Spurs sign Tyler Self - Son of Bill Self

[lmbebo]

https://www.poundingtherock.com/2017/7/29/16061270/san-antonio-spurs-sign-tyler-self

[BatManu20]

Heard through the grapevine a while back that there's a good chance Bill Self is the future HC of the San Antonio Spurs. This is just another step in that direction.

[TheDoctor]

https://www.poundingthecock.com/2017/7/29/16061270/san-antonio-spurs-sign-tyler-self (https://www.poundingtherock.com/2017/7/29/16061270/san-antonio-spurs-sign-tyler-self)

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[Solid D]

How is that going to work, with a person named Self working on Pop's staff?

Pop: "The first thing you're going to have to learn is to get over your "Self."

[BatManu20]

I also vividly remember in an interview with Jon Barry on ESPN earlier this year, when asked who he would choose if he could coach one NBA player right now, Bill Self said Kawhi Leonard.

[Mr. Body]

Fucking nepotism.

[SnakeBoy]

He looks gay

[SnakeBoy]

Never heard of the guy but his youtube highlight vid looks awesome


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIqSWudJUVM

[Spurtacular]

Fucking nepotism; always.

[Spurtacular]

Never heard of the guy but his youtube highlight vid looks awesome


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIqSWudJUVM


Fucking nepotism; always.

Reminds me of Black Ollie.

[Spurtacular]

Fucking nepotism; always.

Saw this guy on the bench in a game last season and was like, that dude is taking up someone's scholarship. What a fucking joke. And now the Spurs dignify this shit. "World Class Organization."

[LittleCriminal]

Would this be considered white privilege?

[Hoops Czar]

Basketball operations quality assurance assistant? :lol So, is he working in the mail room or cafeteria?

[Ice009]

Heard through the grapevine a while back that there's a good chance Bill Self is the future HC of the San Antonio Spurs. This is just another step in that direction.

Who is he? Is he any good?

Edit : I assume College Basketball, but I don't follow College Basketball at all. Is he a good coach?

[Poolboy5623]

Could the Spurs be any more Pathetic? I say no.

[Spurtacular]

Would this be considered white privilege?

More technically class privilege.

[Spurtacular]

Well, pouting aside, let's look at this for what it is: Bill Self is on the Spurs shortlist to replace Pop after he retires.

[apalisoc_9]

I'm sure Kawhi is thrilled to have another neopitism hire..

Geez these white dudes getting random jobs with virtually zero responsibiliyy.

[Spurtacular]

I'm sure Kawhi is thrilled to have another neopitism hire..

Geez these white dudes getting random jobs with virtually zero responsibiliyy.

QFT

[TimDunkem]

Gave his adopted son Alexis Wangmene a free spot on a summer league team then the Austin Toros.

Drafted Cory Joseph over potential Leonard wing running mate, Jimmy Butler, because CJ was one of Alexis' buddies.

Drafted Derrick White simply because his buddy Tad Boyle said it would be nice.

Gives his buddy Bill Self's kid a job with a fat paycheck.

Keep up the good work, RC! :drunk:donkey:nerd

[TimDunkem]

Well, pouting aside, let's look at this for what it is: Bill Self is on the Spurs shortlist to replace Pop after he retires.
No...Self is just an RC drinking buddy and he gave his son a job.

[apalisoc_9]

Gave his adopted son Alexis Wangmene a free spot on a summer league team then the Austin Toros.

Drafted Cory Joseph over potential Leonard wing running mate, Jimmy Butler, because CJ was one of Alexis' buddies.

Drafted Derrick White simply because his buddy Tad Boyle said it would be nice.

Gives his buddy Bill Self's kid a job with a fat paycheck.

Keep up the good work, RC! :drunk:donkey:nerd

:lmao

[99 Problems]

Get in here. :lobt2:

[BillMc]

Thanks for making us all more Self aware.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Basketball operations quality assurance assistant? :lol So, is he working in the mail room or cafeteria?
So why does anyone care? Just something else to bitch about because your own life sucks?

[Twisted_Dawg]

Gave his adopted son Alexis Wangmene a free spot on a summer league team then the Austin Toros.

Drafted Cory Joseph over potential Leonard wing running mate, Jimmy Butler, because CJ was one of Alexis' buddies.

