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hater
08-25-2017, 07:18 PM
Lots of my homies and familia still coming in niggas

But still respect Trumps decision to pardon Arpaio.

Although that old piece of dogshit is a foul subhuman, Trumps pardon move was a no brainer

He will gain lots of love from his redneck ignorant base. They will lve him for it. And he will not lose too much due to that move

It was a chess move. A no brainer move to survive the media onslaught

I hate Arpaio and hope the old man kicks it in the next few days

But Trumps move was a chessmaster no brainer

:lmao cnn

:lmao democrats

They wont know how to react to it

ducks
08-25-2017, 07:28 PM
Joe was very popular in az tell a year ago

ducks
08-25-2017, 07:29 PM
It was a political move by former president and his hope of getting Latino vote why they went after joe

spurraider21
08-25-2017, 07:30 PM
It was a political move by former president and his hope of getting Latino vote
Obama convicted Arapaio?

baseline bum
08-25-2017, 07:57 PM
.

AaronY
08-25-2017, 08:00 PM
I see your point there

Thread
08-25-2017, 08:00 PM
Just like that.

AaronY
08-25-2017, 08:00 PM
Say what you will but I think this baseline bum dudes been making some real good points lately

baseline bum
08-25-2017, 08:01 PM
I see your point there

Saw it on CNN while checking channels for hurricane coverage but didn't want to link a fake news source tbh.

Thread
08-25-2017, 08:03 PM
Take that, wets.

AaronY
08-25-2017, 08:03 PM
Lol I wonder if this hurts him. DoK says Arpaio is unpopular even among Republicans in Arizona

baseline bum
08-25-2017, 08:04 PM
Just like that.

Only pussies and assholes create duplicate threads

Thread
08-25-2017, 08:05 PM
Took that knife & stuck it right in their eye.

baseline bum
08-25-2017, 08:06 PM
Took that knife & stuck it right in their eye.

I created the Arpaio thread first. Me

Thread
08-25-2017, 08:07 PM
897576105296769025 (https://twitter.com/Cub_Castleberry/status/897576105296769025)

Will Hunting
08-25-2017, 08:11 PM
Lol I wonder if this hurts him. DoK says Arpaio is unpopular even among Republicans in Arizona
I said he was unpopular in maricopa county (compared to when he used to win reelections there in a landslide) which is overwhelmingly Republican....the inbred nutcases like Cully/ducks still obviously love him but the educated conservatives who can actually speak polished english aren't fans.

Thread
08-25-2017, 08:11 PM
897576105296769025 (https://twitter.com/Cub_Castleberry/status/897576105296769025)

hater
08-25-2017, 08:16 PM
It was a political move by former president and his hope of getting Latino vote why they went after joe

This is bs

Obama was the deporter in chief

He hated mexicans and deported mire than any other president

Thread
08-25-2017, 08:16 PM
It was a political move by former president and his hope of getting Latino vote why they went after joe

I said this first. Me.

AaronY
08-25-2017, 08:22 PM
Trump only won by 3 points there last time. Maybe this hurts him but it's good for him he pardoned him so early since people might not care about this as much in 4 years

Thread
08-25-2017, 08:24 PM
897576105296769025 (https://twitter.com/Cub_Castleberry/status/897576105296769025)

AaronY
08-25-2017, 08:32 PM
You know it's really a cubby tweet because no one liked it

Thread
08-25-2017, 08:46 PM
You know it's really a cubby tweet because no one liked it

FOX & Friends Retweeted it though.

AaronY
08-25-2017, 09:14 PM
FOX & Friends Retweeted it though.

LOL you mean Fox and fiends. https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxnFiends

TimDunkem
08-25-2017, 09:22 PM
:lmao

Thread
08-25-2017, 09:27 PM
LOL you mean Fox and {{{fiends}}}. https://mobile.twitter.com/FoxnFiends

:rolleyes

Thread
08-25-2017, 09:37 PM
Joe Arpaio Thanks Trump for Pardon: 'Humbled and Incredibly Grateful'Culburn (https://disqus.com/by/pnmax-ca11bceb2f314f3354424122ccfc473f/) • in a few seconds (http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/joe-arpaio-pardon-thank-you-humble/2017/08/25/id/809902/#comment-3487367861)
No thanks necessary, Joe. We thank you, sir. You stood up & you soldiered here in Maricopa County until they knocked you out. But, Joe, whilst they were busy here taking you out, they left the rust belt open. And it was there that Trump mopped the f'in' floor with her f'in' a ss.
You're a hero, Joe. An American hero.
We'll never forget you and what you did down here, Joe!!!








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ducks
08-25-2017, 09:51 PM
Joe asked for a jury trial
They refused

ducks
08-25-2017, 09:52 PM
Biggs said in a statement that President Trump "brought justice to a situation where the Obama administration had attempted to destroy a political opponent.

"Sheriff Joe Arpaio made many enemies in the judicial system, the media, and the left because he enforced laws that the federal government ignored," the first-term Biggs said.

ducks
08-25-2017, 09:53 PM
"He asked for a jury trial," the fourth-term Gosar said. "From that standpoint, this was railroaded all the way through.

"When you talk about a justice system that was so negligent, the Obama administration set up Joe Arpaio on day one — and that's hardly an application of the rule of law.

Thread
08-25-2017, 09:53 PM
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Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe!!!!!!!!!
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ducks
08-25-2017, 09:56 PM
But two other Arizona GOP members of Congress, Reps. Paul Gosar and Rep. Andy Biggs, praised Trump's decision.

Gosar told John Berman on CNN that the president upheld the "rule of law" in pardoning Arpaio.

Thread
08-25-2017, 09:56 PM
Joe asked for a jury trial
They refused

Because they knew he'd win there. It would be Joe's peers, not a grab bag of Mexican dregs & homeless shits.

It's over. Over-Over. They can take that sentencing faze, and shove it up right their assholes.

Trump stood up here tonite.

hater
08-25-2017, 09:57 PM
I created the Arpaio thread first. Me

U missed my thread created 1 hour before your bro

U losing it

Thread
08-25-2017, 09:58 PM
U missed my thread created 1 hour before your bro

U losing it

hater was first.

monosylab1k
08-25-2017, 10:01 PM
You know it's really a cubby tweet because no one liked it

:lmao

Thread
08-25-2017, 10:02 PM
:lmao

Oh, yeah, just fuckin' hilarious.:rolleyes

ducks
08-25-2017, 10:06 PM
Obama pardoned violent drug dealers putting them back on the street, a tranny who leaked national security intelligence and five Taliban leaders back on the battlefield who killed American service men. Trump pardons the sheriff who enforced the law when the Obama administration order ICE to stand down.

Quadzilla99
08-25-2017, 10:08 PM
Because they knew he'd win there. It would be Joe's peers, not a grab bag of Mexican dregs & homeless shits.

It's over. Over-Over. They can take that sentencing faze, and shove it up right their assholes.

Trump stood up here tonite.

Is that why they pardoned him because he was going to win anyway?

Thread
08-25-2017, 10:08 PM
Obama pardoned violent drug dealers putting them back on the street, a tranny who leaked national security intelligence and five Taliban leaders back on the battlefield who killed American service men. Trump pardons the sheriff who enforced the law when the Obama administration order ICE to stand down.

