EuroBasket 2017 - Spurs Focus

[ace3g]

A thread for all Spurs - related news from EuroBasket 2017


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcJFp_c32zw

[spurs10]

:bobo

[TheDoctor]

Bertans looking like an MVP against D-League's talent :toast

[raybies]

Is Porzingis playing too?

[hooperflash]

Is Porzingis playing too?
Yes, his highlights are available in the suggested videos.

[tbdog]

Bertans will be a good NBA player. Just needs a few seasons to fill out.

[ace3g]

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[Spurtacular]

Bertans!

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/breakingbad/images/e/e8/T5B_-_Todd.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130812131451&path-prefix=es

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsEmAuGx4c

[Phenomanul]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsEmAuGx4c

Offensively, he will be an upgrade over Dedmon... defensively is where he will still need much work...

[TheDoctor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsEmAuGx4c

Ferrari sighting :cry

[ace3g]

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[TheDoctor]

900439746220052480
Did Manu play?

[CGD]

Offensively, he will be an upgrade over Dedmon... defensively is where he will still need much work...

This guys is 2016 David Lee 2.0.

[Dex]

This guys is 2016 David Lee 2.0.

I'd be happy with that.

[Seventyniner]

I'd be happy with that.

I'd be ecstatic with that. Joff is borderline as a 4th big, he would have to seriously overachieve (relative to his career so far) to be a decent 3rd big.

[Mr. Body]

Is Bertans still working on two rebounds a game?

[rastaspur]

Is Bertans still working on two rebounds a game?

Give em a break, yo. That 10th finger is absolutely essential for grabbing boards. He needs a wooden hand like chubbs (Carl weathers) in happy gilmore. He gets that and he is an instant double double machine.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVIPfZ0QfLg

[cutewizard]

Poor mans Kevin Durant

[cutewizard]

Gasol should now start recruiting his brother

[Dex]

Gasol should now start recruiting his brother

Marc isn't a free agent for 2 years sooooo...have to hope a trade is in the works for that to happen.

That being said...would love to see what the Super Gasol Bros. could do in the NBA...preferably before they are both pushing 40;

[cutewizard]

Marc isn't a free agent for 2 years sooooo...have to hope a trade is in the works for that to happen.

That being said...would love to see what the Super Gasol Bros. could do in the NBA...preferably before they are both pushing 40;

:bobo

[DAF86]

Not Eurobasket but Garino is tearing shit up on the Americup. He's playing bullyball defense ala Kawhi and making all kinds of shots on offense. He seems a level above the rest of the field. If he can keep this up he might make it on the NBA afterall.

[MultiTroll]

Bertans will be a good NBA player. Just needs a few seasons to fill out.
We haven't got that much time Scotty
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/3/39/James_Kirk_prematurely_aged.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070731184755&path-prefix=en

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6q8BiC-HH0

[spurs10]

Thanks Sir Acelot for all this info. Will any games be broadcast on American cable like ESPN?

[jyra]

France just lost to Finland. I didn't watch the whole game but Lauvergne really struggled to score in the second half.

[Phenomanul]

Not Eurobasket but Garino is tearing shit up on the Americup. He's playing bullyball defense ala Kawhi and making all kinds of shots on offense. He seems a level above the rest of the field. If he can keep this up he might make it on the NBA afterall.

Do his rights belong to anyone? Or is he a free-agent?

[TheGreatYacht]

Garbino looked mediocre in the D-League, even worse than Livio. He's better off looking for another career.

[DAF86]

Do his rights belong to anyone? Or is he a free-agent?

I think he is a free agent.

[FrankieS]

France 84 - 86 Finland

Lauvergne 18 minutes 4 pts, 4 rbs. He was really bad. 2point shots 1/6. Nando de Colo 21 pts and Fournier 25 pts were Frances best players. Boris Diaw 9 pts and 9 rbs. Boris is now HUGE.

On the other hand, Finlands 20 year old (still not physically very strong) 212 cm NBA rookie Markkanen 22 pt at the (stretch) center/pf -position.

[Ice009]

Fuck, this Joffery guy has got mistake written all over him. The Spurs should be getting rid of Tony Parker via trade and not taking recommendations from him on players to sign.

I hope Kawhi doesn't bolt because of this shit.

And darn, I was holding out hope that Boris got in better shape and that the Spurs would sign him. Does he just not give a shit at all? What is wrong with this guy. I wish I had 1/10th of the talent that he has. What a waste, Bobo.

