he's back but people seem to have this image of him as an above avenge player


He was good in the playoffs. He was an average player, with above average athleticism. Pop's strategy obviously doesn't value athleticism. He's done pretty well that way - the league seems to be moving in another direction.

I just saw that Paul's deal was guaranteed? Rumors are worth what you pay for them, but if that's true, the chances of Simmons winding up here are pretty close to zero.

[TheGreatYacht]

Feel bad for Kawhi tbh... he's the only Harden stopper we have left.

Who are we hiding Green on, tbh? We all know CP3 impregnates his girl every time they play

[tmtcsc]

So the 9 million offer was go keep others away and then we renounce him and then get him for cheap.
If he resigns for anything cheaper than 9 mil the Spurs are Gods

We have no confirmation that anyone offered him 9 million, just an early report. That seemed really high for a dude that didn't even make 1 Mill per and averaged 6 pts a game. I'm so friggin skeptical about the news. Not Donald Trump skeptical, but close.

[DAF86]

It's the allure of his athleticism, tbh. He's probably one of the most athletic players we've had in the Pop era. Still, he's not a special player.

Reminds me of the Pops Mensah Bonsu love affair. :lol

[DAF86]

Feel bad for Kawhi tbh... he's the only Harden stopper we have left.

Who are we hiding Green on, tbh? We all know CP3 impregnates his girl every time they play

Playoffs basketball is the only Harden stopper we need, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Reminds me of the Pops Mensah Bonsu love affair. :lol

He's better than that dude at least. But he's no Derek Anderson, either, another decent athletic player we only had briefly.

[LkrFan]

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:wow

[rjv]

Playoffs basketball is the only Harden stopper we need, tbh. or a Kardashian.

[SAGirl]

My guess is he thinks he could get more and being an RFA hinders that so he's holding out and the Spurs are pulling the chair and saying something like "Let's see what offers you get as a UFA then, buddy" No offers come to what he wants than he has no choice to come down on his price. But as a UFA he can sign short term deals and I think that's what a lot of teams would prefer to pay him. He most likely wants security or a long term deal with big pay. He's likely to get a 1 year deal or 2 year deal now and i doubt anybody will pay more than the mid level. Tyreke Evans a similar player signed for 1 year and got what like 4 mill. I think that's what he's looking at. He really banked on himself tho. He's losing money by the day and if he flames out cause he chooses to leave... Just not smart. Pay your dues like Patty and get paid later, as much as we hate it, Patty paid his dues...
My guess is that he asked to be released to test the UFA market.
It's a guess, but he was probably negotiating from a position of weakness bc the market for roleplayer wings such as him calmed down and being restricted got him no bites. He wanted to see what was out there as an UFA or he was signing that QO for one season and then he was going to be out the next season for sure. I don't think Spurs want to generate that kind of ill will with the player if he's still in the Spurs or with his agent. After the Aldridge thing they don't need more guys int he team that don't want to be here... They probably want him to stay only if he wants to stay not like he's been held hostage to that QO, so the Spurs acquiesced.

[Arcadian]

I'm shocked at how many SA fans that watched Simmons make him out to be such a good player. I like Simmons, I'd be happy he's back but people seem to have this image of him as an above avenge player

Because the alternative was Kyle Anderson :lol

[tmtcsc]

Reminds me of the Pops Mensah Bonsu love affair. :lol

Sure does

[TheGreatYacht]

Playoffs basketball is the only Harden stopper we need, tbh.
We're going to act like he wasn't torching Danny the first half of that series until Simmons and Kawhi took over? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm assuming the Spurs fans with Argie flags that hate Simmons are against bringing back the other shooting guard that put up even worse numbers and showed up for even less playoff games, right? I'm guessing there's no bias here

[DAF86]

We're going to act like he wasn't torching Danny the first half of that series until Simmons and Kawhi took over? :lol

Dude, Patty fucking Mills was able to stop Harden on more than a couple of occassions.

[coachmac87]

That's just false imo. Kyle stepped up just as much impact wise. Also SA needs the skillset of what Simmons HOPED to be. His actual skills are mediocre

Let's just agree to disagree...

[DAF86]

I'm assuming the Spurs fans with Argie flags that hate Simmons are against bringing back the other shooting guard that put up even worse numbers and showed up for even less playoff games, right? I'm guessing there's no bias here

That player doesn't exist, tbh.

