How has Kawhi never gotten a triple double?

[sananspursfan21]

This isn't a troll thread and you can lock it if you'd like but the "dabom is a douche" thread is still alive and kicking so I'm feeling confident. Seriously, correct me if he has had one but with his all-around skill set, I'm very surprised he hasn't. Granted getting a triple double is usually a conscious thing that a player strives for in a game (don't even tell me ol' Russy gets them without trying). For rizzy, I don't get it. Anybody think he'll get one this year?

[BSfromTX]

He's not a natural passer
10 steals is a lot, and blocks as well
limited minutes

[Horse]

Bullshit if green and mills hit half of the great looks he gets them he'd have 20 already.

[BSfromTX]

Maybe so, but he still is not a naturally gifted passer. If he could pass like Manu or Diaw, then he'd have a much better chance

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Bullshit if green and mills hit half of the great looks he gets them he'd have 20 already.

"Great looks" is the LAST thing I associate with Kawhi Leonard. He's arguably the 2nd best player in the league but his passing ability and court vision leave much to be desired. If Lebron's vision and passing are a 10/10 Kawhi's are a 6/10 at best. Direct passes out of double teams are among the least efficient passes in the game in terms of generating open looks. The most efficient passes (not surprisingly) are the trickier ones that come with a lot of off ball movement with screens/back cuts/etc. Although the Spurs no longer have the personnel to generate that kind of ball movement, Kawhi hasn't shown that he'd even be capable of living up to that kind of challenge.

[diego]

Minutes, hard to get one playing 25-30 min

[313]

He's not a natural passer/play maker(although he's made strides in that department), along with limited minutes.. KD, who's a better playmaker/passer, only has 8 in his 10 year career, two coming last season playing with an all star team. Guys like Russ and LeBron make it look easier than it is.

[jARS mEsH sEt]

Developing a genuinely high feel for the passing game is really the only factor keeping Kawhi from being the best player in the league right now. Thankfully as others have mentioned he has been making strides. Slow strides, but it's progress nonetheless.

[DAF86]

When was the last time Pop allowed any of his players to get a triple double? Duncan in 2003 probably.

[Keepin' it real]

How Kawhi no triple double?

NBA conspiracy.

[FkLA]

He's been focusing on being a great scorer. Playmaking is the next step in his evolution. He'll get one next season imo.

[tdominate21]

Kawhi's game is way more efficient than the other triple double chasers. If Kawhi is on pace for one, we are probably up by 20 so pop will sit him. Blame pop for not wanting to run up the score like other coaches in the league.

[RD2191]

Bullshit if green and mills hit half of the great looks he gets them he'd have 20 already.

/thread

[look_at_g_shred]

He's been close a few times but those games iirc were blowouts so no need to push and risk injury

[dabom]

Kawhi's game is way more efficient than the other triple double chasers. If Kawhi is on pace for one, we are probably up by 20 so pop will sit him. Blame pop for not wanting to run up the score like other coaches in the league.

The million dollar answer.

[TheGreatYacht]

Manure and Green build houses, that's why.

[dabom]

Pop gotta scream at Enrique to pass the ball to Kawhi when he gets stats.

[Phenomanul]

When was the last time Pop allowed any of his players to get a triple double? Duncan in 2003 probably.

this tbh...

[TheGreatYacht]

When was the last time Pop allowed any of his players to get a triple double? Duncan in 2003 probably.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUqU7MqiLws&feature=share

[Spur|n|Austin]

Nope. Trade him.

[turkish spurs fan]

"30 points- 10 rebouns -5 blocks (5 steals) " is more valuable than "30 points 10 rebounds 10 assists"

i think.

[cjw]

Let's not forget the Spurs system isn't conducive to high individual assist numbers because of the extra passing. Team will always be high in team assists but much more balanced across the roster.

His rebound numbers are super impressive considering how often he's guarding the best offensive player or ball. Not exactly able to pull a Westbrook and steal boards.

[99 Problems]

Because Pop only gave him the keys to the Caddy 15 minutes ago and in that short time Kawa is bossing the league as it is.

[DMC]

The triple double is the most overrated stat that exists. People who get them regularly touch the ball too much. Getting an assist just means you were the last person who had the ball before the guy who got the score. In a system that espouses ball movement, that's not going to be double digits often. In a system like Houston or OKC, that will be every night since they play a one man game or a two man game, but rarely if ever a 5 man game.

However look at team assists, those are what matters.

[AFBlue]

If his usage continues to go up, it's just a matter of time.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Someone else on the team has to be able to hit a shot when he passes them the ball.

