Mother of 4 American citizens getting deported

[Blake]

"An Ohio mother of four was scheduled to be deported on Tuesday after authorities discovered her immigration status during a traffic stop last month.

Beatriz Morelos, who’s lived in Painesville -- just east of Cleveland, Ohio -- for nearly two decades, was arrested for driving without a license last Monday, according to city records, which is when officials discovered that she had been living in the country illegally and turned her over to*Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

......"


https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/528232001/

She clearly poses a threat to society.

[ducks]

she can take the children with her
living in the usa for 20 years she is a fucking lazy person to not fill out the paper work to become a legal citizen

[boutons_deux]

she's a BAD HOMBRE probably secret sex slave of MS-13

[ducks]

why do liberals think she is above the law and it is ok that she did not fill out the paper work?
Why reward someone for being lazy?
I wonder if she voted to:ihit

[ducks]

She clearly broke the law driving illegally
she lucky she did not kill someone she would be in jail
they are laws you have to pass in order to drive
She clearly thought she was above the law

[ducks]

"An Ohio mother of four was scheduled to be deported on Tuesday after authorities discovered her immigration status during a traffic stop last month.

Beatriz Morelos, who’s lived in Painesville -- just east of Cleveland, Ohio -- for nearly two decades, was arrested for driving without a license last Monday, according to city records, which is when officials discovered that she had been living in the country illegally and turned her over to*Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

......"


She clearly poses a threat to society.

she clearly is teaching her kids to not obey the law by her life

[Thread]

she can take the children with her
living in the usa for 20 years she is a fucking lazy person to not fill out the paper work to become a legal citizen

That's it. & that's all.

[Blake]

why do liberals think she is above the law and it is ok that she did not fill out the paper work?
Why reward someone for being lazy?
I wonder if she voted to:ihit

Why not just let her fill out the paper work now?

[Pavlov]

THANK GOD

She was definitely going to murder us.

[spurraider21]

Casillas was taken into custody immediately and later was scheduled to be deported to the Texas border state of Tamaulipas — one of the most dangerous places in Mexico. The kids, ages 4 to 12, are U.S. citizens and never have been out of the United States, her husband, Jose DeJesus, said.
"She doesn't have anybody in Mexico," DeJesus said. "Everything she owns, everything she has is right here. ... She is here to live the American dream."

"We know from experience that this is how things go," Dahlberg said. "They will drop her in the worst city, with no money, and say 'good luck.'"

[Thread]

Why not just let her fill out the paper work now?

No. She's been breaking the law 20 years straight. Get out.

[ducks]

Why not just let her fill out the paper work now?

why reward bad behavior
teaches there no punishement for breaking laws
encourages others to do the same

[Pavlov]

why reward bad behaviorYou voted for Trump.

[Blake]

No. She's been breaking the law 20 years straight. Get out.

Internet tough guy.

[ducks]

You voted for Trump.

Clinton more bad behavior then trump

[ducks]

Internet tough guy.
you internet love guy
you like her? you think you can get some?

[Blake]

why reward bad behavior
teaches there no punishement for breaking laws
encourages others to do the same

Didn't say not to punish her. A fine would be OK with me.

I'd rather see us take her money and fill out a few forms to get square than spend tax dollar to drop her off in a bad part of Mexico

[ducks]

That's it. & that's all.closer for the dbacks finally become a legal citizen because he was like Trump is in charge better fill the paper work out

[Blake]

you internet love guy
you like her? you think you can get some?


Excellent line of reasoning, ducks

[Blake]

Clinton more bad behavior then trump


Gong

[ducks]

Didn't say not to punish her. A fine would be OK with me.

I'd rather see us take her money and fill out a few forms to get square than spend tax dollar to drop her off in a bad part of Mexico
who said she was mexcio?
now I saw the mexico thing. She could ask to be dropped off in a safer spot in mexico

there are bad cities in usa also

if she filled out the paper work paid a fine of $10,000.00 a year for each year she was here fine
pay for the wall that way!

[ducks]

American dream is not breaking the law for 99% of the Americans

[Blake]

who said she was mexcio?
there are bad cities in usa also

if she filled out the paper work paid a fine of $10,000.00 a year for each year she was here fine
pay for the wall that way!

The article says she is being deported to Mexico.

You flipped awfully fast. Sounds like you want her really bad after thinking it over

[Blake]

American dream is not breaking the law for 99% of the Americans

Lol.

