Shams: Jonathon Simmons Agrees to 3-yr Deal w/Orlando Magic

[BatManu20]

Welp. Get your money Juice.

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[LkrFan]

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I guess Leonard will guard them Dub shooters all by himself? Spurs have no other athletes to throw at them. That's a shame. :(

[Ocotillo]

and the meltdown begins....... Begins, who am I kidding, it's been going on since the playoff elimination.

[DAF86]

I wonder how much he's going to make.

[LakerHater]

Chad Forcier doin work!

[SpurOutofTownFan]

in before outrage by stupid fans

[Chinook]

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I guess Leonard will guard them Dub shooters all by himself? Spurs have no other athletes to throw at them. That's a shame. :(

They just got BP3, otherwise known as "The Good Paul". They'll be fine.

[SpurPadre]

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[Robz4000]

Later JSimms, thanks for bringing the juice. Get paid my dude.

[BatManu20]

We'll always have the memories :cry


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[SuperCam]

:cry didn't want him anyway :cry

:cry patty ride or die :cry

:cry bring manu back and viva los spurs :cry:

[Mr. Body]

Making his bank. I don't see him as doing that well, but in a team with no expectations...

[Ron Swanson]

Later JSimms, thanks for bringing the juice. Get paid my dude.

[Atl Spur]

Congrats Mr. Simmons! You earned your payday!! Why would anyone get mad at this cat for doing what's good for him and his family? He gets to move to a different place and experience different cultures. I am happy for him and his......... Spurs will be ok either way!!

[GSH]

I guess Leonard will guard them Dub shooters all by himself? Spurs have no other athletes to throw at them. That's a shame. :(


OMG, you're such a fucking Laker troll. I hate it when you're right. :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

it should be a surprise to nobody that they couldn't afford him. Go get that money JSimms.

[BatManu20]

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[Darius Bieber]

Rudy Gay being the marquee Spurs signing this off season. :lol

[NASpurs]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.

[BatManu20]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.

If that's true, Pop needs to get over that bullshit real quick. This is the NBA.. These are pro athletes who are naturally going to be a little cocky. There is going to be some showboating. Simmons never did anything over the top, and anything he did pales in comparison to what guys like Steph Curry, Lebron, Harden, etc do after half their buckets (granted they're stars, but still). Let these guys have some fun man.

But I still think it was just a simple case of him wanting more dough than we were willing to dish out.

[SpurPadre]

I wonder if he'll start talking shit about us on twitter like used to...

[Big Empty]

Ole ole ole ole ole, ole Manuuu! Our cap next summer will be extremely handsome!

[LakerHater]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.

FUCK!
had enuff of Pop's bullshit!

[SuperCam]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.

and PATFO suckers think spurs will land max contract free agents next summer with this Poop overseer schtick getting worse every year :lmao

[Ice009]

I mean, if that is what Pop is like, I don't understand him. Does he realize people are human and not robots? What's the point of being alive if you can't show any emotion.

Pop needs to fucking quit with that shit and not handcuff/restrain people from showing some emotion. Some people can act like robots, but we can't all be like robots. That's fucking ridiculous.

[SpurPadre]

Rudy Gay better think twice about dunking, tbh.

[Russ]

Warrior Kryptonite has left the building. :depressed

Good luck, Jonathon, you'll always be a Spur.

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[Robz4000]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.

If that's true its seriously time for Pop to get the fuck out.

[duncan2150]

All people making a statement about POP on a rumour....

[SpurPadre]

I don't like showboating either but Simmons' version of it is very harmless not disrespectful, especially compared to the Warriors who's who of showboaters.

[ducks]

if he got over 9 million a year I have no problem him leaving

[bklynspursfan]

If that's true, Pop needs to get over that bullshit real quick. This is the NBA.. These are pro athletes who are naturally going to be a little cocky. There is going to be some showboating. Simmons never did anything over the top, and anything he did pales in comparison to what guys like Steph Curry, Lebron, Harden, etc do after half their buckets (granted they're stars, but still). Let these guys have some fun man.

But I still think it was just a simple case of him wanting more dough than we were willing to dish out.

Yea, i don't buy that Pop stuff. He doesn't like the dancing and what not that the Curry's and Hardens of the league do, but Simmons never did any of that.

But guys who yell or show emotion after a shot, he's never had an issue with that. Mills does it, Pau, Manu did it, Capt Jack of course, etc...

I think it's more of Simmons wanting more $$.

[bklynspursfan]

I don't like showboating either but Simmons' version of it is very harmless not disrespectful, especially compared to the Warriors who's who of showboaters.

Exactly, which is why I think that report is BS.

[Russ]

So, let's see, Kawhi's best friends on the team are/were Simmons, Dejounte and Dedmon . . .

[Clipper Nation]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.
Poop couldn't get along with an outspoken African-American player? Shocker!

[coachmac87]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.


More like blowing assignments on both ends of the court...

Showboating is the most selfish thing to do in sports..

[GSH]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.

Poop couldn't get along with an outspoken African-American player? Shocker!

Of course, Pop also benched Snow White Bertans, for having his teammate's back in a scuffle. But that doesn't fit with the racist narrative, so we'll just throw it out.

Pop has his own way that he wants things done. I don't always agree with it (like in the cases of Simmons and Bertans, for instance). But making it about racial expression, or whatever the fuck? Ummm... no.

[RD2191]

Poop couldn't get along with an outspoken African-American player? Shocker!

:lol

[Ice009]

So, let's see, Kawhi's best friends on the team are/were Simmons, Dejounte and Dedmon . . .

Where did you get that from?

[ducks]

Poop couldn't get along with an outspoken African-American player? Shocker!

he sure kissed the former African -amercian president dick though

[Dex]

Warrior Kryptonite has left the building. :depressed

Good luck, Jonathon, you'll always be a Spur.

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Um...pretty sure we still have Kawhi.

Simmons played well when there was no one better to take his place, but let's be real...the Spurs started losing against the Warriors literally the second that Simmons took over in place of Kawhi. He didn't move the needle that much.

[ducks]

if he signed for less then 15 -20 total I will have a problem with him going to magic
interesting to note all guaranteed I think he took less for the guaranteed part

[GSH]

he sure kissed the former African -amercian president dick though


House - not field. Big difference. :lol

They can explain away anything.

[NASpurs]

Of course, Pop also benched Snow White Bertans, for having his teammate's back in a scuffle. But that doesn't fit with the racist narrative, so we'll just throw it out.

Pop has his own way that he wants things done. I don't always agree with it (like in the cases of Simmons and Bertans, for instance). But making it about racial expression, or whatever the fuck? Ummm... no.