[goliath]

Simmons and the Spurs have had no new negotiations since the qualifying offer was pulled Thursday, and Simmons has focused fully on signing elsewhere, agent Cervando Tejeda told The Vertical.

[TheGreatYacht]

Dude, Patty fucking Mills was able to stop Harden on more than a couple of occassions.
Nate Robinson stopped Lebron a couple of times as well. Who gives a fuck. Kawhi is officially the only guy that can shut down Harden on this team, point blank period.

[DisAsTerBot]

Thank god we aren't going to overpay this scrub

[TheGreatYacht]

That player doesn't exist, tbh.
The $14,000,000 man
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/272.png&w=350&h=254

7ppg on 39FG% in the RS
6ppg on 41FG% and 22 3P% in the playoffs

[NASpurs]

885551299915386880



Dis nigga gon

[PublicOption]

But he can play with anyone now. He will sign for $1 more somewhere else just to say fuck you.

[SAGirl]

This is useful info:



No two-way, no d-league. Dude is expected to grab a roster spot.

thanks for that tidbit.
Looks to me he's grabbing Jsimms roster spot.
6'4", another guard btw... Spurs collecting guards.

[Chinook]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKE9auHKxq0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_OUHRRyrU0

[PublicOption]

I remember being so mad Pop not playing him.

[DAF86]

The $14,000,000 man
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/272.png&w=350&h=254

7ppg on 39FG% in the RS
6ppg on 41FG% and 22 3P% in the playoffs

Still a better impact than Simmons, tbh.

[LittleCriminal]

Gunna miss those dunks and the behind the back blocks he made while in transition.
Hopefully he signs cheap and the FO trades his ass with Aldridge.

[tmtcsc]

Simmons and the Spurs have had no new negotiations since the qualifying offer was pulled Thursday, and Simmons has focused fully on signing elsewhere, agent Cervando Tejeda told The Vertical.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/yB5xx6dTE1g7S/giphy.gif

That fucking guy probably met Simms while selling cologne in a strip club bathroom. Not smart Jon.

[NASpurs]

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-spurs-renounce-rights-guard-jonathon-simmons-162236133.html


Simmons and the Spurs have had no new negotiations since the qualifying offer was pulled Thursday, and Simmons has focused fully on signing elsewhere, agent Cervando Tejeda told The Vertical.



Well sayonara.

[TheGreatYacht]

Still a better impact than Simmons, tbh.
More impact because he's Venezuelan*

[tmtcsc]

But he can play with anyone now. He will sign for $1 more somewhere else just to say fuck you.

So... fucking... what. Now he can turn the ball over for someone else. People have very selective memories when it comes to this dude. Forbes' legend is starting to grow too now. LOL, summer league.

[SuperCam]

The $14,000,000 man
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/272.png&w=350&h=254

7ppg on 39FG% in the RS
6ppg on 41FG% and 22 3P% in the playoffs

PATFO must be afraid of losing the churros and whataburger concession revenue when half the arena filled with fat mexicans stop following spurs after Manure is retired.

[tmtcsc]

Kind of interesting: After talks on a new contract stalled, a sign-and-trade with the Phoenix Suns was presented. The deal featured the Spurs getting center Tyson Chandler in exchange for Simmons, but at the last minute, the Spurs backed out of the trade, not wanting to take on the remaining two years and roughly $26 million on Chandler’s deal.

[Hoops Czar]

https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-spurs-renounce-rights-guard-jonathon-simmons-162236133.html



Well sayonara.

Turning down 9M (at least twice the amount he's worth) to go elsewhere kind of makes it sound like he's just another player who didn't want to play in San Antonio.

[TheGreatYacht]

PATFO must be afraid of losing the churros and whataburger concession revenue when half the arena filled with fat mexicans stop following spurs after Manure is retired.
:cry his stats may be shit and he may score 0 points, but det impact and ball diving is worth us losing players :cry

:cry he is from my hometown of Mexico City :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

Kind of interesting: After talks on a new contract stalled, a sign-and-trade with the Phoenix Suns was presented. The deal featured the Spurs getting center Tyson Chandler in exchange for Simmons, but at the last minute, the Spurs backed out of the trade, not wanting to take on the remaining two years and roughly $26 million on Chandler’s deal.
Rudy Gay, PJ Tucker, Derrick Rose, and Tyson Chandler. Jesus Christ. All these scrubs PATFO were legitimately interested in are completely cancerous.

