Pacers files charges against Lakers for tampering with Paul George

[StrengthAndHonor]

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Ruh-roh

[StrengthAndHonor]

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[StrengthAndHonor]

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[StrengthAndHonor]

This is a serious accusation being harbored against the franchise and if it is proven that they had illegal contact with him, there will be serious consequences which could included forfeiting draft picks or not being allowed to sign George once he does become a free agent.


This is not the kind of news the organization hoped to be making this off-season, but this investigation will be worth watching extremely closely until everything is solved and a finding is revealed. The Lakers’ free agency plans could be squashed before they ever were able to put anything in motion if there turns out to have been some foul play this summer.

[Chris]

Bird getting the last laugh :lmao

[marinoman]

So if guilty lakers could lose draft picks and even be forbidden to sign George
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2728453-pacers-reportedly-filing-charges-against-lakers-for-tampering-with-paul-george

[Robz4000]

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

Can Earvin not do a real wink?

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Holy shit... Magic might actually turn out to be worse than Doc Rivers as a GM when it's all said and done.

[Thread]

This is a serious accusation being harbored against the franchise and if it is proven that they had illegal contact with him, there will be serious consequences which could included forfeiting draft picks or not being allowed to sign George once he does become a free agent.


This is not the kind of news the organization hoped to be making this off-season, but this investigation will be worth watching extremely closely until everything is solved and a finding is revealed. The Lakers’ free agency plans could be squashed before they ever were able to put anything in motion if there turns out to have been some foul play this summer.

I heartily vote for that "punishment."

[SpurOutofTownFan]

This is a serious accusation being harbored against the franchise and if it is proven that they had illegal contact with him, there will be serious consequences which could included forfeiting draft picks or not being allowed to sign George once he does become a free agent.


This is not the kind of news the organization hoped to be making this off-season, but this investigation will be worth watching extremely closely until everything is solved and a finding is revealed. The Lakers’ free agency plans could be squashed before they ever were able to put anything in motion if there turns out to have been some foul play this summer.

If this is true it will set a precedent for other teams for sure

[Canyonero]

As punishment they get Mozgov back.

[Fabbs]

I'm sure Stern Jr. will run a thorough investigation.

[illmatic]

If the NBA finds they were tampering, the Lakers will have to forfeit multiple draft picks..:lol

[Killakobe81]

pacers just butthurt no smoking gun ...
Sure, we might not get George ...
but i agree with Cully not sold on paying him max $ anyways ...
draft picks might be an issue ...but let it play out.

[Fabbs]

Will be nice if Cuban and the owners do a repeat and force Stern Jr. into a real investigation like their CP0 bullshit in New Orleans.

[Killakobe81]

most likely outcome is a fine.

[lefty]

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[ambchang]

Lakers didn't get any penalties for what they did to get a generational star like shaq. They aren't getting anything for tampering with some two bit player like George.

[Killakobe81]

Lakers didn't get any penalties for what they did to get a generational star like shaq. They aren't getting anything for tampering with some two bit player like George.

im glad you dont overrate him either ...
Laker fans are delusional.
if we get PG we will still be alsorans without LeBron ..
PG is no franchise saviour ...and until we develop one or buy one signing PG dont mean dick ...
btw if we lose a pick tampering for a star but not a super one ...
We may deserve it ...

[baseline bum]

As punishment they get Mozgov back.

And Fredo too

[Spurtacular]

I'm sure Stern Jr. will run a thorough investigation.

I have full faith that Silverstein will take care of this.

[UZER]

:lol Leagues always go after current irrelevant teams when they dish out punishments like this.

But the Warriors can talk to a player during a series, tell him to tank the series against them, then sign the player that summer.

[Down Under]

:lmao Holy shit... Magic might actually turn out to be worse than Doc Rivers as a GM when it's all said and done.
We've all seen the tweets

[djohn2oo8]

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[DMC]

Magic again can't keep his hands off other guys per the usual :lol


Buddy :lol

Cedric :lol

[DMC]

most likely outcome is a fine how-do-you-do.

fyi

[FkLA]

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:lmao

[hater]

Paul George is a poor mans Kawhi.

