WMD 2 the sequel

[CosmicCowboy]

Fuck
Suddenly north korea has miniaturized nuclear warheads?
Give me a fucking break.

[Pavlov]

#wagthejong

[SpursforSix]

Fuck
Suddenly north korea has miniaturized nuclear warheads?
Give me a fucking break.

Well in this case, North Korea has already said they have them.

[CosmicCowboy]

Well in this case, North Korea has already said they have them.
So did Sadaam.

[SpursforSix]

So did Sadaam.

I don't remember that tbh. Regardless, I don't think I'd dismiss North Korea as not having them.

And he sure didn't have the capability to hit the U.S.

[RandomGuy]

Fuck
Suddenly north korea has miniaturized nuclear warheads?
Give me a fucking break.

They don't.

They now have poor quality ICBM's, much like the first generation or so of those we and the Soviets had.

[baseline bum]

This ain't gonna be Iraq though. North Korea's army is almost as big as ours.

[Thread]

+ just yesterday they were at least 2 years away from having nukes.

Just shows ta go ya.

[Pavlov]

I'm still more concerned about Pakistan's having nukes. I don't see Jong-un's using a nuke unless he's actually attacked bigly.

[Thread]

I'm still more concerned about Pakistan's having nukes. I don't see Jong-un's using a nuke unless he's actually attacked bigly.

Precisely. So just leave him the fuck alone and concentrate on the homeland.

[Pavlov]

Precisely. So just leave him the fuck alone and concentrate on the homeland.Nah, I'm actually fine with Rexxon's overtures. I actually want to see the US follow through on an agreement with DPRK. It's just not that hard to ship some grain and fuel oil every once in awhile.

[ducks]

This ain't gonna be Iraq though. North Korea's army is almost as big as ours.

no shit trump will go in to kill the fuck out of them and not play politically correct war

[boutons_deux]

Did General Kelly vet this nuclear-war-mongering tweet? :lol

All y'all's Trash asshole is one sick motherfucker, and the Repug Congress is enabling, protecting him

[clambake]

no shit trump will go in to kill the fuck out of them and not play politically correct war

oh terrific.


you think our allies will all be ok?

[AaronY]

no shit trump will go in to kill the fuck out of them and not play politically correct war
Sounds very simple. Thanks for explaining it I thought maybe I was overthinking it.

[Pavlov]

If this dumbass starts a war while he's golfing....

[DMC]

If this dumbass starts a war while he's golfing....

You'll create another alt? Blog? Meme?

[Pavlov]

You'll create another alt? Blog? Meme?I don't know why you would limit war reactions to me, but whatever is important to you.

[baseline bum]

no shit trump will go in to kill the fuck out of them and not play politically correct warHe should rape them first so they know not to start this shit again before he kills them

[z0sa]

The Korean war never ended. It's a miracle that that Peninsula has not been a nuclear Wasteland since the early fifties. Of all the wars America has fought in post-world war II, this is probably the one we should all be least surprised about re igniting... should that occur.

[hater]

Seoul is just too damn close to the border for a real war to break realistically. Last war there were a million dead and koreans lived in holes and huts back then.

N Korean artillery can easily reach Seoul from safe distances.

The only way I see uncle sam attacking is if they strike a deal with China beforehand.

Just dont see that happening so IMO there will be no war yet.

And :lmao at the retards believing N Korean threats. They been threatening the US for decades, yet US mainstream media still eats it up.

Only an accident or miscalculation could cause a war and then wed be talking about several million dead.

And if nukes are involved probably the end of all life on the planet.

[SpursforSix]

Probably a false flag to draw attention away from the Cornell, Bennington, and Campbell murders.

[ducks]

So McCain calls people when he on drugs and says he knows the most
What a piece of shit he is

[florige]

Precisely. So just leave him the fuck alone and concentrate on the homeland.


Your boy can't seem to stay off Twitter long enough even on vacation. They are baiting him all the way.

[DMC]

I don't know why you would limit war reactions to me, but whatever is important to you.

You're the one issuing the warning - "if this..." generally is followed by "then this".

[Chucho]

"My alt" packing 100k Poster's ass in. Bigly.

[Chucho]

Hey, Kyle Orton is reading this thread! His nuclear meltdown was more massive than whatever that tranny gook could muster. North Korea is a non-threat.

[Pavlov]

You're the one issuing the warning - "if this..." generally is followed by "then this".
:lol warning

Everything is so dramatic with you.

[Axl Rose]

Found chumpdumper

[ducks]

Good deal Clinton said
Liar

[Pavlov]

Good deal Clinton said
LiarWhat else was he going to do? Start a war? #wagthejong

[Down Under]

Best way to increase your approval rating - take the focus off important domestic issues and inflate the national security threat.

[Thread]

Best way to increase your approval rating - take the focus off important domestic issues and inflate the national security threat.

Why would WAPO, in association with CNN do that?

[Thread]

Your boy can't seem to stay off Twitter long enough even on vacation. They are baiting him all the way.

Who, WAPO, CNN, or that slope in the North?

[SnakeBoy]

This ain't gonna be Iraq though. North Korea's army is almost as big as ours.

Meh, a bunch of guys with guns doesn't mean shit. Just South Korea's military strength is double NK, add the US military to the mix and NK will be crushed in 2 weeks.

[Down Under]

Why would WAPO, in association with CNN do that?
Media been doing it for 50 years?

[Thread]

Media been doing it for 50 years?

Just checkin' assholes.

[florige]

Who, WAPO, CNN, or that slope in the North?



Actually all of the the above. But lately just the fat turd.

[hater]

Best way to increase your approval rating - take the focus off important domestic issues and inflate the national security threat.

Clinton did it

Bush did it

[hater]

Meh, a bunch of guys with guns doesn't mean shit. Just South Korea's military strength is double NK, add the US military to the mix and NK will be crushed in 2 weeks.

We cant even beat 2,000 guys with guns in Raqqa for months

NK has 2 million men with guns, heavy artillery and possibly one or 2 nukes


Yeah 2 weeks sounds reasonable

[ducks]

What else was he going to do? Start a war? #wagthejong

he gave them billions
just like the former president gave iran billions

[Pavlov]

he gave them billions
just like the former president gave iran billionsBut did you die?

