jefferson and horry discusses the spurs system

[horsielove]

https://streamable.com/ptpqd

this bitter old ass just wont stop :lol

[RD2191]

Spurs system is a myth.

[Leetonidas]

Horry comes off as such a faggot. Lol at :cry they aint gon yell at me like that :cry

[8FOR!3]

Thats funny so what's their excuse for guys like Patty and Belinelli and Diaw

[SuperCam]

true that PATFO always run spurs like a plantation. why they can't get star FAs and ones who do come like LMA regret joining. Also why 2018 will be a bust in signing marquee max players which a bunch of spurfan for some reason think is going to happen :lol

[spurs10]

Seems strange that Horry would seemingly do anything to disparage his own reputation among many people who once thought highly of him.

[Atl Spur]

true that PATFO always run spurs like a plantation. why they can't get star FAs and ones who do come like LMA regret joining. Also why 2018 will be a bust in signing marquee max players which a bunch of spurfan for some reason think is going to happen :lol

Plantation?? Really dude?

[kaji157]

This is clearly not entirely true. Manu did know other coaches and had different role before joining San Antonio, and he succeeded.
Finley got a championship, Oberto exceeded expectations and so did Diaw, Mills and Splitter until he broke down.
It's clear that players that don't embrace an on court plan struggle here, but that doesn't mean the plan is less valid as it produced many wins.

[tholdren]

true that PATFO always run spurs like a plantation. why they can't get star FAs and ones who do come like LMA regret joining. Also why 2018 will be a bust in signing marquee max players which a bunch of spurfan for some reason think is going to happen :lol

Cam played awful last year. One hit wonder. Go post elsewhere

[rastaspur]

Horry is a salty bastard. And rj is a homo. End of discussion.

[DAF86]

The Spurs system always limited the stats of individual players. It's only normal that star players see their stats decrease when they get here.

Folks like Duncan, Manu, Tony and even Kawhi would average much more eye popping numbers if they had landed in other teams.

[tholdren]

Horry is a salty bastard. And rj is a homo. End of discussion.

Horry is just competitive, no harm. I concur with the latter.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Whorey is a douche. Wish he just missed game 5 and Duncan turned around and won 6 and 7

[GSH]

Plantation?? Really dude?


There's a half dozen or so fucktards here who talk that plantation shit non-stop. If it's true, then Horry and RJ were two of the best paid slaves in history. Every one of the ones who talk like that would dance like Mister Bojangles for a shot at that kind of money.

Imagine the nerve of an employer saying, "If we're going to pay you millions of dollars, we expect you to do things a certain way." It's inhumane. Call the UN, we've got a plantation going here. :lol

[dabom]

Sounds like robh was a sensitive pussy. :lol

[coachmac87]

true that PATFO always run spurs like a plantation. why they can't get star FAs and ones who do come like LMA regret joining. Also why 2018 will be a bust in signing marquee max players which a bunch of spurfan for some reason think is going to happen :lol


You're a fucking Cam Newton Stan tbh...

[tholdren]

Whorey is a douche. Wish he just missed game 5 and Duncan turned around and won 6 and 7

Quote of the listen, "i had to dumb my game down..." really, you had to dumb it down from what watching kobe? Dude was marginally better than samaki walker his last year with la.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Quote of the listen, "i had to dumb my game down..." really, you had to dumb it down from what watching kobe? Dude was marginally better than samaki walker his last year with la.
Outplayed by Stanislav Medvedenko that series. Horry was what... 4-22 or some shit?

[rastaspur]

There's a half dozen or so fucktards here who talk that plantation shit non-stop. If it's true, then Horry and RJ were two of the best paid slaves in history. Every one of the ones who talk like that would dance like Mister Bojangles for a shot at that kind of money.

Imagine the nerve of an employer saying, "If we're going to pay you millions of dollars, we expect you to do things a certain way." It's inhumane. Call the UN, we've got a plantation going here. :lol

It's retarded.

By that logic, anyone who isn't self employed would fit this plantation theory. I'm self employed and I still have to answer to someone, judges.

If a judge yells at me and tells me what to do I'm not going to get all butthurt and compare my situation to that of slaves.

With the exception of a few people in this world, everyone has to answer to or be subservient to some other person or entity.

I'm pretty sure slaves didn't get paid 10 mil plus a year to pick cotton and shuck corn.