Given that Kawhi can barely take his team past round 2. Why is this even threadworthy?

Let the scrub be a laker imo. Wont change a damn thing

[Fabbs]

Paul George is a poor mans Kawhi.

Given that Kawhi can barely take his team past round 2. Why is this even threadworthy?

Let the scrub be a laker imo. Wont change a damn thing
Paired with a top 5 player like Kawhi or Lebron, George could make a decent 2nd or 3rd option like Kirby was Shaq or GNob with Duncan.
Now is George anywhere near as good as prime GNob? Hell no. He probably not even as good as Prime Kirby.
But he could contribute if he had one Top 5 and another player of legit All Star level on the team.
So it is relevant.

[LkrFan]

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/magic.gif

:lmao

[namlook]

If the NBA finds they were tampering, the Lakers will have to forfeit multiple draft picks..:lol

Not will have to, but may have to. That's one of the options but it's not a required disposition to a finding of tampering. It could simply result in a fine. Or perhaps suspension of the individual(s) involved. The NBA has never aggressively enforced tampering rules so unless it was really blatant like money or financial incentives were discussed it's not likely much will come of this investigation. Without a paper trail the most it will likely be is a fine.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Not will have to, but may have to. That's one of the options but it's not a required disposition to a finding of tampering. It could simply result in a fine. Or perhaps suspension of the individual(s) involved. The NBA has never aggressively enforced tampering rules so unless it was really blatant like money or financial incentives were discussed it's not likely much will come of this investigation. Without a paper trail the most it will likely be is a fine.
You don't have to worry about lottery picks anyway. The Lakers found a gem in Lonzo and Ingram has undeniably Superstar potential. I would trade Blake Griffin for both, in a heartbeat. But that's just me.

[Killakobe81]

Paul George is a poor mans Kawhi.

Given that Kawhi can barely take his team past round 2. Why is this even threadworthy?

Let the scrub be a laker imo. Wont change a damn thing

exactly he a homeless man Kiwi tbh ...
he helps us cuz we suck but he cant save the Lakers ...and would br overpaid at the max

[Killakobe81]

Paired with a top 5 player like Kawhi or Lebron, George could make a decent 2nd or 3rd option like Kirby was Shaq or GNob with Duncan.
Now is George anywhere near as good as prime GNob? Hell no. He probably not even as good as Prime Kirby.
But he could contribute if he had one Top 5 and another player of legit All Star level on the team.
So it is relevant.

:lmao so much fail ....except the fact PG is, overrated

[StrengthAndHonor]

exactly he a homeless man Kiwi tbh ...
he helps us cuz we suck but he cant save the Lakers ...and would br overpaid at the max
Come on, Paul George is a max player. Stop with the nonsense.

[Killakobe81]

Come on, Paul George is a max player. Stop with the nonsense.

in your book not mine ...i wouldbt have even paid Blake dat at this point tbh ...
but my bar is high ...i would have not paid conly, hayward aldgridge etc max either

[Clipper Nation]

You don't have to worry about lottery picks anyway. The Lakers found a gem in Lonzo and Ingram has undeniably Superstar potential. I would trade Blake Griffin for both, in a heartbeat. But that's just me.
:lmao Just admit you're a Laker fan already, it's real obvious.

[dbreiden83080]

Magic always think he can say anything as long as he plasters that goofy ass smile on, and uses that fake ass laugh.

[StrengthAndHonor]

:lmao Just admit you're a Laker fan already, it's real obvious.
But I'm not though. There was a time when I rooted for Kobe. I still supported my Clippers when we're missing the playoffs year in and out.


I just happen to be a fan of Lonzo even before he was drafted by the Lakers. Anyway, I'll forever be a Clipper fan. #Realtalk

[StrengthAndHonor]

in your book not mine ...i wouldbt have even paid Blake dat at this point tbh ...
but my bar is high ...i would have not paid conly, hayward aldgridge etc max either
It has nothing to do with your imaginary book or mine. There's this thing caled salary cap and it's structure under the current CBA.

