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apalisoc_9
08-07-2017, 04:05 PM
I'll Start.

Barto colon
Derek Jeter
Mike trout


Go!

tonight...you
08-07-2017, 04:15 PM
Manute Bol.

dabom
08-07-2017, 04:17 PM
:lol

SpursforSix
08-07-2017, 04:18 PM
Make it 200.

TimDunkem
08-07-2017, 04:32 PM
Avante.

tonight...you
08-07-2017, 05:03 PM
These guys are good!
Have I ever said I like your name?

LkrFan
08-07-2017, 06:16 PM
I could beat DMC unless this was at the finish line tbh:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8VLNOaaNIO8DCxlhPCXioZZkfp3JWO _JycvB6fd14U_yjmdqq

:lol

DMC
08-07-2017, 06:38 PM
I could beat DMC unless this was at the finish line tbh:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8VLNOaaNIO8DCxlhPCXioZZkfp3JWO _JycvB6fd14U_yjmdqq

:lol
This will slow you down:

http://www.northerntool.com/images/product/2000x2000/209/20981_2000x2000.jpg

Clipper Nation
08-07-2017, 06:45 PM
I could beat DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) unless this was at the finish line tbh:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8VLNOaaNIO8DCxlhPCXioZZkfp3JWO _JycvB6fd14U_yjmdqq

:lol
OP said "athletes." If DMC is an athlete, so is the guy who wins the hot dog eating contest every year.

LkrFan
08-07-2017, 08:22 PM
OP said "athletes." If DMC is an athlete, so is the guy who wins the hot dog eating contest every year.

Tru dat!! :lmao

Mitch
08-07-2017, 08:37 PM
Tru dat!! :lmao

My hombre Alfonso here would probably be the most athletic person on this site, look at the dude go

https://i.giphy.com/media/2jmnf6gznuL8Q/giphy.webp

unleashbaynes
08-07-2017, 08:59 PM
Running doesn't make you an athlete. Some people play real sports. Not trying to be the best at exercising.

Avante
08-07-2017, 09:29 PM
lane

1.Michael Johnson Baylor
2.Tommie Smith SJS
3.WVN South Africa
4.Avante COS
5.Herb McKenley Jamaica/Illinois
6.Usain Bolt Jamaica
7.Henry Carr Arizona State
8.Eric Liddell GB

DMC
08-07-2017, 10:06 PM
OP said "athletes." If DMC is an athlete, so is the guy who wins the hot dog eating contest every year.

Not going to lie those donuts do look good.

apalisoc_9
08-07-2017, 11:35 PM
Not going to lie those donuts do look good.

I don't think anyne would actually believe you if you said otherwise so your post makes no sense. Useless post.

DMC
08-07-2017, 11:39 PM
I don't think anyne would actually believe you if you said otherwise so your post makes no sense. Useless post.

Is this person related to Kanye?

You still blowing FIFA players on ST?:lmao

whitemamba
08-07-2017, 11:44 PM
I could beat DMC (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) unless this was at the finish line tbh:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR8VLNOaaNIO8DCxlhPCXioZZkfp3JWO _JycvB6fd14U_yjmdqq

:lol

i heard they added peanut butter on top... you don't stand a chance homie :lol

https://m.qsrmagazine.com/news/krispy-kreme-debuts-reese-s-peanut-butter-doughnut

run DMC!!

DAF86
08-07-2017, 11:48 PM
Kyle Anderson.

Chris
08-08-2017, 02:23 AM
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--5SNlSUTZ--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/waupuq1osdxqsmrj1aif.jpg

http://deadspin.com/brazilian-soccer-club-rocked-by-locker-room-double-hand-1796682838

Robz4000
08-08-2017, 02:38 AM
You wouldn't even need a 300 meter run for handjobball players, they'd just beat you in the showers.

Spurtacular
08-08-2017, 05:20 AM
Mike trout


Fucking retard on the loose.

Spurtacular
08-08-2017, 05:21 AM
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--5SNlSUTZ--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/waupuq1osdxqsmrj1aif.jpg

http://deadspin.com/brazilian-soccer-club-rocked-by-locker-room-double-hand-1796682838

:lmao

LkrFan
08-08-2017, 07:24 AM
i heard they added peanut butter on top... you don't stand a chance homie :lol

https://m.qsrmagazine.com/news/krispy-kreme-debuts-reese-s-peanut-butter-doughnut

run DMC!!

