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raybies
07-15-2017, 10:32 PM
How long is this gonna take tbh

I'm thinking tomorrow morning.

Maybe a tad hopeful but at this point I'm good either way. On one hand the experience, leadership, and mentorship would be valuable. On the other hand, his further digression soaking up 20 minutes every night with less and less production is scary. I have no problem with him getting a good check cause we can afford it and it really doesn't affect anything, and Pau getting a 1 year deal too, and that will be that. But if he doesn't sign we'll have an open spot. That might make things a little interesting. But we'll see.

ole ole ole ole Manu Manu

BatManu20
07-15-2017, 10:44 PM
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SnakeBoy
07-15-2017, 10:48 PM
The fact that we haven't heard makes me think he's coming back, just giving the Spurs time to complete their off season moves.

SAGirl
07-15-2017, 11:34 PM
Do you remember Manu's end of the season interview where he said he could come back and play just 5 minutes and be fine.. in a joking fashion.. Sometimes those kinds of sarcastic jokes reflect some truth.

Russ
07-16-2017, 12:12 AM
The fact that we haven't heard makes me think he's coming back, just giving the Spurs time to complete their off season moves.

It might be more helpful (for purposes of the Spurs making moves) for Manu to fucking tell them what he's going to do.

That said, please come back Manu.

apalisoc_9
07-16-2017, 12:23 AM
According to manu4tress he's coming back...

weebo
07-16-2017, 07:43 AM
He's coming back. The Spurs know he's coming back.

Spurtacular
07-16-2017, 07:49 AM
Do you remember Manu's end of the season interview where he said he could come back and play just 5 minutes and be fine.. in a joking fashion.. Sometimes those kinds of sarcastic jokes reflect some truth.

I don't remember that; but I think Manu still enjoys playing and is humble enough to accept a diminished role because he's always been a team-first guy. Anybody that doesn't want Manu back is a troll who still doesn't get the essence of the Spurs after all this.

Spurtacular
07-16-2017, 07:50 AM
BTW, my sources inform me that Manu is coming back.

Ice009
07-16-2017, 08:36 AM
BTW, my sources inform me that Manu is coming back.

What sources?

btw, I didn't notice that your avatar was from 'Turn.' I kept looking at it and thinking that it looks familiar, but couldn't place where those characters were from. I watched the first season of that a few years ago, but I never got around to watching the following seasons. Great show. I watched the first season during the 2014 Championship run.

Mr. Body
07-16-2017, 08:50 AM
The league is so bereft of talent I can't see them doing better than Ginobili at this point.

cutewizard
07-16-2017, 09:05 AM
Bring back Manu and Gasol

dbestpro
07-16-2017, 09:21 AM
The league is so bereft of talent I can't see them doing better than Ginobili at this point.

There is talent but not the kind of talent that supports a 3 point chuck it league. I wish the league would allow the type of defense that the Pistons use to play to emerge, again. Physical size and talent has been pushed aside in this era of the game.

Spurs9
07-16-2017, 09:47 AM
In b4 12 million loyalty contract.

Chillen
07-16-2017, 09:48 AM
He has another season in him, that block on James Harden in the playoffs proved it. Pop will have to keep his minutes managed well. Still a prime 2005 Ginobili vs Warriors in the WCF would have managed a win or two out of that series instead of a sweep with that team the Spurs had after the Parker, Leonard injurys,. So yes he has naturally slowed a bit but is still a very effective, smart basketball player.

8FOR!3
07-16-2017, 10:12 AM
In b4 12 million loyalty contract.

If it's one year who cares how much we pay him we're not signing anyone else...

Idk how much we can pay him for this year but he probably deserves as much as we can give him and then some.

mookie2001
07-16-2017, 10:36 AM
And this guys supposed to be the ultimate team-player and true professional. Rofl

SpurOutofTownFan
07-16-2017, 10:45 AM
And this guys supposed to be the ultimate team-player and true professional. Rofl

what do you mean?

Spurtacular
07-16-2017, 10:46 AM
What sources?

btw, I didn't notice that your avatar was from 'Turn.' I kept looking at it and thinking that it looks familiar, but couldn't place where those characters were from. I watched the first season of that a few years ago, but I never got around to watching the following seasons. Great show. I watched the first season during the 2014 Championship run.

I could never out my sources on the board. Maybe, if you PM'd.

Yea, Turn is a great show. First season was good; second was even better. There's limited historical matter and so as it goes, they're more making stuff up, whereas in the beginning it was more precise in its factual structure. This season the fourth is the final season; probably due to the show not being profitable enough just as much as anything. Not enough people into history, sadly.

Ice009
07-16-2017, 11:20 AM
I could never out my sources on the board. Maybe, if you PM'd.

Yea, Turn is a great show. First season was good; second was even better. There's limited historical matter and so as it goes, they're more making stuff up, whereas in the beginning it was more precise in its factual structure. This season the fourth is the final season; probably due to the show not being profitable enough just as much as anything. Not enough people into history, sadly.

I should have said that I wasn't outright asking for who your sources were, just wondering if you think they are legit. If so, then that is good enough for me.

Yeah, I'll start watching Turn again, kind of sucks if they go away from the factual structure that they started the show with, but I guess that won't put me off watching it. I also read the 4th season is the final season so that is kind of a downer. I don't know much about US history, so that is a reason why I like watching these kind of shows (even if they aren't accurate).

