Why do people claim that taking down Confederate statues is erasing history?

[rascal]

Most cases? In which cases was it not the catalyst? Give us a list.

Looks like he is starting to sway but not wanting to totally give in just yet.

[DMC]

does that have to be the objective?

For BLM? Sure. The statue removal isn't doing shit for blacks being killed by cops. They can take all the statues of civil war faggots, couldn't care less. Don't pretend it's a step in the right direction as far as civil rights and BLM matter.

[ChumpDumper]

For BLM? Sure. The statue removal isn't doing shit for blacks being killed by cops. They can take all the statues of civil war faggots, couldn't care less. Don't pretend it's a step in the right direction as far as civil rights and BLM matter.Are you in favor of the removal of confederate statues or not?

[FrostKing]

Are you in favor of the removal of confederate statues or not?
Sure. Whatever statue they put up as the replacement will be torn down eventually too

[baseline bum]

For BLM? Sure. The statue removal isn't doing shit for blacks being killed by cops.

Disagree, those statues are there to intimidate black people and are signs to white people it's ok to do so.

[DMC]

Disagree, those statues are there to intimidate black people and are signs to white people it's ok to do so.

But removing them doesn't change the feeling those people have. I don't disagree with you though.

[boutons_deux]

But removing them doesn't change the feeling those people have. I don't disagree with you though.

The statues are GOVT PROPERTY reminding the blacks and whites of their roles

[DMC]

I said back then that losing shouldn't result a statue. Do you see a statue of Kevin Love or Kevin Garnett in Minnesota? Do the big 3 of OKC have a statue? No.

[Spurminator]

Territorial pissings. Clean them up.

[spurraider21]

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[KobesAchilles]

I mean the statues aren’t even that old. Lee himself didn’t want any statues and they’re not really history. I mean my grandparents house is older than these statues. West side

[DMC]

The Confederate flag... :lol

No more Dukes of Hazzard.

[FrostKing]

Eventually the American flag will be replaced too. Along with Washington monument

[David Hogg]

https://i.ibb.co/7QcDtKT/85-D7061-F-E4-A7-4-D73-9643-F51-BF8-D00-A18.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

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They're not wrong.

[RandomGuy]

For BLM? Sure. The statue removal isn't doing shit for blacks being killed by cops.

How have you excluded the possibility that :

having statues dedicated to people who actively participated in chattel trade and torture contributes to racists of all stripes feeling more justified in their overall beliefs that some humans are worth less than others because of melanin?

[RandomGuy]

1271467300651241472
They're not wrong.

As someone with an ancestor who died fighting those traitorous fucks it galled me deeply to be stationed at a base named after one of the traitor generals.

[ChumpDumper]

As someone with an ancestor who died fighting those traitorous fucks it galled me deeply to be stationed at a base named after one of the traitor generals.And some of the worst/most notorious traitors out there. I mean George fucking Pickett? If he wasn't known for losing half his men in the stupidest attack of the war he'd be known for executing southerners who joined the Union army. Just drop the fetish of naming things after people.

[ChumpDumper]

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[DMC]

How have you excluded the possibility that :

having statues dedicated to people who actively participated in chattel trade and torture contributes to racists of all stripes feeling more justified in their overall beliefs that some humans are worth less than others because of melanin?

Slippery slope argument

[DMC]

As someone with an ancestor who died fighting those traitorous fucks it galled me deeply to be stationed at a base named after one of the traitor generals.

You volunteered.

[boutons_deux]

Trump Hates Losers, So Why Is He Refighting the Civil War—on the Losing Side?

A Gallup Poll, released (https://news.gallup.com/poll/312572/trump-job-approval-slides.aspx) on Wednesday, found that Trump’s approval rating had plunged ten points in a single month.

President tumbling back to his “bedrock,” as Cook put it:

a political base of somewhere between thirty-five and forty per cent of Americans who seem

willing to back Trump no matter what.

If the President stays on this course, he will lose. :lol he will stay the Trash course, and LOSE

“It isn’t over yet,” Fauci said, and, indeed, in twenty-one states, from Arizona to Oregon, cases are still rising.

On Wednesday, the Trump-appointed chairman of the Federal Reserve, Jerome Powell, warned that

high unemployment and economic fallout stemming from pandemic shutdowns would persist for years to come.

“This is the biggest economic shock, in the U.S. and the world, really, in living memory,”

From ordering in the military to bludgeoning the media, Trump has certainly been doing a pretty good impersonation of a hack dictator.

Trump, being Trump, has tried to tweet his way through the interlocking crises. It has not worked.

there was the President,

who chose to spend the week refighting the Civil War—

on the losing side.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/letter-from-trumps-washington/trump-hates-losers-so-why-is-he-refighting-the-civil-war-on-the-losing-side

[Spurminator]

Erasing history is when you lose a war and spend 100 years erecting statues and naming schools and military bases as though you won.

[RandomGuy]

Slippery slope argument

I merely identified that your dumb ass had a take.

