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webshad
08-30-2017, 09:47 PM
Your prediction? Elaborate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VftP8dyrJog

Damn! This seems like two locomotives are about to collide. :ihit

apalisoc_9
08-30-2017, 09:48 PM
Canelo decision

dabom
08-30-2017, 09:59 PM
Canelo by KO.

Mitch
08-30-2017, 10:27 PM
Hard one, Canelo was looking sluggish. He's not a lean fighter that balloons 20lbs now, he looked slower albeit bigger the last public training video I saw. I have huge doubts about his stamina.

Golovkin was exposed as more of a gimmick fighter after Jacobs. Canelo should be able to outbox him for as long as his stamina holds up and soak most of his power.

I'd give it to canelo 6/10 times just because I don't think golovkin can stop him unless canelo gasses bad.

Robz4000
08-31-2017, 03:18 AM
Canelo imo, but I can see it going either way; looking forward to this one unlike last weekend's fight.

lebomb
08-31-2017, 06:49 AM
GGG will win.

UZER
08-31-2017, 08:11 AM
Hard one, Canelo was looking sluggish. He's not a lean fighter that balloons 20lbs now, he looked slower albeit bigger the last public training video I saw. I have huge doubts about his stamina.

Golovkin was exposed as more of a gimmick fighter after Jacobs. Canelo should be able to outbox him for as long as his stamina holds up and soak most of his power.

I'd give it to canelo 6/10 times just because I don't think golovkin can stop him unless canelo gasses bad.

This has always been my issue with him. To me, it's why he doesn't have that "killer instinct". He's very conservative and rarely risks going for the kill unless it's 100% guaranteed. Not saying he can't knock dudes out with power, but he's just very cautious about going for it, and it makes it frustrating to watch him fight.

This is his biggest fight and if he dominates, or wins all out war style fight, he'll have my respect.

I'm going with GGG in this one.

whitemamba
08-31-2017, 11:08 AM
GGG by knockout tbh, I don't think canelo has felt golovkin type of power. Kazakh Thunder tbh

whitemamba
08-31-2017, 11:10 AM
Hard one, Canelo was looking sluggish. He's not a lean fighter that balloons 20lbs now, he looked slower albeit bigger the last public training video I saw. I have huge doubts about his stamina.

Golovkin was exposed as more of a gimmick fighter after Jacobs. Canelo should be able to outbox him for as long as his stamina holds up and soak most of his power.

I'd give it to canelo 6/10 times just because I don't think golovkin can stop him unless canelo gasses bad.

Lol at ggg being exposed , no one wanted to fight him, he made Lemieux look like he's punches are pointless . Dude has a granite chin , and the best footwork minus lomachenko. ggg cuts the ring of like a maestro. I don't even think he tried against Jacobs or Brooke

webshad
08-31-2017, 11:22 AM
Lol at ggg being exposed , no one wanted to fight him, he made Lemieux look like he's punches are pointless . Dude has a granite chin , and the best footwork minus lomachenko. ggg cuts the ring of like a maestro. I don't even think he tried against Jacobs or Brooke

That was my next question to you all.

Who are the heaviest puncher Canelo faced?

Who are the heaviest puncher GGG faces?

Lemieux can hit like a mofo last I checked. Jacobs is noooo push over like people claim, people blame GGG for not finishing Jacobs, well he's an A level fighter.

This fight has everything for being a good one, one guy likes pushing the tempo and the other guy likes welcoming you in.

The Gemini Method
08-31-2017, 11:31 AM
I'm going to go with GGG. Though it'll be a close fight I think it'll be by KO in what should be an epic fight. I'm hoping that it goes into the 10-12 round range, but who knows.

UZER
08-31-2017, 11:37 AM
I just want to see how Canelo reacts when he's hit with thundering shots. He's never experienced that in his career. That's why I still have questions about him.

Glad he finally took the fight, even if it's at a catch weight in his favor.

whitemamba
08-31-2017, 12:53 PM
That was my next question to you all.

Who are the heaviest puncher Canelo faced?

Who are the heaviest puncher GGG faces?

Lemieux can hit like a mofo last I checked. Jacobs is noooo push over like people claim, people blame GGG for not finishing Jacobs, well he's an A level fighter.

This fight has everything for being a good one, one guy likes pushing the tempo and the other guy likes welcoming you in.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKxEkZToX08

David Lemiuex can punch, idk if anyone saw him KO Stevens but theres the vid regardles, spectacular KO. Couldnt agree more with the bolded tbh, Canelo wants you to come at him so he can blast of his counter combos, and all GGG wants to do is fuck you up. He will use his jab (which is powerful), he wont run away. GGG making boxing great again.

DAF86
08-31-2017, 01:05 PM
Now this is a real fight worth watching.

Darth_Pelican
08-31-2017, 01:11 PM
Canelo is only 27? Jesus, that dude started boxing pro when he was like 12 years old.

Mitch
08-31-2017, 02:54 PM
Lol at ggg being exposed , no one wanted to fight him, he made Lemieux look like he's punches are pointless . Dude has a granite chin , and the best footwork minus lomachenko. ggg cuts the ring of like a maestro. I don't even think he tried against Jacobs or Brooke

I'd not say his footwork is notable in any way other than his constant balance which is what leads to him having a good chin. Besides golovkin's obvious potential in power, nothing about him really exemplifies what you'd expect at mw. He didn't take it easy on Jacob's, I feel, that is simply where he's at right now unless he pulls a Norton and rises to the occasion.

He hasn't really had a defining fight to showcase his ability, canelo probably won't be the fight unless he defied odds with his stamina and speed problems for his current size.

This fight will probably just be decent, I think the "now this is a REAL fight" crowd are ignoring that it's going to just be a clash between a slugger with counter punching and a brawler.

webshad
08-31-2017, 11:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uflG5Xxz9U8

I. Hustle
08-31-2017, 11:33 PM
Canelo by KO.

I don't even care who wins though. I am just excited about the fight. Finally one worth watching.