Testify, ducks.

Tell it!!!!!!!!!

Thread
08-25-2017, 10:10 PM
Is that why they pardoned him because he was going to win anyway?

No. It was a guarantee for Joe & his wife, + a back handed slap to every SOB who didn't want it.

- "There are consequences to elections."

- Zero

You gd right, you foreign born fuck, you.

ducks
08-25-2017, 10:11 PM
Obama pardoned violent drug dealers putting them back on the street, a tranny who leaked national security intelligence and five Taliban leaders back on the battlefield who killed American service men. Trump pardons the sheriff who enforced the law when the Obama administration order ICE to stand down.

monosylab1k
08-25-2017, 10:11 PM
901249232031686657

Quadzilla99
08-25-2017, 10:12 PM
You sound like a really stupid person. He saved him from being fully exonerated and vindicated in the court of law according to you

ducks
08-25-2017, 10:13 PM
Obama pardoned 1920 people for offenses like treason, dealing hardcore drugs like meth and cocaine, thievery, & fraud. Trump pardoned an 85-year-old guy who fought hard to protect the U.S. against invaders pouring across the border in Mexico's undeclared war against the U.S. When it comes to the pardon power, Trump is doing a much better job with it than Obama did.

ducks
08-25-2017, 10:15 PM
Anyone with an OPEN MIND that looks into this.... would quickly realize how completely UNFAIR the case was process....and the LEFT-WING JUDGE (nominated by CLINTON) was HIGHLY BIASED against him. THANK GOD for the divine intersession of PRESIDENT TRUMP.

ducks
08-25-2017, 10:16 PM
At least this pardon won't lead to more murders like some of Obama's pardons have.

Thread
08-25-2017, 10:19 PM
You sound like a really stupid person. He saved him from being fully exonerated and vindicated in the court of law according to you

It's not about exoneration OR vindication.

It's about putting an end to this & denying mine enemies their onions.

"No." means No.

Thread
08-25-2017, 10:21 PM
Anyone with an OPEN MIND that looks into this.... would quickly realize how completely UNFAIR the case was process....and the LEFT-WING JUDGE (nominated by CLINTON) was HIGHLY BIASED against him. THANK GOD for the divine intersession of PRESIDENT TRUMP.

I thought he was going to waffle and founder, but, he stood up tonite.

Joe wins!!!

Quadzilla99
08-25-2017, 10:23 PM
Holy Shit this fucking thread:

https://mobile.twitter.com/phoenixnewtimes/status/901263384087334914

ElNono
08-25-2017, 10:24 PM
OP with the cuck goods...

Clipper Nation
08-25-2017, 10:53 PM
This is bs

Obama was the deporter in chief

He hated mexicans and deported mire than any other president
Please. Obama was weak on immigration. He just redefined what "deportation" meant in order to make him look tougher on illegal immigration on paper.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html

Chris
08-25-2017, 10:55 PM
I thought he was going to waffle and founder, but, he stood up tonite.

Joe wins!!!

Yup and everyone round these parts was vilifying Trump for not doing the pardon sooner. Trump shut their pie holes.

Trump

Chris
08-25-2017, 11:03 PM
You know it's really a cubby tweet because no one liked it

I see a like

FAKE NEWS

Thread
08-25-2017, 11:20 PM
Please. Obama was weak on immigration. He just redefined what "deportation" meant in order to make him look tougher on illegal immigration on paper.

Testify, CN.

Tell it!!!

Thread
08-25-2017, 11:21 PM
I see a like

FAKE NEWS

tee, hee.

hitmanyr2k
08-25-2017, 11:48 PM
Who cares? He'll most likely be dead soon anyway.

Pavlov
08-26-2017, 02:27 AM
lol Joe is a piece of shit.

Thread
08-26-2017, 02:41 AM
Who cares? He'll most likely be dead soon anyway.

Nonsense. McCain will be dead soon anyway too and I still care===savin' up my sputum.

Chris
08-26-2017, 03:22 AM
Joe

UNT Eagles 2016
08-26-2017, 05:47 AM
Ashley "Feinberg"... lol that last name sounds suspect... JEW!

boutons_deux
08-26-2017, 06:27 AM
lol Joe is a piece of shit.

a criminal piece of shit pardoned a criminal piece of shit

Obama was "lawless!" :lol

Thread
08-26-2017, 08:09 AM
a criminal piece of shit pardoned a criminal piece of shit

Obama was "lawless!" :lol

- "There are consequences to elections."

- Zero

You gd right, you foreign born fuck, you.

Thread
08-26-2017, 08:13 AM
Joe

Reck
08-26-2017, 08:23 AM
Congrats, Trump. You are now politically a corpse.

He'll never get more than the pathetic 35% he has.

Reck
08-26-2017, 08:27 AM
:lol Also using a natural occuring disaster to do his dirty work.

I'm sure this is not going to backfire at all..

Thread
08-26-2017, 08:39 AM
Joe

Spurminator
08-26-2017, 10:41 AM
Remember when people said Obama was divisive?

Good times.

boutons_deux
08-26-2017, 10:43 AM
Remember when people said Obama was divisive?

Good times.

Repugs said Obama was lawless, overreacher

Thread
08-26-2017, 12:19 PM
Remember when people said Obama was divisive?

Good times.

Yep. Like it was yesterday. & nobody gave a shit. Hussein went about his merry way because he was assured of U.S. Presidency. He could do what HE wanted, no matter what.

He was Martin's father if he had a father.

He tried to get that video of the Gentle Giant committing strong arm robbery minutes before he was dispatched to God suppressed because it meant they didn't have to go home in Ferguson, but, they had to get the hell out of there.

That video is akin to -BOTH SIDES- now.

Joe

Spurminator
08-26-2017, 01:00 PM
What's that? Can't hear you.

hater
08-26-2017, 01:03 PM
Please. Obama was weak on immigration. He just redefined what "deportation" meant in order to make him look tougher on illegal immigration on paper.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html

The. Why did immigration groups called him the deporter in chief??


His legacy is deporting poor families that only came here to work

boutons_deux
08-26-2017, 05:50 PM
Trump’s Arpaio Pardon Signals a Constitution in Crisis


The president is acting like a dictator.


Trump’s pardon is disturbing for a number of reasons.

The obvious one: Arpaio is an unapologetic racist

whose pardon proves that the president will assist political leaders in circumventing the law when it comes to racial discrimination.

Arpaio routinely abused people of color and did so over a period of many years, starting in the 1990s.

The president described Arpaio as merely getting into legal trouble for doing his job.

The idea that Trump perceives the routine, unlawful detainment of a racial minorities to be a basic part of policing should send a chill down Americans’ spines.

the scariest part of this pardon is the implication it has for the rule of law.

Trump used the pardon like a dictator, interfering in the sentencing of a criminal person

because that individual is a political ally.

Trump signalled that our nation of laws is crumbling and

its constitutional form of government is in crisis.

The resulting political system mirrors the authoritarian regimes we used to cite as our cautionary tales.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/trumps-arpaio-pardon-signals-constitution-crisis

SnakeBoy
08-26-2017, 05:59 PM
lol he pardoned someone of a misdemeanor Boo...you can relax.

