LMAO Strawberry Pickers

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs7TCzdnUJQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUPOE9AOlwo

[dfens]

next up, now that usa won the cup how do they prepare for the next world cup (in russia) ? will the us have tough refs? will trump call putin? I got a feeling them boys in blue are gonna prove the ruskies wrong and play inspired football. Last time we got out of the groups now its time to win it all.

[Spurtacular]

next up, now that usa won the cup

US haven't won the cup. They're in the final this Wednesday against Jamaica.

[dfens]

US haven't won the cup. They're in the final this Wednesday against Jamaica.

I was sarcastically saying what the US media is going to discuss after they beat Jamaica..

[Spurtacular]

I was sarcastically saying what the US media is going to discuss after they beat Jamaica..

I see. Well, I would put the US as heavy favorites; but I wouldn't count those chickens yet.

[TheGreatYacht]

It's the C-team. Mexico's A & B teams were in Moscow last month :lol

US of Gay calling their First team players after the group stage in a pub tourney lmfao

[Spurtacular]

It's the C-team. Mexico's A & B teams were in Moscow last month :lol

US of Gay calling their First team players after the group stage in a pub tourney lmfao

The difference between Mexico's 'C-Team' and their 'A-Team' is razor thin, tbh.

And US have lost two straight Gold Cups and missed the Confed Cup and are only in third in WCQ cos of Jurgen Klinsmann's ineptitude. It's good that they're taking it seriously.

[Spurtacular]

It's the C-team. Mexico's A & B teams were in Moscow last month :lol

US of Gay calling their First team players after the group stage in a pub tourney lmfao

I guess you missed the part where Jamaica left their A-players at home? And United States of Gay? What lame country you from, faggot?

[140]

Wtf is a gold cup tbh :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

I guess you missed the part where Jamaica left their A-players at home? And United States of Gay? What lame country you from, faggot?
Except they didn't hick. Mexico would sleepwalk to the title with their A-team as evident in the last 2 tourneys.

Even with home field advantage the US of Gay doesn't come close :lol even with them scheduling the Gold Cup during the Copa America and Confederations, which Mexico participates in.

[Spurtacular]

Except they didn't hick. Mexico would sleepwalk to the title with their A-team as evident in the last 2 tourneys.

Even with home field advantage the US of Gay doesn't come close :lol even with them scheduling the Gold Cup during the Copa America and Confederations, which Mexico participates in.

How many chromosomes are you missing? Those cups were well over by the start of GC. And Mexico was allowed to put six new players in for the knockout round even if they did leave anyone at home to rest. You from Mexico, then? You sound like a lame apologist even by their low standards.

And Mexico sucked at Confeds; Germany C-Team kicking their asses, 4-1 :lmao

You in full denial, brah. You don't get your ass kicked that badly and then act up. Take your medicine, bitch. You ain't even gonna be at 2021 Confed Cup.

[dfens]

Wtf is a gold cup tbh :lol

son you gotta start somewhere, right? :lol

[Spurtacular]

TheGreatStrawberryPicker: Mexico tanking as to not be embarrassed in another Confed Cup.

https://media.giphy.com/media/OdA9mpL6YqNjO/giphy.gif

[dfens]

I guess you missed the part where Jamaica left their A-players at home? And United States of Gay? What lame country you from, faggot?

damn, honestly didn't know jamaica can field two teams :wow

[Spurtacular]

damn, honestly didn't know jamaica can field two teams :wow

Actually, I was taking some poetic liberty. They did apparently leave a few proven vets home in favor of some younger players. The general consensus is that they were worse for it. They may have did it differently if they knew they were going to make the final.

[Spurtacular]

TheGreatYacht


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7VOsKuQUb8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCIUf8eYPqA

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Dempsey is m'fing brilliant! Way better than that poacher Hernandez...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLFoWjWxbqw

[Spurtacular]

Nice Fan Cam shot:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMB6PclqOL4

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyNJBkRbBCs

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cEHwcvj7LM

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:lmao Paper Tigers

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Mexico's Hero :lol

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG40Fl_8qE0

:lol Jose Hernandez wondo'ing the ball over the crossbar.

[Phenomanul]

You're barking up the wrong tree Spurtacular...

Besides, winning this Gold Cup doesn't confer qualification for the next Confederations Cup -> that distinction goes to the winner of the 2019 Gold Cup.

That's usually why Mexico decides to bring their A-Squad only for the Gold Cup tournaments that confer those berths. The 2017 Edition did not.

[Spurtacular]

You're barking up the wrong tree Spurtacular...

Besides, winning this Gold Cup doesn't confer qualification for the next Confederations Cup -> that distinction goes to the winner of the 2019 Gold Cup.

That's usually why Mexico decides to bring their A-Squad only for the Gold Cup tournaments that confer those berths. The 2017 Edition did not.

Wrong. The 2021 Concacaf Confed Cup representative goes to the winnner of a playoff between 2017 and 2019 GC winners. Maybe, you thought the second winner got the nod b/c you figured that's what happened with Mexico. But in reality, they won in 13 and 15 and no playoff was necessary. And Mexico was so demoralized after being spanked by Germany that they're doing their best to not qualify for another ass kicking. :lol

[Spurtacular]

That's usually why Mexico decides to bring their A-Squad only for the Gold Cup tournaments that confer those berths. The 2017 Edition did not.

:lmao Mexico's "A-squad" isn't even an A-squad. After their best overseas club players were failing to qualify for the last WC, they brought in a coach, who brought in the domestic schlubs to try and get the job done. They didn't even do that, really. San Zusi had to bail their asses out!

[dfens]

:lmao Mexico's "A-squad" isn't even an A-squad. After their best overseas club players were failing to qualify for the last WC, they brought in a coach, who brought in the domestic schlubs to try and get the job done. They didn't even do that, really. San Zusi had to bail their asses out!

son you've got a lot of enthusiasm in this thread tbh. still mexico >> usa in terms of football, even if they're in a complete meltdown these days. it's just how it is tbh.

[140]

Strawberry pickers forever

[Spurtacular]

son you've got a lot of enthusiasm in this thread tbh. still mexico >> usa in terms of football, even if they're in a complete meltdown these days. it's just how it is tbh.

