Report: Kyrie Irving Asked Cavs to Trade Him

[BatManu20]

This is something.


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[BatManu20]

May have been salty after hearing his name in trade rumors this offseason. Who knows. Lebron gone if Kyrie leaves.

[Hoops Czar]

I Don't know why this info deserves it's own thread.

[BatManu20]

I Don't know why this info deserves it's own thread.

Bc it's the slowest point of the offseason tbh. And this directly effects Lebron's decision next summer.

[SpursforSix]

LMA and Murray for Irving. And Parker and Fathead too.

[SAGirl]

May have been salty after hearing his name in trade rumors this offseason. Who knows. Lebron gone if Kyrie leaves.
Lebron is maybe going to be gone anyways, Kyrie knows it and he wants out b4 the Cavs become the old Cavs again.

[BatManu20]

LMA and Murray for Irving. And Parker and Fathead too.

Cavs wouldn't deal him to us. But a team like the Celtics, who have tons of ammo and likely would rather not pay IT a max deal next summer, could be a target.

[Hoops Czar]

Bc it's the slowest point of the offseason tbh. And this directly effects Lebron's decision next summer.
He's leaving because of LeBron and I think LeBron was leaving regardless. The Spurs Don't have the assets to trade for him unless a third team enters the fray.

[BatManu20]

Lebron is maybe going to be gone anyways, Kyrie knows it and he wants out b4 the Cavs become the old Cavs again.

I think Lebron probably is gone. Dubs will defeat the Cavs again next season and Lebron will head West. And the Cavs franchise will return to a meddling, steaming pile of shit again.

[RiverwalkParade]

Time to blow up the team in Cleveland.

SA gets Love and Kyrie
Lakers get Lebron and Murray
Cavs get Lopez, Green, LMA, Kyle Anderson, and Lonzo

Cavs clear a ton of cap after this season and have a young piece to build around in Lonzo.

[raybies]

Murray is a Rich Paul guy. If Lebron wants him, there's a chance. I just think Murrays play in SL nuked his value. Cleveland was also reportedly interested in Danny Green. So there's that; some pieces to the puzzle.

Would love to have Kyrie but would take one of LBJ's man crushes to make it happen.

[BatManu20]

If only he could be a Spur, tbh.

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[coachmac87]

May have been salty after hearing his name in trade rumors this offseason. Who knows. Lebron gone if Kyrie leaves.

I think LeBron is already gone and Kyrie is just confirming that

[james evans]

If the cavs wanted just Ginobli and Parker for Irving, Popovich and Buford wouldnt do it.

[raybies]

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please Lebron, do us a solid

[sananspursfan21]

Do it RC!

[Chinook]

He'd be a great compliment to Kawhi. Wonder if Murray has value to Lebron.

[BatManu20]

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[coachmac87]

This is Kyrie falling on the sword so the LeBron can jump ship and not be the bad guy....

[RiverwalkParade]

This is Kyrie falling on the sword so the LeBron can jump ship and not be the bad guy....

This

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[RiverwalkParade]

Report was that Kyrie wants the spotlight. Not going to work here unfortunately. Got my hopes up. Probably wants to be traded to some place like Denver

[lebomb]

Kyrie to the Spurs, LMA and Murray to Cleveland, Lebron to LA, Love to Boston, I Thomas to LA, Lonzo to the Spurs, Tristan Thompson to Boston, Ingram to the Spurs, Kuzma to Cleveland, Marcus Smart to LA.

Bam!!!!! Get it done!!! :claw

[raybies]

I'd trade Murray, Green and a 1st, also fathead as a sweetener .

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

LMA and Murray for Irving. And Parker and Fathead too.
Fat head for free tbh

[BatManu20]

WHAT.


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[Spurs9]

:lol ST always thinking we can land someone like Kyrie trying to throw Anderson into a deal

[BatManu20]

Get on the goddamn phone right now RC!!

[raybies]

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[marinoman]

Patty mills and LMA with a 1st rounder for kyrie. It'll never happen tho

[Spurs9]

WHAT.


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:wow :wow :wow :wow :wow :wow

[BatManu20]

He'd be a great compliment to Kawhi. Wonder if Murray has value to Lebron.

Read above.

[raybies]

Called it. Legit just got a boner. Cue the it's happening gif

[noles1983]

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Mannnnnnnnn and now my hopes are up. Fuck. Send LMA, Green, Fathead, Murray, Gasol. Fucking all of them.

[Ron Swanson]

Shit, RC. You have to at least make the call!

[BatManu20]

Spurs should literally be doing everything in their power short of trading Kawhi in order to make this happen..

I don't care if you have to trade Tony and his entire family into sex slavery... you do it.

[noles1983]

Do it RC, you dumb fucking alcoholic. Make it happen!
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[Ron Swanson]

Spurs should literally be doing everything in their power short of trading Kawhi in order to make this happen..

Goddamn right

[SpursforSix]

Shit, RC. You have to at least make the call!

:pop: he won't be coherent...I mean available until Sunday afternoon.

[Spurs9]

Wasn't even expecting this but https://media.giphy.com/media/rl0FOxdz7CcxO/giphy.gif

[raybies]

This is all a charade by Lebron and Irving to join forces with Kawhi and become the San Antonio cavaliers

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Do it pop you old fucking asshole!

[sexinthatsx]

I Don't know why this info deserves it's own thread.

Got caught with your foot in your mouth lol

[DAF86]

Throw the kitchen sink at him: LA, Danny, Mills, Murray, White, draft picks and cash. Anything to make it happen.

He is just what we need and he's Kawhi's age. We would be set for the next decade.

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck if the Spurs can flip Softridge into Irving.

[baseline bum]

Got caught with your foot in your mouth lol

:lol

[JR3]

Holy Cow..... if this happens....

[Spurs9]

Throw the kitchen sink at him: LA, Danny, Mills, Murray, White, draft picks and cash. Anything to make it happen.

He is just what we need and he's Kawhi's age. We would be set for the next decade.

Yes everything tbh

[cd98]

We don't have the assets to get Kyrie. They would want something that Boston could give them. They are looking for future assets because they know Lebron is gone. My guess is that they won't trade him this year anyway. As long as they have Lebron, they know he'll fall in line this year, and next year, they'll look to trade him and get young assets and draft picks.

[marinoman]

Let the theories begin, the reason Spurs took Murray out of SL is to work on a trade for him to Cleveland.
i just wish billups was the cavs gm, he loves Murray

[spurraider21]

He'd be a great compliment to Kawhi. Wonder if Murray has value to Lebron.


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[Spur|n|Austin]

:lol fuck that would be beautiful

[Ron Swanson]

It more than likely doesn't happen but it won't stop me from refreshing the fuck out of this thread over the weekend.