AlexJones
09-01-2017, 02:15 PM
GGG imo, and it won't be entertaining. I already have a bet on him at -149

rastaspur
09-08-2017, 09:57 PM
GGG. Should be an epic fight. If he can't score a knockout, then canelo will win by decision. He's got the home court advantage in vegas. GGG has never fought there. Canelo has fought there 7 times and has a few controversial decisions in his favor there already. Something to consider for sure.

bulakenyo
09-10-2017, 08:20 PM
GGG by TKO, rounds 9-11

Or a pretty hard beatdown if Canelo finishes the full 12 rounds.

Golovkin is not the most graceful fighter, not the best handspeed and flurries, also not the best defensively, but he's got some deceptively heavy hands.

Glancing punches seem to hurt opponents pretty bad. Concussive power. Doesnt have to land flush, as long as he hits you often enough to break you down.

Reminds me of a very young Pacquiao in that regard. Pac at around 17 years old, watching Philippine TV Boxing, it always puzzled me how the hell he keeps hurting his opponents that bad with punches that don't seem that much.

I honestly thought the kid was packing illegal wraps or thumbing his opponents or something. Very odd.

A few fights later, I was convinced the kid had legit punching power.

webshad
09-11-2017, 11:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNHDAf0pdAk

whitemamba
09-11-2017, 11:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNHDAf0pdAk

Starting to get hyped for this fight.

UZER
09-11-2017, 12:27 PM
GGG by TKO, rounds 9-11

Or a pretty hard beatdown if Canelo finishes the full 12 rounds.

Golovkin is not the most graceful fighter, not the best handspeed and flurries, also not the best defensively, but he's got some deceptively heavy hands.

Glancing punches seem to hurt opponents pretty bad. Concussive power. Doesnt have to land flush, as long as he hits you often enough to break you down.

Reminds me of a very young Pacquiao in that regard. Pac at around 17 years old, watching Philippine TV Boxing, it always puzzled me how the hell he keeps hurting his opponents that bad with punches that don't seem that much.

I honestly thought the kid was packing illegal wraps or thumbing his opponents or something. Very odd.

A few fights later, I was convinced the kid had legit punching power.

Even GGG's jabs are brutal.

spurraider21
09-11-2017, 01:24 PM
This damn fight single-handedly doubled the cost of my bachelor party

dabom
09-11-2017, 03:49 PM
This damn fight single-handedly doubled the cost of my bachelor party

What does PPV go for these days?

webshad
09-11-2017, 04:52 PM
Starting to get hyped for this fight.

Same here.

Should be an interesting one.

spurraider21
09-11-2017, 08:18 PM
What does PPV go for these days?
Going to Vegas. Hotel and club prices up

Axl Rose
09-11-2017, 11:51 PM
Hopefully GGG knocks him out

Spurtacular
09-12-2017, 12:07 AM
This damn fight single-handedly doubled the cost of my bachelor party


What does PPV go for these days?

Not that much. Dude must be doing laser tag for his bachelor party or something. :lol

BoricuaCJA
09-12-2017, 12:58 AM
Not that much. Dude must be doing laser tag for his bachelor party or something. :lol
He's going to Vegas. He literally said that hours before you posted this dumb response tbh.

Going to Vegas. Hotel and club prices up

Spurtacular
09-12-2017, 01:02 AM
He's going to Vegas. He literally said that hours before you posted this dumb response tbh.

He must be driving from Henderson and staying at a friend's house. How much fucking money you think ppv is?

"Dumb response" :lmao
Triggered :lmao

313
09-12-2017, 03:40 AM
He must be driving from Henderson and staying at a friend's house. How much fucking money you think ppv is?

"Dumb response" :lmao
Triggered :lmao"hotel and club prices went up"

can you read

AlexJones
09-12-2017, 04:34 AM
The age difference gives Canelo no real edge imo. It's not like Golovkin has been worn down from countless wars over the years.

Spurtacular
09-12-2017, 05:02 AM
"hotel and club prices went up"

can you read

He added the quote after my response.

Pretty sneaky....

Don't be talking down next time, son.

benefactor
09-12-2017, 06:17 AM
He added the quote after my response.

Not sure how that's possible...since there is no edit history on his post and you responded hours later.

Spurtacular
09-12-2017, 06:22 AM
Not sure how that's possible...since there is no edit history on his post and you responded hours later.

Edits aren't counted if in X amount of time; something like 5-10 minutes.

And I did not respond hours later, liar. I'm looking at it right now and it say we both responded 5 hours ago. Will screen shot that right now for posterity.

whitemamba
09-12-2017, 10:27 AM
This damn fight single-handedly doubled the cost of my bachelor party
Congrats bruh

AlexJones
09-13-2017, 10:20 PM
Crooked judges set for Canelo

Mitch
09-14-2017, 07:59 PM
Crooked judges set for Canelo

:lol if it goes to 12, no knockdowns, winning by points is very plausible for canelo without a fix not so much golovkin.

ClubberLang
09-14-2017, 08:13 PM
Prediction?

Pain.

ClubberLang
09-14-2017, 08:19 PM
This damn fight single-handedly doubled the cost of my bachelor party

Cost of male strippers go up, boy? They all want to watch the fight? I'll tell you what. Bring your pretty little self over to my apartment tonight, and I'll show you a real man.

webshad
09-15-2017, 05:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlXBLvT9Vj0

webshad
09-15-2017, 05:54 PM
My prediction, GGG KO win via liver shot R7.

Alvarez seems very very fast compared to GGG. I'm really hyped for this one.

GGG looks powerful, broader shoulders, bigger chest, etc.

Mitch
09-15-2017, 07:34 PM
My prediction, GGG KO win via liver shot R7.

Alvarez seems very very fast compared to GGG. I'm really hyped for this one.

GGG looks powerful, broader shoulders, bigger chest, etc.

