Woj: Pau Gasol Agrees to 3-yr Deal w/ Spurs

[BatManu20]

3 years... Woof. I'm assuming there's a team-option after the 2nd year, but still.


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[SanAntonioSpurs23]

:lol

[jyra]

So all the waiting for nothing..

[coachmac87]

Money matters not the years

[raybies]

Hopefully it's got a similar structure to Simmons deal.

[Ron Swanson]

Three years?

[r0drig0lac]

3 years... Woof. I'm assuming there's a team-option after the 2nd year, but still.


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[noles1983]

Fuck this team. Sign this old shitbag for an inflated 1 year deal and move the fuck on. Soooooooooooo fucking stupid.

[SpursforSix]

Three years?

:pop: he wants to make sure his goodbye tour doesn't conflict with Tony or Manu's.

[cd98]

No shock. They are stretching out what he was owed over three years plus a little extra so they could get cap space. This was a smart move by Gasol and Spurs front office.

[apalisoc_9]

Go to LA kawhi.

Don't spend your prime carrying 40 year olds and n
then not getting any credit for it.

[BatManu20]

Dammit..


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[noles1983]

No shock. They are stretching out what he was owed over three years plus a little extra so they could get cap space. This was a smart move by Gasol and Spurs front office.

Would rather have had the 1 year left on his opt in deal. Fuck this.

[Spurs Brazil]

WOJ

Story soon on Gasol deal, but terms include a partial guarantee on final year of contract.

[noles1983]

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[Chinook]

:lol fucking Patty.

[Robz4000]

:vomit:

[marinoman]

Wish I had more hands, so I give this deal 4 thumbs down

[cd98]

Would rather have had the 1 year left on his opt in deal. Fuck this.

They needed the money this year. Gasol can still be an effective player. He had his moments last year and if he can keep hitting 3s, all the more. I'm fine with him, he was unselfish and adjusted fine to coming off the bench when asked. His offensive game is still good and even if he's slow on defense, at least he's long. Big men age better than guards.

[raybies]

patty stacks, patty Stacks, Patty Stacks, PATTY STACKS

[Hoops Czar]

:lol at people who think Parker will be off the books next season.

[noles1983]

They needed the money this year. Gasol can still be an effective player. He had his moments last year and if he can keep hitting 3s, all the more. I'm fine with him, he was unselfish and adjusted fine to coming off the bench when asked. His offensive game is still good and even if he's slow on defense, at least he's long. Big men age better than guards.

Only because the stupid FO decided to outbid themselves for Patty Mills. Dumb, irrating fucking offseason

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

:pop: Gotta keep that Spanish culture intact within the Spurs ballclub

[BatManu20]

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[noles1983]

Signs a friendly 3 year deal, gets his ass traded with others to Cavs for Irving. :hungry:

[cd98]

Only because the stupid FO decided to outbid themselves for Patty Mills. Dumb, irrating fucking offseason

Yes, but look at the bigs out there. I'd rather have Gasol.

[RD2191]

:lmao Kawhi packing his bags as we speak

[noles1983]

Yes, but look at the bigs out there. I'd rather have Gasol.

Would rather have a life size Shaq cardboard cutout defending the paint.

[Big Empty]

im ok with this. Im sure its about 8 million a year.

[DPG21920]

I said 3/24 from the beginning. Logic? He was due 16M for one year, that would get split over 2 then replicated for year 3 as more guaranteed money.

Looks like it could be less than that if the guarantee is small enough (maybe 4M)? I understand it. Pau will only play for 2 years - like I read, seems like the Duncan plan: Spread the money out over 3 years with the partial guarantee. Want to see the numbers for him and Manu though.

[NASpurs]

:lol gets benched during the playoffs, then gets a longer contract in the offseason

PATFO logic

[MannyIsGod]

What did y'all expect when he opted out? Thiw was going to happen the entire time.

[MannyIsGod]

I said 3/24 from the beginning. Logic? He was due 16M for one year, that would get split over 2 then replicated for year 3 as more guaranteed money.

Looks like it could be less than that if the guarantee is small enough (maybe 4M)? I understand it. Pau will only play for 2 years - like I read, seems like the Duncan plan: Spread the money out over 3 years with the partial guarantee. Want to see the numbers for him and Manu though.

Exactly. This has been obvious AF since the opt out. Once the Spurs signed gay there was no way they were going to be able to do a one year deal for him again although that was probably never even the plan.

[cd98]

So the Spurs should not re-sign him? Then what happens the next time they need a player to opt out? If the Spurs didn't re-sign him, then it would be a black eye that would discourage other players from coming.

[bklynspursfan]

:lol gets benched during the playoffs, then gets a longer contract in the offseason

PATFO logic

Well he opted out to help, he's getting similar money just spread out. He helped us out, they just reciprocated

[Spurs 4 The Win]

So the Spurs should not re-sign him? Then what happens the next time they need a player to opt out? If the Spurs didn't re-sign him, then it would be a black eye that would discourage other players from coming.

This, we did the right thing. These are the same morons that think we should trade Tony, it aint gonna happen. The league is not just numbers, you cant screw over players either, or they bail on you and nobody else will come. Kawhi is paying attention.

[NASpurs]

Well he opted out to help, he's getting similar money just spread out. He helped us out, they just reciprocated

Yeah I knew it was going to happen. Part of me tried to block it out though.

[noles1983]

This, we did the right thing. These are the same morons that think we should trade Tony, it aint gonna happen. The league is not just numbers, you cant screw over players either, or they bail on you and nobody else will come. Kawhi is paying attention.

You are right about one thing in this shit post. Kawhi is watching. Watching us re-sign long erm deals to shitty players. I bet he is thrilled we have Gasol and Mills locked up.

[bklynspursfan]

Yeah I knew it was going to happen. Part of me tried to block it out though.

Haha.. yea. I honestly just hope he continues to be a 3 point threat at this point

[DPG21920]

It's not that bad. Pau as a bench big was really damn good. Now his annual pay will definitely reflect that and SA is weak on bigs.

The fact he accepted the bench role and opted out and resigned for less annual is a good thing. Especially if SA gets Kyrie.