[GSH]

Sounds like robh was a sensitive pussy. :lol


Horry's last season with the Spurs, he got paid exactly $200,000 for every 3-pointer he made. The amazing shooting specialist shot .319 overall, and .643 from the damn FT line.

The problem wuz that Massa Pop done talk to him mean an' all like that. He wuz so beat down from livin' on the plantation, he could'n hit no 3-balls. Or free throws.

He's a butt-hurt bitch who got mad because the Spurs wouldn't bring him back and pay him more millions to not do shit.

[DAF86]

Where can I find the continuation of that podcast?

[dabom]

Horry's last season with the Spurs, he got paid exactly $200,000 for every 3-pointer he made. The amazing shooting specialist shot .319 overall, and .643 from the damn FT line.

The problem wuz that Massa Pop done talk to him mean an' all like that. He wuz so beat down from livin' on the plantation, he could'n hit no 3-balls. Or free throws.

He's a butt-hurt bitch who got mad because the Spurs wouldn't bring him back and pay him more millions to not do shit.
:lol

[SuperCam]

There's a half dozen or so fucktards here who talk that plantation shit non-stop. If it's true, then Horry and RJ were two of the best paid slaves in history. Every one of the ones who talk like that would dance like Mister Bojangles for a shot at that kind of money.

Imagine the nerve of an employer saying, "If we're going to pay you millions of dollars, we expect you to do things a certain way." It's inhumane. Call the UN, we've got a plantation going here. :lol

era of old rich whites running the league like auerbach riley jackson and Poop are coming to an end tbh. Players with branding and entrepreneurial aspirations are running things now. LeKing empowered the players and showed them just how much leverage they have to shape the league as they see fit. Players want and will play with their friends and olympic teammates and recruit them to form superteams. the backlash from white run media means nothing anymore. and they sure as shit aint going to play for no overseer telling them to get over themselves :lol

management can either hope to draft multiple HOF players with picks in the mid to lower first round which is what PATFO has been riding for twenty years or they have to adapt to the way things are run now.

spurfan keeps telling me about keeping cap open for 2018, but not who spurs will convince to come here, or how. is super introvert kiwi gonna be in their ear? lma, who wants out? cause PATFO walking in some hotel conference room to talk about how good they could look alongside patty bertans and murray if they give in to a system isn't gonna sell shit.

[Joseph Kony]

for someone who mailed it in 75% of the year this douche sure does think highly of himself as a "smart player." fuck that. dude was diaw before diaw. He didnt do jack shit in the RS and only showed up for a handful of games a year. forever thankful for Game 5 and hipchecking Nash but otherwise horry can suck a fat one

[GSH]

era of old rich whites running the league like auerbach.

I didn't even bother reading your line of bullshit. Any bitch who wants an excuse can find one, and from the looks of that book report, you have yours all lined up. If you ever manage to breed, you can tell your kids that it's someone else's fault that their dad is a miserable failure. Enjoy - you've earned it.

I never heard anyone else piss on Tim Duncan like Horry has. Nobody. Not even rivals like Shaq. The butt-hurt is strong with Horry. And with you.



but otherwise horry can suck a fat one

Pretty sure that was RJ, but maybe Horry was just on the down low.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

There's a half dozen or so fucktards here who talk that plantation shit non-stop. If it's true, then Horry and RJ were two of the best paid slaves in history. Every one of the ones who talk like that would dance like Mister Bojangles for a shot at that kind of money.

Imagine the nerve of an employer saying, "If we're going to pay you millions of dollars, we expect you to do things a certain way." It's inhumane. Call the UN, we've got a plantation going here. :lol

About 90% of Spurs fans don't understand basketball or have any clue about what they are talking about. It's just a ball going into a basket, name calling, and coaching from a distance. Nothing should surprise anyone. The lack of common sense is astonishing and just to take a picture you can read the majority of posts in this website.

Most of the Spurs fans don't understand how difficult it is to ring at this level or what it takes to get it done. I don't claim I understand everything that goes in there either but I have enough common sense to figure out it takes a lot and the FO probably knows what they are doing to win for so long.

[GSH]

I don't claim I understand everything that goes in there either but I have enough common sense to figure out it takes a lot and the FO probably knows what they are doing to win for so long.