[ducks]

Trump talked to national security team before North Korea warning — but not foreign leaders

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/09/politics/trump-north-korea-latest/index.html

[ducks]

But did you die?

iran could blow the usa up with that kind of money then I will die and so will YOU

[Pavlov]

iran could blow the usa up with that kind of money then I will die and so will YOUIran has no interest in blowing up the US, especially Yuma.

Meanwhile....

TRUMP: North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. He has been very threatening -- beyond a normal statement. As I said, they will be met with fire, fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before.

KIM: [threatens US again]

TRUMP: Hopefully we will never have to use this power....

[RandomGuy]

Meh, a bunch of guys with guns doesn't mean shit. Just South Korea's military strength is double NK, add the US military to the mix and NK will be crushed in 2 weeks.

Dunno. There are a lot of them, and they are completely brainwashed, and they have more artillery that you probably realize.

That said, once their food stops, they will not have long. Every time I see pictures of NK troops below general, I am mindful of how thin they are.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/nintchdbpict000321599706.jpg

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1833254.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/North-Korea.jpg

The famines and malnutrition of decades has got to make their army a lot less robust to supply disruptions than I think some realize.

I think a swift decapitation strike or two would immobilized them. The problem with autocrat's armies is that they fail badly at all levels when they do not have orders.

Two weeks is probably a bit less, but it would be short, with casualties in six to seven or even eight figures, most of which will be civilians in the south.

[hater]

Lol cnn saying we need at least 3 carriers and 100,000 troops in Korea before we can even think of attacking :lol

Also saying wed have to basically pull out of Syria :lol

USA! USA! Noone respects us anymore

[Pavlov]

Dunno. There are a lot of them, and they are completely brainwashed, and they have more artillery that you probably realize.

That said, once their food stops, they will not have long. Every time I see pictures of NK troops below general, I am mindful of how thin they are.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/nintchdbpict000321599706.jpg

http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1833254.ece/ALTERNATES/s1227b/North-Korea.jpg

The famines and malnutrition of decades has got to make their army a lot less robust to supply disruptions than I think some realize.

I think a swift decapitation strike or two would immobilized them. The problem with autocrat's armies is that they fail badly at all levels when they do not have orders.

Two weeks is probably a bit less, but it would be short, with casualties in six to seven or even eight figures, most of which will be civilians in the south.You have to take into account that China supports the DPRK because it simply wants it to exist as a buffer between it and US allies. I could see the possibility of China's moving in quickly to establish a true puppet government and telling the west to back off, adding another challenge for the already severely challenged Trump.

[hater]

China is no USA. They cant just install puppet governments on a whim like we can.

:lmao liberals thinking the North Koreans will give up on Kim Kong like they did with Shillary :lmao

[Pavlov]

China is no USA. They cant just install puppet governments on a whim like we can.:lol hater trying to argue every possible side of an argument.

[hater]

:lol hater trying to argue every possible side of an argument.

Sorry I burst your little fantasy of having china install a puppet government :lol

But this is a public forum and when I see a bad idea I gotta put in my 2 cents. Nothing personal bro

[Pavlov]

Sorry I burst your little fantasy of having china install a puppet government :lolI just raised it as a possibility. Who would stop them? Trump? Rodman? :lmao


But this is a public forum and when I see a bad idea I gotta put in my 2 cents. Nothing personal broYou put your two cents on every possible side of every argument bro. Nothing personal bro.

[hater]

Cool bro. Lets move on

[RandomGuy]

You have to take into account that China supports the DPRK because it simply wants it to exist as a buffer between it and US allies. I could see the possibility of China's moving in quickly to establish a true puppet government and telling the west to back off, adding another challenge for the already severely challenged Trump.

True, but China would be hard pressed to force project quickly enough to react in a meaningful way on the ground before a LOT of casualties. This is not 1950, and operational pace would be pretty fast in terms of rounds down range.

The Chinese have just about lost patience with their "little brother". You are right about them pushing a puppet government, but if the US and NK get into it, we have a huge trade surplus to hold over the Chinese.

Ugly, with a capital UGH.

[Pavlov]

Cool bro. Lets move onActually, I would like to know who you think would stop China from effecting regime change in the DPRK.

[SnakeBoy]

You have to take into account that China supports the DPRK because it simply wants it to exist as a buffer between it and US allies. I could see the possibility of China's moving in quickly to establish a true puppet government and telling the west to back off, adding another challenge for the already severely challenged Trump.

If we had any sense we would want China to move in and setup a puppet govt. Quickly destroying a conventional military force we are really good at, rebuilding afterwards not so much. China would be much better at it since they wouldn't be burdened by human rights.

[RandomGuy]

China is no USA. They cant just install puppet governments on a whim like we can.

:lmao liberals thinking the North Koreans will give up on Kim Kong like they did with Shillary :lmao

You do realize that NK was established as a puppet government by the Chinese, right?

We swept out to the border of China, then China threw a human wave or twenty at our forces there, and pushed back until the armistice.

[RandomGuy]

If we had any sense we would want China to move in and setup a puppet govt. Quickly destroying a conventional military force we are really good at, rebuilding afterwards not so much. China would be much better at it since they wouldn't be burdened by human rights.

China would be better than NK when it comes to human rights.

[TSA]

You have to take into account that China supports the DPRK because it simply wants it to exist as a buffer between it and US allies. I could see the possibility of China's moving in quickly to establish a true puppet government and telling the west to back off, adding another challenge for the already severely challenged Trump.

That may well be the plan, and I think we would support it. China and Russia have already moved troops to their NK borders, they don't want NK refugees flowing into their countries. Best to keep them in NK.

[SnakeBoy]

China would be better than NK when it comes to human rights.

True, anything is an upgrade for the North Koreans, but I'm talking about the immediate aftermath. Assuming there is some non conventional resistance effort, I'm not sure there would be especially if it's the Chinese are running the show.

