Report: Spurs sign Brandon Paul

[Uriel]

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[raybies]

CIA Pop, weakening a strong team in the playoffs... Hopefully he suits up for us tonight

[RD2191]

Breaking news, you're a regular ol Woj.

[lebomb]

He has done alright during the summer league. I fail to see where he was a star. His game high was 21pts. The other games? 14 and 8 I believe. *shrugs*

[lebomb]

The Spurs finally got a Paul!!!!

[ColinB]

RC probably thinks he just signed Chris Paul.

[picnroll]

Guess they called in the full brain trust to Vegas to shore up the team.

[NASpurs]

RC probably thinks he just signed Chris Paul.

He's probably on one of his drunken stupors.

[TheGreatYacht]

2009-2013: 38FG% in College
2014: 40FG% in Europe
2016: 38FG% in Europe
2017: 38FG% in Europe

RC Drunkford probably saw his twitter handle was @BP3 and thought he pulled one off on Morey

[Truth4sale$]

Forbes is the shooter, this guy is the slasher. Tiny backcourt. The Spurs tallest guard is Murray at 6'5. Spurs will roll out a all guard lineup for the 4th quarter next year.

[DaBears]

From the YouTube views Brandon Paul can diffidently shoot the long ball & decent lane defender for wing player.

[Ice009]

How tall is this guy?

[Spur|n|Austin]

How tall is this guy?

6'4''

[Budkin]

Another fucking guard while we renounce rights to Simmons. WTF

[Ice009]

6'4''

Fuck, another short guy. Great.

[SpurPadre]

Another old rookie lol.

[DAF86]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oozw5_Xp4E

Sweet looking stroke, tbh.

[SPURt]

What are the Spurs doing? I don't understand these moves

[picnroll]

Fuck, another short guy. Great.

6' 10 1/4" wingspan. More than 2" longer than Klay Thompson.

[Seventyniner]

He better wear jersey #3.

[coachmac87]

6' 10 1/4" wingspan. More than 2" longer than Klay Thompson.

But Klay Thompson is 2-3" taller

[TheGreatYacht]

How can Kawhi leave Fat Antonio to go to LA and be close to his family. I just don't see it. PATFO have really outdone themselves with the amount of talent they're surrounding him with.

Jaron blossomgame, Derrick white, Brandon Paul, Danny Green, Dejounte Murray, 35yr old Tony Parker, No Achilles Rudy Gay, unhappy Aldridge, Kyle Anderson, Bryn Forbe$, King Joffrey and no shoulders Bertans

:lobt2:Thank you PATFO!

[raybies]

gonna watch his game against the Warriors to give a scouting report.

[jhfenton]

But Klay Thompson is 2-3" taller
Does Klay block shots with his head?

[szkorhetz]

Why not Hanga?

[Chinook]

Does Klay block shots with his head?

Higher shoulders means higher standing reach.

[coachmac87]

Does Klay block shots with his head?

You're dumb

[jermaine]

I kinda like this guy... Older an has been in an impressive league... so he's very mature. Shoot his ass off, an plays defense. I low key like this.

[Pavlov]

gonna watch his game against the Warriors to give a scouting report.Will be pleased. Easy track left armband.

[Eaglenole2002]

Watched Paul a ton at Illinois. He is an NBA athlete and when locked in I have no doubt he can be a rotational player. The problem is consistency, particularly with his outside shooting.

[picnroll]

You're dumb
Or rebound? Or contest shots? Or go for deflections and steals?

[Chinook]

Woj says Paul's deal is guaranteed. He's not going to be in Austin more than a handful of games if at all.

[coachmac87]

Woj says Paul's deal is guaranteed. He's not going to be in Austin more than a handful of games if at all.

Wtf you think is going on??

[Robz4000]

The fuck is this signing?

[Chinook]

Wtf you think is going on??

I don't think the Spurs made this move intending to re-sign Simmons. I think they have replaced him, but they may keep him around if he's cheap enough. As it is, he can no longer dive on the QO if nothing better comes along.

[TheGreatYacht]

The fuck is this signing?
Ginobili's replacement :tu

[Eaglenole2002]

Paul got way to 3-point crazy his senior year, averaging 6 attempts a game. He only shot 32 percent, but improved a lot from 2.

[coachmac87]

I don't think the Spurs made this move intending to re-sign Simmons. I think they have replaced him, but they may keep him around if he's cheap enough. As it is, he can no longer dive on the QO if nothing better comes along.

You're the cap guru...what's left to offer him and Pau?

I agree he could be already replaced cause I think White, Paul are more SG's..can't forget Forbes too

[hater]

So now we wont get blown out 4-1. S worriers

Well have 1 non blowout loss

[BatManu20]

Another Guard?

[Chinook]

You're the cap guru...what's left to offer him and Pau?

I agree he could be already replaced cause I think White, Paul are more SG's..can't forget Forbes too

I don't know how much tenure Paul has in the NBA. This shouldn't really move the needle, though. They should have enough left for them to be signed to decent deals. If Jon walks, they can give Pau a deal like he opted out of

[DAF86]

But Klay Thompson is 2-3" taller

So? You don't grab rebounds with the top of your head.

[BatManu20]

But.. but.. Derrick Rose :cry

[Big Empty]

So? You don't grab rebounds with the top of your head.
LMAO

[Pavlov]

Save time. Watch third quarter of Monday game. All will be known.

[coachmac87]

So? You don't grab rebounds with the top of your head.

Do you not know what a standing reach is?

[cd98]

Training camp fodder?

[DAF86]

Do you not know what a standing reach is?

Yeah, you should have talked about that instead of height, tbh.

If Paul has a "2 advantage in terms of wingspan and Thompson has a "2 in terms of height, it means they are about the same in standing reach, which means that this Paul guy presents decent size for a SG.

[picnroll]

Brandon Paul wingspan 6' 10 1/4" standing reach 8' 7 1/2" standing vert 33.5" max very 39.5"
Klay Thompson wingspan 6' 8" standing vert 26.5" max vert 31.5"

[Chinook]

Brandon Paul wingspan 6' 10 1/4" standing reach 8'2" standing vert 33.5" max very 39.5"
Klay Thompson wingspan 6' 8" standing vert 26.5" max vert 31.5"

What's Klay's standing reach?