Paul George is a max player.

[baseline bum]

Not will have to, but may have to. That's one of the options but it's not a required disposition to a finding of tampering. It could simply result in a fine. Or perhaps suspension of the individual(s) involved. The NBA has never aggressively enforced tampering rules so unless it was really blatant like money or financial incentives were discussed it's not likely much will come of this investigation. Without a paper trail the most it will likely be is a fine.

Yeah this is almost certainly going to amount to nothing. It's not like when Joe Smith signed three below market value one year deals with the TWolves so they could get Bird Rights and then his representation split at just the right time so that you had two agents each demanding their full cut of the big money deal he finally signed in Minnesota.

[Fabbs]

:lmao so much fail ....
I agree.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240111&highlight=All+Time+Bricker

[Killakobe81]

It has nothing to do with your imaginary book or mine. There's this thing caled salary cap and it's structure under the current CBA.

Paul George is a max player.

igaf S&H ..you know you cool with me ....
but i just never will agree with paying injury prone cats,like Blake or Parsons
borderline allstars like Conley or hayward or wrong side of 30 stars with heavy mileage like Aldridge, Chris Paul etc

Westbrook durant steph wall harden kiwi ant davis greek freak andvof course Lebron can take all of my money.
i would give them whatever ...they wanted.
but these pseudo stars who are at best 2nd options on a contender but probably a third option on a title team can get max $ elsewhere.
sure in this CBA you are right they are paid like max players but the return is shit ...
parsons, dwight, greg monroe, Aldridge melo all got max with diminishing returns.
its a hype move that dont mean dick ...
You cant win a title with any of them as your #2 let alone a #1
i said this for 3 straight years and only Leonard and To a lessor degree harden has proved me wrong ...
i repeat paying non franchise players max money is a fucking mistake ...
And dont even get me started on Otto Porter ...

[RsxPiimp]

considering the faux friendship between bird and magic, im willing to bet larry urged ownership to file that tampering charge. you can tell bird is put on a position to like magic. :lol

[BoricuaCJA]

Yeah this is almost certainly going to amount to nothing. It's not like when Joe Smith signed three below market value one year deals with the TWolves so they could get Bird Rights and then his representation split at just the right time so that you had two agents each demanding their full cut of the big money deal he finally signed in Minnesota.
I wonder if namlook gets the sarcasm here. lol That really screwed the Timberwolves and affected them from acquiring more talent to help with KG those years. Kevin Mchale thought he was smart but they lost over 3 million $ and 3 1st rd draft picks in 01, 02, 04 if I remember correctly b/c of that.

[StrengthAndHonor]

The Los Angeles Lakers have been fined $500,000 by the NBA for violating the league's anti-tampering rule on Paul George.
The conduct at issue involved communications by Rob Pelinka with the agent representing Paul George that constituted a prohibited expression of interest in the player while he was under contract. The penalty reflected a previous warning issued by the NBA to the Lakers regarding tampering, following comments made by Lakers President of Basketball Operations Earvin Johnson about Paul George during an April 20 national television appearance.
The investigation did not reveal evidence of an agreement or understanding that the Lakers would sign or acquire Mr. George.
The NBA’s anti-tampering rule prohibits teams from interfering with other teams’ contractual relationships with NBA players, including by publicly expressing interest in a player who is currently under contract with another team or informing the agent of another team’s player of interest by one’s own team in that player.

[Killakobe81]

most likely outcome is a fine.
Like I said ...

[Canyonero]

:lmao that "punishment"

[namlook]

I wonder if namlook gets the sarcasm here. lol That really screwed the Timberwolves and affected them from acquiring more talent to help with KG those years. Kevin Mchale thought he was smart but they lost over 3 million $ and 3 1st rd draft picks in 01, 02, 04 if I remember correctly b/c of that.

