Kawhi Leonard is clearly on his way to become the 2nd best spur ever at worst..

[apalisoc_9]

Imo, if he had a prime Ginobili and a Prime top 10 PG of all time in the Great Tony Parker..who knows what he can accomplish but he has to settle with Kyle Anderson and Derrick White.

I predict he would be the best spur ever.

What do you guys think?

[skulls138]

No one answer him.

[FkLA]

Tony Porker top 10 all-time PG? :lmao

Top 30 maybe.

[apalisoc_9]

Tony Porker top 10 all-time PG? :lmao

Top 30 maybe.

C'mon bro. Tony is clearly a top 10 PG of all time. Possibly top 7.

[sananspursfan21]

Tony Porker top 10 all-time PG? :lmao

Top 30 maybe.

List?

[nyspurguy]

C'mon bro. Tony is clearly a top 10 PG of all time. Possibly top 7.

It'll be hard for Tony Parker to crack the top 10 PG's of all time. Based on popularity and perception not many people outside of the Spurs fanbase would have him in top 10. Although based on point guard accomplishments, like championships, he's gotta be near the top. I'd say he's a unanimous top 20(what people think). He's top 7 on my list tho.

[TheGreatYacht]

Are you saying Kawhi doesn't have help bro? PATFO know what they're doing! Just look at those 5 rings they won with ZERO talent and just Pop's system

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2hgYAFUQAAOJJn.jpg:large
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Kawhi would be foolish to leave this great supporting cast, fit fans, clean creek, and healthy food to go be with his family in Los Angeles

[RD2191]

Are you saying Kawhi doesn't have help bro? PATFO know what they're doing! Just look at those 5 rings they won with ZERO talent and just Pop's system

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2hgYAFUQAAOJJn.jpg:large
http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/a92992fb-dd6a-477f-9dcb-7f41fb53acdd/cb068e0d-82c6-436d-b1a1-33017a63c177.jpg
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Kawhi would be foolish to leave this great supporting cast, fit fans, clean creek, and healthy food to go be with his family in Los Angeles

:lmao wow

[TheDoctor]

Are you saying Kawhi doesn't have help bro? PATFO know what they're doing! Just look at those 5 rings they won with ZERO talent and just Pop's system

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2hgYAFUQAAOJJn.jpg:large
http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/a92992fb-dd6a-477f-9dcb-7f41fb53acdd/cb068e0d-82c6-436d-b1a1-33017a63c177.jpg
https://d26v70zl50qz3k.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Manu-Old-900x505.jpg
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Kawhi would be foolish to leave this great supporting cast, fit fans, clean creek, and healthy food to go be with his family in Los Angeles

http://i.imgur.com/3h0VqqU.gif

[apalisoc_9]

Are you saying Kawhi doesn't have help bro? PATFO know what they're doing! Just look at those 5 rings they won with ZERO talent and just Pop's system

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2hgYAFUQAAOJJn.jpg:large
http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/a92992fb-dd6a-477f-9dcb-7f41fb53acdd/cb068e0d-82c6-436d-b1a1-33017a63c177.jpg
https://d26v70zl50qz3k.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Manu-Old-900x505.jpg
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http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/60/77/01/12841025/5/1024x1024.jpg
http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/62/23/13/13185756/13/1024x1024.jpg

Kawhi would be foolish to leave this great supporting cast, fit fans, clean creek, and healthy food to go be with his family in Los Angeles

Unpink this man already :lol

[duncan2k5]

that pic of kyle ALWAYS makes me cry with laughter:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao and no...parker isnt a top 10 pg...championships are the only reason he is even top 30...his prime was too short, and there was never a year he was the clear cut best PG...all of his accomplishments (he has none...so im talking about championships and 1 finals mvp that could have gone to anyone) pretty much came from being on a great team...he has disappeared too much in big playoff games to be top 10

[DMC]

that pic of kyle ALWAYS makes me cry with laughter:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao and no...parker isnt a top 10 pg...championships are the only reason he is even top 30...his prime was too short, and there was never a year he was the clear cut best PG...all of his accomplishments (he has none...so im talking about championships and 1 finals mvp that could have gone to anyone) pretty much came from being on a great team...he has disappeared too much in big playoff games to be top 10

Look, the homo brigade just marched through...