[coachmac87]

Yeah, you should have talked about that instead of height, tbh.

If Paul has a "2 advantage in terms of wingspan and Thompson has a "2 in terms of height, it means they are about the same in standing reach, which means that this Paul guy presents decent size for a SG.

Didn't think I'd have to explain that tbh...that's common sense.

But fine if y'all wanna say he's the same size as Klay Thompson due to his wingspan y'all have at it :lmao

[horsielove]

that's a sweet looking jumpshot right there, tbh.

[NickiRasgo]

At least it's Paul.

[mo7888]

What's Klay's standing reach?

I think it was like like 8'7" or 7.5

[SpurPadre]

Hopefully, he turns out to be a better version of Gary Neal who can defend shoeless players.

[mo7888]

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-measurements-0

[Atl Spur]

I like this kids defense or willingness to play defense.....

[picnroll]

What's Klay's standing reach?

8' 7 1/2" same as Paul. Paul's a much better leaper.

[timtonymanu]

So why draft White when we keep picking up so many guards? Wtf RC

[sananspursfan21]

So this is what all those "Spurs interested in Paul" articles meant :wakeup

[DAF86]

Didn't think I'd have to explain that tbh...that's common sense.

But fine if y'all wanna say he's the same size as Klay Thompson due to his wingspan y'all have at it :lmao

If you are 6'4'' but have a longer standing reach is better than be 6'6'' and have a shorter standing reach. Everybody with an ounce of gray matter can figure that out, tbh. Aren't you supposed to be a coach? :lol

[mo7888]

8' 7 1/2" same as Paul. Paul's a much better leaper.

Paul's standing reach was only 8' 2" C'mon people...

[Chinook]

8' 7 1/2" same as Paul. Paul's a much better leaper.
8-7.5 is almost six inches greater than Paul's.

[mo7888]

If you are 6'4'' but have a 6'11'' standing reach is better than be 6'6'' and have a 6'10'' standing reach. Everybody with an ounce of gray matter can figure that out, tbh. Aren't you supposed to be a coach? :lol

Thompson's standing reach is 5.5 inches more than Paul.

[DAF86]

Thompson's standing reach is 4.5 inches more than Paul.

I'm not talking about this case in particular since I don't know the standing reach of either guy, I'm just talking in general.

[itzsoweezee]

This is the Simmons replacement? Seems like a bad idea

[picnroll]

8-7.5 is almost six inches greater than Paul's.

Yes got Paul's reach wrong. But Paul's vertical makes up the difference to an extent. But obviously that's one part of the picture and I don't expect Paul to be equal to Thompson.

[Chinook]

This is the Simmons replacement? Seems like a bad idea

Why? a) Simmons wasn't very good and b) PATFO have no problem finding those types of guys.

[duncan2150]

8-7.5 is almost six inches greater than Paul's.

you're right but since thomson is taller that's logic.

[TheGreatYacht]

Why? a) Simmons wasn't very good and b) PATFO have no problem finding those types of guys.
Says a lot about the shooting guards on this roster, since he was our best one.

[coachmac87]

Yes got Paul's reach wrong. But Paul's vertical makes up the difference to an extent. But obviously that's one part of the picture and I don't expect Paul to be equal to Thompson.

Equal in size??? Cause that's what you were implying..

[Joseph Kony]

why is Klaynus being discussed in this thread? :lol

[itzsoweezee]

Why? a) Simmons wasn't very good and b) PATFO have no problem finding those types of guys.

What's so great about this guy. Physically, he's definitely a downgrade.

[Chinook]

Says a lot about the shooting guards on this roster, since he was our best one.


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[Chinook]

What's so great about this guy. Physically, he's definitely a downgrade.

Why is he a downgrade physically? He's just as much of a leaper as Simmons is.

[xellos88330]

Is this guy going to be available today for Summer league play, or is he done?

[DAF86]

What's so great about this guy. Physically, he's definitely a downgrade.

He seems to be a pretty good shooter, something the Spurs desperately need. And for shooter he seems to be pretty good in terms of athleticism and ball-handling abilitites too.

[TheGreatYacht]

https://www.boat-ed.com/nasbla_cre_mem/nasbla_cre_mem_specific_images/graphics/man-on-capsized-boat.jpg
Nice pic of you on the Jean-Charles & Danny boat

[itzsoweezee]

Why is he a downgrade physically? He's just as much of a leaper as Simmons is.

He's a shooting guard with the size of a point guard. Simmons, on the other hand, is big and long.

[itzsoweezee]

He seems to be a pretty good shooter, something the Spurs desperately need. And for shooter he seems to be pretty good in terms of athleticism and ball-handling abilitites too.

I hope you're right. His summer league sitting stats I saw were not impressive.

[rjv]

his pre-draft analysis from a few years back is an interesting read:

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brandon-Paul-5792/

[Chinook]

He's a shooting guard with the size of a point guard. Simmons, on the other hand, is big and long.

Simmons has relatively short arms.

[PublicOption]

Dumb..desperate and why?

[Chinook]

Dumb..desperate and why?

Why on Earth is them signing a 15th man either dumb or desperate?

[Pavlov]

Monday game sit right in archive. Only need quarter 3. Left armband guy.

[Keepin' it real]

What are the Spurs doing? I don't understand these moves

Not surprising .. you're not an NBA GM or front office guy. You're out of your element ... like most people here.

[rastaspur]

Simmons replacement I reckon. Seems to have a nice stroke and a spring in his step from the highlights of summer league.

It might be a two way contract.

[NickiRasgo]

I see some Dion Waiters in his game. Hope his game will be translated to NBA immediately and hoping his defense is decent.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Looks like Dimmons game with a better jump shot. And at a better price.

[Keepin' it real]

that's a sweet looking jumpshot right there, tbh.

Mi abuelita has better form.

[apalisoc_9]

How can Kawhi leave Fat Antonio to go to LA and be close to his family. I just don't see it. PATFO have really outdone themselves with the amount of talent they're surrounding him with.

Jaron blossomgame, Derrick white, Brandon Paul, Danny Green, Dejounte Murray, 35yr old Tony Parker, No Achilles Rudy Gay, unhappy Aldridge, Kyle Anderson, Bryn Forbe$, King Joffrey and no shoulders Bertans

:lobt2:Thank you PATFO!