Damn! :lmao

LkrFan
08-08-2017, 07:26 AM
My hombre Alfonso here would probably be the most athletic person on this site, look at the dude go

https://i.giphy.com/media/2jmnf6gznuL8Q/giphy.webp

:lol

That's some old school cartoon shiiiiit! :lmao

Darth_Pelican
08-08-2017, 08:14 AM
lane

1.Michael Johnson Baylor
2.Tommie Smith SJS
3.WVN South Africa
4.Avante COS
5.Herb McKenley Jamaica/Illinois
6.Usain Bolt Jamaica
7.Henry Carr Arizona State
8.Eric Liddell GB

I'd take the guy in lane 4 if there were a 14 year old girl gifted to the winner waiting at the finish line.

DMC
08-08-2017, 08:50 AM
i heard they added peanut butter on top... you don't stand a chance homie :lol

https://m.qsrmagazine.com/news/krispy-kreme-debuts-reese-s-peanut-butter-doughnut

run DMC!!
Not a peanut butter person. How about you? Nutella?

DMC
08-08-2017, 08:53 AM
You wouldn't even need a 300 meter run for handjobball players, they'd just beat you in the showers.

:lol

TDMVPDPOY
08-08-2017, 09:08 AM
i heard they added peanut butter on top... you don't stand a chance homie :lol

https://m.qsrmagazine.com/news/krispy-kreme-debuts-reese-s-peanut-butter-doughnut

run DMC!!

u tried them Nutella donuts? ....

whitemamba
08-08-2017, 09:13 AM
u tried them Nutella donuts? ....
Not a big sugar guy tbh

whitemamba
08-08-2017, 09:15 AM
Not a peanut butter person. How about you? Nutella?
Peanut Butter >Nutella

lebomb
08-08-2017, 10:09 AM
I can smoke Butterbean in the 300m.

BD24
08-08-2017, 10:29 AM
This fucking dumb ass thinking he could outrun jeter or trout :lol

Horse
08-08-2017, 12:28 PM
Your dad when he comes home early.

apalisoc_9
08-08-2017, 02:27 PM
Yeah I have no doubt in my mind I can beat these "Athletes"

http://m.mlb.com/images/4/0/6/184507406/061616_pitnym_colon_running_slowly_low_hrkik2t0.gi f

DMC
08-08-2017, 03:05 PM
Yeah I have no doubt in my mind I can beat these "Athletes"

http://m.mlb.com/images/4/0/6/184507406/061616_pitnym_colon_running_slowly_low_hrkik2t0.gi f

You don't get to do that without hitting the ball over the fence. You couldn't hold the bat :lol

FkLA
08-08-2017, 03:07 PM
Fat boy standing up for Fatolo Colon. :lol

FkLA
08-08-2017, 03:08 PM
Colon is in his 40s and morbidly obese yet still a solid starter in fatball. You won't ever see that in a real sport.

apalisoc_9
08-08-2017, 03:10 PM
Colon is in his 40s and morbidly obese yet still a solid starter in fatball. You won't ever see that in a real sport.

I am American!! :madrun

DMC
08-08-2017, 03:18 PM
Fat boy standing up for Fatolo Colon. :lol

Bend over, I'll stand up for your colon.

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 06:16 PM
Colon is in his 40s and morbidly obese yet still a solid starter in fatball. You won't ever see that in a real sport.

A morbidly obese 46 year old became the best boxer in the world. :lol

DMC
08-08-2017, 06:31 PM
:lol

+ A Mexican commenting about someone being fat is :lol as well.

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 07:13 PM
:lol

+ A Mexican commenting about someone being fat is :lol as well.

Another irony is that he comments on the same few fatties in baseball while being a fan of a sport where 40% of the roster is dangerously obese and where 40 year olds with dad-bods dominate the hardest position.

http://gheorghe77.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/cody.jpg

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 07:37 PM
Apa also ain't beating Colon in a sprint. He was clocked last year at 16.2 mph.

http://www.unconventionalstats.com/uploads/4/1/4/0/41403389/position-speed_orig.png

You see the players with top speeds under 16mph were able to run 5.1ish 40s. So Colon is in the 5.0 40 range.

apalisoc_9
08-08-2017, 08:04 PM
Mid's sources are starting to sound more ridiculous by day :lmao

Bartolo colon is now a fast sprinter according to his source :lmao

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 08:11 PM
Mid's sources are starting to sound more ridiculous by day :lmao

Bartolo colon is now a fast sprinter according to his source :lmao

My sources are nfl combine stats, mlb statcast, and basic math.