Drafted Derrick White simply because his buddy Tad Boyle said it would be nice.

Gives his buddy Bill Self's kid a job with a fat paycheck.

Keep up the good work, RC! :drunk:donkey:nerd

And....Drafted Tony Parker buddy Labia Jean-Charles over Alan Crabbe.

[TheGreatYacht]

Saw this guy on the bench in a game last season and was like, that dude is taking up someone's scholarship. What a fucking joke. And now the Spurs dignify this shit. "World Class Organization."

I'm sure Kawhi is thrilled to have another neopitism hire..

Geez these white dudes getting random jobs with virtually zero responsibiliyy.
Truth bombs. Watching those unathletic white end-of-the bench scrubs get free scholarships over more deserving players with better genes is disgusting. Just look at these losers get their free education just to be white and hype men. Do y'all think they can play?

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/12/23/ap_777722197993_wide-2f5f60aa59b5aaaa461d11bf3175cc1ee849e1cd.jpg?s=140 0
http://kaigai.atn.blue/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/3_f_151129_fsl_hl_usc_monmouth_web_2500_1280x720_5 76100931651.vresize.1200.675.high_.57-950x534.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/6542399341.jpg?w=620
http://www.eastbaytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sjm-smcbkc-0120-13.jpg?w=620
http://tribe.betterbasketball.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2015/01/basketball_bench_cheers-640x330.jpg

[JohnnyMax]

He's a benchwarmer who played 2 minutes per game: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyler-self-1.html

[tholdren]

Saw this guy on the bench in a game last season and was like, that dude is taking up someone's scholarship. What a fucking joke. And now the Spurs dignify this shit. "World Class Organization."

Just wait. Those 2 guys with lma on his last insta, they have been hired as trainers.

[tholdren]

Truth bombs. Watching those unathletic white end-of-the bench scrubs get free scholarships over more deserving players with better genes is disgusting. Just look at these losers get their free education just to be white and hype men. Do y'all think they can play?

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/12/23/ap_777722197993_wide-2f5f60aa59b5aaaa461d11bf3175cc1ee849e1cd.jpg?s=140 0
http://kaigai.atn.blue/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/3_f_151129_fsl_hl_usc_monmouth_web_2500_1280x720_5 76100931651.vresize.1200.675.high_.57-950x534.jpg
http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/6542399341.jpg?w=620
http://www.eastbaytimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sjm-smcbkc-0120-13.jpg?w=620
http://tribe.betterbasketball.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2015/01/basketball_bench_cheers-640x330.jpg

Lol. Racist idiot. Pics of monmouth and st marys, really? Show me the white guys at howard or moorehead state.

Then you show duke... dumb pic. Nba rookie of year will be ball due to being loud, but luke will have the better season

[Capt Bringdown]

"I like to play with my Self."
:pop:

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

How is that going to work, with a person named Self working on Pop's staff?

Pop: "The first thing you're going to have to learn is to get over your "Self."

:lol

[Mr. Body]

Lol. Racist idiot. Pics of monmouth and st marys, really? Show me the white guys at howard or moorehead state.

Those are HBCUs, fuckhead.

[tholdren]

Those are HBCUs, fuckhead.

Like duke, monmouth and st marys arent HWCUs. Which is my point.

[Mr. Body]

Like duke, monmouth and st marys arent HWCUs. Which is my point.

What the fuck are you talking about?

[MaNu4Tres]

Well deserved. Politics though.

[Spurtacular]

No...Self is just an RC drinking buddy and he gave his son a job.

If he's a drinking buddy, he's on the shortlist.

[apalisoc_9]

Like duke, monmouth and st marys arent HWCUs. Which is my point.

Wow so incredibly racist. Racist twat.

[Spurtacular]

Just look at these losers get their free education just to be white and hype men. Do y'all think they can play?



Lol. Racist idiot. Pics of monmouth and st marys, really? Show me the white guys at howard or moorehead state.

Then you show duke... dumb pic. Nba rookie of year will be ball due to being loud, but luke will have the better season

The "education" for these illiterate assholes is a joke. Personally, I think there should be no athletic scholarships, so the whole thing's a joke to me in the first place.