The Joe Smith scenario was in a totally different universe when it comes to violating the rules. The Lakers/George situation is nothing even close to that and the end result of a fine is consistent with what I said which was the most it will amount to is a fine given what we know about what transpired.

[whitemamba]

:lol 500k

[Dex]

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[ambchang]

Thread, get your chickenshit ass in here and talk about how the league is out to get the lakers.

Nothing for Shaq.
$500k for publicly announcing tampering with george.
All the while the wolves got their entire future destroyed by tampering with Joe smith.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Thread (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=19320), get your chickenshit ass in here and talk about how the league is out to get the lakers.

Nothing for Shaq.
$500k for publicly announcing tampering with george.
All the while the wolves got their entire future destroyed by tampe I got with Joe smith.
You can't compare the Joe Smith situation with this though.

[ambchang]

You can't compare the Joe Smith situation with this though.

You can't compare any situations with having 20+ fta advantage in three elimination games over 10 years either. Especially when all of them led to a ring.

:lol Lakers.

[Thebesteva]

League is always out to get the Lakers. First CP3 now this. It's ok...the inevitable chip is looming

[daslicer]

League is always out to get the Lakers. First CP3 now this. It's ok...the inevitable chip is looming

If you use game sliders then it's inevitable that the Lakers will win the title on 2K.

[StrengthAndHonor]

You can't compare any situations with having 20+ fta advantage in three elimination games over 10 years either. Especially when all of them led to a ring.

:lol Lakers.
So, you admit you're wrong. Cool.

[Fabbs]

Faggot league protecting it's faggy franchise.

[ambchang]

So, you admit you're wrong. Cool.

No you idiot. Getting a Joe smith and losing what the wolves did is nowhere close to openly tampering with one of the top 15 players I. The league and getting fined what is less than minimum wage for a rookie.

The league fines the lakers now so that if the lakers get paul george next year they can say "sorry old, we already fined them last year, can't find them twice for the same infraction tough luck."

Get your purple and piss coloured glasses off and try to be objective for once, "clipper" fan

[Thread]

Too damn bad we weren't barred from George.

[Fabbs]

Too damn bad we weren't barred from George.
Can you imagine if AIDs signs him and then George seriously injures his leg again?
:lmao
http://static.celebuzz.com/uploads/2016/01/ej-johnson-01-23-2015-6-373x560.jpg

[Thread]

Can you imagine if AIDs signs him and then George seriously injures his leg again?
:lmao
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Even at healthy he's a loser.

[Killakobe81]

Even at healthy he's a loser.

we may not agree on Trump but we lock and step on this one ...I wont say he is a loser at his current price but at a max contract he will be vastly overpaid ...and overrated ...of course he can help us because we are not very good. but paying PG the max is like paying Aldridge the max and we dont have Kiwi to carry his ass either.
if he takes a reasonable hometown discount say $18 mil i would be all in. but i dont trust his health and his best days will have been spent with Indy and okc ...thanks, but no thanks.

[MultiTroll]

we may not agree on Trump but we lock and step on this one ...I wont say he is a loser at his current price but at a max contract he will be vastly overpaid ...and overrated ...of course he can help us because we are not very good. but paying PG the max is like paying Aldridge the max and we dont have Kiwi to carry his ass either.
if he takes a reasonable honetown discount i would be all in. but i dont trust his health and his best days will have been spent with Indy and okc ...thanks, but no thanks.
Lakers need to go All In on Lebron and Westbrook.
Cousins / Westbrook.

Something like that.

[Killakobe81]

Lakers need to go All In on Lebron and Westbrook.
Cousins / Westbrook.

Something like that.

fair point thing is ...
amb was right about one thing ...it is like Joe Smith based on the player being tampered with beung wildly overrated ...
The rest is just bullshit
Anyone expecting Lakers to get hit with more than a fine ...havent been paying attention.
Based on his tweets i had my concerns about Magic and to a lessor extent Pelinka.
but so far they hace drafted well and shedded mozgofs contract. overpaid to get KCP for one year ...
but better than the contracts mitch gave Deng or Timofey.
yall wanna see Magic fail ...but he wont ..or at least hasnt so far ...

