Sports Illustrated: Kobe Bryant is one of the most overrated players of all time

[Splits]

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Tough to disagree.

[midnightpulp]

Things we know.

[Fabbs]

Outside of Casual Phan / Laker Bois-Warriors Bois this is well known.
Old news.

[ambchang]

Ice is cold.

[Jodelo]

Water is wet

[BD24]

Hahaha I am sure this guy is getting so much hate from the Kobe fanboys and casuals. Might post this on my facebook wall to watch the Kobe lovers heads explode, my brother in law and a few friends are incredible Kobe Homeres. Of course they love Westbrooks faggot ass as well. :lol

[Clipper Nation]

There are three certainties in life: death, taxes, and Kobe Bryant being a terrible basketball player.

[Clipper Nation]

Hahaha I am sure this guy is getting so much hate from the Kobe fanboys and casuals. Might post this on my facebook wall to watch the Kobe lovers heads explode, my brother in law and a few friends are incredible Kobe Homeres. Of course they love Westbrooks faggot ass as well. :lol
Good to know they're upgrading from a scrub like Kobe to a true alpha like Westbrook, tbh.

[monosylab1k]

He whines about Kobe benefiting from lucky circumstances, then negates everything by saying he'd take Wade over Kobe. Nobody on the fucking planet has benefited more from lucky bullshit circumstances than Dwyane Wade.

[DMC]

I guess he wasn't part of the ass sucking of Kobe during those tenuous seasons. He comes along now, after the confetti has dropped, after all the parading around like the fucking Pope, to now call Kobe out, now that no one cares. And like Mono said, Wade had to get Shaq to ring 1st time, Lebron to ever get back there.

[FkLA]

Uh Wade was the clear cut alpha when Shaq was there. With Kirby, it's arguable even during LA's back to back titles. Everything other than PPG suggests MVPau was more valuable. Their massive frontline in general was their biggest weapon.

With that said I don't know if id I'd take Wade over him. But he's certainly closer to Wade than he is to real recent legends like Timmy and LeGOAT, tbh.

[apalisoc_9]

Things we know.

Things we agree on..

[UZER]

Screaming A will have a melt down retort to right the ship for the casuals.

[IronMexican]

Uh Wade was the clear cut alpha when Shaq was there. With Kirby, it's arguable even during LA's back to back titles. Everything other than PPG suggests MVPau was more valuable. Their massive frontline in general was their biggest weapon.

With that said I don't know if id I'd take Wade over him. But he's certainly closer to Wade than he is to real recent legends like Timmy and LeGOAT, tbh.

I think Kobe is better than Wade(clearly better imo). He had a longer peak. Had Wade not gotten injured so much, it would be closer. Agree with the second point, though, about LeBron.

[Koolaid_Man]

who cares....fact is Tammy was and still is a butt pirate cucked by a broke ass 5 foot illegal alien...whatever makes you losers feel good I guess. LOL

[Spurtacular]

I'd take Paul Pierce over Kobe, tbh.

[LkrFan]

...but someone who lost 5 Finals is a Mt Rushmore player? :rolleyes

[Chucho]

Ive said it before, he is the Greatest Beta of All Time. There is nothing wrong with unseating Pippen for that Tiara.

[ambchang]

I'd take Paul Pierce over Kobe, tbh.

Pierce has been criminally underrated his entire career. Should have been drafted way higher too.

Outside of lebron, I'd take Pierce over every single perimeter player in the 10s.

[FkLA]

Pierce is overrated af imo. Nothing about him ever stood out before they got KG and Allen. I'd take Kirby, Tmac, Vince, Wade, Ginobili over him easily. Probably even prime Allen too.

[RsxPiimp]

Pierce has been criminally underrated his entire career. Should have been drafted way higher too.

Outside of lebron, I'd take Pierce over every single perimeter player in the 10s.
:lmao

[RsxPiimp]

Pierce is overrated af imo. Nothing about him ever stood out before they got KG and Allen. I'd take Kirby, Tmac, Vince, Wade, Ginobili over him easily. Probably even prime Allen too.

thank you

pierce doesnt even deserve the 08 Finals mvp tbh

[Spurtacular]

Pierce has been criminally underrated his entire career. Should have been drafted way higher too.

Outside of lebron, I'd take Pierce over every single perimeter player in the 10s.

Prime vs prime, I'd maybe consider Pierce still. He was a bad-ass scorer. But Lebron has the better arch of dominance.

[Medvedenko]

You knock Kobe, you marganilze Duncan. Facts, you can't have it both ways.

[namlook]

No one can objectively say that Kobe's career has not been better than that of Wade or Pierce. He accomplished more individually and in terms of team success.

[DMC]

...but someone who lost 5 Finals is a Mt Rushmore player? :rolleyes

Mr Clutch, aka Logo, lost 9 finals.

[DMC]

You knock Kobe, you marganilze Duncan. Facts, you can't have it both ways.

No. We think Shaq and Pau were peachy.

[Spurtacular]

No one can objectively say that Kobe's career has not been better than that of Wade or Pierce. He accomplished more individually and in terms of team success.

Wait; did Kobe play with Shaq or Antoine Walker (with all due respect to Toine)? Or are you just fan of making overly simplistic arguments?

[LkrFan]

Mr Clutch, aka Logo, lost 9 finals.

We've gone thru this before. SMH

Those loaded Celtic teams were permanently intact. With no free agency, no way to poach Sam Jones, Havlicek, Cousy or Russell. So of course they kept winning.

Besides, Logo, at least to my recollection, was NEVER considered a Mt Rushmore player. Greatest Laker? Yes. My Rushmore? No. That's the difference between him and LeHype.

[Clipper Nation]

No one can objectively say that Kobe's career has not been better than that of Wade or Pierce. He accomplished more individually and in terms of team success.
:lmao

[Xevious]

Kobe is overrated
Water is wet
Grass is green
Kool is a tranny-chasing faggot
Luva is a gay-cartoon watching faggot

Facts of life.

[ambchang]

:lmao

The he emoji movie is out, you ar definitely it's target.


You knock Kobe, you marganilze Duncan. Facts, you can't have it both ways.

Not sure how it works. Explain.



No one can objectively say that Kobe's career has not been better than that of Wade or Pierce. He accomplished more individually and in terms of team success.

I don't question that either. I think Kobe is more accomplished but that was due to circumstances. Pierce and wade are similar players and they didn't have the teams Kobe did. Pierce could've won multiple championships with prime shaq or with the most loaded frontline (he won one and lost when a few key players got injured). These three are all mariginal championship winning caliber players. I think the three are interchangeable for the most part but would rank wade the lowest of the three.

[Koolaid_Man]

I don't question that either. I think Kobe is more accomplished but that was due to circumstances. Pierce and wade are similar players and they didn't have the teams Kobe did. Pierce could've won multiple championships with prime shaq or with the most loaded frontline (he won one and lost when a few key players got injured). These three are all mariginal championship winning caliber players. I think the three are interchangeable for the most part but would rank wade the lowest of the three.


^ ohhh does the baby feel better now....:lol still have nightmares of Kobe dicking yall down? :lol

FACTS - Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom will not make the hall of fame....in fact they're not all star players. Pussy Gasol will barely and I mean barely make it. Don't forget he was literally like 0-19 in playoffs without Kobe. Meaning prior to the Lakers and when Kobe tore his achilles Pussy Gasol FAILED TO WIN A SINGLE GAME ON HIS OWN :lmao now....how do you like dem apples boy. :lol Loaded front line my ass....Kobe went back to back no Shaq with Pussy Gasoft. Back to Back no Shaq. Do you know how hard it is to win back to back titles? No? Let me help you out. LMAO...The Spurs have 5 titles and NOT ONCE were they ever good enough or capable to win back to back.....but guess what....Kobe went back to back NO SHAQ. :lmao..I know for a fact this makes you pussy boys so angry and frustrated so being the kind hearted nigga that I am I will repeat.....Kobe went BACK to BACK no SHAQ. Tammy Tits has never done something as difficult and Kobe did it in a loaded Western Conference...So let me speak on behalf of Kobe and say: " Go ahead be mad and also Suck my muthafucking Dick." :toast

[Koolaid_Man]

Back to Back NO Shaq

:bobo:bobo:bobo

[DMC]

We've gone thru this before. SMH

Those loaded Celtic teams were permanently intact. With no free agency, no way to poach Sam Jones, Havlicek, Cousy or Russell. So of course they kept winning.

Besides, Logo, at least to my recollection, was NEVER considered a Mt Rushmore player. Greatest Laker? Yes. My Rushmore? No. That's the difference between him and LeHype.

That's not the point. The point is that the NBA logo, Jerry West, lost 9 finals and he's still considered one of the greatest players of all time. You have to make it to the finals to lose there. Sure Lebron has lost 5 times in the Finals - that's because he got his team there in the 1st place.

Do you think the 2007 Cavs should have won the Finals?
Should the Cavs have beaten the Warriors last year?
Cavs had to come back from a 3-1 deficit in 2016.

When has Lebron had a juggernaut team? San Antonio almost beat Miami in 2013 and trounced them in 2014.

Maybe you should re-examine the other faces of your basketball Rushmore as well.

