Hard Knocks: Tampa Bay Buccaneers Thread

[Silver&Black]

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First episode is Tuesday, August 8th.

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[Silver&Black]

Mike Evans is a monster.

That is all.

[Trill Clinton]

Jameis is a natural leader. Great personality too.

[Silver&Black]

Jameis is a natural leader. Great personality too.

Hoping for the best from Winston. He's got by far the best talent he's ever had this year. We shall see...

Still though (and I'm nitpicking of course) I didn't like it when he said that he didn't know the down and distances at times. Probably shouldn't have said that part on camera.

[Trill Clinton]

Hoping for the best from Winston. He's got by far the best talent he's ever had this year. We shall see...

Still though (and I'm nitpicking of course) I didn't like it when he said that he didn't know the down and distances at times. Probably shouldn't have said that part on camera.

Yea I thought the same thing. I like how he responded with that horrible practice by putting in extra work at the facility. You can tell he's all about competing and winning. He just needs to learn to trust his teammates and not force things so much.

[The Gemini Method]

Good first episode. I like McCoy's every-man attitude and Mike Evans is a beastly fellow. Winston seems like he's ready to move forward.

[Silver&Black]

Can't wait to see Aguayo's ass get waived this Tuesday.

[Raven]

Can't wait to see Aguayo's ass get waived this Tuesday.

i mean... it's not really his fault that he, a kicker, was drafted in the second round.

[Silver&Black]

i mean... it's not really his fault that he, a kicker, was drafted in the second round.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

[Silver&Black]

I like McCoy's every-man attitude

Dude is a straight up nerd.

His man-cave was badass though.

[DPG21920]

Winston with an awful on field year and now the reports about him being a sexual predator are disturbing to say the least. He may actually end up cut or out of the league.

Winston has a ton of weapons too but he just does not have “it” it appears.

Not just him either. Guys like Mariota that are hyped just don’t look like prime time players. Goff/Wentz look legit but who knows with them even.

[unleashbaynes]

Welp, this really makes one question what went on at Florida State.

[Trill Clinton]

Winston with an awful on field year and now the reports about him being a sexual predator are disturbing to say the least. He may actually end up cut or out of the league.

Winston has a ton of weapons too but he just does not have “it” it appears.

Not just him either. Guys like Mariota that are hyped just don’t look like prime time players. Goff/Wentz look legit but who knows with them even.

i blame his head coach. i remember when they fired lovie and everybody here was saying oh how koetter was going to turn jameis into a pro bowler....dude sucks and he is horrible at qb development.

[DPG21920]

i blame his head coach. i remember when they fired lovie and everybody here was saying oh how koetter was going to turn jameis into a pro bowler....dude sucks and he is horrible at qb development.

I don’t blame the coach for all of it. We are seeing Winston not be the leader everyone thought he was. He’s been questionable in that department and the off field stuff is a big reason why.

That’s on him. It appears there is legit character issues with him and there is a lot of smoke around him being an issue.

[Raven]

i blame his head coach. i remember when they fired lovie and everybody here was saying oh how koetter was going to turn jameis into a pro bowler....dude sucks and he is horrible at qb development.

don't remember anyone saying that

[Trill Clinton]

don't remember anyone saying that

you must not follow teams outside of NE then.

[Trill Clinton]

I don’t blame the coach for all of it. We are seeing Winston not be the leader everyone thought he was. He’s been questionable in that department and the off field stuff is a big reason why.

That’s on him. It appears there is legit character issues with him and there is a lot of smoke around him being an issue.

jameis started off hot, made a pro bowl, threw for over 4k yards his first 2 seasons but he's regressed and that is on koetter.

[IronMexican]

That's on him, brah.

Why can't you just admit that it's on the black player


He can still turn it around and I think he will.

[Silver&Black]

I don't even know what to think about Jameis anymore. Dude's got talent....just not getting it done.

He's the worst QB in the division. I do know that much.

[Trill Clinton]

That's on him, brah.

Why can't you just admit that it's on the black player


He can still turn it around and I think he will.

idk why him being black has anything to do with this discussion but okay....

jameis most def takes some of the blame(it worries me the team had him playing with an ac joint injury) but TB is horrible on defense, offense is anemic no matter who is at qb and like dpg said, they have weapons but haven't put it together offensively and they've been embarrassed in several games this year i put that on koetter.

its hard to talk football in this forum cuz you guys have an agenda.

[DeadlyDynasty]

idk why him being black has anything to do with this discussion but okay....

jameis most def takes some of the blame(it worries me the team had him playing with an ac joint injury) but TB is horrible on defense, offense is anemic no matter who is at qb and like dpg said, they have weapons but haven't put it together offensively and they've been embarrassed in several games this year i put that on koetter.

its hard to talk football in this forum cuz you guys have an agenda.
Just out of curiosity, who do you think will have a better (individual) career--Dak or Jameis?

[Raven]

idk why him being black has anything to do with this discussion but okay....

jameis most def takes some of the blame(it worries me the team had him playing with an ac joint injury) but TB is horrible on defense, offense is anemic no matter who is at qb and like dpg said, they have weapons but haven't put it together offensively and they've been embarrassed in several games this year i put that on koetter.

its hard to talk football in this forum cuz you guys have an agenda.

they just won two straight with fitzpatrick under center... TB has one of the best pass protecting offensive lines, has mike evans, deshawn jackson and the rookie TE who's a stud, and yet he can't throw for shit.. this is just embarassing tbh

[Trill Clinton]

they just won two straight with fitzpatrick under center... TB has one of the best pass protecting offensive lines, has mike evans, deshawn jackson and the rookie TE who's a stud, and yet he can't throw for shit.. this is just embarassing tbh


they won 2 straight against two of the worst franchises in the league lol. like i said, i can't talk real football here cuz its full of idiot takes like yours. you bandwagon patriot fans make me sick.

[Trill Clinton]

Just out of curiosity, who do you think will have a better (individual) career--Dak or Jameis?

i'd say jameis just based on scheme. jameis has more opportunities to make big plays in his offense. he does takes chances which hurt him( his numbers his first 3 seasons are identical to my GOAT bret favre)

i like dak too but his scheme is based on having a dominant run game. prior to this season he was careful with the ball and without zeke, he's lost. i blame most of that on coaching, tho.

[Clipper Nation]

That's on him, brah.

Why can't you just admit that it's on the black player


He can still turn it around and I think he will.
Jameis needs to work on his accuracy, but Koetter is to blame too. His system is outdated in today's NFL and he's not setting the Bucs' offense up to succeed.

[chunticakes]

Jameis is a rich man's Jawalrus Russell, tbh.

[DPG21920]

Does Mike Evans just suck now or did Winston kill any chance at him being considered an elite WR? It’s astonishing how bad Mike Evans has been this year.

[Avante]

Winston is 23 years old, slow down.

[Silver&Black]

Does Mike Evans just suck now or did Winston kill any chance at him being considered an elite WR? It’s astonishing how bad Mike Evans has been this year.

I refuse to believe that Evans sucks. He's got a bad attitude at times....hopefully he can get over that petty shit.

Winston....I don't have a clue. Probably seen him play more than anybody else on this site and I'm still perplexed. Really..........I don't know what to think.