Sorry I killed your weak troll effort with facts.

DMC
08-08-2017, 08:57 PM
The Sleeper Cell getting wrecked over and over, still taking L's from the double fisted shower shuffle.

FkLA
08-08-2017, 09:26 PM
A morbidly obese 46 year old became the best boxer in the world. :lol

Old and coming out of retirement with his body looking washed af? Yes. Morbidly obese? No. On Fatolo's level? Hell no.

Nice try though. :lol

http://res.cloudinary.com/jpress/image/fetch/w_700,f_auto,ar_3:2,c_fill/http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.3595600.1415217724!/image/4107919952.jpg

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/bartolo-colon-jiggles-his-belly.gif

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 09:32 PM
Old and coming out of retirement with his body looking washed af? Yes. Morbidly obese? No. On Fatolo's level? Hell no.

Nice try though. :lol

http://res.cloudinary.com/jpress/image/fetch/w_700,f_auto,ar_3:2,c_fill/http://www.scotsman.com/webimage/1.3595600.1415217724!/image/4107919952.jpg

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/bartolo-colon-jiggles-his-belly.gif

Nice cherry picked angle.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/George-Foreman.jpg

Look at that gut.

Also, when did Colon become the best in the world?

"Solid starter" Colon has an 8.00 era this year. Career ERA above 4.00. He was an average-to-below pitcher with a couple good years.

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 09:34 PM
Here's the heavyweight champ of Texas. So this guy was a "solid pro fighter."

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bL1J-zE8EHg/maxresdefault.jpg

:cry Fat guys only count against the sport when they're in baseball :cry

And also, your favorite sport is the fattest ball sport in the world by far :toast

FkLA
08-08-2017, 09:35 PM
Apa also ain't beating Colon in a sprint. He was clocked last year at 16.2 mph.

http://www.unconventionalstats.com/uploads/4/1/4/0/41403389/position-speed_orig.png

You see the players with top speeds under 16mph were able to run 5.1ish 40s. So Colon is in the 5.0 40 range.

lol 5.0 40 yd dash

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He was clocked in at 16.2 mph for how long? Like a split second? We both know that walrus can't sustain that speed over 300m. Those stats of yours are sounding shadier and shadier, tbh.

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 09:40 PM
lol 5.0 40 yd dash

5d5f8Igo_vw

He was clocked in at 16.2 mph for how long? Like a split second? We both know that walrus can't sustain that speed over 300m. Those stats of yours are sounding shadier and shadier, tbh.

Why would he gear up on a sure standup double?

Another cherry pick.

https://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2016/06/17/images/mlbf_822611083_th_45.jpg

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2016/08/27/images/mlbf_1099818283_th_45.jpg

:madrun the stats are shady because they defeat my argument :madrun

FkLA
08-08-2017, 09:45 PM
Nice cherry picked angle.

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/George-Foreman.jpg

Look at that gut.

Also, when did Colon become the best in the world?

"Solid starter" Colon has an 8.00 era this year. Career ERA above 4.00. He was an average-to-below pitcher with a couple good years.

Still not morbidly obese. He's packing plenty of muscle underneath. You don't go from this:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111135095/3867913-george-foreman-7.jpg

to morbidly obese. Also lol at Texas champ. Maybe I should start looking for fat fatball players in the Guatemalan league. Keep reaching bro. :lol

FkLA
08-08-2017, 09:56 PM
Why would he gear up on a sure standup double?

Another cherry pick.

https://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2016/06/17/images/mlbf_822611083_th_45.jpg

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2016/08/27/images/mlbf_1099818283_th_45.jpg

:madrun the stats are shady because they defeat my argument :madrun

(90ft+90ft) / 11.4 sec = 15.79 ft/s = 10.77 mph

Talk about fucking cherry picking. I can hit close to 30 mph on my bike doesn't mean I'm going to claim that I can do that for a significant amount of time.