Does Kawhitstorm (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49655) have any DUI's in his past?

[spurraider21]

the only reason to renounce him is to get rid of the cap hold

[spurraider21]

Kind of interesting: After talks on a new contract stalled, a sign-and-trade with the Phoenix Suns was presented. The deal featured the Spurs getting center Tyson Chandler in exchange for Simmons, but at the last minute, the Spurs backed out of the trade, not wanting to take on the remaining two years and roughly $26 million on Chandler’s deal.
lol still trying to appease LMA

the suns acquiring chandler was one of the reasons LMA took so long to make his choice that summer

[GSH]

Turning down 9M (at least twice the amount he's worth) to go elsewhere kind of makes it sound like he's just another player who didn't want to play in San Antonio.

I don't know about the $9M offer, but if this is true, Simmons requested that the Spurs pull his QO. Either he really believes that he can get more than the Spurs would pay, or he just doesn't want to play here. Maybe the Spurs made some sort of insulting offer?

"According to league sources, Simmons’ representatives then spoke with Spurs officials late Wednesday in Las Vegas, where it was requested he become an unrestricted free agent. The team granted the request Thursday morning, the last day teams can pull qualifying offers"

[DAF86]

More impact because he's Venezuelan*

No, more impact because that's what the numbers indicate.

[TheGreatYacht]

No, more impact because that's what the numbers indicate.
Those numbers also love Kyle Anderson and Matt Bonner

[spursmvp]

Can someone tell me why we didn't pay Simmons patty money at least? Why does PATFO like patty so much??

[DAF86]

Those numbers also love Kyle Anderson and Matt Bonner

Both better than Simmons, tbh. At least they got drafted and didn't need to pay to play in the NBA.

[TheGreatYacht]

Can someone tell me why we didn't pay Simmons patty money at least? Why does PATFO like patty so much??
Det culture and towel waving

http://byuipt.net/PGVT/lessons/01/images/13.png

[FkLA]

Am I the only one that wouldnt have minded Chandler? I know he's older but still. Or is he really that washed up?

[SAGirl]

Let's just agree to disagree...

:lol
dat hate :)

[TheGreatYacht]

Both better than Simmons, tbh. At least they got drafted and didn't need to pay to play in the NBA.
Ah, then we agree that Parker was better than Ginobili because he was NBA-ready and drafted in the first round.

[DAF86]

Ah, then we agree that Parker was better than Ginobili because he was NBA-ready and drafted in the first round.

If numbers would indicate that Parker is a better player than Ginobili I would agree, but they don't.

[TheGreatYacht]

If numbers would indicate that Parker is a better player than Ginobili I would agree, but they don't.
They do, and it isn't even close. Parker is Top 10 and 5 in playoff scoring and assisting. At least Manu is Top 5 in your heart

[coachmac87]

:lol
dat hate :)


Hands up don't shoot

[SAGirl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKE9auHKxq0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_OUHRRyrU0

What a fallacy, Chinook....
Danny gets no credit... At least Pop does know what he's doing.

[SAGirl]

Hands up don't shoot

:toast:lol

[BatManu20]

Won't be long.


885575648739172352

[SpursFan86]

Am I the only one that wouldnt have minded Chandler? I know he's older but still. Or is he really that washed up?

I think he can still be a solid player, but I wouldn't want to have $26 million tied up to him over the next couple of years.

[SuperCam]

:cry pero pero los números :cry

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-TNgZZ-yppjA/Uj2UaVEofAI/AAAAAAAAHNo/Q5vIESsVW3A/s1600/3d+mexican+flag+animation+gif.gif

[objective]

So dumb.

It's an off-season from hell.

[DAF86]

They do, and it isn't even close. Parker is Top 10 and 5 in playoff scoring and assisting. At least Manu is Top 5 in your heart

:lol raw numbers

No wonder you are so desperate to throw 1o millions per year to a borderline D-league player. :lol

[james evans]

Turning down 9M (at least twice the amount he's worth) to go elsewhere kind of makes it sound like he's just another player who didn't want to play in San Antonio.
Ginobli made $14 million last season. And you don't think Simmons is worth $9 million? I hate to see him go, but these player need to get their money when they can.