Now you are all butthurt about me identifying a flaw in your own reasoning so you have to soothe your fee fees by lying about fallacies. Feel free to put what I said into the slippery slope format to prove you aren't lying. :lol

Syllogism or bullshit. Your call.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Why was this thing ever in Kentucky in the first place?

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Racism. That's why.

[Will Hunting]

:lol Why was this thing ever in Kentucky in the first place?

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Racism. That's why.
People in Gettysburg Pennsylvania drive around with confederate flag bumper stickers and don’t see the irony, this has never been about muh southern heritage.

[ChumpDumper]

He was born in KY and he already has a state park with a Washington Monument ripoff at the birthplace. A lot of public money to honor a guy who tried to escape US troops wearing his wife's clothes.

[Winehole23]

Erasing history is when you lose a war and spend 100 years erecting statues and naming schools and military bases as though you won.The South won the peace. Hopefully the iconoclastic riot the public has favored us with will continue for a spell. The Second Reconstruction didn't take, but the Third one might.

[David Hogg]

https://twitter.com/cedbreeze/status/1271782777319374851?s=21

[ChumpDumper]

1304793484482818048

https://media1.tenor.com/images/b8588d63684a090f3fc7ebc25c9fba04/tenor.gif

[Winehole23]

:clap

Col. Robt. E Lee's statue removed from the US Capitol.

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[boutons_deux]

San Antonio high school Robert E LEE

is now

Legacy of Educational Excellence (LEE) High School

[baseline bum]

:clap

Col. Robt. E Lee's statue removed from the US Capitol.

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fify

[Winehole23]

Worth a repost.

Col. Robt. Lee was an asshole of the 1st rank.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/06/the-myth-of-the-kindly-general-lee/529038/

[Winehole23]

2020 was a banner year for the removal of participation trophies for shitstain traitors to the USA


In 2020 their descendants competed to see who could remove the most Confederate monuments following the police killing of George Floyd earlier this year. Virginia finished the year having removed twenty-five with North Carolina coming in at a respectable second with nineteen. Overall, close to ninety Confederate monuments have been removed (http://cwmemory.com/recent-confederate-monument-removals/) across the country this year.

Here is the breakdown:



VA: 25
NC: 21
FL: 7
AL: 5
GA: 5
AR: 4
TX: 4
MD: 3
MO: 2
DC: 2
AZ: 2
KY: 2
IN: 1
LA: 1
MS: 1
OK: 1
PA: 1
WA: 1
WV: 1



Virginia will likely remain the state to watch out for given the pending lawsuit in Richmond over the Robert E. Lee memorial. Charlottesville is another city to keep an eye on this year. Movement in either city will likely lead to another concerted push to remove monuments in other states. This is far from over.



http://cwmemory.com/2021/01/02/breakdown-of-confederate-monument-removals-in-2020/

[Winehole23]

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[ChumpDumper]

1357638423595655168
:lmao that fucking typo

[RandomGuy]

:lmao that fucking typo

???

[ChumpDumper]

"IT'S TRADITIONS"

:lol rubes

[Winehole23]

:coffee

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[ChumpDumper]

Why do Republicans want to save Democrat traitor statues?
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[baseline bum]

Why do Republicans want to save Democrat traitor statues?
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Party of Lincoln wanting to honor Party of Lee :lol

[Joseph Kony]

GOP when the topic is the history of slavery or racial injustice: "move on! get over it! that's ancient history!"

GOP when the topic is removing traitorous confederate statues: "you can't erase history! we need to preserve our history! we must always remember!"

[Winehole23]

the bust was installed in 1978

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[ChumpDumper]

But how will kids learn about the KKK?
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[Winehole23]

But how will kids learn about the KKK?
1418558930834366464Texas apparently prefers that educators skip Jim Crow and racist KKK terrorism. Texas's proposed anti-CRT law would remove both from social studies standards.

[ChumpDumper]

Texas apparently prefers that educators skip Jim Crow and racist KKK terrorism. Texas's proposed anti-CRT law would remove both from social studies standards.Well, they can learn about the KKK as along as the teachers don't say the KKK was morally wrong.

[koriwhat]

the bust was installed in 1978

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Democrat Commies trying to erase THEIR HISTORY so the normies don't know the ugly truth.

[koriwhat]

Texas apparently prefers that educators skip Jim Crow and racist KKK terrorism. Texas's proposed anti-CRT law would remove both from social studies standards.

So don't teach the history of the Democratic Party?

[Winehole23]

Well, they can learn about the KKK as along as the teachers don't say the KKK was morally wrong."depoliticizing the classroom" has changed little since the 1920s.

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[Winehole23]

Well, they can learn about the KKK as along as the teachers don't say the KKK was morally wrong.I think teachers are allowed to say bad things about the KKK if they also emphasize the good things.

"Both sides"

[koriwhat]

I think teachers are allowed to say bad things about the KKK if they also emphasize the good things.

"Both sides"

There's only one side when it pertains to the KKK and that's the Democratic Party. Your political ideology!

[Winehole23]

koriwhat (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=10674)
LMAO

This message is hidden because koriwhat is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).