[Quiet Strength]

Better be 3 years for free then

[Spurs 4 The Win]

You are right about one thing in this shit post. Kawhi is watching. Watching us re-sign long erm deals to shitty players. I bet he is thrilled we have Gasol and Mills locked up.

We have the best GM in the league and you are going to criticize being classy and doing things the right way? Go be a fan of another team if you think we should trade Tony and fuck over Pau. The only issue I have with our offseason is resigning Patty, that was dumb.

[apalisoc_9]

Pack your bags Kawhi!!!

[Spurs 4 The Win]

It's not that bad. Pau as a bench big was really damn good. Now his annual pay will definitely reflect that and SA is weak on bigs.

The fact he accepted the bench role and opted out and resigned for less annual is a good thing. Especially if SA gets Kyrie.
:toast

[apalisoc_9]

We have the best GM in the league and you are going to criticize being classy and doing things the right way? Go be a fan of another team if you think we should trade Tony and fuck over Pau. The only issue I have with our offseason is resigning Patty, that was dumb.

Best GM

Omg :lmao

[noles1983]

We have the best GM in the league and you are going to criticize being classy and doing things the right way? Go be a fan of another team if you think we should trade Tony and fuck over Pau. The only issue I have with our offseason is resigning Patty, that was dumb.

Which made Pau opting out useless and fucking stupid. Could have signed shitty mills for way less and only be on the books for 1 year more of Gasol.

[baseline bum]

What did y'all expect when he opted out? Thiw was going to happen the entire time.

Yeah, it would be really chickenshit to renege on the three year offer they dangled to get him to opt out and create more room to go after CP3. Still I'm hoping it's not any worse than 3 years, $30 million.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Which made Pau opting out useless and fucking stupid. Could have signed shitty mills for way less and only be on the books for 1 year more of Gasol.

We swung and missed on CP3. Cant blame them for trying.

[noles1983]

We swung and missed on CP3. Cant blame them for trying.

I guess we don't have the best GM then?

[SPURt]

Yeah, it would be really chickenshit to renege on the three year offer they dangled to get him to opt out and create more room to go after CP3. Still I'm hoping it's not any worse than 3 years, $30 million.
This. Just the thought of anything above $10 mil for any of the years triggers my gag reflex.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I guess we don't have the best GM then?

Oh yeah, the best GM is Morey. :rolleyes Fuck off troll :lol

[noles1983]

Oh yeah, the best GM is Morey. :rolleyes Fuck off troll :lol

lol your "arguments" contradict themselves and your shitty takes are just that.

[ElNono]

welcome back!

[DAF86]

As long as his contract allows enough flexibility to sign Lebron next year, I'm cool.

[TD 21]

I don't know why anyone is getting worked up over something that was obvious the moment he opted out. It was always going to result in either a 2 or 3 year contract and if it was the latter, it was always going to be a partially guaranteed final season. It's a win-win: He's made whole and they lessen the cap hit, which increases their flexibility going forward.

[Chinook]

Well, if the team does trade LMA for Irving, then a Big Three with Cousins would make the most sense. Gasol as the backup C for a few years would be interesting.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I don't know why anyone is getting worked up over something that was obvious the moment he opted out. It was always going to result in either a 2 or 3 year contract and if it was the latter, it was always going to be a partially guaranteed final season. It's a win-win: He's made whole and they lessen the cap hit, which increases their flexibility going forward.

Well dont tell this to noles1983, he thinks we shouldve told him to go fuck himself

[SAGirl]

:lol fucking Patty.

:lmao

[SAGirl]

They needed the money this year. Gasol can still be an effective player. He had his moments last year and if he can keep hitting 3s, all the more. I'm fine with him, he was unselfish and adjusted fine to coming off the bench when asked. His offensive game is still good and even if he's slow on defense, at least he's long. Big men age better than guards.

They didn't need the money if they were just going to stand pat IMO. I understand when Gasol opted out he didn't know if some FA were a possibility, but after Spurs decided to spend on Patty and stand pat.... this was :lol

[noles1983]

Well dont tell this to noles1983, he thinks we shouldve told him to go fuck himself

Just glad we have the best GM who gets Pau to opt out so he can chase Chris Paul and fails miserably, offers Patty Mills a retarded contract 1 minute into Free Agency, all the while now having to keep Pau's old ass 2 years longer. So much winning.:toast

[Seventyniner]

I'm going to guess 11 per year with 3 guaranteed in the final year.

[baseline bum]

Well, if the team does trade LMA for Irving, then a Big Three with Cousins would make the most sense. Gasol as the backup C for a few years would be interesting.

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[Chinook]

^You have a really weird taste in players for someone who's been a Spurs fan as long as you have.

[td4mvp2k]

mvpau :toast

[tholdren]

Which made Pau opting out useless and fucking stupid. Could have signed shitty mills for way less and only be on the books for 1 year more of Gasol.

You dont know that. But keep speculating

[TheDoctor]

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[sasaint]

They didn't need the money if they were just going to stand pat IMO. I understand when Gasol opted out he didn't know if some FA were a possibility, but after Spurs decided to spend on Patty and stand pat.... this was :lol

That's my take, too, but maybe I am missing something. PATFO's doing this opt-out deal with Pau without having some pretty big FA on a firm verbal commitment just looks like stumblin', fumblin', bumblin' by PATFO.

[TheDoctor]

Well, if the team does trade LMA for Irving, then a Big Three with Cousins would make the most sense. Gasol as the backup C for a few years would be interesting.

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[ElNono]

Bet Kawhi really pushed to get MVPau back, tbh

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Not sure why all the fuss..

This was a done deal the day he opted out. The Spurs need him to stretch his contract so they can create cap room, specially for 2018. When he opted out it was because they needed cap space for make a big splash this postseason but it didn't happen so now they structure the money anyway.

Also, he's the only starting center the Spurs have on the books now.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

YES!!!

[TheGreatYacht]

My nigga took a damn paycut and opted out of his 15M deal, and the front office used it on Pity fucking Mills. Incredible how stupid this front office is.