[Koolaid_Man]

you pussy boys are out of excuses

Back to Back No Shaq....Shaq never won a single thing prior to Kobe...and he had plenty of Chances....but unfortunately his ass was busy getting swept in Finals when he played with a another loaded team in Orlando....with Sir Penny Hardaway. Now that Kobe went back to back no Shaq it's prooof Shaq needed Kobe way more than Kobe needed Shaq. None of the guys you say could have replaced Kobe ever won a title on their own...let alone back to back.

Paul Pierce didn't win until he had 3 or 4 hall of fame players on his team and even then the nigga only won 1 title
KG same thing as Pierce
T-Mac no rings
Marbury no rings
Nash no rings
Iverson no rings
Vince Carter no rings
Ray Allen same as Pierce and KG
Dirk one ring
Shaq 1 ring without Kobe
Duncan 5 rings but one on a locked out season (asterisk) and has NEVER NOT ONCE won back to back so all of his rings are suspect on some real shit tbh

[Koolaid_Man]

I can single-handedly destroy every talking point and excuse you pussy boys come up with because you're butthurt :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

and LOL at poor ass Clippa Nation....that nigga is thirsty ass fuck....going around sucking any superstars dick that he can find

[Leetonidas]

^ ohhh does the baby feel better now....:lol still have nightmares of Kobe dicking yall down? :lol

FACTS - Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom will not make the hall of fame....in fact they're not all star players. Pussy Gasol will barely and I mean barely make it. Don't forget he was literally like 0-19 in playoffs without Kobe. Meaning prior to the Lakers and when Kobe tore his achilles Pussy Gasol FAILED TO WIN A SINGLE GAME ON HIS OWN :lmao now....how do you like dem apples boy. :lol Loaded front line my ass....Kobe went back to back no Shaq with Pussy Gasoft. Back to Back no Shaq. Do you know how hard it is to win back to back titles? No? Let me help you out. LMAO...The Spurs have 5 titles and NOT ONCE were they ever good enough or capable to win back to back.....but guess what....Kobe went back to back NO SHAQ. :lmao..I know for a fact this makes you pussy boys so angry and frustrated so being the kind hearted nigga that I am I will repeat.....Kobe went BACK to BACK no SHAQ. Tammy Tits has never done something as difficult and Kobe did it in a loaded Western Conference...So let me speak on behalf of Kobe and say: " Go ahead be mad and also Suck my muthafucking Dick." :toast
Kobe post Pau: consistently missing the playoffs before being forced to retire

Pau post Kobe: 4 playoff series wins and still going

These are facts.

[Koolaid_Man]

Kobe post Pau: consistently missing the playoffs before being forced to retire

Pau post Kobe: 4 playoff series wins and still going

These are facts.


LOL just 4 series wins after Kobe. :lmao in Chicago and in SA? just 4 huh? :lol any titles with those 4 wins? those "facts" you mention are irrelevant. What did Pussy Gasoft do in his prime? He went 0-19 without Kobe when he was the leader of his own gotdam team. So a real intuitive thinker can't help but conclude that some nigga named Kobe showed this white soft pussy nigga how to win. But here's the laugher.....what has those 4 count em 4 post Kobe wins meant for Pussy Pau? :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Like when I started on this site...you fuck boys still are no match for my knowledge of the game....yall some lame ass hoes to be honest.

[LkrFan]

That's not the point. The point is that the NBA logo, Jerry West, lost 9 finals and he's still considered one of the greatest players of all time. You have to make it to the finals to lose there. Sure Lebron has lost 5 times in the Finals - that's because he got his team there in the 1st place.

Do you think the 2007 Cavs should have won the Finals?
Should the Cavs have beaten the Warriors last year?
Cavs had to come back from a 3-1 deficit in 2016.

When has Lebron had a juggernaut team? San Antonio almost beat Miami in 2013 and trounced them in 2014.

Maybe you should re-examine the other faces of your basketball Rushmore as well.

If LeBron played in the Western Conference his whole career, how many Finals would he actually appear in? I say 1, tops. He'd have to go through the Lakers, Spurs, Blazers, Suns, and now the Dubs - annually. Not happening. So stop bragging about his 5 Finals appearances. Just say he made it out the lEast 5 times. That's more palatable for non-LeHype nut huggers.

Giving him credit for making out the least 5 times is like saying a married man bragging to his boys that his young bride let him hit it on their honeymoon. Isn't that what's supposed to happen? :lol

[DMC]

If LeBron played in the Western Conference his whole career, how many Finals would he actually appear in? I say 1, tops. He'd have to go through the Lakers, Spurs, Blazers, Suns, and now the Dubs - annually. Not happening. So stop bragging about his 5 Finals appearances. Just say he made it out the lEast 5 times. That's more palatable for non-LeHype nut huggers.

Giving him credit for making out the least 5 times is like saying a married man bragging to his boys that his young bride let him hit it on their honeymoon. Isn't that what's supposed to happen? :lol

We don't have the option to go to a parallel universe to see how things would play out. It's pointless to argue from hypothetical scenarios because they cannot be validated. Half the league is in the East. He made it out of the conference he was in. That's all any team ever did... ever. MJ was in the East his entire career as well.

Why hasn't any other player made 7 consecutive Finals appearances in the modern era NBA? Why can't any other player from the East or West do that?

[LkrFan]

We don't have the option to go to a parallel universe to see how things would play out. It's pointless to argue from hypothetical scenarios because they cannot be validated. Half the league is in the East. He made it out of the conference he was in. That's all any team ever did... ever. MJ was in the East his entire career as well.

Why hasn't any other player made 7 consecutive Finals appearances in the modern era NBA? Why can't any other player from the East or West do that?

So now you comparing the East MJ played in to the one LeHype plays in right now? :wow

[DMC]

So now you comparing the East MJ played in to the one LeHype plays in right now? :wow

You can only play who they put in front of you. He's beaten every team for 7 consecutive years, on two different teams with varied rosters. He got Cleveland their first and only ring, playing with two "stars" who couldn't get their teams to the playoffs in the East.

How good was the East that MJ beat them repeatedly? Revisionists abound on this forum.

He's not MJ level, but he's in the top 4 players all time.

[namlook]

I don't question that either. I think Kobe is more accomplished but that was due to circumstances. Pierce and wade are similar players and they didn't have the teams Kobe did. Pierce could've won multiple championships with prime shaq or with the most loaded frontline (he won one and lost when a few key players got injured). These three are all mariginal championship winning caliber players. I think the three are interchangeable for the most part but would rank wade the lowest of the three.

Ifs and buts if circumstances were different don't carry any weight since they have no basis in fact. Players are judged on what they did, not what they might have been able to do if life had dealt them a better hand.

Kobe sealed the deal > Pierce and Wade when he went to the finals three times and won back to back with Gasol who had never won a playoff game.

Pierce had Garnett and Allen who were still at an all-star caliber at that stage of their careers and only managed one.

Wade had Bosh, who was equivalent to Gasol, and an all-time top 10 player in his prime, and got the same two that Kobe won when Wade had far more talent around him.

[LkrFan]

You can only play who they put in front of you. He's beaten every team for 7 consecutive years, on two different teams with varied rosters. He got Cleveland their first and only ring, playing with two "stars" who couldn't get their teams to the playoffs in the East.

How good was the East that MJ beat them repeatedly? Revisionists abound on this forum.

He's not MJ level, but he's in the top 4 players all time.

No, he's not. He couldn't beat the Celtics so he colluded with the class of 2003. To have 3 of the best players in your draft class - it better lead to Finals appearances - especially in the East. He choked in 2011, got bailed out in 2012 by Battier, got bailed out again by Ray Allen in 2013, and was a Dr. Dray suspension away from being light another rang in 2015.

To put it into further context, LeHype lost to a Western Conference team 5 times in the Finals. Kobe, OTOH, beat the West 7 times and won it all 5 times. LeHype's proven nothing to me, no matter how you :downspin: it.

[DMC]

No, he's not. He couldn't beat the Celtics so he colluded with the class of 2003. To have 3 of the best players in your draft class - it better lead to Finals appearances - especially in the East. He choked in 2011, got bailed out in 2012 by Battier, got bailed out again by Ray Allen in 2013, and was a Dr. Dray suspension away from being light another rang in 2015.
The Celtics were colluding. You do what you have to do to win. He did.

You either win or you don't. All the little bullshit caveats in between are just fan yap.


To put it into further context, LeHype lost to a Western Conference team 5 times in the Finals. Kobe, OTOH, beat the West 7 times and won it all 5 times. LeHype's proven nothing to me, no matter how you :downspin: it.

But no one outside of Lakerbe@ners think Kobe is in the same conversation as Lebron and Mike.

[namlook]

But no one outside of Lakerbe@ners think Kobe is in the same conversation as Lebron and Mike.

No one objective thinks Wade and Pierce are in the same conversation as Kobe. Lebron still only has three. There's no way he can be compared to Jordan if Jordan ends up doubling his ring count.

[Koolaid_Man]

But no one outside of Lakerbe@ners think Kobe is in the same conversation as Lebron and Mike.