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[J_Paco]

Are you saying Kawhi doesn't have help bro? PATFO know what they're doing! Just look at those 5 rings they won with ZERO talent and just Pop's system

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2hgYAFUQAAOJJn.jpg:large
http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/a92992fb-dd6a-477f-9dcb-7f41fb53acdd/cb068e0d-82c6-436d-b1a1-33017a63c177.jpg
https://d26v70zl50qz3k.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Manu-Old-900x505.jpg
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Kawhi would be foolish to leave this great supporting cast, fit fans, clean creek, and healthy food to go be with his family in Los Angeles

Damn, just shitted on the entire team. Can't stop laughing....

[TimDunkem]

Are you saying Kawhi doesn't have help bro? PATFO know what they're doing! Just look at those 5 rings they won with ZERO talent and just Pop's system

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2hgYAFUQAAOJJn.jpg:large
http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/a92992fb-dd6a-477f-9dcb-7f41fb53acdd/cb068e0d-82c6-436d-b1a1-33017a63c177.jpg
https://d26v70zl50qz3k.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Manu-Old-900x505.jpg
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http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/62/23/13/13185756/13/1024x1024.jpg

Kawhi would be foolish to leave this great supporting cast, fit fans, clean creek, and healthy food to go be with his family in Los Angeles
Fuck...And that last bit about the fit fans and clean creek...:lmao :lmao :lmao

[phxspurfan]

It'll be hard for Tony Parker to crack the top 10 PG's of all time. Based on popularity and perception not many people outside of the Spurs fanbase would have him in top 10. Although based on point guard accomplishments, like championships, he's gotta be near the top. I'd say he's a unanimous top 20(what people think). He's top 7 on my list tho.


Top PGs of all time...

1. Stockton
2. Magic
3. Kidd
4. Nash
5. Steph Curry
6. Isaiah Thomas (the first one)
7. CP3
8. Glove
9. Pistol Pete
10. Cousy
11. TP
12. Tim Hardaway
13. Billups
14. Kenny Smith
15. KJ
16. Westbrook
17. Rose
18. Walt Frazier
19. Kyrie Irving
20. Mark Jackson
21. Jerry West
22. Mark Price
23. Lillard
24. Mo Cheeks
25. Nate Archibald
26. Lenny Wilkens
27. Earl Monroe
28. Steve Francis
29. John Wall
30. Rod Strickland

Other notables

Terry Porter
Kyle Lowry
Mike Conley
Mookie Blaylock
Marbury
Sam Cassell
Baron Davis
Doc Rivers
John Starks
Deron Williams
Andre Miller
Nick Van Exel
Derek Fisher
Mike Bibby
Dennis Johnson
Johnny Moore
Sidney Moncrief
Derek Harper
Spud Webb
Muggsy Bogues
Jason Williams (White Chocolate not the motorcycle wreck idiot)

[TheGreatYacht]

Players from this era don't count

http://nbalead.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/giphy.gif

[phxspurfan]

Players from this era don't count

http://nbalead.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/giphy.gif

They have more rings than guys like Nash

[ElNono]

Imo, if he had a prime Ginobili and a Prime top 10 PG of all time in the Great Tony Parker..who knows what he can accomplish but he has to settle with Kyle Anderson and Derrick White.

I predict he would be the best spur ever.

What do you guys think?

I like the new Manu hater persona, tbh... going to watch how it unfolds over the season, IMO

[phxspurfan]

Taking a closer look at where TP really stands:

Top PGs of all time...

1. Stockton
2. Magic
3. Kidd
4. Nash
5. Steph Curry
6. Isaiah Thomas (the first one)
7. CP3
8. Glove
9. Pistol Pete
10. Cousy

The top 10 of all time are the model PGs. They all averaged a ton of assists or were the cornerstones of franchises that won multiple championships, and never shrunk from the moment in the playoffs or big games, always leading their teams.

11. TP
12. Tim Hardaway
13. Billups
14. Kenny Smith
15. KJ
16. Westbrook
17. Rose
18. Walt Frazier
19. Kyrie Irving
20. Mark Jackson
21. Jerry West
22. Mark Price

The top 10-22 guys are also franchise cornerstones, but had flaws. Be it stacked teams (Kyrie, Billups, Kenny Smith for example) or no rings (Westbrook, Mark Jackson, Hardaway), or lacking some dimension of game (Price couldn't really defend at the highest level, neither could TP, Mark Jackson wasn't the best shooter in the world), or short stints at an MVP level (Rose, Walt). Great all-time PGs but no one in their right mind would pick for a career franchise PG, for example, a TP over a Jason Kidd. Or a TP over a Gary Payton, Steph Curry, Stockton or Isaiah Thomas.