[ElNono]

But how will kids learn about the KKK?
1418558930834366464


Another victim of the far left cult!

[Winehole23]

People in Gettysburg Pennsylvania drive around with confederate flag bumper stickers and don’t see the irony, this has never been about muh southern heritage."Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, and Alabama in between."

[Winehole23]

good riddance to smelly garbage


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[Thread]

good riddance to smelly garbage


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Bitter loss. And all because of that cocksucker Floyd.

[Winehole23]

public comment period for renaming US military bases currently named after Confederates

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[Thread]

public comment period for renaming US military bases currently named after Confederates

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Christ-a-mighty, Floyd will get one. Those two ying yangs that shot up the country side thru the trunk lid then went back to the motel for hot sex will get one.
BLM will get a shit load of 'em. LeBron James will get one. Hussein Obama will get one///nobody hustles race like that fuck.

[Winehole23]

thread's replies are still hidden for me, but I bet this one fits


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-p35FEVgAMHKJ_?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Ef-man]

thread's replies are still hidden for me, but I bet this one fits


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-p35FEVgAMHKJ_?format=jpg&name=900x900

:lmao

But my heritage of welshing!

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/251485620_235621315336117_7382917274704422071_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=1kPkiQmRSY4AX_WEGsl&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=093f0c97e69661e1570d670951e4f96b&oe=61A5586E

[Winehole23]

Weird statue of KKK founder removed in Nashville. It was made 20 years ago. It's owner described slavery as "social security for the black community."

https://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/W1siZiIsInVwbG9hZHMvcGxhY2VfaW1hZ2VzLzEzODRiZTY1NG Y0MzY1MzRmM18xOTU3ODYyOThfZjIxM2UwNmRhMF9vLmpwZyJd LFsicCIsImNvbnZlcnQiLCIiXSxbInAiLCJjb252ZXJ0IiwiLX F1YWxpdHkgODEgLWF1dG8tb3JpZW50Il0sWyJwIiwidGh1bWIi LCI2MDB4PiJdXQ/195786298_f213e06da0_o.jpg

https://www.thedailybeast.com/roundly-mocked-nathan-bedford-forrest-statue-in-tennessee-taken-down-after-more-than-2-decades

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272695540_321346756763572_3680910318615996053_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=eKY_ZBrkDMIAX_XrZmz&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT_rN3XBW5mgwFD-audpKsJ0wIZaJBSBPHl0-0KRY03i9Q&oe=61F901BC

[Blake]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272695540_321346756763572_3680910318615996053_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=eKY_ZBrkDMIAX_XrZmz&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT_rN3XBW5mgwFD-audpKsJ0wIZaJBSBPHl0-0KRY03i9Q&oe=61F901BC

They were also the losers

[DarrinS]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/272695540_321346756763572_3680910318615996053_n.jp g?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=eKY_ZBrkDMIAX_XrZmz&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=00_AT_rN3XBW5mgwFD-audpKsJ0wIZaJBSBPHl0-0KRY03i9Q&oe=61F901BC



This is super retarded, even by bouts' standards.

[baseline bum]

This is super retarded, even by bouts' standards.

You don't consider the confederates your enemy?

[Winehole23]

You don't consider the confederates your enemy?a lot of people don't. Alexander Stephens made it clear black folks are inferior period and that's what the Confederacy was built on.

[ElNono]

You don't consider the confederates your enemy?

Yeah, I don't get how is it retarded. It's even worse than the Japanese, these folks were American traitors.

[Adam Lambert]

You don't consider the confederates your enemy?

Maybe it would help if people like Darrin just imagined Jefferson Davis and Robert E Lee kneeling during the national anthem.

[DMC]

Yeah, I don't get how is it retarded. It's even worse than the Japanese, these folks were American traitors.

According to some here who support rioting in the streets, being against America is a good thing.

[Blake]

According to some here who support rioting in the streets, being against America is a good thing.

Or like storming the Capitol

[Winehole23]

According to some here who support rioting in the streets, being against America is a good thing.Who are you crying about now? :lol

You act like this forum is rife with bomb-throwing anarchists and fellow travelers, but you never single any of them out. Always waving at an undifferentiated, yet oddly absent mob.

[Thread]

Or like storming the Capitol

The F.B.I. was in right in there storming the Capitol as well after President Trump had told them..."Go down there and peacefully protest."

[Thread]

You don't consider the confederates your enemy?

No.

[Ef-man]

No.

I believe you.

After Lincoln put the confederates in the cuck shed, you must have been grateful for the company.

[Blake]

No.

You rebel you

[Thread]

You rebel you

..."From the cradle of the Confederacy, the very heart of the great Anglo Saxon south land today we sound the call of freedom. Let us rise to the call of freedom loving blood that is in us. In the name the greatest people who has ever trod this earth."

[Blake]

..."From the cradle of the Confederacy, the very heart of the great Anglo Saxon south land today we sound the call of freedom. Let us rise to the call of freedom loving blood that is in us. In the name the greatest people who has ever trod this earth."