Ohh with the except of MJ, Bird, Dr J, Kareem, Hakeem, Dominique Wilkens, Jerry West and most all the other all-time greats including every player of his
own generation and Lebron's generation it's clear you dont know what in the fuck you're talking about....as for the Media and butt hurt coach potatoes such as yourself then you may have a point....but to those who played the game and actually know 95% of all players former and current pick Kobe....including DWade and Kyrie Irving who played with the shrimp dick nigga,...and you even got POP and Leonard sucking Kobe's dick asking him to train and work with Leonard :lol


this was just last week....MJ reset this again....so yall need to shut the fuck up on this....

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20227286/michael-jordan-ranks-kobe-bryant-lebron-james
y?
PS: I do find it Ironic that Magic, Tim Duncan, John Amechi, and Jason Collins all pick Lebron over Kobe...hmmmm wonder why? :lmao:lmao:lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

sorry for this....:lol



Dwyane Wade: ‘Kobe Bryant is the greatest player of our era’

I do feel — and I’ve said this before the last couple of years with LeBron [James], when he became the best player in our game — that Kobe Bryant is the greatest player of our era,” Wade said. “The Kobe Bryants aren’t around no more. There are good young players, but there will never be another Kobe. So every opportunity you get to [face him], you want to seize that moment.”

[Koolaid_Man]

Dirk: Kobe 'greatest player in my generation'

Dirk went in deep: (no homo)


“He’s probably the greatest player in my generation that I played against,” said Nowitzki, who has 27,239 career points and will likely pass Elvin Hayes and Moses Malone over the next few weeks to move up to seventh on the list. “Obviously Shaq was very dominant, Tim Duncan (http://espn.com/nba/player/_/id/215/tim-duncan) was great, but I just loved watching Kobe. I don’t think there will ever be another MJ, but he’s definitely as close as it gets that we’ll ever see.


“He had it all. He’s a clutch player, can make shots from anywhere. I’ve had a blast from watching him during his career very closely. That’s a heck of an accomplishment for sure.”

[Koolaid_Man]

Kobe with the Collusion.....LOL

In the visitor’s locker room inside Oracle Arena a short time after hitting one of the biggest shots in NBA history to win the NBA Finals for the Cleveland Cavaliers last June, Kyrie Irving pulled out his phone. He didn’t use it to take a picture of the celebration unfolding around him, or to call a family member.

Instead, he called Kobe Bryant. In fact, he FaceTimed him.


It was a moment Irving had to share with his idol, the future Hall of Famer who has befriended the young guard during his early years in the NBA. And now that Irving has thrust himself squarely into the middle of the NBA rumor mill for some time to come thanks to telling Cavaliers Owner Dan Gilbert he wishes to be traded, it’s easy to see how Bryant’s influence has shaped him.

[Koolaid_Man]

Kevin Durant:



"I did idolize Kobe Bryant. I studied him, wanted to be like him. He was our Michael Jordan. I watched Michael toward the end of his career with the Wizards (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/page/WAS/washington-wizards) and I seen that's what Kobe emerged as the guy for us. I've been disappointed this year because you guys (media) treated him like s***. He's a legend and all I hear is about how bad he's playing, how bad he's shooting, time for him to hang it up. You guys treated one of our legends like s*** and I didn't really like it.


"Hopefully now you can start being nice to him now that he decided to retire after this year. It was sad the way he was getting treated. He had just an amazing career, a guy who changed the game for me as a player mentally and physically. Means so much to the game of basketball. Someone I'm always gonna look to advice for anything. Just a brilliant, brilliant, intelligent man. Sad to see him go. He put his mark on the game."

[Koolaid_Man]

Do yall suckas really want me to continue:


Shaquille O'Neal says he'd take Kobe Bryant in his prime over LeBron
Shaq said that he'd take Kobe Bryant over LeBron James, and he's played with both of them.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/shaquille-oneal-says-hed-take-kobe-bryant-in-his-prime-over-lebron/

[Koolaid_Man]

Derick Rose:



Kobe, he's someone that I've looked up to ever since I came into the league. Someone that always gave me advice about my game, just coming into the league. He's seen how hard I worked and for him and all his accolades and his résumé ... I think that he's leaving the game in some good hands. Kobe is going to be a legend no matter what. He's our [generation's] Michael Jordan.

[Koolaid_Man]

I love how Kobe snubbed Duncan: :lol



Kobe's top players: Hakeem Olajuwon, Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant, LeBron James, Clyde Drexler.

— Mark Medina (@MarkG_Medina) December 21, 2015 (https://twitter.com/MarkG_Medina/status/679045542572257280)

[Koolaid_Man]

Tony Parker:



Kobe is the Michael Jordan of my generation

[Koolaid_Man]

Kobe gives his assessment of Bruce Bowen and Kawhi Leonard after Pop asks Kobe to mentor Kiwi Fruit. LOL


It's very difficult to give you a very intelligent … I could give you a BS answer but it's hard to make that comparison. I saw Bruce so many times. Kawhi I've only played against one-and-a-half times and nothing at a really high level of a matchup. So it's very hard for me to compare the two. From what I see on TV Bruce uses length a lot more. He was kind of in and out, tapping the arms and trying to break your rhythm, things of that nature. Kawhi tends to use his body a lot more and plays position a lot more. But they both have phenomenal hands.

for the record..Kiwi fruit would have gotten torched by a prime Kobe far worse than the abuse that Bowen was forced to endure from Kobe :lol

[ambchang]

^ ohhh does the baby feel better now....:lol still have nightmares of Kobe dicking yall down? :lol

FACTS - Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom will not make the hall of fame....in fact they're not all star players. Pussy Gasol will barely and I mean barely make it. Don't forget he was literally like 0-19 in playoffs without Kobe. Meaning prior to the Lakers and when Kobe tore his achilles Pussy Gasol FAILED TO WIN A SINGLE GAME ON HIS OWN :lmao now....how do you like dem apples boy. :lol Loaded front line my ass....Kobe went back to back no Shaq with Pussy Gasoft. Back to Back no Shaq. Do you know how hard it is to win back to back titles? No? Let me help you out. LMAO...The Spurs have 5 titles and NOT ONCE were they ever good enough or capable to win back to back.....but guess what....Kobe went back to back NO SHAQ. :lmao..I know for a fact this makes you pussy boys so angry and frustrated so being the kind hearted nigga that I am I will repeat.....Kobe went BACK to BACK no SHAQ. Tammy Tits has never done something as difficult and Kobe did it in a loaded Western Conference...So let me speak on behalf of Kobe and say: " Go ahead be mad and also Suck my muthafucking Dick." :toast

B2b is extremely hard because it means that you are likely not over reliant on one player/style of play as injuries, matchups, consistency of play plays a huge role in championships. Some of the best teams of all time never repeated, 86 Celtics, 72 lakers, wilt 6ers, 83 sixers. To say a player won b2b as the sole reason shows your ignorance. The only other possibility is that the team gets lucky, like how the Warriors had been the last few years with injuries to opponents.

Teams that won multiple championships over a long period of time like the Spurs did means that there are components that are consistently championship winning, but they need breaks.

Kobe has proven to be the type of player who has shown over and over that he cannot lead teams to any type of success without a strong frontline. The reason is that he needs the players in the low post to clean up his missed shots, and either set screens or attract defensive attention away from him for him to shoot. It is a shame that you can be watching him for 20 years without realizing it.

[Koolaid_Man]

B2b is extremely hard because it means that you are likely not over reliant on one player/style of play as injuries, matchups, consistency of play plays a huge role in championships. Some of the best teams of all time never repeated, 86 Celtics, 72 lakers, wilt 6ers, 83 sixers. To say a player won b2b as the sole reason shows your ignorance. Well, that it lucky.

Teams that won multiple championships over a long period of time like the Spurs did means that there are components that are consistently championship winning, but they need breaks.

Kobe has proven to be the type of player who has shown over and over that he cannot lead teams to any type of success without a strong frontline. The reason is that he needs the players in the low post to clean up his missed shots, and either set screens or attract defensive attention away from him for him to shoot. It is a shame that you can be watching him for 20 years without realizing it.

If you didn't win back to back...your titles are suspect as FUCK....now get the fuck on...your titles are tainted....no good basically a fucking fluke.

[Koolaid_Man]

Tracy McGrady on Kobe Bryant: ‘He’s the best player that I ever faced’

[Koolaid_Man]

of course I had to include the greatest white player of all time and in my view LArry Bird is better than Lebron to be honest.


Larry Bird said he’d pick Kobe over LeBron to be his teammate (http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/1042671-larry-bird-kobe-bryant-lebron-james-bill-simmons-teammate-choice)



Bird, now the Pacers president of basketball operations, added, "If you want to have fun, like I did with Bill Walton, play with LeBron. It would have probably been more fun to play with LeBron, but if you want to win and win and win, it's Kobe. Not that LeBron's not a winner, just that (Kobe's) mindset is to go into every practice, every game, to get better."

[Clipper Nation]

Kevin Durant:
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[ambchang]

Ifs and buts if circumstances were different don't carry any weight since they have no basis in fact. Players are judged on what they did, not what they might have been able to do if life had dealt them a better hand.

Kobe sealed the deal > Pierce and Wade when he went to the finals three times and won back to back with Gasol who had never won a playoff game.

Pierce had Garnett and Allen who were still at an all-star caliber at that stage of their careers and only managed one.