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http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/america_celebrating.gif

[pgardn]

son you've got a lot of enthusiasm in this thread tbh. still mexico >> usa in terms of football, even if they're in a complete meltdown these days. it's just how it is tbh.

It is.

Except when they play each other.

[Spurtacular]

USMNT have the bragging rights. They f'ing eliminated Mexico at 02 WC and later qualified for Mexico for 14 WC by proxy. :lmao

[Phenomanul]

Which is why the US doesn't want the Gokd Cup played in Mexico... fear. Almost every edition is played on US soil... the FMF still take in the dough but still, it goes to show who the strongest NT is in CONCACAF...

[Spurtacular]

Which is why the US doesn't want the Gokd Cup played in Mexico... fear. Almost every edition is played on US soil... the FMF still take in the dough but still, it goes to show who the strongest NT is in CONCACAF...

Doesn't matter. All the teams want the Gold Cup played in the US so they can get paid. You think the Mexicans don't want their fat stacks?

[Phenomanul]

Doesn't matter. All the teams want the Gold Cup played in the US so they can get paid. You think the Mexicans don't want their fat stacks?

Mexican NT doesn't need money. The Cartels are "fans" as well and funnel all sorts of monies in their direction. NOT proud of that obviously, but stating a known (and well documented) fact.

[dfens]

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USMNT have the bragging rights. They f'ing eliminated Mexico at 02 WC and later qualified for Mexico for 14 WC by proxy. :lmao

sorry to kill your parade and all but mexico does play better football even if head to head they do worse. The overall quality of their game >>> us's quality. I am a fan of neither team.


It is.
Except when they play each other.

in the long run (world cups) it matters little. Mexico are better at playing football and are a tougher team to play against. They're just inconsistent and mentally weak but they are a far better team overall.

[Phenomanul]

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One of the reasons why the U.S. has had that run of success in Columbus Ohio happens to line up with Jack Warner's rise to power within CONCACAF and who he surrounded himself within its upper circle. Even though Mexico is historically the region's "football giant" the FMF and CONCACAF have seemingly always been at odds with each other since Jack Warner took the helm. The doping scandals (that were later rescinded but caused turmoil against Mexican players prior to the 2011 Gold Cup tournament, etc...)

The format for CONCACAF WC qualifiers was restructured prior to the 2002 WC qualification phase. What are the odds that all of the Hexagonal matches between the U.S. and Mexico have ALWAYS lined up to set the match in Columbus in the dead set of winter? Think about it. The US/Mexico game in the final phase is always scheduled in Nov, Dec, or Jan. The CONCACAF committee sets the dates and always gives the US that singular advantage. It seems like the pattern is repeating under Alfredo Hawit. I remember the FMF protested the schedule prior to the WC in 2006 and CONCACAF literally told Mexico, "screw you, we're in charge here - not you".

Do you believe this year's edition will yield the same result? I don't know.

I do subscribe to the belief that Mexican NT footballers are mentally weak and somehow can't overcome playing in 20 degree weather. It's like a Pavlovian effect at this point.

[Spurtacular]

Mexican NT doesn't need money. The Cartels are "fans" as well and funnel all sorts of monies in their direction. NOT proud of that obviously, but stating a known (and well documented) fact.

You underestimate the power of greed. But even if I took what you said at face value; the Mexicans would have no problem getting the Gold Cup to Mexico if they wanted it. So, what's the reason they don't want it if not the money? Reality is it's the money. And in many cases, they're getting venues where they have essentially a home field advantage, anyways. Also, imo, if they started playing too many games in Mexico, other teams would start getting comfortable and they'd start to lose their edge. In recent years this has been a creeping problem as it is.

[Spurtacular]

sorry to kill your parade and all but mexico does play better football even if head to head they do worse. The overall quality of their game >>> us's quality. I am a fan of neither team.



in the long run (world cups) it matters little. Mexico are better at playing football and are a tougher team to play against. They're just inconsistent and mentally weak but they are a far better team overall.

Yea, if you count all that sh** before 1990 that really doesn't matter a whole lot. And even in the olden days when the US had no use for soccer, we were still sneakin' some wins in.

I don't know what your metric is for "tougher". Frankly, the results don't seem to make the case you're making. Yea, the US was a bit discombobulated at the end of the Klinsmann era when the players wanted him gone and Mexico was on a nice run; but peaks and valleys is reality for pretty much everyone besides Germany. Head to head, Mexico has traditionally been the better possession team; but the US has been great about scoring against the run of play.

And if we're to just look at it from right now, I don't see great potential for Mexico going forward. For me, they've peaked. Whereas, the US has some great young talent on the rise and mixing them with some of the vets; let's just say if they can get the chemistry right by the World Cup, this could be the most exciting team since 02 and maybe surpass that team. Of course, the worry is that they don't and it's more like 98 or 06.

[Spurtacular]

One of the reasons why the U.S. has had that run of success in Columbus Ohio happens to line up with Jack Warner's rise to power within CONCACAF and who he surrounded himself within its upper circle. Even though Mexico is historically the region's "football giant" the FMF and CONCACAF have seemingly always been at odds with each other since Jack Warner took the helm. The doping scandals (that were later rescinded but caused turmoil against Mexican players prior to the 2011 Gold Cup tournament, etc...)

The format for CONCACAF WC qualifiers was restructured prior to the 2002 WC qualification phase. What are the odds that all of the Hexagonal matches between the U.S. and Mexico have ALWAYS lined up to set the match in Columbus in the dead set of winter? Think about it. The US/Mexico game in the final phase is always scheduled in Nov, Dec, or Jan. The CONCACAF committee sets the dates and always gives the US that singular advantage. It seems like the pattern is repeating under Alfredo Hawit. I remember the FMF protested the schedule prior to the WC in 2006 and CONCACAF literally told Mexico, "screw you, we're in charge here - not you".

Do you believe this year's edition will yield the same result? I don't know.

I do subscribe to the belief that Mexican NT footballers are mentally weak and somehow can't overcome playing in 20 degree weather. It's like a Pavlovian effect at this point.

I would never doubt the politics you mention. And you're probably on the money on this one. But let's not pretend it doesn't go both ways. For decades, before the modern age of social media scrutiny, referees at Azteca were basically Mexico's 13th man because they valued their own lives over a soccer game. This made winning there next to impossible.