Omg lol

[spurraider21]

Another fucking guard while we renounce rights to Simmons. WTF
yeah, how dare we renounce a guard as we sign a guard

[SPURt]

Not surprising .. you're not an NBA GM or front office guy. You're out of your element ... like most people here.
You're absolutely right. I have no problem being an average fan. Lol, this forum sometimes

[duncan2150]

his pre-draft analysis from a few years back is an interesting read:

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Brandon-Paul-5792/

Nice and you have this one also http://www.nbadraft.net/players/brandon-paul

[NASpurs]

Fuck it, I'm on the bandwagon of this dude. I hope he gets some playing time.

http://kingjamesgospel.com/2017/07/13/brandon-paul-leaves-cleveland-cavaliers-summer-league-san-antonio-spurs-cavs/

While averaging 15.6 points, 5.3 rebounds, 2.7 assists and 1.7 steals per game while shooting 47.1 percent from the field and 39.1 percent from three-point range across seven games, Paul averaged 14.3 points, 5.0 rebounds, 2.3 assists and 2.3 steals for the Cavs’ Summer League squad while shooting 47.1 percent from the field and 31.6 percent from three-point range.

Paul possesses a smooth offensive game. With solid ball-handling and the ability to make pull-up jumpers if he doesn’t make it to the rim, where he has a quick leap to finish above the tin, he’s been an effective scorer not only throughout the Summer League but against players like the Golden State Warriors’ Patrick McCaw, a player who received minutes in the 2017 NBA Finals and was a rookie sensation in the eyes of the Warriors’ fan base throughout the 2016-2017 season.

Defensively, Paul’s ability to play his defenders close without fouling is accentuated by his tenacity and hustle. Against the most elite players in the NBA, Paul isn’t likely to stop them but will make it as hard as he possibly can for them to score. That’s a defensive trait that may not show up statistically but is admirable; young players making it to the NBA in the manner that Paul is, as a Summer League pickup, are the players that are grinders. Those grinders are players that you’ll need on your team at some point in the season.

Paul is a grinder who should be able to score effectively against second unit players and, if he’s anything like Jonathan Simmons, score effectively period.
Being able capable of making the tough jumpers as well as having the ability to consistently create space for himself to get off an in-rhythm field goal attempt is a bonus for the 26-year-old Illinois native.

[rastaspur]

Dumb..desperate and why?

After doing some research on him, looks like a solid signing. He's got nba level athleticism, should be able to create his own shot, might be able to run point in a pinch, and has a good looking shooting stroke.

Low risk, high reward. I'm on board.

Still want another big though who can block a shot.

[james evans]

Forbes is the shooter, this guy is the slasher. Tiny backcourt. The Spurs tallest guard is Murray at 6'5. Spurs will roll out a all guard lineup for the 4th quarter next year.
don't put it past popovich of having an all guard lineup in the 4th quarter of a game 6 in the playoffs with danny Green at center

[SpurOutofTownFan]

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It's just so bad the Spurs traded him a few years back

[Budkin]

yeah, how dare we renounce a guard as we sign a guard

Oops, meant to say mediocre guard. Also Simmons can play the 3.

[Chinook]

Oops, meant to say mediocre guard. Also Simmons can play the 3.

Damn, you're right. Now the Spurs only have five players who can play the three instead of six.

[rjv]

if spurs see paul as a less expensive version of j simmons, and they balked at anything to do with chandler's contract, i think this can also be interpreted as the spurs having their eyes set on someone in summer 2018.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

if spurs see paul as a less expensive version of j simmons, and they balked at anything to do with chandler's contract, i think this can also be interpreted as the spurs having their eyes set on someone in summer 2018.

LBJ and whoever he would like to come with him

[rastaspur]

I just watched the Cleveland v. Golden state summer league game. Passed the eye test as an nba athlete for sure.

Stroke looked good. Good athlete. Explosive in transition. Defense looked good when focused and locked in.

He looked real shaky bringing the ball up when mccaw pressured him once. He was lucky to get the ball out of his hands after fumbling it and then immediately comes off a screen and gets it right back and buries a three in the face of mccaw and bell.

Needs to work on his defensive fundamentals. At the end of the half he was the deep defender back in charge of stopping penetration and just leaves the middle to go guard the wing for a three point shot and leaves the path to the basket wide open. Pop would have flipped out on him for that.

Didn't run out plays coming down the court on defense once or twice. Just seemed a little spaced out at times and not paying attention on defense.

[boutons_deux]

will he be able to switch Spurs for the SL playoffs?

[UZER]

Guess we can expect him to contribute in three years... If he gets over himself.

[rudwick]

Looks like we're tanking.

[Keepin' it real]

Looks like we're tanking.

Yup, only 55 wins and 2nd or 3rd round exit coming. Total garbage!

[BSfromTX]

Roger mason 2.0?

[apalisoc_9]

Assuming Simmons leaves...Only Parker, and Anderson are the two players that aren't natural shooters.

Everyone can let it fly now assuming they play small.

[BatManu20]

xXTuoi5YHuw

[ElNono]

Another Summer League star? smh

[TheGreatYacht]

Another Summer League star? smh
Another? Forbes is carrying white American girls and Livio Jean-Charles out there. RC doing #summerleague power moves

[ceperez]

I wonder if Brandon Paul signing is a reaction of Murray's poor play? I mean he signed a guaranteed contract right?

[Mal]

I wonder if Brandon Paul signing is a reaction of Murray's poor play? I mean he signed a guaranteed contract right?

Rather busts on Simmons and Hanga contracts. You will have Green, Forbes, Paul at SG, if Manu comes back, he'll wont take many minutes from this guys.

[Big Empty]

anyone know his contract details?

[DaBears]

What are the Spurs doing? I don't understand these moves

Its not our job to understand what there doing, that's their job & what they get paid to do to, which is put a winning product on the court and stay competitive to compete for championships . Our jobs as fans its to cheer them on, So as long as they are winning lets not complain.

[mookie2001]

Its not our job to understand what there doing, that's their job & what they get paid to do to, which is put a winning product on the court and stay competitive to compete for championships . Our jobs as fans its to cheer them on, So as long as they are winning lets not complain.
Thanks for breaking that down for us

[r0drig0lac]

Fuck, another short guy. Great.