99% of Americans break a law on a daily basis. Give or take a few percents

[ducks]

you did not post the link
I DID NOT KNOW SHE WAS FROM MEXICO IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE SHE IS FROM SHE IS HERE ILLEGALL
I AM NOT RACIST AGAINST MEXICANS
I LIVE 30 MINUTES FROM MEXICO AND SEE PLENTY OF MEXICANS IN USA ALL THE TIME
THEY PICK THE LETTUCE BECAUSE THE LAZY S.O.B THAT ARE USA CITIZENS ARE TO LAZY TO AND JUST WANT WELFARE

[ducks]

THE FARMERS GOT TOGETHER AND SAID NO TO THE ILLEGALS AND THEN THE GREAT JOHN MCCAIN TOLD THE FARMERS TO HIRE THEM BECAUSE THE USA CITIZENS WOULD NOT PICK THE LETTUCE

I SAY IF THE GET HUNGRY ENOUGH THEY WILL

[leemajors]

ducks going Blaine the Mono

[Pavlov]

lol McCain f:cryrced farmers to hire illegals.

[ducks]

her attorney better look at the world they are lots of bad places in the world
if everyone moved to the USA they would be not enough jobs,houses and land for everyone
I feel bad for ones not leaving in the USA even the worse usa places are far better then others. So I do not understand why people can not follow the law to became legal if they want to stay here.

[boutons_deux]

Lol.

99% of Americans break a law on a daily basis. Give or take a few percents

3% of them commit tax evasion, and 30% of the 1%ers do the same, and L. Graham says cheating on your taxes is patriotic.

[Blake]

3% of them commit tax evasion, and 30% of the 1%ers do the same, and L. Graham says cheating on your taxes is patriotic.

https://mises.org/library/decriminalize-average-man

[Blake]

you did not post the link
I DID NOT KNOW SHE WAS FROM MEXICO IT DOES NOT MATTER WHERE SHE IS FROM SHE IS HERE ILLEGALL
I AM NOT RACIST AGAINST MEXICANS
I LIVE 30 MINUTES FROM MEXICO AND SEE PLENTY OF MEXICANS IN USA ALL THE TIME
THEY PICK THE LETTUCE BECAUSE THE LAZY S.O.B THAT ARE USA CITIZENS ARE TO LAZY TO AND JUST WANT WELFARE

Damn :lol

[Chucho]

Objectively, she broke the law.

Objectively, she is subjected to the penalty of said law.

Objectively, they are enforcing the penalty placed against her.

What's being done is nothing more than objective.

Subjectively, does it suck? Sure, but weighing your moral values against policy doesn't matter. Don't insinuate bigotry to Ducks or Dale because they are arguing an objective law. I stopped pointing out the bigotry of yuse guys harassing, mocking and being bigoted towards Chris and his Christian beliefs on a subjective level. But I will call out the never-ending hypocrisy of it all.

Blake's a bigot, as is most of the lot, sans RG and 21 generally, but thinks his political affiliation excuses it and gives him moral superiority. The fucking audacity and irony.

[spurraider21]

i get that deporting is following the letter of the law, and a deviation from that demonstrates a lack of principle and/or weakness, but you need to balance what is essentially ego with the human element of the story, imo

i'm all for immigration reform followed by stricter enforcement going forward, but deporting literally millions of people just isn't going to be practical, feasible, pretty, and to a degree, humane

[140]

"An Ohio mother of four was scheduled to be deported on Tuesday after authorities discovered her immigration status during a traffic stop last month.

Beatriz Morelos, who’s lived in Painesville -- just east of Cleveland, Ohio -- for nearly two decades, was arrested for driving without a license last Monday, according to city records, which is when officials discovered that she had been living in the country illegally and turned her over to*Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

......"


https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/528232001/

She clearly poses a threat to society.

He mopped the fuckin floor with her fuckin ass

[Blake]

....But I will call out the never-ending hypocrisy of it all.

Blake's a bigot,


Make the thieving colored girl the maid since that's what her people are historically best at when they aren't killing each other, robbing good white folk and stinking up government offices with coco butter and a pack of kids, each from different daddies.

Chucho the objective non hypocrite

[Chucho]

Chucho the objective non hypocrite

I never said I wasnt. But I dont align morality with political beliefs.

[Blake]

I never said I wasnt.

Noted.

[Chucho]

Noted.

Yup, and feel free to hold onto it and never let it leave ya.