Wade had Bosh, who was equivalent to Gasol, and an all-time top 10 player in his prime, and got the same two that Kobe won when Wade had far more talent around him.

I agree that's why I said Kobe undoubtedly had the best career of the three.

I can't though, understand how laker fans can consistently underrate the gasol,odom,Bynum front line. That is a monster frontline that can pass, facilitate, score and defend. It was extremely versatile and while it certainly isn't as good as the bird,Celtics,mchale frontline or other monster frontlines in NBA history, it is the type of frontline that is ridiculously difficult to handle. It is difficult for the opposition to score over three long inside players and difficult to defend on the other end eight these players seeing over the defense and whipping passes above their heads.

Wade had bosh. He wasn't as good as gasol during those b2b years. He didn't even have any other frontline player other than bosh that's on the same caliber as Bynum, let alone odom. Sure he's got lebron though.

Garnett was way past his prime with the Celtics, still all star caliber for sure, but he's about gasol level. Allen is the other extremely overrated player in the 00s. Besides, we are talking about frontlines. Finally, the Celtics got unlucky breaks with injuries and a mysterious 20 fta disparity against them in game 7. They played even throughout the series but then suddenly, they just mysteriously start fouling on every single playe. Weird.

[Koolaid_Man]

man I'm having a really good time busting Spur fan boys chops on this one.....all you losers got on your side is the faggot ass media....but to those whom it really matters....they all Pick Kobe....and if D Wade, Kyrie Irving, and Shaq Daddy all pick Kobe after having played with Lebron then really yall need to STFU already....case closed

[ambchang]

Kobe gives his assessment of Bruce Bowen and Kawhi Leonard after Pop asks Kobe to mentor Kiwi Fruit. LOL



for the record..Kiwi fruit would have gotten torched by a prime Kobe far worse than the abuse that Bowen was forced to endure from Kobe :lol

Getting outscored by Bruce Bowen
Spreading rumours about the Spurs asking him to train kawhi, then kawhi came out to flat out say he didn't asked to be mentored nor was he mentored.

Kobe did the retirement tour purely to stroke his own ego and the players went along. He's undoubtedly bankable, and NBA doing better is good for all of them. Saying Kobe is the best is like saying the dying kid in the hospital is he best classmate I ever had and the most generous person ever. Only someone as guillable as you would fall for it. Besides, which former player became a great GM?

[Koolaid_Man]

I agree that's why I said Kobe undoubtedly had the best career of the three.

I can't though, understand how laker fans can consistently underrate the gasol,odom,Bynum front line. That is a monster frontline that can pass, facilitate, score and defend. It was extremely versatile and while it certainly isn't as good as the bird,Celtics,mchale frontline or other monster frontlines in NBA history, it is the type of frontline that is ridiculously difficult to handle. It is difficult for the opposition to score over three long inside players and difficult to defend on the other end eight these players seeing over the defense and whipping passes above their heads.

Wade had bosh. He wasn't as good as gasol during those b2b years. He didn't even have any other frontline player other than bosh that's on the same caliber as Bynum, let alone odom. Sure he's got lebron though.

Garnett was way past his prime with the Celtics, still all star caliber for sure, but he's about gasol level. Allen is the other extremely overrated player in the 00s. Besides, we are talking about frontlines. Finally, the Celtics got unlucky breaks with injuries and a mysterious 20 fta disparity against them in game 7. They played even throughout the series but then suddenly, they just mysteriously start fouling on every single playe. Weird.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH trying in vain to overhype Bynum and Pau by foolishly and ridicoulsly trying to compare them to Bosh and Lebron....someone needs to take you out back and put a bullet up your rectum...you fucking retarded piece of shit :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Getting outscored by Bruce Bowen
Spreading rumours about the Spurs asking him to train kawhi, then kawhi came out to flat out say he didn't asked to be mentored nor was he mentored.

Kobe did the retirement tour purely to stroke his own ego and the players went along. He's undoubtedly bankable, and NBA doing better is good for all of them. Saying Kobe is the best is like saying the dying kid in the hospital is he best classmate I ever had and the most generous person ever. Only someone as guillable as you would fall for it. Besides, which former player became a great GM?

You're just ass hurt and sour....LOL its' ok we get it. It's hard to accept that 95 plus % of all former and current players love and prefer Kobe....no one really talks about that faggot you cheer for. That must be hard to accept. As for your 2nd question....Try Jerry West and Larry bird. lol the fact alone that MJ prefers Kobe is really itching your asshole . bye fool ...LOL

[LkrFan]

Kool went IN with no Vaseline! :lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

and for he record POP asked Kobe to mentor Kiwi fruit...and as for Kobe's final season it was deserved....TAmmy tits went out like a straight bitch and a faggot. No one cared...no one noticed....and the nigga got his last shot blocked and fell flat on his fucking ass YO....:lmao

[RsxPiimp]

..someone needs to take you out back and put a bullet up your rectum...you fucking retarded piece of shit :lol

:lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

Kool went IN with no Vaseline! :lmao

just doing what I do homie....every so often gotta reminds these newbies how savage real Laker fans are....some of these new SPur fan fuckboys don't know how smart a nigga and viscious I am....I have to embarass these so called old posters like AMB to put their punk asses in check.

[ambchang]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH trying in vain to overhype Bynum and Pau by foolishly and ridicoulsly trying to compare them to Bosh and Lebron....someone needs to take you out back and put a bullet up your rectum...you fucking retarded piece of shit :lol

If you are not a retard you would have understood that it was bosh to gasol and we are talking about frontline players. But then you are a retard.


You're just ass hurt and sour....LOL its' ok we get it. It's hard to accept that 95 plus % of all former and current players love and prefer Kobe....no one really talks about that faggot you cheer for. That must be hard to accept. As for your 2nd question....Try Jerry West and Larry bird. lol the fact alone that MJ prefers Kobe is really itching your asshole . bye fool ...LOL

MJ is one of the worst talent evaluators ever. Bird sucked as a GM. West was the unicorn. He also decided not to move up to draft Kobe and only did the trade to get cap room for shaq.

Players prefer Kobe. Lol. They love embarrassing him in the last few years.

And shooting 39% and scoring 17 Opg against Leonard. :lol.

[ambchang]

Kool went IN with no Vaseline! :lmao

Explains why you guys are kobestans because you guys can't even tell what is going on most of the time.

[DMC]

Koolaids melting down ITT

[BD24]

Shame the faggot Koolaid decided to come around again.

Hopefully its just a cameo and he goes back to dropping the fries in the deep fryer or whatever it is they have his african ass doing.

[namlook]

I agree that's why I said Kobe undoubtedly had the best career of the three.

I can't though, understand how laker fans can consistently underrate the gasol,odom,Bynum front line. That is a monster frontline that can pass, facilitate, score and defend. It was extremely versatile and while it certainly isn't as good as the bird,Celtics,mchale frontline or other monster frontlines in NBA history, it is the type of frontline that is ridiculously difficult to handle. It is difficult for the opposition to score over three long inside players and difficult to defend on the other end eight these players seeing over the defense and whipping passes above their heads.

Wade had bosh. He wasn't as good as gasol during those b2b years. He didn't even have any other frontline player other than bosh that's on the same caliber as Bynum, let alone odom. Sure he's got lebron though.

Garnett was way past his prime with the Celtics, still all star caliber for sure, but he's about gasol level. Allen is the other extremely overrated player in the 00s. Besides, we are talking about frontlines. Finally, the Celtics got unlucky breaks with injuries and a mysterious 20 fta disparity against them in game 7. They played even throughout the series but then suddenly, they just mysteriously start fouling on every single playe. Weird.

The years they won Bynum produced 6 pts and 4 rebounds in the 2009 playoffs and 8 and 7 in 2010. He wasn't a game changer in the playoffs.

Bosh is an 11 time all-star, almost doubling Gasol's all star appearances. Overlooking that though, they are pretty damn close in terms of their career production. To be fair that's a wash. They will both be Hall of Famers.

Odom was a good role player but never an all-star. Getting past Wade/Bosh and Kobe/Gasol, talent-wise Lebron completely destroyed anything else the Lakers had, but the ring total was the same.

[pookenstein]

Shame the faggot Koolaid decided to come around again.

Hopefully its just a cameo and he goes back to dropping the fries in the deep fryer or whatever it is they have his african ass doing.

He will once the season has started and the Lakers suck once again.

[ambchang]

The years they won Bynum produced 6 pts and 4 rebounds in the 2009 playoffs and 8 and 7 in 2010. He wasn't a game changer in the playoffs.

Bosh is an 11 time all-star, almost doubling Gasol's all star appearances. Overlooking that though, they are pretty damn close in terms of their career production. To be fair that's a wash. They will both be Hall of Famers.

Odom was a good role player but never an all-star. Getting past Wade/Bosh and Kobe/Gasol, talent-wise Lebron completely destroyed anything else the Lakers had, but the ring total was the same.

I am not sure why are so transfixed on career and all star production. We are talking about particular years. It's like the 13 lakers with four hall of famers. None of them are at their primes. Then you talk about particular years for Bynum. Dude, pick a lane.