[RandomGuy]

True, anything is an upgrade for the North Koreans, but I'm talking about the immediate aftermath. Assuming there is some non conventional resistance effort, I'm not sure there would be especially if it's the Chinese are running the show.

It would be a vast improvement for the NK people. That says a lot.

I just wonder what happens to the fucktard Republicans who think that Trump's jizz is magic, when they have to be confronted with President Vroom Vroom's failure to "deal".


How many people will Trump have to literally kill before his base finally gets embarrassed?

[RandomGuy]

...

[SnakeBoy]

It would be a vast improvement for the NK people. That says a lot.

I just wonder what happens to the fucktard Republicans who think that Trump's jizz is magic, when they have to be confronted with President Vroom Vroom's failure to "deal".


How many people will Trump have to literally kill before his base finally gets embarrassed?

No need to wonder, they would win more congressional seats as the regressive progressive base of the Democrats flooded the streets wearing pussy hats and waving pro Kim Jong-un signs.

[RandomGuy]

No need to wonder, they would win more congressional seats as the regressive progressive base of the Democrats flooded the streets wearing pussy hats and waving pro Kim Jong-un signs.

When you are done spanking it to conservative echo-chamber porn, let me know. Sorry to interrupt.

[baseline bum]

Are you guys sure China would be so quick to come to North Korea's aid? Trump and the congress could slap a huge tariff on Chinese imports into the US. China needs us in a way they didn't back when the Korean War started. Is North Korea worth it to China in exchange for crippling their own economy?

[RandomGuy]

Are you guys sure China would be so quick to come to North Korea's aid? Trump and the congress could slap a huge tariff on Chinese imports into the US. China needs us in a way they didn't back when the Korean War started. Is North Korea worth it to China in exchange for crippling their own economy?

A very complex calculus. China would lose face if NK fell, and would not want to be seen as weak to their people.

This spat puts their government in a bit of a bind, but at some point they have to weigh that trade.

[ducks]

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

[AaronY]

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA
Oh, ok.

[TeyshaBlue]

A very complex calculus. China would lose face if NK fell, and would not want to be seen as weak to their people.

This spat puts their government in a bit of a bind, but at some point they have to weigh that trade.

Not to mention it would likely further embolden Taiwan.

[ducks]

Not to mention it would likely further embolden Taiwan.

you expert?

[TeyshaBlue]

No. But I speak in complete sentences. That should count for something.

[AaronY]

No. But I speak in complete sentences. That should count for something.

Can you top this in terms of analysis of the current situation?

"TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA"

[clambake]

Can you top this in terms of analysis of the current situation?

"TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA"

i think thats pretty much cover to cover.

[TeyshaBlue]

Can you top this in terms of analysis of the current situation?

"TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA"

Probably ought to be some commas or something in there.

[TeyshaBlue]

If something did happen, and it won't, it will all be on Trump. His enablment of Kim's rants is stunning in it's stupidity.

[hater]

You do realize that NK was established as a puppet government by the Chinese, right?

We swept out to the border of China, then China threw a human wave or twenty at our forces there, and pushed back until the armistice.

Lol thats a simpleton way of puting it. Korea was divided into 2 entities right after WW2 mainy by US and Soviets but also help of newly UN

After the korean war those 2 entities were put back in their cages also with help of US, China Soviets and UN

[FuzzyLumpkins]

China is no USA. They cant just install puppet governments on a whim like we can.

:lmao liberals thinking the North Koreans will give up on Kim Kong like they did with Shillary :lmao

Tibet, Nepal, Hong Kong, North Korea.

They do it all the time

[hater]

:lmao Kim Fat Kong talking shit directly into Trump:

It called President Trump's remarks on Tuesday that the North risked "fire and fury" as "a load of nonsense".
"Sound dialogue is not possible with such a guy bereft of reason and only absolute force can work on him," it added.

"Such a guy" :lmao

[hater]

Nobody respects us anymore :lol

[Pavlov]

They certainly don't respect Trump.

[ducks]

John Bolton @AmbJohnBolton
Our country & civilians are vulnerable today because BarackObama did not believe in national missile defense. Let’s never forget that.

[ducks]

They certainly don't respect Trump.

They get money from democrats
They respect trump more then them

[Thread]

They certainly don't respect Trump.

Good. That way I know Trump is on the correct track.

[Pavlov]

They get money from democratsAnd Republicans.

They respect trump more then themLess than anyone else.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Just Tried To Blame Obama For His Bungling Of North Korean Crisis

Trump decided to retweet one of the most nefarious warmongering neocons of the Bush era, John Bolton, in an extremely unsubtle attempt to blame President Obama for his own mistakes – but he didn’t even have the stones to call him out himself.



http://washingtonjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/tweet-5.jpg
It’s true, President Obama did not feel the need to devote a horrendous amount of money towards developing a missile defense shield for the United States mainland for the purpose of deflecting missiles from North Korea, the threat of which he was confident that negotiation and soft power would be enough to deter.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/10/trump-just-tried-blame-obama-bungling-north-korean-crisis/

[boutons_deux]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ugJZhL-cbc

[hater]

And Republicans.
Less than anyone else.

Kim Kong called Barack hussein a monkey :lol

[hater]

Kim Kong just said Trump is acting senile while vacationing on his golf links :lmao

[Thread]

Kim Kong just said Trump is acting senile while vacationing on his golf links :lmao

Precisely. North ain't about to give up the good life.

[boutons_deux]

So Trash is gonna bomb NK and it's Obama's fault.

If Obama had bombed NK, the Repugs would have trashed him as reckless, blood-thirsty, out of control, overreaching, etc, etc

[CosmicCowboy]

Our best hope is that the NK generals kill fatboy when he orders them to attack.

[Quadzilla99]

Our best hope is that the NK generals kill fatboy when he orders them to attack.

Maybe the US could take him out with a drone strike or something from a satellite and his people would be happy rather than retaliate

[RandomGuy]

Maybe the US could take him out with a drone strike or something from a satellite and his people would be happy rather than retaliate

Bunker Buster bomb.