[Solid D]

The coaching business is about relationships and connections, as it is in many career fields. He was an honor student who got his degree in sports management. He certainly wasn't a great basketball player. So he's getting an internship or residency, so to speak, and probably at fairly low pay in the operations side. Yeah, being the son of a coach and personal friend is the reason he's with the Spurs, but this kind of thing goes on frequently - not just with the Spurs. Self is now a student at Pop and RC University.

[wildbill2u]

Never heard of the guy but his youtube highlight vid looks awesome


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIqSWudJUVM

The guy is a sure fire Hall of Famer as long as he gets that shot over and over again in games. I mean, the guy has it down pat.

[exstatic]

So why does anyone care? Just something else to bitch about because your own life sucks?

[Spurtacular]

The coaching business is about relationships and connections, as it is in many career fields.

[wildbill2u]

The coaching business is about relationships and connections, as it is in many career fields. He was an honor student who got his degree in sports management. He certainly wasn't a great basketball player. So he's getting an internship or residency, so to speak, and probably at fairly low pay in the operations side. Yeah, being the son of a coach and personal friend is the reason he's with the Spurs, but this kind of thing goes on frequently - not just with the Spurs. Self is now a student at Pop and RC University.

Might not be a bad idea to be friends with a coach that has a lot of stroke with some current NBA players as well as bringing more into the college pipeline at Kansas. And if he is a candidate for the coaching job after Pop, here is a pretty good resume.

Billy Eugene Self Jr.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Self#cite_note-4) (born December 27, 1962) is an American men's college basketball (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_basketball) coach at the University of Kansas (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Kansas). During his 14 seasons as head coach, he has led the Jayhawks to at least a share of 13 straight Big 12 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_12_Conference) regular season championships (2005–2017),[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Self#cite_note-5) 2 NCAA Final Four appearances (2008 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NCAA_Men%27s_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament ), 2012 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NCAA_Division_I_Men%27s_Basketball_Tournament )), and the 2008 NCAA championship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NCAA_Men%27s_Division_I_Basketball_Tournament ). On March 31, 2017, it was announced that Self had been elected into theNaismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naismith_Memorial_Basketball_Hall_of_Fame). The official induction will be later in 2017.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Self#cite_note-6)
Self is a three-time National Coach of the Year (2009, 2012, 2016). From 2006 to 2012, he had the best six-year record of any men's coach in Division I history (197-29). As coach at Kansas, Self has a record of 202–10 (.957 win percentage) at historic Allen Fieldhouse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Fieldhouse). In his tenure at Kansas, Self has had 3 home winning streaks of more than 30 wins including a school record and 11th-best all-time 69 game streak.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Self#cite_note-7) During his tenure at Kansas, he has persuaded several McDonald's All-Americans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_All-American_Team) to become Jayhawks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_Jayhawks), including Mario Chalmers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mario_Chalmers), Darrell Arthur (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Arthur), Xavier Henry (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xavier_Henry), Andrew Wiggins (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wiggins), Cliff Alexander (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cliff_Alexander), Wayne Selden, Jr. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Selden,_Jr.), Josh Jackson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Jackson_(basketball)), and Malik Newman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malik_Newman).

[Solid D]

Speaking of Pop and RC University, how many rows did the Spurs' coaching staff take up in Summer League? 3 or 4?





http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEUA3v7UAAAs94b.jpg

[Birn]

Funny how hiring Self's kid to a low-paying admin job to get his foot in the door is considered "white privilege" by Pop and RC but when they hired Becky Hammon they were the coolest and most progressive front office in the history of pro sports. Did anyone ever just consider that they make these hires because of the people they know and trust? That's how it's done everywhere dumbasses.

Freakin' racist pigs on this forum claiming white privilege....what a disgusting embarrassment to our great fan base.

[ElNono]

Best signing of the offseason, IMO

[apalisoc_9]

Funny how hiring Self's kid to a low-paying admin job to get his foot in the door is considered "white privilege" by Pop and RC but when they hired Becky Hammon they were the coolest and most progressive front office in the history of pro sports. Did anyone ever just consider that they make these hires because of the people they know and trust? That's how it's done everywhere dumbasses.

Freakin' racist pigs on this forum claiming white privilege....what a disgusting embarrassment to our great fan base.

Stfu you racist twat.