[SAGirl]

Kind of interesting: After talks on a new contract stalled, a sign-and-trade with the Phoenix Suns was presented. The deal featured the Spurs getting center Tyson Chandler in exchange for Simmons, but at the last minute, the Spurs backed out of the trade, not wanting to take on the remaining two years and roughly $26 million on Chandler’s deal.

:stirpot: That would have been a favor for Simmons tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol raw numbers

No wonder you are so desperate to throw 1o millions per year to a borderline D-league player. :lol
those win games over :cry mah BPM :cry

Im not from Houston, so idgaf. You're in this for your countrymen bruh :lol it's clear as day

[james evans]

It's fine. Paul Pierce just retired. I'm sure he'd be happy with that $9 million a year. While we're at it, we can sign someone from the 3 on 3 league.

[bic50]

Hate to lose Simmons and Dedmon but oh well

[Mikeanaro]

Ginobli made $14 million last season. And you don't think Simmons is worth $9 million? I hate to see him go, but these player need to get their money when they can.
He and Dedmon need to cash ASAP, it may be their only chance.

[BatManu20]

He and Dedmon need to cash ASAP, it may be their only chance.

Exactly. Get your money fellas.

[DAF86]

those win games over :cry mah BPM :cry

Im not from Houston, so idgaf. You're in this for your countrymen bruh :lol it's clear as day

If that was the case I would be against signing any wing and I'm not, in fact I endorse signing as many wings as we can. I'm not even against signing Simmons. I'm just against overpaying for his scrub ass, tbh.

[FkLA]

I think he can still be a solid player, but I wouldn't want to have $26 million tied up to him over the next couple of years.

It would only be this upcoming year and next. Not that bad, imo. Unless PATFO really is gearing up to go all out to lure a max guy in '18.

[DisAsTerBot]

So dumb.

It's an off-season from hell.

Why should we keep him? His production is easily replaceable. You may need a new screen name after this offseason tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

Why should we keep him? His production is easily replaceable. You may need a new screen name after this offseason tbh
Who on the roster right now can give you that production against Houston and Golden State? This should be interesting

[DisAsTerBot]

Who on the roster right now can give you that production against Houston and Golden State? This should be interesting

Kyle played just as well (not that great). We sure will miss that 35% 3 pt shooting though, am I right?

[DAF86]

Who on the roster right now can give you that production against Houston and Golden State? This should be interesting

Below league average impact? Pretty much all the other players.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kyle played just as well (not that great). We sure will miss that 35% 3 pt shooting though, am I right?
So we're expecting Kyle Anderson to be a Top 3 player for us. All I needed to hear. Thanks

[DAF86]

So we're expecting Kyle Anderson to be a Top 3 player for us. All I needed to hear. Thanks

Are you expecting Simmons to be a top 3 player for us? All I need to hear. Thanks. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Below league average impact? Pretty much all the other players.
Simmons was the subject, buddy. We're not talking about 40yr old Mexican shooting guards that shot 21% against Memphis and 37% against Houston

[duncan2k5]

We WILL regret this...now we have unathletic players that are undersized, and can't drive the ball...great...

[TheGreatYacht]

Are you expecting Simmons to be a top 3 player for us? All I need to hear. Thanks. :lol
If Manure finally gets taken to the back and put out. Sure. That ballhog holds back everyone. Joseph can attest.

[LkrFan]

885574926291415041

[DMC]

He's hot garbage. He'll be on some team and beast on the Spurs when we play them but he's not going to improve much if any. Still a decent defender and should be able to make retirement level money for a few years in the NBA.

[spursmvp]

Are you expecting Simmons to be a top 3 player for us? All I need to hear. Thanks. :lol

He was the top 1 player against the dubs. That's all that matters. What's the point of the regular season if we can't beat the dubs?

[UZER]

Hate to lose Simmons and Dedmon but oh well

Kanye: Gregg Popovich doesnt care about black people.

[Rocalcio]

That scumbag imposter..


:)

[rjv]

ST giving us the xenophobes' analysis today.

[Hoops Czar]

We WILL regret this...now we have unathletic players that are undersized, and can't drive the ball...great...
We have brandon Paul. He's the exact same player. All those Simmons nuthuggers will grow to love him and at a fraction of the cost of Simms.