As noted before taking him out would likely paralyze his military.

[RandomGuy]

Probably ought to be some commas or something in there.

Let's eat grandma!

[hater]

Maybe the US could take him out with a drone strike or something from a satellite and his people would be happy rather than retaliate

Or they could empty their silos into South Korea

Similarly this would happen if Putin is taken out with a drone

[monosylab1k]

Maybe the US could take him out with a drone strike or something from a satellite and his people would be happy rather than retaliate

iirc Reddit even pinpointed Kim Jong Un's location once because it was the only account in NK logged into Steam playing video games :lol

[Quadzilla99]

iirc Reddit even pinpointed Kim Jong Un's location once because it was the only account in NK logged into Steam playing video games :lol
Lol

[baseline bum]

iirc Reddit even pinpointed Kim Jong Un's location once because it was the only account in NK logged into Steam playing video games :lol

:lmao

[boutons_deux]

Shep Smith: Trump Didn't Modernize Nuclear Program, Obama Did (http://crooksandliars.com/2017/08/shep-smith-trump-didnt-modernize-nuclear)

Smith said, "My first order as President was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal. It is now far more stronger and more powerful. Hopefully we never have to use the power but there will never be a time when we're not the most powerful nation in the world."

Then he delivered a truth bomb.

Smith continued,

"It was actually former President Obama who took steps to modernize the U.S. nuclear arsenal before President Trump took office."

"It was a $1 trillion project over 30 years,

but President Trump's first defense budget actually made cuts to missile defense,

despite protests from Republican lawmakers," he said.

Here we go again. Trump's glomming on to something President Obama did and then trying to take credit for it.

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/08/shep-smith-trump-didnt-modernize-nuclear?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=im

[Quadzilla99]

How does Shepard Smith even keep his job lol. Fox News viewers must hate his ass

[boutons_deux]

How does Shepard Smith even keep his job lol. Fox News viewers must hate his ass

agreed. He seems to be trying real hard to get fired, even going back to his report on the bridge after Katrina.

[RandomGuy]

Good intel from a very credible Company That Pays Attention to Such Things for any who are interested in informing themselves.

https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/how-north-korea-would-retaliate


Regardless of these considerations and constraints on the North Korean side, if Pyongyang embraces the worst-case scenario for Seoul — the indiscriminate targeting of the capital and its suburbs — the damage would still be significant. Some research claims that overall damage and casualties in Seoul would be minimal, but those studies have relied on very conservative data, especially regarding the effective range of North Korean artillery systems. Many findings do not take into account newly deployed, modernized 122-mm multiple launch rocket systems with extended range, or the much more capable 300-mm multiple rocket launchers. If projectile flight distances reach proven ranges (or commonly accepted ones) and involve these new systems, then the northern portion of Seoul could be saturated with fire. Even areas south of the Han River could be within range of 170-mm self-propelled guns, 240-mm multiple rocket launchers or 300-mm multiple rocket launchers, depending on their position on the North Korean side of the DMZ. If every one of Pyongyang's 300-mm multiple rocket launcher systems were directed against Seoul, their range would be sufficient to rain fire across the city and beyond. A single volley could deliver more than 350 metric tons of explosives across the South Korean capital, roughly the same amount of ordnance dropped by 11 B-52 bombers.

The previous passages detail the very severe shortcomings of NK artillery, but they have a LOT of tubes. Even shitty artillery, fired slowly, with a lot of duds, would drop enough to kill a lot of people, if they chose to do so, which, in the case of a war, would be certain.

[RandomGuy]

iirc Reddit even pinpointed Kim Jong Un's location once because it was the only account in NK logged into Steam playing video games :lol

Wowsers. You can bet that NSA paid attention to that. (I would think/hope)

[RandomGuy]

How does Shepard Smith even keep his job lol. Fox News viewers must hate his ass

Because Fox "news" needs him to keep some modicum of respectability.

This is especially true after they had to shit-can O-Really

[boutons_deux]

A TEXAS fucking grifter pastor, just as nutty and grift-y as any of them, totally detached from objective reality, like their Bible-humping literalism dictates

Trump’s top evangelical ally: God supports bombing North Korea

Pastor Robert Jeffress says the Bible gives the government “the authority to do whatever.”

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0TxOJ2l4addI03zy_NyOZ2WntiY=/0x0:4000x2645/1220x813/filters:focal(1680x1003:2320x1643):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56123743/805456906.0.jpg


pastor Robert Jeffress praised Trump’s aggressive statement as a function of divine will.

"When it comes to how we should deal with evil doers, the Bible, in the book of Romans, is very clear:

God has endowed rulers full power to use whatever means necessary — including war — to stop evil.

In the case of North Korea, God has given Trump authority to take out Kim Jong-Un.”

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/8/9/16118628/robert-jeffress-trump-god-supports-bombing-north-korea

goddamn, you TX Christian Bible-humpers and ignorant suckers for grifter pastors are fucking stupid

I suppose Jeffres has grifted himself into multi-millions net worth

[boutons_deux]

Obama’s Former CIA Chief Just Gave Trump The Perfect Label For His Bungling Of Korea Crisis

“We are the ones stirring the pot right now in northeast Asia,” warns Hayden.

“The North Korean (nuclear) program has been on its predictable arc.

What’s new is our response:

rhetorically tougher language, even beyond what the President said Tuesday;

naval deployments in the waters off the peninsula;

nuclear capable B-1’s flying from Guam in full view of North Korean radars and seriously threatening,

punishing secondary sanctions against Chinese banks and industries.”

“It’s never a good thing for the president of the United States,” warned Hayden, “to sound like ‘Baghdad Bob.” :lol

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/09/obamas-former-cia-chief-just-gave-trump-perfect-label-bungling-korea-crisis/ (http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/09/obamas-former-cia-chief-just-gave-trump-perfect-label-bungling-korea-crisis/)

[clambake]

baghdad bob lol

[boutons_deux]

Clinton’s Defense Secretary Just Blasted Trump For Falling Into North Korea’s Trap

“It’s always better, if you see an enemy that remains silent, that’s more frightening than someone who is beating his chest or engaging in schoolyard banter or locker room language,” Cohen told host Joe Scarborough.