As for the Hex this time around, the US got the treatment if anything. They had to open at home against Mexico when they were in a state of turmoil; and then we had to go down to Coasta Rica when they were peaking. The committee basically saddled us with two L's. No excuses, we shot our own foot with Klinsmann; but I am pointing out that clearly we don't always get the best schedule. Maybe, if we do have that much power, this was done to finally shove Klinsmann out the door. But given how much money we were on the hook for him and how ridiculously loyal our president was to him, I have my doubts about that (And no "giant" is for sure going to dig out of a two loss hole in the Hex).

[Spurtacular]

I do subscribe to the belief that Mexican NT footballers are mentally weak and somehow can't overcome playing in 20 degree weather. It's like a Pavlovian effect at this point.

The problem is that you rely on skill and cohesion, but the athleticism simply isn't there. When you start throwing monkey wrenches, it breaks down.

[dfens]

Yea, if you count all that sh** before 1990 that really doesn't matter a whole lot. And even in the olden days when the US had no use for soccer, we were still sneakin' some wins in.

I don't know what your metric is for "tougher". Frankly, the results don't seem to make the case you're making. Yea, the US was a bit discombobulated at the end of the Klinsmann era when the players wanted him gone and Mexico was on a nice run; but peaks and valleys is reality for pretty much everyone besides Germany. Head to head, Mexico has traditionally been the better possession team; but the US has been great about scoring against the run of play.

And if we're to just look at it from right now, I don't see great potential for Mexico going forward. For me, they've peaked. Whereas, the US has some great young talent on the rise and mixing them with some of the vets; let's just say if they can get the chemistry right by the World Cup, this could be the most exciting team since 02 and maybe surpass that team. Of course, the worry is that they don't and it's more like 98 or 06.

son this football game is a bit more complicated then talent. What mexico has over the us isn't just consistent talent production, it has the institution of football strongly ingrained in the population. It is a football cultivated country, hence even with bad coaches and a the NT in disarray you see creative, tactically astute play. You see one-twos, you see shifting formations, you see high quality players pop up once in a while (e.g. marquez) and you see very strong games vs tough teams in competitive environments. You see a team playing football not just parking the bus and hoping for a miracle (so american..).

US has produced some results but it's always the same kick and run, and that is guaranteed to produce nothing but cheap thrills in the long term, and also a culture of bigger stronger faster that is inflicted both upon the NT and the fans. The american fans can't appreciate the tension and tactical back on fourth of a 0-0, they're just uneducated. A great american generation will get trounced by a contender in the quarter finals, best case scenario for kick and run teams, because they can't and don't play constructive football, they just try to destroy the game and only run and jump on the pitch, they rarely move without the ball, rarely put tactical pressure, rarely use positional play, etc. They just play an inferior game and the us is a perfect example. The best possible USA outcome is to be England (talented team but still kick and run) who with all that talent still hasn't done and won't do shit because they play a primitive brand of football.

Long term Mexico's prospects are far better imo, once they hit a truly talented generation they might win some relevant silverware like copa america with a decent coach and some stability. It isn't easy but at least the foundation is set, they play football and not kick and run.

[Spurtacular]

son this football game is a bit more complicated then talent. What mexico has over the us isn't just consistent talent production, it has the institution of football strongly ingrained in the population. It is a football cultivated country, hence even with bad coaches and a the NT in disarray you see creative, tactically astute play. You see one-twos, you see shifting formations, you see high quality players pop up once in a while (e.g. marquez) and you see very strong games vs tough teams in competitive environments. You see a team playing football not just parking the bus and hoping for a miracle (so american..).

US has produced some results but it's always the same kick and run, and that is guaranteed to produce nothing but cheap thrills in the long term, and also a culture of bigger stronger faster that is inflicted both upon the NT and the fans. The american fans can't appreciate the tension and tactical back on fourth of a 0-0, they're just uneducated. A great american generation will get trounced by a contender in the quarter finals, best case scenario for kick and run teams, because they can't and don't play constructive football, they just try to destroy the game and only run and jump on the pitch, they rarely move without the ball, rarely put tactical pressure, rarely use positional play, etc. They just play an inferior game and the us is a perfect example. The best possible USA outcome is to be England (talented team but still kick and run) who with all that talent still hasn't done and won't do shit because they play a primitive brand of football.

Long term Mexico's prospects are far better imo, once they hit a truly talented generation they might win some relevant silverware like copa america with a decent coach and some stability. It isn't easy but at least the foundation is set, they play football and not kick and run.

I agree that institutionally and perhaps more importantly, culturally, Mexico has had a strong advantage. Never said that wasn't the case. You guys obviously need that given there's no other way you'd be better than the US where the athleticism superior.

And yes, Mexico has been the better possession team; but the fact that Jose Hernandez (Lil Chris Wondo) has been your best finisher is indicative of your lack of athleticism to bridge the gap in the final third.

True, kick and run has been the problem at times. Though, it's overstated. The 02 team was great at ball movement, though we had some issue against Portugal and Germany; but our ability to bunker was an asset nonetheless. The 10 and 14 teams fell into that at times, but there's no denying that the impact of MLS has progressed our ability in that regard. I'd like to see an emphasis on composure going forward, and I saw signs of that in the recent Gold Cup.

As for England, don't get me started on them. They all but wasted the David Beckham years. They didn't realize what they had 'til it was too late.

[dfens]

I agree that institutionally and perhaps more importantly, culturally, Mexico has had a strong advantage. Never said that wasn't the case. You guys obviously need that given there's no other way you'd be better than the US where the athleticism superior.

And yes, Mexico has been the better possession team; but the fact that Jose Hernandez (Lil Chris Wondo) has been your best finisher is indicative of your lack of athleticism to bridge the gap in the final third.

True, kick and run has been the problem at times. Though, it's overstated. The 02 team was great at ball movement, though we had some issue against Portugal and Germany; but our ability to bunker was an asset nonetheless. The 10 and 14 teams fell into that at times, but there's no denying that the impact of MLS has progressed our ability in that regard. I'd like to see an emphasis on composure going forward, and I saw signs of that in the recent Gold Cup.

As for England, don't get me started on them. They all but wasted the David Beckham years. They didn't realize what they had 'til it was too late.