[jyra]

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[Maddog]

France 84 - 86 Finland

Lauvergne 18 minutes 4 pts, 4 rbs. He was really bad. 2point shots 1/6. Nando de Colo 21 pts and Fournier 25 pts were Frances best players. Boris Diaw 9 pts and 9 rbs. Boris is now HUGE.

On the other hand, Finlands 20 year old (still not physically very strong) 212 cm NBA rookie Markkanen 22 pt at the (stretch) center/pf -position.
Wow
Finland has more Reindeer than people and they beat France....

[TheGreatYacht]

Wow
Finland has more Reindeer than people and they beat France....
France is nothing without MVParker.

[ECOV]

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:bobo:bobo

[Chinook]

903644406951051264

Pretty sure SVG is planning on throwing the max at Davis next summer

[cd98]

Pretty sure SVG is planning on throwing the max at Davis next summer

Is Davis playing center next year?

[Seventyniner]

Is Davis playing center next year?

SVG is just working his way down the depth chart. By next decade he'll be overpaying Spurs' 3rd string PGs.

[TimDunkem]

Fuck, this Joffery guy has got mistake written all over him. The Spurs should be getting rid of Tony Parker via trade and not taking recommendations from him on players to sign.

I hope Kawhi doesn't bolt because of this shit.

And darn, I was holding out hope that Boris got in better shape and that the Spurs would sign him. Does he just not give a shit at all? What is wrong with this guy. I wish I had 1/10th of the talent that he has. What a waste, Bobo.
Our frontline is looking really bad this year.

Say what you want about Lee and Deadman - at the very least - they were rotation caliber players and added depth. Lauvergne is a fringe NBA player, LMA:lol is a cancer who can't even post up guards, Gasol is an ancient poor defensive player who burns out in the playoffs, and Kyle and Davis both have a lot of issues at this point in their careers - the former being slow and not very good at any one thing, while the latter can't grab a board to save his life.

The Spurs are going to give up a lot of offensive rebounds and points in the paint this upcoming season.

[SAGirl]

France 84 - 86 Finland

Lauvergne 18 minutes 4 pts, 4 rbs. He was really bad. 2point shots 1/6. Nando de Colo 21 pts and Fournier 25 pts were Frances best players. Boris Diaw 9 pts and 9 rbs. Boris is now HUGE.

On the other hand, Finlands 20 year old (still not physically very strong) 212 cm NBA rookie Markkanen 22 pt at the (stretch) center/pf -position.
Thanks for that report. I am expecting a somewhat better Jeff Ayres in Luavergne, basically so long as he's not as TO prone, similar everywhere else which means he's a deep bench player.

[ace3g]

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[jyra]

I wonder why he chose Tel Aviv. The group stages are played in different cities across Europe and the group in Isreal is the only one that doesn't include a Spurs player (technically there's Sankidze but he is not even on Georgia's roster).

[ace3g]

I wonder why he chose Tel Aviv. The group stages are played in different cities across Europe and the group in Isreal is the only one that doesn't include a Spurs player (technically there's Sankidze but he is not even on Georgia's roster).

Keeping in eye on Zaza...


http://www.fiba.basketball/img/flags/30x/FRA.jpg France


#
Players
MIN
PTS
FG
2PTS
3PTS
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
TO
STL
BLK
+/-
EF


1
K. Seraphin
12:59
9
4/666.7%
4/666.7%
0/0-%
1/250%
0
2
2
1
1
1
0
0
-5
8


4
*T. Heurtel
25:27
13
5/862.5%
4/580%
1/333.3%
2/2100%
0
1
1
4
3
1
0
0
2
14


6
A. Diot

Did not play


7

*J. Lauvergne
27:01
21
10/1471.4%
9/1369.2%
1/1100%
0/30%
4
7
11
1
3
1
1
0
13
26


10
*E. Fournier
33:56
21
5/1145.5%
3/742.9%
2/450%
9/1275%
0
3
3
2
3
4
2
0
18
15


12
*N. De Colo
28:00
16
4/944.4%
1/333.3%
3/650%
5/683.3%
0
3
3
2
3
1
2
0
7
16


13
*B. Diaw(C)
23:17
3
1/425%
1/250%
0/20%
1/250%
2
1
3
4
3
2
0
0
-1
4


15
L. Westermann
16:30
2
0/20%
0/0-%
0/20%
2/366.7%
0
1
1
4
3
2
0
0
1
2


17
V. Poirier
00:01
0
0/0-%
0/0-%
0/0-%
0/0-%
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
0


25
L. Labeyrie
16:10
8
2/2100%
2/2100%
0/0-%
4/4100%
0
3
3
0
2
1
0
0
10
10


33
A. Toupane
03:23
0
0/0-%
0/0-%
0/0-%
0/0-%
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
0
-2
0


91
E. Jackson
13:16
2
1/1100%
1/1100%
0/0-%
0/0-%
1
1
2
1
4
1
0
0
-3
4


Team/Coaches






0
2
2

0
0






TOTALS
200
95
32/5756.1%
25/3964.1%
7/1838.9%
24/3470.6%
7
24
31
19
26
14
5
0
8
99



http://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2017/0209/Greece-France#%257Ctab=boxscore_statistics