Also why is it that fatball's numbers always compare favorably to other sports? Like even the doughiest motherfucker in all of MLB is supposed to be faster than any NFL O-lineman? Some of which are physical specimen? It just doesn't pass the eye test. That's like if I said Neymar could bench more than Stanton.:lol

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 10:11 PM
(90ft+90ft) / 11.4 sec = 15.79 ft/s = 10.77 mph

Talk about fucking cherry picking. I can hit close to 30 mph on my bike doesn't mean I'm going to claim that I can do that for a significant amount of time.

Also why is it that fatball's numbers always compare favorably to other sports? Like even the doughiest motherfucker in all of MLB is supposed to be faster than any NFL O-lineman? Some of which are physical specimen? It just doesn't pass the eye test. That's like if I said Neymar could bench more than Stanton.:lol

Are you this dumb?

First of all, average=/=top speed. Usain Bolt averaged 23.3 over 100m in his 9.58 world record sprint, reaching a max of about 28mph.

Second of all, if you watch the videos, Colon slows up a lot after rounding first since a standup double is guaranteed.

:lol Eye-test.

Watch NFL combine sprints of fat ass 360lb linemen. They look uncoordinated and slow as fuck, until you look up and see a 5.3 time.

Bartolo Colon weighs a good 70 less than an NFL lineman. Despite his fat face, stupid ass haircut, and gut, the guy is athletic. Used to throw 102 mph (and you need an absurd amount of leg strength to generate velocities like that), has more muscle mass in his forearms alone than Neymar has in his entire body, and contrary to your belief, he puts in work during the off-season.

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2/6/4/161065264/010515_bartolo_workout_med_u92rpb3k.gif

FkLA
08-08-2017, 10:26 PM
Are you this dumb?

First of all, average=/=top speed. Usain Bolt averaged 23.3 over 100m in his 9.58 world record sprint, reaching a max of about 28mph.

Second of all, if you watch the videos, Colon slows up a lot after rounding first since a standup double is guaranteed.

:lol Eye-test.

Watch NFL combine sprints of fat ass 360lb linemen. They look uncoordinated and slow as fuck, until you look up and see a 5.3 time.

Bartolo Colon weighs a good 70 less than an NFL lineman. Despite his fat face, stupid ass haircut, and gut, the guy is athletic. Used to throw 102 mph (and you need an absurd amount of leg strength to generate velocities like that), has more muscle mass in his forearms alone than Neymar has in his entire body, and contrary to your belief, he puts in work during the off-season.

http://mlb.mlb.com/images/2/6/4/161065264/010515_bartolo_workout_med_u92rpb3k.gif

I had no idea that they weren't the same. Thanks for helping me out. :rolleyes

The point I was trying to make was that a guy his size will lose steam fast. That 16.2 mph number looks nice on it's own until you realize he can't sustain it for more than a split second. I did misread the chart you provided though. That's the average top speed of all lineman for each respective position. So there's plenty of lineman out there who are faster than Fatolo, it's just the slower guys are bringing down the average.

I also wouldn't say Fatolo is 70 lbs lighter than NFL lineman. He's atleast 300 lbs. Plenty of LTs lighter than that. And I don't think most lineman are upwards of 350. :lol

FkLA
08-08-2017, 10:32 PM
And obviously the guy is doing something right to stay in MLF this long. I'm not claiming he's some sedentary slob like DMC. Still, no matter how you slice it it's pretty embarrassing for your game that a guy upwards of 40 and in horrible shape (especially for a pro athlete) is still hanging around. He started off like 10-0 or something crazy like that just last season, no?

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 10:37 PM
I had no idea that they weren't the same. Thanks for helping me out. :rolleyes

The point I was trying to make was that a guy his size will lose steam fast. That 16.2 mph number looks nice on it's own until you realize he can't sustain it for more than a split second. I did misread the chart you provided though. That's the average top speed of all lineman for each respective position. So there's plenty of lineman out there who are faster than Fatolo, it's just the slower guys are bringing down the average.

I also wouldn't say Fatolo is 70 lbs lighter than NFL lineman. He's atleast 300 lbs. Plenty of LTs lighter than that. And I don't think most lineman are upwards of 350. :lol

How do you know? We don't have evidence either way. Colon is a pitcher, and pitchers obviously don't hit a lot of doubles and triples, steal bases, score from 1st to home, where we can get a true measure of their max effort speeds over a decent distance. Colon is about 270. He's only 5'11".