Racism shit aside, I had forgotten about the Bertans benching. That was such bullshit.

[Dverde]

My guess is 3 years 25 million. Good luck Simms city!

[Chris]

:pop:: "He just doesn't get it."

[BatManu20]

Good luck, Jonathon, you'll always be a Spur.

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[GSH]

Racism shit aside, I had forgotten about the Bertans benching. That was such bullshit.


Yeah, Pop calling his team "soft", and then benching the guys who aren't. Bullshit.

[Russ]

Um...pretty sure we still have Kawhi.

Simmons played well when there was no one better to take his place, but let's be real...the Spurs started losing against the Warriors literally the second that Simmons took over in place of Kawhi. He didn't move the needle that much.

Yes, but remember opening day as well.

[spurs1990]

Two tears.

All in for 2018-2019.

[sasaint]

I don't like showboating either but Simmons' version of it is very harmless not disrespectful, especially compared to the Warriors who's who of showboaters.

:tu

[GSH]

if he got over 9 million a year I have no problem him leaving

I hadn't seen the number yet. If he got that much, and three years guaranteed? He had to take it. At his age, that's life-changing money. The guys who get paid coming off their freshman years in college can afford to think differently. Simmons had a shot to get paid, and he did what he was supposed to do. The Spurs' salary cap problems are their own making, not his.

[Pavlov]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.Link?

Would like to read of glorious destruction of once mighty team.

[SpurPadre]

Exactly, which is why I think that report is BS.

Yeah...but even though it isn't a huge loss, we could still use another athlete.

[Ice009]

So, since he wasn't restricted anymore, could he sign for more than 9 million in the first couple years of the contract?

[NASpurs]

Link?

Would like to read of glorious destruction of once mighty team.

http://www.espn.com/espnradio/play?id=20002976

[GSH]

Link?

Would like to read of glorious destruction of once mighty team.


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[r0drig0lac]

good for him

[coachmac87]

Exactly, which is why I think that report is BS.

100% BS

Pop and Simms maybe had their differences but he didn't leave because he couldn't showboat after a dunk :lol

[ducks]

does magic have anything that spurs could use for maybe a sign and trade?

[BatManu20]

He'll be missed.


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[baseline bum]

There was no reason to keep him when they're blowing up the team next summer. Of course you could have said the same for Mills. I wanted Simmons back if they could have landed someone like Paul or Hayward and gotten something decent for Softridge to give them a fighting chance at a title, but no reason to have him taking up 2018 capspace when the Spurs signed nobody of any value and are stuck with a pissed off Aldridge who is going to be even lazier next year.

[SAGirl]

Good luck Juice. You will be missed.
I am glad you got your payday.
I hope in time Kyle gets his too.
The two of you in tandem brought a lot of fun since way back in the day in the dleague.
I have been critical of you at times, but never hated you.
I appreciated what you brought. You and Kyle were homies, thick as thieves and balling every summer to get better.
Kyle remains in the team to suffer Pop's doghouse whenever (hopefully he plays well enough to get out of it, but one never knows with Pop's as he's whimsical with his experiments, but you already know that).
Spread your wings. I am sure the Magic will play you a lot.
I hope you do well. You will be reunited with Chad Forcier. Orlando needs any help they can get. Go make some noise in the Eastern Conference.
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[Pavlov]

https://www.facebook.com/Kobe/this not Marc Spears

[Spurs9]

He gone

[Vic Petro]

Spurfan: Don't compromise 2018 cap space!
Also Spurfan: Why didn't we sign anyone good?!?!

[baseline bum]

does magic have anything that spurs could use for maybe a sign and trade?

Magic has AIDS. Do you want them?

[$pursDynasty]

I know that crap is a lot of rumor and conjecture but there does seem to be a fair bit of evidence pointing to the fact that the rumors about Pop and the get over yourself, don't show emotion stuff is true which is scary because players like TD and Kiwi aren't that common in today's NBA and if players get the feeling they can't express themselves here then we will get next to no grade A free agents. I am thinking about that list of the top 15 players in the league right now and trying to think of any that fit what Pop is supposedly looking for attitude on the court wise and I can't think of one besides the one he already has.:bang:depressed

[BatManu20]

Magic has AIDS. Do you want them?


:lol

[coachmac87]

Magic has AIDS. Do you want them?

:lmao

[superbigtime]

Gonna miss the highlights. Not critical to Spurs success though.

[SpurPadre]

Magic has AIDS. Do you want them?

But Magic's "AIDS" are healthier than most people's non-AIDS, tbh.

[duncan2k5]

So... We resign Patty who always disappears in the playoffs, and has horrendous defense, but let Simmy walk and he is one of the few athletes we have on a team they desperately needs perimeter defense and slashing to compete with the warriors? Brilliant!

[Atl Spur]

Magic has AIDS. Do you want them?


Is that really funny?? Wow....... message board or not. That's some clown shit....... Karma

[raybies]

3years 20 mill all guaranteed according to Jabari Young

[raybies]

Wtf we couldn't afford that?

[TheGreatYacht]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.
Retards on here thinking we'll go after Cousins with that useless 2018 cap :lmao

[KDKSpurs24]

Wtf we couldn't afford that?
That means he just wanted out then.

[raybies]

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[Chinook]

He would have been worth that contract, but not necessarily to SA given their roster and projection.

[raybies]

Naw, PATFO probably low balled him

[ducks]

Wtf we couldn't afford that?

rumor we offered 9 million a year
not sure if 3 years were guaranteed though

[Chinook]

Naw, PATFO probably low balled him

Not necessarily. They may have given him a bigger APY but less guaranteed. And I think by the end, he really wanted to leave SA. I guess the years with the Spurs didn't scrub away his lack of respect for the franchise.

[SuperCam]

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:wow

PATFO getting ethered by yet another front office this offseason :lmao


Don't tell me there's nothing to these massa Poop rumors when JSimm is bolting for less than half the $$$ that Fatty got paid. '

spur homers thinking two free agent max players are coming to play for this schtick next year :lol

[coachmac87]

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Kyle Anderson will never see that kind of money

[ducks]

cost him 6 million or more because he bet against himself in year
he wanted it guaranteed

[raybies]

Well Pau and Manu should be getting on board now with all the extra cash... hopefully 1 year deals

[TheGreatYacht]

Maxed out Peter Holt's credit card on Patty Mills and booze. Kill yourself Drunkford

[Chinook]

Kyle Anderson will never see that kind of money

It depends on how the off-season looks next year, but I would not be surprised to see Anderson make more than that. Spurs fans hate him a lot more than the average person does.