Spurs9
07-16-2017, 11:24 AM
If it's one year who cares how much we pay him we're not signing anyone else...

Idk how much we can pay him for this year but he probably deserves as much as we can give him and then some.

:pop:

davi78239
07-16-2017, 11:26 AM
You know what annoys me? If he comes back and then does this shit again next summer. If he does come back, he needs to confirm that this Will be it. Enough with the cute games already!

hater
07-16-2017, 11:41 AM
Retire loser

Go back to guatemala

mookie2001
07-16-2017, 11:50 AM
what do you mean? help out the franchise and decide already, think of your teammates first

Capt Bringdown
07-16-2017, 11:51 AM
Still a prime 2005 Ginobili vs Warriors in the WCF would have managed a win or two out of that series instead of a sweep with that team the Spurs had after the Parker, Leonard injurys,.

Imagine what a prime 1978 Gervin would have done. Sign him!

LOL, Manu fans

daslicer
07-16-2017, 11:56 AM
Imagine what a prime 1978 Gervin would have done. Sign him!

LOL, Manu fans

:lmao While we are at it imagine what prime 1994 David Robinson would have down against the Warriors. I have heard his back has recovered. I'm pretty sure we could get him for cheap.

cd98
07-16-2017, 02:33 PM
Sadly 40 year old Manu probably best point guard on this roster.

ElNono
07-16-2017, 05:45 PM
Is this what this offseason has devolved to? See if the Gasol and Manu mummies come back? :lol

SpurOutofTownFan
07-16-2017, 05:46 PM
help out the franchise and decide already, think of your teammates first

you said: "And this guys supposed to be the ultimate team-player and true professional. Rofl"

not exactly the same things

SAGirl
07-16-2017, 05:49 PM
Is this what this offseason has devolved to? See if the Gasol and Manu mummies come back? :lol
Yup. After the Summer of Simmons... who spurned the Spurs btw.... there's nothing left. :lol I suppose Euroleague games are coming up. Can watch Bertans there but not that excited about him after he was so meh in summer league.

kuato
07-16-2017, 06:59 PM
Is this what this offseason has devolved to? See if the Gasol and Manu mummies come back? :lol

Not a bad plot, i hope not to see Tom Cruise playing for the Spurs in this movie

Spurtacular
07-16-2017, 07:11 PM
Yeah, I'll start watching Turn again, kind of sucks if they go away from the factual structure that they started the show with, but I guess that won't put me off watching it. I also read the 4th season is the final season so that is kind of a downer. I don't know much about US history, so that is a reason why I like watching these kind of shows (even if they aren't accurate).

Well, the basic history is preserved. They're just taking more poetic license. I won't do spoilers; but I read the book, so I have an idea of exactly what's what. But they aren't making any pivotal changes to the history.

CGD
07-16-2017, 08:26 PM
The longer it goes, seems to me, the more he's leaning retirement

illusioNtEk
07-16-2017, 09:11 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_b4A_KW0AUzxcu.jpg
fuck you manu haters... get that shit outta here nigga

Ice009
07-16-2017, 10:49 PM
I'm sorry Manu, you are one of my favourite players ever, but what in the fuck are you waiting for? Either retire or announce you're coming back. Stop fucking around. What the F is he waiting for? Either you want to play or you don't. If you feel you can still play at a high level and your body can take it, stop messing around and announce something, anything.

TheGreatYacht
07-16-2017, 11:15 PM
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DMC
07-17-2017, 08:08 AM
I'm sorry Manu, you are one of my favourite players ever, but what in the fuck are you waiting for? Either retire or announce you're coming back. Stop fucking around. What the F is he waiting for? Either you want to play or you don't. If you feel you can still play at a high level and your body can take it, stop messing around and announce something, anything.

I think he wants to know how he feels after his 40 year old body has recovered and he's considering entering preseason.. maybe he thinks "nah fuck that".

Ice009
07-17-2017, 08:40 AM
I think he wants to know how he feels after his 40 year old body has recovered and he's considering entering preseason.. maybe he thinks "nah fuck that".

The Spurs didn't make the finals so his body has plenty of time to recover. He didn't suffer any significant injuries, so he should know by now if it's anything to do with his body. TD last off-season, I read that he started his normal workouts after taking a few weeks off at the end of the season like he normally does, and his good knee would not respond, did not respond the way he expected it to, so that was the main reason he called it quits. Manu's not in the same boat with an injury like Tim picked up halfway through that season so I don't see why it's taking so long.

jermaine
07-17-2017, 08:51 AM
The Spurs didn't make the finals so his body has plenty of time to recover. He didn't suffer any significant injuries, so he should know by now if it's anything to do with his body. TD last off-season, I read that he started his normal workouts after taking a few weeks off at the end of the season like he normally does, and his good knee would not respond, did not respond the way he expected it to, so that was the main reason he called it quits. Manu's not in the same boat with an injury like Tim picked up halfway through that season so I don't see why it's taking so long.

He's reading Spurstalk an all other Spurs related sites, an feeling not wanted. Therefore he's not sure what he wants to do.

sasaint
07-17-2017, 09:39 AM
The Spurs didn't make the finals so his body has plenty of time to recover. He didn't suffer any significant injuries, so he should know by now if it's anything to do with his body. TD last off-season, I read that he started his normal workouts after taking a few weeks off at the end of the season like he normally does, and his good knee would not respond, did not respond the way he expected it to, so that was the main reason he called it quits. Manu's not in the same boat with an injury like Tim picked up halfway through that season so I don't see why it's taking so long.