Easy decision for Canelo if Golovkin can't pull any knockdowns off or KO the ginger, tbh. Both fighters play into eachother's strengths so it'll mainly be up to whether or not Canelo has the endurance to go the distance, I think he has it in him at this weight. He might be walking in at 175-178 :lol

apalisoc_9
09-15-2017, 08:47 PM
is this tomorrow?

Canelo is a superior boxer..Hard to imagine GGG Inning with cards. but GGG has a tough body and chin going up against a natrually smaller boxer.

Either scoredcards Canelo or Knckout GGG Before 8th round. This goes beyond 8th, Canelo for sure.

hater
09-16-2017, 12:13 AM
Is dis gonnb a good fight nigs?

I am thinking of watchin that shit

StrengthAndHonor
09-16-2017, 12:16 AM
Is dis gonnb a good fight nigs?

I am thinking of watchin that shit

Must-see, imo.

apalisoc_9
09-16-2017, 12:33 AM
Is dis gonnb a good fight nigs?

I am thinking of watchin that shit

wtf..Dude its the biggest fight since Pacman vs Barrera or Maywheater vs Oscar.

Damn I miss Pacman at his natural weight going up against barrera and Marquez before pacman and marquez both decided to bulk up to 140..

Marquez was so awesome..

hater
09-16-2017, 01:11 AM
Not sure

Canelo looked washed up vs Gayweather

Golovkin looks like a bad mofo do Imo he will destroy Canelo

TheGreatYacht
09-16-2017, 08:38 AM
Canelo will win by decision. It will look like Ward vs Kovalev I

Golovkin slurpers will cry rigged if it's a close fight and it goes to decision. Let's be serious.

This year was already a W for boxing as the best combat sport in the world, this fight just put the cherry on top. The great white hope Lomachenko is also fighting Rigondeaux

TheGreatYacht
09-16-2017, 08:40 AM
http://www.dailynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/0915_spo_ldn_boxing-weigh-n-181.jpg?w=620

UZER
09-16-2017, 09:50 AM
Canelo will win by decision. It will look like Ward vs Kovalev I

Golovkin slurpers will cry rigged if it's a close fight and it goes to decision. Let's be serious.

This year was already a W for boxing as the best combat sport in the world, this fight just put the cherry on top. The great white hope Lomachenko is also fighting Rigondeaux

Just heard that news! Damn that's gonna he a great fight too! Rigondeaux is like a silent assassin. Nobody really knows who he is, he carries himself like a robot so that doesn't help, but he's got ko power and great defense.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:16 AM
Just heard that news! Damn that's gonna he a great fight too! Rigondeaux is like a silent assassin. Nobody really knows who he is, he carries himself like a robot so that doesn't help, but he's got ko power and great defense.

Dangerous fight for Rigondeaux, perhaps should have fought someone else at 130 before taking this fight.

But whatever, it's great for boxing.

TheGreatYacht
09-16-2017, 10:43 AM
Just heard that news! Damn that's gonna he a great fight too! Rigondeaux is like a silent assassin. Nobody really knows who he is, he carries himself like a robot so that doesn't help, but he's got ko power and great defense.
Rigo will make that overhyped boxer dance. Will be the next hype machine taken down after Roman Gonzalez

webshad
09-16-2017, 11:36 AM
Rigo will make that overhyped boxer dance. Will be the next hype machine taken down after Roman Gonzalez

You think Lomachenko is overhyped?

StrengthAndHonor
09-16-2017, 11:40 AM
Not sure

Canelo looked washed up vs Gayweather

Golovkin looks like a bad mofo do Imo he will destroy Canelo
That Canelo was too green IMO, and he was drained. He's a far better fighter now.

GGG otoh appeared lackluster against Jacobs. The consensus seems to be GGG must either knock Canelo down or out, otherwise Canelo is the favorite to win by decision.


I have Canelo winning a split and controversial decision.

TheGreatYacht
09-16-2017, 01:08 PM
You think Lomachenko is overhyped?
Obviously lol. He's ranked #1 P4P in half the lists I see. **** has 10 professional fight and already has a loss.

Mitch
09-16-2017, 02:27 PM
Is dis gonnb a good fight nigs?

I am thinking of watchin that shit

It'll be a sloppy brawl, but it's a good popcorn fight. Canelo is a decent boxer so it won't be devoid of any technical prowess.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:11 PM
Fight on!

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:12 PM
Canelo fighting beautifully in R1. Slipping those punches well.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:17 PM
R1 GGG
R2 Canelo

They are still scared of each other. Canelo looks much faster than GGG.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:18 PM
GGG starting to be more aggressive in R3.

Canelo beautiful body work.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:20 PM
Canelo seems like he is able to take GGG's power.

GGG is still cautious of Canelo.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:25 PM
Canelo on the ropes in R4. GGG is punching him without committing fully.

R3 Canelo
R4 GGG

2-2

This fight seems like it will go to decision, might be controversial, these rounds are really close.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:27 PM
Canelo keeps sitting on the rope, GGG hits him with the straight and straight to the body.

Canelo needs to stop fighting off the rope, even tho he likes it.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:28 PM
GGG with a HUGE hit on Canelo, DAMN!!!

Stupid Canelo, get off the ROPES damn IT!

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:29 PM
R5 the FIGHT IS ON!

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:35 PM
GGG cutting the ring now and hunting down Canelo.

Canelo seems to be getting tired.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:36 PM
GGG relentless chasing in R7.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:38 PM
GGG is going for the knockout. He is chasing Canelo relentlessly now.

Canelo has no power to back down GGG.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:40 PM
Canole is fatigued.

GGG is landing more in R8.

If Canelo fights like this, 1 punch at a time, GGG will take this fight.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:43 PM
GGG is hitting Canelo, but Canelo is taking those shot.

But for how long?

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:44 PM
GGG just walked through Canelo's best shot of the fight and kept moving forward.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:45 PM
GGG is landing more but Canelo has some beautiful punches but they are only 1 punch at a time.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:46 PM
Canelo hurt GGG in R10.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:48 PM
F**K, Canelo throwing bombs but GGG just walking through them!