People meaning Whites

[Ef-man]

People meaning Whites

The CSA’s decision making would confuse the shit out of dale, maybe even kill him, if he was educated.

Judah Benjamin (a joo) was CSA Secretary of War and later Secretary of State.

Imagine that, a joo taking an important job from an Anglo-Saxon in the Confederacy. :lol

Yup, a joo did indeed replace his ancestors in the CSA. :lmao

[DMC]

Who are you crying about now? :lol

You act like this forum is rife with bomb-throwing anarchists and fellow travelers, but you never single any of them out. Always waving at an undifferentiated, yet oddly absent mob.

Things good, things bad. Depends on who's doing it.

Don't act all preggers, you make a living here off of it.

[Winehole23]

^^^more fortune cookie talk

just keep crying about me, it makes you look smart

[Blake]

Things good, things bad. Depends on who's doing it.


Capitol riot against the US because of the vote going against Trump: good

Antifa riots because cops shooting unarmed blacks: bad

Right?

[ElNono]

According to some here who support rioting in the streets, being against America is a good thing.

There's a pretty significant distance between rioting on the streets and building an army against your fellow Americans...

Not that I agree with those that support rioting in the streets, I don't, but the distinction should be pretty obvious.

[DMC]

Capitol riot against the US because of the vote going against Trump: good

Antifa riots because cops shooting unarmed blacks: bad

Right?

Is the US the land, the government or the people?

When you figure that out, let me know.

The large majority of rioters had no connection to anyone wronged by the cops. They were just bussed in to break shit. Probably same in DC, just people playing their roles. If the number of people breaking shit during riots was the same as those who actually entered the capital, we'd not even have discussed it.

[DMC]

There's a pretty significant distance between rioting on the streets and building an army against your fellow Americans...

Not that I agree with those that support rioting in the streets, I don't, but the distinction should be pretty obvious.

Only difference is in organization and numbers. Antifa wasn't doing anyone favors.

[ChumpDumper]

This is some stupid bullshit from DMC.

[ElNono]

Only difference is in organization and numbers. Antifa wasn't doing anyone favors.

No it isn't, not even close and I know you're not this disingenuous.

Comparing vandalism on the streets to a full blown armed revolution is like comparing firecrackers to an AK47.

Antifa wasn't doing anyone favors, but was also not intent on organizing to murder anybody, start any military conflict nor overthrow any government.

[Ef-man]

No it isn't, not even close and I know you're not this disingenuous.

Comparing vandalism on the streets to a full blown armed revolution is like comparing firecrackers to an AK47.

Antifa wasn't doing anyone favors, but was also not intent on organizing to murder anybody, start any military conflict nor overthrow any government.

DMC got owned for being an idiot!

I see him sulking, bigly. :lmao

[koriwhat]

DMC got owned for being an idiot!

I see him sulking, bigly. :lmao

You just love sucking on dudes balls huh?

[DMC]

No it isn't, not even close and I know you're not this disingenuous.

Comparing vandalism on the streets to a full blown armed revolution is like comparing firecrackers to an AK47.

Antifa wasn't doing anyone favors, but was also not intent on organizing to murder anybody, start any military conflict nor overthrow any government.

If rioters had larger numbers and better organization, they'd not have just taken over the police precinct and created their own little country.

"The Seattle People's Department"

"Capital Hill Autonomous Zone"

:lol

[ElNono]

If rioters had larger numbers and better organization, they'd not have just taken over the police precinct and created their own little country.

"The Seattle People's Department"

"Capital Hill Autonomous Zone"

:lol

If rioters had large numbers, better organization, military training, were fully armed, were backed up by their State's government, claimed the US government was their enemy and took the lives of US service members then they wouldn't be called rioters... they wouldn't be tried as riotets, and basically they have nothing to do with rioters.

See how it's very different? You're comparing apples to oranges.

[DMC]

If rioters had large numbers, better organization, military training, were fully armed, were backed up by their State's government, claimed the US government was their enemy and took the lives of US service members then they wouldn't be called rioters... they wouldn't be tried as riotets, and basically they have nothing to do with rioters.

See how it's very different? You're comparing apples to oranges.

Then you'd call them traitors. The inhabitants of the south didn't revolt. The states revolted. Not sure who was a traitor since they clearly laid out their cause and simply lost. They didn't walk out during a war and join the other side. The secession basically put the US government as a foreign entity, and only citizens can be tried for treason. The officers, sure. Big time traitors since they followed local governments over their own chain of command, however those who signed up under the confederacy weren't traitors. They had made no such oath to the federal government.

[DMC]

One country has nukes to blow the world 100 times over and the other one has a barista working in the corner. :lol

Not sure you understand how war works.

[Blake]

No it isn't, not even close and I know you're not this disingenuous.

That's giving him a lot of cred

[Blake]

You just love sucking on dudes balls huh?