[Laughing Gravy]

All you fuckers pining for him after trashing my thread that he's my #1 guy for the Spurs to add lol.

[BatManu20]

Boner: ENGAGED.


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[DAF86]

Fuck this shit. Now I'm all excited about a shit that probably will never happen. :lol

[DesignatedT]

Get it done. Whatever it takes.

[coachmac87]

Bonner: Engaged.


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Knicks, Heat, Wolves, Spurs were preferred destinations

[SpursFan86]

How many pages can we get on this? :lol

[spurraider21]

Get it done. Whatever it takes.



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[BatManu20]

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[Ron Swanson]

Bonner: Engaged.


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I would drive down to SA, pick up LMA, and drop him off at the airport.

[DAF86]

Thread title should be edited to "Irving eyes Spurs as top trade destinations" or something like that, tbh.

[spurraider21]

why would he want to go to the knicks :lol

[Vic Petro]

Over/under for pages on this thread?

[noles1983]

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We are the only real challengers to GS with adding Kyrie. Twolves look decent on paper, no idea how that team will develop. If he wants to win its simple.

[DAF86]

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Irving for Melo and a 1st round pick coming.

[Spurs9]

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:lol Bat Manu made the same trade :lmao except I got rid of Anderson

[BatManu20]

Thread title should be edited to "Irving eyes Spurs as top trade destinations" or something like that, tbh.

I created the thread before Woj mentioned the Spurs, or else I would've been all over it tbh.

[DAF86]

why would he want to go to the knicks :lol

To be the man on a big market?

[Chinook]

My guess is that SA is popular so that Kyrie would have Kawhi to help shut down Lebron.

[loveforthegame]

Of course I'll get my hopes up only to crash and burn.

[NASpurs]

Fuck I missed this thread when I posted in the offseason thread, either way, my same reaction :wow


Of course I'll get my hopes up only to crash and burn.

:lol truer words have never been spoken

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Yeah, he's headed to New York.

[DAF86]

I created the thread before Woj mentioned the Spurs, or else I would've been all over it tbh.

I know, maybe timvp or Slomo can do you a solid.

[TD 21]

I don't get the logic: He supposedly wants out of Cavaliers because an aging and potentially departing in a year James, is the focal point, but he's interested in Spurs, who have a younger focal point and who his coming to would ensure said focal point remains firmly entrenched?

Even if he's one of these idiots who doesn't believe Leonard is as good as he is and he thinks he's better, he has to know that Leonard has finished 2nd and 3rd respectively in MVP voting in consecutive seasons and made back to back All-NBA 1st teams.

Then there's the matter of Spurs lack of assets. They don't have the pieces you need to have a chance at a player of his caliber or the means to acquire those pieces through other avenues.

[BatManu20]

I don't get the logic: He supposedly wants out of Cavaliers because an aging and potentially departing in a year James, is the focal point, but he's interested in Spurs, who have a younger focal point and who his coming to would ensure said focal point remains firmly entrenched?

Even if some of these idiots don't believe Leonard is as good as he is and he thinks he's better, he has to know that Leonard has made back to back All-NBA 1st teams and finished 2nd and 3rd respectively, in MVP voting in consecutive seasons.

Then there's the matter of Spurs lack of assets. They don't have the pieces you need to have a chance at a player of his caliber or the means to acquire those pieces through other avenues.

I think he knows Lebron is gone next summer... so he's trying to jump ship before shit hits the fan.

[raybies]

Don't know why Woj singled us out to start.... to torture us... anyways if we somehow won the off-season. Geeked

[DAF86]

It doesn't matter who it takes. Everybody but Kawhi should be fair game. It doesn't matter if you gut the team. Kawhi and Irving are both 25, we would be set for the next decade. You worry about filling the spots around them later.

[BatManu20]

:lol Bat Manu made the same trade :lmao except I got rid of Anderson

:lol

[NASpurs]

I'm fapping so hard, let's do it Drunkford.

[DPG21920]

I like Kyrie's age. SA, if trading LMA for Kyrie, would be shifting their issue from PG to PF and no real means to address the big issue. SA would be so screwed from a big man perspective.

I'd still do it and hope that FA next year can address that issue, but man. Pau, Joff & ???

Have to assume Murray would be in the deal as a young prospect with ties to Lebron - just hoping they don't ask for Danny Green too.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Fuck this shit. Now I'm all excited about a shit that probably will never happen. :lol

:lol same damnit

[Vic Petro]

I don't get the logic: He supposedly wants out of Cavaliers because an aging and potentially departing in a year James, is the focal point, but he's interested in Spurs, who have a younger focal point and who his coming to would ensure said focal point remains firmly entrenched?

Even if he's one of these idiots who doesn't believe Leonard is as good as he is and he thinks he's better, he has to know that Leonard has finished 2nd and 3rd respectively in MVP voting in consecutive seasons and made back to back All-NBA 1st teams.

Then there's the matter of Spurs lack of assets. They don't have the pieces you need to have a chance at a player of his caliber or the means to acquire those pieces through other avenues.

The focal point thing is just a cover imo. I think Kyrie is sick of Lebron controlling everything and doesn't want to be on a sinking Cleveland ship when Lebron leaves next year.

[DPG21920]

Would be sweet if it were Mills+Danny+Murray though.

[BatManu20]

It doesn't matter who it takes. Everybody but Kawhi should be fair game. It doesn't matter if you gut the team. Kawhi and Irving are both 25, we would be set for the next decade. You worry about filling the spots around them later.

Kawhi turned 26 a couple weeks ago, but I agree with everything you said. You make it happen and worry about filling in the rest later.

[cd98]

Yeah, he's headed to New York.

Probably not. NY would want to trade them Melo, and while LeBron would probably be happy, the Cavs would get Lebron leaving next year and Melo shortly thereafter and no young assets. And Melo won't be happy with Cavs if Lebron isn't there.

[Chris]

Get on the goddamn phone right now RC!!

[NameLess Scrub]

This info is weird. He has a freebie to the Finals every year.

Anyway, Spurs can't put together assets for him, and if they do they probably blow enough depth in the process.

Maybe Cavs now get it and will let the Spurs form a Kawhi/Lebron/Kyrie megateam so the NBA ends in like May.

[cd98]

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Us and NY need a PG. But the assets we both have are pretty lame.

[TD 21]

I think he knows Lebron is gone next summer... so he's trying to jump ship before shit hits the fan.

I get that, but that doesn't answer my question. If it's really about being the focal point, this would be one of the teams he definitely wouldn't be.


The focal point thing is just a cover imo. I think Kyrie is sick of Lebron controlling everything and doesn't want to be on a sinking Cleveland ship when Lebron leaves next year.