[Mnky]

http://i.imgur.com/3h0VqqU.gif

[SAGirl]

The subject was allegedly Kawhi but it was really a hook for a Tony thread... and fathead and minifathead troll bait too. :lol

[Snaq O'Meal]

Taking a closer look at where TP really stands:

Top PGs of all time...

1. Stockton
2. Magic
3. Kidd
4. Nash
5. Steph Curry
6. Isaiah Thomas (the first one)
7. CP3
8. Glove
9. Pistol Pete
10. Cousy

The top 10 of all time are the model PGs. They all averaged a ton of assists or were the cornerstones of franchises that won multiple championships, and never shrunk from the moment in the playoffs or big games, always leading their teams.

11. TP
12. Tim Hardaway
13. Billups
14. Kenny Smith
15. KJ
16. Westbrook
17. Rose
18. Walt Frazier
19. Kyrie Irving
20. Mark Jackson
21. Jerry West
22. Mark Price

The top 10-22 guys are also franchise cornerstones, but had flaws. Be it stacked teams (Kyrie, Billups, Kenny Smith for example) or no rings (Westbrook, Mark Jackson, Hardaway), or lacking some dimension of game (Price couldn't really defend at the highest level, neither could TP, Mark Jackson wasn't the best shooter in the world), or short stints at an MVP level (Rose, Walt). Great all-time PGs but no one in their right mind would pick for a career franchise PG, for example, a TP over a Jason Kidd. Or a TP over a Gary Payton, Steph Curry, Stockton or Isaiah Thomas.

No Penny Hardaway on your list? Although 6'7", he was a point guard, and a damn fine one too.

[apalisoc_9]

Players from this era don't count

http://nbalead.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/giphy.gif

Is that basketball :lol

[Fireball]

at worst ... but also at best

[Snaq O'Meal]

Is that basketball :lol

Looked like bench scrubs from the Washington Generals.

[Spurtacular]

Imo, if he had a prime Ginobili and a Prime top 10 PG of all time in the Great Tony Parker..who knows what he can accomplish but he has to settle with Kyle Anderson and Derrick White.

I predict he would be the best spur ever.

What do you guys think?

Player fan's "subtle" anti-TD thread. :lmao

[140]

Are you saying Kawhi doesn't have help bro? PATFO know what they're doing! Just look at those 5 rings they won with ZERO talent and just Pop's system

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2hgYAFUQAAOJJn.jpg:large
http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/a92992fb-dd6a-477f-9dcb-7f41fb53acdd/cb068e0d-82c6-436d-b1a1-33017a63c177.jpg
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Kawhi would be foolish to leave this great supporting cast, fit fans, clean creek, and healthy food to go be with his family in Los Angeles


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[diego]

If kawhi leaves for LA like most of his biggest stans want, it don't matter how good he plays he won't be considered a top 4 Spur unless he plays more than half his career here

[cd98]

He's won his title here, so I'm betting his stays for at least the next big contract. He's not a desperate ring chaser because he already has one so why not cash in with the team that can pay you the most by far? That gives the Spurs time to upgrade the roster. Yes, the current roster doesn't look too exciting, but the Spurs will moneyball it to 55+ games. The real problem is that moneyball will get you a nice regular season, but it won't beat the Warriors.

[phxspurfan]

No Penny Hardaway on your list? Although 6'7", he was a point guard, and a damn fine one too.

Yeah but at that rate I might as well put Oscar Robertson and LeBron as PGs too since they handled the ball so much. All 3 would be top 20, 2 of the 3 over Parker (LeBron and the Big O definitely top 10 all time) with Penny around #20 bc of his short prime career

[Amuseddaysleeper]

I don't think Kawhi on that 2003 team wins the title, and I still say Duncan in his prime is the better player. However, as time goes on I'm legit beginning to worry if will even be lucky enough to have Kawhi in 2019 onward. At some point he's going to want to be on a title contender, and surrounding him with the players you mentioned along with the Spurs striking out in free agency isn't going to help.


I do agree that he as the potential to be worst case top 2 Spur all time.