[ducks]

Maxed out Peter Holt's credit card on Patty Mills and booze. Kill yourself Drunkford

grow up
if it was not for holt spurs would not be in sa

[r0drig0lac]

So... We resign Patty who always disappears in the playoffs, and has horrendous defense, but let Simmy walk and he is one of the few athletes we have on a team they desperately needs perimeter defense and slashing to compete with the warriors? Brilliant!

PATFO http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/lobt2.gif

[itzsoweezee]

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Wow. Popovich outsmarting himself, again? I'm sure the Popologists will claim this Paul guy is going to be amazing, even though rookie never make much of an impact on popovich's system.

[ducks]

and the meltdown starts now

[coachmac87]

It depends on how the off-season looks next year, but I would not be surprised to see Anderson make more than that. Spurs fans hate him a lot more than the average person does.

I was kidding..just had to take part in the "player fan" debate lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Not necessarily. They may have given him a bigger APY but less guaranteed. And I think by the end, he really wanted to leave SA. I guess the years with the Spurs didn't scrub away his lack of respect for the franchise.
Still making shit up about this dude lmfao. Spurs lowballed him, quit the bullshit, he no longer outshines your boy Danny you can relax :lol

[ducks]

Still making shit up about this dude lmfao. Spurs lowballed him, quit the bullshit, he no longer outshines your boy Danny you can relax :lol

only the suns might have offered more then the spurs if the spurs did in fact offer 9 million a year

and the suns were willing to pay more to get rid of chandler deal in the process

[coachmac87]

Wow. Popovich outsmarting himself, again? I'm sure the Popologists will claim this Paul guy is going to be amazing, even though rookie never make much of an impact on popovich's system.

You mean just like Simmons?

[TheGreatYacht]

It depends on how the off-season looks next year, but I would not be surprised to see Anderson make more than that. Spurs fans hate him a lot more than the average person does.
Fathead will not make anywhere close to that.

[Chinook]

Still making shit up about this dude lmfao. Spurs lowballed him, quit the bullshit, he no longer outshines your boy Danny you can relax :lol

The only thing we've heard is that the Spurs offered $9 Million a year. I don't think that's true, because he was worth half that. But it's not likely that anybody who dives on a $20M/3 deal can be low-balled.

[Ice009]

wow. I am stumped if that is all he's getting. I think I would have been OK gambling with him at that price. I didn't want to overpay., but at roughly half the price and 1 year less than Mills, I would have seriously considered paying that.

[Chinook]

Fathead will not make anywhere close to that.

I don't think people understand how little Simmons got.

[ducks]

chandler might have made lma happy but lma and chandler might have caused issue since chandler and lma were buds

[Chinook]

wow. I am stumped if that is all he's getting. I think I would have been OK gambling with him at that price. I didn't want to overpay., but at roughly half the price and 1 year less than Mills, I would have seriously considered paying that.

You're assuming that he was inclined to come back to SA for that money. The reason why his agent asked him to be released is so SA couldn't match that deal.

[ducks]

wow. I am stumped if that is all he's getting. I think I would have been OK gambling with him at that price. I didn't want to overpay., but at roughly half the price and 1 year less than Mills, I would have seriously considered paying that.

deal seems ok I would like to know if it has a player option in after year 2 if he blows up and is better

[TheGreatYacht]

Wow. Popovich outsmarting himself, again? I'm sure the Popologists will claim this Paul guy is going to be amazing, even though rookie never make much of an impact on popovich's system.
:lol holy crap, 100% spot-on.

There's a poster here that claims Paul is better on both ends. Who would've known we had posters watching random summer league games.

[raybies]

Really sux though. He was a two way player, even if not established yet. You couldn't hide a bad defender on him. Spurs could of made the deal and let him go for peanuts, relatively speaking. Gonna wait to see how Paul does and if we can anyone of note next year...

[itzsoweezee]

You mean just like Simmons?

You obviously follow an unusual definition for the word impact.

[Atl Spur]

Spurs did him a solid most other clubs wouldn't.........they allowed him the ability to go when & where he wanted to go. Usually plantation mentality people/orgs don't allow the commodity to make the final decision! Everything isn't for every one......... To many variables to consider.

[BatManu20]

Only $20M? Damn.

[GSH]

I don't think people understand how little Simmons got.


For him, it was a shitload of money. But the fact that he won't be a Spur for $6.6M per year? That says that he either over-played his hand with the Spurs, or he didn't want to be here. I really think that after the playoffs, they would have matched 3/20 and called it a day.



You're assuming that he was inclined to come back to SA for that money. The reason why his agent asked him to be released is so SA couldn't match that deal.

All we have is rumors, but if you believe that it was his idea to have them pull his QO, then that's pretty much the conclusion. He wanted to sign a deal without the Spurs being able to match.

[Keepin' it real]

It will be interesting to see Simmons try to show up Kawhi with either a monster dunk or block.

And whether it's on Kawhi or whoever, to see him gloat/celebrate at Pop after he does it.

[Atl Spur]

Lets be real people.....some of the same cats running their mouths about j simms this j simms that were bad mouthing the spurs signing him initially! Let this kid Paul get in here and see what type of impact he can make; perhaps we can help him make some money be it here or elsewhere.

[SnakeBoy]

What did the Spurs offer him again?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Spurs would have matched that. It seems like he wanted to leave and the Spurs did him a solid by renouncing him.

[SnakeBoy]

It will be interesting to see Simmons try to show up Kawhi with either a monster dunk or block.

And whether it's on Kawhi or whoever, to see him gloat/celebrate at Pop after he does it.

I can totally see that happening. Will likely be at the end of the 4th with his team down 20.

[Chinook]

For him, it was a shitload of money. But the fact that he won't be a Spur for $6.6M per year? That says that he either over-played his hand with the Spurs, or he didn't want to be here. I really think that after the playoffs, they would have matched 3/20 and called it a day.

They probably would have matched that deal. But Simmons didn't want to stay. I am not sure he ever wanted to be in SA. He was likely happy for the check and had friends there and all. But he likely wasn't keen on having to fight for a rotation spot again, and he would have, especially with Gay back.

I just meant that Simmons got a deal for a bottom-half-of-the-roster player. In this market, I think the Spurs would be okay handing that out to an Anderson or Bertans next summer, probably even more, even without them being more than average bench guys.

[Keepin' it real]

I can totally see that happening. Will likely be at the end of the 4th with his team down 20.

:lol

[Robz4000]

Yep, he didn't wanna play for the Spurs anymore. Thanks Poo :tu

[duncan2150]

Imo the Spurs don't want to give him 3 years guaranteed so his agent told them to whithdrawn their offer in order to get a better contract. Maybe the FO work with him on 1+1 in order to have cap space next year....