[Snaq O'Meal]

My nigga took a damn paycut and opted out of his 15M deal, and the front office used it on Pity fucking Mills. Incredible how stupid this front office is.

Best front office in the business. Didn't you read how RC kept picking steals of the draft in Kyle Anderson, Dejounte Murray and Derrick White?

[noles1983]

You dont know that. But keep speculating

Speculating, more like deductive reasoning.

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[TheGreatYacht]

Best front office in the business. Didn't you read how RC kept picking steals of the draft in Kyle Anderson, Dejounte Murray and Derrick White?
Next year's pick? Who knows but I'm hearing 29 other teams will regret not taking him and RC stole lottery talent late in the draft

[noles1983]

Not sure why all the fuss..

This was a done deal the day he opted out. The Spurs need him to stretch his contract so they can create cap room, specially for 2018. When he opted out it was because they needed cap space for make a big splash this postseason but it didn't happen so now they structure the money anyway.

Also, he's the only starting center the Spurs have on the books now.

Yup the Spurs gambled on a hit and run and hit into a double play to end the game. Now we have Pau for 3 fucking years and patty for 4. :vomit:

[LkrFan]

Go to the LA Lakers kawhi.

Don't spend your prime carrying 40 year olds and n
then not getting any credit for it.

:lol

[LkrFan]

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:lmao

[ismael-robert]

Lets not forget lma handicapped rc with his ALLEGED crying about wanting out and hurt their chances on recruiting cp3. Why do any think cousins will leave to spurs after he just joined A.Davis

[Capt Bringdown]

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[tholdren]

Speculating, more like deductive reasoning.

You have no idea why pau was waiting. But keep being a gay noles fan.

[ismael-robert]

Lets not forget lma handicapped rc with his ALLEGED crying about wanting out and hurt their chances on recruiting cp3. Why do any think cousins will leave to spurs after he just joined A.Davis

[timtonymanu]

Ugh I guess. Personally hated watching Pau last season

[tholdren]

Ugh I guess. Personally hated watching Pau last season

The airball layups?

[cutewizard]

The point center returns.......

[DenialTwist]

3 years? So Spurs want a washed up Pau until he is 40? If they had just paid him 16M this season they wouldn't have to worry about his contract next season.

[Raven]

I'm glad, in our position getting Gay, Lauvergne, rookie for dedmon, lee, simmons is a damn good coup. Gasol and Aldridge will be better now that they have more experience in the system.

[cutewizard]

I'm glad, in our position getting Gay, Lauvergne, rookie for dedmon, lee, simmons is a damn good coup. Gasol and Aldridge will be better now that they have more experience in the system.

Unless Lamarcus is traded

[EIC]

PATFO need to offer up their left nuts along with any players not named "Kawhi" or "Gay" that the Cavs want for Irving. He's the only thing that can save this abortion of a roster at this point. Take Love of their hands, too, if we can.

[DrSteffo]

I always picked Pau for my fantasy team in the early yeas of his career and I won against some NBA-connected ppl I know. Underrated back then and still solid. I like him.

[TheGreatYacht]

Glad our true 6th man is back. MVPau :toast

[steeledl]

lol what a pathetic fucking roster we have put together in this arms race. Resigning Manu and Pau over Simmons.

[Texas_Ranger]

lol what a pathetic fucking roster we have put together in this arms race. Resigning Manu and Pau over Simmons.

if Simmons was better tnan those two I would complain. And if Simmons really wanted to be here he would sign with the Spurs but it was obvious he wanted out. Good luck playing on a 20 win team. He'll probably end up in China in 2 years.

[spursfaninla]

Simmons was exciting but did not deliver during the regular season. One good series when the steaks were off the table does not make him a must-have. Plus he evidently was going to be a problem child, culture-wise, not worth it.

Only casual spurs fans think this guy would have made a substantial difference in our actual championship chances, which is all that matters. bottom line, he did not improve, he can't shoot, and his efficiency was terrible.

all he brings is a moderately good defensive player who can create/slash.

[Capt Bringdown]

Spurs not serious about fielding a competitive team and/or are grossly incompetent.
Unless we see additional moves, this offseason has been a disaster.

[spursfaninla]

Spurs not serious about fielding a competitive team and/or are grossly incompetent.
Unless we see additional moves, this offseason has been a disaster.

who were the spurs supposed to bring in? They got gay on the super-cheap. only upside. We got plenty of filler players.

[024]

What are the details of the contract? Hoping under 10 million per year. But seeing how Gasol gave up 16 million this year, I have a feeling it's going to be a 3yr/30-36 million deal :vomit:

[DAF86]

I can't wait for the season to start so that Simmons can be his usual sucky self and shit on all the dumbasses that are crying about not resigning him, tbh.

[Hoops Czar]

I can't wait for the season to start so that Simmons can be his usual sucky self and shit on all the dumbasses that are crying about not resigning him, tbh.

[Cklbmk]

Simmons was exciting but did not deliver during the regular season. One good series when the steaks were off the table does not make him a must-have. Plus he evidently was going to be a problem child, culture-wise, not worth it.

Only casual spurs fans think this guy would have made a substantial difference in our actual championship chances, which is all that matters. bottom line, he did not improve, he can't shoot, and his efficiency was terrible.

all he brings is a moderately good defensive player who can create/slash.



It's pretty clear the majority of this thread is casuals.

Cousins on the Spurs? Be fucking real. Spurs don't get headcases.

Mills isn't a bad contract. He was estimated to get 18mil by Lowe and them before the offseason. He's VERY movable at 12.

[DJR210]

Wish I had more hands, so I give this deal 4 thumbs down

Classic line

[TheGreatYacht]

It's pretty clear the majority of this thread is casuals.

Cousins on the Spurs? Be fucking real. Spurs don't get headcases.

Mills isn't a bad contract. He was estimated to get 18mil by Lowe and them before the offseason. He's VERY movable at 12.
:lol Let's be real. He wasn't getting 18M/yr

Superior players like Hill, Rose, Rondo, Collison, Livingston, etc have been fucked in this market. PATFO overplayed their hand as per usual, and overpaid for "loyalty" as per usual.