I'm not claiming Colon is faster than all lineman, I'm correlating top sprint speeds to 40 times. If you can reach a 16mph, you can probably run a 5ish 40.

I also don't know why your lot is so fixated on weight and fatness? Soccer is the only sport where all the players are skinny (er. skinnyfat), and some of them look like 12 year old girls, which is equally as unathletic a body as fatness.

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 10:41 PM
And obviously the guy is doing something right to stay in MLF this long. I'm not claiming he's some sedentary slob like DMC. Still, no matter how you slice it it's pretty embarrassing for your game that a guy upwards of 40 and in horrible shape (especially for a pro athlete) is still hanging around. He started off like 10-0 or something crazy like that just last season, no?

It's more embarrassing for a game when a guy who is built like a woman is the highest paid player in soccer.

It's embarrassing for a sport when a guy in such terrible shape as this was the face of NFL defensive players.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slideshows/487/slideshow_48720/display_image.jpg?x=769709

FkLA
08-08-2017, 10:50 PM
How do you know? We don't have evidence either way. Colon is a pitcher, and pitchers obviously don't hit a lot of doubles and triples, steal bases, score from 1st to home, where we can get a true measure of their max effort speeds over a decent distance. Colon is about 270. He's only 5'11".

I'm not claiming Colon is faster than all lineman, I'm correlating top sprint speeds to 40 times. If you can reach a 16mph, you can probably run a 5ish 40.

I also don't know why your lot is so fixated on weight and fatness? Soccer is the only sport where all the players are skinny (er. skinnyfat), and some of them look like 12 year old girls, which is equally as unathletic a body as a fatness.

:lol He's officially listed at 285, bro. That's probably generous too. Just like Diaw was always listed at like 225. But even if we go with what he's listed at he's not 70 lbs lighter than NFL lineman unless you think all of them are 355+.

Full disclosure, after like 4.7 or so I'm not too adept at knowing whether a time is fast or not relative to size. So I guess it's possible he could run a 5.0-5.1 40.

What do you mean? Fat does not go with sport. Its a detriment to almost any form of movement.

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 10:55 PM
Honestly, though, fatness is actually more valuable as a body type than thinness.

5'8", 140lb.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/c1/00/4f/c1004f84d3affabd361cd673f5acc72f--futbol-soccer-neymar-jr.jpg

Discounting weight class sports, Neymar can't play (at a high level):

Rugby, Rugby League, Gaelic Football, Football, Baseball, Basketball, Aussie Rules, Cricket, Volleyball (too short), Waterpolo (too short and too light. Also a lot of good fat guys in WP), and Handball.

Tennis is about the only ball sport he can walk into and not get killed or have his puny size be a massive detriment (hitting and throwing in baseball, spiking in volleyball, etc).

FkLA
08-08-2017, 10:58 PM
It's more embarrassing for a game when a guy who is built like a woman is the highest paid player in soccer.

It's embarrassing for a sport when a guy in such terrible shape as this was the face of NFL defensive players.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slideshows/487/slideshow_48720/display_image.jpg?x=769709

Lettuce be honest though. That girl body helps Neymar in soccer. That body helped Wilfork close up gaps. Being morbidly obese didn't help Colon since he made it to the majors in shape. He just ballooned because he can. Because your game requires so little physical exertion. Other guys like Miggy Cabrera have done the same and let themselves go too (to a lesser extent obviously) yet remained effective.

Your dull, stationary game allows it. Just like golf, bowling, billiards, and darts does.

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 11:01 PM
:lol He's officially listed at 285, bro. That's probably generous too. Just like Diaw was always listed at like 225. But even if we go with what he's listed at he's not 70 lbs lighter than NFL lineman unless you think all of them are 355+.

Full disclosure, after like 4.7 or so I'm not too adept at knowing whether a time is fast or not relative to size. So I guess it's possible he could run a 5.0-5.1 40.

What do you mean? Fat does not go with sport. Its a detriment to almost any form of movement.

You'll see in my latest post where I show fatness is more valuable than thinness in a lot of sports, especially depending on position.

Fatness is valuable in:

Power lifting, shot put, javelin, discus, combat sports at the heavier classes, football, and rugby.

It's not even valuable in baseball. All your favorites (Sandoval, Fielder, Colon, CC) are below average to average players.