[SpursforSix]

i get that deporting is following the letter of the law, and a deviation from that demonstrates a lack of principle and/or weakness, but you need to balance what is essentially ego with the human element of the story, imo

i'm all for immigration reform followed by stricter enforcement going forward, but deporting literally millions of people just isn't going to be practical, feasible, pretty, and to a degree, humane

I was walking along a beach when I saw a man picking up starfish and throwing them back into the ocean. A fool's errand. There were thousands of beached starfish. I told him that there was no way he'd save all of these. He looked at me and smiled and said, "these aren't starfish, they're dead infants".

What a nut.

[Blake]

Yup, and feel free to hold onto it and never let it leave ya.

Neh, I'll just remind you when you're up on your soapbox and it's timely to make fun of you for it

[DMC]

Why not just let her fill out the paper work now?
Why not just let you pay for the shit you stole after you're caught? Why not just let me buy a ticket after I've snuck into the concert? Why not just let me go get a prescription after I've been caught with a controlled substance?

You become a criminal when you enter illegally, whether it be the USA, a home, a property or anything else. That's what the "illegal" means. It's not a simple term that just means "tardy on filling out paperwork".

[Thread]

Why not just let you pay for the shit you stole after you're caught? Why not just let me buy a ticket after I've snuck into the concert? Why not just let me go get a prescription after I've been caught with a controlled substance?

You become a criminal when you enter illegally, whether it be the USA, a home, a property or anything else. That's what the "illegal" means. It's not a simple term that just means "tardy on filling out paperwork".

D M C

[Blake]

Why not just let you pay for the shit you stole after you're caught? Why not just let me buy a ticket after I've snuck into the concert? Why not just let me go get a prescription after I've been caught with a controlled substance?

You become a criminal when you enter illegally, whether it be the USA, a home, a property or anything else. That's what the "illegal" means. It's not a simple term that just means "tardy on filling out paperwork".

Neat scenarios.

I'm good with fining her. I said as much.

[DMC]

Neat scenarios.

I'm good with fining her. I said as much.

Neat law enforcement ideas.

"You're here illegally, pay 300.00"

"Si, I will when my welfare comes in, do I leave?"

"No, just pay the fine"

"Si, I will bring 5000 relative then, charge 400 each, make a tidy 100.00 profit from each and everyone will be bueno"

[Pavlov]

Why not just let you pay for the shit you stole after you're caught? Why not just let me buy a ticket after I've snuck into the concert? Why not just let me go get a prescription after I've been caught with a controlled substance?

You become a criminal when you enter illegally, whether it be the USA, a home, a property or anything else. That's what the "illegal" means. It's not a simple term that just means "tardy on filling out paperwork".Isn't it a civil violation, not a criminal one?

[Chris]

Blake still confused on how the law works. Illegal is illegal regardless if she is Mother Theresa or the Dalai Lama. Your SJW shit is over rover.

[Blake]

Neat law enforcement ideas.

"You're here illegally, pay 300.00"

"Si, I will when my welfare comes in, do I leave?"

"No, just pay the fine"

"Si, I will bring 5000 relative then, charge 400 each, make a tidy 100.00 profit from each and everyone will be bueno"


$1000+ for the green card. Plus a $300 late fee.

Something along those lines, I'm really ok with it

If 5000 want to pay the green card fees and not have any problems with the law, really what's it to you?

[spurraider21]

Isn't it a civil violation, not a criminal one?
i believe entering illegally is a criminal one. overstaying a visa is a civil one

[Chris]

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Ari-Gold-Get-The-Fuck-Out.gif

Americans first

[Blake]

Blake still confused on how the law works. Illegal is illegal regardless if she is Mother Theresa or the Dalai Lama. Your SJW shit is over rover.

Chris still confused on me thinking what she did was not illegal.

[Pavlov]

i believe entering illegally is a criminal one. overstaying a visa is a civil oneOkee.

[Blake]

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Ari-Gold-Get-The-Fuck-Out.gif

Americans first

Cause you hit that lottery of being born on American dirt. Congrats.

[Chris]

Chris still confused on me thinking what she did was not illegal.

Your OP: "She clearly poses a threat to society." Just another way of saying this isn't justified. What are you saying specifically then?

[Chris]

Cause you hit that lottery of being born on American dirt. Congrats.

Not only that, but I was born in San Antonio, Texas. Mega millions multiplier there :tu

[Blake]

Your OP: "She clearly poses a threat to society." Just another way of saying this isn't justified. What are you saying specifically then?