[SPURt]

Its not our job to understand what there doing, that's their job & what they get paid to do to, which is put a winning product on the court and stay competitive to compete for championships . Our jobs as fans its to cheer them on, So as long as they are winning lets not complain.
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[Chinook]

Its not our job to understand what there doing, that's their job & what they get paid to do to, which is put a winning product on the court and stay competitive to compete for championships . Our jobs as fans its to cheer them on, So as long as they are winning lets not complain.

:rolleyes

Our "job" is to pay their asses. In order to do that, we have to be interested in their product. The motivations we use to maintain that interest is under our discretion, to PATFO's. So if we want to hate on them, we can. And they shouldn't give a shit about what we think unless we stop paying them. If we do, you better believe that making us "understand what there doing" is going to shoot way up on their list or priorities.

[DaBears]

:rolleyes

Our "job" is to pay their asses. In order to do that, we have to be interested in their product. The motivations we use to maintain that interest is under our discretion, to PATFO's. So if we want to hate on them, we can. And they shouldn't give a shit about what we think unless we stop paying them. If we do, you better believe that making us "understand what there doing" is going to shoot way up on their list or priorities.

Not to belittle or dismiss your deserved opinion.. But stop & think for a moment! They have produced a winning product for this great city of SA for 20 seasons and we've been right there to compete for rings in each season. During these great runs through the years they've made good decisions on & off the court ( styles of play, signing players you've never heard of & and some washed up ones that make you question why ) even with all that they have produced a winning product. Believe in that they know what there doing. There is a reason for the SPURS have the mantra of " Their the GOLD STANDARD " in basketball spoken by all across the NBA land... Cheer them on and ride the wave until we actually have something to complain about...

[mookie2001]

It's a message board..

[DaBears]

It's a message board..

I forget its the offseason, all we have is the Summer league to keep us from pulling what little hair we have left out.

:lobt2::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt2:

[tonight...you]

I thought our "job" was to bitch and whine over every single thing this team does...
And insult each other every chance we get. They pay's rotten, but the hours stink.

[Chinook]

Not to belittle or dismiss your deserved opinion.. But stop & think for a moment! They have produced a winning product for this great city of SA for 20 seasons and we've been right there to compete for rings in each season. During these great runs through the years they've made good decisions on & off the court ( styles of play, signing players you've never heard of & and some washed up ones that make you question why ) even with all that they have produced a winning product. Believe in that they know what there doing. There is a reason for the SPURS have the mantra of " Their the GOLD STANDARD " in basketball spoken by all across the NBA land... Cheer them on and ride the wave until we actually have something to complain about...

No. We can bitch if we want to. We pay PATFO, not the other way around. The team runs on our money, not our praise. And if we want to complain while we pay, they have no business stopping us.

[BatManu20]

It's official.


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[BatManu20]

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[NASpurs]

:lol BP3

[BatManu20]

:lol BP3


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[BatManu20]

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[Ice009]

Sweet, BP. I'm very intrigued by this guy.

Is he now allowed to play for the Spurs Summer League squad?

[RD2191]

His father is Cliff Paul TBH

[BatManu20]

His father is Cliff Paul TBH

Just checked and this actually true. :lol

[Ice009]

His father is Cliff Paul TBH

lol, really? This is bizarre. He also goes by BP3. This is some weird stuff. It looks like the Spurs truly were interested in signing a player with the last name of Paul no matter what. RC wanted a Paul, he got a Paul.

[keithington1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEtl56jUMAALodp?format=jpg&name=large
Do the letters and spur on the jersey look cleaner and upgraded?

[Prose]

But Klay Thompson is 2-3" taller

"you don't block shots with your head, you block shots with your hands" - sean ****** lol

[BatManu20]

Do the letters and spur on the jersey look cleaner and upgraded?

Na they're the exact same tbh (which is fine bc they're some of the best uni's in basketball). Lighting might just be effecting the logo.


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[hooperflash]

We haven't seen the Nike jerseys yet

[ace3g]

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[BatManu20]

What is that poster in the background tbh ^

[ace3g]

What is that poster in the background tbh ^

Looks like metrics for their '14 Championship team.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEt4rH6UMAAZyRY.jpg

[BatManu20]

Looks like metrics for their '14 Championship team.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEt4rH6UMAAZyRY.jpg

Nice :tu

[ace3g]

Oh and with Dedmon not returning next season, he really can be BP3!!!

[dbestpro]

My guess is Paul will get a two way contract. The NBA’s new two-way contracts allow teams to expand their rosters by two spots to 17 total, and then use those additional spots to house intriguing young players who can develop in the G-League.
A player with a two-way contract primarily plays on a G-League salary for the team’s independent G-League affiliate. The two-way contract also allows that player to be “called up” to the NBA team for up to 45 days of the season and earn an NBA salary for that time.

[bic50]

Now Kawhi won't be the only player in the league that still has cornrows

[Chinook]

Now Kawhi won't be the only player in the league that still has cornrows

Got some bad news for you...

[Chinook]

My guess is Paul will get a two way contract. The NBA’s new two-way contracts allow teams to expand their rosters by two spots to 17 total, and then use those additional spots to house intriguing young players who can develop in the G-League.
A player with a two-way contract primarily plays on a G-League salary for the team’s independent G-League affiliate. The two-way contract also allows that player to be “called up” to the NBA team for up to 45 days of the season and earn an NBA salary for that time.

He just got a guaranteed deal. Even if he gets cut, he's no longer eligible for a two-way with SA.

[ace3g]

I'm sure others have asked -- can BP3 play for the Spurs in the next SL game?

[Truth4sale$]

Spurs must really see something in him to give a guarantee to him, as opposed to a camp invite. Insurance against Manu not returning and Green leaving next year.

[bic50]

Spurs must really see something in him to give a guarantee to him, as opposed to a camp invite. Insurance against Manu not returning and Green leaving next year.
They did the same for Simmons.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Spurs must really see something in him to give a guarantee to him, as opposed to a camp invite. Insurance against Manu not returning and Green leaving next year.

He's related to Cliff Paul, and he wears No. 3. That's all RC needed to know to buy into the State Farm.

[Uriel]

Man, if you had told me before the summer that the Spurs would be able to sign a guy named Paul who wears jersey #3, I would've cried tears of joy.