1. Son, I'm German tbh, I have no ties to Mexico.
2. The US never had ball movement, maybe against random Carribean countries but against strong teams they never had one.
3. MLS isn't teaching you good football, it's teaching you bigger stronger faster and star power .. the whole footballing world has gone from bigger stronger faster since the late 80s and from star power (at NT level) since '06. MLS is great because it increases awareness and brings in some big names but quality wise it isn't something great long term.
4. David Beckham :lmao if they wasted somebody they wasted paul scholes and the entire backbone created by fergie at manchester with some talented extra pieces like hargraves and owen, that's what they wasted. Beckham is just a pretty boy, he was at best the 4th most important player on that manchester team after keane/scholes/giggs.
5. Athleticism is completely overrated in football, just look at Germany/Spain/Italy/Argentina. Skills + teamwork + intelligence >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else in football. Nigeria/Ghana/Ivory Coast/Cameroon are just nobodies. France can't win at home with amazing athleticism/talent/crowd/refs/skills/etc because they couldn't work together in a tough situation.

[Phenomanul]

I agree that institutionally and perhaps more importantly, culturally, Mexico has had a strong advantage. Never said that wasn't the case. You guys obviously need that given there's no other way you'd be better than the US where the athleticism superior.

And yes, Mexico has been the better possession team; but the fact that Jose Hernandez [Javier Hernández] (Lil Chris Wondo) has been your best finisher is indicative of your lack of athleticism to bridge the gap in the final third.

True, kick and run has been the problem at times. Though, it's overstated. The 02 team was great at ball movement, though we had some issue against Portugal and Germany; but our ability to bunker was an asset nonetheless. The 10 and 14 teams fell into that at times, but there's no denying that the impact of MLS has progressed our ability in that regard. I'd like to see an emphasis on composure going forward, and I saw signs of that in the recent Gold Cup.

As for England, don't get me started on them. They all but wasted the David Beckham years. They didn't realize what they had 'til it was too late.

And yet in the South African WC he was clocked as the fastest player with the ball and off the ball... back when they started using cameras for sports metrics...

Literally what the U.S. has that Mexico doesn't is better genes... stronger players, taller players, faster players... unfortunately there isn't a gene for footballing vision. On that level Mexico's prowess dwarfs the talent of their U.S. counterparts with the possible exception of Dempsey and Bradley...

Mexico has won the FIFA Confederations Cup, along with an Olympic Gold (after pros were allowed to play). They have more hardware than you are willing to admit. Also, they still have more Gold Cup Titles than the U.S. (even with the recent U.S. win).

As for the Copa America, in 10 participations they have come in as runner-ups on two occasions and placed 3rd in 3 others. The best the U.S. has placed is 4th.

Not even counting what they've achieved in the younger divisions... U21, U20, U19, U17 and U15

[Spurtacular]

And yet in the South African WC he was clocked as the fastest player with the ball and off the ball... back when they started using cameras for sports metrics...



So, that stat must be the basketball plus/minus equivalent in soccer. Cos Hernandez is not that much of a burner; no fucking way. But if he's the Patty Mills of soccer and much faster than one would think, then maybe. Though, it's seven years later, so I doubt he's that fast any more, anyways. He's certainly not gonna pull something like this.

He's certainly never been at this level; EVER.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPxcVioyQk

[Spurtacular]

Literally what the U.S. has that Mexico doesn't is better genes... stronger players, taller players, faster players... unfortunately there isn't a gene for footballing vision. On that level Mexico's prowess dwarfs the talent of their U.S. counterparts with the possible exception of Dempsey and Bradley...



Mexico is better at possession. This is something the US must work on. They also tend to be better at high ball pressure after the fact. This isn't a strategy suited to Dempsey/Altidorre. You play to your strengths, not your weaknesses. I'm encouraged by the emergence of guys like Nagby/Acosta who have good ball control as well as Pulisic and Morris who can apply pressure.

[Spurtacular]

Mexico has won the FIFA Confederations Cup, along with an Olympic Gold (after pros were allowed to play). They have more hardware than you are willing to admit. Also, they still have more Gold Cup Titles than the U.S. (even with the recent U.S. win).

As for the Copa America, in 10 participations they have come in as runner-ups on two occasions and placed 3rd in 3 others. The best the U.S. has placed is 4th.

Not even counting what they've achieved in the younger divisions... U21, U20, U19, U17 and U15

Olympics is a crap shoot in which only three pros from each squad even compete. It's daffy and counts for nothing as far as I'm concerned, other than some short term vibes and optimism.

Mexico playing a 99 Confed Cup in Mexico in a non WC year means that much? I wouldn't say it's more impressive than USA dumping the would-be 10 WC winners Spain in the semis and then going up on Brazil 2-0. The Confed Cup means something now that it's every four years and as a prelude to the WC in the same country. What Mexico did was one click above exhibition; and it's practically ancient history.

As for Copa, I'm not comparing USA to Mex on that long an arch. Just saying that over the last two decades, it's been pretty clear that USA is one of two CONCACAF giants; and other than the choke in the 11 WC (played in Mexico Jr. Rose Bowl), the USA has pretty well got the better of the meaningful games.

Yea, I wouldn't count what's been achieved in U-whatever. That's fun and all if you want to pay attention to it; but it's like bragging about how a team's farm system is doing.

[Spurtacular]

1. Son, I'm German tbh, I have no ties to Mexico.


1. Then you know full well how inept Mexico is against top ten competition. :lmao

* Destroyed in 7 minutes :lmao Getting the Brazil treatment :lmao
* Lil Wondo wondo'ing the ball over the crossbar :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG40Fl_8qE0

[Spurtacular]

2. The US never had ball movement, maybe against random Carribean countries but against strong teams they never had one.


BS; the ball movement against Germany even in 02 was pretty dang good. And it took cheating for you guys to pull that one out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg3psAYfOv8

[Spurtacular]

3. MLS isn't teaching you good football, it's teaching you bigger stronger faster and star power .. the whole footballing world has gone from bigger stronger faster since the late 80s and from star power (at NT level) since '06. MLS is great because it increases awareness and brings in some big names but quality wise it isn't something great long term.