Hey you missed a few DMC posts to like

[ElNono]

Then you'd call them traitors. The inhabitants of the south didn't revolt. The states revolted. Not sure who was a traitor since they clearly laid out their cause and simply lost. They didn't walk out during a war and join the other side. The secession basically put the US government as a foreign entity, and only citizens can be tried for treason. The officers, sure. Big time traitors since they followed local governments over their own chain of command, however those who signed up under the confederacy weren't traitors. They had made no such oath to the federal government.

It's not just me, it's what they are under the law, and to anybody with 2+ brain cells. It's ok to separate the civilians that didn't fight the battles, etc, from those that took arms against the government.

Secession implies you're the other side. Secession doesn't erase the oath they swore to defend the US Constitution (and thus the government set up by it). The Civil War lasted barely 4 years, most generals, politicians and trained military did swore that oath. And anybody that helped them were accessory as well.

This is why you wouldn't confuse those people with 'rioters'.

[spurraider21]

:lmao the confederacy was just a riot :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Then you'd call them traitors. The inhabitants of the south didn't revolt. The states revolted. Not sure who was a traitor since they clearly laid out their cause and simply lost. They didn't walk out during a war and join the other side. The secession basically put the US government as a foreign entity, and only citizens can be tried for treason. The officers, sure. Big time traitors since they followed local governments over their own chain of command, however those who signed up under the confederacy weren't traitors. They had made no such oath to the federal government.

SCOTUS says you're wrong.

[HemisfairArena]

I dont give a shit about the confederate statues but I LMAO that democrats erect a statue of a thug like George Floyd. Basically democrats are saying tear down statues of white racists...erect statues of black criminals.

[ChumpDumper]

I dont give a shit about the confederate statues but I LMAO that democrats erect a statue of a thug like George Floyd. Basically democrats are saying tear down statues of white racists...erect statues of black criminals.
Don't murder him; he won't get a statue.

[HemisfairArena]

Don't murder him; he won't get a statue.

Dont do a crime, he'd still be alive.

[ChumpDumper]

Dont do a crime, he'd still be alive.What crime did he do?

[HemisfairArena]

What crime did he do?

Passing counterfeit money.

[ChumpDumper]

Passing counterfeit money.Is that a summary death penalty offense?

[HemisfairArena]

Is that a summary death penalty offense?

If he didnt commit the crime...store owner doesnt call the cops...cops dont come...dude still alive.

Yes or no?

[ChumpDumper]

If he didnt commit the crime...store owner doesnt call the cops...cops dont come...dude still alive.

Yes or no?If the cops don't murder him, he's still alive.

All they had to do was not murder him.

Do you think it was really so difficult to not murder him?

[HemisfairArena]

If the cops don't murder him, he's still alive.

All they had to do was not murder him.

Do you think it was really so difficult to not murder him?

So its the cops fault he committed a crime?

[ChumpDumper]

So its the cops fault he committed a crime?It's the cops' fault the cops murdered him.

[HemisfairArena]

It's the cops' fault the cops murdered him.

After he committed a crime.

[ChumpDumper]

After he committed a crime.A summary death penalty crime?

You're acting as if the cops had to murder him for any crime he may have committed.

Why?

Should you be murdered the next time you're pulled over?

[HemisfairArena]

Bottom line here Chump Sucker,,,,dont commit crimes.

[ChumpDumper]

Bottom line here Chump Sucker,,,,dont commit crimes.I agree the cops shouldn't commit murder.

[HemisfairArena]

A summary death penalty crime?

You're acting as if the cops had to murder him for any crime he may have committed.

Why?

Should you be murdered the next time you're pulled over?

You take the risk, you roll the dice. Comply and you might survive. Only a loser would defend another loser,,,

[ChumpDumper]

You take the risk, you roll the dice. Comply and you might survive. Only a loser would defend another loser,,,

Why are you defending the loser murderers?

[HemisfairArena]

I agree the cops shouldn't commit murder.

LMAO. what race commits the most crime in the world?

[ChumpDumper]

LMAO. what race commits the most crime in the world?What does that have to do with cops who commit murder?

[HemisfairArena]

Why are you defending the loser murderers?

Blacks kill more cops than the other way around,,,,lets talk about that.

[ChumpDumper]

Blacks kill more cops than the other way around,,,,lets talk about that.Why do you want to change the subject from your defense of loser murderers?

[HemisfairArena]

What does that have to do with cops who commit murder?


Blacks kill more cops than the other way around,,,,lets talk about that.

[HemisfairArena]

Wy do you want to change the subject from your defense of loser murderers?


Blacks kill more cops than the other way around,,,,lets talk about that.

[ChumpDumper]

Blacks kill more cops than the other way around,,,,lets talk about that.Why do you want to change the subject from your defense of loser murderers?

[HemisfairArena]

Why do you want to change the subject from your defense of loser murderers?


Blacks kill more cops than the other way around....yes or no?

[ChumpDumper]

Blacks kill more cops than the other way around....yes or no?I don't know.

Show me your complete stats for both right after you explain why you want to abandon your defense of your loser murderers.

[HemisfairArena]

I don't know.

Show me your complete stats for both.

Am I your personal research assistant?,,,,look it up yourself.