I think Manu is inclined to hang 'em up, but Pop is begging him to come back.

rastaspur
07-17-2017, 10:13 AM
Multiple sauces of mine confirm manu isn't even sure. Sepo thinks he is getting dimentia. He's getting kind of old.

Last Wednesday he was coming back.

Last Thursday he was excited about argentina's chances in the 2004 olympics and thought they could win gold.

Last Friday he was leaning towards retiring.

Dverde
07-17-2017, 10:47 AM
Manu still waiting on that one year deal from 76ers or Nets for leverage.

mookie2001
07-17-2017, 12:53 PM
Disgraceful.

Pocho La Pantera
07-17-2017, 02:51 PM
I think FO knows exactly what Manu will do.

jermaine
07-17-2017, 03:25 PM
Manu(Brett Favre)Ginobili needs to be sure of his future you guys. It's important to be patient!!!

raybies
07-17-2017, 04:23 PM
July 17, 2017

Still no decision...

Kindergarten Cop
07-17-2017, 04:40 PM
I think FO knows exactly what Manu will do.

tholdren
07-17-2017, 04:59 PM
Yep

Phenomanul
07-17-2017, 05:13 PM
The only prima donnas here are the ones demanding that Manu "make a decision" NOW. His decision isn't holding back any of the FO's short term or long term plans. Settle down people.

Manu was one of the only Spurs players playing with any heart and competitive fire in the post-Kawhi injury Warriors series. His competitive drive isn't easily replaceable.

daledondale
07-17-2017, 05:28 PM
The only prima donnas here are the ones demanding that Manu "make a decision" NOW. His decision isn't holding back any of the FO's short term or long term plans. Settle down people.

Manu was one of the only Spurs players playing with any heart and competitive fire in the post-Kawhi injury Warriors series. His competitive drive isn't easily replaceable.https://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/1381885278_applause-gif-3.gif

spurs1990
07-17-2017, 05:30 PM
Didn't Durant say this past year Manu was his favorite or one of his favorite players coming up?

At least maybe with Manu on the court Durant may let his guard down a tad during the 2018 WCF.

TimDunkem
07-17-2017, 06:06 PM
Didn't Durant say this past year Manu was his favorite or one of his favorite players coming up?

At least maybe with Manu on the court Durant may let his guard down a tad during the 2018 WCF.
That makes no sense.

spurs1990
07-17-2017, 06:31 PM
That makes no sense.

An attempt at frivolity.

Not a very good one so it would seem.

Duncanforthree
07-17-2017, 10:06 PM
Manu is going to piss on all the haters here and sign with GSW.

bklynspursfan
07-18-2017, 10:46 AM
Manu Ginobili and the Spurs are finalizing details of his imminent return for a 16th NBA season, league sources tell ESPN. per Woj

raybies
07-18-2017, 10:46 AM
Manu Ginobili and the Spurs are finalizing details of his imminent return for a 16th NBA season, league sources tell ESPN.

SPURt
07-18-2017, 10:50 AM
Yay!!!! Lol

peacemaker885
07-18-2017, 10:52 AM
Manu! Manu! Manu!

jiggy_55
07-18-2017, 10:53 AM
Manu will be back

SAGirl
07-18-2017, 10:53 AM
Not surprised. With so many rooks and guys that are still sprouting his veteran leadership will be welcom but it was really time to retire.... I hope it's really his last season... Manu is starting to hang on too long.

jyra
07-18-2017, 10:54 AM
Good to see him back. I wonder how much he is going to get.

TheRemix
07-18-2017, 10:55 AM
Definitley his last rodeo

TE
07-18-2017, 10:57 AM
:tu Glad to see the old man return for one more year.

Joseph Kony
07-18-2017, 10:58 AM
Might as well at this point. Punted season. Develop the youngins. Let manu have his farewell tour. Be rid of Tony/Manu and start fresh next summer and make a run at big name FAs in hopes some of our young players pan out and Kawhi takes another step forward.

DPG21920
07-18-2017, 11:00 AM
I think it was about money. It was prob a leverage move. If he was coming back for the min they could have negotiated with Pau already.

I bet anything it's not the min.

itzkarl813
07-18-2017, 11:04 AM
GINNNOBILLLLLIIIII!!!! Say what you want but this guy can still contribute! Not many bring his leadership, or fire to a squad like him. Glad he will be along to mentor the younger guys! All is not lost Spurs fans, GO SPURS GO!

raybies
07-18-2017, 11:08 AM
Kind of disappointed... Could get ugly this year for him. Season, he should be fine, but playoffs I'm concerned. Definitely like him mentoring the kids.

Spurs9
07-18-2017, 11:09 AM
:depressed

bklynspursfan
07-18-2017, 11:11 AM
Kind of disappointed... Could get ugly this year for him. Season, he should be fine, but playoffs I'm concerned. Definitely like him mentoring the kids.

I think if Pop rests him even more in the reg season , it'll be the opposite. I think they both realize the slow start he had and will want to do what they can to prevent that from happening

RD2191
07-18-2017, 11:15 AM
TheGreatYacht

Pocho La Pantera
07-18-2017, 11:16 AM
Great News, fck tgy and his troll buddies.