[SAGirl]

Wtf we couldn't afford that?

Th QO was pulled out bc his agent had made it clear he wanted out. He was going to sign with the highest bidder anywhere but the Spurs. I hardly think that is $ what he wanted. Rumors of 4 year deals, $50 million, then $40 million is what I have seen rumored. The Spurs best offered, per rumors was a moderate 9 mill per year, for 2 years with 1 year that I presume was a team option. He wanted more, tested the market, the market as we have seen wasn't at all what he (or many other agents let's be honest) expected. I think the ship finally really went south and things soured, when his agent was exploring potential sign and trades for Jsimms and after having reached an agreement in the Chandler/Simmons trade, the Spurs backed out at the 11th hour, I assume bc Joff Lauvergne became available all of a sudden at too cheap a deal to pass up on. considering that, Chandler in his contract for 2 seasons didn't make sense for the Spurs... they rejected that deal.. After that Simmons wanted out period.

Then you add in the fact that he maybe didn't have that strong an attachment to Pop and it's understandable.

[coachmac87]

You're assuming that he was inclined to come back to SA for that money. The reason why his agent asked him to be released is so SA couldn't match that deal.

Exactly....

[Chinook]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1_hint=Jonathon+Simmons&player_id1_select=Jonathon+Simmons&y1=2017&player_id1=simmojo02&idx=players&player_id2_hint=Malik+Hairston&player_id2_select=Malik+Hairston&y2=2010&player_id2=hairsma01&idx=players

How ever will the Spurs strike gold a third time?

[SpursforSix]

Simmons probably thinks neither team is competing for a ring next year.
So he could be thinking

$6,000,000 in Florida > $9,000,000 San Antonio

[lilbthebasedgod]

Not a horrible deal but I mean, its not great either. My number was anything over 5.5 M a year would be too much. Anything over 6.5M would be not signable.

[loveforthegame]

Best of luck to him. He wanted out and got his wish.

[NASpurs]

Spurs would have matched that. It seems like he wanted to leave and the Spurs did him a solid by renouncing him.

Seems like it, he wanted to get the fuck out of the organization.

[raybies]

Lets be real people.....some of the same cats running their mouths about j simms this j simms that were bad mouthing the spurs signing him initially! Let this kid Paul get in here and see what type of impact he can make; perhaps we can help him make some money be it here or elsewhere.

Yeah I feels it. Simmons wasn't much of a distributor like Paul. Paul has a good skill set. Can play off ball or on ball unlike Simmons and is a shooter. Paul is pretty athletic too just prefers to pull up rather than get to the rim like Simms. But Paul should be able to space the floor a helluva lot better than Simms who allowed opposing teams to clog the paint and muck it up. Paul's defense is pretty good too just have to see him on someone NBA caliber.

[bigfan]

Adios and don't let the door.....

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Seems like it, he wanted to get the fuck out of the organization.

He'll be buried on that Orlando bench though. Behind Fournier, Ross, Isaac and even Hezonja if he finally pulls his head out of his arse.

[bic50]

:smchode:

[Big Empty]

He should shine in the weak east.

[ducks]

Simmons probably thinks neither team is competing for a ring next year.
So he could be thinking

$6,000,000 in Florida > $9,000,000 San Antonio
guess he wants the nude beaches

[ducks]

Yep, he didn't wanna play for the Spurs anymore. Thanks Poo :tu

sure it was not his turnovers and handles and shooting?

[ducks]

Th QO was pulled out bc his agent had made it clear he wanted out. He was going to sign with the highest bidder anywhere but the Spurs. I hardly think that is $ what he wanted. Rumors of 4 year deals, $50 million, then $40 million is what I have seen rumored. The Spurs best offered, per rumors was a moderate 9 mill per year, for 2 years with 1 year that I presume was a team option. He wanted more, tested the market, the market as we have seen wasn't at all what he (or many other agents let's be honest) expected. I think the ship finally really went south and things soured, when his agent was exploring potential sign and trades for Jsimms and after having reached an agreement in the Chandler/Simmons trade, the Spurs backed out at the 11th hour, I assume bc Joff Lauvergne became available all of a sudden at too cheap a deal to pass up on. considering that, Chandler in his contract for 2 seasons didn't make sense for the Spurs... they rejected that deal.. After that Simmons wanted out period.

Then you add in the fact that he maybe didn't have that strong an attachment to Pop and it's understandable.

good post

[raybies]

Do we have any money left like exceptions? Cause if Manu retires we're gonna have an open roster spot and we really need a 3.. I'm assuming Pau comes back and we indeed go smaller this year

[GSH]

Lets be real people.....some of the same cats running their mouths about j simms this j simms that were bad mouthing the spurs signing him initially! Let this kid Paul get in here and see what type of impact he can make; perhaps we can help him make some money be it here or elsewhere.

Sort of like how some of the people saying that Patty was a steal this year for 4/50 were the same people screaming that he had to be traded NOW, last preseason?



12.5 for patty is looking like a steal


We need to trade Patty right NOW!!! Not because he's horrible or anything but solely for value.

[raybies]

Andersons chances at starting next season looking really good.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Meh. Good luck to him and the mess that is Orlando. Simmons needed 3 point spacing to operate, and Orlando has very little of that. Would've wanted him back but it should be easy to understand the saving route.

[kaji157]

This was a very good deal for the spurs. Not sure what happened.

[bklynspursfan]

Yep, he didn't wanna play for the Spurs anymore. Thanks Poo :tu

What did Pop do exactly?

[TheGreatYacht]

Simmons probably thinks neither team is competing for a ring next year.
So he could be thinking

$6,000,000 in Florida > $9,000,000 San Antonio
God damn it, JSimms. We have millions of walking land whales and a creek. If you squint really, really hard, you're practically on a Florida beach

[BatManu20]

This was a very good deal for the spurs. Not sure what happened.

Yep. He must've wanted out. Oh well.

[BatManu20]

I'll miss the highlights though tbh.


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[Trill Clinton]

Damn I'm going to miss Simmons. The last dawg we had left on the team smh.

[313]

Massa Pop :lol

Thinking LeBron would ever come here and play for such a jackass :lol

He'll probably bench guys for celebrating in the 2020 olympics :lol

carried by Tim, lucked into Kawhi :lol

[spursince#99]

That's crazy. I hate PATFO.

[Robz4000]

What did Pop do exactly?