“That language is not going to intimidate the North Koreans. To me, it’s always better when you see an enemy to remain silent,”

Cohen continued.

“That’s more frightening than someone who is beating his chest or engaging in schoolyard banter or locker room language.”

Silence from the President would have been more effective, he maintained, “and then let the diplomats like Secretary [of State Rex] Tillerson, let the others who are trying to bring about a peaceful solution to this have the authority to do so,”

“Simply issuing threats —

which the North Koreans are not going to take as serious,

because they know intuitively, I think, that

the United States is not going to launch a preemptive attack,

putting at risk hundreds of thousands,

if not millions of South Koreans, and Japanese, and others,”

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/09/clintons-defense-secretary-just-blasted-trump-falling-north-koreas-trap/

[boutons_deux]

“I think he’s made a decision long ago, quite frankly, to try to negotiate the threat with North Korea,” Graham said.

“But if negotiations fail, he is willing to abandon strategic patience and use pre-emption.

I think he’s there mentally.

He has told me this.

“They’re going to unleash all of their weapons against South Korea and Japan,” he continued.

“I would not fire one missile or drop one bomb against North Korea unless we were ready to finish the job.”

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/10/lindsey-graham-just-revealed-chilling-details-private-north-korea-talk-trump/

[SnakeBoy]

Maybe the US could take him out with a drone strike or something from a satellite and his people would be happy rather than retaliate

That would be difficult to pull off. Maybe the CIA could recruit a couple of tabloid journalists to assassinate him during an interview.

[boutons_deux]

Where is Jared when Trash really need him to fix this problem?

[ducks]

“I think he’s made a decision long ago, quite frankly, to try to negotiate the threat with North Korea,” Graham said.

“But if negotiations fail, he is willing to abandon strategic patience and use pre-emption.

I think he’s there mentally.

He has told me this.

“They’re going to unleash all of their weapons against South Korea and Japan,” he continued.

“I would not fire one missile or drop one bomb against North Korea unless we were ready to finish the job.”

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/10/lindsey-graham-just-revealed-chilling-details-private-north-korea-talk-trump/






he will finish the job unlike other presidents including the replublicans

[clambake]

he will finish the job unlike other presidents including the replublicans

how will he finish the job, ducks?

[ducks]

Guam Gov: 'Hell and Fury' Justified If NK Attacks

[clambake]

Guam Gov: 'Hell and Fury' Justified If NK Attacks

duh

[clambake]

how will he finish the job, ducks?

[ducks]

what he sees fit and the generals
made a point not to start something he will not finish

[clambake]

bless your little heart.

[Quadzilla99]

bless your little heart.
Ducks literally just said he will finish it by finishing it

[clambake]

Ducks literally just said he will finish it by finishing it

he's got some anxiety.

[ducks]

US Allies Warn NKorea Against Firing Missiles at Guam

[ducks]

NBC News: Intel Agencies Say That NKorea Has Mini Nukes

[SpursforSix]

Bunker Buster bomb.

As noted before taking him out would likely paralyze his military.

Honestly, I don't know why they don't just wait until they have a military parade where Kim is present and bomb the shit out of it.

[ducks]

USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

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USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA

[florige]

Honestly, I don't know why they don't just wait until they have a military parade where Kim is present and bomb the shit out of it.



I don't understand why we can't send James Bond type of hit man over there to take out Kim. There is no need for war when the little fat guy over there is the main problem.

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I don't understand why we can't send James Bond type of hit man over there to take out Kim. There is no need for war when the little fat guy over there is the main problem.

Because this isn't fucking TV, flo. Grow the fuck up.

[boutons_deux]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DG5gMbeW0AARlIR.jpg

https://twitter.com/SPIEGELDAILY/status/895759334323499013

but Trash carries a "small stick"

[florige]

Because this isn't fucking TV, flo. Grow the fuck up.


Why not? Trump is treating this like a reality TV show and he is the President.

[florige]

Because this isn't fucking TV, flo. Grow the fuck up.

I obviously was joking calm down.

[Thread]

I obviously was joking calm down.

Me too, flo.

[boutons_deux]

Seth Meyers takes A Closer Look

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nU4kfVZMAY

[boutons_deux]

"Why did it start this week?

The reason it appears to have started this week is because of this article from The Washington Post from Tuesday.

That article described a confidential assessment by one U.S. intelligence agency, which reportedly concluded that North Korea had miniaturized a nuclear device and could now fit one onto a missile.

That Washington Post report came out on Tuesday.

Since then, the president has been making these incredibly over-the-top, bellicose, alliterative, overt threats against North Korea.

… These last three days of, literally, nuclear brinksmanship, as far as we can tell, the proximate cause of this – what set it all off – was one newspaper report of a single agency’s reported conclusion,

which has not been bolstered by other sources, that doesn’t reflect any sort of formal, stated view of the intelligence community.

As Maddow also pointed out later in the segment, the same finding that Trump is freaking out about this week was reported

back in 2013 by the same agency – and they got it wrong then.“

The Obama administration didn’t take it and run with it,” Maddow said.

“This time, the ratio between the size of that catalyst and the size of the administration’s response is a very, very, very, very, very large ratio.”

The difference between then and now, of course, is that the United States is currently run by an erratic, reckless man

who loses his cool over just about everything, from public opinion polls to critical news coverage."

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/10/rachel-maddow-pinpoints-stunning-reason-trump-pushing-america-nuclear-war.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

I'm sure Trash saw an opportunity, a pretext to blow up the Korea angle to deflect from the multiple nooses tightening around Trash and his posse of Pootin fellators.

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"Why did it start this week?

The reason it appears to have started this week is because of this article from The Washington Post from Tuesday.

That article described a confidential assessment by one U.S. intelligence agency, which reportedly concluded that North Korea had miniaturized a nuclear device and could now fit one onto a missile.

That Washington Post report came out on Tuesday.