Reck
08-26-2017, 06:08 PM
lol he pardoned someone of a misdemeanor Boo...you can relax.

Well that didn't take long for you to semen shield.

Pretend like this is normal. Also pretend like you wouldn't be besides yourself if Obama or Hillary would have done something like this. :lol

Pardons aren't supposed to be handed down without you actually serving time...or admitting guilt.

If you would just say you're a simple shill like Thread, you wouldn't be call on it so much. You're Darrins lite.

Pavlov
08-26-2017, 06:10 PM
Another vaunted Republican principle abandoned just cuz.

ducks
08-26-2017, 06:15 PM
But former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik supported Trump's pardon in a tweet that ripped McCain:

@SenJohnMcCain's statement is as politically motivated as was the prosecution against the sheriff in the first place! https://t.co/ZbwdfmdF4H

— Bernard B. Kerik (@BernardKerik) August 26, 2017

ducks
08-26-2017, 06:16 PM
But former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik supported Trump's pardon in a tweet that ripped McCain:

@SenJohnMcCain's statement is as politically motivated as was the prosecution against the sheriff in the first place! https://t.co/ZbwdfmdF4H

— Bernard B. Kerik (@BernardKerik) August 26, 2017

Reck
08-26-2017, 06:34 PM
Given that A, McCain is not up again until 2022 and B, the likelyhood of him not running again after his term is up and C, the fact that he is in a battle for his life right now are tell tale signs that his statement had nothing to do with being political.

AaronY
08-26-2017, 06:35 PM
But former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik supported Trump's pardon in a tweet that ripped McCain:

@SenJohnMcCain's statement is as politically motivated as was the prosecution against the sheriff in the first place! https://t.co/ZbwdfmdF4H

— Bernard B. Kerik (@BernardKerik) August 26, 2017
You really don't think Arpaio mistreated people or you just think they're scum who deserved to be mistreated?

boutons_deux
08-26-2017, 06:40 PM
Trump’s Arpaio Pardon Was An Impeachable Offense According To The Founding Fathers


According to the Founding Fathers, Trump's pardon of Joe Arpaio is an abuse of presidential pardoning power that is an impeachable offens

Writing for Bloomberg, Cass Sunstein (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-08/the-plain-answer-to-the-trump-pardon-question) examined the writings of the Founding Fathers on the president’s impeachment powers:

Gently, Madison pointed to “one security in this case to which gentlemen may not have adverted.”

The security was that “if the President be connected, in any suspicious manner, with any person, and

there be grounds to believe he will shelter him, the House of Representatives can impeach him; [and]

they can remove him if found guilty.”

In Madison’s view, “This is a great security.”….

More broadly, Madison urged that if the president was merely “connected, in any suspicious manner,” with someone who was engaged in wrongdoing, and

if he decided to “shelter” (meaning pardon) him, then the president could be impeached.


The president does have the power to pardon, but that power is not complete as Trump has suggested.

The Founding Fathers expressed the belief that a president can be impeached for abusing his pardoning power.

If Democrats take back the House, Trump’s pardon of Arpaio alone could be viewed as an impeachable offense.

Donald Trump doesn’t have the unlimited presidential power that he thinks he does.

His pardon of Arpaio was a disgrace to the presidency,

but the even bigger question which the courts may someday have to resolve is, does a president have complete impeachment power?

If the answer is no, Trump may have just pardoned his way into impeachment.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/08/26/founding-fathers-trump.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

Thread
08-26-2017, 06:44 PM
Joe

boutons_deux
08-26-2017, 06:45 PM
Trump’s Arpaio pardon will ‘encourage others’ to build concentration camps with his blessing

pardoning of former Sheriff Joe Arpaio is an endorsement of concentration camps in the United States

“Once Arpaio began neighborhood sweeps and traffic stops deliberately targeting Latinos, and

then detaining them without charges,

his whole enterprise tilted further toward being a concentration camp for that set of detainees,”

“And even for those who had been convicted of crimes, it was a harrowing, often deadly experience.”

“When it was just Arpaio and his deputies doing it, it was a freelance, loose-cannon operation.

What happened yesterday is that the President of the United States put his position behind it and used executive power to bless these tactics,”

“Historically, when this kind of thing has happened, it’s encouraged other people to take up the same tactics.”

“I think that Tent City has been very successful,” Arpaio told Fox 10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7KbMR4wb5o) in Phoenix during the 2016 election campaign.

“Why would four presidential candidates come down here and stand next to me and say they will put tents up around the nation.”
Arpaio thanked (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/thank-you-for-reaching-the-president-joe-arpaio-credits-alex-jones-for-potential-trump-pardon/) Alex Jones, Roger Stone and Matt Drudge for “reaching the president” to arrange the pardon.

Harvard Law professor Noah Feldman argued that the pardon was an impeachable offense (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/remedy-is-impeachment-harvard-law-prof-on-trump-pardoning-joe-arpaio/).

The Arizona Republic today editorialized (http://www.azcentral.com/story/opinion/editorial/2017/08/25/donald-trump-resurrects-joe-arpaio-irrelevance/604067001/) against Trump pardoning Arpaio.

“The pardon was a sign of pure contempt for every American who believes in justice, human dignity and the rule of law,” Republic concluded.

“By pardoning Arpaio,

Trump made it clear that institutional racism is not just OK with him.

It is a goal.

That should trouble every American who believes that our duty as a nation is to continue working on behalf of equal justice.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/trumps-arpaio-pardon-will-encourage-others-to-build-concentration-camps-with-his-blessing-historian/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Thread
08-26-2017, 06:45 PM
You really don't think Arpaio mistreated people or you just think they're scum who deserved to be mistreated?

The latter.

Thread
08-26-2017, 06:46 PM
Joe

AaronY
08-26-2017, 06:47 PM
The latter.
I was asking Ducks you piece of white trash. Go jerk off to a Timothy McVeigh poster

Thread
08-26-2017, 06:49 PM
I was asking Ducks you piece of white trash. Go jerk off to a Timothy McVeigh poster

McVeigh just squared the house. That way we could all be friends again.

ducks
08-26-2017, 07:31 PM
If people were treated in prison the way people should be they would be less crime. He had no repeat offenders. They broke the law now go to prison and earn money and watch tv. People knew in that country how he does things. You should visit Yuma territory priston. They were treated worse. And sometimes they saw no daylight. Oh no how did they survive? They cut down the crime.

benefactor
08-26-2017, 07:34 PM
If people were treated in prison the way people should be they would be less crime. He had no repeat offenders. They broke the law now go to prison and earn money and watch tv. People knew in that country how he does things. You should visit Yuma territory priston. They were treated worse. And sometimes they saw no daylight. Oh no how did they survive? They cut down the crime.
:wow...that sentence structure

Chris
08-26-2017, 08:00 PM
Joe

Spurminator
08-26-2017, 08:23 PM
lol he pardoned someone of a misdemeanor Boo...you can relax.

Are you on the Trump Cheerleader email list? How is it you're able to recite the talking points so quickly and accurately?

Reck
08-26-2017, 08:41 PM
Trump is a criminal.

Yet another case of obstruction of justice.