Massa Pop :lol

Thinking LeBron would ever come here and play for such a jackass :lol

He'll probably bench guys for celebrating in the 2020 olympics :lol

carried by Tim, lucked into Kawhi :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

This is probably the day racist PATFO had it.

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/A4yf2wAtw4xbWIkzg1nCETSqHpw=/400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8318413/leonard2.0.gif

The last guy that could wake up those fat AT&T Center fans. Gone. For 6M

[SpursforSix]

:pop: anyone that wants to "keep it real" can do it somewhere else

[Robz4000]

sure it was not his turnovers and handles and shooting?

If he didn't have those issues he'd of gone for three times what he got. $6.5mil/year for JSimms was more than fine; even $9mil/year in this market was more than reasonable. Maybe BP grows into a better fit but JSimms was definitely a solid rotation player despite his flaws.

[TD 21]

It was obvious Pop and Simmons "didn't get along". Simmons is damn near the antithesis of a prototypical Spur. I remember the media asking him last season, after he had been benched and returned to the rotation, if he learned anything and he responded "nope". He was also dismissive when asked about Pop at All-Star weekend. It was played off as if it were a joke, but you could tell it wasn't.

Dedmon and Simmons (since he clearly never wanted to be a Spur, I'm glad he's gone) obviously weren't determining this team's fate, but the way their situations played out reaffirms this organization's narrow mindedness and is going to continue to make it difficult to appeal to prominent players, most of whom don't fit their culture.



He'll be buried on that Orlando bench though. Behind Fournier, Ross, Isaac and even Hezonja if he finally pulls his head out of his arse.

He's probably got the inside track to being the third wing. Isaac will likely be brought along slowly and is a combo forward, while Hezonja played PF late last season and they're clearly at the point where they're not giving him anything.

[SAGirl]

Kyle Anderson will never see that kind of money


It depends on how the off-season looks next year, but I would not be surprised to see Anderson make more than that. Spurs fans hate him a lot more than the average person does.

He's also a younger guy. He's still getting better and with more opportunities, and work put in, will become more consistent. He stands to make more over his career bc he's younger and has more time to get paid. That also probably makes him less desperate and unlikely to bet against himself and the market. If he's worth a small/moderate contract next season he can afford to take a 1 and 1 of a 2 year deal and at the end of it, STILL be just 25 or 26 and likely entering his prime and who knows how he could look at that point. The hate in coachmac runs strong. For a coach, he ain't that saavy... something others have remarked in this forum too. :lol

[phxspurfan]

Patty who always disappears in the playoffs

Patty's 2014 championship ring says otherwise

[Robz4000]

Patty's 2014 championship ring says otherwise

*Pre-shoulder injury Patty

[Texas_Ranger]

I will miss his 6 pts per game.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the Magic trade him in half a year.

[SAGirl]

I was kidding..just had to take part in the "player fan" debate lol

no you had to take part in the cheap trolling ... don't be shy now.

[apalisoc_9]

It was obvious Pop and Simmons "didn't get along". Simmons is damn near the antithesis of a prototypical Spur. I remember the media asking him last season, after he had been benched and returned to the rotation, if he learned anything and he responded "nope". He was also dismissive when asked about Pop at All-Star weekend. It was played off as if it were a joke, but you could tell it wasn't.

Dedmon and Simmons (since he clearly never wanted to be a Spur, I'm glad he's gone) obviously weren't determining this team's fate, but the way their situations played out reaffirms this organization's narrow mindedness and is only going to make it more difficult to appeal to prominent players, most of whom don't fit their culture.




He's probably got the inside track to being the third wing. Isaac will likely be brought along slowly and is a combo forward, while Hezonja played PF late last season and they're clearly at the point where they're not giving him anything.

PATFO hates players that can potentially take away the attention from the organization. They want the credit all to themselves. Pop and RC loves to get stroked. They're not the innocent angles your average whataburger and American fans think they are.

They're lucky Kawhi and TD allows things like this to happen.

That's why I firmly believe that a player look kawhi's caliber would most likely leave the organization if they continue to dampen his opportunity fpr insividual success with these stupid learning lessons.

Players have egos and care about individual recognition. All players do.

[HarlemHeat37]

Pretty fitting that he was signed by the team that spent a ton on Bismack Biyombo based on a handful of playoff games:lol

Sucks, though, wanted to keep him..

[coachmac87]

no you had to take part in the cheap trolling ... don't be shy now.

No hard feelings :toast

[coachmac87]

PATFO hates players that can potentially take away the attention from the organization. They want the credit all to themselves. Pop and RC loves to get stroked. They're not the innocent angles your average whataburger and American fans think they are.

They're lucky Kawhi and TD allows things like this to happen.

That's why I firmly believe that a player look kawhi's caliber would most likely leave the organization if they continue to dampen his opportunity fpr insividual success with these stupid learning lessons.

Players have egos and care about individual recognition. All players do.


Loved to get stroked huh??? Is that why you create so many crap attention whore threads?

[FkLA]

*Pre-shoulder injury Patty

No sir. He played through the injury during that run. That's why he wore that black sleeve on his shoulder. Had the surgery after he rang like an alpha.

[Hoops Czar]

I will miss his 6 pts per game.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the Magic trade him in half a year.

[gambit1990]

i called that patty would stay and simmons wouldn't months ago.

[spurs10]

I'm thinking he was renounced by PATFO so he could seek a great paying three year deal. Pop changed Simmon's life. Doubt there is animosity there. No one else was giving him a chance.

If Pop hated him so much why let him showcase his talents in the playoffs and offer him a QO?

[ElNono]

Told you a guy with that athleticism was going to get paid in this league... plus even if he loses 80 games, he'll have a better marquee to show himself there, tbh...

The Spurs nickel and diming him though is kinda ridiculous, they could've signed him for that and then trade him mid-season. Dude had a good reputation...

They basically let him walk with nothing to show for it...

[Dverde]

It's all about his four daughters. Lot's of amusement parks. Fiesta Texas sucks.

[FkLA]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.

Nah fuck that. I defended Juice till the end but if he doesn't get along with PopaGOAT and isn't down with the culture than he can fuck off. Pop expecting professionalism from his guys isn't too much to ask, imo. Especially when that's a huge reason the Spurs are the model of conaistency.

[Chinook]

Told you a guy with that athleticism was going to get paid in this league... plus even if he loses 80 games, he'll have a better marquee to show himself there, tbh...

The Spurs nickel and diming him though is kinda ridiculous, they could've signed him for that and then trade him mid-season. Dude had a good reputation...

They basically let him walk with nothing to show for it...