This is WAR!

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:49 PM
We NEED Part II of this fight, lol

RD2191
09-16-2017, 10:53 PM
Canelo not following through with any combos. Big single shots but not much else.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:53 PM
Final Round!

Beautiful fight.

I have GGG winning by 3 rounds.

Canelo didn't do enough, you need to beat the champ convincingly.

All those rounds have been really close tho.

Let's see how the judges have it.

apalisoc_9
09-16-2017, 10:55 PM
tie on my card.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:57 PM
I hope they don't rob GGG.

Canelo didn't do enough to beat the champ.

webshad
09-16-2017, 10:58 PM
We need Canelo/GGG II

This was a close fight, every round has been close, but GGG was more consistent in my book.

Mitch
09-16-2017, 10:58 PM
Canelo's stamina is gonna cost him this fight, tbh

His chin is proven, tho :tu

Good fight, a little better than a slugfest.

thiste
09-16-2017, 10:59 PM
GGG's got this.

resistanze
09-16-2017, 11:00 PM
:lol

thiste
09-16-2017, 11:00 PM
Awesome fight for sure.

Not a draw, sorry.

webshad
09-16-2017, 11:00 PM
118-110 Canelo <- hahahahahaha this is just bullshit

115-113 GGG

114-114


GGG got robbed.

siraulo23
09-16-2017, 11:00 PM
I had GGG winning by quite a bit. But there were a couple of close rounds

webshad
09-16-2017, 11:01 PM
I had GGG winning by quite a bit. But there were a couple of close rounds


Boxing judges, are soooo crooked.

LakerHater
09-16-2017, 11:01 PM
WTF!

whitemamba
09-16-2017, 11:02 PM
Lol judges

apalisoc_9
09-16-2017, 11:02 PM
118-110 Canelo <- hahahahahaha this is just bullshit

115-113 GGG

114-114


GGG got robbed.

wow that one judge ruined everything.

Mitch
09-16-2017, 11:02 PM
Close fight, but it should go to GGG by a hair, tbh. This is just Vegas looking for another PPV hit with a rivalry, Canelo probably takes a rematch, he's only getting better and GGG is getting slower.

baseline bum
09-16-2017, 11:03 PM
So was this non-decision worse than Marquez-Pacquiao III?

webshad
09-16-2017, 11:03 PM
Close fight, but it should go to GGG by a hair, tbh. This is just Vegas looking for another PPV hit with a rivalry, Canelo probably takes a rematch, he's only getting better and GGG is getting slower.

Obviously!

F**k, I don't like it for the athletes tho. They work hard and they need to get what they deserve.

Boxing needs to look into these crooked judges.

StrengthAndHonor
09-16-2017, 11:04 PM
You cant trust Vegas fellas, 118-110. This sport has zero integrity .

:lol

webshad
09-16-2017, 11:05 PM
The Danny Jacobs fight was much more closer than this one tho.

apalisoc_9
09-16-2017, 11:06 PM
Obviously!

F**k, I don't like it for the athletes tho. They work and they need to get what they deserve.

Boxing needs to look into these crooked judges.

The proboem with boxing judges is that its almost never by merit. Theres some great judges out there but the ones that do someohow make it through fights like these have questionable records.

apalisoc_9
09-16-2017, 11:07 PM
Golovkin probably knew. He was hunting Canelo since round 1.

Axl Rose
09-16-2017, 11:07 PM
GGG got robbed, these fuckers won't get any money from me in the future. how can anyone even score it that way? On screen they had 116-112

apalisoc_9
09-16-2017, 11:09 PM
i got it 114-114 though..not surprised some had GGG winning by a go margin though.

Axl Rose
09-16-2017, 11:11 PM
i got it 114-114 though..not surprised some had GGG winning by a go margin though.
Shut the fuck up you Filipino fucker. Lady boy

Mitch
09-16-2017, 11:11 PM
Obviously!

F**k, I don't like it for the athletes tho. They work and they need to get what they deserve.

Boxing needs to look into these crooked judges.

:lol it's just a part of boxing, web. Olympic especially, that's the most crooked crapshow in sports.

I'm surprised Canelo soaked so many good shots, though. The rematch will probably be a KO or stoppage, they're not going to respect eachother's power next time.

Axl Rose
09-16-2017, 11:12 PM
Honestly what did I just watch. How does a guy win 9 of 12 rounds and it's a tie?

RD2191
09-16-2017, 11:15 PM
I'm perfectly okay with a draw. It could of gone either way imo

RD2191
09-16-2017, 11:16 PM
Triggered white muricans. :lol

apalisoc_9
09-16-2017, 11:17 PM
Man they really need to get rid of female officials. What an embarrasment to the sport.

Axl Rose
09-16-2017, 11:17 PM
I'm perfectly okay with a draw. It could of gone either way imo
I'm sure a Mexican fan isn't biased, you're hilarious. No one else sees what you saw, no one. Just you and that crooked judge.

Mitch
09-16-2017, 11:20 PM
Triggered white muricans. :lol

Canelo looks like an irishman, the white people adopted him tbh

Axl Rose
09-16-2017, 11:20 PM
That decision ought to be investigated and overturned. Who paid that idiot to do that? Ruined an otherwise great fight.

Mitch
09-16-2017, 11:22 PM
I'm sure a Mexican fan isn't biased, you're hilarious. No one else sees what you saw, no one. Just you and that crooked judge.

To be honest, it was a close fight and a majority draw was as possible as a majority decision for GGG.

RD2191
09-16-2017, 11:23 PM
I'm sure a Mexican fan isn't biased, you're hilarious. No one else sees what you saw, no one. Just you and that crooked judge.