901592504193167360

AaronY
08-26-2017, 08:52 PM
Are you on the Trump Cheerleader email list? How is it you're able to recite the talking points so quickly and accurately?
Snakeboy is just trying to trigger the libtards IMO

Either that or he's just like this guy now:

901593840154497024

AaronY
08-26-2017, 08:53 PM
Lol I like this from in those replies. Pretty solid imo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDCYVJeUAAAHuTu.jpg

DMC
08-26-2017, 09:00 PM
It's never a good thing when a law enforcement officer becomes a celebrity, on the job.

Thread
08-26-2017, 09:05 PM
Joe

Chris
08-26-2017, 09:46 PM
Joe

boutons_deux
08-26-2017, 11:38 PM
Adam Schiff: Trump Telling Russia Witnesses to ‘Keep Quiet’ by Pardoning Arpaio


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/816361054699667458/0DVL6HrY_normal.jpgAdam Schiff (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff)
(https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff)✔@RepAdamSchiff (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff)

Arpaio action was appalling & political. It also sends message to witnesses in Russia investigation to keep quiet, stay loyal & get pardon.
3:32 PM - Aug 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/901542797924106240)

https://www.mediaite.com/online/adam-schiff-trump-telling-russia-witnesses-to-keep-quiet-by-pardoning-arpaio/

keep quiet?

How about "perjure yourself to protect me, get convicted, don't worry, save my criminal ass, I'll pardon everybody"

boutons_deux
08-26-2017, 11:46 PM
A Top Historian On Fascism Just Issued A Chilling Warning About Trump’s Arpaio Pardon

renowned author Charles Kaiser penned a brutal takedown (http://billmoyers.com/story/arpaio-pardon-may-opening-act-constitutional-crisis/#.WaGSaAFJbGM.facebook) of the President’s actions, calling them the “opening act of a constitutional crisis,” spelling out in no uncertain terms the challenge we’re now facing


By pardoning a man convicted of criminal contempt for direct violation of a Federal order, Trump is now flaunting his eagerness to overturn the rule of law in America.

I have never seen anyone who has acted more obviously guilty than Donald Trump has almost every single day since he became president.

From his tete-a-tete with James Comey, in which he asked the FBI director to end his investigation of Michael Flynn,

to his firing of the same man when he failed to heed that warning,

to his newly-reported phone call to North Carolina Senator Thom Tillis to complain about a bill that would protect special counsel Robert Mueller’s independence,

the president has engaged in one blatant attempt to obstruct justice after another.

Kasier reveals what he believes is the real reason Trump

pardoned Arpaio – to show his former campaign team members currently under the scrutiny of Special Counsel Mueller that he is willing to do the same for them too,

so long as they keep silent as to what actually happened between the Trump campaign and agents of the Russian Federation:


For many weeks, Washington has been swirling with rumors that Mueller already has secured the cooperation of Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort in his investigation of the president.

And Trump undoubtedly is more vulnerable to the testimony of these two men than he is to that of any other players in this fearful drama.

Therefore, Trump must feel compelled to

send this message through Arpaio’s pardon:

the president is eager and willing to do the same thing for anyone who might be pressured into testifying against him.

The warning signs, says Kaiser, are all too familiar to him.


I have a written a book about France under fascism, and what we are now experiencing is exactly what incipient fascism looks like.

The combination of Trump’s relentless assaults on the free press, his open encouragement of Nazis — which is the only honest description of his initial refusal to condemn them — and now a pardon without even pretending to go through the normal channels of the Justice Department —

these are all the acts of man who is blatantly defying his sacred pledge to uphold the Constitution of the United States.

He finishes with an ominous warning to the Republican Party, comparing them to the Vichy French who enabled the Nazi takeover of their nation and the genocide of French Jews.


Like the men and women of Vichy France who began their collaboration with the Nazis seventy-seven years ago,

from now on, every senator and House member of either party who continues to remain silent about this president’s unconstitutional acts is directly complicit in the high crimes and misdemeanors of Donald Trump.

Senator Lindsay Graham already has said that the firing of Attorney General Jeff Sessions would mean the beginning of the end of Trump’s presidency.

It is long past time for all of Graham’s colleagues in both houses to declare that the same thing will be true if the president dares to repeat the horrific abuse of his pardon power that we witnessed last night.

Otherwise, America is destined for an era of violence and darkness unlike any we have ever witnessed since the end of the Civil War, one hundred and fifty-two years ago.


http://verifiedpolitics.com/top-historian-fascism-just-issued-chilling-warning-trumps-arpaio-pardon/ (http://verifiedpolitics.com/top-historian-fascism-just-issued-chilling-warning-trumps-arpaio-pardon/)

boutons_deux
08-26-2017, 11:49 PM
The Ethics Chief Who Resigned Just Called Out The Entire White House Over Arpaio Pardon



Every one of you WH staffers owns this disgusting unamerican racist pro-authoritarian gesture forever like it was tattooed on your forehead.
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) August 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/901238645906190337)

Vile!! What POTUS says "exemplifies selfless public service" is: dehumanizing inmates, racial profiling, and gleefully defying a court order
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) August 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/901236766446891010)

This pardon also departs from procedural norms. And as an affirmative act by POTUS, it reveals an emboldening. A harbinger of worse to come.
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) August 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/901242770916073472)

http://verifiedpolitics.com/ethics-chief-resigned-just-called-entire-white-house-arpaio-pardon/ (http://verifiedpolitics.com/ethics-chief-resigned-just-called-entire-white-house-arpaio-pardon/)

boutons_deux
08-27-2017, 12:14 AM
Top Republican Paul Ryan condemns Joe Arpaio pardon

"Law enforcement officials have a special responsibility to respect the rights of everyone in the United States.

We should not allow anyone to believe that responsibility is diminished by this pardon,"

his spokesman said in a statement.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41064787

:lol dickless, spineless Ryan hiding behind a spokesperson

Thread
08-27-2017, 12:24 AM
Joe

boutons_deux
08-27-2017, 12:42 AM
‘He should resign’: Twitter lashes Jeff Sessions for failure to block Trump’s meddling in Arpaio case


President Donald Trump consulted with Attorney Gen. Jeff Sessions to see if the charges against Arpaio could be dropped before he went to trial for contempt of a federal order

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/431276795216678912/K9GgLuad_normal.pngDavid Corn (https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC)
(https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC)✔@DavidCornDC (https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC)

Trump to Comey: Can you go easy on Flynn?
Trump to Sessions: Can you kill Arpaio case?
What's next?
6:10 PM - Aug 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/DavidCornDC/status/901582567857680388)

Doodledevotee @doodledevotee (https://twitter.com/doodledevotee)

Replying to PhilipRucker @Fahrenthold (https://twitter.com/_/status/901578047949819906)
Did the framers of the Constitution intend for pardons to be payoffs for loyalty?
6:48 PM - Aug 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/doodledevotee/status/901592221719384064)


Lady A @ladyaiam (https://twitter.com/ladyaiam)

Replying to @doodledevotee and 2 others (https://twitter.com/_/status/901592221719384064)
No, and the DOJ knows that. That's why 45 bypassed Sessions' DOJ to pardon Arpaio.
7:46 PM - Aug 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/ladyaiam/status/901606817322549250)

Lovina Box @lovinabox (https://twitter.com/lovinabox)