I'm specifically saying "the punishment doesn't fit the crime".

Seriously tho, bravo at asking a question about what I'm saying instead of making a retarded assumption. :tu

[Blake]

Not only that, but I was born in San Antonio, Texas. Mega millions multiplier there :tu

Debatable, but you're still lucky.

[Chris]

I'm specifically saying "the punishment doesn't fit the crime".

Bravo at asking a question about what I'm saying instead of making a retarded assumption. :tu

How should she be punished?

[Blake]

How should she be punished?

I've said twice very clearly.

[DMC]

$1000+ for the green card. Plus a $300 late fee.

Something along those lines, I'm really ok with it

If 5000 want to pay the green card fees and not have any problems with the law, really what's it to you?

It's not the law. It's your proposal. People who's first act in the US is to break a law should not be given legal permission to continue here.

I don't give a fuck if you're ok with it. I didn't vote for you.

[Chris]

I've said twice very clearly.

So you want to take all her money - got it :tu

[DMC]

Cause you hit that lottery of being born on American dirt. Congrats.
If you feel so fucking bad about it, move to Mexico and make it a better country. Otherwise, stand a post in the military or shut your fucking cuckhole.

[Blake]

It's not the law. It's your proposal. People who's first act in the US is to break a law should not be given legal permission to continue here.

I don't give a fuck if you're ok with it. I didn't vote for you.

I didn't say my proposal was the law.

What's with the reading comp problems in this thread

[Blake]

So you want to take all her money - got it :tu

Those green card fees aren't my proposal. Your understating of green cards is terrible.

The $300 fine is my proposal. Hardly all her money.

[Blake]

If you feel so fucking bad about it, move to Mexico and make it a better country. Otherwise, stand a post in the military or shut your fucking cuckhole.

I don't feel bad about it.

But the "America first" cheerleading by whitey is hilarious considering the euros had to cross the ocean to get it.

[Chris]

whitey

Holy fuck you're a racist :lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/3og0IMJcSI8p6hYQXS/giphy.gif

[DMC]

I don't feel bad about it.

But the "America first" cheerleading by whitey is hilarious considering the euros had to cross the ocean to get it.

As long as you don't personally feel the repercussions from porous borders, you're ok with it. Nice American attitude you have there, I bet you think you're progressive.

[Chris]

I knew this was you

rfqAkUXKT5Y

[Blake]

Holy fuck you're a racist :lol

https://media.giphy.com/media/3og0IMJcSI8p6hYQXS/giphy.gif

It's what my history book said happened. Was yours different?

[Blake]

As long as you don't personally feel the repercussions from porous borders, you're ok with it. Nice American attitude you have there, I bet you think you're progressive.

What are the repercussions from letting this woman stay?

[DMC]

What are the repercussions from letting this woman stay?

Move her in with you then, since being somewhere illegally is ok as long as you have anchor babies.

It sucks that some countries are shitholes, but the reason they move here is the same reason they have to go, because the rule of law governs the people here. We could make a hundred million exceptions and be Mexico 2.0. An unenforced law isn't really a law. Enforce laws or change them, that's the choices.

[Kyle Orton]

youhavetogoback.gif

[DarrinS]

I can only imagine the outrage if she was also a tranny. :lol

[Blake]

Move her in with you then, since being somewhere illegally is ok as long as you have anchor babies.


Textbook tu quoque. Again. Lol.

Still doesn't answer the question I asked.


Enforce laws or change them, that's the choices.

Oh cool, a poli sci lesson.

[Blake]

I can only imagine the outrage if she was also a tranny. :lol

I'm sure you went ahead and imagined the tranny any way

[DMC]

Textbook tu quoque. Again. Lol.

Still doesn't answer the question I asked.


When you take only part of a quote and ignore the rest, of course not.

[DMC]

Blake look at what happened the last time you let someone in your home unchecked.

[Chris]

Blake look at what happened the last time you let someone in your home unchecked.

https://media.giphy.com/media/13LMtLsis4TAwE/giphy.gif

[Blake]

When you take only part of a quote and ignore the rest, of course not.

Run dmc

[Blake]

Blake look at what happened the last time you let someone in your home unchecked.


Yeah, I got a divorce and am happier than ever

[Thread]

If you feel so fucking bad about it, move to Mexico and make it a better country.

D M C

[Blake]

D M C

Lol arm and arm with a chicken

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Lol.