Of COURSE they know what they're doing. The best winning percentage of any team in a major sport for almost two decades? Yeah that's an accident.

All those super-star players who supposedly don't want to come here? They're playing for other teams, and almost all of those teams are chronic losers. None of them are as consistently good as the Spurs have been.

Let's say SuperCam is right, and SA is a plantation. What that means is that the slaves that play here actually benefit from the plantation system, because it makes them into winners. I think he better come up with another line of bullshit, because that one doesn't sound too good, when you think it all the way through. :lol

[spurraider21]

:lol RJ just trying to scapegoat his shitty performance

[tholdren]

era of old rich whites running the league like auerbach riley jackson and Poop are coming to an end tbh. Players with branding and entrepreneurial aspirations are running things now. LeKing empowered the players and showed them just how much leverage they have to shape the league as they see fit. Players want and will play with their friends and olympic teammates and recruit them to form superteams. the backlash from white run media means nothing anymore. and they sure as shit aint going to play for no overseer telling them to get over themselves :lol

management can either hope to draft multiple HOF players with picks in the mid to lower first round which is what PATFO has been riding for twenty years or they have to adapt to the way things are run now.

spurfan keeps telling me about keeping cap open for 2018, but not who spurs will convince to come here, or how. is super introvert kiwi gonna be in their ear? lma, who wants out? cause PATFO walking in some hotel conference room to talk about how good they could look alongside patty bertans and murray if they give in to a system isn't gonna sell shit.

Please ban this poster

[Pavlov]

era of old rich whites running the league like auerbach riley jackson and Poop are coming to an end tbh.:lol Shit post guy think coach run NBA.

[siraulo23]

I have no problems with whatever Horry's been saying or what he said here tbh. Just the shit he said about Hakeem being 20x better than Duncan is retarded

[daledondale]

Horry is a salty bastard. And rj is a homo. End of discussion.
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[therealtruth]

Pop's called it a dictatorship himself. So that agrees with what RJ/Horry are saying.

[MaNu4Tres]

Manu, Tim and Tony all have 2 more titles if Horry doesn't shit the bed in 04' and 06'.

Also, Tim was dealing with plantar fasciitis & ankle problems a good portion of the time when Horry was here. That probably factored into TD resting or " not working as hard".

[Hoops Czar]

Manu, Tim and Tony all have 2 more titles if Horry doesn't shit the bed in 04' and 06'.

Also, Tim was dealing with plantar fasciitis & ankle problems a good portion of the time when Horry was here. That probably factored into TD resting or " not working as hard".

Was Horry guarding Derek Fisher In 2004? Was Horry guarding Dirk in 2006?

[MaNu4Tres]

Was Horry guarding Derek Fisher In 2004? Was Horry guarding Dirk in 2006?

Horry wasn't doing anything. If he showed up it would have given the Spurs the bump they needed.. like in 05'.

[Spurtacular]

Horry has the most undeserved ego in NBA history. Seven rings will do that to a lot of people though.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao Robert Horry talking about having to turn his game down to be in the system. His stats sucked; the Spurs system added three to four years to his career. That's why nobody signed him after the Spurs dumped him. And he still could've played well enough in the Spurs system for a year or two or more longer. Dude just has no perspective, or he's going street and talking big.

[therealtruth]

Horry wasn't doing anything. If he showed up it would have given the Spurs the bump they needed.. like in 05'.

Horry was pretty bad in '04 but in '06 you have to blame Pop's decision to go small against the Mavs.

[daslicer]

I did laugh when Horry said Spur fans in '04 were calling him a spy for the lakers due to him sucking. I remember in '04 on spurs report and Spurstalk people were calling Horry a spy. It's evident Horry must have read both spurs message boards at the time.

[SnakeBoy]

Was Horry guarding Derek Fisher In 2004? Was Horry guarding Dirk in 2006?

Why does that matter? In '04 Horry shot 23% that series (16% from 3). In '06 he shot 25% (14% from 3).

Not exactly the kind of stats that give him a reason to blame anyone else for not winning.

[tmtcsc]

Lol@Robert Horry...bitching about Pop and F.O. even though he wanted to play for them additional years. They told his lazy, out of shape ass to fuck off when his contract was up (as did every other team in the NBA) and yet THE SPURS are the ones who have a problem.

Yes Robert, to play for one of the most successful franchises in professional sports, you have to come to work everyday, respect the game, display good sportsmanship and put winning above all else.