Thinness doesn't really go with sport, either. Limited muscle mass prevents athletic and explosive movements.

midnightpulp
08-08-2017, 11:06 PM
Lettuce be honest though. That girl body helps Neymar in soccer. That body helped Wilfork close up gaps. Being morbidly obese didn't help Colon since he made it to the majors in shape. He just ballooned because he can. Because your game requires so little physical exertion. Other guys like Miggy Cabrera have done the same and let themselves go too (to a lesser extent obviously) yet remained effective.

Your dull, stationary game allows it. Just like golf, bowling, billiards, and darts does.

Sports which are built around girly body types aren't real sports.

Miguel Cabrera. Unathletic? Okay.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1pYKTsWVdeo/hqdefault.jpg

:lol At all these moving goalposts.

"Well, my sport NEEDS those players to look like girls or be clinically obese, so it's okay. But a few cherry picked players got fat and were decent players, so it's different." That said, if girly body types can succeed at a sport, what's that say about the athletic demands of said sport? I don't give a shit about stamina. All the unathletic kids ran cross-country. Color me unimpressed.

Weight can also help increase pitching velocity and hitting power, so it does help, but this depends on the individual player's physiology and the position. Too much muscle mass is actually a detriment to flexibility.

It's also like skill and knowledge don't exist in your world. Colon can make up for his lack of athleticism with skill. Would he be better if he was still in the shape of his younger days? Have no idea. If he retained his skill and flexibility while putting on the extra weight, he might've become even better. Some body types don't do well with excessive muscle mass.

Happens in boxing all the time. Texas's own (and likely a distant relative of yours) Homero Fonseca has won titles and remained an effective professional boxer looking like this. And no :lol Texas Champ. The MLB is 800 players deep. In boxing, only a select few are good enough to compete for a world title. Them being the absolute best-of-the-best doesn't invalidate the effective professional boxers who are good enough to win regional titles, get televised fights, and make a living off the sport.

Don't think I'm making fun of El Oso. Guy has skills and is someone I respect more as an athlete than any soccer twink. Look at him press the action against a former Olympian and the 12th ranked HW in the world. Nice footwork and combination work there. El Oso also went the distance with Andy Ruiz Jr., 14th ranked HW in the world.

https://media.giphy.com/media/t5rTHSbanm0Eg/giphy.gif

baseline bum
08-09-2017, 01:09 AM
Probably Paul Williams

pookenstein
08-09-2017, 01:28 AM
Limited muscle mass prevents athletic and explosive movements.

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pookenstein
08-09-2017, 01:30 AM
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pookenstein
08-09-2017, 01:32 AM
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pookenstein
08-09-2017, 01:36 AM
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pookenstein
08-09-2017, 01:39 AM
That's just four examples where limited muscle mass obviously doesn't prevent athletic and explosive movements.

midnightpulp
08-09-2017, 04:28 AM
That's just four examples where limited muscle mass obviously doesn't prevent athletic and explosive movements.

Prevent was a bad choice of words. I should've used limited.

Rohler looks pretty ripped (he's also 6'3", so he has naturally has body mass through height as well):

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/c0.134.1080.1080/13556749_1047727308676349_1088128128_n.jpg?ig_cach e_key=MTI4NDk3MDAzNjYyNDI1ODQ2MA%3D%3D.2.c

https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e15/c236.0.607.607/15875870_1035554906591084_6767225530426064896_n.jp g?ig_cache_key=MTQyNDc1OTgzNjQxMDY0ODA3Mw%3D%3D.2. c

So does Taylor:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/01/22/42DF342800000578-0-image-a-34_1501621755500.jpg

Long jump gold medalist:

http://www.runblogrun.com/assets_c/2016/11/Henderson_JefferyQ-OlyTr16-thumb-500x750-19814.jpg

Bolt and Powell:

http://www.ronaldo7.net/news/2012/cristiano-ronaldo-540-usain-bolt-shirtless-and-half-naked-showing-abdominals-chest-and-arm-muscles-in-2011-2012.jpg

Gatin:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/02/article-0-0517C5C90000044D-621_306x442.jpg

Shot put gold medalist:

http://www.letsrun.com/photos/2014/ncaa-indoor-2/images/140315%20CROUSER%20Ryan3%20KL.JPG

More muscle mass, more explosion. Basic physics. There's certainly a tipping point, like a 350lb sprinter, no matter how much muscle mass, won't be much of a threat, but a sprinter who's 130lb soaking wet isn't doing much either.