[phxspurfan]

Players from this era don't count

http://nbalead.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/giphy.gif


XPFlKueB4KA
2:53 modern era version of that

[phxspurfan]

I don't think Kawhi on that 2003 team wins the title, and I still say Duncan in his prime is the better player. However, as time goes on I'm legit beginning to worry if will even be lucky enough to have Kawhi in 2019 onward. At some point he's going to want to be on a title contender, and surrounding him with the players you mentioned along with the Spurs striking out in free agency isn't going to help.


I do agree that he as the potential to be worst case top 2 Spur all time.

If he wins MVP he will be right there with DRob (DPOYs, MVP, ring). But DRob had better career stats and intangible value to SA in the community. Kawhi would have to stay his whole career to make up that gap.

[Phenomanul]

Imo, if he had a prime Ginobili and a Prime top 10 PG of all time in the Great Tony Parker..who knows what he can accomplish but he has to settle with Kyle Anderson and Derrick White.

I predict he would be the best spur ever.

What do you guys think?

We can play this game with DRob too... if he had a prime Ginobili and Parker... DRob would've rang before TD's arrival. Except you don't extend that same courtesy to him and prefer to knock him down. I love that Kawhi is the face of the Spurs franchise. He's a greater player than most people give him credit for - always adding to his game. Relentless. Assassin-like.

The problem with player fans like you is that you love Kawhi more than you love the Spurs... and you actually would prefer that he leave the franchise.

[cutewizard]

Taking a closer look at where TP really stands:

Top PGs of all time...

1. Stockton
2. Magic
3. Kidd
4. Nash
5. Steph Curry
6. Isaiah Thomas (the first one)
7. CP3
8. Glove
9. Pistol Pete
10. Cousy

The top 10 of all time are the model PGs. They all averaged a ton of assists or were the cornerstones of franchises that won multiple championships, and never shrunk from the moment in the playoffs or big games, always leading their teams.

11. TP
12. Tim Hardaway
13. Billups
14. Kenny Smith
15. KJ
16. Westbrook
17. Rose
18. Walt Frazier
19. Kyrie Irving
20. Mark Jackson
21. Jerry West
22. Mark Price

The top 10-22 guys are also franchise cornerstones, but had flaws. Be it stacked teams (Kyrie, Billups, Kenny Smith for example) or no rings (Westbrook, Mark Jackson, Hardaway), or lacking some dimension of game (Price couldn't really defend at the highest level, neither could TP, Mark Jackson wasn't the best shooter in the world), or short stints at an MVP level (Rose, Walt). Great all-time PGs but no one in their right mind would pick for a career franchise PG, for example, a TP over a Jason Kidd. Or a TP over a Gary Payton, Steph Curry, Stockton or Isaiah Thomas.


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Oscar Robertson says "hi"

[james evans]

C'mon bro. Tony is clearly a top 10 PG of all time. Possibly top 7.
NO!!

Magic, Stockton, Zeke, Big O, Cousy, Kidd, Fraizer, Payton are without a doubt, not even up for discussion better. Then you have guys like Paul and Nash that many of you will debate. Yeah, go ahead and bring up rings. Because if you do, I've never seen anyone include Sam Jones in their top 10 or top 15 all time and he has 10 rings.

[james evans]

Taking a closer look at where TP really stands:

Top PGs of all time...

1. Stockton
2. Magic
3. Kidd
4. Nash
5. Steph Curry
6. Isaiah Thomas (the first one)
7. CP3
8. Glove
9. Pistol Pete
10. Cousy

The top 10 of all time are the model PGs. They all averaged a ton of assists or were the cornerstones of franchises that won multiple championships, and never shrunk from the moment in the playoffs or big games, always leading their teams.

11. TP
12. Tim Hardaway
13. Billups
14. Kenny Smith
15. KJ
16. Westbrook
17. Rose
18. Walt Frazier
19. Kyrie Irving
20. Mark Jackson
21. Jerry West
22. Mark Price

The top 10-22 guys are also franchise cornerstones, but had flaws. Be it stacked teams (Kyrie, Billups, Kenny Smith for example) or no rings (Westbrook, Mark Jackson, Hardaway), or lacking some dimension of game (Price couldn't really defend at the highest level, neither could TP, Mark Jackson wasn't the best shooter in the world), or short stints at an MVP level (Rose, Walt). Great all-time PGs but no one in their right mind would pick for a career franchise PG, for example, a TP over a Jason Kidd. Or a TP over a Gary Payton, Steph Curry, Stockton or Isaiah Thomas.
fraizer is better than pistol pete.

[SASdynasty!]