Clipper Nation
07-18-2017, 11:20 AM
:lmao TheGreatYacht
:lmao Faggot

Trill Clinton
07-18-2017, 11:21 AM
http://i66.tinypic.com/jl451s.jpg

rjv
07-18-2017, 11:29 AM
waiting for ST to implode.

bklynspursfan
07-18-2017, 11:30 AM
The Spurs are working to finalize a new deal with free agent center Pau Gasol too, league sources said. also per Woj

SASdynasty!
07-18-2017, 11:31 AM
2016-17

Regular Season

Tony Parker: 10/5 on 47%
Manu Ginobili: 8/3 on 39%

Playoffs:

Tony Parker: 16/3 on 53%
Manu Ginobili: 7/2 on 41%

---

Glad Manu's back, but this board is a disgrace for not wanting Parker back tbh.

Clipper Nation
07-18-2017, 11:36 AM
Championships Choked Away:

Porker: 2004, 2006, 2013

Manu: N/A

KDKSpurs24
07-18-2017, 11:38 AM
2016-17

Regular Season

Tony Parker: 10/5 on 47%
Manu Ginobili: 8/3 on 39%

Playoffs:

Tony Parker: 16/3 on 53%
Manu Ginobili: 7/2 on 41%

---

Glad Manu's back, but this board is a disgrace for not wanting Parker back tbh.

When I think about Tony's return, I think about his DEFENSE not his offense. And it's definitely a liability. Especially if he's having a bad offensive night and can't penetrate it's even worse. And with the injury I doubt he can penetrate anymore.

Pocho La Pantera
07-18-2017, 11:45 AM
Please not a Parker vs Ginobili thread.

Play Boban
07-18-2017, 11:53 AM
I'm getting hard.

mookie2001
07-18-2017, 11:53 AM
I guess the sea levels will eventually float him out of San Antonio

Play Boban
07-18-2017, 11:54 AM
2016-17

Regular Season

Tony Parker: 10/5 on 47%
Manu Ginobili: 8/3 on 39%

Playoffs:

Tony Parker: 16/3 on 53%
Manu Ginobili: 7/2 on 41%

---

Glad Manu's back, but this board is a disgrace for not wanting Parker back tbh.
TS% would be a more accurate metric, however.

Joseph Kony
07-18-2017, 11:57 AM
For players that don't get to the line much and don't shoot a lot of threes, TS% is fairly worthless

Mikeanaro
07-18-2017, 11:58 AM
Kind of disappointed... Could get ugly this year for him. Season, he should be fine, but playoffs I'm concerned. Definitely like him mentoring the kids.
Thats sad niggie, it seems you have a very short memory, this was Manu, not LMAO, not Kawhi, not Simmons or any other young gun.

Playoffs, at almost 40 years old delivering the goods vs a 400 mil dollar ¨superstar¨

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2017/05/10/sports/10NBAfinal/10NBAfinal-master768.jpg

Proxy
07-18-2017, 11:58 AM
good, glad he's back

rastaspur
07-18-2017, 12:06 PM
Glad to have ginobili back. alot of fans just weren't ready to say goodbye yet, with me included.

look_at_g_shred
07-18-2017, 12:13 PM
idk how to feel about it

Horse
07-18-2017, 12:14 PM
Manu can stay as long as long as he wants far as I'm concerned. He still shows more heart than most of our team.

benefactor
07-18-2017, 12:23 PM
He produced the most memorable night I've ever watched in person. Welcome back, Manu. One more time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6VIz-bEtk4

Chomag
07-18-2017, 12:26 PM
Manu's heart has never been in question, hopefully his body at least tries to do a tenth of what his heart wants to do.

Chinook
07-18-2017, 12:26 PM
With Simmons gone and no new guard, it could be worse. Hopefully, he doesn't take so much that Pau gets a two-year deal.

Strategic
07-18-2017, 12:28 PM
It's the easiest way for PATFO to fill seats, so why not?

urunobili
07-18-2017, 12:31 PM
League Pass purchase, confirmed, a couple of games attendance, confirmed, farewell jersey buy, confirmed... :tu

rjv
07-18-2017, 12:31 PM
i'm just waiting on the details of manu's can pau's contracts before i make any judgement. my main thing is summer of 2018 and our cap space.

spurs10
07-18-2017, 12:43 PM
Great news! Manu brings a lot passion and energy. Nobody brings the people in like him. It will be great seeing him this season!

baseline bum
07-18-2017, 12:50 PM
Is Manu going to have to take a big paycut to make this work under the cap? Because they're not using the MLE for Gay, as that would need to be a three year contract I think. So after signing Gay that leaves around $16 million for Manu and Pau. So I wonder if this is something like Pau signing a 3 years, $33 million deal or so and then Manu gets the other roughly $5 million? I'd love to see Manu get $14 million again after the paycuts he took in his prime but I don't think the team could work that under the cap without saying bye to Gasol or Aldridge.

Keepin' it real
07-18-2017, 01:01 PM
Definitley his last rodeo

Could have said that last year, and the year before that.

Spurs9
07-18-2017, 01:03 PM
Is Manu going to have to take a big paycut to make this work under the cap? Because they're not using the MLE for Gay, as that would need to be a three year contract I think. So after signing Gay that leaves around $16 million for Manu and Pau. So I wonder if this is something like Pau signing a 3 years, $33 million deal or so and then Manu gets the other roughly $5 million? I'd love to see Manu get $14 million again after the paycuts he took in his prime but I don't think the team could work that under the cap without saying bye to Gasol or Aldridge.