[jimbo]

Thats funny so what's their excuse for guys like Patty and Belinelli and Diaw

They're all betas tbh

[JohnnyMax]

Where can I find the continuation of that podcast?


https://overcast.fm/+IjrVyqYGE/1:09

[DAF86]

Thanks

[SAGirl]

He does talk about Pop's micromanaging and how if a guy got out from the scripted play Pop would lose it. I suppose only Manu can get out of a script...

OTOH I understand the discipline required. Maybe being that strict is what allows someone from the end of the bench to be plugged in and win a regular season game..

[Atl Spur]

:lol RJ just trying to scapegoat his shitty performance

THIS

[Atl Spur]

Pop's called it a dictatorship himself. So that agrees with what RJ/Horry are saying.


So you took that literal? Wise up please.....every coach worth his salt will impose his ideology. Good thing for us we might just have the best of all time in evaluating and handling talent/egos! Be grateful......

[Phenomanul]

Of COURSE they know what they're doing. The best winning percentage of any team in a major sport for almost two decades? Yeah that's an accident.

All those super-star players who supposedly don't want to come here? They're playing for other teams, and almost all of those teams are chronic losers. None of them are as consistently good as the Spurs have been.

Let's say SuperCam is right, and SA is a plantation. What that means is that the slaves that play here actually benefit from the plantation system, because it makes them into winners. I think he better come up with another line of bullshit, because that one doesn't sound too good, when you think it all the way through. :lol

Funny how he says "this [euphemistic slave] era" is coming to an end... and he doesn't bother to mention that the current NBA Champions are coached by Kerr - another, "do it my way" type of guy...

It's like "no duh Sherlock" teams need strong leadership from the bench. But he equates that to being a plantation-style system... It's his prerogative to believe what he wants to but geeeesh, ignorance in our society is getting out of hand.

[therealtruth]

Funny how he says "this [euphemistic slave] era" is coming to an end... and he doesn't bother to mention that the current NBA Champions are coached by Kerr - another, "do it my way" type of guy...

It's like "no duh Sherlock" teams need strong leadership from the bench. But he equates that to being a plantation-style system... It's his prerogative to believe what he wants to but geeeesh, ignorance in our society is getting out of hand.

Strong leadership doesn't mean micromanaging players which is what Horry is accusing Pop of. I don't think the same applies to Kerr. His players mention all the time the freedom he gives them.

[tholdren]

Strong leadership doesn't mean micromanaging players which is what Horry is accusing Pop of. I don't think the same applies to Kerr. His players mention all the time the freedom he gives them.

Strong leadership also isnt about throwing others under the bus, especially when personal stats were rather crappy. In the end, the hip check will be what horry amounted to with the spurs. Thanks for the service, but you were 5th 6th fiddle im almost every spot he worked.

[SnakeBoy]

https://overcast.fm/+IjrVyqYGE/1:09

Thanks. Glad to here Horry clarify he was talking about in the post with the 20 times better comment.

[PublicOption]

Guys IGNORE Horry....he just wants a job.

[unleashbaynes]

A man who made millions playing in the NBA comparing it to slavery.....

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[spurs10]

In 04 people were actually thinking Horry was a plant because he shot so poorly. Pop, Tim, and Manu's fault!

[Chinook]

Comparing themselves to slaves is stupid. What they really mean is they consider themselves the proletariat to the owners' bourgeoisie. It's a Marxist argument, which Kayne West actually explained pretty well in one of his radio rants like a decade ago. Essentially, so long as the owners control the means of production (the contracts with the network companies), players don't really get to control their own labor and are thus restricted. No matter how hard Lebron works to make money, he's always going to be someone else even more money, of which he'll only get a cut.

"Shaq is rich. The white man who signs his checks is wealthy." -- Chris Rock

Just like the free agency fights of three-decades ago, the push toward athlete self-awareness and activism is fascinating. I don't think it makes sense for us as fans to sympathize with millionaires using inappropriate analogies, but I also don't think we should dismiss the debate that's going on right now.

[jimbo]

So you took that literal? Wise up please.....every coach worth his salt will impose his ideology. Good thing for us we might just have the best of all time in evaluating and handling talent/egos! Be grateful......

:lol Pop's take on ego management is "if they disagree with me, ship em out"