midnightpulp
08-09-2017, 07:07 AM
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pookenstein
08-09-2017, 08:20 AM
Sorry, work got in the way.
Röhler looks like a lot of Footballers do. Lewandowski for example. And my point sill stands: there are plenty of "thin People" sports that rely on athletic and explosive movements. In fact for sports like high jump a more muscular frame would be hindering.

midnightpulp
08-09-2017, 08:40 AM
Sorry, work got in the way.
Röhler looks like a lot of Footballers do. Lewandowski for example. And my point sill stands: there are plenty of "thin People" sports that rely on athletic and explosive movements. In fact for sports like high jump a more muscular frame would be hindering.

I wouldn't necessarily consider Rohler's build "thin." This is thin/skinny:

http://oldtraffordfaithful.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/BzcXQw3CMAAEnJz.jpg-large.jpeg

And I know there's muscular soccer players. I'm just using the dumb logic of, "Well, look at his guy's crappy body I cherry picked! If he can make it as pro in that sport, the sport must not be demanding!"

I can cherry pick a bunch of great soccer players who look like anorexic school girls and make the same argument. End of the day, I think it's a silly criterion. Every person is different. Some get better with muscle mass, lost weight, some get worse. Some people are strong as shit despite looking skinny, while some who are jacked aren't very strong. Sometimes it's more effective to be fat than ripped. I mean, Bob Sapp was of 350lb muscle, while NFL linemen are clinically obese. Why don't the strength and conditioning coaches force lineman to pack on 350lb of muscle instead? Probably because it's useless.

pookenstein
08-09-2017, 10:43 AM
IMO there's a big difference between thin and skinny, but I get what you're saying. Got that before you said it. I just had some time to kill and thought I'd participate a bit in the whole football/baseball back-and-forth.
You keep doing your thing, you'll bait the usual guys into the next round of the same "discussion".

:bobo

midnightpulp
08-09-2017, 11:03 AM
IMO there's a big difference between thin and skinny, but I get what you're saying. Got that before you said it. I just had some time to kill and thought I'd participate a bit in the whole football/baseball back-and-forth.
You keep doing your thing, you'll bait the usual guys into the next round of the same "discussion".

:bobo

:lol They bait me, but I can't help calling out bad arguments and logic.

FkLA
08-09-2017, 05:09 PM
Sports which are built around girly body types aren't real sports.

Miguel Cabrera. Unathletic? Okay.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1pYKTsWVdeo/hqdefault.jpg

:lol At all these moving goalposts.

"Well, my sport NEEDS those players to look like girls or be clinically obese, so it's okay. But a few cherry picked players got fat and were decent players, so it's different." That said, if girly body types can succeed at a sport, what's that say about the athletic demands of said sport? I don't give a shit about stamina. All the unathletic kids ran cross-country. Color me unimpressed.

Weight can also help increase pitching velocity and hitting power, so it does help, but this depends on the individual player's physiology and the position. Too much muscle mass is actually a detriment to flexibility.

It's also like skill and knowledge don't exist in your world. Colon can make up for his lack of athleticism with skill. Would he be better if he was still in the shape of his younger days? Have no idea. If he retained his skill and flexibility while putting on the extra weight, he might've become even better. Some body types don't do well with excessive muscle mass.

Happens in boxing all the time. Texas's own (and likely a distant relative of yours) Homero Fonseca has won titles and remained an effective professional boxer looking like this. And no :lol Texas Champ. The MLB is 800 players deep. In boxing, only a select few are good enough to compete for a world title. Them being the absolute best-of-the-best doesn't invalidate the effective professional boxers who are good enough to win regional titles, get televised fights, and make a living off the sport.

Don't think I'm making fun of El Oso. Guy has skills and is someone I respect more as an athlete than any soccer twink. Look at him press the action against a former Olympian and the 12th ranked HW in the world. Nice footwork and combination work there. El Oso also went the distance with Andy Ruiz Jr., 14th ranked HW in the world.

https://media.giphy.com/media/t5rTHSbanm0Eg/giphy.gif

Noone said Cabrera is unathletic. Simply that fatball is so dull and requires so little physical exertion that he can remain elite despite this transformation:

http://redticketblues.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1-miguel-cabrera-marlins-fire-sale.jpg?w=300

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/theoutsidecorner/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2012/08/cabrera2.jpg

DMC
08-09-2017, 05:22 PM
Noone said Cabrera is unathletic. Simply that fatball is so dull and requires so little physical exertion that he can remain elite despite this transformation:

http://redticketblues.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1-miguel-cabrera-marlins-fire-sale.jpg?w=300

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/theoutsidecorner/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2012/08/cabrera2.jpg

Barkley
Diaw
Shaq

Basketball is easy too, especially the pros.

apalisoc_9
08-09-2017, 05:23 PM
Barkley
Diaw
Shaq

Basketball is easy too, especially the pros.