:lol

Chinook
07-18-2017, 01:11 PM
Is Manu going to have to take a big paycut to make this work under the cap? Because they're not using the MLE for Gay, as that would need to be a three year contract I think. So after signing Gay that leaves around $16 million for Manu and Pau. So I wonder if this is something like Pau signing a 3 years, $33 million deal or so and then Manu gets the other roughly $5 million? I'd love to see Manu get $14 million again after the paycuts he took in his prime but I don't think the team could work that under the cap without saying bye to Gasol or Aldridge.

The Spurs are totally using the MLE on Gay.

baseline bum
07-18-2017, 01:17 PM
The Spurs are totally using the MLE on Gay.

Can you do that on a two year deal under the current CBA? I know you couldn't before.

Chinook
07-18-2017, 01:18 PM
Can you do that on a two year deal under the current CBA? I know you couldn't before.

You could always do it. It was S&Ts that had to be three-years. The Warriors just gave Nick Young a one-year MLE deal, as another example.

duncan2k5
07-18-2017, 01:21 PM
This will be a disaster... 40 year old ginobili going up against a slew of athletes in the playoffs

baseline bum
07-18-2017, 01:21 PM
You could always do it. It was S&Ts that had to be three-years. The Warriors just gave Nick Young a one-year MLE deal, as another example.

OK, thanks for clearing that up. Hopefully this means they give Gasol his $16 million back for one year to preserve flexibility for next summer.

Chinook
07-18-2017, 01:23 PM
OK, thanks for clearing that up. Hopefully this means they give Gasol his $16 million back for one year to preserve flexibility for next summer.

Simmons leaving gave the team the room they needed to re-up Pau and stay under the tax. But Manu coming back for more than the LLE would kill that. I'll be peeved if Manu gets like $8 Million and Pau gets $30M/3.

Ice009
07-18-2017, 01:25 PM
OK, thanks for clearing that up. Hopefully this means they give Gasol his $16 million back for one year to preserve flexibility for next summer.

I hope so too, but Gasol said he wanted/hoped to sign a multi-year deal. Hopefully, it's just a one year deal.

Seventyniner
07-18-2017, 01:25 PM
The addition of Rudy Gay made it easier for Manu to come back. Last year's bench didn't have any volume scorers to take the offensive pressure off of Manu. Off-ball guys like Mills and Bertans along with Anderson being best as a low-usage player made it difficult for Manu to keep things going.

Chinook
07-18-2017, 01:31 PM
The addition of Rudy Gay made it easier for Manu to come back. Last year's bench didn't have any volume scorers to take the offensive pressure off of Manu. Off-ball guys like Mills and Bertans along with Anderson being best as a low-usage player made it difficult for Manu to keep things going.

So who do you want as the fifth starter if you want Gay coming off the bench?

Canyonero
07-18-2017, 01:32 PM
Best guard in the team coming back

Big Empty
07-18-2017, 01:36 PM
HEB should feature everyone bringing Manu gifts this year. Like HEB adult diapers, Metamucil or clippers to shave his head ha Gonna be a new killer year of HEB commercials

spurraider21
07-18-2017, 01:39 PM
:bobo

spurs1990
07-18-2017, 01:45 PM
I know a lot of people are agitated in feeling like this was a loyalty transaction. I totally get that.

But ask yourself who, or which swingman would the Spurs have signed in place of Manu Ginobili that would've made a bigger, or even the same impact on the team, locker room, and their chances of getting out of the West next season.
Against a team that just went 16-1 in the postseason and looks to have gotten even better.

Can you not argue that there's nothing to be done other than to stay the course and hope that somehow everything works out. Just for one more year at least.

Besides, a few (or a whole lot of) breaks here and there and you never know.

SpurOutofTownFan
07-18-2017, 01:54 PM
This will be a disaster... 40 year old ginobili going up against a slew of athletes in the playoffs

This actually happened a little less than 2 months ago and it wasn't a disaster and the guy was one of the best players with a Spur shirt. He went against a slew of athletes in the playoffs and even delivered one of the best blocks you have or will ever seen on one of the great players of the current NBA, an MVP finalist in Harden.

So, there you go...

SAGirl
07-18-2017, 02:07 PM
I know a lot of people are agitated in feeling like this was a loyalty transaction. I totally get that.

But ask yourself who, or which swingman would the Spurs have signed in place of Manu Ginobili that would've made a bigger, or even the same impact on the team, locker room, and their chances of getting out of the West next season.
Against a team that just went 16-1 in the postseason and looks to have gotten even better.

Can you not argue that there's nothing to be done other than to stay the course and hope that somehow everything works out. Just for one more year at least.

Besides, a few (or a whole lot of) breaks here and there and you never know.

I don't know about others... but I am not really agitated... I kind of expected it at this point, specially after Jsimms decided not to come back and money wasn't really the reason, but him citing playing time and opportunities to continue to develop. For the smart person, you could deduce signing Rudy Gay and Manu coming back were the likely unspoken reasons he didn't expect his role or minutes to increase. Hanga also doing a 180 turn and reupping in Spain gave an inkling Manu was coming back too.