[skulls138]

lol what a pathetic fucking roster we have put together in this arms race. Resigning Manu and Pau over Simmons.What did Simmons do? He had a good playoff but is not a solid basketball player. Obviously Pau and Manu are not the future but theyll do while we get the future.

[TheGreatYacht]

What did Simmons do? He had a good playoff but is not a solid basketball player. Obviously Pau and Manu are not the future but theyll do while we get the future.
Yeah okay. PATFO will continue to let younger pieces go just to accommodate Manure, as per usual. Old fuck is just holding everyone back with his guaranteed 10M+ and playing time

[DPG21920]

Spurs not serious about fielding a competitive team and/or are grossly incompetent.
Unless we see additional moves, this offseason has been a disaster.

It hasn't been a particularly great off-season, but come on. How spoiled can you be to call this front office incompetent. If you believe that you have some serious issues.

Also you are viewing this in a 1-year lense which is not always how SA views off-seasons.

[Snaq O'Meal]

The point center returns.......

Having a smart, passing big man and two dynamic wing players is a prefect setup for a triangle offence. Let's see if Poop can get over himself to at least try that out.

[skulls138]

Yeah okay. PATFO will continue to let younger pieces go just to accommodate Manure, as per usual. Old fuck is just holding everyone back with his guaranteed 10M+ and playing timeFor next year alone, Simmons wasnt going to be as helpful as Manu. So since Simmons is not any long term answer, why keep him? I think people look at Simmons and see Stephen Jackson but hes not. Hes not the wild card we always seem to need to put us over the top. For one thing we need our core to develop b4 we get the wild card because wild cards dont stick around long.

[SAGirl]

Having a smart, passing big man and two dynamic wing players is a prefect setup for a triangle offence. Let's see if Poop can get over himself to at least try that out.

I would love to see him get more creative... 4 down is so passe. It doesn't fit his younger roster either.

[SAGirl]

For next year alone, Simmons wasnt going to be as helpful as Manu. So since Simmons is not any long term answer, why keep him? I think people look at Simmons and see Stephen Jackson but hes not. Hes not the wild card we always seem to need to put us over the top. For one thing we need our core to develop b4 we get the wild card because wild cards dont stick around long.

The spurs definite trouble is that outside of Kawhi their stars are underwhelming. LMA didn't perform like a reliable 2 option at least half the season. Asking Manu and Tony to be reliable at this point is too much. You take their 1 good game out of 4 or whatever and be grateful. Roleplayers are that, and the system is not built for them to get them the ball in their spots or anything like that. They will take what is given and some nights will have rhythm and ohters they don't and don't take enough shots or play enough minutes to establish it. ... spurs need a legit 2nd star.

[cjw]

The spurs definite trouble is that outside of Kawhi their stars are underwhelming. LMA didn't perform like a reliable 2 option at least half the season. Asking Manu and Tony to be reliable at this point is too much. You take their 1 good game out of 4 or whatever and be grateful. Roleplayers are that, and the system is not built for them to get them the ball in their spots or anything like that. They will take what is given and some nights will have rhythm and ohters they don't and don't take enough shots or play enough minutes to establish it. ... spurs need a legit 2nd star.

No, the Spurs problem is the Warriors are possibly the most dominant team in NBA history. They were better last year than every other team. Aldridge was solid against Houston. Against the Warriors, it's hard to say much considering two of the top three guard/wing playmakers were out and the defense could key on him.

Spurs aren't blowing their load this year knowing full well there was no move that would bring them closer to GS. They're keeping their cap next offseason clean when cap space will be sparse and good deals will be had (think about all the RFA this year who will be signing QOs). Pau is going to be fine at his contract value and will essentially be an expiring with a small cap hit in 2019-20. Mills will be moveable - this is a league where cancer Reggie Jackson is making 40% more than Mills.

Simmons would have made the team potentially slightly better this year but had the potential to be a bad deal at the dollars he was willing to sign at before everything hit the fan. He can't shoot and was literally only Manu insurance. Brandon Paul cheap for two years is a much better value.

Can you please name a playmaker that was available without gutting the roster? I can't either.

[140]

PATF:lol fluffers :lmao

[sasaint]

I wanted the Spurs to bring Simmons back - not because of his performance last season, but in anticipation of his improved performance next season. It was a bit of a gamble to bring him back over Manu. His performance last season wouldn't justify it. Only his performance this coming season will show whether Spurs made the right call. I wish Simmons well, but if he does well, I will regret that it wasn't while wearing the Silver and Black.

[SAGirl]

No, the Spurs problem is the Warriors are possibly the most dominant team in NBA history. They were better last year than every other team. Aldridge was solid against Houston. Against the Warriors, it's hard to say much considering two of the top three guard/wing playmakers were out and the defense could key on him. Spurs aren't blowing their load this year knowing full well there was no move that would bring them closer to GS. They're keeping their cap next offseason clean when cap space will be sparse and good deals will be had (think about all the RFA this year who will be signing QOs). Pau is going to be fine at his contract value and will essentially be an expiring with a small cap hit in 2019-20. Mills will be moveable - this is a league where cancer Reggie Jackson is making 40% more than Mills. Simmons would have made the team potentially slightly better this year but had the potential to be a bad deal at the dollars he was willing to sign at before everything hit the fan. He can't shoot and was literally only Manu insurance. Brandon Paul cheap for two years is a much better value. Can you please name a playmaker that was available without gutting the roster? I can't either. Aldridge was great one game that everyone went off, possibly the best game of Simmons' career too, but when the going was tough, he was nowhere to be found. He has no spine. It's not about GSW or anyone else, it's about the changing of the guard. Obviously LMA is nowhere near as good as Tim was and it takes time to adust to that. Just nowhere near the passer, defensively he's solid but no Tim either, and doesn't appear to have the competitive fire Tim had. But ok, aside of him the Spurs stars are too old, any day now it's the end for Tony and Manu. Their production needs to be replaced and it hasn't. I am not arguing for JSimms, I wanted him if he was in a moderate cheap deal. I don't think the deal the Magic got him for was bad actually, but if the contract was the same, he'd rather play somewhere else, and I respect that. He wants a better chance at playing time and opportunities for a bigger role. He said he wasn't going to get that in the Spurs, not like he wanted to and PATFO let him go bc they agreed in all likelihood. JSimms is not a star. As a roleplayer those are guys you can more easily substitute. However, they need a legit star in one of the guard spots IMO. I don't care about the gutting of the roster bc this roster has a tail end past it's expiration date and it's about to fall off any day now. Tony kind of already feel off and we shall see what happens with him, Manu is 40 years old and Lamarcus wants the F out. How can I spell it any more clear? They need to make a move. Spurs organization apparently agrees bc all of LMA, Danny and apparently Dijon have been in trade talks.