Maybe, but he could take another shot with James and then pull this in a year . . . and I suspect that's how this plays out, especially considering the 4 teams supposedly on his list. Only the Heat could maybe pull this off, with something like Dragic, Winslow, Adebayo.


It all comes down to Murray, a Rich Paul guy, who just shit his diapers in summer league. If Lebron wants him and Danny, we got a shot. Add in a first and it's a competitive offer.

:lmao No, it isn't. Murray hasn't even proven to be a sure fire NBA player yet, let alone someone who can help James contend next season. That's far and away the number one priority for James; not some agent connection.

[BatManu20]

If he does actually get traded, hope the Celtics don't swoop in and steal him.. they have a ton of draft picks over the next 3 years and could dangle IT.

[noles1983]

This info is weird. He has a freebie to the Finals every year.

Anyway, Spurs can't put together assets for him, and if they do they probably blow enough depth in the process.

Maybe Cavs now get it and will let the Spurs form a Kawhi/Lebron/Kyrie megateam so the NBA ends in like May.

Our depth is shitty D league talent, who cares.

[MannyIsGod]

What really works in the Spurs favor here is that now you have Irving killing his trade value much int he way that LMA did a month ago. That really levels the playing field with regard to getting pennies on the dollar back for LMA. However, it also works against the Spurs that they probably dont' have enough to match a Melo deal if the Knicks want to go in that direction.

I still think its a low probability event, but the Spurs should do everything they can to get a young duo of Irving and Leonard as they both go into their prime years. That's the kind of duo you build championships around.

[raybies]

It all comes down to Murray, a Rich Paul guy, who just shit his diapers in summer league. If Lebron wants him and Danny, we got a shot. Add in a first and it's a competitive offer.

[Spur|n|Austin]

I have a feeling if he goes anywhere it'll be NY.

[Quiet Strength]

I dont want to get my hopes up but damn spurs make it happen

[cd98]

That said, will Kawhi have fun watching Kyrie go one on five for 50% of the possessions?

[DAF86]

I like Kyrie's age. SA, if trading LMA for Kyrie, would be shifting their issue from PG to PF and no real means to address the big issue. SA would be so screwed from a big man perspective.

I'd still do it and hope that FA next year can address that issue, but man. Pau, Joff & ???

Have to assume Murray would be in the deal as a young prospect with ties to Lebron - just hoping they don't ask for Danny Green too.

Aldridge isn't going to play PF this upcoming season anyway.

[MannyIsGod]

I like Kyrie's age. SA, if trading LMA for Kyrie, would be shifting their issue from PG to PF and no real means to address the big issue. SA would be so screwed from a big man perspective.

I'd still do it and hope that FA next year can address that issue, but man. Pau, Joff & ???

Have to assume Murray would be in the deal as a young prospect with ties to Lebron - just hoping they don't ask for Danny Green too.

We'd be fucked this year but I'd still do it in a heartbeat.

[coachmac87]

I get that, but that doesn't answer my question. If it's really about being the focal point, this would be one of the teams he definitely wouldn't be.

Or that's just a story or excuse for him to leave and not be the bad guy...

Or him falling on the sword for LeBron..

[Spurs9]

I have a feeling if he goes anywhere it'll be NY.

If he wants to win, why would he honestly go to NY?

[Ron Swanson]

That said, will Kawhi have fun watching Kyrie go one on five for 50% of the possessions?

I think he'd be somewhat relieved he wouldn't have to do it 75% of the time.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

:pop: Kyrie is a great player, but him coming here wouldn't be fair to Tony"

[BatManu20]

I get that, but that doesn't answer my question. If it's really about being the focal point, this would be one of the teams he definitely wouldn't be.



Maybe, but he could take another shot with James and then pull this in a year . . . and I suspect that's how this plays out, especially considering the 4 teams supposedly on his list. Only the Heat could maybe pull this off, with something like Dragic, Winslow, Adebayo.

I think "being the focal point" is a beard tbh. He just wants out of CLE.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm shocked that people in this thread think thet the Spurs and Knicks don't have the right assets to make deals here. Of course they do.

[BatManu20]

:pop: Kyrie is a great player, but him coming here wouldn't be fair to Tony"

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

Quite frankly, if the Spurs are able to get Irving I'm ok with pretty much any trade they make even if it sends the team into a rebuild mode for a year or two. Outside of Leonard I would not consider anyone untradable on this team (although I don't think Pop will ever move Tony).

[noles1983]

What really works in the Spurs favor here is that now you have Irving killing his trade value much int he way that LMA did a month ago. That really levels the playing field with regard to getting pennies on the dollar back for LMA. However, it also works against the Spurs that they probably dont' have enough to match a Melo deal if the Knicks want to go in that direction.

I still think its a low probability event, but the Spurs should do everything they can to get a young duo of Irving and Leonard as they both go into their prime years. That's the kind of duo you build championships around.

Carmelo contract is way worse than Aldridge. Why would Cleveland want to lose Irving, probably LeBron and be on the hook for paying Melo $26 million for the next few years?

[vy65]

Didn't Minnesota just ink Teague to a deal?

[cjw]

I would drive down to SA, pick up LMA, and drop him off at the airport.

F that. I think we can cobble up enough money panhandling in front of Whataburger and charter a private jet for Kyrie and LMA.

[cd98]

What really works in the Spurs favor here is that now you have Irving killing his trade value much int he way that LMA did a month ago. That really levels the playing field with regard to getting pennies on the dollar back for LMA. However, it also works against the Spurs that they probably dont' have enough to match a Melo deal if the Knicks want to go in that direction.

I still think its a low probability event, but the Spurs should do everything they can to get a young duo of Irving and Leonard as they both go into their prime years. That's the kind of duo you build championships around.

Yes, but what hurts us is LMA's performance against GSW versus Kyrie's performance. I mean, Kyrie didn't destroy, but he didn't choke like LMA.

[E20]

Damn if we get Kyrie then we can get lebron then we can get russ, then we can get KD, then we can get steph, then we can sign lavar to a mega max contract of 10 years 1 billion dollars and give manu a lifetime contract of the US's GDP.

[Hoops Czar]

Aldridge isn't going to play PF this upcoming season anyway.
Getting rid of LMA would mean zero rim protection. I wonder if anyone else noticed how ridiculously bad Cleveland's defense was last year that even Dejounte Murray dominated them last year.

[noles1983]

Getting rid of LMA would mean zero rim protection. I wonder if anyone else noticed how ridiculous Cleveland's defense was last year that even Dejounte Murray dominated them last year.

Deal with it this year, next year lots of $$$ to spend.

[Big Empty]

Kyrie 25 kawhi 26, damn we could build around them for years! Pipe dream....