Again, the Spurs didn't have the option of paying Simmons what Orlando gave him, at least there's no reason to expect that to be the case. Simmons would have been fighting for a rotation spot for the Spurs, a team he grew up hating whose coach he reportedly dislikes. He got into what he feels is a better situation. He may well have taken less to get there.

I'm really glad that they didn't sign him in order to trade him. One, he may have fallen out of the rotation again. Two, he would have prevented Pau from getting paid enough to keep his contract to one year. They tried to S&T him but didn't find a deal that made sense to them. They've already gotten a more proven player to take his place. Letting him walk is fine, though I did want him traded in October last year.

[ElNono]

He really didn't get paid that much, tbh:lol

Almost $7m guaranteed per year is not terrible money either for a guy scrapped from the bottom of the trash pile that's signing his first FA contract. He's basically making about 2x what Gary Neal made on his first non-Spurs deal, and I don't thin he had anywhere near the exposure Gary did.

He basically made the league.

[gambit1990]

would MUCH rather have simmons than parker.

[dabom]

No sir. He played through the injury during that run. That's why he wore that black sleeve on his shoulder. Had the surgery after he rang like an alpha.

I don't remember him making excuses too like a certain player we know. :stirpot:

[ElNono]

Again, the Spurs didn't have the option of paying Simmons what Orlando gave him, at least there's no reason to expect that to be the case. Simmons would have been fighting for a rotation spot for the Spurs, a team he grew up hating whose coach he reportedly dislikes. He got into what he feels is a better situation. He may well have taken less to get there.

I'm really glad that they didn't sign him in order to trade him. One, he may have fallen out of the rotation again. Two, he would have prevented Pau from getting paid enough to keep his contract to one year. They tried to S&T him but didn't find a deal that made sense to them. They've already gotten a more proven player to take his place. Letting him walk is fine, though I did want him traded in October last year.

I thought the Spurs could match anything before they decided to make him a UFA?

[tonight...you]

I'm not happy, or sad either way. He doesn't move the needle for the team either way and I don't care how he fares through life, as a person. That's up to him.

This is one big snore-fest.

[tonight...you]

I thought the Spurs could match anything before they decided to make him a UFA?
Dude...

[Chinook]

I thought the Spurs could match anything before they decided to make him a UFA?

Yes, and he got that deal after they made him a UFA. Likely, Orlando didn't want to give him an offer sheet, and he didn't want SA to match even if they did.

[dabom]

Yes, and he got that deal after they made him a UFA. Likely, Orlando didn't want to give him an offer sheet, and he didn't want SA to match even if they did.

But SA initially gave him an offer sheet. They didn't need to. They liked him but not too much. They are a model organization and respected his wishes.

[dabom]

He 100% got paid less to play with orlando. Probably more playing time. He is betting his current contract plus the contract 3 years from now will be bigger than the sa contract plus whatever he would get 3 years from now.

[ElNono]

Dude...

As Harlem said, in this league, 3/$20m is not a 'huge' amount of money. But it's sizeable enough to land a decent trade deal. Who else they have of value for a potential mid-season trade? Patty is not going anywhere until we know more about Parker.

Maybe Danny and his $10m a year...

[mookie2001]

But Nono you're supposed to support DAFs master plan?

[Dex]

People acting like Kevin Durant just walked out or something.

I liked Juice's energy as much as anybody else, but let's be honest...he wasn't THAT good. He had one good game in the regular season (Game 1 vs GSW), a few nice highlight dunks, a couple decent games guarding Harden in the Semis, and a good showing while getting swept against Golden State.

They seem to forget that he was wildly inconsistent with his shooting, playmaking, and dribbling. The reason his series against the Warriors stood out is because it went wildly against what we had come to expect from Simms.

He wasn't happy here and the Spurs weren't willing to overpay and/or give up cap flexibility to gamble him, so I can't really find a reason to get too bent out of shape over it. This is SpursTalk though, so I'm sure there will be plenty of people who have nothing but gripes about it and will put him on a pedestal as the missing piece when the dude couldn't even stay in the rotation over two years.

[Play Boban]

If that's true, Pop needs to get over that bullshit real quick. This is the NBA.. These are pro athletes who are naturally going to be a little cocky. There is going to be some showboating. Simmons never did anything over the top, and anything he did pales in comparison to what guys like Steph Curry, Lebron, Harden, etc do after half their buckets (granted they're stars, but still). Let these guys have some fun man.

But I still think it was just a simple case of him wanting more dough than we were willing to dish out.
Quit telling Pop what to do. He has five rings. You have zero.

[ElNono]

Yes, and he got that deal after they made him a UFA. Likely, Orlando didn't want to give him an offer sheet, and he didn't want SA to match even if they did.

So the Spurs could've kept him for that money... I mean, what you're telling me the Spurs had him by the balls until they decided they didn't want to have him by the balls anymore.

[ElNono]

But Nono you're supposed to support DAFs master plan?

Who's DAF, tbh?

[gambit1990]

simmons is a chill dude. when he was at my friend's place in austin a few months ago he said their apartment was nicer than his :lol

[Hoops Czar]

Almost $7m guaranteed per year is not terrible money either for a guy scrapped from the bottom of the trash pile that's signing his first FA contract. He's basically making about 2x what Gary Neal made on his first non-Spurs deal, and I don't thin he had anywhere near the exposure Gary did.

He basically made the league.

Gary Neal hit free agency in a league that saw the Salary cap around 58-64M, not 94M. Simmons got payed decent scrub money in today's market.

[dabom]

So the Spurs could've kept him for that money... I mean, what you're telling me the Spurs had him by the balls until they decided they didn't want to have him by the balls anymore.
:lol

[TheDoctor]

Rudy Gay's achilles better think twice about dunking, tbh.

FIFY mi negro.

[Chinook]

So the Spurs could've kept him for that money... I mean, what you're telling me the Spurs had him by the balls until they decided they didn't want to have him by the balls anymore.

No. He didn't want to be in SA for that money. It wasn't about paying him more than anyone else. It was about him not wanting to stay unless they paid him huge money. He'd rather take $20M/3 in Orlando over that same price in SA.

And the second part is exactly what I'm saying. The Spurs weren't willing to play hardball with him. They likely could have gotten Simmons for near the QO if they really wanted to be pricks about it. But they tend to let guys go and no Motiejunas them.

[ElNono]

Gary Neal hit free agency in a league that saw the Salary cap around 58-64M, not 94M. Simmons got payed decent scrub money in today's market.

They both got about MLE money for undrafted players, which is a step up from Bryn Forbes money (that's real scrub money).

[SpurPadre]

FIFY mi negro.