[hater]

Hes a dinasour

Along with the mummy of Manu we make for a great circus round 1 exit team

[TD 21]

Spurs aren't blowing their load this year knowing full well there was no move that would bring them closer to GS. They're keeping their cap next offseason clean when cap space will be sparse and good deals will be had (think about all the RFA this year who will be signing QOs). Pau is going to be fine at his contract value and will essentially be an expiring with a small cap hit in 2019-20. Mills will be moveable - this is a league where cancer Reggie Jackson is making 40% more than Mills.

:lmao At either still clinging to this notion that someone is going to salary dump a game changer or insinuating that solid player(s) on a good contract(s) is going to move the needle.

[Capt Bringdown]

Reminds me the shitty teams the FO assembled for much of the Robinson era. Yesterday's Del Negro is today's Patty Mills.
Bringing back Gasol and Manu is pathetic.

[TimDunkem]

^This. Can't wait to watch Mills brick wide open shots in the WCF next year if the Spurs even make it that far.

[cutewizard]

In Pau we trust

To bring his brother here, hahaha

[gambit1990]

$?

[CGD]

$?

Only thing I saw reported elsewhere was that 3rd year was a partial guarantee. Gotta think he got at least another 2M for doing the deal a solid by opting out. I'm guessing at 27m/3yrs.

[BatManu20]

Wtf.

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[Ron Swanson]

ST meltdown incoming.

[cjw]

Only thing I saw reported elsewhere was that 3rd year was a partial guarantee. Gotta think he got at least another 2M for doing the deal a solid by opting out. I'm guessing at 27m/3yrs.

You're off by only $7mm per year

BAD contract

[look_at_g_shred]

Ugh

[bklynspursfan]

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[cd98]

889601791817416704

Whoa.

[TimDunkem]

:bang

[noles1983]

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Jesus Christ so he had before this shitty offseason, one year left at 16 right? Now we have to keep this fucking bum for 3 more years at that rate? What a shitfest this offseason has been. Fucking spurs just cant quit signing old fucks to long contracts.

[tonight...you]

:bang
We need to go burn some shit down Pookie!
Let's burn this shit down!

[Dverde]

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Gasol for the X to block!

[cd98]

Odd. Hopefully it's like 8 million this year, 8 million next year and then 32 million third year partially guaranteed.

[Dverde]

That partial guarantee final season better be for 20 million.

[tonight...you]

I'mma punch the nearest human being approaching me that's not my wife...

[Big Empty]

wtf....wtf is going on with the FO

[PopTheGOAT]

If this shit is evenly split or even close to 16 per... this is the stupidest shit. W...T...F....

[PICK-N-ROLL]

PATFO need to retire and move on.

[jyra]

Odd. Hopefully it's like 8 million this year, 8 million next year and then 32 million third year partially guaranteed.

That's not possible. The max raise/decline for a Non-Bird exception contract is 5%.

[TimDunkem]

http://i.imgur.com/whWhq69.png : "We like what we have and are happy to bring back Pau on a bloated loyalty contract. He's important to us and the culture of this team. He speaks Spanish and has an AARP membership. :nerd"

[tonight...you]

I'mma punch the nearest human being approaching me that's not my wife...

[tholdren]

Got to be more to this

[Jdspur20]

ST meltdown incoming.

[Drewlius]

88 million committed to Gasol & Mills.

[lefty]

I'mma punch the nearest human being approaching me that's not my wife...

I punched your wife tbh

[cd98]

Did he promise them Marc?

[elemento]

RC Black Label :lmao

Most overrated GM in the NBA by far.

[TimDunkem]

88 million committed to Gasol & Mills.
88 million for choking, no defense, but a whole lot of "culture".

:vomit:

[Big Empty]

RC Black Label :lmao

Most overrated GM in the NBA by far.HA HA RC Black Label

[noles1983]

88 million committed to Gasol & Mills.

Hard to laugh at other teams with bad contracts, we have two now. Fucking retarded Spurs. What an abortion of an offseason.

[tholdren]

Hard to laugh at other teams with bad contracts, we have two now. Fucking retarded Spurs. What an abortion of an offseason.

Dont get why anyone likes pau

[Hoops Czar]

Wait until RC hands out those new cookie contracts to Kyle and Tony next offseason. There won't be enough money leftover for a second star let alone a third. Maybe Leonard has already told the franchise He's moving on in 2019.

[Big Empty]

Hard to laugh at other teams with bad contracts, we have two now. Fucking retarded Spurs.

Mills is 28 and 4m a year less. Its bad but not as bad as Gasols. No where NEAR as bad. Hell Tony Parkers contract looks better

[Nathan89]

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This team is fucking done. Fuck that contract.

[TimDunkem]

Mills is 28 and 4m a year less. Its bad but not as bad as Gasols. No where NEAR as bad. Hell Tony Parkers contract looks better
Mills for 4 years IS BAD. He plays no D, can't run an offense despite being a PG, and chokes in the playoffs.

[cd98]

So what is Manu going to get paid? Wait, do I want to know?

[noles1983]

This team must want to move cities, fuck this.

[Nathan89]

Mills contract would be fine if it were just one year shorter which would be easy to move if needed. This is an awful contract.