[ace3g]

According to a report, San Antonio Spurs' Davis Bertans has suffered a finger injury during Latvia's opening game of EuroBasket 2017 versus Serbia and he did not let him play in Latvia's 92-64 win over Belgium.


Reports go on to say he did not suffer a break after x-rays were conducted and he's not feeling any pain.
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"I'm waiting for what the doctor will say, it's hard to say because I have not had the ball in the hands since Friday, but I do not feel pain. We have a morning off, and we will see what we can do. There was a X-ray, nothing broken."The report goes on to say a Spurs representative will review his injury moving forward.
Bertans finished with 16 points in Latvia's loss to Serbia.
Team Latvia's next game will be Sept. 4 versus Great Britain.


(Via LSM.LV)

http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/content/report-davis-bertans-suffers-finger-injury

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXTffCkvY0M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8jcTM4Wysk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HizCntud3s8

[jyra]

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[szkorhetz]

Gasol :worthy:

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIvWlCsXoAAPK1e.jpg:large

[TheDoctor]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIvWlCsXoAAPK1e.jpg:large
Ferrari :cry

[SAGirl]

Davis looks good in those highlights!
:tu

Lauvergne bounced back to have a good game against Greece.

[BillMc]

According to a report, San Antonio Spurs' Davis Bertans has suffered a finger injury during Latvia's opening game of EuroBasket 2017 versus Serbia and he did not let him play in Latvia's 92-64 win over Belgium.


Reports go on to say he did not suffer a break after x-rays were conducted and he's not feeling any pain.
ADVERTISING


"I'm waiting for what the doctor will say, it's hard to say because I have not had the ball in the hands since Friday, but I do not feel pain. We have a morning off, and we will see what we can do. There was a X-ray, nothing broken."
The report goes on to say a Spurs representative will review his injury moving forward.
Bertans finished with 16 points in Latvia's loss to Serbia.
Team Latvia's next game will be Sept. 4 versus Great Britain.


(Via LSM.LV)

http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/content/report-davis-bertans-suffers-finger-injury


Davis down to 8 fingers....

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXTffCkvY0M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8jcTM4Wysk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HizCntud3s8

Cheers for posting that. :toast

Davis looking-good. And I still am hoping somehow to see the Gasol Brothers playout their careers as Spurs. (Starting when Marc is still young enough to really help.)

[BillMc]

Ferrari :cry

The days when our bench had real spark. :depressed

[ace3g]

France beat Iceland today.

http://www.fiba.basketball/img/flags/30x/FRA.jpg France


#
Players
MIN
PTS
FG
2PTS
3PTS
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
TO
STL
BLK
+/-
EF


1
K. Seraphin
16:32
14
7/977.8%
7/977.8%
0/0-%
0/0-%
2
2
4
0
2
1
1
1
15
17


4
*T. Heurtel
18:46
9
3/475%
0/0-%
3/475%
0/0-%
0
6
6
6
3
0
0
0
23
20


6
A. Diot
19:01
6
2/450%
2/2100%
0/20%
2/540%
0
2
2
4
1
0
0
0
17
7


7

*J. Lauvergne
13:45
13
5/6 83.3%

4/5 80%
1/1 100%
2/4 50%
1
1
2
2
2
0
0
0
10
14


10
*E. Fournier
09:50
7
3/837.5%
2/540%
1/333.3%
0/0-%
1
1
2
1
1
1
1
0
1
5


12
*N. De Colo
20:16
16
7/977.8%
5/683.3%
2/366.7%
0/0-%
0
1
1
4
2
2
5
0
14
22


13
*B. Diaw(C)
15:50
2
1/333.3%
1/250%
0/10%
0/0-%
0
4
4
2
0
0
0
0
13
6


15
L. Westermann
15:34
5
2/2100%
2/2100%
0/0-%
1/250%
1
1
2
6
0
2
1
1
14
12


17
V. Poirier
15:59
10
3/475%
3/475%
0/0-%
4/666.7%
0
4
4
1
3
1
0
3
12
14


25
L. Labeyrie
17:54
9
3/475%
3/475%
0/0-%
3/560%
0
5
5
2
0
0
0
2
22
15


33
A. Toupane
15:24
10
4/666.7%
3/475%
1/250%
1/250%
0
3
3
1
1
2
2
0
4
11


91
E. Jackson
21:09
14
5/771.4%
3/560%
2/2100%
2/2100%
0
4
4
2
1
1
1
1
35
19


Team/Coaches






0
0
0

0
1






TOTALS
200
115
45/6668.2%
35/4872.9%
10/1855.6%
15/2657.7%
5
34
39
31
16
11
11
8
36
162




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBnv0DuXJFY

http://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2017/0309/France-Iceland#|tab=boxscore_statistics