If Sessions does what the President tells him, he should resign because he's no longer United States Attorney General but Trump's attorney.
7:32 PM - Aug 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/lovinabox/status/901603364697452544)



Preet Bharara (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara)
(https://twitter.com/PreetBharara)✔@PreetBharara (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara)

Jeff Sessions, potted plant. #joearpaio (https://twitter.com/hashtag/joearpaio?src=hash)
9:08 PM - Aug 25, 2017 (https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/901265082650423296)


John Schindler (https://twitter.com/20committee)
(https://twitter.com/20committee)✔@20committee (https://twitter.com/20committee)

Even Sessions didn't want to touch this one. Think about that. https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/901245620521979904 … (https://t.co/iqujOpKowy)
7:53 PM - Aug 25, 2017 (https://twitter.com/20committee/status/901246068020703233)


S. Sweeney @SSweene67425569 (https://twitter.com/SSweene67425569)

Replying to @nytimes (https://twitter.com/_/status/901495230486151168)
It is said he consulted Sessions about dropping the case. Isn't that a violation like tampering with a witness like the mafia did. Feel me!
7:56 PM - Aug 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/SSweene67425569/status/901609302158217216)


Michelle Resists @immouthymom (https://twitter.com/immouthymom)

Sessions is prolly the longest sitting pure-D racist who ever sat on Capitol Hill. (from a long time bama resident)
7:51 PM - Aug 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/immouthymom/status/901608188256149504)


mark @dm_markske (https://twitter.com/dm_markske)

Sessions must resign if he is not the chief of his own Department. DOJ does not report to Trump. The US Gov't is not a family business.
7:50 PM - Aug 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/dm_markske/status/901607815508307968)






Dr. Dena Grayson (https://twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson)
(https://twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson)✔@DrDenaGrayson (https://twitter.com/DrDenaGrayson)
Trump tried to get Sessions to drop the #SheriffJoe (https://twitter.com/hashtag/SheriffJoe?src=hash) case, but even Sessions wouldn't do ithttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f633.png

Let THAT sink inhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/203c.pnghttps://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-asked-sessions-about-closing-case-against-arpaio-an-ally-since-birtherism/2017/08/26/15e5d7b2-8a7f-11e7-a94f-3139abce39f5_story.html?utm_term=.262dd4da217c … (https://t.co/Ew4yDYtWYD)














Mo @dynamomo (https://twitter.com/dynamomo)




Because even Sessions WAS APPALLED.
7:45 PM - Aug 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/dynamomo/status/901606660929703938)





http://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/he-must-resign-twitter-lashes-jeff-sessions-for-failure-to-block-trumps-meddling-in-arpaio-case/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Thread
08-27-2017, 06:36 AM
Joe

boutons_deux
08-28-2017, 10:29 AM
Trump Just Retweeted A False Story About President Obama To Defend His Pardon Of Sheriff Arpaio


http://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/pav-1.jpg

She is referring to conservative lightning rods, Chelsea Manning and Oscar López Rivera —

neither of whom were pardoned but had lengthy sentences commuted.

But the deceit does not stop there.

The Defense Department determined (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/chelsea-manning-leaks-national-security-us-no-damage-report-us-a7801101.html) “with high confidence that [Manning’s leaks] will have no direct personal impact on current and former US leadership in Iraq.”

In light of that, and the abuse Manning had taken during her seven years in prison, Obama determined — not that she should be pardoned or did nothing wrong — but that time had been served. Manning’s disclosures have earned her numerous international honors (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning#Foreign_tributes) — not from America’s enemies but our allies.
Find Out More >

López Rivera (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oscar_L%C3%B3pez_Rivera) is a former member of a militant Puerto Rican independence organization, who pled guilty to charges brought against him in the late 1970’s. He also served in Vietnam with the U.S. Army and earned a Bronze Star for his service. His sentence was commuted after serving 35 years in prison at the age of 74.

The stories of these two Americans is complex,

both served years in prison, and neither were pardoned.

In contrast, Arpaio bragged

about torturing people based on their ethnicity and race,

driving many to their deaths.

His tenure as Sheriff is a dark chapter in American history and his pardon is an abomination.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/08/28/trump-just-retweeted-false-story-president-obama-defend-pardon-sheriff-arpaio/

Trash's ignorant, stupid base will "believe" Trash's re-tweet as truth from God.

Thread
08-28-2017, 11:27 AM
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Thread
08-28-2017, 11:28 AM
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Pavlov
08-28-2017, 11:40 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIO_iKAUEAAkDES.jpg:largeFAKE NEWS

Spurminator
08-28-2017, 11:46 AM
Oh good.

902201888661168128

Kid Rock, cartoonishly evil racists... Good optics, Republicans.

Reck
08-28-2017, 11:57 AM
Dont trumpies have different talkings points than A, But Obama and B, But Hillary.

I mean, how about some originality people?

Pavlov
08-28-2017, 11:58 AM
law and :cryrder

Thread
08-28-2017, 01:23 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIO_iKAUEAAkDES.jpg:large

Pavlov
08-28-2017, 01:27 PM
Still fake news meme.

Thread
08-28-2017, 01:31 PM
Oh good.

902201888661168128

Kid Rock, cartoonishly evil racists... Good optics, Republicans.

No. I love Joe, but, he can't beat Flake. We must choose wisely here because Flake is ripe for the pickings. It just ain't Joe.

Joe

boutons_deux
08-28-2017, 03:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/877547793342189568/8Puipv--_normal.jpgSally Yates
✔@SallyQYates (https://twitter.com/SallyQYates)

With his pardon pen, POTUS reveals his own contempt for our Constitution, our courts, and our founding principles of equality and justice.
9:42 PM - Aug 25, 2017 (https://twitter.com/SallyQYates/status/901273549536731136)

=============

Trash only values himself and his money, absolutely nothing else. Is grifter President of himself, not of America.

Thread
08-28-2017, 04:30 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/877547793342189568/8Puipv--_normal.jpgSally Yates
✔@SallyQYates (https://twitter.com/SallyQYates)

With his pardon pen, POTUS reveals his own contempt for our Constitution, our courts, and our founding principles of equality and justice.
9:42 PM - Aug 25, 2017 (https://twitter.com/SallyQYates/status/901273549536731136)

=============

Trash only values himself and his money, absolutely nothing else. Is grifter President of himself, not of America.




She's bitter. No more limo. No more high grade health insurance. No more doing what she wants when she wants to do it. No more limo. No more SS. No more peanut butter & jelly sandwiches. No more limo. No more big shot. No more bragging to her friends & enemies about her job. No more.

Stings, don't it.

Thread
08-28-2017, 04:32 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIO_iKAUEAAkDES.jpg:large

RandomGuy
08-28-2017, 04:44 PM
Dont trumpies have different talkings points than A, But Obama and B, But Hillary.

I mean, how about some originality people?

Whataboutism.

Whatabout, lather, rinse, repeat.

Pavlov
08-28-2017, 04:53 PM
She's bitter. No more limo. No more high grade health insurance. No more doing what she wants when she wants to do it. No more limo. No more SS. No more peanut butter & jelly sandwiches. No more limo. No more big shot. No more bragging to her friends & enemies about her job. No more.

Stings, don't it.She's a bigger shot than she ever was working for the gubmit.