LOL

[benefactor]

Good for him. As far as the league goes, he's as close to a self made millionaire as you can get. Hopefully he does right by his kids and doesn't fuck it away on bullshit.

[ElNono]

No. He didn't want to be in SA for that money. It wasn't about paying him more than anyone else. It was about him not wanting to stay unless they paid him huge money. He'd rather take $20M/3 in Orlando over that same price in SA.

And the second part is exactly what I'm saying. The Spurs weren't willing to play hardball with him. They likely could have gotten Simmons for near the QO if they really wanted to be pricks about it. But they tend to let guys go and no Motiejunas them.

But the second paragraph is the whole point. It's a business, not about being pricks or not. He was an asset valued at about MLE money. Sometimes you can be a business-smart prick. He wasn't walking away from the QO money if that's all he could get (and apparently that was it), so he signs that QO, you take him in and if he wants to go, you trade him and get something in return.

Like I said, we have very few players of value that can realistically be moved if we want to tweak things mid-season. You have to package half the scrubs on the team to hit that $7m mark.

[SAGirl]

It was obvious Pop and Simmons "didn't get along". Simmons is damn near the antithesis of a prototypical Spur. I remember the media asking him last season, after he had been benched and returned to the rotation, if he learned anything and he responded "nope". He was also dismissive when asked about Pop at All-Star weekend. It was played off as if it were a joke, but you could tell it wasn't.

Dedmon and Simmons (since he clearly never wanted to be a Spur, I'm glad he's gone) obviously weren't determining this team's fate, but the way their situations played out reaffirms this organization's narrow mindedness and is going to continue to make it difficult to appeal to prominent players, most of whom don't fit their culture.




He's probably got the inside track to being the third wing. Isaac will likely be brought along slowly and is a combo forward, while Hezonja played PF late last season and they're clearly at the point where they're not giving him anything.

I specifically remember his comments about Pop at the ASB. I didn't get a good feeling about it back then but didn't mention it bc my "love" for Anderson I would get unnecessary trolling. He didn't speak well of Pop, glowingly like others tend to do, and he wanted to change the subject back to himself quickly as he could.

[mookie2001]

The #5 Argie behind you, Alvarez_6, Unurobili*, and Hegagamboa the guy who thinks planet earth is 6,000 years old

[gambit1990]

so he'll be in the dunk contest this year?

[Chinook]

But the second paragraph is the whole point. It's a business, not about being pricks or not. He was an asset valued at about MLE money. Sometimes you can be a business-smart prick. He wasn't walking away from the QO money if that's all he could get (and apparently that was it), so he signs that QO, you take him in and if he wants to go, you trade him and get something in return.

Like I said, we have very few players of value that can realistically be moved if we want to tweak things mid-season. You have to package half the scrubs on the team to hit that $7m mark.

It doesn't make sense. Simmons out of the rotation on a $20M/3 is not an easy-to-move contract. Simmons upset and with a NTC isn't the greatest use of a roster spot for a team stacked with guards and without bigs. You're right that they could have ruined their reputation going Morey on him. But it wasn't worth it. Simmons wasn't worth it. Rather than going through any of that, Pop just checked his pockets and pulled out a new Simmons.

[ElNono]

The #5 Argie behind you, Alvarez_6, Unurobili*, and Hegagamboa the guy who thinks planet earth is 6,000 years old

Oh, DET guy... yeah, I don't know his plan. All I'm saying is that the Spurs could've gotten something in return after developing him and showing him to the world.

Maybe I'm wrong. It's ok.

[tmtcsc]

Apparently according to Marc Spears, Pop and Simmons didn't get along. Poop didn't like Simmons' showboating after dunks and Simmons felt restrained here. Reminds me of Dedmon getting pulled out in the playoffs after showing too much heart and fire.

That sounds like a bunch of bullshit.

[ElNono]

It doesn't make sense. Simmons out of the rotation on a $20M/3 is not an easy-to-move contract. Simmons upset and with a NTC isn't the greatest use of a roster spot for a team stacked with guards and without bigs. You're right that they could have ruined their reputation going Morey on him. But it wasn't worth it. Simmons wasn't worth it. Rather than going through any of that, Pop just checked his pockets and pulled out a new Simmons.

Who's the new Simmons?

[tmtcsc]

Rudy Gay being the marquee Spurs signing this off season. :lol

It was a GREAT pick up.

[Chinook]

Who's the new Simmons?

Paul

[ElNono]

Paul

We got Chris Paul?

[cjw]

This is the only deal worth more than the min that Simmons will see his entire career. You don't want to be paying any players who are in that boat. If the Spurs are relying on Juice, it's already a lost cause. He had ball in his hands in playoffs because there were literally no other options. I let the regular season replacement level play speak for itself over some sweet highlights.

This is no different than Boban. CoJo on the other hand, a necessary casualty because of Aldridge, is a different story. Not the sexiest but will be a rotation guy for years to come.

[John B]

If Spurs were going to lose him anyway, we could have sign and trade, package with Aldridge, anything instead of him walking away and Spurs getting nothing. Geez :bang

[Chinook]

We got Chris Paul?

Even better.

[ElNono]

Even better.

:lol

[tmtcsc]

Good for him. As far as the league goes, he's as close to a self made millionaire as you can get. Hopefully he does right by his kids and doesn't fuck it away on bullshit.

Yeah...wouldn't count on that. Dem spinnin rims on a convertible Bentley are on the way.

[BatManu20]

Quit telling Pop what to do. He has five rings. You have zero.

Lol Pop's a great coach, but he has 5 rings because of Tim Duncan... Get real :lol

[jermaine]

Fuck this nigga! He's gone!!! Get over it. You re gonna see how trashy he really is next season

[tonight...you]

As Harlem said, in this league, 3/$20m is not a 'huge' amount of money. But it's sizeable enough to land a decent trade deal. Who else they have of value for a potential mid-season trade? Patty is not going anywhere until we know more about Parker.

Maybe Danny and his $10m a year...
Old boy didn't want to be here. Haven't you been reading?

[GB20]

Lol Pop's a great coach, but he has 5 rings because of Tim Duncan... Get real :lol
I love Duncan but Pop took the team pretty far last year with out timmy.

[tmtcsc]

PATFO hates players that can potentially take away the attention from the organization. They want the credit all to themselves. Pop and RC loves to get stroked. They're not the innocent angles your average whataburger and American fans think they are.


https://media1.giphy.com/media/xTiTnhmdPF8qdqbFWE/200.gif#0-grid1

[Hoops Czar]

Lol Pop's a great coach, but he has 5 rings because of Tim Duncan... Get real :lol

And a 6th in the bag until he sat Duncan for the final play of 6.