[TimDunkem]

Wait until RC hands out those new cookie contracts to Kyle and Tony next offseason. There won't be enough money leftover for a second star let alone a third. Maybe Leonard has already told the franchise He's moving on in 2019.I just fucking knew Pau opting out to take less was bullshit, and that they would hand him a loyalty contract anyway. And, like you, just know that Tony and Kyle will get one too.

So what will Tony get everyone? 3 years 30 million?
What about Kyle? 3 years 28 million?

[Nathan89]

This is RJ 2.0. Opt out and get an absurd contract. :bang

[Mugen]

What the fucking fuck tbh

[Big Empty]

I just fucking knew Pau opting out to take less was bullshit, and that they would hand him a loyalty contract anyway. And, like you, just know that Tony and Kyle will get one too.

So what will Tony get everyone? 3 years 30 million?
What about Kyle? 3 years 28 million?

Kawhi is gone in two years. 75% sure

[Leetonidas]

48 million wtf

[noles1983]

Kawhi is gone in two years. 75% sure

Wouldn't blame him. His prime includes teammates Gasol, fathead and Patty fucking Mills?

[TimDunkem]

Kawhi is gone in two years. 75% sure
I really wouldn't blame him. PATFO is content with surrounding him with chokers, old men, and low upside talent.

[noles1983]

Normally old washed up fucks take a discount to play for a contender. Not on the Spurs, they get fucking raises.

[TimDunkem]

Wouldn't blame him. His prime includes teammates Gasol, fathead and Patty fucking Mills?
Don't forget the best guy he has coming off the bench is a guy who will be fucking 41 by the time the season is over.

[r0drig0lac]

Wtf.

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i'm out http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smibang.gif

[cd98]

Every player should hire Gasol's agent.

[noles1983]

This fucking team making it real hard for me to continue to watch next year.

[Hoops Czar]

I just fucking knew Pau opting out to take less was bullshit, and that they would hand him a loyalty contract anyway. And, like you, just know that Tony and Kyle will get one too.

So what will Tony get everyone? 3 years 30 million?
What about Kyle? 3 years 28 million?

What I don't understand is why the fuck did Pau opt out of a 1 year/$16M contact only sign for 3 more years at $16M a year? He could have signed a two year contract for $16M per when his contract ended if that was the plan. Where the fuck is the savings? Where the fuck is the flexibility? He completely destroyed the Spurs cap space for the next three season. Forget partial guarantees, he's gonna see every dime of that contract. What a putrid FO.

[Big Empty]

I really wouldn't blame him. PATFO is content with surrounding him with chokers, old men, and low upside talent. that 16m that's now tied up next year could sign us a nice younger FA next year. smh One year deal ok. But damn 3 years?

[Nathan89]

This contract is so far from reasonable it is beyond comprehension tbh.

[Dverde]

Please tell me there is a third Gasol brother we are trying to lure to SA

[cjw]

I hate the amount in year 2. But they probably think LMA is gone after this year and need a big, but you risk having him fall further off the cliff.

If a minimal guarantee in year 3, could let them trade his contract away and take back salary.

[coachmac87]

Two things could be happening.....

1. There's more tricks up the sleeve...
2. Worst offseason of PATFO..

[eDizzle20]

Awful! I'm speechless.

[noles1983]

Two things could be happening.....

1. There's more tricks up the sleeve...
2. Worst offseason of PATFO..

Option #2 for sure. They have been atrocious.

[Hoops Czar]

Two things could be happening.....

1. There's more tricks up the sleeve...
2. Worst offseason of PATFO..

This front office is one trick ponied out (Tim Duncan).

[TD 21]

:lmao Try as they might, even the apologists can't spin this one. They're going to pay an average of roughly $28.5M for the next 2 seasons, for 2 match-up dependant players, who are virtually unplayable against the teams that matter most.

Before asking him to opt out, why didn't they just say, if they don't do anything significant, they'll essentially give back what he opted out of?

They've either gone senile or are just content with good being good enough. Either way, they keep doing stupid shit, they deserve to lose Leonard.

Just wait until next off season, when Green, Anderson and Bertans are given significant raises, Parker more than expected and if the situation proves irreparable, Aldridge replaced by Favors.

[TimDunkem]

What I don't understand is why the fuck did Pau opt out of a 1 year/$16M contact only sign for 3 more years at $16M a year? He could have signed a two year contract for $16M per when his contract ended if that was the plan. Where the fuck is the savings? Where the fuck is the flexibility? He completely destroyed the Spurs cap space for the next three season. Forget partial guarantees, he's gonna see every dime of that contract. What a putrid FO.
Looks like either that was initially the plan, or never was. Either way, in the end, Pau swooped in like a vulture after the Spurs failed to sign anyone and took as much money as he could.

[SpursFan86]

Holy shit :lmao

[cjw]

:lmao Try as they might, even the apologists can't spin this one. They're going to pay an average of roughly $28.5M for the next 2 years, for 2 match-up dependant players, who are virtually unplayable against the teams that matter most.

Has anyone tried defending it yet?

Maybe RC got snookered into thinking he was signing the best three point shooter in the league, not the guy who had the best percentage in the league in a limited sample size. Ugh

[FkLA]

So essentially this dude opted out so he could add another year where he's overpaid. He didn't sacrifice shit. Makes the MVPaddy contract look like a bargain.

:pctoss:

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

There is no reasonable explanation for this. Unless his agent went back after all the FA bigs were gone and said "we're walking unless you pay us this."

Screwing themselves next summer. $16 million for Pau Gasoft? Somewhere in the Bay Area, the GS front office is laughing their asses off.

[Darius Bieber]

Fuck this shit. I hope Kawhi leaves to teach dumb ass Pop and RC a lesson.

[NASpurs]

:lmao holy shit

[turkish spurs fan]

i am glad pau accepted this amount of money. he deserves 3 year 150 m dolar. great job.

[noles1983]

I would rather have a 12 million dollar lifesize Shaq carboard cutout than this faggot. Unbelievable.

[NASpurs]

All these faggots who suck off Pop and RC need to try and explain this one

[TimDunkem]

Has anyone tried defending it yet?

Maybe RC got snookered into thinking he was signing the best three point shooter in the league, not the guy who had the best percentage in the league in a limited sample size. Ugh


i am glad pau accepted this amount of money. he deserves 3 year 150 m dolar. great job.