[Truth4sale$]

Spurs must really see something in him to give a guarantee to him, as opposed to a camp invite. Insurance against Manu not returning and Green leaving next year.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Man, if you had told me before the summer that the Spurs would be able to sign a guy named Paul who wears jersey #3, I would've cried tears of joy.

Well, you can start crying now.

[TheDoctor]

Looks like metrics for their '14 Championship team.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEt4rH6UMAAZyRY.jpg
#CornrowsBros

[TheDoctor]

Spurs must really see something in him to give a guarantee to him, as opposed to a camp invite. Insurance against Manu not returning and Green leaving next year.

They looked him in the eye and what they saw in the reflection was... despair.

[callo1]

Been pouring over video the last couple days and I am really excited about this guy. Always seems to be on balance when he shoots, and he has a gorgeous looking shot.

Looks to be strong enough to finish in traffic, and is a fairly good passer as well.

Can't wait to see him play in person.

[TheGreatYacht]

Hope he enjoys losing playing time to Manure and his mandatory minutes.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgKCwRiGIAc

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXTuoi5YHuw

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MS4d91otQ

[ceperez]

Been pouring over video the last couple days and I am really excited about this guy. Always seems to be on balance when he shoots, and he has a gorgeous looking shot.

Looks to be strong enough to finish in traffic, and is a fairly good passer as well.

Can't wait to see him play in person.

He plays bigger than his listed height. He got that Kawhi attribute where he's big and has a lot of length. He's going to get a lot of new moves learning from Leonard.

Murray in contrast doesn't have the weight and is easily pushed around. Murray also has no shot.

[dbestpro]

See him playing plenty minutes in Austin. Spurs are going to push Leonard to SG with Gay at SF, and Green coming off the bench. White will join him there.
Mills, Murray, Manu, Leonard, Gay, Green, Anderson, and Forbes are all ahead in the pecking order. Just don't see much room on the 12 man roster.

[CGD]

Can he defend though?

[coachmac87]

See him playing plenty minutes in Austin. Spurs are going to push Leonard to SG with Gay at SF, and Green coming off the bench. White will join him there.
Mills, Murray, Manu, Leonard, Gay, Green, Anderson, and Forbes are all ahead in the pecking order. Just don't see much room on the 12 man roster.


I think Mills-Green-Kawhi-Gay-LMA will be starting line up on opening day..

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

See him playing plenty minutes in Austin. Spurs are going to push Leonard to SG with Gay at SF, and Green coming off the bench. White will join him there.
Mills, Murray, Manu, Leonard, Gay, Green, Anderson, and Forbes are all ahead in the pecking order. Just don't see much room on the 12 man roster.

It's more likely Gay starts at the four with LA. Pau anchors the second unit.

[ace3g]

886273248153014273

[BSfromTX]

Mils/ white/ paul
green/ Murray/ white
kawhi/ blossomgame/ green
gay/ Bertans/ JL
lma/ pau / JL

just a guess, but after summer league, I'm not so sure pop gives Murray much responsibility unless hemakes big changes in camp or preseason. Paul and white are showing a much higher maturity level right now

[ceperez]

Mils/ white/ paul
green/ Murray/ white
kawhi/ blossomgame/ green
gay/ Bertans/ JL
lma/ pau / JL

just a guess, but after summer league, I'm not so sure pop gives Murray much responsibility unless hemakes big changes in camp or preseason. Paul and white are showing a much higher maturity level right now

I think that's right. Paul has a lot more experience than Murray and will likely play more minutes than Murray.

White has only played a year of division I basketball but he's got better handles and shoots better than Murray. I think though that Murray and White will get the CoJo treatment and spend time in G-league.

[Poolboy5623]

Just add Murray on social media and you'll see where the problem is...dude acts like he's 16..

[dbestpro]

Gay is not a PF and can only play the position in limited minutes when they go to small ball. Gasol or another player who has yet to be signed will start at C. No way LMA survives playing extended minutes at center. For now C-Gasol. PF -LMA. SF-Gay, SG- Leonard, PG - Mills/Parker when he comes back. Green will be better suited to bring defense from the bench, and the team will get a better start offensively.

[NickiRasgo]

The more I watched a video of him, the more I liked this signing. Hope his game really translate I'm NBA. I see some Dion Waiters on his game and his shooting stroke (high arc) is really legit. He could actually give an effort on the defensive end too, see how many blocks he had in this game below against Sullinger's team:


https://youtu.be/OOfHjgzOMBs

Was wondering why he went undrafted though.

[ace3g]

Looks like he will get to wear #3.

885996102041956352

[ceperez]

Looks like he will get to wear #3.

885996102041956352

Yes!!! This is the Paul we are looking for, not C-P3 but a grade better: B-P3!!!

[cd98]

Spurs sending a message to Simmons like players that they are easily replaceable.

[TheGreatYacht]

Start him at SG right away. Send that bum Green a message for being satisfied with his declining mediocre game. Just like we used to do with Belinelli.

[BatManu20]

iyRWDzUuHqM

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEys0TwXYAASwzm?format=jpg&name=large

[-21-]

Watching his highlights, he kinda reminds me of CJ Miles and Tim Hardaway Jr. I like his off-ball movement. His shooting stroke also looks a lot like Chris Paul's. Definitely excited to see more of him.

[ceperez]

Highlights always look impressive.

Paul apparently spent 4 years in college.

He went undrafted in 2012 (that was one year after Leonard was drafted).

He spent a lot of time being injured.

Got waived several times by NBA teams. Also got waived by D-league team.

Played in Europe for several years. Perhaps that kind of seasoning is needed to become an NBA player. We don't know yet what kind of contract he got, but he may need to still compete for a roster spot.

His presence in the Spurs with the #3 will likely upset Chris Paul. It is like he's stealing his 'branding'. His dad and his brother are both named Cliff. I wonder if they are accountants.

[Spurtacular]

Based solely on watching one minute of highlights on YT, he looks better than Simmons.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUGhuCdUFHg

[keithington1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-5Br0FDLNE
VS. J Simms. @ 1:50 Paul swats Simmons.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-5Br0FDLNE
VS. J Simms. @ 1:50 Paul swats Simmons.

That's what I'm talking about. Simmons is just fucking dumb (lack of awareness).