Gasol at lakers clearly > bosh at Miami. It's. It even close. Gasol was a 1a/1b those years and bosh was a clear 3.
Gasol actually led the lakers in most relevant advanced stats in those championship years while bosh wasn't even close at leading any of them in Miami.

Bosh sacrificed a lot during his time at Miami and was no where close to what he was at toronto.

Speaking of all star games, the east sucked while the west was ultra competitive. You should know, but you just knowingly decide to ignore that.

Finally, all star games are popularity contests. We all know it. The fact that people cast votes to Kobe and ignored odom is another sign of how overrated Kobe is. Odom was a rare long sf who can handle the ball, pass, defend and score. He is like detlef schrempft and a derrick Mckey on steroids. These are the type of players that allows a team to build that versatility to beat different types of opponents.

[Koolaid_Man]

I am not sure why are so transfixed on career and all star production. We are talking about particular years. It's like the 13 lakers with four hall of famers. None of them are at their primes. Then you talk about particular years for Bynum. Dude, pick a lane.

Gasol at lakers clearly > bosh at Miami. It's. It even close. Gasol was a 1a/1b those years and bosh was a clear 3.
Gasol actually led the lakers in most relevant advanced stats in those championship years while bosh wasn't even close at leading any of them in Miami.

Bosh sacrificed a lot during his time at Miami and was no where close to what he was at toronto.

Speaking of all star games, the east sucked while the west was ultra competitive. You should know, but you just knowingly decide to ignore that.

Finally, all star games are popularity contests. We all know it. The fact that people cast votes to Kobe and ignored odom is another sign of how overrated Kobe is. Odom was a rare long sf who can handle the ball, pass, defend and score. He is like detlef schrempft and a derrick Mckey on steroids. These are the type of players that allows a team to build that versatility to beat different types of opponents.


Bosh and Gasol were both former leaders of their own respective teams. Gasol had never won a single play-off game until Kobe took him in. Gasol was soft until he met Kobe.....once he left Kobe he regressed back to white swan status. Gasol and Bosh are both optional and side kick players. They never won as clear Alphas and Leaders of their teams. The fact that Tim Duncan had it easy by playing with multiple All-Stars and Hall of Fame players his entire is no excuse for you to try and discredit a players status as an All-Star....Being an all-star is a testament to your own personal work ethic as a player whereas getting an MVP is simply the medias opinion of you. Gasol despite winning in LA was always a pussy and that's why Kobe had to work so hard to keep him motivated....If you think Gasol is a good as you like to claim...perhaps we should start to look into if he was actually a better player / athelete than Tim Duncan.....so let's compare the pussy to a faggot....after all Pau only won when he played with Kobe but Tim has always played with All-Stars and HOF'ers so again is Tim really better than Pau since Tim had the privledge since he came into the league and when he retired of having All-Stars and HOF'ers by his side. Tim Duncan is the overrated one if you ask a real nigga like me.

and lastely here is your man Pau....my nigga Kobe a savage :lol

QbtoJEKOH18

[LkrFan]

https://youtu.be/tbKJ1uQQYxI

:wakeup

[DMC]

^

:lol a video with 1200 views trumps SI.

Lkrfandango

[SpursforSix]

Kool went IN with no Vaseline! :lmao

and she still asks, "is it in yet?"

[Splits]

lol Jorge has 22k+ posts and still can't embed a youtube

[LkrFan]

^

:lol a video with 1200 views trumps SI.

Lkrfandango

:lol

SI is a site ran by white people who hates Kobe for "raping" a white slut. This white slut had Kobe's semen, along with 2 other dudes in her panties when she was examined by physicians.

So yeah, I'll take the words of actual NBA players over SI - or jealous San Antonio farmers like you :lol

[LkrFan]

lol Jorge has 22k+ posts and still can't embed a youtube

:lol

Look at my sig, asswipe. It is a great moment in Spur history :lol

[LkrFan]

and she still asks, "is it in yet?"

9 out of 10 Spur Fags may think this post is remotely funny :lol

[Arcadian]

Things we know.

[SpursforSix]

9 out of 10 Spur Fags may think this post is remotely funny :lol

I mean...it wasn't as funny as...


Have you ever used a cock ring ?


I have.


Yeah, your mouth.

[ambchang]

Bosh and Gasol were both former leaders of their own respective teams. Gasol had never won a single play-off game until Kobe took him in. Gasol was soft until he met Kobe.....once he left Kobe he regressed back to white swan status.

You act like the years Gasol didn't win any playoff games Kobe was doing grand or something. Kobe missed the playoffs, with a supporting cast that is at least comparable to Gasol

This entire Gasol was soft thing is absolute comedy. He went up against some of the toughest frontlines in the history of the league during years where the competition was Duncan, Garnett, Dirk, Webber, Sheed and such.

During the same time, Kobe quit vs. the notoriously soft Phoenix Suns. Rea


Gasol and Bosh are both optional and side kick players. They never won as clear Alphas and Leaders of their teams.

Neither did Kobe? When did he win as the clear alpha? Statistically speaking, Gasol had better numbers than Kobe did during those b2b years. You want to talk about clear alpha rings? Duncan has 4.


The fact that Tim Duncan had it easy by playing with multiple All-Stars and Hall of Fame players his entire is no excuse for you to try and discredit a players status as an All-Star....Being an all-star is a testament to your own personal work ethic as a player whereas getting an MVP is simply the medias opinion of you.

Excuse me? Kobe's team had pretty much always been stronger than Duncan's. 03 closed the case on that.

And MVPau made the all-star team during those championship years. You were talking about b2b, weren't you? Where do you want to move the goalpost this time?


Gasol despite winning in LA was always a pussy and that's why Kobe had to work so hard to keep him motivated....If you think Gasol is a good as you like to claim...perhaps we should start to look into if he was actually a better player / athelete than Tim Duncan.....so let's compare the pussy to a faggot....after all Pau only won when he played with Kobe but Tim has always played with All-Stars and HOF'ers so again is Tim really better than Pau since Tim had the privledge since he came into the league and when he retired of having All-Stars and HOF'ers by his side. Tim Duncan is the overrated one if you ask a real nigga like me.

Duncan is the only player who ever won with totally different players. You want to count the number of players who won a ring with Duncan vs. Kobe? Go ahead, I will let you start.


and lastely here is your man Pau....my nigga Kobe a savage :lol

QbtoJEKOH18

You don't want to talk about international competition with regards to MVPau in this debate, he was one of the best ever.

[Koolaid_Man]

1) The years Gasol wasn't winning a single gotdam game....Kobe was leading the league in scoring and making the play-offs with a rag tag team with players such as Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins. Kwame Brown and fucking Smush Parker....when Tammy Tits can boast such shitty teammates then your faggot ass can come holla at me.

2.)
"Duncan, Garnett, Dirk, Webber, Sheed" Nigga please....let me bust your asshole open again....players were brought into this league for the SOLE purpose of the Kobe assignment....ONLY to defend Kobe....Bruce Bowen is a prime example....after Kobe torched all the other Spurs guards such as Avery Johnson, Terry Porter, Derek Anderson, Sean Eliot etc....Pop had to find some fucking answer for my nigga....:lol Hakeem Olajuwon said it best..."the 2 guard position is the toughest and most demanding position in all of basketball" because not only are you having to score against and defend the most athletic position on the court but you also have other positions such as the PG, SF, and even PF trying to defend the SG position...So Kobe's job was spectacularly difficult compared to Gasol and Duncan combined....all them slow footed niggas had to do was park their lazy asses in the paint and beg for the ball....LOL and in terms of players defending Kobe.....don't even get me started with names.....you came up with a few I can literally come up with Dozens.....Rueben Patterson, Bruce Boewn, Doug Christie, T-Mac, Iverson, Marbury, Nash, Pippen, MJ, Rodman, Reggie Miller, Wade, Lebron, Matt Barnes, Durant, Westbrook, Curry, Billups, RIP Hamilton, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Ron Artest, Tabo Shefalosa, Mike Bibby, Jason Kidd, I could go on and on....point is don't ever foolishly try to compare Pau and Tammy's night in and night out competition to Kobe's....you will lose that argument every time.

3.) During the back to years Kobe was Alpha and Omega...Gasol was white swan getting mind fucked by KG and Sheed. If not for Kobe's leadership and savagery Gasol would have been just another typical white boy eaten up by hard pipe hitting niggas. ;-)

4.) If Duncan was an Alpha the Spurs should have repeated at least once....this nigga was so weak he couldn't even do that....he played under the same system and coach his entire career and the first time he wasn't in THE system (during the Olympics) that nigga flat out quit on his fucking country and refused to ever play again....that's the kind of shit role players do....they don't know how to man up and put on their big boy pants. So if you want to throw the Kobe quit on his team during the Suns series I can one up your faggot ass as usual....Duncan flat out quit on his country and I can quote his own words.....LOL He's a quitter not an Alpha.....how you like dem apples? LOL

Nigga you best go sit your silly ass in a corner somewhere I will embarrass your retarded ass with FACTS...you never were and still not ready for a nigga like KOOL :toast

[Dex]

Just re-watched Game 7 of the 2010 Finals on NBATV earlier today. Kobe almost single-handedly tanked his team with his 6/24 shooting in his last meaningful performance. He didn't deserve that last ring, but the refs and Artest bailed him out in the 4th quarter.