[NASpurs]

Someone wake up RC! It's still 4 PM in the afternoon.

[mo7888]

Would be sweet if it were Mills+Danny+Murray though.

That's not a bad haul for Cleveland. I realize we would be killing them with thst deal but, if it's one of the 4 teams listed it's hard to see a better offer coming that lets Cleveland compete this year and gives cap flexibility if LeBron walks next summer.

[DPG21920]

SA has to be a front runner with LMA and Murray. MIA doesn't have that much talent or picks. NY has no talent, but Melo is a close friend.

MIN has a lot of stuff but all their FA cant be traded for a while so that has to hamper them some.

[DAF86]

Getting rid of LMA would mean zero rim protection. I wonder if anyone else noticed how ridiculously bad Cleveland's defense was last year that even Dejounte Murray dominated them last year.

Who the fuck cares? :lol

[baseline bum]

I like Kyrie's age. SA, if trading LMA for Kyrie, would be shifting their issue from PG to PF and no real means to address the big issue. SA would be so screwed from a big man perspective.

I'd still do it and hope that FA next year can address that issue, but man. Pau, Joff & ???

Have to assume Murray would be in the deal as a young prospect with ties to Lebron - just hoping they don't ask for Danny Green too.

I'd rather run with Gay at the starting PF than Mills at the starting PG.

[MannyIsGod]

Yes, but what hurts us is LMA's performance against GSW versus Kyrie's performance. I mean, Kyrie didn't destroy, but he didn't choke like LMA.

The vast majority of trades in the NBA aren't about equal basketball skill. There's no situation where Cleveland gets back equal value.

[NASpurs]

Crash and burn, the ride was fun.

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[DPG21920]

I don't think Mills can be traded for a while either though.

[mo7888]

If he does actually get traded, hope the Celtics don't swoop in and steal him.. they have a ton of draft picks over the next 3 years and could dangle IT.

If they trade him to Boston right now, in that same conferencen LeBron will be asking for a trade this summer

[Chillen]

You trade Parker, Anderson for him. Cavs get something back to keep LeBron because they are certainly not trading him. Not a great deal for the Cavs but if Irving wants out better than nothing. Spurs keep LMA have a deeper team to compete with Warriors. I don't think Cavs accept that but it's worth a shot, Parker isn't suiting up till January.

[MannyIsGod]

SA has to be a front runner with LMA and Murray. MIA doesn't have that much talent or picks. NY has no talent, but Melo is a close friend.

MIN has a lot of stuff but all their FA cant be traded for a while so that has to hamper them some.

You're the only one seeing this the way I see it. I think NY and the Spurs are the EARLY possibilities but I think they might end up standing pat. Maybe not though, since I really think this is based on Kyrie knowing Lebron is going to GTFO next year.

[DPG21920]

Crash and burn, the ride was fun.

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Nah - very few players have no trade clauses and you always see this. Teams trading for a player that doesn't want to be there is bad news. If that were the case CLE would just keep Kyrie since he's under contract.

It's the same thing. He would just march in and ask for a trade and then the team is stuck and they gave up assets for him.

[NASpurs]

We need a PG for God's sake!!

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[MannyIsGod]

Crash and burn, the ride was fun.

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This is wrong though. A team isn't going to trade for a player who doesn't want to be there.

[cd98]

The vast majority of trades in the NBA aren't about equal basketball skill. There's no situation where Cleveland gets back equal value.

Draft picks. Younger talent that an develop. I mean, to get Kevin Love, they gave up a number one pick. That was what T-Wolves required. If I was Cavs, I'd want a team w/ a low draft pick. Plus, Kyrie has no leverage. They can trade him to anyone.

[vy65]

Crash and burn, the ride was fun.

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Valid point, and CLE holds the ultimate King's X power, but you also gotta wonder what incentive they have in keeping a player who doesn't want to be there or for a team not on his list trading for a player who doesn't want to be there either?

[baseline bum]

Who the fuck cares? :lol

Yeah man, I mean fuck next season. This is about building for the next five to eight seasons. Cleveland can have anything they want outside of Kawhi.

[Spur|n|Austin]

If he wants to win, why would he honestly go to NY?

Didnt read anything about him wanting to win, read he wants a bigger role

[DPG21920]

You're the only one seeing this the way I see it. I think NY and the Spurs are the EARLY possibilities but I think they might end up standing pat. Maybe not though, since I really think this is based on Kyrie knowing Lebron is going to GTFO next year.

Ya - who knows. Trading stars and for stars is rarely swift and easy. Hell we heard Paul George and Butler rumors for years before they actually did something.

The only reason I think this is legit and may be resolved soon is that Lebron may very well be leaving. You better trade Kyrie now and get something solid to at least attempt to appease Lebron. Then if Lebron still does leave at least you have some talent still.

Plus if you dont trade Kyrie and Lebron leaves, Kyrie's value goes down because now they know you have to trade him.

[jyra]

I don't think Mills can be traded for a while either though.

Has not signed signed yet, so a S&T is still possible (but I don't think that he is going anywhere).

[DaBears]

Get on the goddamn phone right now RC!!

Love' in every minute of this... :lmao

[cd98]

We need a PG for God's sake!!

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Uh, if that's true, it's bad. Kawhi and Pop run the Spurs. Kyrie would be a #2, same as he is w/ Cavs. But he would have the ball more given LeBron played PG.

[noles1983]

Has not signed signed yet, so a S&T is still possible (but I don't think that he is going anywhere).

that would be epic, unload an incoming shitty deal for patty, dump LMA and gain Irving? Sign me up :hungry:

[SpursforSix]

The vast majority of trades in the NBA aren't about equal basketball skill. There's no situation where Cleveland gets back equal value.

Well...there's one but it would be insane.

[cd98]

Oh wait. Does CLE have a GM? Maybe it's easy pickings time.

[Joseph Kony]

Kyrie isn't the best PG out there but he has the mentality and he is clutch. I would punt the season and trade LMA's soft ass for him and try to reload the front court next year.

[NickiRasgo]

It's happening! Kyrie will pitch LeBron next summer!

[DPG21920]

Has not signed signed yet, so a S&T is still possible (but I don't think that he is going anywhere).

True, but Im not sure you can do S&T with simultaneously trading others too? I'll have to look that up.

[NASpurs]

that would be epic, unload an incoming shitty deal for patty, dump LMA and gain Irving? Sign me up :hungry:

:lmao oh man, that would be epic

[DPG21920]

Kyrie isn't the best PG out there but he has the mentality and he is clutch. I would punt the season and trade LMA's soft ass for him and try to reload the front court next year.

I would really prefer to keep LMA.