[Joseph Kony]

Paul does have some game. He reminds me of simmons with slightly less slashing ability and more 3 point ability

[Ice009]

He looks pretty good. I don't get why Simmons got a shot in the NBA and Paul didn't until now. Again, it's just highlight videos, but he looks good. I always like a guy that can shoot. I think he has a higher ceiling than Simmons.

[ceperez]

Based solely on watching one minute of highlights on YT, he looks better than Simmons.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUGhuCdUFHg


Yeah looks good. A better basketball player than Simmons. Dribbles much better for sure. Shoots much better for sure. Seems to have a lot more moves than Simmons. With 6'10" wingspan, I think he'll have better defense than Simmons.

Of course, would have it been nice to have both Simmons and Paul in the team?????

[ace3g]

Only thing about Paul, we will have to live with the expectations that Pop won't play him in playoffs - year 1.

[CGD]

Seems to have good handles too, which always made me nervous with J.Simms (not Danny train wreck nervous, but still enough).

Folks here are being too harsh on J. Simms. I'm happy he got his money, and while he was here he did some good things. The fall out this summer wasn't great, but whatever.

[coachmac87]

Paul does have some game. He reminds me of simmons with slightly less slashing ability and more 3 point ability

Simmons is 2x the athlete wile Paul is 5x the shooter..

[Seventyniner]

Simmons is 2x the athlete wile Paul is 5x the shooter..

That speaks well for Paul, though. An off-ball player needs to be a credible threat from three to be rotation-worthy.

Still, I don't expect Brandon Paul to be anything more than a 14th-15th man his first year. If he surpasses that I will be surprised and pleased.

[coachmac87]

That speaks well for Paul, though. An off-ball player needs to be a credible threat from three to be rotation-worthy.

Still, I don't expect Brandon Paul to be anything more than a 14th-15th man his first year. If he surpasses that I will be surprised and pleased.


I think Paul could surprise some people...but it'll depend on how he does defensively that'll determine how much time he sees long term on the court..

Paul could be the most offensively talented guard on the team tho..

[Play Boban]

This guy is a joke. A bonafide scrub. Get him off my team.

[cjw]

This guy is a joke. A bonafide scrub. Get him off my team.

Says Mr. Play Boban. Though Boban is first in NBA history in PER. Gotta love garbage time

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He looks pretty good. I don't get why Simmons got a shot in the NBA and Paul didn't until now. Again, it's just highlight videos, but he looks good. I always like a guy that can shoot. I think he has a higher ceiling than Simmons.

Because Paul has very rarely shot even 40% anywhere he's been in his career.

[Ice009]

Because Paul has very rarely shot even 40% anywhere he's been in his career.

He's rarely shot anywhere over 40% from the field? I find that hard to believe as he looks like a good shooter, but I guess there is reasons why he hasn't been picked up. Darn, if he's not a decent shooter, then I don't really like the signing that much anymore. I will say that I don't care about percentages that much if he has a feel for shooting the ball and is improving at it. I don't think Simmons or Murray have a feel for shooting the ball at all.

[Chinook]

He's rarely shot anywhere over 40% from the field? I find that hard to believe as he looks like a good shooter, but I guess there is reasons why he hasn't been picked up. Darn, if he's not a decent shooter, then I don't really like the signing that much anymore. I will say that I don't care about percentages that much if he has a feel for shooting the ball and is improving at it. I don't think Simmons or Murray have a feel for shooting the ball at all.

He's right. Not in college, not overseas, only once in the d-league.

[Poolboy5623]

Should have signed Paul and Simmons imo

[Play Boban]

Says Mr. Play Boban. Though Boban is first in NBA history in PER. Gotta love garbage time
Boban is the most underrated player in NBA history tbh...

[TD 21]

Gay is not a PF and can only play the position in limited minutes when they go to small ball. Gasol or another player who has yet to be signed will start at C. No way LMA survives playing extended minutes at center. For now C-Gasol. PF -LMA. SF-Gay, SG- Leonard, PG - Mills/Parker when he comes back. Green will be better suited to bring defense from the bench, and the team will get a better start offensively.

The way this league is trending, Gay, like every big SF, who either doesn't have the clout to dictate otherwise or plays next to a top PF, who either can't or is blocked from sliding up to C, was always going to transition into more of a PF. All the Achilles tear did, was expedite it.

Marvin Williams, Draymond Green and Thaddeus Young, are full time starters who long ago made the permanent transition and he's taller than all of them (legit 6'9'' in shoes), in their weight class and only Williams is longer (by .5).

He'll be fine in most matchups and the few he won't be, they can help and/or limit his time in them.

Of course, this is all based on the premise that he's the full time starting PF, which I'm skeptical of.

[bklynspursfan]

Based solely on watching one minute of highlights on YT, he looks better than Simmons.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUGhuCdUFHg

Definitely looks like the more complete player. I just hope he's able to perform at a high level against much better competition.

Hope he gets some time though. If he can get acclimated quickly, you throw him in a lineup with a hopefully healthy Gay + Kawhi and Green and that's some decent length to throw with a lot of switching capabilities

[Spurtacular]

Definitely looks like the more complete player. I just hope he's able to perform at a high level against much better competition.

Hope he gets some time though. If he can get acclimated quickly, you throw him in a lineup with a hopefully healthy Gay + Kawhi and Green and that's some decent length to throw with a lot of switching capabilities

Too early to say. I never felt like Jonathan Simmons was the future anyways though.

[Eaglenole2002]

Lots of good info here...

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2017-07-19/pauls-summer-payoff.html

[ceperez]

Lots of good info here...

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illini-sports/mens-basketball/2017-07-19/pauls-summer-payoff.html

Good find!!! Thanks!

I think this is the game mentioned in the article:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXTuoi5YHuw

[ace3g]

888002326446911488

[benefactor]

888002326446911488
They really are hoping he's Simmons 2.0:lol

[tonight...you]

They really are hoping he's Simmons 2.0:lol
No they're not. They're hoping he's a more in control player with a better shot than Simmons.
They don't even play alike dude.

[ceperez]

888002326446911488

Excellent. He's a Spurs fan to begin with and his mom is too. The problem with Simmons was that he was a Houston Rockets fan.

Perhaps Spurs should only pick up players who have been Spurs fans to begin with!