[ChumpDumper]

Am I your personal research assistant?,,,,look it up yourself.It's your claim.

Prove it.

[HemisfairArena]

It's your claim.

Prove it.

Finally,,,,youre learning,,,,,Im still waiting for you to prove how great youre doing in this economy like you claim. Lets see your bank statements.

[ChumpDumper]

Finally,,,,youre learning,,,,,Im still waiting for you to prove how great youre doing in this economy like you claim. Lets see your bank statements.:lol so you're abandoning your claim about blacks too and trying to change the subject again.

You're learning.

[HemisfairArena]

:lol so you're abandoning your claim about blacks too.

You're learning.

So youre defeated,,,,its all good. You got outplayed. I told you, you are a horrible spinmaster.

[ChumpDumper]

So youre defeated,,,,its all good. You got outplayed. I told you, you are a horrible spinmaster.:lol you're the one who gave up on your murderers and your claims about blacks.

You tried to change the subject to me.

In the confederate monument thread.

How is that a W for you?

Explain.

[HemisfairArena]

:lol you're the one who gave up on your murderers and your claims about blacks.

You tried to change the subject to me.

How is that a W for you?

Facts are facts. Blacks kill more cops than the other way around and you cant prove youre doing great in this economy.

[ChumpDumper]

Facts are facts. Blacks kill more cops than the other way aroundShow me your statistics.

Those don't require private information.

[HemisfairArena]

Show me your statistics.

Those don't require private information.

Again not your research assistant,,,

[ChumpDumper]

Again not your research assistant,,,So it's not actually a fact.

You just made it up.

[Blake]

When one derp leaves how is it that there always seems to be another show up to take his place

[DMC]

When one derp leaves how is it that there always seems to be another show up to take his place

Probably because there are blue derps here to take their calls, day or night.

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[HemisfairArena]

So you're saying you doing bad in this economy? :lol

Where did I say that?,,,you democrats sure like to lie.

[HemisfairArena]

So it's not actually a fact.

You just made it up.

Still cant prove your great success in this economy, huh?

[Blake]

Where did I say that?,,,you democrats sure like to lie.

What's with the,,, breaks in your posts? Is the ... key broken?

[HemisfairArena]

What's with the,,, breaks in your posts? Is the ... key broken?

What are you talking about?///

[ChumpDumper]

Still cant prove your great success in this economy, huh?No proof would satisfy you.

Where are your murder stats?

Just post them.

[Blake]

What are you talking about?///

Catchy shtick

[Winehole23]

dIvIsIvE!

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and moral condition. [Applause.] This, our new Government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science. It is so even amongst us. Many who hear me, perhaps, can recollect well that this truth was not generally admitted, even within their day. The errors of the past generation still clung to many as late as twenty years ago. Those at the North who still cling to these errors with a zeal above knowledge, we justly denominate fanatics. All fanaticism springs from an aberration of the mind; from a defect in reasoning. It is a species of insanity. One of the most striking characteristics of insanity, in many instances, is, forming correct conclusions from fancied or erroneous premises; so with the anti-slavery fanatics: their conclusions are right if their premises are.They assume that the negro is equal, and hence conclude that he is entitled to equal privileges and rights, with the white man…. I recollect once of having heard a gentleman from one of the Northern States, of great power and ability, announce in the House of Representatives, with imposing effect, that we of the South would be compelled, ultimately, to yield upon this subject of slavery; that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics, as it was in physics or mechanics. That the principle would ultimately prevail. That we, in maintaining slavery as it exists with us, were warring against a principle-a principle founded in nature, the principle of the equality of man.The reply I made to him was, that upon his own grounds we should succeed, and that he and his associates in their crusade against our institutions would ultimately fail. The truth announced, that it was as impossible to war successfully against a principle in politics as well as in physics and mechanics, I admitted, but told him it was he and those acting with him who were warring against a principle. They were attempting to make things equal which the Creator had made unequal.

In the conflict thus far, success has been on our side, complete throughout the length and breadth of the Confederate States. It is upon this, as I have stated, our social fabric is firmly planted; and I cannot permit myself to doubt the ultimate success of a full recognition of this principle throughout the civilized and enlightened world.

As I have stated, the truth of this principle may be slow in development, as all truths are, and ever have been, in the various branches of science.It was so with the principles announced by Galileo-it was so with Adam Smith and his principles of political economy. It was so with Harvey, and his theory of the circulation of the blood. It is stated that not a single one of the medical profession, living at the time of the announcement of the truths made by him, admitted them. Now, they are universally acknowledged. May we not therefore look with confidence to the ultimate universal acknowledgment of the truths upon which our system rests? It is the first Government ever instituted upon principles in strict conformity to nature, and the ordination of Providence, in furnishing the materials of human society. Many Governments have been founded upon the principles of certain classes; but the classes thus enslaved, were of the same race, and in violation of the laws of nature. Our system commits no such violation of nature’s laws. The negro by nature, or by the curse against Canaan, is fitted for that condition which he occupies in our system.The architect, in the construction of buildings, lays the foundation with the proper material-the granite-then comes the brick or the marble. The substratum of our society is made of the material fitted by nature for it, and by experience we know that it is the best, not only for the superior but for the inferior race, that it should be so.It is, indeed, in conformity with the Creator. It is not for us to inquire into the wisdom of His ordinances or to question them. For His own purposes He has made one race to differ from another, as He has made “one star to differ from another in glory.”
The great objects of humanity are best attained, when conformed to his laws and degrees, in the formation of Governments as well as in all things else. Our Confederacy is founded upon principles in strict conformity with these laws. This stone which was rejected by the first builders “is become the chief stone of the corner” in our new edifice.