Yet the NBA still was slurping him all the way to the end, even when he was ruining the Lakers so that he could stroke his ego going out.

[ElNono]

Things we know.


Ice is cold.


Water is wet

[Koolaid_Man]

Just re-watched Game 7 of the 2010 Finals on NBATV earlier today. Kobe almost single-handedly tanked his team with his 6/24 shooting in his last meaningful performance. He didn't deserve that last ring, but the refs and Artest bailed him out in the 4th quarter.

Yet the NBA still was slurping him all the way to the end, even when he was ruining the Lakers so that he could stroke his ego going out.

Kobe got you niggas straight dickmatized.....:lmao watching his old shit of him winning titles...I mean what THA FUCK kinda losers is yall....I wouldn't be caught dead watching re-runs of Tammy Tits winning a title....yall niggas a straight up delusional and wack....yea Kobe laid that pipe to you niggas real good...yall sound like he raped yall raw too :toast yep he did

[LkrFan]

1) The years Gasol wasn't winning a single gotdam game....Kobe was leading the league in scoring and making the play-offs with a rag tag team with players such as Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins. Kwame Brown and fucking Smush Parker....when Tammy Tits can boast such shitty teammates then your faggot ass can come holla at me.

2.) Nigga please....let me bust your asshole open again....players were brought into this league for the SOLE purpose of the Kobe assignment....ONLY to defend Kobe....Bruce Bowen is a prime example....after Kobe torched all the other Spurs guards such as Avery Johnson, Terry Porter, Derek Anderson, Sean Eliot etc....Pop had to find some fucking answer for my nigga....:lol Hakeem Olajuwon said it best..."the 2 guard position is the toughest and most demanding position in all of basketball" because not only are you having to score against and defend the most athletic position on the court but you also have other positions such as the PG, SF, and even PF trying to defend the SG position...So Kobe's job was spectacularly difficult compared to Gasol and Duncan combined....all them slow footed niggas had to do was park their lazy asses in the paint and beg for the ball....LOL and in terms of players defending Kobe.....don't even get me started with names.....you came up with a few I can literally come up with Dozens.....Rueben Patterson, Bruce Boewn, Doug Christie, T-Mac, Iverson, Marbury, Nash, Pippen, MJ, Rodman, Reggie Miller, Wade, Lebron, Matt Barnes, Durant, Westbrook, Curry, Billups, RIP Hamilton, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Ron Artest, Tabo Shefalosa, Mike Bibby, Jason Kidd, I could go on and on....point is don't ever foolishly try to compare Pau and Tammy's night in and night out competition to Kobe's....you will lose that argument every time.

3.) During the back to years Kobe was Alpha and Omega...Gasol was white swan getting mind fucked by KG and Sheed. If not for Kobe's leadership and savagery Gasol would have been just another typical white boy eaten up by hard pipe hitting niggas. ;-)

4.) If Duncan was an Alpha the Spurs should have repeated at least once....this nigga was so weak he couldn't even do that....he played under the same system and coach his entire career and the first time he wasn't in THE system (during the Olympics) that nigga flat out quit on his fucking country and refused to ever play again....that's the kind of shit role players do....they don't know how to man up and put on their big boy pants. So if you want to throw the Kobe quit on his team during the Suns series I can one up your faggot ass as usual....Duncan flat out quit on his country and I can quote his own words.....LOL He's a quitter not an Alpha.....how you like dem apples? LOL

Nigga you best go sit your silly ass in a corner somewhere I will embarrass your retarded ass with FACTS...you never were and still not ready for a nigga like KOOL :toast

Dayum - amb gone need some Chinese strength preparation H after this shiiiiiiiiiiit! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[ambchang]

1) The years Gasol wasn't winning a single gotdam game....Kobe was leading the league in scoring and making the play-offs with a rag tag team with players such as Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins. Kwame Brown and fucking Smush Parker....when Tammy Tits can boast such shitty teammates then your faggot ass can come holla at me.

2.) Nigga please....let me bust your asshole open again....players were brought into this league for the SOLE purpose of the Kobe assignment....ONLY to defend Kobe....Bruce Bowen is a prime example....after Kobe torched all the other Spurs guards such as Avery Johnson, Terry Porter, Derek Anderson, Sean Eliot etc....Pop had to find some fucking answer for my nigga....:lol Hakeem Olajuwon said it best..."the 2 guard position is the toughest and most demanding position in all of basketball" because not only are you having to score against and defend the most athletic position on the court but you also have other positions such as the PG, SF, and even PF trying to defend the SG position...So Kobe's job was spectacularly difficult compared to Gasol and Duncan combined....all them slow footed niggas had to do was park their lazy asses in the paint and beg for the ball....LOL and in terms of players defending Kobe.....don't even get me started with names.....you came up with a few I can literally come up with Dozens.....Rueben Patterson, Bruce Boewn, Doug Christie, T-Mac, Iverson, Marbury, Nash, Pippen, MJ, Rodman, Reggie Miller, Wade, Lebron, Matt Barnes, Durant, Westbrook, Curry, Billups, RIP Hamilton, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Ron Artest, Tabo Shefalosa, Mike Bibby, Jason Kidd, I could go on and on....point is don't ever foolishly try to compare Pau and Tammy's night in and night out competition to Kobe's....you will lose that argument every time.

3.) During the back to years Kobe was Alpha and Omega...Gasol was white swan getting mind fucked by KG and Sheed. If not for Kobe's leadership and savagery Gasol would have been just another typical white boy eaten up by hard pipe hitting niggas. ;-)

4.) If Duncan was an Alpha the Spurs should have repeated at least once....this nigga was so weak he couldn't even do that....he played under the same system and coach his entire career and the first time he wasn't in THE system (during the Olympics) that nigga flat out quit on his fucking country and refused to ever play again....that's the kind of shit role players do....they don't know how to man up and put on their big boy pants. So if you want to throw the Kobe quit on his team during the Suns series I can one up your faggot ass as usual....Duncan flat out quit on his country and I can quote his own words.....LOL He's a quitter not an Alpha.....how you like dem apples? LOL

Nigga you best go sit your silly ass in a corner somewhere I will embarrass your retarded ass with FACTS...you never were and still not ready for a nigga like KOOL :toast

1) Kobe missed the playoffs and got kicked out the first round twice. Gasol got kicked out all the same. And for The hundredth time, Kobe had butler and odom.

2) wing defenders were at a premium because the league changed the rules. Kobe, ,tmac, ai, Pierce, Allen, carter and a whole bunch of players benefitted immensely from it. To say players were brought in to guard Kobe specifically is down right revisionist. People did that to shaq. Not Kobe.

3) and yet gasol led the lakers in most advanced stats. Go figure.

4) what about alpha and repeats again? Gasol repeated so he's the alpha? What are you even trying to say? You have to click the submit button to spew your diarrhea, take advantage of that and actually think through your points, if you had one to begin with.

Why do you keep bringing in the Olympics when we are talking about the NBA? And why do you keep pulling team accomplishments when talking about individuals? Oh right, there's nothing else.

[ambchang]

Dayum - amb gone need some Chinese strength preparation H after this shiiiiiiiiiiit! :rollin :lmao :rollin

I admire how you like to side with the losing side. Explains why you root for Kobe.

[Donkeybong]

Just another journalist cashing in on some clickbait. Protip, you want exposure as sports journalist?... Then write a piece on a polarizing issue and take the side that's less agreed upon.

[DMC]

Just another journalist cashing in on some clickbait. Protip, you want exposure as sports journalist?... Then write a piece on a polarizing issue and take the side that's less agreed upon.

Bend over, I'll give you a pro tip.

[Donkeybong]

Bend over, I'll give you a pro tip.
can you even find your dick you fat fuck

[whitemamba]

can you even find your dick you fat fuck

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DMC after his doc lowers his metformin

[Chucho]

:lmao


https://media.giphy.com/media/KJwc5rBtIwoQE/giphy.gif

DMC after his doc lowers his metformin

Savage. God damned savage.

And Kool actually getting serious. Better than his Fagbert alt.

[LkrFan]

https://media.giphy.com/media/KJwc5rBtIwoQE/giphy.gif

DMC after his doc lowers his metformin

:lmao

[LkrFan]

can you even find your dick you fat fuck

:lmao

[DMC]

can you even find your dick you fat fuck


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DMC after his doc lowers his metformin

Sleeper cell aka dune crew.

I'd bet both of you are from the middle east.

[Dex]

Kobe got you niggas straight dickmatized.....:lmao watching his old shit of him winning titles...I mean what THA FUCK kinda losers is yall....I wouldn't be caught dead watching re-runs of Tammy Tits winning a title....yall niggas a straight up delusional and wack....yea Kobe laid that pipe to you niggas real good...yall sound like he raped yall raw too :toast yep he did

:lmao Don't flatter yourself Koolaid. It was a slow day at work and it was the only thing worth watching on TV. I was just hoping for a different ending, but watching Kobe nearly crying because he couldn't hit a shot was worth the hour and a half of my life.

[whitemamba]

Sleeper cell aka dune crew.

I'd bet both of you are from the middle east.

Yes that could be true, but we skinny bruh, you mad ?