Tony Porker top 10 all-time PG? :lmao

Top 30 maybe.
Lol, the top playoff scoring PG of all time and one of only 5 PGs to win FMVP. Also the winningest NBA player of all time (min 1000 games).

[SASdynasty!]

NO!!

Magic, Stockton, Zeke, Big O, Cousy, Kidd, Fraizer, Payton are without a doubt, not even up for discussion better. Then you have guys like Paul and Nash that many of you will debate. Yeah, go ahead and bring up rings. Because if you do, I've never seen anyone include Sam Jones in their top 10 or top 15 all time and he has 10 rings.
The only guys on that list that Parker didn't send home come playoff time were the guys that didn't play in his era.

[apalisoc_9]

Tony is clearly a top 10 PG of all time.

Man, never realized he was this unappreaciated at this board and I say this as the biggest Parker Antagonost.

[SASdynasty!]

Taking a closer look at where TP really stands:

Top PGs of all time...

1. Stockton
2. Magic
3. Kidd
4. Nash
5. Steph Curry
6. Isaiah Thomas (the first one)
7. CP3
8. Glove
9. Pistol Pete
10. Cousy

The top 10 of all time are the model PGs. They all averaged a ton of assists or were the cornerstones of franchises that won multiple championships, and never shrunk from the moment in the playoffs or big games, always leading their teams.

11. TP
12. Tim Hardaway
13. Billups
14. Kenny Smith
15. KJ
16. Westbrook
17. Rose
18. Walt Frazier
19. Kyrie Irving
20. Mark Jackson
21. Jerry West
22. Mark Price

The top 10-22 guys are also franchise cornerstones, but had flaws. Be it stacked teams (Kyrie, Billups, Kenny Smith for example) or no rings (Westbrook, Mark Jackson, Hardaway), or lacking some dimension of game (Price couldn't really defend at the highest level, neither could TP, Mark Jackson wasn't the best shooter in the world), or short stints at an MVP level (Rose, Walt). Great all-time PGs but no one in their right mind would pick for a career franchise PG, for example, a TP over a Jason Kidd. Or a TP over a Gary Payton, Steph Curry, Stockton or Isaiah Thomas.
Ok, I don't even know where to start with this.

First, you say the guys on the top 10 list were all cornerstones of franchises that won multiple championships? What?! Let's put that to the test:

1. Stockton - Never won a single championship.
3. Kidd - Won ONE championship as a role player.
4. Nash - Never even made it to the Finals!
7. CP3 - Never even made the Conference Finals!
8. Glove - Won one championship as a role player.
9. Pistol Pete - Never won a championship.

When you combine over half of your top-10 list, you literally get 2 role-player titles!

[cutewizard]

Most lists are subjective................

[james evans]

The only guys on that list that Parker didn't send home come playoff time were the guys that didn't play in his era.
but they beat us too haha. nash in 2010, Paul in 2015

[james evans]

Ok, I don't even know where to start with this.

First, you say the guys on the top 10 list were all cornerstones of franchises that won multiple championships? What?! Let's put that to the test:

1. Stockton - Never won a single championship.
3. Kidd - Won ONE championship as a role player.
4. Nash - Never even made it to the Finals!
7. CP3 - Never even made the Conference Finals!
8. Glove - Won one championship as a role player.
9. Pistol Pete - Never won a championship.

When you combine over half of your top-10 list, you literally get 2 role-player titles!
Acturally, Parker was a role player in 2007. It's just that we had the mismatch with Cleveland's backcoourt

[rastaspur]

Players from this era don't count

http://nbalead.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/giphy.gif

:lol

He broke that guys ankle. Healthcare and the treatment of sports injuries has greatly advanced over the decades. That guy probably died from complications.

The 50's/60's spin move was literally deadly and this video is confirmation.

[FkLA]

Lol, the top playoff scoring PG of all time and one of only 5 PGs to win FMVP. Also the winningest NBA player of all time (min 1000 games).

You can thank the great Timothy Duncan, the great Emmanuel Ginobili, and PopaGOAT for all of that.

[Spurtacular]

Re: Kawhi second best Spur all-time.....Imma faggot

You've made this thread about ten times already, faggot.