[TheGreatYacht]

Excellent. He's a Spurs fan to begin with and his mom is too. The problem with Simmons was that he was a Houston Rockets fan.

Perhaps Spurs should only pick up players who have been Spurs fans to begin with!
Jesus Christ what an idiot.

Simmons was our second best player against the Rockets

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-MS4d91otQ

[Snaq O'Meal]

Excellent. He's a Spurs fan to begin with and his mom is too. The problem with Simmons was that he was a Houston Rockets fan.

Perhaps Spurs should only pick up players who have been Spurs fans to begin with!

Doesn't work that way for PATFO. They've already passed on a first team All-American, 2x ACC DPOY and ACC POY who professed to be a big Spurs fan that fills a position of need.

[ace3g]

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[SAGirl]

After hearing this rap song from Brandon Paul, I have to say I like him. :lol He was creative with his song. I bet he's got to be popular in the locker room with this talent.
http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/content/watch-brandon-paul-raps-hell-fight-the-rock-talk-back-to-coach-pop-for-an-nba-ring


Paul showed off his rapping talents to sing about what he'll do to get a ring.
From fighting Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, cryo-freeze himself, go to volcanic land of "Mordor" from "Lord of the Rings" to talking back to his new Head Coach Gregg Popovich and more.

[spursistan]

This dude has a place in the NBA, IMO..

[DAF86]

Better than Simmons.

[Ice009]

I love that he can play defense as I didn't know he was a good defender, and it also looks like he's a versatile offensive player. Really like him so far.

[John B]

Pops like him a lot. Getting a lot of minutes last game and tonight. Who's Simmons? :bobo

[Fireball]

Nice pick up by the FO tbh ... his three looks better than Simmons'

[jiggy_55]

Loving this guy, sound defense and can shoot the rock. Looking like a legit role player

[jyra]

I think he is a better defender than Simmons, his lateral foot speed is really impressive.

[Nathan89]

Another SG that should be higher up on the depth chart than 50Mills.

[NASpurs]

Another SG that should be higher up on the depth chart than 50Mills.

Patty “50” Mills? I like it.

[absoloot66]

Another SG that should be higher up on the depth chart than 50Mills.


Patty “50” Mills? I like it.

:lolWinner!

[TheRemix]

I really like how he was everywhere on defense and moved exactly to where he was supposed to be. High defense IQ player, need to see more of him

[LaMarcus Bryant]

It seems his rent's due motherfuckas

[Spur|n|Austin]

Another SG that should be higher up on the depth chart than 50Mills.

That's great :lol

[Ice009]

Another SG that should be higher up on the depth chart than 50Mills.

lol. You did it man. That's what we'll call him from now on.

And yes, Brandon Paul I thought should be getting more minutes. I really like what I've seen from him so far.

[Slippy]

I really like how he was everywhere on defense and moved exactly to where he was supposed to be. High defense IQ player, need to see more of him
Definitely. Had sweet stroke on the 3 too.

[BillMc]

Spurs may have signed the most useful Paul after all. Certainly per dollar he is.

[emanueldavidginobili]

I’m really surprised by Paul he actually looks like a polished player and looks like he has some playmaking ability also.

[LittleCriminal]

It seems his rent's due motherfuckas


https://bplusmovieblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/hey-stu-2.gif

[rjv]

Spurs may have signed the most useful Paul after all. Certainly per dollar he is. funny, but sad (for rockets fan) because it's probably true.

[superbigtime]

Patty “50” Mills? I like it.

[SupremeGuy]

Patty “50” Mills? I like it.And a new nickname hath been created.

[raybies]

Another SG that should be higher up on the depth chart than 50Mills.
dope! Gonna start using that now... :toast

[raybies]

I think he is a better defender than Simmons, his lateral foot speed is really impressive.
He's a polished player while Simmons is more raw. I want to see if Paul has the ability to play the PnR cause in today's NBA he would be more dangerous than Simms. He's a much better shooter and apparently passer. But yeah I mentioned something about his lateral quickness in the GT last night. I completely agree. He's tough as nails too. He played in the post against Olynk one possession, guarded Dragic... He's just a tough. Hope he's a Spur for a long time. Just don't know how all these guards factor into the equation cause even White has a great skill set.

[DAF86]

He's a polished player while Simmons is more raw. I want to see if Paul has the ability to play the PnR cause in today's NBA he would be more dangerous than Simms. He's a much better shooter and apparently passer. But yeah I mentioned something about his lateral quickness in the GT last night. I completely agree. He's tough as nails too. He played in the post against Olynk one possession, guarded Dragic... He's just a tough. Hope he's a Spur for a long time. Just don't know how all these guards factor into the equation cause even White has a great skill set.

In the game against the Raptors he ran two pick and rolls with LA to perfection. He set up an ally oop in one and a wide open 15 footer in the other.

[cd021]

He's a polished player while Simmons is more raw. I want to see if Paul has the ability to play the PnR cause in today's NBA he would be more dangerous than Simms. He's a much better shooter and apparently passer. But yeah I mentioned something about his lateral quickness in the GT last night. I completely agree. He's tough as nails too. He played in the post against Olynk one possession, guarded Dragic... He's just a tough. Hope he's a Spur for a long time. Just don't know how all these guards factor into the equation cause even White has a great skill set.

Judging by the last couple of games, he seems comfortable going off the dribble and also looks as though he has experience handling the ball in P&R situations based off the highlights i have seen of him. Add the ability to knock down pull up and spot up 3's consistently makes him a better fit than Simmons on offense.

[ninjaskrzypek]

dope! Gonna start using that now... :toast



From now on I will be calling Mills “Fifty”.

[raybies]

From now on I will be calling Mills “Fifty”.
well we already have fifty and that's the Admiral. Got to be 50mills

[illusioNtEk]

50 mills lol LOVE IT

[K...]

PAtty "stolen $50 mills"

[NASpurs]

It's a podcast with Brandon Paul and Alex Kennedy.

http://hoopshype.com/2017/10/26/brandon-paul-on-joining-the-spurs-2017-18-expectations-overseas-stints-san-antonios-culture-and-more/

In the latest episode of The HoopsHype Podcast, San Antonio Spurs guard Brandon Paul joins Alex Kennedy for a wide-ranging conversation. Some of the topics they discussed include…

0:30: What factored into Brandon’s free agency decision and why he ultimately joined the Spurs.