GGG was putting in work but the fight was close throughout. Volume punches by GGG but not too many with a big impact.

apalisoc_9
09-16-2017, 11:23 PM
Canelo looks like an irishman, the white people adopted him tbh

White people love canelo tbh. Hes more white than Golovkin who is actually more asian than white. Mother is Korean and father is eurasian.

RD2191
09-16-2017, 11:24 PM
That decision ought to be investigated and overturned. Who paid that idiot to do that? Ruined an otherwise great fight.

When has boxing ever been fair? It's entertainment, don't take it too seriously.

td4mvp2k
09-16-2017, 11:26 PM
:lol triple suk got his a$$ beat vs a real boxer and they call it a draw? dat niggas face got fukd... fuk dis sport tbh

Axl Rose
09-16-2017, 11:27 PM
You guys are psycho if you think that was a draw. The boos were so loud you couldn't even hear the post fight interview. Golovkin landed more punches and more power punches.

Killakobe81
09-16-2017, 11:27 PM
To be honest, it was a close fight and a majority draw was as possible as a majority decision for GGG.

i think ggg won a close fight but Canelo had the cleaner power and body shots.
Golovkin had better ringmanship, applied more pressure abd walked Canelo down all night

Mitch
09-16-2017, 11:34 PM
i think ggg won a close fight but Canelo had the cleaner power and body shots.
Golovkin had better ringmanship, applied more pressure abd walked Canelo down all night

He never could follow up when he capitalized, though. GGG stunned Canelo once, had a good chance for a knockdown but let Canelo make distance and clinch. Biggest takeaway from Golovkin is his very average boxing IQ, Canelo isn't a GREAT boxer but he looked like it for half of the fight against GGG.

TheGreatYacht
09-16-2017, 11:38 PM
tie on my card.
Spot on. I agree.

webshad
09-16-2017, 11:39 PM
You guys are psycho if you think that was a draw. The boos were so loud you couldn't even hear the post fight interview. Golovkin landed more punches and more power punches.

Man, I understand your frustration. Second half of the fight, GGG walked through all of Canelo's punches.

I have emotionally invested a lot into boxing fights only to get disappointed by some crooked judge. Now, I just chuckle when it happens. Yup, it's frustrating.

TheGreatYacht
09-16-2017, 11:40 PM
Triggered white muricans. :lol

webshad
09-16-2017, 11:40 PM
hahahaha

I wonder what Teddy Atlas will say.

Stephen A.: Judge had no business calling the fight.Stephen A. Smith is stunned that Adalaide Byrd called the fight 118-110 for Canelo Alvarez.

webshad
09-16-2017, 11:44 PM
Atlas: Corruption in boxing. loooool I have to be honest.

Atlas says there's 'corruption in boxing' after draw.Teddy Atlas reacts to the Canelo Alvarez-Gennady Golovkin fight being ruled a draw, saying to follow the money. Atlas said that Alvarez fought in spots to survive, but didn't do enough to win.

TheGreatYacht
09-16-2017, 11:52 PM
Trump fluffers fluffing up the Russian. Why aren't I surprised by wonderbread folks

StrengthAndHonor
09-16-2017, 11:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/MVgurj7.jpg

whitemamba
09-16-2017, 11:53 PM
No surprise GGG was robbed tbh

TheGreatYacht
09-16-2017, 11:54 PM
Racists going after a poor BW. You'd think harassing Jemele "the truther" Hill would've been enough

RD2191
09-16-2017, 11:55 PM
Trump fluffers fluffing up the Russian. Why aren't I surprised by wonderbread folks

Their white tears are delicious TBH. :lol

RD2191
09-16-2017, 11:58 PM
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be mad if it has gone to GGG but people acting like it was a runaway GGG win are retarded.

TheGreatYacht
09-17-2017, 12:01 AM
Their white tears are delicious TBH. :lol
They taste like mayonnaise

apalisoc_9
09-17-2017, 12:02 AM
I had it 114-114 tbh.

i dont like awarding points to boxers for simply being "the hunter". Thats not how boxing works. Canelo was never going to be the hunter in this fight. He is the better boxer..It would be smart for him to allow Golovkin to attack and pick his spots.

He landed the better punches and that was probably the goal.

I dont understand why 114-114 is such a hard score to accept.

Axl Rose
09-17-2017, 12:02 AM
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be mad if it has gone to GGG but people acting like it was a runaway GGG win are retarded.
It wasn't a runaway fight, it was a competitive good fight with a CLEAR edge to GGG

Mitch
09-17-2017, 12:03 AM
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't be mad if it has gone to GGG but people acting like it was a runaway GGG win are retarded.

50-50 Majority draw or decision, Golovkin just didn't have enough impact to say it was a robbery. Canelo got a retarded card, though.

TheGreatYacht
09-17-2017, 12:07 AM
That Canelo card was attrocious, but the fight was close enough to be a draw. Sucks that card alone will taint this classic

Mikeanaro
09-17-2017, 12:08 AM
GGG got robbed, Canela moonwalked all fight.

Mikeanaro
09-17-2017, 12:12 AM
Close fight, but it should go to GGG by a hair, tbh. This is just Vegas looking for another PPV hit with a rivalry, Canelo probably takes a rematch, he's only getting better and GGG is getting slower.
Getting better at running away?

webshad
09-17-2017, 12:14 AM
No surprise GGG was robbed tbh

Yup, another judge had to ruin a great fight.

Why is a residence of Nevada allowed to judge such a big event?

TheGreatYacht
09-17-2017, 12:15 AM
Getting better at running away?
It's boxing, son. If you want men sitting still while 69'ing each other, watch MMA

webshad
09-17-2017, 12:16 AM
Teddy Atlas losing his mind. Hahahahaha looooooooool hahahahaha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FN4qcNOYek

Mikeanaro
09-17-2017, 12:18 AM
It's boxing, son. If you want men sitting still while 69'ing each other, watch MMA
Wrong, its modern cheap boxing son, thats why is in such a shitty state.

Mitch
09-17-2017, 12:20 AM
Getting better at running away?