It doesn't matter. In reality at this point, the team already decided they were not going to seek a guard that could contribute in the FA market. The time to make significant contributors at the guards spots is passed. That's why I expressed disappointment at the Mills signing originally... it wasn't some Mills-hate campaign. It just signaled they were standing pat with their guard rotations from last season.

BatManu20
07-18-2017, 02:16 PM
The Gods have spoken. :flag:


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BatManu20
07-18-2017, 02:18 PM
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Hoops Czar
07-18-2017, 02:21 PM
Woj with the brain fart bads.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20095850/manu-ginobili-finalizing-details-return-san-antonio-spurs


Despite Ginobili's advanced age, the guard has never showed any real signs of regressing. Ginobili did miss his first 15 shots of the playoffs, leading many to wonder whether it was time for him to call it quits. :lmao

BatManu20
07-18-2017, 02:23 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFB9NW5VYAAtNbQ?format=jpg&name=large

DAF86
07-18-2017, 02:39 PM
I think it was about money. It was prob a leverage move. If he was coming back for the min they could have negotiated with Pau already.

I bet anything it's not the min.

No point at getting the min when we all know the Spurs can't sign anybody of worth, tbh. What's left of the cap space will be divided between Manu and Pau.

spursistan
07-18-2017, 02:40 PM
Fuck yeah..

Something to look for in what is shaping up to be a lost season for Spurs...Love to see Manu be around these younglings for another year..Hopefully the price tag isn't controversial so not to mar his farewell tour, or is it really ? :lol....

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2017, 02:57 PM
Time to hold back the youth, and in his own words, help the other team during the playoffs.

I better not hear a Mexican complaining when Parker plays till he's 41.

spursistan
07-18-2017, 02:57 PM
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TheGreatYacht
07-18-2017, 03:00 PM
887361540516708352
Lmao pandering to the Mexicans. He knows he's Austin Bound after this. Sucks.

spursistan
07-18-2017, 03:01 PM
^^ With Parker Out and unsure of when and how he'll return, Spurs needed an on-court mentor for the many young guards they have on the roster, tbh.

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2017, 03:04 PM
^^ With Parker Out and unsure of when and how he'll return, Spurs needed an on-court mentor for the many young guards they have on the roster, tbh.
Kawhi is that mentor....

TheDoctor
07-18-2017, 03:10 PM
Woj delivering the goods per par:

887337712516202497

:lol @ insider:

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spursistan
07-18-2017, 03:13 PM
Woj delivering the goods per par:

887337712516202497

:lol @ insider:

887396546442080256

Jeff McDonald "Spurs insider" :lmao..

DAF86
07-18-2017, 03:15 PM
So who do you want as the fifth starter if you want Gay coming off the bench?

Bertans.

Chinook
07-18-2017, 03:19 PM
Bertans.

Murray at PG or Mills?

DAF86
07-18-2017, 03:19 PM
Time to hold back the youth, and in his own words, help the other team during the playoffs.

I better not hear a Mexican complaining when Parker plays till he's 41.

Dude, chill out. We weren't going anywhere this year anyway. Might as well give Manu his farewell tour (not to mention that he was still the best SG available). Just relax and let it go so that it hurts less, tbh.

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-18-2017, 03:23 PM
Fantastic news!

DAF86
07-18-2017, 03:26 PM
Murray at PG or Mills?

I would prefer Murray.

Murray, Danny, Kawhi, Bertans, *shrug Aldridge *shrug

You have floor spreaders in Green and Bertans, the go to guy in Kawhi, the "post player" (:rolleyes) in Aldridge, and the slasher in Murray (if he can expand on the flashes he showed last year). That's a pretty balanced lineup. And on defense, despite being a smallish lineup we still present above average length in all positions.

Then you have Patty, Manu, Anderson, Gay and Pau to crush opposing benches.

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2017, 03:29 PM
Dude, chill out. We weren't going anywhere this year anyway. Might as well give Manu his farewell tour (not to mention that he was still the best SG available). Just relax and let it go so that it hurts less, tbh.
Last year was the farewell tour and those $14M were a parting gift. Now this year is truly the farewell tour and so will next year, and the year after that, and the year after that one, etc.

The shooting guard position will never be addressed as long as this scrub is on the team. It's just putting a band-aid on a giant crack on the Hoover Dam

DAF86
07-18-2017, 03:31 PM
Last year was the farewell tour and those $14M were a parting gift. Now this year is truly the farewell tour and so will next year, and the year after that, and the year after that one, etc.

The shooting guard position will never be addressed as long as this scrub is on the team. It's just putting a band-aid on a giant crack on the Hoover Dam

You wanted to adress it giving a D-leaguer 10 millions per year. :lol

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2017, 03:34 PM
You wanted to adress it giving a D-leaguer 10 millions per year. :lol
I never wanted to give Green 10M/yr :lol

I wanted our best SG last year to get paid, who was on a minimum contract while 2 TOSB shootings guards were making a combined $24,000,000

Keepin' it real
07-18-2017, 03:37 PM
Can Manu get $25M like Kome in his final season?

Chinook
07-18-2017, 03:39 PM
I wanted our best SG last year to get paid

Kyle will get his due next summer. Calm your tits.

SAGirl
07-18-2017, 03:43 PM
Kyle will get his due next summer. Calm your tits.