Since then, the president has been making these incredibly over-the-top, bellicose, alliterative, overt threats against North Korea.

… These last three days of, literally, nuclear brinksmanship, as far as we can tell, the proximate cause of this – what set it all off – was one newspaper report of a single agency’s reported conclusion,

which has not been bolstered by other sources, that doesn’t reflect any sort of formal, stated view of the intelligence community.

As Maddow also pointed out later in the segment, the same finding that Trump is freaking out about this week was reported

back in 2013 by the same agency – and they got it wrong then.“

The Obama administration didn’t take it and run with it,” Maddow said.

“This time, the ratio between the size of that catalyst and the size of the administration’s response is a very, very, very, very, very large ratio.”

The difference between then and now, of course, is that the United States is currently run by an erratic, reckless man

who loses his cool over just about everything, from public opinion polls to critical news coverage."

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/10/rachel-maddow-pinpoints-stunning-reason-trump-pushing-america-nuclear-war.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

I'm sure Trash saw an opportunity, a pretext to blow up the Korea angle to deflect from the multiple nooses tightening around Trash and his posse of Pootin fellators.




The kicker? North didn't have a single nuke on Monday. Less than 24 hours later they were inundated with nukes. They had 'em comin' out their asses. Everywhere they looked there was a nuke.

I ain't ever seen anything like it.

[SpursforSix]

Because this isn't fucking TV, flo. Grow the fuck up.

X2

[Pavlov]

The kicker? North didn't have a single nuke on Monday. Less than 24 hours later they were inundated with nukes. They had 'em comin' out their asses. Everywhere they looked there was a nuke.

I ain't ever seen anything like it.Actually the same thing happened during the Obama administration. Only difference back then was the commander in chief didn't have a meltdown as soon as he saw it in the Post.

[ducks]

Actually the same thing happened during the Obama administration. Only difference back then was the commander in chief didn't have a meltdown as soon as he saw it in the Post.

The former would throw money at them

[Pavlov]

The former would throw money at themExcept he didn't.

[ducks]

Clinton did
Former did to iran

[Pavlov]

Clinton didAs did Bush. Give it time, Trump or whoever replaces him will too.

Former did to iranThat was their money.

Normally I would say nothing is going to happen on any of these fronts as usual, but now we have a true idiot as President.

[ducks]

He has paid more taxes created more jobs
Paid more money to people then you

[Pavlov]

He has paid more taxes created more jobs
Paid more money to people then youHe's also ripped way more people off than I have. Declared bankruptcy more than I have. Made more stupid public statements than I have. Knelt to Putin more than I have.

[ducks]

He never broke laws with his bankruptcy

[ducks]

You make several stupid statements on public Internet forum

[ducks]

Never bowed to Putin
Russia wanted Clinton to win
DNC hack was inside job not Russia

[Pavlov]

He never broke laws with his bankruptcyIt's bankruptcy.


You make several stupid statements on public Internet forumNot the same.


Never bowed to PutinJust bowed today to thank him for expelling Americans from Russia.


Russia wanted Clinton to winThey tought Clinton would win and thought their actions would weaken her.


DNC hack was inside job not RussiaThen Trump should stop bowing to Putin.

[hater]

Lol China just said they will stay neutral as long as US doesnt strike NK first

There goes your pre emptive strike plans :lmao

[hater]

Lindsey Graham :lol trying to start WW3

Faggot

[pgardn]

Lol China just said they will stay neutral as long as US doesnt strike NK first

There goes your pre emptive strike plans :lmao

They are not neutral.

And they won't do anything. If NK test fires a test missile that lands close to Guam, and the US takes out something in NK, China will do nothing.

Emoticon on its side laughing.
You would be lost without this little guy.

[RandomGuy]

US Allies Warn NKorea Against Firing Missiles at Guam

I would like you to explain Trumps newest remarks.

Or answer the question:

Are Trumps statements on the forced reduction of Embassy staff in Moscow consistent with my theory?




But then, predicting what Trump will, or won't do is sort of a mugs game. He never fails to do the stupidest shit possible, just when you think he can't be dumber.

The thing about a good theory though, it that it both explains facts, and you can make testable predictions.

Fact 1:
Russia attempted to hack our electoral process through a multi-pronged attack.

Fact 2:
Donald "look how big my inauguration crowd was" Trump has done nothing but deny this even happened. He has shown no willingness whatsoever to hold Russia to account for anything.

Fact 3:
Donald Trump has a pattern of criticizing anyone, and everyone at the drop of a hat. Allies, enemies, courts, free press, nothing has escaped his remarks and twitter feed, except for ONE/(two) thing(s), and that is Russia/Putin

Fact 4:
Russian efforts appeared designed to support Trump

Fact 5:
Trump directly called on Russia publicly to support his efforts to get elected.

Fact 6:
Donald Trump has gone out of his way to meet and talk with Putin privately in person, with no American witnesses. This is the only leader with which he has acted in this manner.

Theory:
Donald Trump has been compromised in some way.

Either he directly owes them money, or they have evidence of some kind of him breaking the law or doing something he does not want others to know about. This theory explains those facts, and is fully consistent with observed reality.

Prediction:
Donald Trump will take no action personally, nor will he criticize Russia or Putin in any way in regards to the Russian attack on our elections. He may allow his underlings to do some minor, inconsequential stuff, and if forced to do anything by Congress will drag his feet, if not outright attempt to veto any sanctions.


The way to falsify the theory:
1) Trump criticizes Putin/Russia (good)
2) Trump orders/takes action that materially harms Russian interests (definitive)

Bullshit conspiracy theories fail very often because either: they cannot be falsified, or they directly conflict with observed reality. This theory can be falsified, and does not conflict with what we know as fact.

Donald Trump is unpredictable except for Russia.

He may be stupid enough to fire Mueller if Mueller starts asking questions that will expose how he has been compromised.

If he does so, he will be impeached. The Republican party will have almost no choice at that point. Congress will find their spine, because they want to be re-elected, and Trump will have gone too far for all but the most jaded hacks.