[Hoops Czar]

All these faggots who suck off Pop and RC need to try and explain this one

Yeah, whatever happened to Mel_13 anyways?

[Leetonidas]

Maybe the spurs will trade him in a year and half in and get Belinelli back. :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

maybe they thought they were signing Marc Gasol.


fucking idiots... Will be fun seeing Kawhi fuck off this shit boat.

[Nathan89]

Bidding against themselves.:lmao

[SAGirl]

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/7/24/16022460/pau-gasol-re-signs-spurs-three-years-48-million-paycut-nba-free-agency-2017

[NASpurs]

The amount of :downspin: needed to make this contract sound like a good thing would cause the Earth to rotate the other direction. Let's see who's going to bat first.

[noles1983]

Bidding against themselves.:lmao

AGAIN. First Patty now this :lol

[mexicanjunior]

Spurs deserve to have that ostrich fucker tear his ACL in game 1 and get saddled with his shitty contract. PATFO are having the worst offseason in NBA history...

[cjw]

Had Duncan come back for one more year and literally just sat on the bench, Spurs would have been short salary needed for Pau. Would have literally been in the same spot this past year (losing to Warriors in WCF; were beating Houston regardless of Pau) and no worse off going forward.



AGAIN. First Patty now this :lol

Not in the same ballpark. The Spurs were not bidding against themselves with Patty - they overpaid to prevent a Sixers-like stupid offer from robbing him. For Pau, they literally bid against themselves. One year at $16 with a small guarantee in year two would have been enough.

[r0drig0lac]

Dont get why anyone likes pau

[noles1983]

Had Duncan come back for one more year and literally just sat on the bench, Spurs would have been short salary needed for Pau. Would have literally been in the same spot this past year (losing to Warriors in WCF; were beating Houston regardless of Pau) and no worse off going forward.




Not in the same ballpark. The Spurs were not bidding against themselves with Patty - they overpaid to prevent a Sixers-like stupid offer from robbing him. For Pau, they literally bid against themselves. One year at $16 with a small guarantee in year two would have been enough.


A non brain dead FO would let Patty walk. The fucker cant even run an offense, plays no defense and can barely shoot. Like most of our guards.

[Trill Clinton]

Wtf.

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http://www.thecoli.com/media/bischoff-wow.2871/full

[140]

:lmao PATFO

:lmao PATFO fluffers


Porker already counting the dollars of his max contract next year :lol

[DAF86]

The fuck are Pop and Buford doing?

[Hoops Czar]

Even Pounding the rock sounding off.

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2017/7/24/16022526/report-pau-gasol-sign-san-antonio-spurs-contract-16-million-per-year

[TheGreatYacht]

HOLLLLLYYYY SSSSHHHIIITTTTT :lmao

Drunkford was even more senile than I thought :lmao

Cant wait to see the fluffers and pumpers tell me about the "cultura" he brings and how important it is :lmao

[Strategic]

In before the more acceptable contract numbers are revealed. ����

[joeyjfive]

In before the more acceptable contract numbers are revealed. ����

Don't hold your fucking breathe.

[Coasting]

Light-years ahead imo

[marinoman]

The worst deal this offseason by any team tbh. Patty is top 5 as well

[ducks]

the last year could be 24 million right ?
non guaranteed

[noles1983]

Where is that dumb fuck Spurs 4 The Win with his "we have the best GM" schtick?

[RD2191]

WTF? WTF!

[MVPCues]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPNIOAI5eHM

[Spur|n|Austin]

Wow wtf FO???

[TheGreatYacht]

98M to 2 players that can't stay on the floor against the Warriors

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/06/47/04/1732914/4/920x920.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9NwI_LCcAEnP2Y.jpg:large

[TheGreatYacht]

Boycott the games. Only way the Holt family will step in before this Titanic sinks

[apalisoc_9]

RC Black Label :lmao

Most overrated GM in the NBA by far.

Oh you didn't know? RC made kawhi :rolleyes

[BatManu20]

The more I think about it, the less it makes sense. I really don't understand this. It's not like anybody was going to out-bid us... Pau is already, plays no defense, and is clearly on the decline. Locking him up for 3 years makes zero sense, especially when we can't even play him against the one team we're trying to beat in GS. FFS.

[RD2191]

Kawhi loading up the '97 Tahoe bound for Cali as we speak. :lol

[SPURt]

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This is the worst off season since David Robinson put on a Jersey. What kind of garbage deal is this?

[SPURt]

the last year could be 24 million right ?
non guaranteed
one can hope...












But one can be disappointed too

[Hoops Czar]

So what's the cap space looking like next year Chinook

[NASpurs]

98M to 2 players that can't stay on the floor against the Warriors



Not only that, they got raises.

:lol loyalty contracts
:lol PATFO logic
:lol PATFO fluffers nowhere to be seen

[SAGirl]

I just fucking knew Pau opting out to take less was bullshit, and that they would hand him a loyalty contract anyway. And, like you, just know that Tony and Kyle will get one too.

So what will Tony get everyone? 3 years 30 million?
What about Kyle? 3 years 28 million?

Kyle is not in a position of strength next season. He is a RFA and unless he is spectacular next season is going to be in a similar situation to Jamychal Green, JSimms etc. The market for RFA is difficult except for top tier talent. I could see him be gone next season if the Spurs hardball him, same as JSimms.

[BatManu20]

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[ducks]

Boycott the games. Only way the Holt family will step in before this Titanic sinks

tv deal makes more then the people going to games

[Hoops Czar]

Kyle is not in a position of strength next season. He is a RFA and unless he is spectacular next season is going to be in a similar situation to Jamychal Green, JSimms etc. The market for RFA is difficult except for top tier talent. I could see him be gone next season if the Spurs hardball him, same as JSimms.

Kyle Anderson was a draft pick, JSimms was a DLeague scrub who had a good two week burst in the postseason. It would be a shot to the PATFO's ego to just let go of a draft pick that Pop thinks has so much potential and a future in the Association..

