Was the civil war really fought over slavery?

[Big Empty]

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[Thread]

No. Money. Like ALL wars.

[boutons_deux]

If article is from the Confederacy / KKK / white nationalists /racists, the cause was the Morrill Tariff, in an attempt to obscure their knitter-hating and absolve the Confederacy of protecting slavery.

If the article is from elsewhere, the prime cause was abolition.

This appears to be confirmed in the each state's Articles of Secession, which all protect slavery, with little mention of tariffs.

This article

http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/158670

... points out that if the slave states had not started seceding, their Senators would have been able to vote down the Morrill Tariff.

The article also points out that "tariffs caused the war" was a myth pushed by the "free trading" Brits who would have seen the USA market for British exports harmed by the tariffs.

btw, you KKK / Nazi people here have a champion for your cause:

Katrina Pierson Calls Slavery ‘Good’ in Hilariously Awful Attempt to Defend Trump

http://www.thedailybeast.com/katrina-pierson-calls-slavery-good-in-hilariously-awful-attempt-to-defend-trump

btw, Pierson is half black.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

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And if the nonslaveowners had no interest in the oppression of africans then what was segregation all about?

[DarrinS]

Yes

[Killakobe81]

it was about States Rights
But slavery which was a key tool of the business/economics ie money of the South was the flashpoint states right issue ...

[RandomGuy]

it was about States Rights
But slavery which was a key tool of the business/economics ie money of the South was the flashpoint states right issue ...

Read the declarations of the four states that issued them for the South.

They lay out the reasons pretty clearly.

[cd021]

yes.

[spurraider21]

it was about States Rights
But slavery which was a key tool of the business/economics ie money of the South was the flashpoint states right issue ...
Specifically it was about states rights to practice slavery

[lebomb]

Can you imagine Massa Jeffussin tryin to get a nigga to pick cotton in 2017? Ohhhhhhhhh LAWD!!!! :lmao

[Spurminator]

I'm willing to humor an argument that even if slavery was outlawed in all of the states, the South may still have eventually seceded based on other perceived intrusions by the Federal government. Unfortunately for the Confederacy, slavery was the sword they chose to die on.

[Spurtacular]

No mention of slavery in NC's secession document.

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20770270_598081190582288_4469574122182142272_n.jpg ?oh=9a1ae9044376fcb9a6a53798c033e0c2&oe=5A20CFCF

[Pavlov]

No mention of slavery in NC's secession document.

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20770270_598081190582288_4469574122182142272_n.jpg ?oh=9a1ae9044376fcb9a6a53798c033e0c2&oe=5A20CFCFDid the document state any reason for secession?

[Spurminator]

North Carolina was the last Southern state to join the Confederacy. William Boyd's (1879-1938) North Carolina on the Eve of Secession (http://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/boydw/menu.html) (1912) discusses the factors and events that led the state to secede from the Union. These factors included social structure, intra-state sectionalism, and industrial organization, in addition to the influence of national debates over slavery and states' rights.

As the national debate over slavery heated up with the Compromise of 1850, the state's political parties began to factionalize, and North Carolina legislators debated secession. When the 1851 Congressional election's campaign platforms brought the issue to the people, however, pro-secession candidates were defeated soundly. Nevertheless, Boyd labels these candidates "a strong, active States-rights minority" of "extremists" that survived by feeding off of the state's "radical spirit," which until 1861 steadily intensified, manifesting itself in increasing arrests of abolitionists and public violence against Republicans (p. 172 (http://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/boydw/boydw.html#p172)).

http://docsouth.unc.edu/highlights/secession.html

[AaronY]

Yet another subject Spurtacular is stupid on

[Ray Combs]

Yet another subject Spurtacular is stupid on

[RandomGuy]

yes.

Easy peasy.

:tu

[RandomGuy]

No mention of slavery in NC's secession document.

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20770270_598081190582288_4469574122182142272_n.jpg ?oh=9a1ae9044376fcb9a6a53798c033e0c2&oe=5A20CFCF

They don't give any reason at all. Several of the ordinances don't, nor were they meant to.

The declarations penned by four states were crystal clear though.

[boutons_deux]

other perceived intrusions by the Federal government

the wealth of the South's 1% was in cotton and tobacco, both crops tended by slaves as domestic animals.

"perceived" as opposed to "real"?

what were these other perceptions?

[Spurminator]

"perceived" as opposed to "real"?

what were these other perceptions?

Perceived as in perceived.