They could have easily hired a more qualified person

Yet they hired a guy who admits he has no idea how to do his current job.

Go find me a minority that ever gets that attention.

Poop and Drunkford are closest racist that hide under the disguise of hating trump.

[Birn]

Stfu you racist twat.

They could have easily hired a more qualified person

Yet they hired a guy who admits he has no idea how to do his current job.

Go find me a minority that ever gets that attention.

Poop and Drunkford are closest racist that hide under the disguise of hating trump.

Just being honest and laying down some major truth bombs for you. I feel bad for you. So much hate. That's no way to live. Just let go of the racism and you'll be a lot happier.

[Birn]

Stfu you racist twat.

They could have easily hired a more qualified person

Yet they hired a guy who admits he has no idea how to do his current job.

Go find me a minority that ever gets that attention.

Poop and Drunkford are closest racist that hide under the disguise of hating trump.

Here are a few minorities that got the same or similar treatment as Self's son. In some cases, the treatment is actually better.

Corey Robinson - granted a spot on Duke bball team a couple years ago

Caleb Canales - he's been an nba assistant coach over 10 years despite never playing basketball in college OR high school. Started with the Mavs in a very similar role as Self's son.

BJ Bickerstaff - nba assistant and one time head coach. He never played college ball either. Son of NBA coaching legend Bernie Bickerstaff.

It's all about timing and who you or your family knows.

No racism at all with the hiring of Self's son. Happens everywhere in every industry. Nothing to see here. Move along now.

[apalisoc_9]

Here are a few minorities that got the same or similar treatment as Self's son. In some cases, the treatment is actually better.

Corey Robinson - granted a spot on Duke bball team a couple years ago

Caleb Canales - he's been an nba assistant coach over 10 years despite never playing basketball in college OR high school. Started with the Mavs in a very similar role as Self's son.

BJ Bickerstaff - nba assistant and one time head coach. He never played college ball either. Son of NBA coaching legend Bernie Bickerstaff.

It's all about timing and who you or your family knows.

No racism at all with the hiring of Self's son. Happens everywhere in every industry. Nothing to see here. Move along now.

:lmao

What a shitload of bullcrap in one post.

All the guys you mentioned had some sort of experience in the field.

It's pretty evident Subtle Racism is rampant in the spurs organization.

[Birn]

:lmao

What a shitload of bullcrap in one post.

All the guys you mentioned had some sort of experience in the field.

It's pretty evident Subtle Racism is rampant in the spurs organization.

No. Sorry, but the only racism that exists is from you. You really need to re-evaluate your approach to life. You're clearly a very unhappy and miserable person. From reading some of your posts, you should seriously consider checking yourself into a mental rest home.

[tholdren]

What the fuck are you talking about?

Monmouth has an african american enrollment of 4% similar to st marys. Howard has the reverse like 3 percent white. Showing pics of monmouth and asking where are black athletes is every bit as fucking stupid as showing howard and asking where are the white athletes.

But you both are too damn stupid to realize why asking either of those questions are illogical. Educate yourself stay woke or.whatever you want to say, but stop being so stupid i have to type this out for you

[TheDoctor]

Speaking of Pop and RC University, how many rows did the Spurs' coaching staff take up in Summer League? 3 or 4? Yeah, being the son of a coach and personal friend is the reason he's with the Spurs...





http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEUA3v7UAAAs94b.jpg

TBH :lol it was like 17 guys.

Anyway, Steve Kerr's son landed here in the same way.

[SnakeBoy]

Speaking of Pop and RC University, how many rows did the Spurs' coaching staff take up in Summer League? 3 or 4?


http://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEUA3v7UAAAs94b.jpg



Yeah nobody talked about that much but it did make me wonder if a couple of decades of the team being carried by two GOAT players hasn't gone to PATFO's head. Like they spent so much time looking for coaching talent they forgot you need players with talent first. We're pretty much one player from being a lottery team but look at all the coaching talent we have.

[TimDunkem]

We're pretty much one player from being a lottery team but look at all the coaching talent we have.
Truth bomb, but the PATFO slurpers want to give the Spurs credit for not becoming a lottery team while still not doing anything else to continue competing at the same level they have in years prior.

I mean...The Spurs likely have gotten worse as a whole while most of the West improved in some shape or form. How do you defend that?