99% of Americans break a law on a daily basis. Give or take a few percents
Most of them are on the road, though. Like for instance I went 51-52 mph on a 40 zone for a few split seconds today which is over my city's 10 mph over-the-limit buffer

[Blake]

Most of them are on the road, though. Like for instance I went 51-52 mph on a 40 zone for a few split seconds today which is over my city's 10 mph over-the-limit buffer

Yah.

[Chucho]

Neh, I'll just remind you when you're up on your soapbox and it's timely to make fun of you for it

It's ok, you're not very good at it. Hold onto it, dont let it go. It can't make a cuckold out of you.

[Chucho]

I knew this was you

rfqAkUXKT5Y


Still gotta dial back the manliness, tbh.

[AaronY]

Choo Choo getting all edgy and insulting! So rough and edgy! I like it!

Tell him you fucked his mom's corpse Choo Choo go in for the kill!

[DMC]

Lol arm and arm with a chicken

I'm not the one afraid to enforce the law. Sure, you can keep her, but you have to send one legal citizen who is also a mother of 4 legal children out of the country.

Who will it be?

[SnakeBoy]

Blake look at what happened the last time you let someone in your home unchecked.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2543/4166956741_d4f532a9d7.jpg

Unnecessary Roughness

[spurraider21]

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2543/4166956741_d4f532a9d7.jpg

Unnecessary Roughness
:lol

[Blake]

:lol

Back up your claim
But your wife cheated on you

I'll take the W, thanks

[Blake]

I'm not the one afraid to enforce the law. Sure, you can keep her, but you have to send one legal citizen who is also a mother of 4 legal children out of the country.

Who will it be?

You're chicken to discuss your claim. Most likely lazy which is funny coming from a super detective like you.

Your dilemma is ridiculous.

Lol Internet tough guys

[DMC]

You're chicken to discuss your claim. Most likely lazy which is funny coming from a super detective like you.

Your dilemma is ridiculous.

Lol Internet tough guys

Your M.O. is to casually dismiss everything with a dash of passive aggressive denial.

Why shouldn't the law be enforced? The burden of proof is on you, not on me.

[ducks]

Study: Illegals Cost 6 Times More to Support Than Deport
The results:
•The average deportation cost in 2016 was $10,854 per illegal.
•The average lifetime net fiscal drain for each illegal is $65,292. Net fiscal drain, according to the report, is taxes paid minus services used.
•The total lifetime fiscal drain of the assumed 11.43 million illegal immigrants living in the United States is $746.3 billion.

The report states that the immigration costs provided by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement do not include fees incurred by immigration courts.


https://cis.org/Report/Deportation-vs-Cost-Letting-Illegal-Immigrants-Stay

[ducks]

so 500 dollar fine is not ok

[Blake]

Study: Illegals Cost 6 Times More to Support Than Deport
The results:
•The average deportation cost in 2016 was $10,854 per illegal.
•The average lifetime net fiscal drain for each illegal is $65,292. Net fiscal drain, according to the report, is taxes paid minus services used.
•The total lifetime fiscal drain of the assumed 11.43 million illegal immigrants living in the United States is $746.3 billion.

The report states that the immigration costs provided by Immigrations and Customs Enforcement do not include fees incurred by immigration courts.


https://cis.org/Report/Deportation-vs-Cost-Letting-Illegal-Immigrants-Stay


Not every situation is the same.

This illegal alien has 4 kids that are American citizens. That changes things.

Lol Internet tough guys

[Mark Celibate]

>illegally enters an area
>gets asked to leave

Why is this a story again?

[Blake]

Your M.O. is to casually dismiss everything with a dash of passive aggressive denial.

Why shouldn't the law be enforced? The burden of proof is on you, not on me.


I specifically asked you to clarify your point of "repercussions". You casually dismissed it because you're a lazy yellow belly.

Where did I say the law shouldn't be enforced?

I'm fine with enforcing the law. I want to see policy change.

Deporting a mother of 4 American citizens doesn't protect us. It's deplorable.

Lol Internet tough guys

[DMC]

I specifically asked you to clarify your point of "repercussions". You casually dismissed it because you're a lazy yellow belly.

Where did I say the law shouldn't be enforced?

I'm fine with enforcing the law. I want to see policy change.

Deporting a mother of 4 American citizens doesn't protect us. It's deplorable.

Lol Internet tough guys

Are you suggesting I have the burden of proof that not enforcing the law has repercussions on case by case basis?