[DMC]

Yes that could be true, but we skinny bruh, you mad ?

No, it's good you're skinny. You can wear big jackets and tummy sticks easier.

The humor is similar with folks from the same region. Also, when one of you comes on, the rest of you show up for some reason, almost like you were activated by this SI thread.

[Koolaid_Man]

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DMC after his doc lowers his metformin


Shake det ass DMC....shake det ass :lol

[LkrFan]

Shake det ass DMC....shake det ass :lol

:lol

[Koolaid_Man]

1) Kobe missed the playoffs and got kicked out the first round twice. Gasol got kicked out all the same. And for The hundredth time, Kobe had butler and odom.

2) wing defenders were at a premium because the league changed the rules. Kobe, ,tmac, ai, Pierce, Allen, carter and a whole bunch of players benefitted immensely from it. To say players were brought in to guard Kobe specifically is down right revisionist. People did that to shaq. Not Kobe.

3) and yet gasol led the lakers in most advanced stats. Go figure.

4) what about alpha and repeats again? Gasol repeated so he's the alpha? What are you even trying to say? You have to click the submit button to spew your diarrhea, take advantage of that and actually think through your points, if you had one to begin with.

Why do you keep bringing in the Olympics when we are talking about the NBA? And why do you keep pulling team accomplishments when talking about individuals? Oh right, there's nothing else.

yes Kobe missed the playoffs but your retarded ass fail to recognize CONTEXT...again when Tammy Tits can boast playing with the likes of Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, Smush Parker and host of other scrubs then come hollar at me....You throw out Caron Butler and Lamar Odom.....both of whom are decent players but not All-Stars or Hall of Fame Players. Let me ask while Kobe was playing with Caron and Odom...tell me who was Tammy Tits playing with at that exact same time? :lol Better yet let me ask...would you trade Caron and Odom for Parker and Manu? :lol who are both All-Stars and Hall of Fame bound. You're such a fucking Putz till it's not even pitiful....LOL

Gasol leading the Lakers in any stat is because Kobe allowed him to...built that weak white boy up just to help him win a title....and it worked...Gasol is not a legit first option if he was he would have been able to win at least one gotdam game at least a single game on his own.....LOL

Kobe repeated 3 times.....2 repeats during the first 3 peat before Gasol and one repeat after Shaq....do your dumb ass know what the common denominator is? It's Kobe lol

The Olympics is extremely relevant in the context of Tammy.....he's the only "Superstar" to meltdown on the world stage and after melting down flat out quit on his country....the country that made him rich...Real Alphas don't quit on their country....this is a whole nother ball game....it speaks to real character issues as a fucking man (no PUN intended)...It proved that he's nothing but a system player that can't think outside of the little bubble that Pop created for him in SA....meanwhile Kobe is dealing with major crisis after crisis.....the pressure of playing in LA is incomparable to playing in SA.....for christ's sake courtside tickets in SA literally costs like .13 cents and shit....no joke whereas court-side tickets in LA will cost at least 100 grand. :lol Tammy faced no pressure in that half baked ass city of SA...Kobe dealt with a hateful media, a larger than life jealous ass clown in Shaq, fake rape charges, a hating ass coach in Phil because Jeannie wanted to fuck Kobe....you name it...Tammy couldn't have survived one minute of Kobe's life....

Meanwhile Tammy is getting cucked by some 5 foot ilegal alien....kids calling that other nigga daddy..Dude got Tammy's bitch to give him 1 million of Tammy's money to start his own fucking gym..while he was cumming inside her in the gym.....Tammy had to check in with the front desk before he was allowed in....:rollin....top it all off with some dude selling Tammy makeup products for 1 million and then getting Tammy to give him another 25 million on some bullshit winery....all the while Tammy was taking a paycut from Pop and nem....and then his last game he lost and his last shot was blocked and he fell flat on his gay ass....what a fucking career. :lol:lmao:rollin

[whitemamba]

No, it's good you're skinny. You can wear big jackets and tummy sticks easier.

The humor is similar with folks from the same region. Also, when one of you comes on, the rest of you show up for some reason, almost like you were activated by this SI thread.

hit the treadmill Nancy drew, your investigating skills are as good as your weight loss tactics.

[DMC]

hit the treadmill Nancy drew, your investigating skills are as good as your weight loss tactics.

Sure :lol

[DMC]

yes Kobe missed the playoffs but your retarded ass fail to recognize CONTEXT...again when Tammy Tits can boast playing with the likes of Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, Smush Parker and host of other scrubs then come hollar at me....You throw out Caron Butler and Lamar Odom.....both of whom are decent players but not All-Stars or Hall of Fame Players. Let me ask while Kobe was playing with Caron and Odom...tell me who was Tammy Tits playing with at that exact same time? :lol Better yet let me ask...would you trade Caron and Odom for Parker and Manu? :lol who are both All-Stars and Hall of Fame bound. You're such a fucking Putz till it's not even pitiful....LOL

Gasol leading the Lakers in any stat is because Kobe allowed him to...built that weak white boy up just to help him win a title....and it worked...Gasol is not a legit first option if he was he would have been able to win at least one gotdam game at least a single game on his own.....LOL

Kobe repeated 3 times.....2 repeats during the first 3 peat before Gasol and one repeat after Shaq....do your dumb ass know what the common denominator is? It's Kobe lol

The Olympics is extremely relevant in the context of Tammy.....he's the only "Superstar" to meltdown on the world stage and after melting down flat out quit on his country....the country that made him rich...Real Alphas don't quit on their country....this is a whole nother ball game....it speaks to real character issues as a fucking man (no PUN intended)...It proved that he's nothing but a system player that can't think outside of the little bubble that Pop created for him in SA....meanwhile Kobe is dealing with major crisis after crisis.....the pressure of playing in LA is incomparable to playing in SA.....for christ's sake courtside tickets in SA literally costs like .13 cents and shit....no joke whereas court-side tickets in LA will cost at least 100 grand. :lol Tammy faced no pressure in that half baked ass city of SA...Kobe dealt with a hateful media, a larger than life jealous ass clown in Shaq, fake rape charges, a hating ass coach in Phil because Jeannie wanted to fuck Kobe....you name it...Tammy couldn't have survived one minute of Kobe's life....

Meanwhile Tammy is getting cucked by some 5 foot ilegal alien....kids calling that other nigga daddy..Dude got Tammy's bitch to give him 1 million of Tammy's money to start his own fucking gym..while he was cumming inside her in the gym.....Tammy had to check in with the front desk before he was allowed in....:rollin....top it all off with some dude selling Tammy makeup products for 1 million and then getting Tammy to give him another 25 million on some bullshit winery....all the while Tammy was taking a paycut from Pop and nem....and then his last game he lost and his last shot was blocked and he fell flat on his gay ass....what a fucking career. :lol:lmao:rollin
tl;dr

[Chucho]

hit the treadmill Nancy drew, your investigating skills are as good as your weight loss tactics.
:rollin

[LkrFan]

tl;dr

You read it, don't lie. Couldn't refute it so you resorted to bs-ing :lol

[Arcadian]

:lol laker fans
:lol this is all you have left
:lol faggots

[LakasRool4eva]

who cares....fact is Tammy was and still is a butt pirate cucked by a broke ass 5 foot illegal alien...whatever makes you losers feel good I guess. LOL

"Tammy"?!?! Thats INSANE!!!! Sick 1 Kool!!! LOOOOOOOOOLLLL!!!!

[DMC]

You read it, don't lie. Couldn't refute it so you resorted to bs-ing :lol

I didn't read it.

[Koolaid_Man]

You read it, don't lie. Couldn't refute it so you resorted to bs-ing :lol

hell yea that bitch read it...I am a savage LMAO

[LkrFan]

I didn't read it.

Hey, did you get your Ta-Ta-towel yet?

894936251861614593

BAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! Don't want you to have sweaty man boobs when you are searching online for new recipes on the Food Network!! :rollin :lmao :rollin

[LkrFan]

hell yea that bitch read it...I am a savage LMAO

:lmao

[DMC]

Hey, did you get your Ta-Ta-towel yet?

894936251861614593

BAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! Don't want you to have sweaty man boobs when you are searching online for new recipes on the Food Network!! :rollin :lmao :rollin

Mexican humor

[Koolaid_Man]

fucking Spur fan and releasing in their ass is what I do....lol

[LkrFan]

Mexican humor

:lol

[BD24]

Man. Kool is taking this really hard. Look at these fucking novels

[SpurOutofTownFan]

shocker

[djohn2oo8]

Man. Kool is taking this really hard. Look at these fucking novels

Yall keep responding lol

[BD24]

Amb china is the one responding.

[ambchang]

yes Kobe missed the playoffs but your retarded ass fail to recognize CONTEXT...again when Tammy Tits can boast playing with the likes of Kwame Brown, Chris Mihm, Chucky Atkins, Smush Parker and host of other scrubs then come hollar at me....You throw out Caron Butler and Lamar Odom.....both of whom are decent players but not All-Stars or Hall of Fame Players. Let me ask while Kobe was playing with Caron and Odom...tell me who was Tammy Tits playing with at that exact same time? :lol Better yet let me ask...would you trade Caron and Odom for Parker and Manu? :lol who are both All-Stars and Hall of Fame bound. You're such a fucking Putz till it's not even pitiful....LOL

What is your standard? You want to talk about all-stars career-wise, or being an all-star the year of? In 2003, Duncan was the only person making the all star team. Would I switch 03 Parker and Ginobili for Odom and Butler? It's not a slam dunk, but I would seriously consider it. Would I trade them, especially knowing what they would later accomplish? No, but then winning a championship in 03 has nothing to do with Manu and Parker making the allstar team later now does it.