[TheDoctor]

The days when our bench had real spark. :depressed
TBH my man.

[ace3g]

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[ace3g]

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[jyra]

Shooting clinic by Davis against Great Britain:

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All that in just 18 minutes of play.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzBtYutMyLc

[SPURt]

Shooting clinic by Davis against Great Britain:

904680887719211008

All that in just 18 minutes of play.
Damn, good for him. Hopefully he takes that to the nba this season.

[TheDoctor]

Damn, good for him. Hopefully he takes that to the nba this season.
Doesn't matter, Pop would have seated him after the 4th straight 3-pointer just to teach him a "get over himself" lesson.

:pop: - Go sit and think about what you have done niner.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htzPqcbdfrA

[Phenomanul]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htzPqcbdfrA

Nic Batum style...

[BillMc]

Doesn't matter, Pop would have seated him after the 4th straight 3-pointer just to teach him a "get over himself" lesson.

:pop: - Go sit and think about what you have done niner.

:lol

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htzPqcbdfrA
What exactly went wrong with the Hanga contract? Was it just Manu coming back?

[Ice009]

darn man, that's a monster game from Hanga. Who did they play?

[DAF86]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htzPqcbdfrA

Fluke shooting night, tbh.

[DAF86]

darn man, that's a monster game from Hanga. Who did they play?

Czech Republic.

[ace3g]

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[SAGirl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htzPqcbdfrA
Yup. Spurs weren't interested though. :td Good for him however.

[SAGirl]

What exactly went wrong with the Hanga contract? Was it just Manu coming back?
Spurs didn't want to pay him what he was worth in all likelihood ... There s a lot of discussion about it in one of the Manu back threads. He said Spurs reneged on a deal.

[SAGirl]

Fluke shooting night, tbh.
Davis wishes he could put up such a line, tbh.

[BillMc]

Spurs didn't want to pay him what he was worth in all likelihood ... There s a lot of discussion about it in one of the Manu back threads. He said Spurs reneged on a deal.
Thanks. :toast

[BillMc]

904932106333110277

Davis seems like a cool guy.

[Chinook]

Fluke shooting night, tbh.

Would be the best guard on the roster right now

[DAF86]

Would be the best guard on the roster right now

shooting less than 30% from 3 on FIBA distance, I doubt it.

[TimDunkem]

shooting less than 30% from 3 on FIBA distance, I doubt it.
Yuck...And this is going to be our backup 4 next year.

[DAF86]

Yuck...And this is going to be our backup 4 next year.

I'm talking about Hanga, tbh.

[TimDunkem]

I'm talking about Hanga, tbh.
My bad. I see that now. :lol Still sucks though that our backup 4 can't grab a board or do much of anything, tbh.

[DAF86]

Davis wishes he could put up such a line, tbh.

Hanga wishes he could have an NBA skillset, tbh.

[Phenomanul]

Hanga looks slow... even in that "flukish" game...

[jyra]

#
Players
MIN
PTS
FG
2PTS
3PTS
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
TO
STL
BLK
+/-
EF


8
D. Bertans
25:17
9
4/8 50%
3/5 60%
1/3 33.3%
0/1 0%
1
4
5
1
2
3
1
0
15
8


Win against Russia



#
Players
MIN
PTS
FG
2PTS
3PTS
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
TO
STL
BLK
+/-
EF


7
*J. Lauvergne
26:22
6
1/9 11.1%
1/7 14.3%
0/2 0%
4/5 80%
0
11
11
3
1
3
0
0
-9
8


Win against Poland



#
Players
MIN
PTS
FG
2PTS
3PTS
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
TO
STL
BLK
+/-
EF


4
*P. Gasol
28:49
11
5/14 35.7%
5/12 41.7%
0/2 0%
1/2 50%
5
5
10
3
2
2
1
1
-2
14


Win against Croatia



#
Players
MIN
PTS
FG
2PTS
3PTS
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
TO
STL
BLK
+/-
EF


8
*A. Hanga(C)
32:13
25
8/19 42.1%
6/11 54.5%
2/8 25%
7/9 77.8%
0
6
6
2
1
3
1
0
13
18


Win against Romania


All four players have already qualified for the knockout stages with their respective teams.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azYtVahhiG4

[SAGirl]

Lauvergne back to sucking apparently. Ughhhh
Thanks for sharing Jyra. :tu

[jyra]

905804190710202368

He passed Tony Parker (second) and Dirk Nowitzki (third).