[Down Under]

Must be going to Cleveland

[Dverde]

Do not compare this shit to Patty's deal. Patty could have gotten that deal from other teams, it is a tradeable contract down the road...this stuff is next level fail. I expected at worse 35m for 3 years.

[cjw]

Must be going to Cleveland

You can't trade FAs you just signed until December. And why would they want him with Tristan?

[SAGirl]

Two things could be happening.....

1. There's more tricks up the sleeve...
2. Worst offseason of PATFO..

1. I think Lamarcus is gone, either through a trade, or through him opting out next offseason. The Spurs know what is going on with LMA while we can only speculate. Pau is probably in the know, agreed to stay no matter what and projects as the likely starter in that case.

Or option number 2...

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'm shocked. I understand, in theory, the loyalty payments to those players that contributed to a championship while being underpaid, or those players that took less for a long period of time to create cap space, etc., but Gasol has done none of those things. I don't get it.

I'm hoping that he's being bundled with some of our younger, lower-paid talent in a trade scenario and his contract was agreed upon in advance to make the numbers work. Otherwise...I don't get it.

I don't get it.

I don't get it.

I don't get it.

Does not compute.

Does not compute.

foesonr noy vopmuyy............. s.wlowodlvs

[spurraider21]

el nono's only pissed because that's less money for the client

[JR3]

I don't complain a lot on this forum... this is a really bad value. I think we will get the most out of him but if we need bang for buck more re than ever.

[SAGirl]

Kyle Anderson was a draft pick, JSimms was a DLeague scrub who had a good two week burst in the postseason. It would be a shot to the PATFO's ego to just let go of a draft pick that Pop thinks has so much potential and a future in the Association..

It really could go either way. If he plays well, he could also be gone CoJo style. He gets an offer from some team that likes him and Spurs let him go. Of course if he does play well and Kyle ends up playing a lot of minutes for a reasonably good team next season, the Spurs will keep him I am guessing. Davis Bertans and Bryn Forbes are in the same situation. It really depends what kind of season they have and also, what kind of team Pop and RC are going to be fielding. Rudy Gay has been limping and looking awfully unbursty. It's possible Kyle does end up playing a lot more minutes next season.

[Dverde]

I'm shocked. I understand, in theory, the loyalty payments to those players that contributed to a championship while being underpaid, or those players that took less for a long period of time to create cap space, etc., but Gasol has done none of those things. I don't get it.

I'm hoping that he's being bundled with some of our younger, lower-paid talent in a trade scenario and his contract was agreed upon in advance to make the numbers work. Otherwise...I don't get it.

I don't get it.

I don't get it.

I don't get it.

Does not compute.

Does not compute.

foesonr noy vopmuyy............. s.wlowodlvs

Since he opted out, he cannot be traded until he middle of the season. Just wait for the meltdown when ST discovers the no trade clause

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Since he opted out, he cannot be traded until he middle of the season. Just wait for the meltdown when ST discovers the no trade clause

This is very easily the worst signing in Spurs history.

[NASpurs]

Only thing I can think of otherwise holy shit.



To qualify for a sign-and-trade, all of the following must be true:

The player must re-sign with his prior team -- a team cannot include another team's free agent in a sign-and-trade.
The player must finish the preceding season with that team (deals are no longer allowed that sign-and-trade players who are out of the league, such as the sign-and-trade that sent Keith Van Horn from Dallas to New Jersey as part of the Jason Kidd trade in 2008).
The player cannot be a restricted free agent who has signed an offer sheet with another team (see question number 42 (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q42)).
The team receiving the player cannot be above the "Apron" (see question number 20 (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q20)) at the conclusion of the trade1, 2. A team above the Apron can receive a player in a sign-and-trade if the trade reduces the team's payroll and the team finishes the trade below the Apron.
The team cannot receive a player in a sign-and-trade if they have used the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception (see question number 25 (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25)) that season.1
The trade must be completed prior to the first game of the regular season (sign-and-trades are not allowed once the season begins).
The player cannot be signed using the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, the Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, or any exception that cannot be used to offer a three-year contract (see question number 25 (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25)).

A sign-and-trade deal can be made with a free agent who has been renounced (see question number 39 (http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q39)), as long as all the above criteria are met. Sign-and-trade contracts must be for at least three seasons (not including any option year) and no longer than four seasons3. The first year of the contract must be fully guaranteed, but the remaining seasons can be non-guaranteed.

[BatManu20]

He's not going anywhere..

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[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Tim Duncan payroll:

Age 37: $10,361,446.
Age 38: $10,000,000.
Age 39: $5,000,000.



Pau Gasol payroll:

Age 37: $16M
Age 38: $16M
Age 39: $16M (partially guaranteed)







Does not compute.

Does not compute.

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[Mal]

Are you fucking kidding me ? He opted of 16 mil to get 3x16....
Next offseason - oh Spurs have a lot of cap space... Parker 45/3, Anderson 21/3...

[Mnky]

I'm not really understanding this either. Pau fits today's game If he is willing to shoot, but the guy got cold feet in the playoffs. You really cant replace a great shooter with any other attribute, but he didnt didn't show up when it was needed.

I just cant make too much sense of this right now. See what the details are. May be he gets front loaded guaranteed money and then they release him later or something, since the rest of our money isn't going anywhere either way. Might as well pay him for opting out in case we made a run at a player.

Doesn't hurt us now, but the details on yhe other two years will be questionable for sure

[Nathan89]

Are you fucking kidding me ? He opted of 16 mil to get 3x16....
Next offseason - oh Spurs have a lot of cap space... Parker 45/3, Anderson 21/3...

That's a good deal for Anderson.

[TheGreatYacht]

Update the title Slomo

[Eaglenole2002]

Any chance the final year is inflated with a max year to use as a trade piece since it's only partially guaranteed?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Any chance the final year is inflated with a max year to use as a trade piece since it's only partially guaranteed?

I hope there's more to the deal than is currently being disclosed.

[ducks]

Update the title Slomo
why no proof right now how much is not guaranteed

[loveforthegame]

JFC. I was hoping it was a joke.

[Big Empty]

SMH