[phxspurfan]

He deserves the same respect as TD when no one was sure if he'd retire, tbh. And no one was clamoring for him to leave.

Sure he does. But that doesn't entitle him to hold the team hostage while he contemplates whether he's bought into the thought the team can win. He's not LeBron or something, he's like a 38 year old on his last legs. Just play one more year and ride off in style or retire and come back for jersey night.

[TD 21]

Not surprised, but everything about this is bizarre. Why renounce him if they supposedly intend to re-sign him? Why are there conflicting reports about their intent? And if, as has been reported, there was no traction in this negotiation, why wasn't Hanga signed? Maybe he wouldn't take the minimum or close to it, but he'd have been a more direct replacement for Simmons than Paul.

Ginobili's decision probably determines just how much small ball they play because if he retires, they'd be down two rotation wings and his spot more than likely goes to a big.

[MultiTroll]

So it's okay for Porky Parker and Gasol to be grossly overpaid but Simmons is greedy if he wants anywhere near market value.

CIA Popped and RC way to go!

[rjv]

Not surprised, but everything about this is bizarre. Why renounce him if they supposedly intend to re-sign him? Why are there conflicting reports about their intent? And if, as has been reported, there was no traction in this negotiation, why wasn't Hanga signed? Maybe he wouldn't take the minimum or close to it, but he'd have been a more direct replacement for Simmons than Paul.

Ginobili's decision probably determines just how much small ball they play because if he retires, they'd be down two rotation wings and his spot more than likely goes to a big. i thought hanga was set to return to baskonia.

[spursmvp]

So it's okay for Porky Parker and Gasol to be grossly overpaid but Simmons is greedy if he wants anywhere near market value.

CIA Popped and RC way to go!

Don't forget Patty Towelwaver

[DAF86]

He was the top 1 player against the dubs. That's all that matters. What's the point of the regular season if we can't beat the dubs?

No, he wasn't. Why do people keep insisting on pushing that lie? :lol

[DPG21920]

So it's okay for Porky Parker and Gasol to be grossly overpaid but Simmons is greedy if he wants anywhere near market value.

CIA Popped and RC way to go!

:lol Well his market value is very clearly lower than he thought. He had a 9M offer from SA and thought his market was better. He was wrong and will likely pay the price for it.

[TD 21]

i thought hanga was set to return to baskonia.

I know, I mean before that. He was clearly waiting on them and by all accounts, they didn't make much, if any progress with Simmons' agent throughout. You'd think they'd have had the foresight to see where this was going early, pulled the plug then and turned to Hanga. If it wasn't a matter of money, then they just weren't that high on him. Seems strange though given that he appeared to be a natural Simmons replacement.

[Joseph Kony]

Posters on this forum are so fucking retarded, i swear. lol at anyone thinking Simmons was some kind of make or break impact player. dude was a decent backup but crofl at people thinking we're going to regret this or it's gonna be some big deal to bite us in the ass. Simmons had a few nice games here and there. Overall he was incredibly inconsistent. the fuck would we pay 10 million a year for 6/2/1 a game for a player who is already at his peak? :lmao :lmao

[rjv]

I know, I mean before that. He was clearly waiting on them and by all accounts, they didn't make much, if any progress with Simmons' agent throughout. You'd think they'd have had the foresight to see where this was going early, pulled the plug then and turned to Hanga. If it wasn't a matter of money, then they just weren't that high on him. Seems strange though given that he appeared to be a natural Simmons replacement. it is odd. not sure what happened with hanga.

[MultiTroll]

We have brandon Paul. He's the exact same player. All those Simmons nuthuggers will grow to love him and at a fraction of the cost of Simms.
Ya summer league always translates into NBA success. :rolleyes Jimmer!
He's had two seasons end due to injury.
He's been on the TWolves, Charlotte Hornets, 76ers, Mavs and Cavs summer league teams.

Signed with the 76ers on July 25, 2016, but was waived on October 24 after appearing in four preseason games.

vs Simmons who has kicked ass in a small number of NBA games, most notably vs the Golden Phaggots including the playoffs.

[Play Boban]

This is awesome.

[Joseph Kony]

Ya summer league always translates into NBA success. :rolleyes Jimmer!
He's had two seasons end due to injury.
He's been on the TWolves, Charlotte Hornets, 76ers, Mavs and Cavs summer league teams.

