Is Florida Cops takeout of this dog justfied or criminal?

[Fabbs]

The officer was there to inform the family they’d left a car door open; his defense for shooting Duchess was that “he feared for his life.”

https://youtu.be/LSxrW9xxmaw

http://www.anonews.co/family-dog-cop/

Lets get a panel of SpursTalk posters to examine this case.

[SpursforSix]

I guess he might have legitimately feared for his life. But he must be pretty wound up. He was already pulling his gun when the door was barely open.
He needs a desk job.

[Blake]

Cops killing dogs is an epidemic. Gotta be a better way to neutralize charging dogs.

But people are also stupid with their dogs. "He's a sweetheart....will only drool on you" is horse shit.

Gotta secure it when answering front door. I've got no problem with the cop reacting to a charging dog.

[Fabbs]

I guess he might have legitimately feared for his life. But he must be pretty wound up. He was already pulling his gun when the door was barely open.
He needs a desk job.
Perhaps he heard the dog barking before door opened?

[Fabbs]

Cops killing dogs is an epidemic. Gotta be a better way to neutralize charging dogs.

But people are also stupid with their dogs. "He's a sweetheart....will only drool on you" is horse shit.

Gotta secure it when answering front door. I've got no problem with the cop reacting to a charging dog.
Appears householder did not look out peephole. You would think seeing a cop in uniform she would have subdued Fido.
Ya that "oh my dog's soo friendly" is bullshit. How many pitbulls have mauled that were "he's soo sweet."

[SpursforSix]

Perhaps he heard the dog barking before door opened?

I'm sure he did. But what if a little kid was dressed in a dog costume and came running out? Would it have been justified to shoot the little kid?

[Fabbs]

I'm sure he did. But what if a little kid was dressed in a dog costume and came running out? Would it have been justified to shoot the little kid?
I'm at 50/50 on blame at present.
Agree he knee-jerked much too quickly.
Would like to hear more from panel.

[SpursforSix]

I'm at 50/50 on blame at present.
Agree he knee-jerked much too quickly.
Would like to hear more from panel.

Yeah. But I will say that the homeowner should have controlled their dog. Maybe she saw a black person and panicked and just let the dog loose. He wasn't in any kind of uniform.

[Trainwreck2100]

was it a black dog?

[SpursforSix]

was it a black dog?

Zebra. But maybe the black father ran out on him and he held a grudge.

[Trainwreck2100]

Zebra. But maybe the black father ran out on him and he held a grudge.
that means he could have been doggy president then.

[SpursforSix]

that means he could have been doggy president then.

Well it doesn't matter now. We'll never know what he could have become. It's exactly why I'm opposed to dog abortions.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I hate dogs more than cops so, justified

[RD2191]

I hate dogs more than cops so, justified

Lol same here TBH

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Lol same here TBH
But I'd be the first one to utilize the whole "pigs in blue" rhetoric if that was a child instead of a dog, however.

[SnakeBoy]

I'm sure he did. But what if a little kid was dressed in a dog costume and came running out? Would it have been justified to shoot the little kid?

Pretty sure that would be justified. Not quite the same scenario but close...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJqoozyaNac

[redzero]

I don't consider myself as liberal, but I'm really starting to hate cops. This shit is ridiculous. They get a free pass to kill animals indiscriminately and to murder law-abiding citizens. Fuck 'em.

[Robz4000]

Criminal imo. Cops (and people in general) are way too trigger happy these days.

[DMC]

People are stupid.

A. If you have a dog that attacks people, you're armed.
B. If you call another armed individual into your home and your dog attacks said individual, shooting might occur.
C. Why do you have a dog like that with small kids?

That was an unfortunate situation. The cop should not have shot inside the home, but with a pit bull attacking you, it's fight or flight and the 2nd option isn't always an option. Still, the untrained local high school losers that become police officers are often so trigger happy because they are scared shitless that they will be the next "fallen hero". They don't get exposed to a lot of mundane success stories. They get 80% of their Clockwork Orange style brainwashing on about .5% of the activity they could encounter, so they go out ramped up like a ferret on a double espresso ready to take the first shot if they think anything at all could be going down.

Then you have the rest of the hundreds of thousands of officers who didn't shoot anyone, and who respond daily to distress calls. We never talk about those.

It's a simple solution: stop calling the cops.

[Blake]

They didn't call the cops in the op.

He didn't go inside either.