[Winehole23]

so much for the "it was really about states' rights" crowd

[Winehole23]

Who was Dr. Mudd?

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[Winehole23]

(Point being not that John Wilkes Booth received medical care, but that we don't need a public monument to remind us who Dr. Mudd was.)

[Winehole23]

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[ChumpDumper]

Why was this place named Fort Biggest Loser in the first place?

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[Winehole23]

Why was this place named Fort Biggest Loser in the first place?

1639642074655105025Jim Crow and Lost Cause bullshit. The Army desegregated (more accurately, was desegregated by amendments to the Selective Service Act) starting in 1940, so I guess they had a reason to suck up to sore loser southerners squicked out by black troops. Fort Hood opened in 1942.


The military officials in charge of naming the posts, including Brig. Gen. Joseph E. Kuhn, set only the vaguest of rules: The names should honor officers who had a connection to the region and who were “not unpopular” in the area, and they should be short, to save “clerical labor.” Beyond that, the Army seemed not to have cared much. In some cases, officials actively sought to name camps after Confederate commanders if Southern divisions were to be housed there.


William Sturkey, a history professor at University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill, says the military left much of the decision-making to the local — and, of course, entirely white — authorities. In an effort to build local goodwill, it allowed base names to be selected by small-town government officials, businesspeople and, in some cases, by the local chambers of commerce.https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-10-14/civil-war-base-names-confederate-generals

[ChumpDumper]

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:lol DeSantis loves the confederate losers more than he loves liberty.

[ChumpDumper]

If you listen closely, you can hear him scream.

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[velik_m]

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Flag of traitors and losers. You must like it.

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Flag of traitors and losers. You must like it.

You're nary better, v. You stood by while Americans have tried to blow Trump up, cut Trump's head off and have tried to shoot Trump to death numerous times. You thought that behavior fine & dandy.

"For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind."

[benefactor]

Flag of traitors and losers. You must like it.
He's just a spam bot now. He's always been an attention whore but since he's been back he's been stuck in a closed loop brought on by Trump losing to Biden then getting indicted. He's a prototypical boomer with a personality disorder.

[koriwhat]

He's just a spam bot now. He's always been an attention whore but since he's been back he's been stuck in a closed loop brought on by Trump losing to Biden then getting indicted. He's a prototypical boomer with a personality disorder.

I think he just likes fucking with yall and isn't well versed in trolling 101 so he's simply on repeat mode.

[koriwhat]

Flag of traitors and losers. You must like it.


What flag? LOL Them UBlock filters have been a life saver!

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He's just a spam bot now. He's always been an attention whore but since he's been back he's been stuck in a closed loop brought on by Trump losing to Biden then getting indicted. He's a prototypical boomer with a personality disorder.

& you're my fart-catcher, bene-boy.

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[Ef-man]

He's just a spam bot now. He's always been an attention whore but since he's been back he's been stuck in a closed loop brought on by Trump losing to Biden then getting indicted. He's a prototypical boomer with a personality disorder.

Interesting Joey saying someone is not "well versed in trolling 101" and "simply on repeat mode."

He is agreeing with MultiTroll's assessment that someone is a parrot! :lmao

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[Winehole23]

muh confederacy

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[koriwhat]

muh confederacy

It's not about "muh confederacy" and more to do with low life scumbag commies like you who think erasing history, good or bad, will be in society's favor. Fuck you and the commies you align with.

[ChumpDumper]

choosing not to worship <> erasing history

Only stupid people would think it is.

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[Winehole23]

choosing not to worship <> erasing history

Only stupid people would think it is.Exactly.

It's not like people won't know who Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson are if their statues are taken down.

I think it's withdrawing public veneration that bothers the Lost Cause crowd. Statues all by themselves have very little to teach people about history.

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Exactly.

It's not like people won't know who Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson are if their statues are taken down.

I think it's withdrawing public veneration that bothers the Lost Cause crowd. Statues all by themselves have very little to teach people about history.


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[ElNono]

It's not like people won't know who Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson are if their statues are taken down.

Who celebrates losers anyways?

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Who celebrates losers anyways?


Then, El, you certainly will not mind this of a Monday mornin', comin' down.
Let us proceed...
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[Ef-man]

Q: Who celebrates losers anyways?

A: The butthurt offspring of the losers. They can readily be identified by their incessant crying after their hide is tanned in the woodshed.