[Solid D]

Truth bomb, but the PATFO slurpers want to give the Spurs credit for not becoming a lottery team while still not doing anything else to continue competing at the same level they have in years prior.

I mean...The Spurs likely have gotten worse as a whole while most of the West improved in some shape or form. How do you defend that?

So, they missed out on CP3 this year and Durant last year. The Spurs still limped (no TP & only one remaining "big 3" member) into the WC Finals before losing their best player with a huge lead in game 1. "61 win team, we suck."

#almostlottery

[TimDunkem]

So, they missed out on CP3 this year and Durant last year. The Spurs still limped (no TP & only one remaining "big 3" member) into the WC Finals before losing their best player with a huge lead in game 1. "61 win team, we suck."
And yet the team still got worse. They likely won't even win those 60 games this year. Hell, I would've understood standing pat - but getting worse and killing their flexibility for next year? Indefensible.

[Solid D]

And yet the team still got worse. They likely won't even win those 60 games this year. Hell, I would've understood standing pat - but getting worse and killing their flexibility for next year? Indefensible.

Maybe so, maybe not. For the premature projectionists and virtual reality thrill seekers...the game is not played on paper and on the screen.

[TimDunkem]

Maybe so, maybe not. For the premature projectionists and virtual reality thrill seekers...the game is not played on paper and on the screen.
Lost defensive versatility...Lost bench strength...Log jammed the backcourt...

Call me whatever you want, but I'm not optimistic Fathead Jr. and Gay coming off an achilles tear will keep our bench amongst the best in the league nor do I think Bertans, or Joffery Lauvergne along with Pau are going to be able to maintain that great defense that was a staple of the team the past few years. Meanwhile, other guys are continuing to slip...I worry for Kahwi's health most of all since he'll be carrying a lot of deadweight this season.

[NameLess Scrub]

I don't understand.. does he bill himself?

[wildbill2u]

Lost defensive versatility...Lost bench strength...Log jammed the backcourt...

Call me whatever you want, but I'm not optimistic Fathead Jr. and Gay coming off an achilles tear will keep our bench amongst the best in the league nor do I think Bertans, or Joffery Lauvergne along with Pau are going to be able to maintain that great defense that was a staple of the team the past few years. Meanwhile, other guys are continuing to slip...I worry for Kahwi's health most of all since he'll be carrying a lot of deadweight this season.

Look at the cup as half full. No, we aren't going to win the Championship this year. GS has too much talent and money apparently. But it CAN be fun to actually watch the team as it experiments with new players and new playing strategies. What if Pop goes to 'middle ball" with all players on the court being around 6'8' average and able to play in different setups. You know that different look would cause matchup problems against a lot of teams that stay static in the old NBA player format. The game is changing from what we knew when you get a lot of big men who can go out and shoot the 3 pt shot.

We don't know how this team will shape up, but I'm gonna enjoy the games and not worry about winning the championship. Look at the team as a glass that is half full. Being a fan is supposed to be fun. You know, the old Go Spurs Go bit.:flag:

[tonight...you]

Look at the cup as half full. No, we aren't going to win the Championship this year. GS has too much talent and money apparently. But it CAN be fun to actually watch the team as it experiments with new players and new playing strategies. What if Pop goes to 'middle ball" with all players on the court being around 6'8' average and able to play in different setups. You know that different look would cause matchup problems against a lot of teams that stay static in the old NBA player format. The game is changing from what we knew when you get a lot of big men who can go out and shoot the 3 pt shot.

We don't know how this team will shape up, but I'm gonna enjoy the games and not worry about winning the championship. Look at the team as a glass that is half full. Being a fan is supposed to be fun. You know, the old Go Spurs Go bit.:flag:
You typing at a lost cause bud. He's been locked in for a hot minute and he's not emerging from his tunnel anytime soon.
I enjoy his constant whining, honestly.

[Phenomanul]

Stfu you racist twat.

They could have easily hired a more qualified person

Yet they hired a guy who admits he has no idea how to do his current job.

Go find me a minority that ever gets that attention.

Poop and Drunkford are closest racist that hide under the disguise of hating trump.


Says the guy who can't make a legitimate argument as to why you claim that John Stockton isn't a top-3 all-time caliber point guard without bringing race into the argument.