[monosylab1k]

Yeah, that dog was not charging or aggressive. Walked up to smell his ass, like dogs will do. Hopefully that faggot gets punished for that.

[monosylab1k]

Also, this news story is almost 2 years old. Does Fabbs wait till there's a BOGO groupon for his news articles, not knowing that he can just google shit?

[SpursforSix]

Pretty sure that would be justified. Not quite the same scenario but close...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJqoozyaNac

Yes...agreed. I think if the child was dressed a dog or ninja, it would be an even easier justification. It's a good shooting.
Thanks for a good baseline reference.

[SnakeBoy]

I think if the child was dressed a dog or ninja, it would be an even easier justification.

What other costumes would justify shooting the child? Casper the Ghost could easily startle a police officer so that's an easy one but what about say a Justin Bieber costume? Shoot or don't shoot?

[boutons_deux]

faggot gets punished for that.

Cops are effectively IMMUNE from prosecution for murdering blacks, but probably gratuitously killing a dog will really piss people of much more than if he had shot a unarmed, non-threatening, unarmed black male or female.

[MultiTroll]

Ok panel, i'm gonna ask you to assign a % number to the accountability.
Just based on the info we have.

I'm still at 50 / 50
Householder should automatically look out at peephole.
Cop knee jerked.

[SnakeBoy]

Householder should automatically look out at peephole. 100%
Cop knee jerked. True but he was black so a natural fearfulness of dogs is to be expected 20%

[SpursforSix]

What other costumes would justify shooting the child? Casper the Ghost could easily startle a police officer so that's an easy one but what about say a Justin Bieber costume? Shoot or don't shoot?

I'd say that any costume that had the potential for violence. And really, how does the cop even know that it's a child in the costume? If I was a midget and wanted to get the drop on a cop, I'd dress up like a princess.
So...in light of that, anything small and rushing out the door is fair game. Especially if they're in a costume.

[SnakeBoy]

I'd say that any costume that had the potential for violence. And really, how does the cop even know that it's a child in the costume? If I was a midget and wanted to get the drop on a cop, I'd dress up like a princess.
So...in light of that, anything small and rushing out the door is fair game. Especially if they're in a costume.

That makes perfect sense tbh.

There you go Fabbs, issue resolved.

[Fabbs]

I'd dress up like a princess.
ok

[Fabbs]

I'd say that any costume that had the potential for violence. And really, how does the cop even know that it's a child in the costume? If I was a midget and wanted to get the drop on a cop, I'd dress up like a princess.
So...in light of that, anything small and rushing out the door is fair game. Especially if they're in a costume.


That makes perfect sense tbh.

There you go Fabbs, issue resolved.
They could have been watching The Godfather scene and gotten an idea. Like where Vincent and mommy dressed up for the parade and got on a horse to surprise attack Joey Zaza.
Yep. The Florida cop might have thought he was being ambushed Godfather style.

[Capt Bringdown]

The only good dog is a dead dog.

[Fabbs]

The only good dog is a dead dog.
So you are assigning
100% householder
0% cop?

[SpursforSix]

You're not even taking consideration that the homeowners might have hated the dog and let it out on purpose. So the dog gets shot and they can sue over it.

[Fabbs]

You're not even taking consideration that the homeowners might have hated the dog and let it out on purpose. So the dog gets shot and they can sue over it.
Good point.
The householder may like BBC or small bc and be having an affair with the cop.
They may have schemed to get money in a lawsuit vs the city. This is Florida after all.
He sure got the gun out early. Like he knew what was about to come down.

[Blake]

You're not even taking consideration that the homeowners might have hated the dog and let it out on purpose. So the dog gets shot and they can sue over it.


They didn't know it was a cop at the door

[140]

They didn't know it was a cop at the door
That might be exactly what they want you to think tbh

[SpursforSix]

That might be exactly what they want you to think tbh

Bingo.

[Blake]

They do look like dog sacrificing masterminds tbh

[Fabbs]

They do look like dog sacrificing masterminds tbh
Or
notice how long the dog wags his tail after being shot.
Did they use some Hollywood type fake blood and the dog is in on all this?

[SpursforSix]

Or
notice how long the dog wags his tail after being shot.
Did they use some Hollywood type fake blood and the dog is in on all this?

That's ridiculous.

[Blake]

..and the dog is in on all this?

And the cop

[DMC]

They didn't call the cops in the op.

He didn't go inside either.
Referring to Snakeboy's video.