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A: The butthurt offspring of the losers. They can readily be identified by their incessant crying after their hide is tanned in the woodshed.


Then, Effy, you certainly will not mind this of a Monday mornin', comin' down.
Let us proceed...

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sorry you guys cannot celebrate the losers of the Civil War anymore. You are 100 years too late.

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[Winehole23]

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[ChumpDumper]

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:lol another Trumptard L

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[ChumpDumper]

Anything that triggers these idiots is fine with me.:tu

[Ef-man]

Anything that triggers these idiots is fine with me.:tu

The MAGAs triggered mental gymnastics is incredible. :lol

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Anything that triggers these idiots is fine with me.:tu

Me & you both, brother.

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[ChumpDumper]

The MAGAs triggered mental gymnastics is incredible. :lol

:lol looks like Trumptard shit is being lost as we speak

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[Ef-man]

:lol looks like Trumptard shit is being lost as we speak

Lost like their "heritage." :lol

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[lebomb]

Never seen the LOSER of a war want statues and memorials to stay in place. The confederates LOST the war. They don't deserve anything to show they even participated in an arsewhoopin.

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Never seen the LOSER of a war want statues and memorials to stay in place. The confederates LOST the war. They don't deserve anything to show they even participated in an arsewhoopin.

America lost Vietnam and that Wall is still there. tee, hee.

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[Winehole23]

Never seen the LOSER of a war want statues and memorials to stay in place. The confederates LOST the war. They don't deserve anything to show they even participated in an arsewhoopin.They lost the war but won the peace. The mania for Confederate monuments in the first decade or two of the 20th Century was a celebration of the then dominant Jim Crow order and the "redemption" proclaimed in "Birth of a Nation."

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[djohn2oo8]

That flag got Ashli Babbit killed

[djohn2oo8]

Shot dead

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That flag got Ashli Babbit killed

And the Black getting bum rushed to a mic..."Here, tights, hold this medal and don't smile."

tee, hee.

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Shot dead

The gov't did the same at Waco. Only that time they did not get away with it, dj. McVeigh ran 'em to ground at OKC and conducted Empathy 101 classes out front of Murrah.

[Monostradamus]

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Aren’t you a wop from Cleveland?

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Aren’t you a wop from Cleveland?

No, my people are from Alabama, "the cradle of the Confederacy, the very heart of the great Anglo Saxon south land."

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[Monostradamus]

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Says the dago from the North.

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Says the dago from the North.



"From the cradle of the Confederacy, the very heart of the great Anglo Saxon south land today we sound the call of freedom. Let us rise to the freedom loving blood that is in us. In the name of the greatest people who *has ever trod this earth..."

*denotes present tense.

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[Winehole23]

Says the dago from the North.muh heritage

[Ef-man]

mama mia heritage

fify

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[FrostKing]

Walking the streets of Gdansk, there is a memorial on every block. Brings home the point of how our ancestors fought for every street. Polska has great traditions all over our cities but this one really stuck with me.

Gdańsk also has arguably the best WW2 museum in the World. I went. If it occurred, no matter by who, it's here. Multiple pathways divided by nation. You'll spend 4 hours+

Solidarity museum. My biggest pleasant surprise of my trip. Another aesthetically eye catching brand new museum. The end will navigate you to the roof overseeing the ship yard.

Polska poured money into Gdansk. The crowd is Scandinavian. Must see.

*Polska has a number of amazing museums. IMO politically/ideologically it's fair. It doesn't turn the experience into Disneyland but also allows people to book tours with more "controversial" guides. For example when I went to Oskar Schindler's Factory in Krakow. Polish guy didn't baby.

[FrostKing]

Polska is badass trip especially during footy tournament. Quiet early in the day people running errands. Then everyone tuned to the games. Except for harassing women, you can do anything you want on weekend nights. There will always be some alcoholic on the bench to sing with you.

Bum might wake up on the bench but they aren't allowed to linger. Have to hide from public view. Bums ask for cigarettes but not money.

[Winehole23]

Polska is badass trip especially during footy tournament. Quiet early in the day people running errands. Then everyone tuned to the games. Except for harassing women, you can do anything you want on weekend nights. There will always be some alcoholic on the bench to sing with you.

Bum might wake up on the bench but they aren't allowed to linger. Have to hide from public view. Bums ask for cigarettes but not money.woke up drunk?

[FrostKing]

woke up drunk?
I'm here to save Political board

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm here to save Political board

Reads like drunk. You are particularly shrill about Poland too which is a tell.

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[lebomb]

RACIST :flipoff

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[Winehole23]

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[Ef-man]

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What gets me is that the recently immigrated people (e.g., like Yam Tits Ducks, Frost, Hater, Indian/WOP) had no family members in the Civil War yet they act as though they are aggrieved. :lol

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Damn, the old site ain't been this agile in a coon's age.

Great job, Sysop!

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[clambake]

Gnat

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[Ef-man]

Fun Confederate fact: They got whooped soundly; they had their hide tanned by U. S. Grant in the woodshed; their great-grandkids are still crying about it; and they did not ring.