Danny + Mills + Murray if possible. Clears out the logjam at PG and creates no hole at PF. LMA as 3rd option = good.

[SPURt]

I'm not sure why Kyrie wants to play with Kawhi if he doesn't like playing with Lebron. The meltdown that is on it's way after this falls through is going to be amazing.

[td4mvp2k]

he will end up in mia or ny they have what cavs want and more then what spurs can offer tbh

[DPG21920]

SA would have a true 3 stars with Kawhi + Kyrie + LMA

[Big Empty]

Cleveland might want Wiggins back and I can see Minnesota giving him up

[Joseph Kony]

I would really prefer to keep LMA.

Danny + Mills + Murray if possible. Clears out the logjam at PG and creates no hole at PF. LMA as 3rd option = good.
Completely agree, Irving/LMA/Kawhi would be a good trio and allow all of them to excel in their roles as 1st, 2nd, and 3rd options. I just don't think spurs can put together any real offer for him without including Aldridge that other teams couldn't easily beat. Ainge is probably already on the phone with Gilbert

[Baam]

I would really prefer to keep LMA.

Danny + Mills + Murray if possible. Clears out the logjam at PG and creates no hole at PF. LMA as 3rd option = good.

:lmao

[noles1983]

SA would have a true 3 stars with Kawhi + Kyrie + LMA

Why would we want to hang on to a disgruntled bitch ass LMA when we could get rid of him?

[NASpurs]

Build around Kyrie + Kawhi and some other dude with a name that preferably starts with "K" not named Kyle and send LMA to the wasteland that is Cleveland.

[DPG21920]

:lmao

I think Lebron and others would value Mills. We know CLE values Danny and he would help them vs GS. Murray would be the young prospect and maybe a pick included to.

Do I think that is likely? No? But possible, yes.

[cd98]

Cleveland might want Wiggins back and I can see Minnesota giving him up

Naw. Wings are way more valuable than PG. I think T-Wolves are all in on Wiggins. But they are negotiating a new contract, and if that goes poorly, who knows?

[SpursforSix]

Completely agree, Irving/LMA/Kawhi would be a good trio and allow all of them to excel in their roles as 1st, 2nd, and 3rd options. I just don't think spurs can put together any real offer for him without including Aldridge that other teams couldn't easily beat. Ainge is probably already on the phone with Gilbert

I'm not sure Gilbert would want to help a good team that's going to compete for the ECF for the foreseeable future.

[RiverwalkParade]

But how does he fit with Gay?

[DAF86]

I would really prefer to keep LMA.

Danny + Mills + Murray if possible. Clears out the logjam at PG and creates no hole at PF. LMA as 3rd option = good.

Again. LA won't be playing PF next season, it's pretty easy to deduct from the roster composition, imho.

Also, if LA whines about lack of touches now imagine the tantrum he will throw after being relegated to third option.

[Robz4000]

:lol 0 chance the Spurs land him. As has been said, he can be traded anywhere. Wouldn't shock me if Boston flipped IT and a couple assets for him.

[DAF86]

Build around Kyrie + Kawhi and some other dude with a name that preferably starts with "K" not named Kyle and send LMA to the wasteland that is Cleveland.

That would be the ultimate encrypted signal of Pop's hidden racism.

[SPURt]

The Knicks have wanted to move Melo. I think that's a piece Lebron would want more than anything the Spurs have. We all know the Knicks will seriously over pay for Kyrie.

[Mikeanaro]

Thats because he played like shit in the Finals, Lebron has a pretty long face.

[szkorhetz]

But in the meantime, LJ will sure leave Cavs next offseason.

[cd98]

:lol 0 chance the Spurs land him. As has been said, he can be traded anywhere. Wouldn't shock me if Boston flipped IT and a couple assets for him.

Celts have good assets, but would Cavs trade a player to another Eastern Conference team?

[td4mvp2k]

:lol 0 chance the Spurs land him. As has been said, he can be traded anywhere. Wouldn't shock me if Boston flipped IT and a couple assets for him.tru throw alot of picks to cavs and hard to say no

[Chomag]

We all know Rc and FO are >waiting< for a phone call

[NASpurs]

Celts have good assets, but would Cavs trade a player to another Eastern Conference team?

Yeah I agree, usually trades for big players seem to happen between conferences.

[skulls138]

Uh, if that's true, it's bad. Kawhi and Pop run the Spurs. Kyrie would be a #2, same as he is w/ Cavs. But he would have the ball more given LeBron played PG.I dont blame Kyrie, its one of the things I cant stand about James. He wants to be everything except what a SF should be which is a good shooter with a post up game.

[TD 21]

SA has to be a front runner with LMA and Murray. MIA doesn't have that much talent or picks. NY has no talent, but Melo is a close friend.

MIN has a lot of stuff but all their FA cant be traded for a while so that has to hamper them some.

Like Marks said, he doesn't have a no-trade and is under contract for multiple seasons, so they don't have to kowtow to him.

Why would Aldridge and Murray make Spurs a front runner? Cavaliers' primary focus for the next year, is going to be doing whatever possible to retain James. Aldridge is a poor offensive fit with him and would likely leave in a year and Murray isn't ready to contribute to a team with championship aspirations or a good enough prospect to be the key piece in a trade for a player of this caliber.

Spurs would need to turn Aldridge and Green into quality assets, then re-route those assets, along with Murray and probably a pick, to get in the game.

Even if it were possible, I doubt they have the balls to gut this team at this point or trade Mills (eligible December 15th) when Parker get's back to clear up the PG logjam.

Heat have the balls and of the 4, the best available assets.

[coachmac87]

Like Marks said, he doesn't have a no-trade and is under contract for multiple seasons, so they don't have to kowtow to him.

Why would Aldridge and Murray make Spurs a front runner? Cavaliers' primary focus for the next year, is going to be doing whatever possible to retain James. Aldridge is a poor offensive fit with him and would likely leave in a year and Murray isn't ready to contribute to a team with championship aspirations or a good enough prospect to be the key piece in a trade for a player of this caliber.

Spurs would need to turn Aldridge and Green into quality assets, then re-route those assets, along with Murray and probably a pick, to get in the game.

Even if it were possible, I doubt they have the balls to gut this team at this point or trade Mills (eligible December 15th) when Parker get's back to clear up the PG logjam.

Heat have the balls and of the 4, the best available assets.


Spurs- Kyrie
Suns-LMA
Cavs- Bledsoe

That's a starting point..

[dbreiden83080]

Lebron maybe starting to regret leaving Pat Riley.. Gilbert was always going to fuck shit up..

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[DesignatedT]

If Cavs are desperately trying to keep LBJ happy = They trade with New York
If Cavs see writing on the wall that LBJ is gone = They take Spurs package with LA and promising Murray.