Signed with the 76ers on July 25, 2016, but was waived on October 24 after appearing in four preseason games.

vs Simmons who has kicked ass in a small number of NBA games, most notably vs the Golden Phaggots including the playoffs.
you realize this is how simmons got on the team right? :lol fucking Faggs, stick to posting about gossip girl shit, you are trash at talking ball

[MultiTroll]

Posters on this forum are so fucking retarded, i swear. lol at anyone thinking Simmons was some kind of make or break impact player. dude was a decent backup but crofl at people thinking we're going to regret this or it's gonna be some big deal to bite us in the ass. Simmons had a few nice games here and there. Overall he was incredibly inconsistent. the fuck would we pay 10 million a year for 6/2/1 a game for a player who is already at his peak? :lmao :lmao
You mean like Green, Porker, Gasol, Mills and who else?
Not buying that Simmons has peaked either.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Can't wait till Kawhi leaves :lmao

Manure has officially cost us Boban and Simmons. Who the fuck knows how much the Spurs will pay him this time to make some donuts in the playoffs

what the fuck are you talking about? I mean smoking?

[MultiTroll]

you realize this is how simmons got on the team right? :lol fucking Faggs, stick to posting about gossip girl shit, you are trash at talking ball
Got on the team and then earned minutes by developing. The earlier poster said Paul is going to walk on the team and immediately equal Simmons.
So we're going to start all over with the same thing only go back in time to two years ago? WTF was the purpose in sticking with Simmons all this time?
Way to help Kawhi win a Chip.
Stick to fabricating bullshit.

[Joseph Kony]

because he's a marginal bench player you retard. "all this time" :lmao you mean two seasons? oh yeah what an incredible investment on that minimum salary and low mpg for two years

[MultiTroll]

because he's a marginal bench player you retard. "all this time" :lmao you mean two seasons? oh yeah what an incredible investment on that minimum salary and low mpg for two years
So the Spurs are going to repeat the exact same thing with Paul? Oh that's going to help improve the team.
"But but but he played well in summer league" you say.
Tfo.

[playblair]

885581499046666240

[spursmvp]

No, he wasn't. Why do people keep insisting on pushing that lie? :lol

So who was? Manu played decently but everyone else shat the bed completely. We gave patty and LMA 12 mill and max contract but can't give Simmons 9 mil?

[purist]

unlike posters on this board, the spurs FO does not evaluate cap space and roster within the vacuum of a single season. thankfully, they've proven to have greater perspective

[rjv]

885581499046666240 guess he must have forgotten how he handicapped himself with an unreliable jump shot.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The $14,000,000 man
http://a.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=/i/headshots/nba/players/full/272.png&w=350&h=254

7ppg on 39FG% in the RS
6ppg on 41FG% and 22 3P% in the playoffs

Trying to make sense of TheGreatYacht's garbage is like fucking for the cause of virginity

[tonight...you]

Trying to make sense of TheGreatYacht's garbage is like fucking for the cause of virginity
:lol

[ducks]

885581499046666240

excuse me simmons leonard is better then you
deserves more shots

[marinoman]

excuse me simmons leonard is better then you
deserves more shots
He's a better player than green tho and deserves more minutes than him

[Texas_Ranger]

885581499046666240
Well, bye...

[UZER]

885581499046666240

I believe it. Pop doesn't like athletic role players. He hates guys that take a chance and go out of the system to make a play. He wants guys that stay in their box. Simmons is too athletic for pops liking.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

The Spears reporting is interesting. For all of Pop's "liberal" views, he sure does seem to put the thuggish players in the dog house in a hurry.

[Joseph Kony]

So the Spurs are going to repeat the exact same thing with Paul? Oh that's going to help improve the team.
"But but but he played well in summer league" you say.
Tfo.
yeah cus handing out 10 million to a marginal bench player already at his peak averaging 6/2/1 a game is totally going to improve the team. you're an idiot :lol like i said, stick to posting ralphie memes or posting about the kardashians numb nuts, you dont know shit about ball despite routinely gargling them

[ducks]

simmons drives better better jump shooter but simmons is not a better three point shooter
I would say green edges simmons out on d

[ducks]

pop did the same thing with tp not just simmons and demond

[marinoman]

Green is a good 3 point shooter not great, way too hot and cold. Plus he can't create his own shot

[MultiTroll]

I believe it. Pop doesn't like athletic role players. He hates guys that take a chance and go out of the system to make a play. He wants guys that stay in their box. Simmons is too athletic for pops liking.