Will I trade 14 Kobe for say, 14 Paul George? Of course, I would, it's a no brainer. Does that mean George is better than Kobe career wise? According to you, yes.

Also, Kobe played with Shaq, Malone and Payton, resulted in the biggest upset in Finals history.

Then he teamed up with Nash and Dwight, and resulted in a 1st round sweep.


Gasol leading the Lakers in any stat is because Kobe allowed him to...built that weak white boy up just to help him win a title....and it worked...Gasol is not a legit first option if he was he would have been able to win at least one gotdam game at least a single game on his own.....LOL

:lol Kobe didn't let Caron Butler and Odom the year he missed the playoffs.


Kobe repeated 3 times.....2 repeats during the first 3 peat before Gasol and one repeat after Shaq....do your dumb ass know what the common denominator is? It's Kobe lol

So is Fisher and Phil Jackson.


The Olympics is extremely relevant in the context of Tammy.....he's the only "Superstar" to meltdown on the world stage and after melting down flat out quit on his country....the country that made him rich...Real Alphas don't quit on their country....this is a whole nother ball game....it speaks to real character issues as a fucking man (no PUN intended)...It proved that he's nothing but a system player that can't think outside of the little bubble that Pop created for him in SA....meanwhile Kobe is dealing with major crisis after crisis.....the pressure of playing in LA is incomparable to playing in SA.....for christ's sake courtside tickets in SA literally costs like .13 cents and shit....no joke whereas court-side tickets in LA will cost at least 100 grand. :lol Tammy faced no pressure in that half baked ass city of SA...Kobe dealt with a hateful media, a larger than life jealous ass clown in Shaq, fake rape charges, a hating ass coach in Phil because Jeannie wanted to fuck Kobe....you name it...Tammy couldn't have survived one minute of Kobe's life....

So, wait, you want context previously, and no context now? 04 Olympics team was known as a dumpster fire before the games started. it was primed to fail, Duncan just happened to be on it. Kobe saw that from a mile away, and risked going to jail to make up an excuse to avoid that team. he knew he couldn't coattail himself to glory like he always did, and just opted out.


Meanwhile Tammy is getting cucked by some 5 foot ilegal alien....kids calling that other nigga daddy..Dude got Tammy's bitch to give him 1 million of Tammy's money to start his own fucking gym..while he was cumming inside her in the gym.....Tammy had to check in with the front desk before he was allowed in....:rollin....top it all off with some dude selling Tammy makeup products for 1 million and then getting Tammy to give him another 25 million on some bullshit winery....all the while Tammy was taking a paycut from Pop and nem....and then his last game he lost and his last shot was blocked and he fell flat on his gay ass....what a fucking career. :lol:lmao:rollin

Not sure how this is relevant to the discussion at all, but at least he didn't have any flashbacks everytime he steps in the showers.

[DMC]

Kobe is god, basically. He sacrificed his only son so that whosoever accuseth him of rape in Colorado shall have everlasting cash.

[Koolaid_Man]

What is your standard? You want to talk about all-stars career-wise, or being an all-star the year of? In 2003, Duncan was the only person making the all star team. Would I switch 03 Parker and Ginobili for Odom and Butler? It's not a slam dunk, but I would seriously consider it. You're a gotdam liar....Would I trade them, especially knowing what they would later accomplish? No, but then winning a championship in 03 has nothing to do with Manu and Parker making the allstar team later now does it. So who was Tammy Tits teamamates in 03? vs Kobe post Shaq and Pre-Pau?
Will I trade 14 Kobe for say, 14 Paul George? Of course, I would, it's a no brainer. WTF does a 14 Kobe have to do with anything....that's like saying you'd fuck your grandma before you fuck your mother....and we all know you prefer to fuck your mother....Does that mean George is better than Kobe career wise? According to you, yes.

Also, Kobe played with Shaq, Malone and Payton, resulted in the biggest upset in Finals history. Kobe played with players all past their Prime....the fact that your retarded ass can't grasp that is hilarious....yet we we're still good enough to beat yalls asses.

Then he teamed up with Nash and Dwight, and resulted in a 1st round sweep. - Your dumb ass forgot the back to back no Shaq before Nash and Dwight....you can't jump from Malone and Payton to Nash and Dwight without recognizing Kobe went back to back something Tammy Tits was incapable of doing.What I find funny is that all the players you list when they got to Kobe they were either too old (well past their prime) or significantly injured and done....(Nash & Dwight) / fail attempt on your part....try again :lol



:lol Kobe didn't let Caron Butler and Odom the year he missed the playoffs. BINGO!!! and even if he did Caron and Odom weren't talented enough to carry the #2 torch...they are #3 players.



So is Fisher and Phil Jackson. - Newsflash? Kobe had teammates and a coach......hahahahah so which is it....Fisher and Phil or Pau and Shaq.....hahaha your lame ass is all over the map...thirsty as fuck :lol



So, wait, you want context previously, and no context now? it's all context dipshit....not my fault you're a mental midget and don't understand the definition or application of the word. 04 Olympics team was known as a dumpster fire before the games started. Excuses Excuses - Ernie The Cat!!! it was primed to fail, Duncan just happened to be on it. Wasn't he the team's Alpha? So you're saying Tammy Tits wasn't an Alpha on that team. If not what was he? A cum guzzling bitch? :lol Kobe saw that from a mile away, and risked going to jail to make up an excuse to avoid that team. Excuses , Excuses - Like Cat In The Hat!!! he knew he couldn't coattail himself to glory like he always did, and just opted out. if there were no Alphas on the team who could he coattail? :lol



Not sure how this is relevant to the discussion at all, but at least he didn't have any flashbacks everytime he steps in the showers. - Puhlease....he got cucked by a 5 foot illegal alien stripper...how can he not have flashbacks. :lmao

^ Hey dipshit see comments in red

:bobo

[DMC]

^ way too invested in this, rent-free salt mine

[ambchang]

You're a gotdam liar....

No I am not. Look up Manu and Tony's production in 03, compare that to Odom and Butler in 05. Very comparable. I would say Odom and Butler had the edge. Fact is, Stephen Jackson and Robinson were the 2nd and 3rd best players on the 03 Spurs team, not Parker and Ginobili.


So who was Tammy Tits teamamates in 03? vs Kobe post Shaq and Pre-Pau?

Are you going up against name recognition, or actual production? Tony Parker and Ginobili weren't good in 03, they weren't even actual starter material (or borderline starter material). I would argue much more for Robinson and Jackson, which in and of itself tells you how weak that 03 team was outside of Duncan when you have a way over the hill former all-star and a mentally unstable journeyman as your 2nd and 3rd best players.


WTF does a 14 Kobe have to do with anything....that's like saying you'd fuck your grandma before you fuck your mother....and we all know you prefer to fuck your mother.... It does have everything to do with you trying to say the 03 Spurs team was loaded because Parker and Ginobili were on that team, and whether I would trade them for Butler and Odom. But you are feigning stupidity because you got called out.


Kobe played with players all past their Prime....the fact that your retarded ass can't grasp that is hilarious....yet we we're still good enough to beat yalls asses. And Duncan played with players who were way past their primes or not yet reached their primes. 04 Spurs were horrible outside of Duncan. Hedo?


Your dumb ass forgot the back to back no Shaq before Nash and Dwight....you can't jump from Malone and Payton to Nash and Dwight without recognizing Kobe went back to back something Tammy Tits was incapable of doing.What I find funny is that all the players you list when they got to Kobe they were either too old (well past their prime) or significantly injured and done....(Nash & Dwight) / fail attempt on your part....try again

So why did you bring up Parker and Ginobili in 03? Or have your two neurons finally connected?


BINGO!!! and even if he did Caron and Odom weren't talented enough to carry the #2 torch...they are #3 players. Yes, because Kobe let other players lead all 5 championship teams in advanced stats. I guess even Kobe knows he can't win as the lead or a team.


Newsflash? Kobe had teammates and a coach......hahahahah so which is it....Fisher and Phil or Pau and Shaq.....hahaha your lame ass is all over the map...thirsty as fuck You said Kobe is the constant, there are two others.


it's all context dipshit....not my fault you're a mental midget and don't understand the definition or application of the word. and then you go ...
Excuses Excuses - Ernie The Cat!!! So context is now excuse, but your excuse was context. Gotcha.


Wasn't he the team's Alpha? So you're saying Tammy Tits wasn't an Alpha on that team. If not what was he? A cum guzzling bitch? Wasn't Kobe the alpha on the 05 team?


Excuses , Excuses - Like Cat In The Hat!!! Once again, context and excuses, depends on how you want to spin it I guess.


Puhlease....he got cucked by a 5 foot illegal alien stripper...how can he not have flashbacks. Probably not in the showers though.


^ Hey dipshit see comments in red

:bobo