"Trump warns of 'dangerous low' in Russia relations"
See Fact #3
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/08/03/politics/russia-us-trump-putin-sanctions/

This statement is consistent with the theory and was predicted by it.
---------------------------------------

The veto-proof sanctions bill on Russia from Congress forced him to do something. His signing statement says that his administration will ignore or attempt to bypass as much as possible.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/text-of-statement-trump-made-while-signing-russian-sanctions-bill-2017-08-02

This action is consistent with the theory, and predicted by it.
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Trumps newest Russian statements go out of their way to be obsequious and servile.



“As far as I'm concerned I'm very thankful that he let go of a large number of people because now we have a smaller payroll,” Trump said at a briefing at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey on Thursday.

"We'll save a lot of money," he added.

:wow

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[hater]

President Trump not Clintler

[TeyshaBlue]

Trumps newest Russian statements go out of their way to be obsequious and servile.


Originally Posted by President Golfy McVroom Vroom
“As far as I'm concerned I'm very thankful that he let go of a large number of people because now we have a smaller payroll,” Trump said at a briefing at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey on Thursday.

"We'll save a lot of money," he added.


He can't speak in blue type. Sorry.

[Fabbs]

^^ except they are still on the payroll.
Apparently now being paid to jack off in the U.S.

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^^ except they are still on the payroll.
Apparently now being paid to jack off in the U.S.

At least we ain't payin' per diem and you can watch them jackin' off instead of you just imagining it.

[SpursforSix]

At least we ain't payin' per diem and you can watch them jackin' off instead of you just imagining it.

Aye...and ye can't just dismiss them like an old Jammy Dodger.

[Thread]

Aye...and ye can't just dismiss them like an old Jammy Dodger.

They're sore because they ain't [special] anymore and can't brag to the people back home about their great gig in the USSR. "Oh, it's hard work, yes, aunt Cecil, but, I have some extra time each day and I do some sight seeing. I also get to attach like a bunch of monetary strings to my paycheck. I keep great records so everything is above board, but, frankly, I'm hittin' this six ways to Sunday. I will close for now, before bed if I stand by the front gate for 3 minutes I get $10. God bless you and uncle Mary."

- Carol

P.S., I'm getting my cock split on Wednesday AM and I'll be Carol on Wednesday PM.

[boutons_deux]

Trash "locked and loaded" this morning to continue his deflection from Mueller's tightening noose(s) to a fake crisis against a non-Christian, non-white people with full support of white male blood thirsty grifter so-called "Christian" pastors

[RandomGuy]

Trumps newest Russian statements go out of their way to be obsequious and servile.


Originally Posted by President Golfy McVroom Vroom
“As far as I'm concerned I'm very thankful that he let go of a large number of people because now we have a smaller payroll,” Trump said at a briefing at his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey on Thursday.

"We'll save a lot of money," he added.


He can't speak in blue type. Sorry.

He can't suck Putin's dick from a distance either, but his words can.

Listen to the tape.

See how much sarcasm you detect. Then find other times Trump has been sarcastic. It isn't his thing.

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He can't suck Putin's dick from a distance either, but his words can.

Listen to the tape.

See how much sarcasm you detect. Then find other times Trump has been sarcastic. It isn't his thing.

RG, pouring over Trump's shit.

(Diplomats)---lmao. Let these fucks get a job. Humps. Some Latino was on CNN last nite and likened the loss of these jobs in Russia and Trump joking about it to joking about the Holocaust. Yeah, with a straight face.

[Pavlov]

RG, pouring over Trump's shit.

(Diplomats)---lmao. Let these fucks get a job. Humps. Some Latino was on CNN last nite and likened the loss of these jobs in Russia and Trump joking about it to joking about the Holocaust. Yeah, with a straight face.These people didn't lose their jobs. The only people who will actually lose jobs are Russians.

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These people didn't lose their jobs. The only people who will actually lose jobs are Russians.

Ipso facto,,,no harm.

[Pavlov]

Ipso facto,,,no harm.Oh there's harm, but nothing to do with the US money Putin needs to stay in power.

Simple fact it Trump is decidedly weak when it comes to Russia and Putin. Why is that?

[Thread]

Oh there's harm, but nothing to do with the US money Putin needs to stay in power.

Simple fact it Trump is decidedly weak when it comes to Russia and Putin. Why is that?

Just to bust "your" balls---& get ya snortin'.

[Pavlov]

Just to bust "your" balls---& get ya snortin'.He doesn't know me at all. Why is he so weak when it comes to Russia and Putin?

[Thread]

He doesn't know me at all. Why is he so weak when it comes to Russia and Putin?

Same answer:::He's trollin' ya's. Got's ya's chasin' your tails. Runnin' ya's in circle. Ridin' ya's hard---puttin' ya's up soakin' wet.

[Pavlov]

Same answer:::He's trollin' ya's. Got's ya's chasin' your tails. Runnin' ya's in circle. Ridin' ya's hard---puttin' ya's up soakin' wet.Nope, he doesn't know me at all so he's not doing it for me at all. If you want a weak President when it comes to Russia, I guess that's your choice but it makes no sense.

[hater]

:lmao genius comments by the POTUS

TRIGERED A WHOLE BUNCH OF LIBERAL AND NEACCUNT CRYbabies :lmao

[Thread]

Nope, he doesn't know me at all so he's not doing it for me at all. If you want a weak President when it comes to Russia, I guess that's your choice but it makes no sense.

Don't be so fucking literal. I meant "you"---ain't you got a lick of common sense?

[Thread]

Nope, he doesn't know me at all so he's not doing it for me at all. If you want a weak President when it comes to Russia, I guess that's your choice but it makes no sense.

Yes, that's exactly what I wanted, but, "you" cut Trump off at the pass. You weren't about to let Trump team with Putin/Russia and do great things. Why? Because Zero/Clinton weren't able to do it. So gd afraid something of merit would come from it. Can't have that.

[Thread]

Just heard on CNN:::"It's not that easy to shoot down incoming missiles." Christ, all these decades that all we heard that it was mandatory that we spend money on these systems because they were 100% effective. Had to have him. Had to raise taxes to get 'em. Wasn't even up to debate. Just signed it, taxed us and built the things. 50 years later---today:::they ain't worth dog shit.