:lol He isn't going to stand flat footed and exchange with GGG. Golovkin walks through his combinations, he has to dance.

Mikeanaro
09-17-2017, 12:22 AM
:lol He isn't going to stand flat footed and exchange with GGG. Golovkin walks through his combinations, he has to dance.
You wont get the belt if the champ must chase you like a cop, also he never punched that much that ginger fuck though he won the fight, he said he won like 7 rounds fucking delusional.

webshad
09-17-2017, 12:23 AM
You wont get the belt if the champ must chase you like a cop, also he never punched that much that ginger fuck though he won the fight, he said he won like 7 rounds fucking delusional.

Yeah that was arrogant of him for saying like he won 8 rounds with a straight face.

Mitch
09-17-2017, 12:26 AM
You wont get the belt if the champ must chase you like a cop, also he never punched that much that ginger fuck though he won the fight, he said he won like 7 rounds fucking delusional.

That's exactly how you beat someone like GGG, though :lol

You make him waste his energy, waste shots and let down his defense in order to open up effectively. Boxing isn't about exchanging

Mikeanaro
09-17-2017, 12:31 AM
That's exactly how you beat someone like GGG, though :lol

You make him waste his energy, waste shots and let down his defense in order to open up effectively. Boxing isn't about exchanging
GGG never wasted his energy, walking and throwing punches with control, the one who got gassed was Canelo with all the jogging, around round 9 he was tired.
Is not about exchanging but at the same time is not about one fighter running the whole fight like a chickenshit, if GGG went to his corner there wouldnt be a fight because Canelo was a runner.

Axl Rose
09-17-2017, 12:39 AM
That's exactly how you beat someone like GGG, though :lol

You make him waste his energy, waste shots and let down his defense in order to open up effectively. Boxing isn't about exchanging


Well if that that had happened no one would be complaining

Mikeanaro
09-17-2017, 12:45 AM
Well if that that had happened no one would be complaining
Well but that didnt happen, so people is complaining.

Robz4000
09-17-2017, 01:04 AM
:lol dem judges

Down Under
09-17-2017, 01:11 AM
Draw is a fair result IMO. GGG landed more jabs, but a lot of them were hitting glove. Canelo landed the cleaner power punches.

Axl Rose
09-17-2017, 01:29 AM
Draw is a fair result IMO. GGG landed more jabs, but a lot of them were hitting glove. Canelo landed the cleaner power punches.
Top. Kek. Be honest, what is your nationality and ethnicity?

apalisoc_9
09-17-2017, 01:31 AM
Top. Kek. Be honest, what is your nationality and ethnicity?

shut your whore mouth cuckload.

I fuck white bitches just to piss off shitheads like you even though i find them the most boring broads. Fucking white idiots.

Axl Rose
09-17-2017, 01:36 AM
shut your whore mouth cuckload.

I fuck white bitches just to piss off shitheads like you even though i find them the most boring broads. Fucking white idiots.

you don't fuck anything, you're some single mid 30s bitch looking guy in the Phillipines

Axl Rose
09-17-2017, 01:53 AM
shut your whore mouth cuckload.

I fuck white bitches just to piss off shitheads like you even though i find them the most boring broads. Fucking white idiots.
And while we are on the subject, do you know how many flip hoes hit me up on ok Cupid on a regular basis? Some
of them just want to talk, some of them dream to come to America to suck the big white D. It's every flip woman's dream to get with a white man, they don't want little yellow boys. I might take a vacation over there just to help out your country's gene pool. Just let me know what spots to avoid so I don't accidentally run into a ladyboy like you, real Women only

TheGreatYacht
09-17-2017, 02:45 AM
shut your whore mouth cuckload.

I fuck white bitches just to piss off shitheads like you even though i find them the most boring broads. Fucking white idiots.
You ever finger a white bitch and then shake her cuckservative dad's hand after? Alpha moves

UZER
09-17-2017, 02:49 AM
Great fight. I think GGG won, but i understand the draw. The 118-110 was a disgrace though.

For me, in a fight this close, Canelo backpedaled way too much earn the draw. I get the strategy, he obviously went the distance, but he didn't do enough damage to GGG to counter running strategy. GGG was just walking through everything he threw. Canelo had great shots throughout the fight, but not enough and not consistent enough to swing the close rounds his way.

apalisoc_9
09-17-2017, 03:08 AM
Great fight. I think GGG won, but i understand the draw. The 118-110 was a disgrace though.

For me, in a fight this close, Canelo backpedaled way too much earn the draw. I get the strategy, he obviously went the distance, but he didn't do enough damage to GGG to counter running strategy. GGG was just walking through everything he threw. Canelo had great shots throughout the fight, but not enough and not consistent enough to swing the close rounds his way.

The thing is when you judge a boxing match, there is no real way of appraching it. If we are going by damage, I can easily argue GGG was damaged way more. Canelo punched less but he landed more power punches and way cleaner too.

Should we judge the fight that way or what?

I dont think its even that big of a deal if canelo won.

Spurtacular
09-17-2017, 08:29 AM
The 118 guy was probably paid off. I didn't take care to score this one round for round at this late hour. 114-114 is plausible. 113-115, though? I just don't think I had GGG winning 7 rounds even if Canelo was the more haggard fighter at the end. In fact, before I knew this was a draw I had figured Canelo won just b/c I figured GGG's lack of care in landing meaningful punches in each of the first four rounds would've cost him.

All the same, this fight was a lot of wind and not a lot of meat. Pretty unspectacular.

dabom
09-17-2017, 09:19 AM
GGG hits like magreggy

DAF86
09-17-2017, 12:59 PM
If you want to rob, why make it obvious by throwing a 118-110 card? Just have it 115-113 and you get the same result without any controversy.

webshad
09-17-2017, 11:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvggfTw1JdQ

whitemamba
09-18-2017, 12:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvggfTw1JdQ
No surprise here , everyones stunned.