[Thread]

Lakers need to go All In on Lebron and Westbrook.
Cousins / Westbrook.

Something like that.

I'd do Westbrook in a heart beat. But, LeBron is a pain-in-the-ass we don't need & Cousins is a loser.

But like Trump didn't get to play with Putin, we ain't gonna get to play with Westbrook. (They) won't let either coupling occur.

[StrengthAndHonor]

No you idiot. Getting a Joe smith and losing what the wolves did is nowhere close to openly tampering with one of the top 15 players I. The league and getting fined what is less than minimum wage for a rookie.

The league fines the lakers now so that if the lakers get paul george next year they can say "sorry old, we already fined them last year, can't find them twice for the same infraction tough luck."

Get your purple and piss coloured glasses off and try to be objective for once, "clipper" fan


It's obvious you suffer from mental retardation and your take on this situation is proof of that.

[ambchang]

It's obvious you suffer from mental retardation and your take on this situation is proof of that.

You have certainly shown your intellectual superiority with your concise and convincing arguments.

Sure the Wolves signed an illegal under the table contract, but 5 draft picks, millions of dollars, suspension of the owner and McHale on indefinitely leave?

The Heat tampered with Riley in 1995, a coach, and was handed a $1M fine and lost a draft pick. That is a freaking COACH.

[Ice009]

So what happens if Westbrook and Lebron want to come, do you kick Paul George to the curb?

[MultiTroll]

So what happens if Westbrook and Lebron want to come, do you kick Paul George to the curb?
Instantaneously.
Unless he'll take the salary he deserves, in this case 3rd option with below average D.

[Chris]

Magic always think he can say anything as long as he plasters that goofy ass smile on, and uses that fake ass laugh.

He likes it up the butt :lol

[RsxPiimp]

You have certainly shown your intellectual superiority with your concise and convincing arguments.

Sure the Wolves signed an illegal under the table contract, but 5 draft picks, millions of dollars, suspension of the owner and McHale on indefinitely leave?

The Heat tampered with Riley in 1995, a coach, and was handed a $1M fine and lost a draft pick. That is a freaking COACH.

:lmao amazing how you can call someone out here though. you have to be really dumb or just plain stupid to even bring up the bizarre joe smith or even the pat riley saga :lmao




:lmao

[ambchang]

:lmao amazing how you can call someone out here though. you have to be really dumb or just plain stupid to even bring up the bizarre joe smith or even the pat riley saga :lmao




:lmao

Great points. Both of them were tampering, both were handed out severe punishments. Yes, really dumb to compare them to what the lakers got because we all know the lakers have a different set of rules.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Great points. Both of them were tampering, both were handed out severe punishments. Yes, really dumb to compare them to what the lakers got because we all know the lakers have a different set of rules.
Listen here dimwit. Your argument essentially boil down to " Magic went on a late night TV show and winked" It's time to admit you're clueless and just move on.



The leagues tampering rules are not only archaic but is difficult to enforce. These investigations largely go nowhere in the NBA. The only time a salacious tampering in recent memory proven true was Smith, simply because the league found concrete proof (paper trails).

[ambchang]

Listen here dimwit. Your argument essentially boil down to " Magic went on a late night TV show and winked" It's time to admit you're clueless and just move on.



The leagues tampering rules are not only archaic but is difficult to enforce. These investigations largely go nowhere in the NBA. The only time a salacious tampering in recent memory proven true was Smith, simply because the league found concrete proof (paper trails).









And yet Miami with Pat Riley led to fines and a draft pick.

The rules are clear, front office cannot express interest in players who are under contract with another team. Magic did that on TV.

[Ice009]

What a pathetic fine. It should have been at least 1M dollars to Magic Johnson and another 1M to the Lakers organization. I know that is chump change to both, but at least it will make other teams think twice about it.