[apalisoc_9]

Says the guy who can't make a legitimate argument as to why you claim that John Stockton isn't a top-3 all-time caliber point guard without bringing race into the argument.

There isn't an argument why John Stockton is even top 10 you imbecile.

Magic-Thomas-Curry-Paul- Parker all have more impressive resume.

[Spurtacular]

There isn't an argument why John Stockton is even top 10 you imbecile.

Magic-Thomas-Curry-Paul- Parker all have more impressive resume.

:lmao

All-time stls leader / all-time asst leader is not top ten in the bbc worshipper's world!

[TheGreatYacht]

There isn't an argument why John Stockton is even top 10 you imbecile.

Magic-Thomas-Curry-Paul- Parker all have more impressive resume.

[apalisoc_9]

Even shitty players like westbrook, nash, kid have better resumes.

Smdh. Brainwashed by white media

Some of these guys bro..

[BD24]

Did some white guy fuck your Girl, your mom, and your Auntie Applesauce?

The way you talk about whitefolk it sure seems like it.

[Phenomanul]

There isn't an argument why John Stockton is even top 10 you imbecile.

Magic-Thomas-Curry-Paul- Parker all have more impressive resume.

Lack of accomplishments (hardware) vs. his peers didn't stop people from suggesting that Wilt Chamberlain was the GOAT (before Jordan came to the scene). But Wilt is still considered a Top-10 All-Time caliber player.

The objective of a point guard is to run an offense, and create scoring opportunities for their teammates.

Few players can claim to have done that better or more efficiently than John Stockton.

He holds the all-time assists record,

He holds the all-time steals record,

7 of the top 10 single season assist totals were produced by Stockton.

He was efficient from the field and dependable from the free throw line.

He was a winner despite the lack of hardware (he ranks No. 5 on the all-time Win Shares below Michael Jordan and right above Tim Duncan) and No. 15 on the WS/48 just below Tim Duncan - who is ranked 14.

Rankings are subjective matters anyways... but to you the thought that he is even a top-10 point guard is revolting because YOU ARE A RACIST.

[apalisoc_9]

Lack of accomplishments (hardware) vs. his peers didn't stop people from suggesting that Wilt Chamberlain was the GOAT (before Jordan came to the scene). But Wilt is still considered a Top-10 All-Time caliber player.

The objective of a point guard is to run an offense, and create scoring opportunities for their teammates.

Few players can claim to have done that better or more efficiently than John Stockton.

He holds the all-time assists record,

He holds the all-time steals record,

7 of the top 10 single season assist totals were produced by Stockton.

He was efficient from the field and dependable from the free throw line.

He was a winner despite the lack of hardware (he ranks No. 5 on the all-time Win Shares below Michael Jordan and right above Tim Duncan) and No. 15 on the WS/48 just below Tim Duncan - who is ranked 14.

Rankings are subjective matters anyways... but to you the thought that he is even a top-10 point guard is revolting because YOU ARE A RACIST.

Did you get your info from espn? :lmao

If you don't think stockton is better than westbrook you're racist :cry

I have White guy nash ahead of stockton....

But apo is racist. :cry

[apalisoc_9]

Magic
Oscar
Thomas
Paul
Curry
Nash
Frazier
Parker
Kidd
Westbrook

Stockton has no legitimate argument over those guys.

[E20]

WTF is Tyler Self. Better be a pawn for the Kyrie trade.

[SpursforSix]

Magic
Oscar
Thomas
Paul
Curry
Nash
Frazier
Parker
Kidd
Westbrook

Stockton has no legitimate argument over those guys.

You must not have seen him play. Dude was legit. Exchange him and Parker and the Spurs have another ring or two. Parker has no business being on that list.

[apalisoc_9]

You must not have seen him play. Dude was legit. Exchange him and Parker and the Spurs have another ring or two. Parker has no business being on that list.

Shutup fabs.

I've seen Stockton play. Realisticly, he's as good as TJ Mconnel but he played in an era with a deficiency in overall talent.

More importantly, about 60% of his assist were Malone post-ups.

You don't get credited an assist with those kind of passess nowadys lr even at that time. People were jist lenient with Stat keeping because it wasn't as observed as it is now.

You can't be a top 10 pg when you're significantly inferior than the beat player in your team and also never a championship.