/lockthread

[Drom John]

37 Spurs Triple Doubles (http://bkref.com/tiny/HDJKq)

most recent Tim Duncan 2014-12-05 10 trb, 10 ast, 14 pts; 3 others
Tony Parker once
David Robinson 14 times, one was a quadruple with blocks, eight triples with blocks not assists
Willie Anderson once
Alvin Robertson 8 times, one was a quadruple with steals
David Greenwood once
Mike Mitchell once
Johnny Moore four times
Artis Gilmore once with blocks not assists
John Lucas once

[Drom John]

6 Spurs Playoffs Triple Doubles (http://bkref.com/tiny/KBDiE)

most recent Tim Duncan 2008-05-29, 3 others
David Robinson once
Johnny Moore once

[diego]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUqU7MqiLws&feature=share

OT game, 42 minutes played

[james evans]

it's hard for him to get assists when Green, ginobli aldridge, and Mills are bricking wide open shots. Its hard for him to get rebounds when he's guarding the best player on the other team and forces them into bad jumpers. this is the 3 point era. Kawhi isn't hid on defense and he doesn't sit and wait for a miss to grab the rebound. He's the one causing the misses.

[sasaint]

He's been focusing on being a great scorer. Playmaking is the next step in his evolution. He'll get one next season imo.


If his usage continues to go up, it's just a matter of time.

Barring a trade, the Spurs lack a legit NBA PG. So, Kawhi's usage will continue its upward trend, and he will definitely have to increase his vision/playmaking skill for the Spurs to be true contenders. His first triple double is coming very soon.

[Seventyniner]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUqU7MqiLws&feature=share

Wow, I was at that game and didn't realize Tony had a triple double. The things I remember most from that game were the strong Spurs fan contingent and Asik's bullshit 15-foot bank shot to force OT.

[cd021]

Kawhi will have 5 triple-doubles this season tbh.

[SASdynasty!]

When was the last time Pop allowed any of his players to get a triple double? Duncan in 2003 probably.
Parker: 27/12/12 vs Houston tbh (2012)

Got kind of close against Minnesota too: 55/10/7

[gambit1990]

because he's had to play with tp for so long.

[lefty]

Because of Parker tbh

[cd98]

Not sure why this is so shocking. He plays less minutes, so he gets less time with the ball in his hand. Plus while he has become more ball dominant, the Spurs do have offense that doesn't just run through Kawhi, unlike Westbrook, who played a ton of minutes and had the ball in his hands constantly.

[DMC]

Spurs fans being led by media into the triple double scam, now thinking it needs to happen. Westbrook really did a number on yall.

[sananspursfan21]

Spurs fans being led by media into the triple double scam, now thinking it needs to happen. Westbrook really did a number on yall.

I don't care one way or the other really. I'm not mad or sad. Just a little surprised with his rebounding ability and how much he gets the ball that it didn't happen at some point or another in his recent alpha role. That's all :hat

[DaBears]

Lets not forget that most players that get triple doubles are primary ball handlers, like LBJ, Russ W., to name a few.... KL till last season really wasn't even the 1st option on offense and the ball is primarily controlled by Tp so how is the man suppose to get a Triple.

[Horse]

I remember game after game keeping up with his stats and when he had a 5 assist half or something these fuckers would just start missing open looks.

[eric365]

OT game, 42 minutes played

If it was manu you would have never said that

[LkrFan]

This isn't a troll thread and you can lock it if you'd like but the "dabom is a douche" thread is still alive and kicking so I'm feeling confident. Seriously, correct me if he has had one but with his all-around skill set, I'm very surprised he hasn't. Granted getting a triple double is usually a conscious thing that a player strives for in a game (don't even tell me ol' Russy gets them without trying). For rizzy, I don't get it. Anybody think he'll get one this year?

Good thread. I've seen Dr. Dray notch a few triple dubs already...to go with his 2 rangs, and DPOY. Dr. Dray is a bad dude. :)

[Galileo]

I project a triple double for KaWon in 2017-18.

[diego]

If it was manu you would have never said that

No different than manus 48 points coming in a OT game, hard to have big counting stats in low minutes. Anyone who has followed the Spurs during the big 3 Era knows that pops minutes rotation, pace and team style of play made /makes it very difficult for our guys to have gaudy stats. The point isn't to belittle Tony, the point is that our guys rarely play those kind of minutes.

Westbrook actually has a good amount of 30 minutes or less triple doubles, that can happen when you are an elite rebounding pg playing with a scoring champ. The majority though are a product of high minutes, usage, pace, and selfishness, all things pop avoids.

[couchman]

He's not an amazing passer, so it would take a very special game for him to get 10 assists. He's never had more than 7 in a game.