[spurraider21]

not a big fan of kyrie's game, but man this team needs some life

still, feels bad going form the beautiful game era to kyrie isos and kawhisos

[gospursgojas]

888504354726060032

I disagree. Hayward and Tatum are TWO scoring options that Boston didn't have last year.

[BatManu20]

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[DAF86]

But in the meantime, LJ will sure leave Cavs next offseason.

We are either getting Irving now or Lebron next season. Win/win :flag:

[JR3]

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Trade value will need to hurt the cavs in order for us to pull this off...

[Robz4000]

We are either getting Irving now or Lebron next season. Win/win :flag:

Or neither and Kawhi leaves the following season ...:stirpot:

[DAF86]

Or neither and Kawhi leaves the following season...

Let me dream son.

[itzsoweezee]

Fuck Kyrie. But if he leaves, LeBron to San Antonio is even more likely.

[cd021]

Murray is a Rich Paul guy. If Lebron wants him, there's a chance. I just think Murrays play in SL nuked his value. Cleveland was also reportedly interested in Danny Green. So there's that; some pieces to the puzzle.

Would love to have Kyrie but would take one of LBJ's man crushes to make it happen.

He played well in the playoffs and during the RS, SL is SL it doesn't shouldn't affect his value to much if at all.

I would think LMA and Green would be the asking price + maybe a 1st rounder

[BatManu20]

Broussard's dumbass doesn't even know that they can't trade Teague until December at the earliest :lol

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[dbreiden83080]

But in the meantime, LJ will sure leave Cavs next offseason.

Some people call Lebron the best of all time, so how the hell in his prime could he be going to a third team? Fucking ridiculous..

[TheChillFactor]

LeBron is never coming here just STAHP

[SpursforSix]

it's happening

I'm hearing San Antonio is the likely destination for Irving.
- Spursforsix (@Spursforsix) July 21

[Chinook]

People here seem to be thinking Kyrie is better than he is. He shouldn't have as much value as Butler, for example. Talks of Boston offering the farm for him don't make sense. Talks of SA giving up the farm for Irving don't make sense either. He's a piece, not a foundation. Dumping the roster for him isn't going to move the needle for the next "eight years" like they're saying. At best, it opens up the chance a Big Three, but those contracts are something the team can't likely afford long-term.

[Chinook]

Broussard's dumbass doesn't even know that they can't trade Teague until December at the earliest :lol

888502212778786816

He's all kinds of retarded.

[BatManu20]

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[Ron Swanson]

it's happening

I'm hearing San Antonio is the likely destination for Irving.
- Spursforsix (@Spursforsix) July 21

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh fuuuuuuuuuuck!

[Big Empty]

Dragic for Kyrie would be another one. Its a long shot for the Spurs but I hope Pop and RC are atleast inquiring

[NASpurs]

Everyone uses the Spurs as leverage. Might as well rename the team to the San Antonio Leverage.

[BatManu20]

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[coachmac87]

it's happening

I'm hearing San Antonio is the likely destination for Irving.
- Spursforsix (@Spursforsix) July 21


You're a twat

[DAF86]

People here seem to be thinking Kyrie is better than he is. He shouldn't have as much value as Butler, for example. Talks of Boston offering the farm for him don't make sense. Talks of giving up the farm for Irving don't make sense either. He's a piece, not a foundation.

Kawhi is the fundation, Kyrie is the big piece around that foundation that makes all the other shitty pieces replaceable.

You are crazy if you wouldn't give up everything but Kawhi to get Irving, tbh.

[Ron Swanson]

Dragic for Kyrie would be another one. Its a long shot for the Spurs but I hope Pop and RC are atleast inquiring


Exactly. I hope we at least look into this. It's known we're one of the teams he prefers. We need to see what it would take. If they want Kawhi, tell them no thanks and move on. Anyone else should be available for this. Fuck peoples' feelings. This is about the future of the franchise and remaining competitive.

[tonight...you]

Kawhi is the fundation, Kyrie is the big piece around that foundation that makes all the other shitty pieces repleaceable.

You are crazy if you wouldn't give up everything but Kawhi to get Irving, tbh.
RC is sending drunken sexts as we type...

[MannyIsGod]

People here seem to be thinking Kyrie is better than he is. He shouldn't have as much value as Butler, for example. Talks of Boston offering the farm for him don't make sense. Talks of SA giving up the farm for Irving don't make sense either. He's a piece, not a foundation. Dumping the roster for him isn't going to move the needle for the next "eight years" like they're saying. At best, it opens up the chance a Big Three, but those contracts are something the team can't likely afford long-term.

He's a damn good number 2. Those aren't exactly easy to come by. You build around a core of Kawhi and Irving quite easily, IMO.

[BatManu20]

:cry

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFSWPfqVYAITgV5?format=jpg&name=large

[$pursDynasty]

I was going to hop into the ESPN trade machine but it appears Patty can't be part of the trade at least according to the trade machine :depressed

[tonight...you]

Exactly. I hope we at least look into this. It's known we're one of the teams he prefers. We need to see what it would take. If they want Kawhi, tell them no thanks and move on. Anyone else should be available for this. Fuck peoples' feelings. This is about the future of the franchise and remaining competitive.
Fuck people's feelings? But not including Kawhi? Who would that mean? Parker and Manu?
Like they would be sought after in a trade...

What the hell are you referring to?

[mando6599]

Spurs are trending on Twitter for these rumors. Ha!

[Emperor]

Kyrie/Love for Aldridge/Green/Murray/Anderson works in the trade machine.

[sasaint]

People here seem to be thinking Kyrie is better than he is. He shouldn't have as much value as Butler, for example. Talks of Boston offering the farm for him don't make sense. Talks of SA giving up the farm for Irving don't make sense either. He's a piece, not a foundation. Dumping the roster for him isn't going to move the needle for the next "eight years" like they're saying. At best, it opens up the chance a Big Three, but those contracts are something the team can't likely afford long-term.

I think Kyrie wants to go to some team where he can put up Harden/Westbrook numbers to prove he is better than just LeBron's sidekick. That team is not the Spurs.

[$pursDynasty]

He's a damn good number 2. Those aren't exactly easy to come by. You build around a core of Kawhi and Irving quite easily, IMO.
The Spurs need a #1 scoring threat (Kyrie, KD, Steph) so the KingSlayer can put energy into defense and still be a very good #2 or 3 scoring option. Kyrie does fit that bill.

[FkLA]

Interested but is anyone else concerned with the fact that he has an issue taking a backseat to a Top 2 player of all-time? That just makes no sense.

[sasaint]

Kawhi is the fundation, Kyrie is the big piece around that foundation that makes all the other shitty pieces replaceable.