It's pretty obvious from your assessment that you don't watch MLS. MLS is not about bigger, stronger, faster. That's what Euroball is (and I'm not saying that's bad). MLS is great for teaching fundamentals and cohesion and it has been very important in increasing the level of play or otherwise sustaining it. That said, I still consider MLS to be not a great league, and I prefer our players play in the premier league.

[Spurtacular]

4. David Beckham :lmao if they wasted somebody they wasted paul scholes and the entire backbone created by fergie at manchester with some talented extra pieces like hargraves and owen, that's what they wasted. Beckham is just a pretty boy, he was at best the 4th most important player on that manchester team after keane/scholes/giggs.


Uppity know-it-alls love to put down Beckham or diminish him. Dude creates great scoring chances on great balls like nobody else ever. The only one I put in his stratosphere for that is Pirlo. And saying Giggs or the other two > Beckham. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

5. Athleticism is completely overrated in football, just look at Germany/Spain/Italy/Argentina. Skills + teamwork + intelligence >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else in football. Nigeria/Ghana/Ivory Coast/Cameroon are just nobodies. France can't win at home with amazing athleticism/talent/crowd/refs/skills/etc because they couldn't work together in a tough situation.

Hardly. When US reached the Copa semi against Argentina, the difference in physical prowess was quite telling (and it's because their best athletes (minus Manu Ginobili) play soccer and ours' play anything but). And you're confusing speed with athleticism. Those African countries don't necessarily have any more athleticism than those you listed. And they do often lack simple intelligence, so you're right about that.

[dfens]

First you argue like that little boy midnightwhatever. :lmao


1. Then you know full well how inept Mexico is against top ten competition. :lmao
* Destroyed in 7 minutes :lmao Getting the Brazil treatment :lmao
* Lil Wondo wondo'ing the ball over the crossbar :lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG40Fl_8qE0
everybody loses badly once in a while, it's just one game vs decades of consistent work. You think brasil are done because 7-1, these niggas will bounce back.


BS; the ball movement against Germany even in 02 was pretty dang good. And it took cheating for you guys to pull that one out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg3psAYfOv8
Son, ball movment isn't just passing the ball around, it's about controlling pace and shifting pressure around the pitch.



It's pretty obvious from your assessment that you don't watch MLS. MLS is not about bigger, stronger, faster. That's what Euroball is (and I'm not saying that's bad). MLS is great for teaching fundamentals and cohesion and it has been very important in increasing the level of play or otherwise sustaining it. That said, I still consider MLS to be not a great league, and I prefer our players play in the premier league.
Euroball about bigger stronger faster :lmao:lmao you've been a football fan for what, 2 whole years? nobody can take you seriously after such a transgression tbh


Uppity know-it-alls love to put down Beckham or diminish him. Dude creates great scoring chances on great balls like nobody else ever. The only one I put in his stratosphere for that is Pirlo. And saying Giggs or the other two > Beckham. :lmao
:lmao:lmao this has to be a troll. Son, Beckham is was tony parker level player and even he knew it.


Hardly. When US reached the Copa semi against Argentina, the difference in physical prowess was quite telling (and it's because their best athletes (minus Manu Ginobili) play soccer and ours' play anything but). And you're confusing speed with athleticism. Those African countries don't necessarily have any more athleticism than those you listed. And they do often lack simple intelligence, so you're right about that.
I'll reiterate it for you, football isn't much about physical gifts. They are good but top players are top because of skills and intelligence. This isn't basketball.



TBH you have no clue about this sport, just an objective assessment. Imo you could be somebody's troll but I'm too lazy for that game. Anyway, your takes are :lmao tbh.

[Phenomanul]

So, that stat must be the basketball plus/minus equivalent in soccer. Cos Hernandez is not that much of a burner; no fucking way. But if he's the Patty Mills of soccer and much faster than one would think, then maybe. Though, it's seven years later, so I doubt he's that fast any more, anyways. He's certainly not gonna pull something like this.

He's certainly never been at this level; EVER.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPxcVioyQk

It's laughable that you are trying to equate SPEED to some esoteric advanced metric that has no sensical equivalent in soccer. SPEED is a DIRECT measurement, it cannot be faked...

I had already conceded that generally U.S. players are stronger, faster and more powerful than Mexican footballers, but your attempt to use Javier Hernandez as the poster boy for your argument was a weak one and somewhat ironic.

http://www.sport.co.uk/football/javier-hernandez-the-world-cups-fastest-player/41092

Of course, I know you will just waive your hands and ignore your error rather than admit you are painting with a very BROAD brush.

The Mexican National Team has made it out of the group stage in every World Cup tournament since 1994 - a feat which places them amongst the World's Top 16 teams for 23 years running. Technically, the run would be longer considering they reached the quarter-finals in 1986 and had an even stronger squad in 1990 with Hugo Sanchez at the height of his powers, but Mexico was banned from participating in the 1990 WC in Italy because over age players were used at a U20 qualifying tournament in 1988 (the Cachirules scandal). This is the primary reason why Hugo Sanchez's relation with the FMF has been forever strained. And why he is on record saying that he will NEVER forgive them for that.

I could go on further and claim that said scandal was the primary factor that allowed the USMNT to even qualify for the 1990 WC in Italy given that they earned their qualification in the very last match - a berth that would've - given the gap at that time - gone to Mexico (had they not been banned). The worst part of it all, was that the scandal was driven by a subset of representatives in the FMF and was not condoned by the FMF at large - in other words, rogue directives working deceitfully on their own accord shamed the nation and unknowingly catalyzed the rebirth of U.S. Soccer. I once relayed this observation to Eric Wynalda, member of that 1990 U.S. Squad that played in Italy (while he was playing in F.C. León) and he just shrugged his shoulders and said, "I hadn't thought about it that way, but it's true..."

As for your attempts to brush off Mexico's footballing hardware - you're grasping at straws. The reality is that the U.S. hasn't won anything other than Gold Cups. Zero, Nada, Nothing, Zilch... So you trying to place qualifiers to discredit Mexico's hardware comes off as nothing more than saltiness. I mean come on, how much more offensive can you get, creating a disdainful and xenophobic thread title just to belittle Mexicans? Again, it's laughable and comes off as mere saltiness. Keep celebrating your "Dos a Cero" days... and living in a fantasy land where U.S. Soccer is seen in greater light than Mexican soccer. The Mexican Primera División is arguably top 9th or 10th league in the world... the money is certainly there.