AlexJones
09-18-2017, 05:03 AM
Canelo easily won the last 3 rounds and at least 2 early. It was 115-113 for Golovkin at the absolute mots.

GGG was walking himself into hard clean power shots. Just being the aggressor doesn't win you rounds. Ask ODLH how that worked against Floyd.

AlexJones
09-18-2017, 05:47 AM
117 - 111 vs Lara
118 - 109 vs Trout
119 - 109 vs Cotto
114 - 114 vs Mayweather

Now 118-110 vs Golovkin

Just Lol

blizz
09-18-2017, 06:39 AM
I'm ok with the draw. I had Canelo winning the first three and the last three. I could see how someone MIGHT be able to give one of those to GGG but it's still THAT close, not a runaway victory by any means. The narrative that GGG should have won because he was the aggressor is stupid. He was for 6 rounds and he won those rounds. You wanna give him the fight for winning the middle 6 rounds? You win decisions by winning rounds. Timely shots, big punches, not getting hit. Floyd hasn't been the aggressor in a looong time now yet he wins. The first judge's scorecard was crazy but so was Lederman's the other way around. Who cares, a draw is a draw. That was the correct outcome. I'd love to see it again.

webshad
09-18-2017, 10:17 AM
I'm ok with the draw. I had Canelo winning the first three and the last three. I could see how someone MIGHT be able to give one of those to GGG but it's still THAT close, not a runaway victory by any means. The narrative that GGG should have won because he was the aggressor is stupid. He was for 6 rounds and he won those rounds. You wanna give him the fight for winning the middle 6 rounds? You win decisions by winning rounds. Timely shots, big punches, not getting hit. Floyd hasn't been the aggressor in a looong time now yet he wins. The first judge's scorecard was crazy but so was Lederman's the other way around. Who cares, a draw is a draw. That was the correct outcome. I'd love to see it again.

Floyd controls the tempo. Canelo couldn't and he lands 1 punch at a time, GGG was more consistent with his assault.

Canelo was running 3/4 of the fight, has nothing to do with his strategy, he was exhausted and needed a break.

GGG is the champ, Canelo didn't do enough for a victory, the closest thing he could have got is a draw but even that's stretching it in my view.

I called it like the majority of the boxing media, GGG by 2 point.

webshad
09-18-2017, 11:27 AM
If possible the rematch needs to happen before May. If not, maybe Canelo can fight Saunders before May so that we can have a unification match coming next summer.

I doubt Golden Boy will allow their cash cow to fight more than twice a year, May/September a lot like Mayweather did.

GGG is not getting any younger, hopefully we don't have to wait a year.

Also, I would love to see Canelo/Jacobs, my dream fight.

Another scenario, why doesn't GGG fight Saunders to unify the titles and Canelo fights Jacobs. Although Jacobs would win that fight, it will take away the extravagance of the rematch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v9asaVFdBI

UZER
09-18-2017, 11:37 AM
I have a feeling Golden boy is going to delay this rematch one way or another, fighting someone else, an injury in camp etc., just to let GGG sit a little longer.

hater
09-18-2017, 11:37 AM
What a robbery

Mexicant mafia hard at work

webshad
09-18-2017, 11:54 AM
I have a feeling Golden boy is going to delay this rematch one way or another, fighting someone else, an injury in camp etc., just to let GGG sit a little longer.

If that's the case, GGG needs to unify the belts and make history. Fight Saunders ASAP and do it in Europe (UK or Monaco).

UZER
09-18-2017, 12:03 PM
I'm ok with the draw. I had Canelo winning the first three and the last three. I could see how someone MIGHT be able to give one of those to GGG but it's still THAT close, not a runaway victory by any means. The narrative that GGG should have won because he was the aggressor is stupid. He was for 6 rounds and he won those rounds. You wanna give him the fight for winning the middle 6 rounds? You win decisions by winning rounds. Timely shots, big punches, not getting hit. Floyd hasn't been the aggressor in a looong time now yet he wins. The first judge's scorecard was crazy but so was Lederman's the other way around. Who cares, a draw is a draw. That was the correct outcome. I'd love to see it again.


Canelo had a great first minute of round 10. Everything else after that through round 12 was pretty even. People just automatically just giving him those last 3 rounds is ridiculous (not saying you are). When a fight is close, things like being the aggressor, for 85% of the fight, can and should make the difference. For most of the fight, Canelo was running away from 3G. That's not to say its an not effective strategy. That's not to say you can't win a fight like that, but you have to do enough TO win a fight like that. Mayweather used that strategy but he was pretty much untouchable, and his counter punching would turn aggressive fighters into confused chasers. Canelo did not do that. He was not untouchable. He was getting tagged all night long, especially with the jab.

whitemamba
09-18-2017, 12:54 PM
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/20745263/adalaide-byrd-stood-judge-ggg-canelo-controversy

:lol boxing

webshad
09-18-2017, 01:29 PM
http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/20745263/adalaide-byrd-stood-judge-ggg-canelo-controversy

:lol boxing

Another jackass will take her place.

Unfortunately, money talks in today's world.

People these days have no ethical barometer.

whitemamba
09-18-2017, 02:28 PM
Another jackass will take her place.

Unfortunately, money talks in today's world.

People these days have no ethical barometer.

teddy atlas went in on boxing, idk if u saw it. Hopefully loma/rigo isnt this bad.

Killakobe81
09-18-2017, 02:37 PM
You ever finger a white bitch and then shake her cuckservative dad's hand after? Alpha moves:rollin

webshad
09-18-2017, 02:40 PM
teddy atlas went in on boxing, idk if u saw it. Hopefully loma/rigo isnt this bad.

Yup, he went crazy on ESPN. LOL, it was entertaining to watch.

He also went crazy after the Pacquiao fight.

Down Under
09-18-2017, 07:27 PM
Yup, he went crazy on ESPN. LOL, it was entertaining to watch.