Stings, don't it?

Splits
08-28-2017, 05:03 PM
awww... poor :cry racist snowflake :cry

902276367575687169

Reck
08-28-2017, 05:08 PM
Oh good.

902201888661168128

Kid Rock, cartoonishly evil racists... Good optics, Republicans.

That's only good news for Flake....and gives the democrats a semblance of a chance. The more republicans running the better.

Joe is an idiot though. He's hated in his own state.

Should have gotten the clue when he was voted out of office.

boutons_deux
08-28-2017, 05:16 PM
awww... poor :cry racist snowflake :cry

902276367575687169

:lol

what the families in distress for the men and women who died in his concentration camp?

boutons_deux
08-28-2017, 05:24 PM
Noah Feldman, a professor at Harvard Law School, argued (https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-08-23/arpaio-pardon-would-show-contempt-for-constitution) last week that, because

“the only legally binding check on law enforcement is

the authority of the judiciary to say what the law is,”

a President who blocks the courts from sanctioning a sheriff who intentionally defies the law “is breaking the basic structure of the legal order.”

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-arpaio-pardon-dangerously-accelerates-trumps-assault-on-the-rule-of-law?mbid=nl_170828_Daily&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=11794558&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1222554488&spReportId=MTIyMjU1NDQ4OAS2

Thread
08-28-2017, 07:35 PM
Joe is not running for office. He is going to help those running for office.

Joe

boutons_deux
08-28-2017, 09:54 PM
Trash surrogate implies criminal collusion between judge and DoJ to go after Arpaio. This is now all over right wing hate media as revealed truth direct from God.

"Without any evidence to back it up, Michael Caputo, a former Trump campaign aide and supporter, insinuated that a federal judge and the U.S. Department of Justice under President Obama colluded to go after Arpaio criminally.

The comment from Caputo came after CNN’s legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin pointed out that

it was a federal judge who initiated the contempt charge not the Justice Department.

U.S. District Court Judge Murray Snow recommended to prosecutors t (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-arizona-sheriff-contempt-idUSKCN10V018)hat they bring contempt charges.

Snow found that Arpaio willfully violated his order which prohibited Arpaio’s department from unconstitutionally stopping drivers just because they suspected they were in the country illegally.

Judge Snow also found that Arpaio failed to properly keep records like he was supposed to.

“If you think that the judge and the Justice Deparment weren’t communicating than you are a little naive on that part too,” Caputo insisted about why the charges against Arpaio were brought.

That quickly drew the attention of CNN host John Berman (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-arizona-sheriff-contempt-idUSKCN10V018)who asked Caputo if

he just made the allegation that the DOJ and a federal judge colluded without any evidence.

Caputo seemed to stumble a bit.

“No, that’s not what I’ve done. What I’m saying here is the judge is an Obama appointee, the Justice Department who brought this down on Arpaio was very .. ,” Caputo said trailing off.

Actually Caputo is wrong on that point too. U.S. District Judge Murray Snow, who initiated the charges, is a George W. Bush appointee.

Judge Susan Bolton, who found Arpaio guilty during a trial, is also not an Obama appointee (she was appointed by Bill Clinton)"

https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/say-what-trump-surrogate-claims-judge-colluded-with-doj-to-get-arpaio-conviction/

ducks
08-28-2017, 10:53 PM
The truth about the Arpaio matter is the Obama and his justice dept. persecuted Joe Arpaio for the investigation of Obama's birth certificate and his vocal criticism of Obama for the way illegals were being let in our nation illegally, the charges against the sheriff manufactured to keep Joe from being elected sheriff again and to punish the man for his patriotism, Trump was well within his rights as president to pardon this man !

Pavlov
08-28-2017, 10:57 PM
The truth about the Arpaio matter is the Obama and his justice dept. persecuted Joe Arpaio for the investigation of Obama's birth certificate and his vocal criticism of Obama for the way illegals were being let in our nation illegally, the charges against the sheriff manufactured to keep Joe from being elected sheriff again and to punish the man for his patriotism, Trump was well within his rights as president to pardon this man !Yeah, no.

That wasn't it.

Dude was arresting and detaining American citizens with no cause.

ducks
08-28-2017, 11:03 PM
Did not break the law

Pavlov
08-28-2017, 11:06 PM
Did not break the lawIndeed he did.

Thread
08-29-2017, 06:10 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIO_iKAUEAAkDES.jpg:large

Talking about Chelsea Manning yesterday at the news conference Trump referred to (she) as "he." tee, hee.

Thread
08-29-2017, 06:27 AM
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Pavlov
08-29-2017, 12:46 PM
Yep. Obama is loved. Trump is hated. Nothing you can do about it.

hater
08-29-2017, 12:49 PM
Joselito Arpaio not Joe

Thread
08-29-2017, 12:54 PM
Joe

ducks
08-29-2017, 04:45 PM
Nate Silver‏Verified account NateSilver538



Trump's Arpaio pardon is completely... precedented. Lots of modern presidents have used & abused their pardon power.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-arpaio-pardon-has-plenty-of-precedents-that-got-other-presidents-in-trouble/

Pavlov
08-29-2017, 06:41 PM
Nate Silver‏Verified account NateSilver538



Trump's Arpaio pardon is completely... precedented. Lots of modern presidents have used & abused their pardon power.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-arpaio-pardon-has-plenty-of-precedents-that-got-other-presidents-in-trouble/lol ducks is pro-abuse.

Thread
08-29-2017, 07:13 PM
Joe

ducks
08-29-2017, 07:20 PM
actually I think all presidents should not be allowed to pardon anyone but they are
trump did nothing illegal

Pavlov
08-29-2017, 07:21 PM
So ducks is taking a stand against Trump's abuse of power?

Thread
08-29-2017, 07:22 PM
actually I think all presidents should not be allowed to pardon anyone but they are
trump did nothing illegal

Exactly. Like Hussein said:::"There are consequences to elections."

Joe

ducks
08-29-2017, 07:24 PM
I said ALL PRESIDENTS should not be allowed to pardon
other presidents have
he did nothing wrong and he deserved to be pardoned
the former president went after him because he went after him
the trial was suppose to be jury was not
a person can request a jury trial he did

trump did the right thing since presidents can pardon people(I think they should not be allowed to )

Pavlov
08-29-2017, 07:25 PM
I said ALL PRESIDENTS should not be allowed to pardon
other presidents have
he did nothing wrong and he deserved to be pardoned
the former president went after him because he went after him
the trial was suppose to be jury was not
a person can request a jury trial he did

trump did the right thing since presidents can pardon people(I think they should not be allowed to )So you don't actually have any principles and don't believe in the rule of law.

Thanks for making yourself perfectly clear.

ducks
08-29-2017, 07:44 PM
all the presidents pardoned people that were found guilty
that is what a pardon is
I think presidents should not pardon but they are allowed to.
so I have no idea why the left is crying like a baby about him pardoning someone.

Pavlov
08-29-2017, 07:45 PM
all the presidents pardoned people that were found guilty
that is what a pardon is
I think presidents should not pardon but they are allowed to.
so I have no idea why the left is crying like a baby about him pardoning someone.Yes, yes -- you have no principles and don't believe in the rule of law. You already told us.

ducks
08-29-2017, 07:46 PM
so were you against other people that got pardoned?