[Chinook]

Not signing Hanga is looking straight ridiculous at this point. On top of this offensive explosion, dude is a reigning ELDPOY. Even signing Manu, you have to bring him over. Could have let two of White, Paul and Blossomgame go to other teams in favor of some decent bigs (ESPECIALLY considering that they knew at the time they were going to re-sign Mills).

[Chinook]

Lauvergne back to sucking apparently. Ughhhh
Thanks for sharing Jyra. :tu

Assuming the Spurs are going to be playing LMA at the five and Pau off the bench, it doesn't make sense to have Joffrey over Tiago.

[TheDoctor]

Assuming the Spurs are going to be playing LMA at the five and Pau off the bench, it doesn't make sense to have Joffrey over Tiago.
It makes sense from a health point of view. Tiago isn't reliable. Can't stay healthy. At least Joff will give the other functional bigs some rest minutes. Injured Tiago can't even do that.

[lefty]

905804190710202368

He passed Tony Parker (second) and Dirk Nowitzki (third).

dabom

[DAF86]

Not signing Hanga is looking straight ridiculous at this point. On top of this offensive explosion, dude is a reigning ELDPOY. Even signing Manu, you have to bring him over. Could have let two of White, Paul and Blossomgame go to other teams in favor of some decent bigs (ESPECIALLY considering that they knew at the time they were going to re-sign Mills).

"Offensive explosion". Shooting 42% from the field and 25% from 3 against subpar competition. :lol

[Chinook]

"Offensive explosion". Shooting 42% from the field and 25% from 3. :lol

Still about a point per possession depending on how many of those FTs were and-1s or fouls on threes. Would be one of the best marks on last year's team.

[TheDoctor]

"Offensive explosion". Shooting 42% from the field and 25% from 3 against subpar competition. :lol
All in all, Hanga is better than Simmons. That already was an upgrade.

[DAF86]

All in all, Hanga is better than Simmons. That already was an upgrade.

On offense, he's actually a poor man's Simmons.

[DAF86]

Still about a point per possession depending on how many of those FTs were and-1s or fouls on threes. Would be one of the best marks on last year's team.

Have you even seen the guy play?

[jyra]

Still about a point per possession depending on how many of those FTs were and-1s or fouls on threes. Would be one of the best marks on last year's team.

His average stats are a bit misleading:



Match
Min
FG
2pts
3pts
FT

O
D
Tot
As
PF
To
St
BS
+/-
Ef
Pts


vs CRO (http://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2017/Croatia) Group Phase
16
2/7 28.6%
1/4 25%
1/3 33.3%
0/0 0%

0
1
1
4
1
1
1
0
-1
5
5


vs MNE (http://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2017/Montenegro) Group Phase
22
3/10 30%
2/4 50%
1/6 16.7%
1/3 33.3%

0
0
0
3
1
2
1
1
-5
2
8


vs CZE (http://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2017/Czech-Republic) Group Phase
33
10/16 62.5%
4/7 57.1%
6/9 66.7%
5/8 62.5%

1
7
8
8
1
5
1
0
9
34
31


vs ROU (http://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2017/Romania) Group Phase
32
8/19 42.1%
6/11 54.5%
2/8 25%
7/9 77.8%

0
6
6
2
1
3
1
0
13
18
25


vs ESP (http://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2017/Spain) Group Phase

Did not play



Min
FG
2pts
3pts
FT

O
D
Tot
As
PF
To
St
BS
+/-
Ef
Pts


Accumulated
103
23/52 44.2%
13/26 50%
10/26 38.5%
13/20 65%

1
14
15
17
4
11
4
1
16
59
69


Average
25.8
5.8/13 44.2%
3.2/6.5 50%
2.5/6.5 38.5%
3.2/5 65%

0.3
3.5
3.8
4.3
1
2.8
1
0.3
4
14.8
17.



Romania and Czech Republic are much weaker compared to other teams. To be fair, it has to be mentioned that Hanga suffered a hip injury in the first game. It's hard to jugde him in these circumstances.

[Chinook]

Have you even seen the guy play?