:downspin::lmao

Hopefully that causes TheGreatYacht an aneurysm, and he bandwagons to the Rockets or something, since he's such a fan of the SG position. :lol

DeRozan m8
07-18-2017, 03:48 PM
I never wanted to give Green 10M/yr :lol

I wanted our best SG last year to get paid, who was on a minimum contract while 2 TOSB shootings guards were making a combined $24,000,000

At least someone around here speaks the truth...

I'm so sick of fans supporting team crushing decisions like keeping on Manu and Danny...

They're literally holding the team back...

Tgy :toast

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2017, 03:48 PM
:downspin::lmao

Hopefully that causes TheGreatYacht an aneurysm, and he bandwagons to the Rockets or something, since he's such a fan of the SG position. :lol
You'll be bandwagoning some Chinese team next year when Fathead gets kicked off the team by BP3 :lol

spursistan
07-18-2017, 03:49 PM
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Tangent: Holy shit Manu was on a fuckin mission in 2014 :lol..

This what defines him at this point: the little things; the intangibles; the wily vet moves, here and there--certainly not the 82-game grind performance, which is a shame but understandable...It won't stop him from giving it all, though.

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2017, 03:51 PM
At least someone around here speaks the truth...

I'm so sick of fans supporting team crushing decisions like keeping on Manu and Danny...

They're literally holding the team back...

Tgy :toast
One of the best posters around, right here ^

Next his fluffers will say Manu will take a reduced role..... as he continues to be the first player off the bench and a closer in crunch time :wakeup

More choked free throws coming right up.

Mikeanaro
07-18-2017, 03:56 PM
Mugen remember this?

https://dc687.4shared.com/img/OrbIjO6Sba/s24/14eb3ea61d8/Fuck_Mugen?async&rand=0.5045471072860566

:lol

RD2191
07-18-2017, 04:08 PM
At least someone around here speaks the truth...

I'm so sick of fans supporting team crushing decisions like keeping on Manu and Danny...

They're literally holding the team back...

Tgy :toast

Don't forget about me. Spurs should've moved green and told manu to gtfo. Money should've gone to j simms or a free agent who wasn't 40 or one who could actually dribble a basketball.

RD2191
07-18-2017, 04:08 PM
And fuck patty mills TBH

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2017, 04:17 PM
Don't forget about me. Spurs should've moved green and told manu to gtfo. Money should've gone to j simms or a free agent who wasn't 40 or one who could actually dribble a basketball.

And fuck patty mills TBH
This was a fitting end a terrible 1.5/10 offseason by PATFO. Just when you thought they couldn't possibly believe that a surrounding cast that couldn't hold on to a 23pt lead for 3 minutes was worth bringing back. The bring them back and handicap themselves in the future by overpaying those same scrubs.

tonight...you
07-18-2017, 04:19 PM
Don't forget about me. Spurs should've moved green and told manu to gtfo. Money should've gone to j simms or a free agent who wasn't 40 or one who could actually dribble a basketball.
Ain't nobody forgetting a Legend.

DeRozan m8
07-18-2017, 04:21 PM
Don't forget about me. Spurs should've moved green and told manu to gtfo. Money should've gone to j simms or a free agent who wasn't 40 or one who could actually dribble a basketball.

:toast

It just amazes me how people seem to forget all the terrible games or are afraid to let go.

They also won't look into the future and development.

It's not 2005 anymore....

Everyone...move the fuck on

BatManu20
07-18-2017, 05:05 PM
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BatManu20
07-18-2017, 05:06 PM
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Capt Bringdown
07-18-2017, 05:07 PM
Spurs aren't serious about fielding a competitive team next year, and/or are grossly incompetent.

bklynspursfan
07-18-2017, 05:22 PM
Spurs aren't serious about fielding a competitive team next year, and/or are grossly incompetent.

Bet you felt the same after our 2013 finals loss.

Chillen
07-18-2017, 05:24 PM
If the Warriors were clapping me off I'd return to, Manu is to competitive to end his career like that with the Spurs banged up (Leonard, Parker) and the Warriors clapping him off. Hope he has a great season!

tonight...you
07-18-2017, 05:27 PM
Bet you felt the same after our 2013 finals loss.
He's Capt Bringdown. What do you expect?

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2017, 05:27 PM
Bet you felt the same after our 2013 finals loss.
That team was seconds away from a title and had Tim Duncan, prime Parker, and Kawhi lmfao. If you think that = Lamarsha + washed Gay :lol....

bklynspursfan
07-18-2017, 05:47 PM
That team was seconds away from a title and had Tim Duncan, prime Parker, and Kawhi lmfao. If you think that = Lamarsha + washed Gay :lol....

How do you know Gay is washed? Probably a good idea to see him play a few months in before coming to that conclusion.

And no, that team isn't them. But we were a Zaza cheap play away from who possibly another finals appearance or deep WCF run.

Pocho La Pantera
07-18-2017, 05:47 PM
That team was seconds away from a title and had Tim Duncan, prime Parker, and Kawhi lmfao. If you think that = Lamarsha + washed Gay :lol.... that was prime Parker? Hahhaa

tonight...you
07-18-2017, 05:57 PM
How do you know Gay is washed? Probably a good idea to see him play a few months in before coming to that conclusion.

And no, that team isn't them. But we were a Zaza cheap play away from who possibly another finals appearance or deep WCF run.
Dude, you be talking to the wrong guy. This old boy got his persona and God Dammit, he's sticking to it.
Manu coming back is the best thing to ever happen to him. He's got nothing to do around here otherwise.