The Spears reporting is interesting. For all of Pop's "liberal" views, he sure does seem to put the thuggish players in the dog house in a hurry.
Seems like the real reasons for Simms being renounced.

[bic50]

885581499046666240
His can't be true. Spurs are the reason he's even in the NBA and now they handicapped him?

[ducks]

Green is a good 3 point shooter not great, way too hot and cold. Plus he can't create his own shot

true they both have their weaknesses
I wanted simmons back


pop does not like manu drives turnovers but pop now trust him
simmons was too impatient for that

[MultiTroll]

His can't be true. Spurs are the reason he's even in the NBA and now they handicapped him?
The two don't have to be mutually exclusive.

[TheGreatYacht]

His can't be true. Spurs are the reason he's even in the NBA and now they handicapped him?
It's not true. RC was literally just on TV 3 days ago saying they were trying to bring back Simmons. Why would they do that if he hates Pop lmfao

[cd98]

885581499046666240

Hmmm, I always thought it was his turnovers and erratic play that held him back.

[Pocho La Pantera]

Can't wait till Kawhi leaves :lmao

Manure has officially cost us Boban and Simmons. Who the fuck knows how much the Spurs will pay him this time to make some donuts in the playoffs this stupid bastatd manages to put Manu in every fuckn post, :sleep

[Blake]

If Simmons had a solid 3 point shot I think the Spurs pay him big

[MultiTroll]

Gregg Popovich: Jonathon Simmons Was ‘In a Category By Himself’
Read more at http://www.slamonline.com/nba/gregg-popovich-jonathon-simmons-category-by-himself/#7iQwGvyXVGr67T3k.99

[MultiTroll]

Gregg Popovich Sees Much to Like in Jonathon Simmons
Feb 2016

“He’s pretty fearless,” Popovich said of Simmons prior to a win in Dallas last week. “He just goes and plays. It’s kind of like Manu [Ginobili]. He just dives into the game and he competes. He’s really got great athletic skills and he’s learning the game. Quick learner, good worker, he’s got a chance to be a longtime player in the league if he pays attention and sticks to it.”

https://www.todaysfastbreak.com/nba-west/san-antonio-spurs/gregg-popovich-sees-much-like-jonathon-simmons/

[TheGreatYacht]

Can't find any proof that tweet has any validity. Marc Spears hasn't posted a thing from what I've seen

[MannyIsGod]

Well, did not see this coming. Simmons was handicapped. That's the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of being a RFA. If the Spurs did offer him 9 million, then he fucked up by turning it down. I'm glad the guy believes in himself, and he doens't owe the Spurs shit, but if this went down like it looks like it did then I'm dissapointed in him. Spurs must really be looking to make a move next summer if they refused the Chandler deal. I think that would have been a nice piece. I do think its somewhat stupid they just give up their leverage, though. Why just let him become an UFA?

[SpurOutofTownFan]

this stupid bastatd manages to put Manu in every fuckn post, :sleep

He's reaching - I mean he talks like he actually has an idea about the decisions that are made at a place such as the Spurs' FO level. A model franchise.

[rjv]

Can't find any proof that tweet has any validity. Marc Spears hasn't posted a thing from what I've seen i saw him say it on ESPN a while ago with whatever show he is on with rachel nichols. but he also seemed like he had no idea of what he was talking about.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Well, did not see this coming. Simmons was handicapped. That's the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of being a RFA. If the Spurs did offer him 9 million, then he fucked up by turning it down. I'm glad the guy believes in himself, and he doens't owe the Spurs shit, but if this went down like it looks like it did then I'm dissapointed in him. Spurs must really be looking to make a move next summer if they refused the Chandler deal. I think that would have been a nice piece. I do think its somewhat stupid they just give up their leverage, though. Why just let him become an UFA?

It's clear Spurs game plan is to attempt to compete the best they can now with both knowns and unknowns (such as the extend of TP's injury and recovery) and have enough cap space to play 2018 comfortably while the other 3-4 big teams in the West will be in cap hell next year. This is very Spurs-y IMO

[Spurtacular]

Spurs are losing athleticism fast; first Dedmon, now this.