Fuck me.

New advice:::"Whatever you do, don't look at the bright light, and until then have a wonderful weekend, hit the beaches. You know Amity means friends. So, we caught a rather medium sized predator on the other side of the cove where Ted Kennedy ran his car off that bridge. But, the beaches are open. You say 'nuclear' everybody is 'huh? what?" You say 'Putin' and it's panic all over the joint."

[Leetonidas]

Dale aint gona be laughing when the Lakers get nuked tbh

[Thread]

Dale aint gona be laughing when the Lakers get nuked tbh

Stern already nuked us with that CBA. We ain't seen straight since.

[boutons_deux]

dickless white male gun-sicko terrorism

An NRA Spokesman Just Called For North Korea To Attack A Major Liberal American City

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/602538015030837248/M6GzETP9_normal.jpgGrant Stinchfield (https://twitter.com/stinchfield1776)
(https://twitter.com/stinchfield1776)✔@stinchfield1776 (https://twitter.com/stinchfield1776)

Let's send a note to North Korea that Sacramento changed its name to Guam!
11:21 PM - Aug 10, 2017 (https://twitter.com/stinchfield1776/status/895862619285970944)

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/11/nra-spokesman-just-called-north-korea-attack-major-liberal-american-city/

[boutons_deux]

Frau Angela Merkel, leader of Europe, bitch slaps the dickless orange fraud bully

Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany spoke out against the petulant pampered plutocrats in a statement earlier today, providing a much-needed voice of reason.




“I believe that, am firmly convinced that an escalation of rhetoric will not contribute to a solution of this conflict.

I do not see a military solution to this conflict, rather I see continuous work, like we have seen in the U.N. Security Council with members with resolutions in view of North Korea, and above all very close cooperation with affected countries,

especially the United States and China, but also South Korea, of course Japan.

Germany will be intensively involved with potential solutions that we see, not of a military manner.

But the escalation of rhetoric I hold as the wrong answer.”


http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/08/11/trump-just-bragged-military-solutions-north-korea-angela-merkels-response-classy/

[Pavlov]

:lmao genius comments by the POTUS

TRIGERED A WHOLE BUNCH OF LIBERAL AND NEACCUNT CRYbabies :lmao:lmao Genius moving bowing and worshiping Putin! :lmao

[TeyshaBlue]

He can't suck Putin's dick from a distance either, but his words can.

Listen to the tape.

See how much sarcasm you detect. Then find other times Trump has been sarcastic. It isn't his thing.

Havent actually heard the quote. Just some commentary from NPR stating it was an obvious joke.

[TSA]

Havent actually heard the quote. Just some commentary from NPR stating it was an obvious joke.

but muh testable theory!

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s North Korea Statements A Boon To His Base

Trump’s base wants him to be decisive, she said, whether or not they agree with him.

“A sizable number of people prefer leaders whom they see as decisive, and prefer displayed strength and certainty, even more than agreeing with the substance of their positions,” Fitzduff said.

“What they do not like is people who they see as compromisers,

or not knowing their own mind, or

even consulting/discussing with others what they should do, or

indeed changing their mind re red lines,

no matter how sensible that might appear at times to be.

Strange as this may seem, research has shown that many people prefer ‘strong and wrong’ leaders to ‘weak and right’ leaders.

Trump’s base views him not just as a moral leader, but as an embodiment of the nation.

“Trump constantly lives by the metaphor that the president is the nation,”

Trump’s supporters think like he does—they support strict fathers who take care of business, are strict disciplinarians and embrace the use of force as necessary.

“You can only understand what your brain allows you to understand,” he said. “If that’s what’s in the circuit in your brain, that’s all you can understand.”

Trump’s psychological allure suggests his base will embrace his belligerence rather than abhor it.

Mari Fitzduff also said that many Americans actually welcome wars.

“Yes. ​Unfortunately many of us love wars—think about how glued we were to our TV’s when the U.S. invaded Iraq,” she said. “

This is particularly so when we believe we can win, and especially when we think it is only people ‘over there’—as has been suggested by [South Carolina Sen.] Lindsey Graham—who will suffer, not us.

‘If thousands die, they are going to die there, they’re not going to die here.’”

“Very few Trump supporters, or indeed most of us, understand the result of using nuclear as opposed to more traditional forces, and how different a war it will be.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/trump-north-korea-statements-base/

goddamn, you Trash fellators are stupid fucks, and easy marks for demagogues, autocrats, "strong man", oligarchy lies, grifter pastors.

All y'all FUCK UP AMERICA

[ducks]

Who says article right?

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuLhCB3yq6k

[ducks]

looks like trump talk worked

[Pavlov]

looks like trump talk workedSo your bar for Trump success is now "Well, there was no nuclear Armageddon today."

We're just going to go back to giving the DPRK fuel oil and food. The only question is how much further Trump decides to elevate Kim on the world stage.

[boutons_deux]

China implements UN sanctions against North Korea, as Trump trade probe looms

In an unprecedented move against North Korea,

China on Monday issued an order to carry out the United Nations sanctions imposed on the rogue regime earlier this month.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/08/14/china-implements-un-sanctions-against-north-korea-as-trump-trade-probe-looms.html

[SnakeBoy]

So your bar for Trump success is now "Well, there was no nuclear Armageddon today."


No, we kind of need Kim to launch a nuke now.

[hater]

Kim Kong took Trump to the cleaners tbqh

Hes in another league. Well it helps his ppl believe he is a living God.

[Thread]

Kim Kong took Trump to the cleaners tbqh

Hes in another league. Well it helps his ppl believe he is a living God.

Please. The Big Shot slope said he was going to fire off a missile close to Guam on the 15th. Today's the 16th.

No more big shot.

[hater]

South Korean president just promised on public speech there will not be a war in korea ever again

Said they and he will oppose any military intervention at all costs

:lmao warmonger yankees

All dressed up and nowhere to go