Spanish La Liga
German Bundesliga
English Premier League
Italian Serie A [*Top 4 leagues are interchangeable any given year]

followed by:
French Ligue 1
Dutch Eredivisie
Portuguese La Liga

Futebol Brasileiro
Mexican Liga MX
Primera División de Argentina
Turkish 1st Division [these 4 leagues are interchangeable any given year]

Russian First Division
Polish League
Scottish Premier League
etc...

about 5 more leagues... then

Major League Soccer

Within the region you claim the U.S. is officially a "giant" in, MLS has obtained exactly 2 titles in the CONCACAF Champions League tournament. Compare that to 33 titles for Mexican League teams, 6 titles for Costa Rican teams, and 3 titles for El Salvadorian teams... MLS is tied with Trinidad and Tobago, Surinam, Guatemala and Honduras. Since the MLS was created in 1996, Mexican teams have taken the CONCACAF Champions League title 15 times (including the last 12 consecutive titles with 9 of those finals matches disputed between 2 Mexican teams). But yeah, let's all believe that strength, power, and speed are the determinant factors in producing effective or quality football. Can MLS matches be exciting? Certainly, but they aren't played at the same level as matches in Mexico.

[dfens]

It's laughable that you are trying to equate SPEED to some esoteric advanced metric that has no sensical equivalent in soccer. SPEED is a DIRECT measurement, it cannot be faked...

I had already conceded that generally U.S. players are stronger, faster and more powerful than Mexican footballers, but your attempt to use Javier Hernandez as the poster boy for your argument was a weak one and somewhat ironic.

http://www.sport.co.uk/football/javier-hernandez-the-world-cups-fastest-player/41092

Of course, I know you will just waive your hands and ignore your error rather than admit you are painting with a very BROAD brush.

The Mexican National Team has made it out of the group stage in every World Cup tournament since 1994 - a feat which places them amongst the World's Top 16 teams for 23 years running. Technically, the run would be longer considering they reached the quarter-finals in 1986 and had an even stronger squad in 1990 with Hugo Sanchez at the height of his powers, but Mexico was banned from participating in the 1990 WC in Italy because over age players were used at a U20 qualifying tournament in 1988 (the Cachirules scandal). This is the primary reason why Hugo Sanchez's relation with the FMF has been forever strained. And why he is on record saying that he will NEVER forgive them for that.

I could go on further and claim that said scandal was the primary factor that allowed the USMNT to even qualify for the 1990 WC in Italy given that they earned their qualification in the very last match - a berth that would've - given the gap at that time - gone to Mexico (had they not been banned). The worst part of it all, was that the scandal was driven by a subset of representatives in the FMF and was not condoned by the FMF at large - in other words, rogue directives working deceitfully on their own accord shamed the nation and unknowingly catalyzed the rebirth of U.S. Soccer. I once relayed this observation to Eric Wynalda, member of that 1990 U.S. Squad that played in Italy (while he was playing in F.C. León) and he just shrugged his shoulders and said, "I hadn't thought about it that way, but it's true..."

As for your attempts to brush off Mexico's footballing hardware - you're grasping at straws. The reality is that the U.S. hasn't won anything other than Gold Cups. Zero, Nada, Nothing, Zilch... So you trying to place qualifiers to discredit Mexico's hardware comes off as nothing more than saltiness. I mean come on, how much more offensive can you get, creating a disdainful and xenophobic thread title just to belittle Mexicans? Again, it's laughable and comes off as mere saltiness. Keep celebrating your "Dos a Cero" days... and living in a fantasy land where U.S. Soccer is seen in greater light than Mexican soccer. The Mexican Primera División is arguably top 9th or 10th league in the world... the money is certainly there.

Spanish La Liga
German Bundesliga
English Premier League
Italian Serie A [*Top 4 leagues are interchangeable any given year]

followed by:
French Ligue 1
Dutch Eredivisie
Portuguese La Liga

Futebol Brasileiro
Mexican Liga MX
Primera División de Argentina
Turkish 1st Division [these 4 leagues are interchangeable any given year]

Russian First Division
Polish League
Scottish Premier League
etc...

about 5 more leagues... then

Major League Soccer

Within the region you claim the U.S. is officially a "giant" in, MLS has obtained exactly 2 titles in the CONCACAF Champions League tournament. Compare that to 33 titles for Mexican League teams, 6 titles for Costa Rican teams, and 3 titles for El Salvadorian teams... MLS is tied with Trinidad and Tobago, Surinam, Guatemala and Honduras. Since the MLS was created in 1996, Mexican teams have taken the CONCACAF Champions League title 15 times (including the last 12 consecutive titles with 9 of those finals matches disputed between 2 Mexican teams). But yeah, let's all believe that strength, power, and speed are the determinant factors in producing effective or quality football. Can MLS matches be exciting? Certainly, but they aren't played at the same level as matches in Mexico.

son I agree with your post but the russian first division has a LOT of talent, because of soviet petrodollars. Skt Petersburg, Spartak, Lokomotiv, Kazan are all strong teams and they do decent in the UCL and Europa League. They are at portuguese/dutch level as a league.

[Phenomanul]

son I agree with your post but the russian first division has a LOT of talent, because of soviet petrodollars. Skt Petersburg, Spartak, Lokomotiv, Kazan are all strong teams and they do decent in the UCL and Europa League. They are at portuguese/dutch level as a league.

Fair enough... I had the chance to see a match between Skt Petersburg and CSKA Moscow at Moscow... it was entertaining but I couldn't focus enough just from trying to keep warm... the match was in November.

[dfens]

Fair enough... I had the chance to see a match between Skt Petersburg and CSKA Moscow at Moscow... it was entertaining but I couldn't focus enough just trying to keep warm... the match was is November.

:lol nice.

Tbh you reminded me of a funny trip to Russia, in an industrial city (Ufa, near Urals, it's quite big) late February some years ago, when I was visiting a production site ... some of the assholes working there were coming to work on bikes at -30 degrees :lmao quote: "January was cold but right now it's warming up a bit" :lmao

[Spurtacular]

It's laughable that you are trying to equate SPEED to some esoteric advanced metric that has no sensical equivalent in soccer. SPEED is a DIRECT measurement, it cannot be faked...