Pavlov
08-29-2017, 07:48 PM
so were you against other people that got pardoned?Cronies? Yes.

boutons_deux
08-30-2017, 11:50 AM
Legal challenge to Arpaio pardon begins

The Arizona Republic reports (http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2017/08/29/judge-wont-vacate-former-sheriff-joe-arpaios-contempt-conviction-without-oral-arguments/614854001/):



U.S. District Court Judge Susan Bolton canceled former Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s upcoming sentencing hearing for his criminal contempt-of-court conviction, telling attorneys not to file replies to motions that were pending before his recent presidential pardon.

However, Bolton on Tuesday stopped short of throwing out the conviction based solely on Arpaio’s request.

Instead she ordered Arpaio and the U.S. Department of Justice, which is prosecuting the case, to file briefs on why she should or shouldn’t grant Arpaio’s request.


In other words, this is no slam dunk.

Protect Democracy (https://unitedtoprotectdemocracy.org/about/), an activist group seeking to thwart Trump’s violations of legal norms, and a group of lawyers have sent a letter to Raymond N. Hulser and John Dixon Keller of the Public Integrity Section, Criminal Division of the Justice Department, arguing that the pardon goes beyond constitutional limits.

In their letter obtained by Right Turn, they argue:


While the Constitution’s pardon power is broad, it is not unlimited. Like all provisions of the original Constitution of 1787, it is limited by later-enacted amendments, starting with the Bill of Rights.

For example, were a president to announce that he planned to pardon all white defendants convicted of a certain crime but not all black defendants, that would conflict with the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause.

Similarly, issuance of a pardon that violates the Fifth Amendment’s Due Process Clause is also suspect.

Under the Due Process Clause, no one in the United States (citizen or otherwise) may “be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”

But for due process and judicial review to function, courts must be able to restrain government officials.

Due process requires that, when a government official is found by a court to be violating individuals’ constitutional rights, the court can issue effective relief (such as an injunction) ordering the official to cease this unconstitutional conduct.

And for an injunction to be effective, there must be a penalty for violation of the injunction—principally, contempt of court.


Put simply, the argument is that the president cannot obviate the court’s powers to enforce its orders when the constitutional rights of others are at stake.

“The president can’t use the pardon power to immunize lawless officials from consequences for violating people’s constitutional rights,”

if the president can pardon anyone who defies court orders to enforce constitutional protections,

then those constitutional protections are rendered meaningless.

It is a creative argument, but then, this president has created new and disturbing challenges to democratic norms.

“Judge Bolton may want to see how the honorable lawyers of DOJ’s public integrity section respond personally in open court —

themselves as officers of the bar who’ve taken an oath to uphold the Constitution —

to the blatant abuse of power by their boss.”

He adds, “After all, these are people who’ve dedicated their lives and careers to ensuring our public officials act with integrity and Joe Arpaio and

now the President of the United States have spit in the face of that.”

Bolton’s hearing will venture into uncharted territory,

a voyage necessitated by Trump’s utter disregard for the rule of law and his constitutional obligations to enforce the Constitution and laws of the United States.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/08/30/legal-challenge-to-arpaio-pardon-begins/?undefined=&utm_term=.1c8c45cce04a&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

If Trash's pardon gets overturned? :lol

This will probably go to SCOTUS, where the oligarchy's 5 will rule for Trash.

spurraider21
08-30-2017, 12:26 PM
actually I think all presidents should not be allowed to pardon anyone but they are
trump did nothing illegal
Did anyone say trumps pardon was illegal?

boutons_deux
08-30-2017, 12:42 PM
Did anyone say trumps pardon was illegal?

it's being challenged as illegal.

and the challenge "should" scare Trash and his mafia about Trash's message that he will pardon them all, including himself

Arpaio pardon probably going to SCOTUS, and should be immediately heard and ruled on, just as when Scalia elected dubya rather than count the votes.

spurraider21
08-30-2017, 12:55 PM
it's being challenged as illegal.

and the challenge "should" scare Trash and his mafia about Trash's message that he will pardon them all, including himself

Arpaio pardon probably going to SCOTUS, and should be immediately heard and ruled on, just as when Scalia elected dubya rather than count the votes.
Nobodies talking to you
Ever

boutons_deux
08-30-2017, 01:00 PM
Nobodies talking to you
Ever

Spurraider joins the butthurt crowd of bitch slapped victims of The Great Boutons

boutons_deux
08-30-2017, 01:46 PM
A Judge Just Gave Trump And Arpaio Bad News About Pardon

This morning, Bolton ordered that the Department of Justice file a memo and scheduled a hearing for October 4th where the Trump team must publicly argue

why a man who was so racist he was convicted of criminal contempt of court (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/07/31/540629884/ex-sheriff-joe-arpaio-convicted-of-criminal-contempt)for refusing to end his discriminatory racial profiling policies deserves to walk free.

The state of Arizona will have their own chance to argue why Arpaio should not be pardoned,

allowing them to publicly, and in great detail,

list the full extent of the heinous crimes and misdeeds of Sheriff Joe Arpaio, (https://longreads.com/2017/08/28/the-collected-crimes-of-sheriff-joe-arpaio/)

which include running what he refers to as a concentration camp,

torturing his inmates,

forcing a woman to give birth in shackles, and

refusing to investigate sex crimes against Latina children.


Walter Shaub (https://twitter.com/waltshaub)
✔@waltshaub (https://twitter.com/waltshaub)

For Nat'l Dog Day let's remember the time JoeArpaio's Deputies set a puppy on fire, laughing at its sobbing owner as it died a ghastly death
12:55 PM - Aug 26, 2017 (https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/901503258182733824)




160 people have died in his jails (http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/how-many-inmates-have-died-sheriff-joe-arpaios-jails-who-knows-its-big-number), with little explanation and no consequences for the abusive guards or entire absence of oversight.

Trump is about to find out the hard way that in the United States of America, the President is not king.

http://verifiedpolitics.com/judge-just-gave-trump-arpaio-bad-news-pardon/

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08-30-2017, 02:32 PM
Joe

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08-30-2017, 05:22 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIgHBP8VAAAzPwn.jpg:large

spurraider21
08-30-2017, 05:43 PM
:lmao "upholds the law"

Pavlov
08-30-2017, 05:47 PM
"Violates the Constitution"

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08-30-2017, 06:54 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIgHBP8VAAAzPwn.jpg:large

RandomGuy
08-31-2017, 04:46 PM
Whoopsies. Looks like that pardon might not stick.

:lmao

Trump can't even pardon right.

baseline bum
08-31-2017, 04:51 PM
Whoopsies. Looks like that pardon might not stick.

:lmao

Trump can't even pardon right.

source?

boutons_deux
08-31-2017, 04:56 PM
There are OPINIONS for and against whether the pardon of a civil crime against Federal courts is KINGLY pardonable.

I bet this goes to SCOTUS

RandomGuy
08-31-2017, 05:23 PM
source?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2017/08/30/legal-challenge-to-arpaio-pardon-begins/?utm_term=.30c2bbdbe2f1

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-controversial-arpaio-pardon-faces-new-legal-scrutiny


Case is civil is the core of it.