Seventyniner
07-18-2017, 06:36 PM
So who do you want as the fifth starter if you want Gay coming off the bench?

A bit of a hybrid answer here. I can see Pau starting and Gay coming off the bench on opening night. A smaller Mills/Green/Leonard/Gay/Aldridge unit makes sense against the Warriors, but Pau can hold his own against most of the rest of the league.

Either way, I can't imagine any realistic lineups that don't have at least one of Leonard/Gay/Aldridge on the floor. They are all volume scorers, so I think my point about Manu not having to be the do-everything player in the second unit stands. He'll still be the primary playmaker though, which is disappointing and somewhat scary.

ElNono
07-18-2017, 07:11 PM
Damn, my nigga TGY gonna have to work overtime again selling burritos and enchiladas to Spursfan during games... :lol

bklynspursfan
07-18-2017, 07:22 PM
Dude, you be talking to the wrong guy. This old boy got his persona and God Dammit, he's sticking to it.
Manu coming back is the best thing to ever happen to him. He's got nothing to do around here otherwise.

Haha.. truth. It's funny seeing people so upset at the silliest of things on here

BillMc
07-18-2017, 07:24 PM
So, I wonder what the over/under is on what they pay him this time?

GB20
07-18-2017, 07:34 PM
Damn, my nigga TGY gonna have to work overtime again selling burritos and enchiladas to Spursfan during games... :lol
and getting hit on the head from one of the manu's turnover.

duncan2k5
07-18-2017, 08:01 PM
A good game from our first SG off the bench shouldn't be a pleasant surprise... If any sixth man SG had the year Manu did, they might be ran out of town... Same with Parker... But our fans think they had a great year and are essential to the team... Fml

SpurOutofTownFan
07-18-2017, 08:09 PM
That team was seconds away from a title and had Tim Duncan, prime Parker, and Kawhi lmfao. If you think that = Lamarsha + washed Gay :lol....

I had to laugh at this

Down Under
07-18-2017, 08:11 PM
Don't mind what we've done this offseason. Gay will have to change his game a bit, but was probably worth the gamble. Laveurgne seems to have some finishing & passing skills & as long as he doesn't start, his defense shouldn't be too much of an issue. Not unhappy with Simmons walking, he would have been a wing player who can't shoot locked in for 3 seasons. The biggest gamble is assuming TP will be right for the playoffs and not signing another mid tier PG, although they were commanding close to 20 million.

TheGreatYacht
07-18-2017, 08:18 PM
I had to laugh at this
Parker outplayed Curry and every other PG that year :lol was in the MVP discussion. Something Manure will NEVER do

Clipper Nation
07-18-2017, 08:20 PM
Porker couldn't even outplay Mario Chalmers with the championship on the line :lol

SpurOutofTownFan
07-18-2017, 10:36 PM
Parker outplayed Curry and every other PG that year :lol was in the MVP discussion. Something Manure will NEVER do

Parker had a couple good games in that series, game 1 and game 5 and he was ok overall, but that's not prime Tony. Prime Tony ended in 2007.

BG_Spurs_Fan
07-19-2017, 01:50 AM
So, I wonder what the over/under is on what they pay him this time?

Depends on whether they intend to use the BAE, but it'd likely be whatever's left under the tax once Pau's deal is done.

Can't wait to read the usual retards claim how his signing has cost the Spurs other players :lol

KDKSpurs24
07-19-2017, 02:39 AM
Parker had a couple good games in that series, game 1 and game 5 and he was ok overall, but that's not prime Tony. Prime Tony ended in 2007.
Parker was great that year. He was on track to win MVP or finish top 3 until he got hurt the last few weeks before the season was over.

BatManu20
07-19-2017, 04:37 AM
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tbdog
07-19-2017, 05:36 AM
Spurs aren't serious about fielding a competitive team next year, and/or are grossly incompetent.

They did a fine job. We are still contenders if Warriors didn't exist. We can still win it all if the Warriors get an injury bug at the right time. And we did not hurt our 2018 free agency plan.

benefactor
07-19-2017, 06:19 AM
Bet you felt the same after our 2013 finals loss.
In the 9 years I've been here, I don't recall him ever feeling any different.

SpurOutofTownFan
07-19-2017, 06:39 AM
Parker was great that year. He was on track to win MVP or finish top 3 until he got hurt the last few weeks before the season was over.

That's not primer Parker. Prime Parker ended last decade. The same way 2014 wasn't prime Duncan, but he was great the entire year and, most importantly, during the playoffs were who was on a mission to take scalps.

140
07-19-2017, 07:07 AM
Damn, my nigga TGY gonna have to work overtime again selling burritos and enchiladas to Spursfan during games... :lol
:lol

140
07-19-2017, 07:08 AM
Porker couldn't even outplay Mario Chalmers with the championship on the line :lol

Phenomanul
07-19-2017, 04:19 PM
He produced the most memorable night I've ever watched in person. Welcome back, Manu. One more time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6VIz-bEtk4

I was at this game... his most memorable game for me though was his 33 PT, 12 REB, 7 AST game vs the (Shaq / Kobe / Malone / Payton) Lakers in 2004, while the Spurs were playing without Duncan and Parker. It was a 2 OT loss but the fact that we could compete against a squad of four HOF players was pretty remarkable and showed how competitive and capable Ginobili was as a first option.