Apparently, it can if you're trying to tell me that Javier Hernandez was basically the fastest player in the world at one point.

[Spurtacular]

The Mexican National Team has made it out of the group stage in every World Cup tournament since 1994 - a feat which places them amongst the World's Top 16 teams for 23 years running.

Soft groups has facilitated that, imo. As for the US in that same span, they pretty much got the treatment in 06 the wake of Iraq War. And in 98, their disharmony is comparable to France in 2010. It wasn't a lack of talent though, imo.

[Spurtacular]

Technically, the run would be longer considering they reached the quarter-finals in 1986 and had an even stronger squad in 1990 with Hugo Sanchez at the height of his powers, but Mexico was banned from participating in the 1990 WC in Italy because over age players were used at a U20 qualifying tournament in 1988 (the Cachirules scandal). This is the primary reason why Hugo Sanchez's relation with the FMF has been forever strained. And why he is on record saying that he will NEVER forgive them for that.

I could go on further and claim that said scandal was the primary factor that allowed the USMNT to even qualify for the 1990 WC in Italy given that they earned their qualification in the very last match - a berth that would've - given the gap at that time - gone to Mexico (had they not been banned). The worst part of it all, was that the scandal was driven by a subset of representatives in the FMF and was not condoned by the FMF at large - in other words, rogue directives working deceitfully on their own accord shamed the nation and unknowingly catalyzed the rebirth of U.S. Soccer. I once relayed this observation to Eric Wynalda, member of that 1990 U.S. Squad that played in Italy (while he was playing in F.C. León) and he just shrugged his shoulders and said, "I hadn't thought about it that way, but it's true..."



If that actually occurred, I would tell you that EW is no dummy and that he had thought of it that way. Hell, I was a bit young at the time, but even I had thought about it that way. But as for Mexico missing out on the 90 WC cos of the cheating, I have a hard time seeing them as victims when their offense was pretty egregious. For what it's worth, they weren't going to win that WC and the birth of US Soccer is most certainly in their interest. Some fans will understandably miss their days of yore.

[Spurtacular]

everybody loses badly once in a while, it's just one game vs decades of consistent work. You think brasil are done because 7-1, these niggas will bounce back.

Can't think of a more embarrassing loss in international soccer history, tbh. Sure, they'll bounce back at some point; but we'll see how bad this is for their psyche all the same.

[Spurtacular]

Euroball about bigger stronger faster :lmao:lmao you've been a football fan for what, 2 whole years? nobody can take you seriously after such a transgression tbh


The best athletes are being paid to play for Euro clubs; this is no secret.

[Spurtacular]

Son, Beckham is was tony parker level player and even he knew it.


Parker wishes he hit that level. Becks was the highest paid player more than once.

[Spurtacular]

US moving up in the rankings; so, does strawberry pickers.

https://www.starsandstripesfc.com/usmnt-news/2017/8/10/16125738/usa-usmnt-fifa-rankings-august

[dfens]

The best athletes are being paid to play for Euro clubs; this is no secret.

yet missi, iniesta, silva, veratti, koke, griezmann, etc are the top players, not the pogba or lukaku monkeyballers... give me a break, football isn't about running fast or jumping high, look at your last 3 world champ squads, the key players were never athletes.

the best athletes are paid to play in england and france where kickball and monkeyball is appreciated, sure enough these federations had superb success both at the UCL and NT level :lmao

[Spurtacular]

yet missi, iniesta, silva, veratti, koke, griezmann, etc are the top players, not the pogba or lukaku monkeyballers... give me a break, football isn't about running fast or jumping high, look at your last 3 world champ squads, the key players were never athletes.

the best athletes are paid to play in england and france where kickball and monkeyball is appreciated, sure enough these federations had superb success both at the UCL and NT level :lmao

You're sort of debating in the margins. Athleticism is highly important regardless of your efforts to downplay it. Sure, you can rank skill, intelligence, etc up there, too. But the most disciplined, most schooled MLS team won't be in the stratosphere of the Euro clubs until better athletes start coming to the league.

[dfens]

You're sort of debating in the margins. Athleticism is highly important regardless of your efforts to downplay it. Sure, you can rank skill, intelligence, etc up there, too. But the most disciplined, most schooled MLS team won't be in the stratosphere of the Euro clubs until better athletes start coming to the league.

you are extremely far from reality. MLS totally lacks discipine and skill, the large disparity isn't in athleticism but in skill, positioning, the game without the ball, organisation, discipline and coaching.

a team of messi, modric, higuain, benzema, iniesta, masquerano, chiellini, veratti, koke, etc would rape the entirety of europe and they'd physically look like a fit sunday league team :lol. Besides direction changing athleticism is extremely unimportant in football, positioning is ten times more relevant, so is skill (ball control, passing, knowing when to move, fake runs) and so is the ability to work as a team. Look at all the athletes at manchester united, besides being athletic as fuck they are also skilled and talented but they have done fuck all because they use that skill at a primitive level, many times playing a variant of kick ball.

Germany are world champs yet france / brasil / england / belgium / netherlands have athletically MUCH MORE talented teams (many players look like fucking track stars out there), still we are CONSISTENTLY better.
Spain went euro - world cup -euro with a team looking like the backstreet boys.
Barcelona destroyed the cream of Europe with missi/xavi/iniesta/mascherano/bisquits/pique/etc ... all athletic monsters :lol
See a pattern?

Lol at thinking MLS lacks athleticism. MLS should heavily invest in training for positioning, skill and teamwork, but it won't do that because the resulting game doesn't sell to the ADHD "bust a net under a minute" american public. The only reason for which US had any results in football IS athleticism.

[Canyonero]

MLS is unwatchable imo.

[dfens]

MLS is unwatchable imo.

MLS is unwatchable.

[Spurtacular]

MLS is unwatchable.

I don't tend to watch it when flipping through. It's okay on three levels:

1. Live in the stadium.
2. Playoffs
3. If actually following a team / players.

But tbh, other leagues can be plenty stale at times, too. And this formula is just general and not specific to MLS.

[Spurtacular]

you are extremely far from reality. MLS totally lacks discipine and skill, the large disparity isn't in athleticism but in skill, positioning, the game without the ball, organisation, discipline and coaching...