If the kids were born in Mexico too, would it be ok to send them back? Is it not ok to send any illegal aliens back? Should we not have a border?

You're obviously not fine with enforcing the law. You want exceptions based sob story.

[DMC]

Not every situation is the same.

This illegal alien has 4 kids that are American citizens. That changes things.

Lol Internet tough guys

The kids can stay.

lol internet cuck

[DMC]

Besides, she was already deported once. She came back and continued to drop anchors.

[Chris]

Besides, she was already deported once. She came back and continued to drop anchors.

A habitual line stepper, I've nary remorse.

[DMC]

Then they say Obama only deported illegals that committed a crime. I thought illegal was a crime.

[Blake]

Are you suggesting I have the burden of proof that not enforcing the law has repercussions on case by case basis?

If the kids were born in Mexico too, would it be ok to send them back? Is it not ok to send any illegal aliens back? Should we not have a border?

You're obviously not fine with enforcing the law. You want exceptions based sob story.


I'm asking for the repercussions. I don't know how else to ask you for your list of reprercussions. I'm not sure why you're struggling with this request.

Yes, if whole family sneaked over, yes send them all back. Yes, it is okay to send illegal aliens back. I'm okay with a border and border patrol.

I'm okay with enforcing the law. I want to change this ridiculous law.

You gonna answer my question now

[DMC]

I'm asking for the repercussions. I don't know how else to ask you for your list of reprercussions. I'm not sure why you're struggling with this request.

Yes, if whole family sneaked over, yes send them all back. Yes, it is okay to send illegal aliens back. I'm okay with a border and border patrol.

I'm okay with enforcing the law. I want to change this ridiculous law.

You gonna answer my question now
So you want the repercussions of not enforcing the laws on a case by case basis, like I said. That's not a reasonable demand. If you think there are no repercussions, why are you for enforcing laws?

If you sneak in an plant a garden on someone's property, you don't suddenly become a farmer. You are still illegal and you have to leave, but your crops can stay. She should have stayed out when she was deported the 1st time. Then she compounds the issue by driving without a license. If she rear ends someone, she has no insurance. She's breaking several laws, but that's ok for you because she has kids.

So whomever sneaks over can be sent back. She snuck over, she has to go back. They can go with her or stay here. Not an issue, family separate all the time. They knew it was coming, did nothing about it. 17 years to file for something, anything... nada.

[Blake]

The kids can stay.

lol internet cuck


American citizens can stay? I was beginning to wonder.

Lol Internets tough guys

[DMC]

American citizens can stay? I was beginning to wonder.

Lol Internets tough guys

You play this like a moral issue, but turns out you're only concerned about the American citizens. So what's the issue? She's not an American citizen. Who cares what her relationship is to American citizens. Plenty citizens have non-citizen relatives, do they all get free pass?

Your position is indefensible.

[Blake]

So you want the repercussions of not enforcing the laws on a case by case basis, like I said. That's not a reasonable demand.

I think it's a reasonable request to ask the repercussions of letting this woman stay.

Either you're terrified of a Mexican mother in Ohio or you're just sticking to a ridiculous blanket principle just for the sake of being an Internet tough guy.

[Blake]

You play this like a moral issue, but turns out you're only concerned about the American citizens. So what's the issue? She's not an American citizen. Who cares what her relationship is to American citizens. Plenty citizens have non-citizen relatives, do they all get free pass?

Your position is indefensible.

Right because a non-citizen cousin is the same as a non-citizen mother.

I'm really asking, what's the big deal here?

Lemme know when you have that list of dangerous repercussions of letting this woman stay ready, tough guy.

[spurraider21]

Then they say Obama only deported illegals that committed a crime. I thought illegal was a crime.
overstaying a visa is not a criminal matter, it's civil. border crossing/unlawful entry is criminal.

[Chris]

Blake are you familiar with the concept: 'Justice is Blind'? The statue with the two scales and the blindfold? It has nothing to do with being terrified; it's about enforcing the law.

https://statelymcdanielmanor.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/blind-justice1.jpg

[Blake]

Neat.

Are you familiar with "the punishment doesn't fit the crime".

[DMC]

overstaying a visa is not a criminal matter, it's civil. border crossing/unlawful entry is criminal.

I didn't mention overstaying a visa. I said illegal, specifically.

[DMC]

Neat.

Are you familiar with "the punishment doesn't fit the crime".

What? She's not being punished, she's being sent where she came from. That's corrective, not punitive. She'll be free to go anywhere else, even Canada or another country.