1:05: The Spurs are described as the model organization in all of professional sports. Brandon discusses his first impression of the franchise.

2:45: Brandon bounced around the NBA a bit prior to joining the Spurs. What did he learn from all of those short training-camp invites and Summer-League stints, and how frustrating was it back then to come so close to being in the NBA but come up short?

4:00: How different is this year’s experience with the Spurs, knowing he has some job security and can focus entirely on developing and fitting in?

5:20: For those who don’t know Brandon’s game, he shares what he’ll try to provide the Spurs and what the coaches have asked from him.

6:20: Brandon talks about how the team prepared for the season, how they looked behind the scenes and what makes Spurs teams so great year after year.

7:25: Gregg Popovich is obviously one of the best coaches in NBA history. What has Brandon’s experience with Pop been like so far, and how is he from a communication and teaching standpoint?

8:40: As a guard, it doesn’t get much better than learning from Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili. Brandon discusses how much they’ve helped him so far and what it’s like playing with them.

9:40: People are talking more about the Golden State Warriors, Houston Rockets and Oklahoma City Thunder when they discuss Western Conference contenders. Do the Spurs’ players feel overlooked a bit entering the season?

11:10: Brandon went undrafted and then had stints in Russia, Spain, Turkey and the D-League before making it to the NBA. He discusses his surprise over being undrafted and then breaks down each of his pre-NBA stints.

18:30: When a player goes from being successful overseas to signing a minimum contract in the NBA, a lot of fans don’t realize they’re taking a pay cut. Did Brandon consider staying overseas rather than making the jump to the NBA?

21:15: Brandon got signed after doing really well in Summer League, which is tough because every player is trying to showcase their game in a short amount of time. What was that experience like and how much pressure is there since there’s such a small window to make an impression?

22:35: Brandon discusses his offseason training and what specific aspects of his game he focused on improving.

23:45: San Antonio has one of the best international scouting departments, so they’re aware of pretty much every player doing well abroad. Does Brandon believe his stints overseas made him more appealing to the Spurs?

25:10: After college, Brandon immediately traveled the world and worked in several different countries where there was a culture shock and language barrier. He discusses how that changed him as a person and helped him mature.

26:25: Rudy Gay was a splashy signing for San Antonio this summer. He’s coming off of the Achilles’ injury, but he’s obviously very talented and people are excited to see how Pop will use him and what he’ll do within the Spurs’ system and culture. Brandon discusses how Rudy has looked behind the scenes, how he’s approaching this season and what kind of production he expects from Rudy.

27:45: Kawhi Leonard is one of those freak-of-nature players who does crazy things pretty regularly. How has Brandon’s opinion of Kawhi changed now that he’s seeing him up close on a daily basis rather than as an outsider?

29:50: Kawhi is known for being a quiet guy; is he like that around the team as well? And who have been the vocal leaders of this team so far?

32:00: Brandon jokes about how his NBA 2K18 likeness looks nothing like him.

34:40: Brandon and Alex share their favorite TV shows of all-time as well as what they’re currently watching.

39:00: The goal in San Antonio is always to win a title. Does this team have what it takes to win a championship, and what does the squad have to do in order to accomplish that feat?

[Seventyniner]

From now on I will be calling Mills “Fifty”.

Fitty Mills imo

[Truth4sale$]

if we are going to compare Paul with Simmons, lets look at his ability to attack the basket. He has not shown that ability or aggression yet in comparison to Simmons. Spurs have a lot of shooters, but more "attack the basket" mentality. Simmons provided that element.

[look_at_g_shred]

if we are going to compare Paul with Simmons, lets look at his ability to attack the basket. He has not shown that ability or aggression yet in comparison to Simmons. Spurs have a lot of shooters, but more "attack the basket" mentality. Simmons provided that element.
..and would fumble the ball 80% of the time too

[SAGirl]

if we are going to compare Paul with Simmons, lets look at his ability to attack the basket. He has not shown that ability or aggression yet in comparison to Simmons. Spurs have a lot of shooters, but more "attack the basket" mentality. Simmons provided that element.
It's pointless to argue about JSimms at this point. One has to be happy for him bc he's happy with his choice. It was his choice to go to Orlando. He wanted more freedom to play, more minutes, more shots, and the ability to decide for himself how to be aggressive, etc. He felt restricted in the Spurs offense and was fearful of getting the bench for a mistake. He said he couldn't play freely like that.
Spurs were only going to retain him if they gave him what he wanted in minutes and role. That was never going to happen in SA after Manu decided to come back and Spurs signed Rudy Gay.

[tonight...you]

It's pointless to argue about JSimms at this point. One has to be happy for him bc he's happy with his choice. It was his choice to go to Orlando. He wanted more freedom to play, more minutes, more shots, and the ability to decide for himself how to be aggressive, etc. He felt restricted in the Spurs offense and was fearful of getting the bench for a mistake. He said he couldn't play freely like that.
Spurs were only going to retain him if they gave him what he wanted in minutes and role. That was never going to happen in SA after Manu decided to come back and Spurs signed Rudy Gay.
And both teams are most likely better for it all. Pretty nice...

[bklynspursfan]

It's pointless to argue about JSimms at this point. One has to be happy for him bc he's happy with his choice. It was his choice to go to Orlando. He wanted more freedom to play, more minutes, more shots, and the ability to decide for himself how to be aggressive, etc. He felt restricted in the Spurs offense and was fearful of getting the bench for a mistake. He said he couldn't play freely like that.
Spurs were only going to retain him if they gave him what he wanted in minutes and role. That was never going to happen in SA after Manu decided to come back and Spurs signed Rudy Gay.

Did he really mention fearing being benched for mistakes? The Big 3 throughout the years had that happen many times to them

[SAGirl]

Did he really mention fearing being benched for mistakes? The Big 3 throughout the years had that happen many times to them
yes. he did. there is a link about it in another recent thread read the interview.

[bklynspursfan]

yes. he did. there is a link about it in another recent thread read the interview.

Ha, thanks. I'll have to check it out. As a player I guess you have to be mentally strong enough to handle that sort of coaching style. It ain't for everyone. That's what made our big 3 , mainly TD so special. Set the bar