You are crazy if you wouldn't give up everything but Kawhi to get Irving, tbh.

I believe that Kyrie wants to get out of the shadow of the Cav's "foundation." I don't think he wants to make a move to play with another foundation. He wants to go to a team where he is the man.

[Chinook]

Kawhi is the fundation, Kyrie is the big piece around that foundation that makes all the other shitty pieces repleaceable.

You are crazy if you wouldn't give up everything but Kawhi to get Irving, tbh.

Kyrie isn't even good enough to get a team to the playoffs by himself. To put into comparison, here is his best season compared to those of Gay and Parker:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kyrie+Irving&player_id1_select=Kyrie+Irving&player_id1=irvinky01&y1=2017&player_id2_hint=Rudy+Gay&player_id2_select=Rudy+Gay&player_id2=gayru01&y2=2015&player_id3_hint=Tony+Parker&player_id3_select=Tony+Parker&player_id3=parketo01&y3=2013

I am not saying that there aren't a lot of deals I would make for Irving, but considering paying him and Kawhi (and best-case DMC) more than $100 Million a season is scary. He is not worth everything.

[bklynspursfan]

I think Kyrie wants to go to some team where he can put up Harden/Westbrook numbers to prove he is better than just LeBron's sidekick. That team is not the Spurs.

I wouldn't be surprised if this all started cause LeBron told Kyrie he's leaving next year, and he's telling him to get out too, even if it means saying that he's tired of playing with LeBron.

He proved in the finals a couple years ago he can be special. Saying he wants to be "the guy" but then list SA as a choice when we have "the guy" already doesn't quite equate. The Knicks/Heat certainly do.

[BatManu20]

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[Ron Swanson]

Fuck people's feelings? But not including Kawhi? Who would that mean? Parker and Manu?
Like they would be sought after in a trade...

What the hell are you referring to?

I'm saying we should explore any possibility outside of moving Kawhi. Who knows if a third team would get involved and what they would be willing to take?

[baseline bum]

I think Kyrie wants to go to some team where he can put up Harden/Westbrook numbers to prove he is better than just LeBron's sidekick. That team is not the Spurs.

I think he either found out or strongly suspects LeBron is gone next summer.

[BatManu20]

I was going to hop into the ESPN trade machine but it appears Patty can't be part of the trade at least according to the trade machine :depressed

Can't be traded until December. Spurs wouldn't anyways.

[Chinook]

I think Kyrie wants to go to some team where he can put up Harden/Westbrook numbers to prove he is better than just LeBron's sidekick. That team is not the Spurs.

I don't know if it's the numbers he cares about as much as the reputation. You can never shine next to Lebron, even if you are an established future HoFer like Bosh. Irving and Leonard would be a nice 1A/1B who could play off each other, while if LMA were to be kept, he'd have a great big to set up. His numbers should remain the same, but the perception of those numbers would be different.

[NickiRasgo]

Can the Spurs trade Parker as a filler and ask Cavs to waive him then sign him next year around January/February?

[DAF86]

Irving and Love for Aldridge, Green, Mills, draft picks and cash.

Cavs do this because:

-They fulfill Irving's wishes.
-They get rid of Love's contract.
-Get Aldridge's 22 millions expiring contract.

[sasaint]

I think he either found out or strongly suspects LeBron is gone next summer.

Along with every other basketball fan in the known universe. :lol

[Ron Swanson]

LeBron leaving next summer is NBA's worst kept secret.

[$pursDynasty]

Kyrie/Love for Aldridge/Green/Murray/Anderson works in the trade machine.
I want no part of KLove. Is there any way we can morph Patty's contract into a sign and trade? A Spurs team with Kyrie as #1 scoring option, Kingslayer as the best player on the team but #2 scoring option and makes LMA the #3 option is a pretty serious line up. Also takes the pressure off of LMA and hopefully that will allow him to shine.

[cd021]

I think he knows Lebron is gone next summer... so he's trying to jump ship before shit hits the fan.

Remember, there was rumors that he was going to take is qualifying offer and leave after his forth season. He wound up resigning and Lebron came but he wasn't always happy to be in Cleveland.

Spurs better be moving to try and get him, they have the best assets of the teams on his list. Cleveland can try and salvage this upcoming season but it means that this could be the end of the Cav's run

[Chinook]

He's a damn good number 2. Those aren't exactly easy to come by. You build around a core of Kawhi and Irving quite easily, IMO.

Sure, but that's only worth so much. The Spurs can't afford to punt this season without a long-term commitment from Irving, and even if he gives it, it would come from him getting way too much money from SA. Most I would go is Green, Parker, Murray, Bertans and a pick for Irving and Shumpert. You start talking about Green, LMA, Murray and picks, and you pretty much punt half of Kyrie's contract away, because you still have no bigs other than Pau and Lauvergne. And it's not like the Spurs are actually going to perform better after the trade than they would without it. We can bitch all we want, but the team will still be a top-four team in the league next year

[Chinook]

Irving and Love for Aldridge, Green, Mills, draft picks and cash.

Cavs do this because:

-They fulfill Irving's wishes.
-They get rid of Love's contract.
-Get Aldridge's 22 millions expiring contract.

Love has positive value, probably more than LMA. Would make more sense to ship Love to Phoenix and send back some of whatever he gets to Cleveland.

Mills isn't a realistic piece to any trade to Cleveland right now, though.

[gospursgojas]

Everyone uses the Spurs as leverage. Might as well rename the team to the San Antonio Leverage.

This

[DAF86]

Sure, but that's only worth so much. The Spurs can't afford to punt this season without a long-term commitment from Irving, and even if he gives it, it would come from him getting way too much money from SA. Most I would go is Green, Parker, Murray, Bertans and a pick for Irving and Shumpert. You start talking about Green, LMA, Murray and picks, and you pretty much punt half of Kyrie's contract away, because you still have no bigs other than Pau and Lauvergne. And it's not like the Spurs are actually going to perform better after the trade than they would without it. We can bitch all we want, but the team will still be a top-four team in the league next year

So you wouldn't trade LA, who is going to be out of the team next off-season anyway? :lol

[Hoops Czar]

Kyrie isn't even good enough to get a team to the playoffs by himself. To put into comparison, here is his best season compared to those of Gay and Parker:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Kyrie+Irving&player_id1_select=Kyrie+Irving&player_id1=irvinky01&y1=2017&player_id2_hint=Rudy+Gay&player_id2_select=Rudy+Gay&player_id2=gayru01&y2=2015&player_id3_hint=Tony+Parker&player_id3_select=Tony+Parker&player_id3=parketo01&y3=2013

I am not saying that there aren't a lot of deals I would make for Irving, but considering paying him and Kawhi (and best-case DMC) more than $100 Million a season is scary. He is not worth everything.