Not as much as I'd like. I watched him when he and Bertans were together (ironically enough, I watched for Bourousis). It's only been highlights since then. IDGAF about the tourney this year, but considering that the team did not offer the LLE, it's hard for his stats to be misleading enough to not warrant a contract.

[TimDunkem]

Is it possible that he rejected the Spurs? Why come over from a smaller pond where you're a bigger name if you're going to be stuck on the bench behind two old men, a guy who prefers the club over being a better ball player, Fathead, 3 rookies, and 2 sophomores?

[DAF86]

Not as much as I'd like. I watched him when he and Bertans were together (ironically enough, I watched for Bourousis). It's only been highlights since then. IDGAF about the tourney this year, but considering that the team did not offer the LLE, it's hard for his stats to be misleading enough to not warrant a contract.

Hanga isn't worth it, tbh. The only reason he's putting some raw stats is because he's a go to guy for Hungary, but in teams with real talent he's nothing more than a role player. In the NBA he would be a 3 and D guy that can't shoot for shit. He's basically a less athletic version of Simmons.

[Chinook]

Hanga isn't worth it, tbh. The only reason he's putting some raw stats is because he's a go to guy for Hungary, but in teams with real talent he's nothing more than a role player. In the NBA he would be a 3 and D guy that can't shoot for shit. He's basically a least athletic version of Simmons.

On a good team, he was the DPOY. Simmons got a ton of hype for being a good defender but usually wasn't. Regardless, the LLE was for less than half of Simmons' APY.

[DAF86]

On a good team, he was the DPOY. Simmons got a ton of hype for being a good defender but usually wasn't. Regardless, the LLE was for less than half of Simmons' APY.

If Simmons played in Europe he might have won DPoY too, tbh. And I'm sure he would shoot better than 32% from FIBA 3pt line.

[SAGirl]

Is it possible that he rejected the Spurs? Why come over from a smaller pond where you're a bigger name if you're going to be stuck on the bench behind two old men, a guy who prefers the club over being a better ball player, Fathead, 3 rookies, and 2 sophomores?
No. He was very clear. This was an instagram post by him, not his agent, media or an intermediary. He wanted to come over and play in the NBA, but Spurs reneged on an offer, or backpedaled at any rate.

[SAGirl]

On a good team, he was the DPOY. Simmons got a ton of hype for being a good defender but usually wasn't. Regardless, the LLE was for less than half of Simmons' APY.
That's a good point. The amount is small for a potential rotation wing. But I have only seen Spurs pick up potentials in minimum deals to prove themselves and Hanga is worth more than that at least in Europe. I am guessing he wouldn't take BPaul minimum deal and Spurs wouldn't offer him what he is worth. Why wouldn't the Spurs do that?

This is my speculation: at one point they considered possibilities of Manu retiring, Simmons leaving (even b4 the QO was pulled Simmons camp had told Jabari Young they wanted to test the market and Young estimated likelihood of him being reupped at 50/50. Knowing what we now know it's probably more likely that Simmons was going to be gone than not and Spurs knew it) Spurs were not going to overpay or reup him at a higher price. Spurs also tried to trade Danny. So, in their summer projections they had minutes to replace at the wings and a small budget. But then Danny couldn't be traded, Manu didn't retire and Simmons was gone but they signed Rudy Gay. I think they just weren't feeling the pressure anymore and wouldn't pay more than minimum contracts after that. They might have even be aware that like DeColo, Hanga wasn't going to be happy riding the pine if they had no real minutes for him so they would only bring him if they needed minutes pretty badly.

[Chinook]

This is Google's official pic for Bourousis btb:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000703793653/cd8c1b523534e6b88a6df7afe8dd07f5_400x400.jpeg

Has nothing to do with the Spurs (unfortunately), but I just happened to see it when spell-checking Ioannis' name.

[TD 21]

Assuming the Spurs are going to be playing LMA at the five and Pau off the bench, it doesn't make sense to have Joffrey over Tiago.

Whether they generally start big or small, considering there are only 3 players capable of playing center (unless you count Costello), they couldn't afford to not prioritize durability and stamina. When Aldridge and Gasol get a rest game or are injured, they need a live body that can eat more than spot minutes.

Think Lauvergne over a more traditional center and Paul over Hanga indicate a philosophical shift, in that everyone must be at least somewhat of a triple threat offensively.