[SpursforSix]

Neat.

Are you familiar with "the punishment doesn't fit the crime".

Yeah...can't really deport a mom who has kids over here.

Here's what needs to happen. They make her pick one of her kids to send back. And switch her status to citizen and that kid's to illegal.
Chances are one of her kids was going to grow up to be worthless anyway. She'll probably have a good idea which one.

[Mark Celibate]

So you want the repercussions of not enforcing the laws on a case by case basis, like I said. That's not a reasonable demand. If you think there are no repercussions, why are you for enforcing laws?

If you sneak in an plant a garden on someone's property, you don't suddenly become a farmer. You are still illegal and you have to leave, but your crops can stay. She should have stayed out when she was deported the 1st time. Then she compounds the issue by driving without a license. If she rear ends someone, she has no insurance. She's breaking several laws, but that's ok for you because she has kids.

So whomever sneaks over can be sent back. She snuck over, she has to go back. They can go with her or stay here. Not an issue, family separate all the time. They knew it was coming, did nothing about it. 17 years to file for something, anything... nada.

You hit the nail on the head with this paragraph.

The fact of the matter is retards like this are pure scum and entirely selfish. Why is everybody ignoring that? They know there's a risk of deportation, yet they still knowingly break the law when there's a strong chance they'll leave their kids hanging out to dry. But they keep having more minibeaners and expect a pity party when they're finally caught. The fact that she's already been caught, leaves me feeling absolutely zero remorse when maybe I had .000001 micrograms of remorse when I first read the story. Nobody made her shit out all those turds.

For whatever reason, especially in ghetto be@ner culture, they always make shitty decisions and then play the ":cry but Muh Kids!! :cry" get out of jail free card for every scenario. Their kids are always "precious angels" and we're supposed to excuse the crime just because. I don't understand that brainlet line of thinking. That you can have kid after kid and then knowingly put their lives at risk just seems so fucktarded to me that I can't even see what the opposing argument is. Blakeold's argument that we should just fine them and let them stay here is setting a weird, spineless precedent for trespassing. With that attitude, it's no surprise Jamal came over uncontested DET fateful day, tee hee

Bottom line is you trespassed, so you need to get the fuck out. Shouldn't have had kids but you're too self-centered so now they have to pay the price too. Sucks to suck, but they probably would have ended up in prison anyway with such a shitty upbringing

[Pavlov]

Blake are you familiar with the concept: 'Justice is Blind'? The statue with the two scales and the blindfold? It has nothing to do with being terrified; it's about enforcing the law.

https://statelymcdanielmanor.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/blind-justice1.jpgAdultery is against the law in New York, so Trump should have been put in jail each time he committed adultery there, right?

[Blake]

What? She's not being punished, she's being sent where she came from. That's corrective, not punitive. She'll be free to go anywhere else, even Canada or another country.

Beh...legal semantics.

The kids are being punished.

[Blake]

You hit the nail on the head with this paragraph.

The fact of the matter is retards like this are pure scum and entirely selfish. Why is everybody ignoring that? They know there's a risk of deportation, yet they still knowingly break the law when there's a strong chance they'll leave their kids hanging out to dry. But they keep having more minibeaners and expect a pity party when they're finally caught. The fact that she's already been caught, leaves me feeling absolutely zero remorse when maybe I had .000001 micrograms of remorse when I first read the story. Nobody made her shit out all those turds.

For whatever reason, especially in ghetto be@ner culture, they always make shitty decisions and then play the ":cry but Muh Kids!! :cry" get out of jail free card for every scenario. Their kids are always "precious angels" and we're supposed to excuse the crime just because. I don't understand that brainlet line of thinking. That you can have kid after kid and then knowingly put their lives at risk just seems so fucktarded to me that I can't even see what the opposing argument is. Blakeold's argument that we should just fine them and let them stay here is setting a weird, spineless precedent for trespassing. With that attitude, it's no surprise Jamal came over uncontested DET fateful day, tee hee

Bottom line is you trespassed, so you need to get the fuck out. Shouldn't have had kids but you're too self-centered so now they have to pay the price too. Sucks to suck, but they probably would have ended up in prison anyway with such a shitty upbringing

Wall of tough guy text

[spurraider21]

I didn't mention overstaying a visa. I said illegal, specifically.
people who overstay visas are also illegal immigrants. even saying illegal, specifically, doesn't make that distinction

[Blake]

people who overstay visas are also illegal immigrants. even saying illegal, specifically, doesn't make that distinction

All they gotta do is buy one way tickets here cause we'll pay for the return trip

[DMC]

people who overstay visas are also illegal immigrants. even saying illegal, specifically, doesn't make that distinction

Thanks for that tidbit Philo. I'm sure your new job in that strip mall office will have plenty challenges for your unyielding attention to mundane detail.