Fatass

DMC
08-09-2017, 05:24 PM
Noone said Cabrera is unathletic. Simply that fatball is so dull and requires so little physical exertion that he can remain elite despite this transformation:

http://redticketblues.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1-miguel-cabrera-marlins-fire-sale.jpg?w=300

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/theoutsidecorner/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2012/08/cabrera2.jpg

Barkley
Diaw
Shaq

Basketball is easy too, especially the pros.

You can compare soccer player to cyclists. They have great stamina and aren't big because it would hinder their games, but they aren't athletic beasts by any stretch of the imagination just as the Kenyan runners aren't.

DMC
08-09-2017, 05:32 PM
Fatass

Sleeper Cell, feta and olive eating try hard.

apalisoc_9
08-09-2017, 05:51 PM
Sleeper Cell, feta and olive eating try hard.

Oink oink

midnightpulp
08-09-2017, 06:23 PM
Noone said Cabrera is unathletic. Simply that fatball is so dull and requires so little physical exertion that he can remain elite despite this transformation:

http://redticketblues.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1-miguel-cabrera-marlins-fire-sale.jpg?w=300

http://cdn1.thecomeback.com/theoutsidecorner/wp-content/uploads/sites/19/2012/08/cabrera2.jpg

That exactly what you're arguing since your entire implication is that fatness impairs athleticism. Depending on the sport, position, and person, fatness can actually be a benefit.

Also, Cabrera doesn't even look particularly fat. He put on something called mass, which you should be familiar with loving the fattest sport in the world.

http://eastbayhittinginstruction.com/uploads/3/4/3/4/34347417/9390410_orig.jpg

DMC
08-09-2017, 06:25 PM
Oink oink

"allah akbar..." *boom*

Clipper Nation
08-09-2017, 06:37 PM
Oink oink
:lol

apalisoc_9
08-09-2017, 07:17 PM
"allah akbar..." *boom*

Tell that to Freedom! ☆boom☆..., oink oink

DMC
08-09-2017, 07:58 PM
Tell that to Freedom! ☆boom☆..., oink oink

Sitting on richest oil reserves in the world: Suffering from poverty: Moves to North America to run a gas station = irony

apalisoc_9
08-09-2017, 08:00 PM
Sitting on richest oil reserves in the world: Suffering from poverty: Moves to North America to run a gas station = irony

You are forbiden to me.

Get out of my sight porky.

DMC
08-09-2017, 08:24 PM
You are forbiden to me.

Get out of my sight porky.

There's a reason dying is the only way you'll ever get pussy.

apalisoc_9
08-09-2017, 08:48 PM
There's a reason dying is the only way you'll ever get pussy.

Oink oinks with the audacity to talk about Pussy..:lol

DMC
08-09-2017, 10:24 PM
Oink oinks with the audacity to talk about Pussy..:lol

Middle Eastern humor

apalisoc_9
08-09-2017, 10:48 PM
Middle Eastern humor

Oink oink..

dfens
08-10-2017, 07:55 AM
Oink oinks with the audacity to talk about Pussy..:lol

maybe he has one tbh ?

DMC
08-10-2017, 10:34 AM
maybe he has one tbh ?

https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/1fj1JEcygVZiMRKlsPr17jw-1.jpeg

dfens
08-11-2017, 01:30 PM
https://www.wired.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/1fj1JEcygVZiMRKlsPr17jw-1.jpeg

I honestly don't understand what your milleneal brain is trying to communicate.

apalisoc_9
08-11-2017, 03:56 PM
I honestly don't understand what your milleneal brain is trying to communicate.

dude, just reply oink oink..it gets to him :lol

dfens
08-11-2017, 04:09 PM
dude, just reply oink oink..it gets to him :lol

son that's mean tbh.