[tmtcsc]

If he didn't want to be here, then Fuck Him and his 1 client fucking agent. What a joke.

[dbestpro]

Spurs look to go through the motions for the next year to get to the 2018 FA market. LMA will not be traded for fear of taking back multi-year salary.

[tonight...you]

If he didn't want to be here, then Fuck Him and his 1 client fucking agent. What a joke.
Old boy hated the Spurs before he signed on. He's a Rocket hoe.

[tmtcsc]

Old boy hated the Spurs before he signed on. He's a Rocket hoe.

:bobo Yep. He made that pretty clear in several interviews.

[rastaspur]

I'm not mad at you simmons. You earned a bump. Enjoy central florida. Be sure to recruit in the Gainesville and Tallahassee area for bitches to smoke blunts with. Two of the hot spots in the south.

[CGD]

Good for him! Get your money.
Now time for Spurs to close the chapter officially.

[dbestpro]

All people making a statement about POP on a rumour....

Today's NBA has no time for real coaches. It's all about playground rules with less defense for the NBA.

[Proxy]

shitting on Pop haha... Simmons doesn't like the coach that gave him a name? Laughable if true

[r0drig0lac]

shitting on Pop haha... Simmons doesn't like the coach that gave him a name? Laughable if true

[Mikeanaro]

Good luck man, feed those 4 kids.

http://www.hippoquotes.com/img/total-recall-quotes-benny/ayprh3.png

[tonight...you]

Good luck man, feed those 4 kids.

http://www.hippoquotes.com/img/total-recall-quotes-benny/ayprh3.png
That's it. I'm putting that shit on the TV right now. You dirty bastard... My wife is cursing you. Lol.

[Spurs9]

We couldn't afford 3 years 20million for him? :lol I thought someone would give him way more.

[tonight...you]

We couldn't afford 3 years 20million for him? :lol I thought someone would give him way more.
It wasn't about cost, homie. He didn't want to be here.

[tonight...you]

We couldn't afford 3 years 20million for him? :lol I thought someone would give him way more.
Oh, and funny that this was the best deal he could get on the open market.

[Spurs9]

This is probably the day racist PATFO had it.

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/A4yf2wAtw4xbWIkzg1nCETSqHpw=/400x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/8318413/leonard2.0.gif

The last guy that could wake up those fat AT&T Center fans. Gone. For 6M

:wow that dunk

[Kool Bob Love]

Kawhi running Simmons out of town.

[bklynspursfan]

This place and the theories. Golden

[bic50]

Kawhi running Simmons out of town.
Fake news

[bklynspursfan]

.

Ah so just more silly nonsense, gotcha

[024]

I didn't really want Simmons on a big contract but 3 yrs/20 million is a pretty team friendly deal. I wouldn't mind paying that much for some bench atheticism. Guess he just wanted a bigger role. Murray now has all the opportunity to prove himself. Unless he gets traded soon.

[bic50]

:bobo Yep. He made that pretty clear in several interviews.
Which interviews ?

[BSfromTX]

He wasn't a spur at heart. He had zero loyalty to the Spurs (not that he should), but maybe wasn't quite appreciative of the opportunity he was given. He's been trying to get to this point for a long time. He wanted money way more than anything else and that is totally understandable.

Spurs just dont don't feel he is worth what he could get elsewhere, and I probably agree. I don't expect him to continue his same line of progress in another system,, and I don't see him being motivated after making that pay day. Few "diamonds in the rough" that have left the Spurs have continued on to be successful somewhere else. A lot of people are acting like we let a future all star leave

white, Paul, and or blossomgame can probably become what Simmons is and then some

[Dverde]

I'll miss those sky high blocks. He is a solid defender. Magic made a good move. Wonder if they trade frenchie at the deadline to make Simmons their starting SG.

[jbspurs]

I don't think people understand how little Simmons got.

Exactly! I think he's worth more than what he got.

[jimbo]

Gary Neal hit free agency in a league that saw the Salary cap around 58-64M, not 94M. Simmons got payed decent scrub money in today's market.

That still translates to around the same or a better deal for Simmons who has done a whole lot less

[Chinook]

Exactly! I think he's worth more than what he got.

Well... I'm not going to get on that bus. I'd much rather have $6 Million in cap space than Simmons. I do expect the Spurs to fill in the "void" Simmons left really easily.

[bklynspursfan]

Well... I'm not going to get on that bus. I'd much rather have $6 Million in cap space than Simmons. I do expect the Spurs to fill in the "void" Simmons left really easily.

So we have 6 mil in cap space now? I know it was rumored about us giving Simmons 9mil/yr, but how does him not signing affect us?

Is that 6 mil left for Pau/*Manu(replacement maybe?) Im a noob to the cap stuff :)

[Chinook]

So we have 6 mil in cap space now? I know it was rumored about us giving Simmons 9mil/yr, but how does him not signing affect us?

Is that 6 mil left for Pau/*Manu(replacement maybe?) Im a noob to the cap stuff :)

The Spurs should not have cap space this year, but they do gain room under the apron to give Pau a one-year deal (as opposed to a two- or three-year deal) to make him whole. Next year, they WILL have that cap space, though.

[Mikeanaro]

That's it. I'm putting that shit on the TV right now. You dirty bastard... My wife is cursing you. Lol.
:lol Enjoy big guy!

[Mugen]

Good for him, hopefully he doesn't blow it all on child support. I appreciated his time on the club tbh.

[therealtruth]

Just lost one of the defenders needed for beating the Warriors. You need at least 4 really good defenders and 5 if they play their death lineup.

[bklynspursfan]

The Spurs should not have cap space this year, but they do gain room under the apron to give Pau a one-year deal (as opposed to a two- or three-year deal) to make him whole. Next year, they WILL have that cap space, though.

Gotcha.. so what could they offer $ wise to Pau/ potentially Manu? Vet Min's?

[DAF86]

Who's DAF, tbh?

Sup nigga? Nice to meet you.

[rastaspur]

Well... I'm not going to get on that bus. I'd much rather have $6 Million in cap space than Simmons. I do expect the Spurs to fill in the "void" Simmons left really easily.

Cosigned

[DAF86]

We couldn't afford 3 years 20million for him? :lol I thought someone would give him way more.

Why would anyone give more money for a player that sucks so much?

[Das Texan]

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his dumbass agent overplayed his hand. Genius.

[Das Texan]

Simmons for the vast majority of the season was a below replacement player anyway. Not really going to shed a few tears for a guy that never really improved his outside shot that much, but could throw a few dunks down and play some D.

Spurs need shooters more than anything else.