RandomGuy
09-12-2017, 03:48 PM
“The Arpaio Pardon does not faithfully execute the law; it sends a signal that public officials, so long as they are allies of the President, need not execute the law at all,” the filing reads. “The President cannot use the pardon power to invite other public officials to violate people’s constitutional rights.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/group-founded-obama-administration-alumni-211756678.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index

boutons_deux
09-13-2017, 09:00 AM
Former Obama Officials Just Took Decisive Legal Action Against Trump’s Arpaio Pardon

Protect Democracy (https://protectdemocracy.org/), a nonpartisan organization founded by former Obama administration attorneys, has charged that Trump’s pardon of former Maricopa County sheriff Joe Arpaio is unconstitutional. As such, the advocacy group has insisted that U.S. District Judge Susan Bolton refuse Arpaio’s request to vacate his conviction.

Protect Democracy claims in an amicus brief that

Trump’s pardon is not legal in that Arpaio was not simply convicted of a crime, but of violating the Constitution.

As such, were Trump to pardon someone guilty of violating the Constitution, he would be violating his own presidential obligation to uphold the Constitution.

“The Arpaio Pardon does not faithfully execute the law; it sends a signal that public officials,

so long as they are allies of the President, need not execute the law at all,” the brief reads.

“The President cannot use the pardon power to invite other public officials to violate people’s constitutional rights.”


Jeff Sessions’ Department of Justice had encouraged the court to dismiss the case, claiming,

“the government agrees that the Court should vacate all orders and dismiss the case as moot.”

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/09/11/former-obama-officials-just-took-decisive-legal-action-trumps-arpaio-pardon/

RandomGuy
09-13-2017, 10:26 AM
There appears to be more than a little basis to find this action unconstitutional.

That will be funny. Definitely tagging this for follow up.

boutons_deux
09-13-2017, 10:36 AM
There appears to be more than a little basis to find this action unconstitutional.

That will be funny. Definitely tagging this for follow up.

If it goes to SCOTUS, it will be a 5-4 loser most probably, but maybe a 4-5 winner with Kennedy.

The "Oligarchy's Four" are as reliable as sunrise.

Winehole23
08-13-2018, 07:26 PM
He is currently polling third behind Rep. Martha McSally, R-Ariz., and GOP state Sen. Kelli Ward less than three weeks until the Aug. 28 primary.https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/sheriff-joe-on-sacha-baron-cohen-interview-i-made-a-bad-mistake

Quadzilla99
08-13-2018, 09:12 PM
Spurraider joins the butthurt crowd of bitch slapped victims of The Great Boutons

Yeah, thats exactly what happened

boutons_deux
01-03-2019, 12:09 AM
Trump administration won’t help Joe Arpaio get his conviction erased

The Trump Justice Department has declined Joe Arpaio’s request (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/02/sheriff-arpaio-pardon-1078243) for it to ask the Supreme Court to block an investigation into him

Politico reported Wednesday that Arpaio wanted the DOJ to intervene by asking the Supreme Court to block a special counsel investigation into his contempt of court conviction.

Though the former Maricopa County sheriff was pardoned by President Donald Trump (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/08/donald-trump-pardons-former-maricopa-county-sheriff-joe-arpaio/) while he was awaiting sentencing for the contempt of court conviction over his department’s profiling of Latinos,

Arpaio wants to essentially erase the charge entirely.
“The pardon appears to have wiped out any chance the 86-year-old will go to prison or face a fine in connection with the contempt charge,”

U.S. District Court Judge Susan Bolton, however, denied Arpaio’s request — and the DOJ, in turn, declined to “defend Bolton’s decision” when the ex-sheriff appealed it.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/trump-administration-wont-help-joe-arpaio-get-conviction-erased-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Winehole23
05-16-2019, 09:03 AM
Conrad Black gets a pardon from DJT. Seems neither Black nor Trump are familiar with how pardons work:


“He could not have been more gracious and quickly got to his point, that he was granting me a full pardon, that would ‘expunge the bad rap you got,’”https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2019/05/15/donald-trump-issues-pardon-for-conrad-black.html

Winehole23
05-16-2019, 09:06 AM
The Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Wilson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wilson) (1833) that a pardon could be rejected by the convict. In Burdick v. United States (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burdick_v._United_States) (1915), the court specifically said: "Circumstances may be made to bring innocence under the penalties of the law. If so brought, escape by confession of guilt implied in the acceptance of a pardon may be rejected, preferring to be the victim of the law rather than its acknowledged transgressor, preferring death even to such certain infamy." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_pardons_in_the_United_States

Winehole23
10-19-2021, 12:51 PM
Joe Arpaio still running up the tab in Maricopa Co.

Violating rights under color of law can be very expensive.

1450517088624250887

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10-19-2021, 02:13 PM
Joe Arpaio still running up the tab in Maricopa Co.

Violating rights under color of law can be very expensive.

1450517088624250887

Good. Even excellent. They were wetPERIOD

Winehole23
08-05-2022, 11:49 PM
on a losing streak

1555742047641825280

SnakeBoy
08-06-2022, 12:00 AM
Still pardoned?

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08-06-2022, 02:12 AM
Still pardoned?

President Trump did that!!!

ElNono
08-06-2022, 11:40 AM
on a losing streak

1555742047641825280

Talk about Big Losers!

Winehole23
05-24-2023, 02:32 AM
crooked policing, big $$$ paid by the public.

1660991720648048641

MultiTroll
05-24-2023, 09:59 AM
CLAIM: Refused to investigate alleged child sex crimes
STATUS: Mostly true.

As the East Valley Tribune's Ryan Gabrielson reported in a Pulitzer Prize-winning article (https://web.archive.org/web/20100919203749/https://www.pulitzer.org/archives/8377) in 2008, Sheriff Arpaio's personal obsession with immigration enforcement sapped county resources and led to a sharp decline in criminal investigations and arrests. Many of the cases that fell by the wayside involved sex crimes. "By Arpaio’s own admission, the number of uninvestigated sex crime cases eventually swelled to more than 400," Gabrielson wrote (https://www.propublica.org/article/the-joe-arpaio-i-knew) in 2017. "Many of the victims were children."

According to law enforcement officials cited in a 2011 Associated Press report (https://www.deseretnews.com/article/700204073/Critics-say-tough-Arizona-sheriff-botched-sex-crime-cases.html), dozens of alleged child molestation cases in the county were inadequately investigated or "not worked at all":

pgardn
05-24-2023, 11:03 AM
but.... but.... debt... its the blue team spending all this $

Winehole23
06-01-2024, 09:22 PM
crooked policing, big $$$ paid by the public.

1660991720648048641that number is now over $300 million

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOC0c80W4AEmPJo?format=jpg&name=large

pgardn
06-01-2024, 10:27 PM
that number is now over $300 million

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOC0c80W4AEmPJo?format=jpg&name=large

The party of fiscal discipline is a joke.
Sweet dreams red team. Fantasize that Mexico payed for a wall.

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06-01-2024, 10:55 PM
that number is now over $300 million

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOC0c80W4AEmPJo?format=jpg&name=large

The wet bastards.

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06-01-2024, 10:55 PM
The party of fiscal discipline is a joke.
Sweet dreams red team. Fantasize that Mexico payed for a wall.

You sawed to that, peeg.