Lol at thinking MLS lacks athleticism. MLS should heavily invest in training for positioning, skill and teamwork, but it won't do that because the resulting game doesn't sell to the ADHD "bust a net under a minute" american public. The only reason for which US had any results in football IS athleticism.

You're in full-on denial of reality. Just got done watching Germany v Norway (6-0). Yes, Germany has better skill, etc. But the disparity is physical prowess is readily obvious. Don't expect Vietnam to breaking into the World Cup any time soon.

[dfens]

You're in full-on denial of reality. Just got done watching Germany v Norway (6-0). Yes, Germany has better skill, etc. But the disparity is physical prowess is readily obvious. Don't expect Vietnam to breaking into the World Cup any time soon.

were we watching the same match? I'd say many good things about our team but saying we're athletic isn't one of them tbh.:lol

[Spurtacular]

were we watching the same match? I'd say many good things about our team but saying we're athletic isn't one of them tbh.:lol

Physical prowess is not the same as athleticism.

[dfens]

Physical prowess is not the same as athleticism.

then what is it son?
being tall? the norwegians are tall
being heavy ? the norwegians are heavy
having monkeys from Afrika? the norwegians have them too
having allahs from middle east? norway has the most per-capita in the EU
having better nutrition or academies? the norwegians are richer per capita.

Genetically ethnic norwegians and ethnic germans are very close, with norwegians a bit taller and a bit leaner on average.

We germans are one of the less athletic nations in the world, we are just disciplined, well positioned, tactically astute, properly trained, skilled and fight to the end. These qualities are much more relevant in football then in other team sports like basketball, so that's why we win.
Have you seen any lebron/kobe/pogba/penaldo skilled athletes come out of germany? I haven't.
Have you seen any xavi/iniesta/zidane/ronaldinho/pirlo super skilled players come out of germany? I haven't.

[Spurtacular]

then what is it son?
being tall? the norwegians are tall
being heavy ? the norwegians are heavy
having monkeys from Afrika? the norwegians have them too
having allahs from middle east? norway has the most per-capita in the EU
having better nutrition or academies? the norwegians are richer per capita.

Genetically ethnic norwegians and ethnic germans are very close, with norwegians a bit taller and a bit leaner on average.

We germans are one of the less athletic nations in the world, we are just disciplined, well positioned, tactically astute, properly trained, skilled and fight to the end. These qualities are much more relevant in football then in other team sports like basketball, so that's why we win.
Have you seen any lebron/kobe/pogba/penaldo skilled athletes come out of germany? I haven't.
Have you seen any xavi/iniesta/zidane/ronaldinho/pirlo super skilled players come out of germany? I haven't.

Go watch the replay of the game; you'll see it.

[apalisoc_9]

then what is it son?
being tall? the norwegians are tall
being heavy ? the norwegians are heavy
having monkeys from Afrika? the norwegians have them too
having allahs from middle east? norway has the most per-capita in the EU
having better nutrition or academies? the norwegians are richer per capita.

Genetically ethnic norwegians and ethnic germans are very close, with norwegians a bit taller and a bit leaner on average.

We germans are one of the less athletic nations in the world, we are just disciplined, well positioned, tactically astute, properly trained, skilled and fight to the end. These qualities are much more relevant in football then in other team sports like basketball, so that's why we win.
Have you seen any lebron/kobe/pogba/penaldo skilled athletes come out of germany? I haven't.
Have you seen any xavi/iniesta/zidane/ronaldinho/pirlo super skilled players come out of germany? I haven't.

disagree..Seen loads of Norwegians girls I'd put my load into..German girls..I think you put too muc testosterone in your food.

no way you're that close genetically to them when there's clear disparity in women.

[140]

Can't believe a thread about two completely irrelevant teams has gone on this long :lol literally a waste of ST's slovenian server space tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

LMAO uncle dad having faggots

[Spurtacular]

:lmao Seventh straight Round of 16 loss for the strawberry pickers :lmao
:lmao In dos a cero style :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgAMpAyeP7A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAjT-rgp9Mc

[Spurtacular]

:lmao San Zusi Pt. 2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RizjdKizdJA

[Phenomanul]

You've got no room to say anything tbh...

[Spurtacular]

You've got no room to say anything tbh...

I got acres.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzL5UkngAKM

[Spurtacular]

:lol At the people saying Mexico lost their Ro16 game to Sweden.

1. They would've lost to Switzerland, too.
2. Brazil is over-rated AF, and they have a good history of results against them. That was the game they wanted, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

Funny watching all the hype in the buildup to Mexico 1-0 loss to the USA. People talking about Lainez like he's the next Messi. He's not even half a Donovan, tbh. No way he's gonna be a great wing at the big time international level. He could be a homeless man's Modric in distribution maybe.

And all they hype about Alvarado on the other wing? :lol Dude is nothing special either.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9zjtvi6oUQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2WEmcJ3QUY

:lmao Mexican midget acting up.


Mientras USA gasta millones de dólares para combatir el bullyng y hacen campañas. Estos jugadores "profesionales" traen el bullyng a un juego profesional donde hay niños viendo esto antiprofecional antideportiva la FIFA deveria castigar a este jugador. No importa si lo hiso a un mexicano no se trata de nacionalidades se trata de combatir el bullyng.

Translation: While the USA spends millions of dollars to fight bullyng and campaign. These "professional" players bring the bullyng to a professional game where there are children watching this anti-sport antiprofessional FIFA should punish this player. It does not matter if it was a Mexican it is not about nationalities it is about fighting the bullyng.

:lmao Second highest rated comment on the Mexican link is Mexican fans whining about their players being bullied.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao Dos Santos showing off his sports bra. :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0n_nPHO12g

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn7eaL7DanU

[Spurtacular]

:cry But they always make The Round Of Sixteen at The World Cup :cry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e48OufVhYnc

[Spurtacular]

:lol Typical entitled Mexico fans

https://i.imgur.com/eVS8v4O.png

[Spurtacular]

Mexico still taking their shots after Chuck Lozano goes down for the count. :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C1l022H-1U

[Spurtacular]

:lol Giving Mexico nine added time minutes in the second half (the Lozano injury was in the second half) b/c the ref was trying to avoid an attempted murder; and the Mexicans couldn't get it done. :lmao :rollin