The top 10 guys are leads for their team or have won rings with FMVPs.

[SpursforSix]

Shutup fabs.

I've seen Stockton play. Realisticly, he's as good as TJ Mconnel but he played in an era with a deficiency in overall talent.

More importantly, about 60% of his assist were Malone post-ups.

You don't get credited an assist with those kind of passess nowadys lr even at that time. People were jist lenient with Stat keeping because it wasn't as observed as it is now.

Please back up "60 %". Put him on those Spurs teams and he'd thrive. Also could hit the three better than Parker. If he'd have been on the Spurs as long as Parker, he'd have even higher numbers.

[apalisoc_9]

Please back up "60 %". Put him on those Spurs teams and he'd thrive. Also could hit the three better than Parker. If he'd have been on the Spurs as long as Parker, he'd have even higher numbers.

The Spurs would have zero rings if Stockton placed Parker.

Parker is the best rim finisher the league has ever seen.

He's the perfect kick and drive player.

Stockton was an atrociosu kick and drive player that relied heavily on malone rolls and post ups to the basketbet.

Don't you ever put Winner and Champions and best rim finisher ever at the same level as Stockton.

[Phenomanul]

You're just flat out stupid.

[His stats don't count because] he "played in an era with deficiency in overall talent"...

He played against Bird, Magic, Jordan, Isaiah Thomas, Hakeem, D-Rob, Barkley, Worthy, Ewing, Pippen, Mullin, McHale, etc... all in their primes... "era with no talent" scoff... :lmao :lmao :lmao

The original 1992 Dream Team would run circles around any team assembled today... And that's with Bird and Magic past their primes.

Nash shouldn't be above Stockton, simply because he was a freaking turnstile on defense whereas John Stockton was a legitimate pest.

Kidd I would rank more favorably against Stockton because at least early on in his career, he wasn't a complete defensive liability - and always had good rebounding instincts - but even so, John out-assisted Jason Kidd by a whopping 3,715 assists in the same amount of seasons...

Did I mention John's iron-man game? He played a full 82 games 16 out of his 19 NBA seasons. That's pretty damn durable... not like China-doll Nash, or Paul...

[Phenomanul]

Millennials... :rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes

[tholdren]

You're just flat out stupid.

[His stats don't count because] he "played in an era with deficiency in overall talent"...

He played against Bird, Magic, Jordan, Isaiah Thomas, Hakeem, D-Rob, Barkley, Worthy, Ewing, Pippen, Mullin, McHale, etc... all in their primes... "era with no talent" scoff... :lmao :lmao :lmao

The original 1992 Dream Team would run circles around any team assembled today... And that's with Bird and Magic past their primes.

Nash shouldn't be above Stockton, simply because he was a freaking turnstile on defense whereas John Stockton was a legitimate pest.

Kidd I would rank more favorably against Stockton because at least early on in his career, he wasn't a complete defensive liability - and always had good rebounding instincts - and even so, John out assisted Jason Kidd by 3,715 assists in the same amount of seasons...

Did I mention John's iron-man game? He played a full 82 games 16 out of 19 of his NBA seasons.

He didnt bitch, demand a trade, or roll with a posse. Coachable, teammate, loyal... his wsp48 and per are both ahead of westbrook or kidd.... dont let apos racism hold you down

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[tholdren]

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Meh. Was just there a few weeks ago. This guy looks like a giant pussy. My pic was better

[Dverde]

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We stacked!

[FkLA]

Not a racist, but I agree with apo. This is a textbook example of white privilege. Dude got a scholarship to an elite program because his dad is the coach. Then gets hired to an elite professional organization after graduation despite the fact that his only previous experience was being a bench warmer at the aforementioned program.

Must be nice to have life served to you on a silver platter. :rolleyes

[tholdren]

Not a racist, but I agree with apo. This is a textbook example of white privilege. Dude got a scholarship to an elite program because his dad is the coach. Then gets hired to an elite professional organization after graduation despite the fact that his only previous experience was being a bench warmer at the aforementioned program.

Must be nice to have life served to you on a silver platter. :rolleyes

Its not white privilege you idiot. Its just who you know. If self and his family were black this would still be happening. Is it black privilege that shane larkin is in the league? How about the ball kids?