He also went crazy after the Pacquiao fight.
Pac did land harder, cleaner punches but he didn't do it in enough rounds. He barely threw any in 3 out of the first 4 rounds and that's where he lost that fight. Teddy's somehow forgot that boxing is scored round by round, not overall. For the GGG fight, as somone else said, if you're going to give the fight to someone cause you're crooked, you'd give it to them 115-113, not something totally suspect like she did. That's incompetence.

Arcadian
09-18-2017, 07:47 PM
If you want to rob, why make it obvious by throwing a 118-110 card? Just have it 115-113 and you get the same result without any controversy.

Exactly. That is precisely why I think it's not "corruption" per se, just a really bad judgment. This is what happens when you determine a winner based on subjective perception. Until an objective scoring system based on operational definitions is implemented, bizarre decisions are going to happen because human judgment is inherently unreliable and highly variable on any dimension. Psychologists can't even find three people who agree on something as trivial as "the ideal shade of green," much less who won a tightly-contested boxing match. :lol

webshad
09-18-2017, 08:06 PM
Pac did land harder, cleaner punches but he didn't do it in enough rounds. He barely threw any in 3 out of the first 4 rounds and that's where he lost that fight. Teddy's somehow forgot that boxing is scored round by round, not overall. For the GGG fight, as somone else said, if you're going to give the fight to someone cause you're crooked, you'd give it to them 115-113, not something totally suspect like she did. That's incompetence.

Sorry I just don't trust the boxing business anymore. I have seen my share of crooked judges in boxing. Apparently one of the judges even had whiteout on his scorecard.

This idiot had 10-2 which is basically a complete shutout in boxing. Whether she is incompetent or not, the result of this fight smells funny.

BTW, are you actually saying Horn won that fight????

Down Under
09-18-2017, 11:57 PM
Sorry I just don't trust the boxing business anymore. I have seen my share of crooked judges in boxing. Apparently one of the judges even had whiteout on his scorecard.

This idiot had 10-2 which is basically a complete shutout in boxing. Whether she is incompetent or not, the result of this fight smells funny.

BTW, are you actually saying Horn won that fight????
Yeah I've just seen that many dodgy scorecards over the years, but I wouldn't say it's getting worse - since I've been following it over 20 odd years there often seems to be lopsided ones like that which you can't figure out how they were scored. Honestly, Horn got his ass kicked late, to the point where the fight was just about stopped, but that's not how scoring works. As I said, Pacman was down 3-1 after 4 rounds & didn't win enough of the last 8 decisively enough to say it was beyond doubt.

UZER
09-21-2017, 04:15 PM
So...

Rematch happens within 5 months, Cinco de mayo at the latest?

Or...

Rematch gets dragged out for any other year while Canelo waits for GGG to fade further?

webshad
09-21-2017, 04:55 PM
So...

Rematch happens within 5 months, Cinco de mayo at the latest?

Or...

Rematch gets dragged out for any other year while Canelo waits for GGG to fade further?

Well within the boxing community, rumor has it that there won't be a rematch from Canelo's side. I really hope that's not the case.

Rematch clause was only if Canelo loses.

I rather have GGG beat the sh*t out of Saunders and then fight Canelo either way.

Whatever Golden Boy decides to do, GGG shouldn't sit idle, he should go get the other belt.

UZER
09-21-2017, 05:02 PM
Well within the boxing community, rumor has it that there won't be a rematch from Canelo's side. I really hope that's not the case.

Rematch clause was only if Canelo loses.

I rather have GGG beat the sh*t out of Saunders and then fight Canelo either way.

Whatever Golden Boy decides to do, GGG shouldn't sit idle, he should go get the other belt.

That was my gut feeling right after the fight, that Canelo would walk way from a rematch, or play games to delay it and make GGG sit and wait. If he does, he's a sucker.

If they fought again (soon), I think GGG would knock him it within 6-8 rounds. He paid him way too much respect early on and wasted early rounds. I think Canelo knows that too, that's why the games will be played to avoid the rematch.

webshad
09-21-2017, 07:31 PM
That was my gut feeling right after the fight, that Canelo would walk way from a rematch, or play games to delay it and make GGG sit and wait. If he does, he's a sucker.

If they fought again (soon), I think GGG would knock him it within 6-8 rounds. He paid him way too much respect early on and wasted early rounds. I think Canelo knows that too, that's why the games will be played to avoid the rematch.

In the meantime, we can enjoy Lomachecko/Rigondeaux and perhaps Bellew/Haye.

Sucks the Ward decided to leave, I really wanted to see Stevenson vs Ward.

UZER
09-21-2017, 07:56 PM
In the meantime, we can enjoy Lomachecko/Rigondeaux and perhaps Bellew/Haye.

Sucks the Ward decided to leave, I really wanted to see Stevenson vs Ward.

Loma v Rig is going to be great. Someone is a fraud and we're about to find out.

Love Ward, great fighter. But in the end, he didn't fight enough for me. How can only fight 4 times in 5 year during your prime?!

webshad
09-21-2017, 08:15 PM
Loma v Rig is going to be great. Someone is a fraud and we're about to find out.

Love Ward, great fighter. But in the end, he didn't fight enough for me. How can only fight 4 times in 5 year during your prime?!

You're right, but I wanted to see Ward/Stevenson. Maybe it's all a marketing scam like Floyd did countless of times. Who knows.

blizz
09-25-2017, 07:05 AM
Did y’all see that Jojo Diaz kid? Really good. Looks promising.

UZER
09-25-2017, 09:19 AM
You're right, but I wanted to see Ward/Stevenson. Maybe it's all a marketing scam like Floyd did countless of times. Who knows.

Man Ward v Stevenson would've been awesome to see. Another case of is he legit (Stevenson)?

webshad
09-25-2017, 07:45 PM
Man Ward v Stevenson would've been awesome to see. Another case of is he legit (Stevenson)?

Ward and Kovalev are way too smart for a fighter who only has a left.

Kovalev destroys Stevenson if they ever fight.