[SAGirl]

This is Google's official pic for Bourousis btb:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000703793653/cd8c1b523534e6b88a6df7afe8dd07f5_400x400.jpeg

Has nothing to do with the Spurs (unfortunately), but I just happened to see it when spell-checking Ioannis' name.
:lol
Pretty bad Photoshop :lol

[ace3g]

France fell to Germany 81-84

France

#

Players
MIN
PTS
FG
2PTS
3PTS
FT
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
TO
STL
BLK
+/-
EF


1
*K. Seraphin
20:05
6
3/560%
3/560%
0/0-%
0/0-%
2
5
7
0
2
1
0
0
6
10


4
*T. Heurtel
28:14
6
1/425%
0/0-%
1/425%
3/3100%
0
2
2
4
3
3
0
0
7
6


6

A. Diot
07:07
0
0/20%

0/10%
0/10%
0/0-%
1
1
2
2
0
0
0
0
-6
2


7

J. Lauvergne
16:38
13
6/11 54.5%

5/9 55.6%

1/2 50%

0/0-%
6
1
7
1
2
2
0
0
-14
14


10
*E. Fournier
31:21
27
10/1758.8%
7/977.8%
3/837.5%
4/580%
1
2
3
2
1
2
4
0
-5
26


12
*N. De Colo
25:35
6
3/1127.3%
3/742.9%
0/40%
0/0-%
0
2
2
4
3
1
1
0
3
4


13
*B. Diaw(C)
31:53
15
6/875%
3/560%
3/3100%
0/0-%
1
8
9
5
2
2
0
1
4
26


15
L. Westermann
04:39
2
1/1100%
1/1100%
0/0-%
0/0-%
0
0
0
1
1
0
0
0
-4
3


17
V. Poirier

Did not play


25
L. Labeyrie
11:22
1
0/20%
0/10%
0/10%
1/250%
1
1
2
0
4
0
0
0
-2
0


33
A. Toupane
13:34
3
1/250%
1/1100%
0/10%
1/1100%
0
2
2
0
2
1
0
0
0
3


91
E. Jackson
09:32
2
1/425%
1/250%
0/20%
0/0-%
0
1
1
2
1
0
0
0
-4
2


Team/Coaches






2
0
2

0
1






TOTALS

200
81
32/6747.8%
24/4158.5%
8/2630.8%
9/1181.8%
14
25
39
21
21
13
5
1
-3
96









http://www.fiba.basketball/eurobasket/2017/0909/Germany-France#tab=boxscore_statistics

[jyra]

Germany pulls of the upset against France. Just got hot from 3 at the right time but almost managed to choke the game away down the stretch.

Lauvergne did some damage offensively but did not play that many minutes due to his defense. Boris had a decent scoring game but looked absolutely done on the defensive end giving up easy drives all game long. Nando pulled a Batum by completely disappearing down the stretch. Fournier single-handedly carried them in the last quarter with 16 points.

Theis seems to be a decent player, reminds me of JaMychal Green.

[SAGirl]

Thanks for sharing Jyra. I watched the highlights and Diaw has reached elephant status. :lol

Its too much for Franc to overcome the combination of bad defense and DeColo having a bad game.

Its too bad Lauvergne was such a defensive liability that France couldn't spare him more minutes. I don't expect much from him this season so he might surprise me. I prefer that version than getting hyped up and then disappointed...

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gvxPpYcgBA

[SAGirl]

I didn't know this but per FIBA, it's the first time in 20 years that France is going to miss quarterfinals.

[sasaint]

Thanks for sharing Jyra. I watched the highlights and Diaw has reached elephant status. :lol

Its too much for Franc to overcome the combination of bad defense and DeColo having a bad game.

Its too bad Lauvergne was such a defensive liability that France couldn't spare him more minutes. I don't expect much from him this season so he might surprise me. I prefer that version than getting hyped up and then disappointed...

If Lauvergne gets minutes slashed in Europe because of his defensive deficiencies, how will he ever be a third "big" for the Spurs? This truly is shaping up to be a horrific off-season for the Spurs. I have been holding my tongue and waiting to see the team on the court before rushing to judgment. I am not as eager for the start of the season as I am apprehensive.

[TimDunkem]

If Lauvergne gets minutes slashed in Europe because of his defensive deficiencies, how will he ever be a third "big" for the Spurs? This truly is shaping up to be a horrific off-season for the Spurs. I have been holding my tongue and waiting to see the team on the court before rushing to judgment. I am not as eager for the start of the season as I am apprehensive.
Been calling it all off-season: The Spurs inside defense is going to give up tons of buckets this year. It's going to be a layup line.

[jyra]

Hungary gets eliminated by Serbia with Hanga only scoring 1 point. Not sure if he had some physical issues but he watched the whole 4th quarter from the bench.

[DAF86]

Hungary gets eliminated by Serbia with Hanga only scoring 1 point. Not sure if he had some physical issues but he watched the whole 4th quarter from the bench.