[DMC]

It's a done deal already.

They are all Mexicans. Dad has a permit to be in the US, mom is a Mexican citizen. The kids got however many years of US taxpayer subsidized healthcare and education and likely food as well. The gravy train runs out. They can all reconnoiter in Mexico, it's not like they are being executed.

[Chris]

Trump

*ding

[Pavlov]

*dingIt's a law. You're talking about enforcing all the laws on the books.

Do you want this law enforced or not?

[ducks]

Not every situation is the same.

This illegal alien has 4 kids that are American citizens. That changes things.

Lol Internet tough guys
So you say i can break law and get away with it if I start making kids

[spurraider21]

your job
*ding*

[Blake]

They can all reconnoiter in Mexico, it's not like they are being executed.

Eh, if she's lucky she won't get kidnapped

[Blake]

So you say i can break law and get away with it if I start making kids

Well, according to dmc you won't get punished

[DMC]

Beh...legal semantics.

The kids are being punished.

They were already being punished, hauled around by a mother who was running from the law, driving illegally, in the country illegally. They were being forced to harbor an illegal alien.

She's a Mexican in Mexico, she's home. Repatriation isn't a punishment, despite your wishes that it were.

[DMC]

Eh, if she's lucky she won't get kidnapped

Well we know she's not lucky, but if she does it's her countrymen that did it. If they can muster the ransom, they could have applied for a permit for her.

[Pelicans78]

Sucks for the family, but driving without a license wasn't smart especially during a Trump presidency.

[DMC]

Well, according to dmc you won't get punished

I said she wasn't punished. Your argument is so dependent on emotive jargon that you're relegated to strawman arguments.

[Blake]

They were already being punished, hauled around by a mother who was running from the law, driving illegally, in the country illegally. They were being forced to harbor an illegal alien.



Lol

[Blake]

I said she wasn't punished. Your argument is so dependent on emotive jargon that you're relegated to strawman arguments.

That's rich from a dude that's been loading this thread with fallacies

[Blake]

Well we know she's not lucky, but if she does it's her countrymen that did it. If they can muster the ransom, they could have applied for a permit for her.


Or you can let her stay on some kind of probation for a few more months to get her green card.

I don't get the tough guy stance. Keep it up though, it's pretty funny.

[Blake]

I said she wasn't punished. Your argument is so dependent on emotive jargon that you're relegated to strawman arguments.

You said deportation isn't punishment. You're all over the place

[DMC]

Or you can let her stay on some kind of probation for a few more months to get her green card.

I don't get the tough guy stance. Keep it up though, it's pretty funny.

Or she can marry you. Then her lover can fuck her anytime he wants, no questions asked.

[DMC]

You said deportation isn't punishment. You're all over the place

That's not what you answered though. Ducks said break the law, he didn't say anything about deportation. You just inferred it because you're an emotional twat.

[Chris]

So you say i can break law and get away with it if I start making kids

Liberal Logic 101 :lol

[Blake]

Liberal Logic 101 :lol

I don't think ducks is liberal

[Blake]

Or she can marry you. Then her lover can fuck her anytime he wants, no questions asked.

There it is.

Lol

[Blake]

That's not what you answered though. Ducks said break the law, he didn't say anything about deportation. You just inferred it because you're an emotional twat.

I inferred it because it's the topic.

Lol Internet tough guys

[Chris]

It's a law. You're talking about enforcing all the laws on the books.

Do you want this law enforced or not?

Was Trump found guilty of adultery in a court of law? Also do you think everyone that cheats while they are married should be thrown in jail since we're being all inclusive?

[Chris]

I don't think ducks is liberal

Oh I know he isn't, he was clearly talking about you. :lol me and ducks go way back

[Blake]

Oh I know he isn't, he was clearly talking about you. :lol me and ducks go way back

That would explain a lot

[Chris]

Was Trump found guilty of adultery in a court of law? Also do you think everyone that cheats while they are married should be thrown in jail since we're being all inclusive?

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[ducks]

Oh I know he isn't, he was clearly talking about you. :lol me and ducks go way back

Yep