[Horse]

Are you saying Kawhi doesn't have help bro? PATFO know what they're doing! Just look at those 5 rings they won with ZERO talent and just Pop's system

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2hgYAFUQAAOJJn.jpg:large
http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/a92992fb-dd6a-477f-9dcb-7f41fb53acdd/cb068e0d-82c6-436d-b1a1-33017a63c177.jpg
https://d26v70zl50qz3k.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Manu-Old-900x505.jpg
http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/178322-Broken-Microwave-Troubles.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgSg_hNWIAAf5ZY.jpg
http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/60/77/01/12841025/5/1024x1024.jpg
http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/62/23/13/13185756/13/1024x1024.jpg

Kawhi would be foolish to leave this great supporting cast, fit fans, clean creek, and healthy food to go be with his family in Los Angeles

Well maybe just maybe Kawhi isn't a gutless fucking pussy like LeBron and Durant and he want to build a team around him and compete.

[FkLA]

GS can't win forever even if they keep that team intact. They might win 2 or 3 in a row first but they'll get knocked out eventually. If Kawhichael wins an MVP and the Spurs are the ones to knock them out while he has a monster series it would do so much for his legacy. You'd have to start putting him in the Top 20 all-time discussion, tbh.

[Seventyniner]

I don't think Kawhi on that 2003 team wins the title, and I still say Duncan in his prime is the better player. However, as time goes on I'm legit beginning to worry if will even be lucky enough to have Kawhi in 2019 onward. At some point he's going to want to be on a title contender, and surrounding him with the players you mentioned along with the Spurs striking out in free agency isn't going to help.

The Spurs have been a top 4 team in the league in every year of Kawhi's career except 2014-2015. Why would he not trust PATFO to build a contender around him in the future?

[tholdren]

These guys are good!
You cant descredit ability during era played. If anyone defended anyone today there would be 3 good players in the league. Its disgusting.

[apalisoc_9]

You cant descredit ability during era played. If anyone defended anyone today there would be 3 good players in the league. Its disgusting.

You just say that cause most players in the 60s and 70s are unathletic whites...Stop being racist bro and learn to respect other skin colour

[tholdren]

You just say that cause most players in the 60s and 70s are unathletic whites...Stop being racist bro and learn to respect other skin colour

Then lebron isnt in the top 5 because of the shitty quality of the game today. I

[DAF86]

Really hope he becomes the best Spur of all-time.

[apalisoc_9]

Then lebron isnt in the top 5 because of the shitty quality of the game today. I

You just say that because todays league is dominated by blacks..

Man you are sp racist. Why are posters like you allowed to post?

[duncan2k5]

We can play this game with DRob too... if he had a prime Ginobili and Parker... DRob would've rang before TD's arrival. Except you don't extend that same courtesy to him and prefer to knock him down. I love that Kawhi is the face of the Spurs franchise. He's a greater player than most people give him credit for - always adding to his game. Relentless. Assassin-like.

The problem with player fans like you is that you love Kawhi more than you love the Spurs... and you actually would prefer that he leave the franchise.

But Duncan DIDN'T have a prime Dino and Parker in 2003 and 2005

[Phenomanul]

But Duncan DIDN'T have a prime Dino and Parker in 2003 and 2005

I hate to break it to you, but D-Rob even in 2003 was better than any of the big men Duncan played with since. Which other big man next to Duncan ever pulled down 17 rebounds in a series clinching playoff win?

Also, Manu was a stud in 2005. He was great against the Nuggets, exceptional against the Sonics, was a wrecking ball against the Suns and was great against the Pistons (up to the point when Tayshaun Prince kneed him in the thigh - but came back strong for games 5, 6, and 7).

How quickly people forget.

Besides this isn't about Duncan... apalisoc_9 is attempting to give more prominence to Kawhi by using an argument which he himself has used in the past to discredit David Robinson. I'm simply calling him out on the inconsistency - on his cherry-picked logic.

Kawhi is great and perhaps can be legitimately better player than David Robinson was BUT he isn't there yet. Robinson is still top-5 all time player in career PER, bad back and all - and has one of the best career NET ratings (ORTG - DRTG), again spanning his entire career including the years he played with a herniated disc in his spinal column.

[Sec24Row7]

But Duncan DIDN'T have a prime Dino and Parker in 2003 and 2005


Parker was 1 dimensional in 2003.

In 2004 the lakers proved it to him after they started sagging off of him and denying him the paint. His lack of a jumpshot that series is one of the reasons we lost.

His hard work on that weakness made him a MUCH better player from that series on.

[RLT]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2hgYAFUQAAOJJn.jpg:large



Now that's the face of a dude hating his life! He's going to be so grateful to play here. lol