I think it was just because the lineup they had in the 4th had brought them back into the game.

[DAF86]

P/S: lol at the most recent Spur saviour scoring just 1 point in a do or die match. :lol

[dabom]

dabom (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=47543)

If only porker could get a medal. and I'm not talking about some regional tournament. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Doncic is for real. :wow

[TimDunkem]

Bertans making multiple stupid fouls down the stretch, gifting Slovenia 4 points in crunch time. :lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Bertans played well, but Slovenia are better and were helped a bit with free throws, especially in the first half.

[jyra]

The essential Bertans performance, 23 points on 6/14 from 3 and only 1 rebound.

[smaka]

Bertans played well, but Slovenia are better and were helped a bit with free throws, especially in the first half.

Come on bro, if you watched the game, Latvia played with 5 players and 3 refs. Porzingis could've fouled out in 1st half if the refs were correct. And so many doubtful decisions went in Latvia's favor especially in 2nd and 4th quarter. Gifted fouls, technicals, etc.


The essential Bertans performance, 23 points on 6/14 from 3 and only 1 rebound.

+ Almost killed Dragic with that nasty elbow. Not a foul, according to the refs.

I hope NBA scouts watched the game. Everyone will be tanking for Doncic next year.

[SPURt]

If Doncic becomes a Spur this will be my avatar

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/WE_i9Z8WdORXOLj5dre2uLYXc5M=/0x0:1833x1059/1200x800/filters:focal(726x38:1018x330)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/51281495/luka-doncic.0.jpg

[TheGreatYacht]

This is Google's official pic for Bourousis btb:

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000703793653/cd8c1b523534e6b88a6df7afe8dd07f5_400x400.jpeg

Has nothing to do with the Spurs (unfortunately), but I just happened to see it when spell-checking Ioannis' name.
Holy crap. Keep this bobblehead away from SAGirl

[TheGreatYacht]

Doncic, the next Hezonja

[TimDunkem]

Holy crap. Keep this bobblehead away from SAGirl
:lmao :lmao :lmao

[Texas_Ranger]

Doncic, the next Hezonja

lol good one. :rollin

[ata]

P-_3IP_2YPY

[Brazil]

:lol no Parker no cookie tbh...

[TimDunkem]

Well, Spain is done and MVPau looked gassed by the middle of the third. :lol

Jesus...Can't wait until playoff time and he's huffing and puffing down the court airballing layups again. You can count on that. I mean, this is a guy who sat out a ton of games last year and still didn't have enough in the tank to make any sort of meaningful impact by the WCF.

[TimDunkem]

Also lol @ Marc's inability to stay out of foul trouble in big games. Keep throwing those elbows, bro'. :lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Great game by Slovenia, totally dominated throughout. Congrats to our Slovenian posters. Hope they win the final.

[Ozzy]

Does anybody know if Popovich is still at Eurobasket? Or did he return to the US already?

[smaka]

I'm very impressed and happy for our team. Can't remember the last time Spain got beaten by 20 points, by European team.

On the other hand, very unhappy that Pau has a 3 year contract with Spurs...

[TimDunkem]

On the other hand, very unhappy that Pau has a 3 year contract with Spurs...
But, but, but he's a great trade chip now! Yeah, we were supposed to have flexibility for this summer and the next, but at least we have a corpse to trade in two years for a game changer!

[Texas_Ranger]

I'm very impressed and happy for our team. Can't remember the last time Spain got beaten by 20 points, by European team.

On the other hand, very unhappy that Pau has a 3 year contract with Spurs...


:bang

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm very impressed and happy for our team. Can't remember the last time Spain got beaten by 20 points, by European team.

On the other hand, very unhappy that Pau has a 3 year contract with Spurs...
RC Buford playing go fish while everyone plays Poker. Always behind of the curve

[Raven]

Doncic, the next Hezonja

they are about on opposite sides, from the mental standpoint..

[DrSteffo]

Pau Gasol is very impressive for his age. Props to him.

[bdictjames]

I know this isn't relevant.. but it does have European players, and our once own Boris Diaw... his back to the future video with Evan Fournier. Apparently they made a video when they were younger! Check it out:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtgQsNXd-so

[TimDunkem]

Gaspar fucking Vidmar owning Spurs centers left and right. First he kills Pau and now dunking on Boban. :lol

[FrankieS]

Eurobasket All Star Team:


Goran Dragic (MVP)
Alexey Shved
Bogdan Bogdanovic
Luka Doncic
Pau Gasol

Pau Gasol still the best big in Europe. He shows always a lot of heart and character in national team games...

[velik_m]

:king