Gut the roster? Outside of Leonard, thed Spurs have nothing. Kylie isn't eligible for free agency until 2019 so the Spurs have a couple of years to play around with to see how he'd fit. Not many elite players are going to shun the big city and bright lights to play for a small market team like the Spurs in order to win a championship. The Spurs have to take what they can get. He can also help recruit a third star to S.A. because I have no confidence Leonard will ever open his mouth.

[TD 21]

Spurs- Kyrie
Suns-LMA
Cavs- Bledsoe

That's a starting point..

Cavaliers would have to be interested in one of Warren, Bender or Chriss, as well as one of White or Spurs '18 1st.

Suns would have to be interested in Murray and one of White or Spurs '18 1st.

Spurs should do whichever machination in a second (especially considering they could re-coup a 1st in a Mills trade when Parker returns), but this would really decimate the front line.

[Chinook]

So you wouldn't trade LA, who is going to be out of the team next off-season anyway? :lol

People need to decide if LMA opting in or opting out is supposed to be the worst thing in the world. I can't keep it straight what I'm supposed to be scared of. No, I'm not keen to trade Green, LMA and the future prospects for Irving. The team will likely not be better next year and they'll either have one more year of Irving (which they may have with LMA anyway), or they'll have more but be paying Irving a new max deal.

[sasaint]

I don't know if it's the numbers he cares about as much as the reputation. You can never shine next to Lebron, even if you are an established future HoFer like Bosh. Irving and Leonard would be a nice 1A/1B who could play off each other, while if LMA were to be kept, he'd have a great big to set up. His numbers should remain the same, but the perception of those numbers would be different.

Maybe... Frankly, Kyrie as a number 1 option (as long as he didn't go all Harden/Westbrook) would be very exciting. It would help Kawhi's overall game and the team as a whole. It is much easier to have a guard leading the offense. As a number of posters have commented over the last few seasons, a SF-centric offense is a little more awkward. Kawhi's handles are plenty good, and they have steadily improved, but isn't the same as having a good PG running the offense.

Of course Kawhi might have a more difficult time earning MVP (for those who are concerned about such things).

[Chinook]

Gut the roster? Outside of Leonard, thed Spurs have nothing. Kylie isn't eligible for free agency until 2019 so the Spurs have a couple of years to play around with to see how he'd fit. Not many elite players are going to shun the big city and bright lights to play for a small market team like the Spurs in order to win a championship. The Spurs have to take what they can get. He can also help recruit a third star to S.A. because I have no confidence Leonard will ever open his mouth.

:rolleyes Houston totally lost two games in a row to "nothing".

[NASpurs]

I haven't checked in five minutes, has the trade happened yet? Thx.

[Hoops Czar]

:rolleyes Houston totally lost two games in a row to "nothing".
Pretty much. :lol

[Canyonero]

Kyrie chose SAS after Manu agreed to another season tbh.

[Dverde]

Wow a three team trade LMA to Suns, Irving to Spurs, Bledsoe to Cavs make sense. Too bad we draft and signed all those guards.

[DAF86]

People need to decide if LMA opting in or opting out is supposed to be the worst thing in the world. I can't keep it straight what I'm supposed to be scared of. No, I'm not keen to trade Green, LMA and the future prospects for Irving. The team will likely not be better next year and they'll either have one more year of Irving (which they may have with LMA anyway), or they'll have more but be paying Irving a new max deal.

Having Aldridge on the team is the worst thing. He needs to get the fuck out. If he opts out next season without the Spurs getting anything is fine. Him getting trade for Irving is even better.

And yeah, Irving would comand the max, but paying a couple max contracts is what any contender needs to do if they want to fight for championships, tbh.

[dabom]

Porker+2fatheads. Do it RC. :hat

[dabom]

"hes a 4 time champion and FMVP"... -RC

[lilbthebasedgod]

If he wants too much then no. He's vastly overrated and therefore vastly overvalued.

[Raven]

overrated player. i'm not interested.

[PublicOption]

If Kryie is saying he wants to come to the spurs....it better be the cavs front office that doesnt cooperate....anything else would be RC's cheap ass.

[Chinook]

Having Aldridge on the team is the worst thing. He needs to get the fuck out. If he opts out next season without the Spurs getting anything is fine. Him getting trade for Irving is even better.

And yeah, Irving would comand the max, but paying a couple max contracts is what any contender needs to do if they want to fight for championships, tbh.

Yeah, because having LMA on the team has been so hampering to the Spurs...

No, paying Irving so much along with Kawhi isn't some obvious point. Do you actually think Kyrie, Kawhi and min deals is likely to do better than SA has recently? I can't think of any way to argue that. Only way it makes is if the Spurs use cap space on a guy like Cousins, but then that's cap hell. Depending on the price, go for it and hope it works out. But either they need to keep a strong roster this year or keep future prospects. They can't lose both.

[tholdren]

If only he could be a Spur, tbh.

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Hes the dumbest pg in the league bar none. Has no loyalty. Blames others. Great idea, sign him, then spurs could have the pg version of lma

[tbdog]

Lma needs to be used for salary purposes. Unless Parker goes. Mills can't get traded yet. Same as Gasol and Gay. And we need bigs.

[Hoops Czar]

Yeah, because having LMA on the team has been so hampering to the Spurs...

No, paying Irving so much along with Kawhi isn't some obvious point. Do you actually think Kyrie, Kawhi and min deals is likely to do better than SA has recently? I can't think of any way to argue that. Only way it makes is if the Spurs use cap space on a guy like Cousins, but then that's cap hell. Depending on the price, go for it and hope it works out. But either they need to keep a strong roster this year or keep future prospects. They can't lose both.

Kyrie is under team control for at least two more seasons. In that time, something else could open up and change everything. Outside of Leonard, there isn't a single player on this roster that can't be replaced.

[Chinook]

Kyrie is under team control for at least two more seasons. In that time, something else could open up and change everything. Outside of Leonard, there isn't a single player on this roster that can't be replaced.

He's under control for only one more July. They aren't replacing their depth at this point. Kyrie/Kawhi/LMA can win a title. Kyrie/Kawhi can't.

[Mnky]

If he wants to win, why would he honestly go to NY?

New York is as good as LA business wise. He would also be paired with one of the most exciting young players in porzingus. Is take that over post lebron Cleveland in a heartbeat.

[spurs10]

Kylie is an all-star that would make this team better. Losing our best big is not great, but it seems to be the only salary that would match. If LMA really is disgruntled being here, which neither he or the Sours have said, this might go down. It's all over the radio with people saying he wants to come here.